BHR E-Race Electric Dirt Bike | 50% Honda?

Tucker from ECR does a First Ride on the BHR E-Race Electric Dirt Bike. Does it resemble a Honda? Yes. We will explain why.
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The BHR E-Race features an 80V 60AH battery, totaling a capacity of 4.8kWh
What’s most unique about the BHR is that it has a 4 speed transmission with a clutch.
According to BHR, they didn’t begin with a completely new chassis for this bike. Although they don’t explicitly state it, BHR suggests that they drew inspiration from one of the top Japanese motorcycle geometries.
Based on my observations, this chassis bears a striking resemblance to that of a Honda CRF. It’s my assumption that the same principles that apply to the Christini AWD dirt bike also apply to this BHR E-Race, in that it appears to be a Honda CRF chassis that has been adapted and modified.
At a dry weight of 273 pounds, (before adding oil to the gearbox), the BHR E-Race is in the heavyweight division of electric dirt bikes. It's reminiscent of the Surron Storm Bee, although, thanks to it's geometry, it does feel lighter than the Storm when riding.
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[@ElectricCycleRider]

One thing I did forget to point out is the weight, the BHR E-Race Enduro has a dry weight of 273 pounds (before adding oil to the gearbox). Current Pricing of the BHR E-Race Here: bit.ly/ECRMarketplace See more about the BHR E-Race Here: bit.ly/BHRERaceFirstRide Shop Aftermarket Parts Here: bit.ly/ECRParts

[@mainyakmainer7162]

It’s the Chinese pit bike transmission! They are junk and not for any real power I’ve seen. Need like 3wt trany oil to help false neutral we’ve found. It will always have problems. 275 lbs makes my ‘23 KTM FREERIDE seam light at 230 lbs. new’24 KTM’s are coming! Great video keep it up

[@eddieb3915]

273 pounds, (before adding oil to the gearbox). Ouch.

[@valentinperez438]

Top speed?

[@Briggsys_Stuff]

Great to see all the bikes appearing in this space. Personally while a clutch would be nice, I'd rather no gearbox on an electric bike !

[@davekrochenski]

Bought an ebike last spring, now I'm convinced it's the way to go.

[@AmpedUpMoto]

For me. Putting gears on a bike that doesn't need them is a negative. For us guys like me who will ride anything, dig the idea of no gears. That's what makes it super different beside the power source. I'll just go back to the 2t when I want gears. As far as weight, heavy sure but if it rides well, then let's go. The suspension is the elephant in the room for us MX guys. Sure you could change it out but that's all about money. At 8500-ish I want the ride, especially on a pig in weight. Don't get me wrong I freaking love the bike and am super excited where this goes. But let's make it quick. I almost think the ultra light bee could handle more of the mx scene. Especially price wise.

[@Hobbies4Hire]

Great job on the video folks! Thanks for making it.

[@jowill.youtube]

We tested the first version over a year ago. We can't wait to test this new and more powerful version

[@markcoleman2960]

Love the videos about the fullsozed conversions as well. Your recent videos looks an awful lot like central Florida.

[@seamarsh3756]

Would be great to start comparing some geometry numbers to the big 5 dirt bike manufacturers. Like how steep is the ultra bee head angle vs the ktm freeride or a yz250? just an example. would also like to see some more varied terrain.. how do electric bike do through slower speed rock gardens, or enduro cross features like logs etc? Thanks for all the content!:)

[@ka4172]

Thats looks like a real Enduro! Cool!Would be nice watch it first and second gear in extreme Enduro climbing rocks situations!

[@tieoneon1614]

Yep, definitely Honda. SSR used that frame for a lot of their bikes too. Best part is plastics, wheels, etc will fit for aftermarket

[@Z0ttMonte]

I just don’t understand why the big motorcycle company’s like ktm or Husqvarna doenst build a street legal enduro bike like the stark varg and not a freeride e.

[@paulmullany7147]

Interesting bike. Cheers for the video. Do you think with the gearbox and big battery this bike would be getting close to being genuinely capable of trail riding? For example my local trail there and back would be about 40km(25 miles ish). Depending on the weather its fairly steady riding up to about 20mph with maybe 5 short harder sections. Quite often on my current bike I would follow that trail, then do another 20km on tarmac to the enduro track (which has some good longer loops) and then return the same way. In total this normally ends up being about 90 to 100km(60 miles ish) 25miles of trail, 25 miles of road and 10 miles on the enduro track Id happily tolerate extra weight if it meant I could have an almost silent low maintenance trail bike. I think the bike being quiet would help with maintaining trail access as it tends to be the noise that pisses people off. Cheers Paul

[@jeffwhite9392]

Always thought gears on an e-bike was a no brainer ... I was wrong and thanks for proving that . Storm Bee although not enthusiasticly recommended by your good - self , with a twin sensor throttle & dialed in fork ; yup , the go ... Please keep up the good work

[@danielbridgewater3444]

Nice looking bike. I'd like to try one. I'm curious about the E-bikes. I love how quiet they are.

