SMOOTHBORE FLINTLOCK LOAD DEVELOPMENT - ADJUSTING THE CHARGE

[@hypoSPEED666]

Man i miss this channel so much.

[@coreyhoffmann8277]

I do also, I have learned alot from these videos. I hope he is doing well.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Man...that smoothbore REALLY sounds good at the @12:10 mark. Thanks for sharing the loading. Great proof that fine tuning IS the answer to accurate shooting.

[@BlackPowderTV]

Black Powder Maniac Shooter Thanks Mark! I’m having a good time with this one!

[@alehrhardt4524]

I have been waterfowl and turkey hunting with my muzzleloaders 10 and 12 gauges for a lot of years and I can tell you that patterning is important, but it doesn’t stop there. When you are deciding on powder charge you better consider down range foot pounds of energy if you expect to clean kill your game. Consider steel or aluminum sheeting (like siding) as a test target at your planned ranges. Ballistic jell is also good but expensive. You can generally find the old siding samples at you local dump. Much cheaper and watching penetration and denting will determine the penetration capacity of your loads.

[@BlackPowderTV]

Excellent point. 👍🏻

[@victorsimonsen921]

thanks for speeding up the loading prosses makes it easyer to watch

[@BlackPowderTV]

You’re welcome. I’ll get a dozen comments complaining that I skipped the loading. Trying to find a balance for all tastes.

[@yankeedoodledandeefirecrac7518]

Great job i see you're using a silhouette!! makes sense!!!

[@michaelhogue3489]

As always a nother great video .I sure want a smooth bore love the versatile

[@BlackPowderTV]

Thanks Michael! They are great! You’ve got to get one!

[@williamseifert6761]

Great video. You did a great job by letting everone know to only make one change at a time.

[@donfullbright8468]

Great information

[@357bullfrog2]

I like that. I've gotta get serious and work up a load for my 20 gauge percussion so I can get me some limb bacon this fall

[@BlackPowderTV]

Thanks! Get out there and work up a load. I’m hoping for a good squirrel season too!

[@mikemcguire441]

Bob, another great video. I do believe you're getting the hang of this video making.

[@BlackPowderTV]

Mike McGuire Thanks Mike. It’s getting easier and more relaxing that’s for sure. 👍🏻

[@oldschooljack3479]

Thanks Bob! Good stuff. I like that long narrow spout on the horn Tim made. All of mine have the standard short thick spout and it makes it a pain to prime from the horn... That thin antler spout would sure make priming easier for me. I may have to talk to Tim.

[@BlackPowderTV]

Thanks! I’ve got 4-5 of his horns. He makes great stuff.

[@falcon5215]

New to this...very helpful. Thanks.

[@BlackPowderTV]

Thanks Andrew! Glad you got something out of it. I have a whole playlist devoted to the new shooter! Thanks again!

[@yankeedoodledandeefirecrac7518]

I hunt too I'm super interested ion the best effective combo for the Turkey headshots!!! please keep experimenting for us!!!

[@stevenogborn5892]

Awesome stuff. Thank you.

[@BlackPowderTV]

Thanks Steven!

[@olskool3967]

great video Bob! I have never messed with a smooth bore, I learned a couple of things. I like the idea of the sky chief load, I can understand where the cushion wad on top would force the shot tight together creating a tighter pattern. very good info,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[@BlackPowderTV]

OLSKOOL Thanks Olskool! Gotta get yourself one!

[@cainonsmiley3547]

Can you do a video on patches? Like what kinds, pre lubing them or lubing as you shoot and what kinda lube you use?

[@BlackPowderTV]

That video is coming this week! Sorry for the delay in answering but I had to take a month off. Out of town family came to the farm. Thanks!

[@cainonsmiley3547]

Black Powder TV family first always my man!

[@jeffe.9904]

Very informative Bob thanks again! I think if I was hunting Turkeys with that rifle, I would take NO Chances and load it with 100 grains!

[@BlackPowderTV]

My 12 bore loves smaller charges....we'll see!

[@johngray7006]

Great video

[@yankeedoodledandeefirecrac7518]

ecellentt work on that turkey head load work up!!! if you desighn the shot to be spli between two wads will it be more of a jelly head effect??

[@UncleSasquatchOutdoors]

They just keep getting better! Great video! I like 80 grains of FFg, 1 1/8 oz of #6 shot with two wads between the powder and the shot. I've read too much about a cushion wad behind the shot blowing holes in the pattern. Again, good stuff sir!

[@BlackPowderTV]

Thanks US. That’s just about what I like. The 100fg is about the equivalent so I need to do some more testing. 👍🏻

[@UncleSasquatchOutdoors]

@@BlackPowderTV Yes 80 of FFg would be about the same because it burns faster. Keep up the good work..you are about half way on subs to where I am.