[@goingoutotheparty1]

@ElectricCycleRider Would you have a gearbox for electric dirt bikes ? Electric racing cars and Tesla have 2 speed Auto. Would 2 speed semi-auto be best ??

[@Brickydude2]

Good stuff! Disappointed that the bike is that heavy, and those transmission issues shouldn’t be happening, regardless of if it’s brand new or not. Poor excuse. I’d like to see more bikes like this, keeps the rider engaged and gives current gasser riders a place to go better than a surron. Hopefully we see some offerings from other manufacturers in this field. If that weight was closer to 200-220 it would be a winner.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@All Motors Media For sure! Agree. Definitely some room for improvement and hope that BHR works on these aspects of the bike. The weight is largely due to the 4.8kWh battery and although a lot of weight could be shed by going with a smaller battery, it would obviously impact range. Always a give and take there. I'm personally happy to see another bike in the market that is going this direction and everyone needs to start somewhere. Cheers.

[@devinej8411]

​@@ElectricCycleRider I'm not convinced on that there is a pit bike out I believe it's a utr Ultimate trail machine and there 5kw and it's pretty comparable to a normal pit bike in weight

[@Liamcolee]

@@devinej8411 wrong metric. your comparing motor output (KW) to battery capacity (KWH). the bike you are referencing has a 1.4KWH battery.

[@Brickydude2]

@@ElectricCycleRider yes, that battery must be heavy. In my opinion (which may be contrary to popular opinion) on a bike like this I’d rather have the MFG include 2 smaller battery packs that are easily swap-able. That’s just my use case, maybe in the future we could see this being an option; big battery for long enduros with no swapping, or smaller lighter batteries for shorter more aggressive stints.

[@ronnieelliott7292]

I have the Nicot version of this bike, it’s close to the same specs my battery is only a 50ah but it is a Denzel gear box. Gears 2 and 3 and where it runs best and it’s a stomp box shifter so you don’t really need to use the clutch when riding, that might be some of the false neutral problems you are having.

[@saltyfloridaman7163]

This looks like Hernando County, FL

[@daneg]

what are the pros/cons to gears and shifting on an ebike?

[@patrickbowen5567]

I get the want for the clutch and maybe the gears but is their any need for neutral on an e bike?

[@MatkatMusic]

Probably using an off-the-shelf transmission, and not something customized

[@ka4172]

For towing if your battery died in the field.

[@tannerrogers9841]

How do you compare it to the Storm Bee?

[@gophop]

They're getting there. 4 speeds is probably 1 too many. Gear spacing is probably wrong for the electric. Need a wider ratio. And knowing Chinese manufacturers, that clutch would be toast in no time, on technical climbs. But this is looking more like a complete package than everything else I've seen to date.

[@High_Altitude_Dude]

Where did you get your jersey and pants?

[@jpslaym0936]

Watching hit the first jump on this bike I could tell it had REAL enduro or MX suspension in contrast to the Chinese manufacturers of off-road bikes which bounce around like Walmart Mountain bike suspensions.

[@tims-whims]

If you had only 2 gears then a mode switch change on the fly could be set up as a change of gear without the extra mechanical baggage. Probably could even do it with more maps to resemble more gears. I only have experience with electric riding on my Sur-ron but dont miss the clutch at all. It will be interesting to hear what you think after more testing. I also wonder how it effects battery life as the motor will be drawing power at time but not transferring it to the ground if riders like to slip the clutch a lot.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

I would love to try a "high/low" gearing solution for different riding scenarios. It often feels like the hard accelerating eMoto's fall flat on their face after a point and would be great to click it up to some higher speed gearing when the bike begins to plateau in power. Add it to the wish list!

[@shredmas]

Yeah two gears would be perfect. I have a mode switch set up custom on my Zero MXE kind of like a 2 speed. Computer programable controller

[@d2104]

how fast is that ?