[@danclas5983]

Gotta tell ya Bob , good job . I just found your channel and subscribed after the first vid . Love it , nuff said . Iv'e always shot percussion gun's but have been lookin hard for a flinter . Maybe you could do a video on various builders . Iv'e been looking at the TVM gun's but don't know a whole lot about the flintlock rifle's . Thanks .

[@BlackPowderTV]

Sounds like a great video idea. I’ll put it on ,y short list! Thanks!

[@Vtmtnman42]

Some thoughts on shot loads,just to tighten the pattern for turkey hunting applications.Would an appropriate gauge modern plastic wad tighten the pattern?What about wrapping a pre-measured shot charge in cloth?

[@BlackPowderTV]

Vtmtnman42 Hey. A plastic shot cup? It would, but as I try to stay historically correct for the period of the gun, depending on the gun, I use cups made of paper, like a paper cartridge but open topped. The cloth may work too. The problem is if it’s not open and it doesn’t tear away as it comes out there is a high probability it will stay together and “slug” the target. Lots of things to try out and sometimes it’s the unusual that works the best. Thanks!

[@Boozie513]

I was surprised by the shot pattern with the 100 grain test. Waiting for things to dry out so I can test some turkey loads in my .62 Fusil. Going to try #6 shot, having a hard time finding #5.

[@slickslicker9321]

Hey! Where you at? On vacation? A month is a long time without a video! I’m a missing ya!

[@BlackPowderTV]

Slick Slicker Hey Slicker, just getting back. Had Texas family up for a few weeks. Full house and not a second to myself. I’m working on nothing but BPTV for the next week. I’ll have four or so out this week and several more next week. Editing one as we speak! Expect the first in the next few hours!

[@thubandra963]

Ok, you answered my question. Wad.

[@BlackPowderTV]

👍🏻

[@nosaltiesandrooshere7488]

Yes I am from Austria! 👍 = there is nothing left to say! Everything perfect!

[@veteranironoutdoors8320]

I did a video on making paper shot cartridges and I showed some test targets shot beforehand and the difference 5 grains made was crazy. 60-65 grains, nice, dense pattern. 70-75 grains and blown pattern. 80-85gr pattern was almost nonexistent (and the 80 grain load had a double thickness wad!)

[@BlackPowderTV]

It’s amazing what every variable can do to change a good load to a bad one. Thanks!

[@Rumblestrip]

Noticed the same thing with mine. Had to get north of 80 to get the holes to disappear. I can get good coverage enough for turkey or rabbit out to 30 yards with 1.5oz of shot over 100 grains of ffg. im still playing with it. I did try 110, but no noticeable difference worth talking about over 10 shots. Nice video boss. Looks like your kind of enjoying it.

[@BlackPowderTV]

Ill try 2f in the coming days. Yep. Having a good time.

[@danielbera1539]

I just wanted to hear how you are doing. We've been praying for you and want to know if things are going well. Take care!

[@BlackPowderTV]

I’m doing well, thanks for asking. And thank you for your prayers, nothing is worth more.

[@yankeedoodledandeefirecrac7518]

LOVE IT !!! YOUR using a TURKEY HEAD Pattern!! thank you!!!! you get it!! its the kill HITS that count!

[@yankeedoodledandeefirecrac7518]

Have you ever worked with Paper shot cups for turkey loads? bsically on BB retaintion of THE BB deliverty to concentration to the HEAD area?

[@yankeedoodledandeefirecrac7518]

can you develop a rolled paper shot cup using a dowel to create a heavier load hit to the head of the turkey?

[@BlackPowderTV]

You absolutely can and I’ve been messing around with that a bit. It improves the groups on some of my smoothbores quite a bit. 👍🏻

[@roddboyer5555]

What made you think to start with fg powder instead of ffg? Great video!

[@BlackPowderTV]

Rodd Boyer Any gun I shoot shot with gets the fg treatment. Some like it, some like ffg better. I always give it a shot! Thanks!

[@wadepatton2433]

A lot of guys get better patterns from 1F over 2F is what I have learned. It's always worth a try if you like the best odds of making meat or powdering clays.

[@JDubbsadventure]

Can you do this with a rifled barrel? And when you went from 60-100 did you add more shot or did to remain the same?

[@BlackPowderTV]

No shot in a rifled barrel. You'll fill the rifling with lead. Same amount of shot but it can be adjusted within safe parameters which would be about 7/8 oz to 1 3/4 ounce in a 20 gauge.

[@billy_h_bonney2097]

I just aquired a 10 gauge pedersolli double barrel. I was curious how much 2f / #7 shot you would recommend I try for hunting a South Carolina dove field. I have a hunt this saturday but I won't have time to pattern my gun until the hunt. :(

[@BlackPowderTV]

Hey Billy, hard to say, but perhaps something like 70g Goex and an ounce and a half of #7? Every gun is different but I'd go with something like that in a pinch...

[@billy_h_bonney2097]

@@BlackPowderTV Thank you that is what I have, I just want to hit the dove hard enough to knock them down if I connect but I don't want to overload the shot. the guy who had it before me had it set at 1 1/4 oz for shot.

[@BlackPowderTV]

1 1/4oz should work fine. To be more clear I'd use the powder, then either a lubed nitro card or three over shot cards, then the shot, then one overshot card. If you don't use a lubed nitro card expect to have to clean with a wet patch really quickly between every 3-4 shots per barrel....

[@billy_h_bonney2097]

@@BlackPowderTV sounds great!! I have all that, but do you mind recommending a source for in the future? The Shotgun came with a loaded possible bag, and lots of nitro pads and cards. even came with 2 plastic wads, which I don't plan on using unless someone can tell me why it would be a good idea.

[@BlackPowderTV]

billy_h_bonney Yea, leave the plastic for modern stuff. You don’t want that melted into your traditional barrel. Look at trackofthewolf.com. That’s were I order all my BP stuff. They should have everything you need. 👍🏻

[@gregggibson3109]

What thickness of Nitro and over-shot card are you using? I’m new to the smoothbore crowd.

[@BlackPowderTV]

1/8” Nitro and thin overshot cards. 👍🏻

[@soulfirexit351]

I have a 50 cal rifle, I bought .490 balls and put one down the barrel with out a patch and it fell straight down the barrel. I thought the ball was supposed to catch on the rifling, if only the patch makes contact with rifling how accurate will it be? Should I be using .495 balls?

[@BlackPowderTV]

That's what it should do with a ball 10 thousandths smaller than the bore. You're good. A patched ball is a bit different than say a pistol. The patching tightly imprints on the ball and binds in the rifling and at discharge you have obturation or it is pressed into the rifling as it is pressed slightly oblong. Depending on the gun .490 or .495 may work better. For a .490 ball the patching should be .18 or thicker.

[@soulfirexit351]

@@BlackPowderTV I got a old 100% cotton dress shirt, I figure I'll make a bunch of patches with that and bore butter.

[@jamesvatter5729]

That's a bit of a shock that you patterned better with the 100 grain load.

[@BlackPowderTV]

It sure didn't go the way I expected. Typically I have better luck with smaller charges....

[@jamesvatter5729]

Me too. 80 grains seems to be my fowler's sweet spot. The holes seem to appear with higher loads.

[@HuntFishBrew]

I may have missed it but were you keeping those loads “squared” as you progressed?

[@BlackPowderTV]

No, I often carry two measures for a Smoothbore because I like to let the gun tell me what works best in that barrel, even though that is often a square load. Excellent question, Thanks!

[@HuntFishBrew]

Awesome! Thank you. Great videos!

[@mikeshuler577]

Are you using no. 4 f in the pan ???

[@BlackPowderTV]

Sometimes. Mostly I use Swiss 0B, which is equivalent to about 7f. 👍🏻

[@Starlord180]

Gauge and lenght of barrel

[@MattC0621]

Skychief!

[@BlackPowderTV]

I’m going to be testing his load in coming videos. Sounds like good stuff!

[@jeffreyrobinson3555]

Dead bird any way, good show

[@BlackPowderTV]

Thanks Jeffrey!

[@thubandra963]

What's the big hole in the target on the left?

[@BlackPowderTV]

I believe it’s from the wad. 👍🏻

[@russhog53]

Have you counted the number of shot per the load ? Just to find the ratio

[@MrSpudz2]

Is their a reason why you are not using a 1/2” cushion wad over the nitro card?

[@BlackPowderTV]

I find they don’t help my groupings at all and if lubed to keep the fouling soft they blow through my shot producing a doughnut shaped pattern on my target board. I find a nitro card, heavily soaked in melted lube serves just fine. 👍🏻

[@slickslicker9321]

Don’t know if you mentioned it or not, what size shot are you using?

[@BlackPowderTV]

Slick Slicker I’m pretty sure I did. I think I did. #5. Turkey shot. 👍🏻

[@slickslicker9321]

Yes you did! Sorry I missed it first time around.

[@BlackPowderTV]

Slick Slicker No problem. You had me second guessing myself. 🤣

[@yankeedoodledandeefirecrac7518]

whats your distance your target is at in your yard??

[@BlackPowderTV]

30 yards. Dont laugh, i had a migrane that day. Lol.

[@yankeedoodledandeefirecrac7518]

@@BlackPowderTV Sorry about the migraines I get to understand them , my wife gets them really bad.its hard,