[@user-om2tb7cu5z]

good job, nice bike but the autonomy in trail use please

[@eBoard3R]

⚡⚡⚡

[@pauldanrich3919]

Taking price out of the equation, what do you think of this compared to the ultra Bee? I got word they are in, can be shipped as soon as I pay for it, so I wanted to get your input, still leaning towards the ultra bee, unless you tell me otherwise.👍

[@ElectricCycleRider]

Great question! I think the better comparison to the BHR is the Surron Storm Bee, though. I think the chassis and suspension on BHR feels sportier than the Storm, and for that reason, the BHR rides lighter and more predictable than the Storm. I do think the powertrain on the Storm is much better than the BHR though. I've been impressed with the powertrain on the Storm. The Ultra feels so much different than both the Storm and the BHR. If you're leaning towards an Ultra, I wouldn't let the BHR sway you in a different direction. It is much heavier (by approximately 85 pounds) and overall has a much different feel. I think an Ultra Bee with some mods would be the best move if you're looking for that lightweight, in-between type of electric dirt bike. What type of riding are you doing?

[@pauldanrich3919]

@@ElectricCycleRider thanks for the detailed reply, much appreciated. I’ve been on and off dirt bikes for 40 years, I’m almost 60 years old, however, very fit, mountain bike all the time, I certainly don’t act my age. With that said, I just wanted to goof around the neighborhood, crank wheelies, tracks or riding areas are pretty far away from where I live now, so, just really to goof off around the neighborhood more than anything, so ultra sounds perfect for what I want. I’m 6 foot/180 pounds.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@@pauldanrich3919 Ultra sounds like your bike!

[@MotoAlias]

​@@pauldanrich3919 ultra is too much of a real dortbike to get away woth riding around town. You may want to consider the talaria sting R

[@pauldanrich3919]

@@MotoAlias we live in a unique neighborhood in North Carolina with 2400 homes and 20 miles of surrounding mountain bike trails. Won’t be a problem riding ultra bee around on the road, there’s golf carts all over the place in the neighborhood, a lot of times kids driving them, kind of a private secluded neighborhood with a lot of people. I can’t ride ultra bee on the bike trails, but there’s tons of areas underneath powerlines and places I can make myself a little tracks or just goof around where I want to, so I still think ultra bee is the perfect bike for me, neighborhood is not an issue luckily, as long as I don’t ride around like a total idiot🤣

[@christophersupilanas5536]

Sir i have xr 150 gasoline possible convert to electric

[@royed31]

IF you going down the edirectbike route , why would you want gears ?

[@tacticooldennis]

I wonder if an electric dirt bike would benefit more from a CVT transmission rather than gears? they definitely need ratio changes to keep torque for hills and wheelies, and power for top speeds.

[@01.k.p]

Definitely interesting concept not sure if a cvt could handle the abuse though

[@nebulaunfolding]

Stark varg is able to control torque and go plenty fast with 80 hp. The Japanese are behind in the electric department.

[@bonjovi1354]

i wish this eletric ones r available in our country ...in india dirt bikes r super expensive

[@donniegardner6294]

Soooo…where at in Florida is this? Lol

[@alafiathebrand]

What’s it top speed

[@alafiathebrand]

What’s it’s top speed??

[@maeso34]

Good video but the false neutral may got you too focused in it so you didn’t say much about many other features and performances of the package.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Antonio Maeso For sure. It was definitely hard to focus on much else with that happening so frequently! This is just a first ride though, hopefully we'll get to put some more time on it and talk more in-depth in future videos.

[@MatkatMusic]

I would be scared about having those power cables going into the motor getting snagged on tree branches or other things that will rip them off the bike

[@glennalderton1313]

OK, so for the sort of riding you are doing in the vid, the gears and a clutch are worthless. How about some technical trails with steep climbs, rock faces and logs/ruts where the value of a clutch is priceless? Traction is king in those areas and torque delivery has to be controlled. A comparison between a clutch version and direct drive in tight, technical trails would be the real test.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

As much as we wish we could snap our fingers and be in any environment, we have to work with the opportunity that is presented to us. The test bike was offered to us in January in Florida.

[@behelia]

What's with the nearly invisible person @ 3.52

[@electricmx]

🚀⚡️🥵🥵

[@annon-ski7985]

A Glax E-Race is this bike but even cheaper.

[@bobhannah9944]

No hills?

[@user-uz8cg8hc6f]

ultra bee it is good

[@christophersupilanas5536]

How about river

[@Ebbrush3]

273 lbs dry is heavy

[@tintin6291]

gears don't make sense on a electric dirt bike.

[@GroovyVideo2]

main reason i like e bike no gears - no clutch -

[@bwarey52]

It's something people that don't like or have never ridden Ebikes say/want. Same sort of people who drum on about sound and smell or bike's 🥱

[@tatemushroom1002]

Would definitely be nice to not replace the top end every 3 days.

[@JoeTheBlacksmith13]

Why would an electric bike have neutral anyway?

[@GroovyVideo2]

shifting breakin lol - linkage design/ bracket looks weak - wobbly -

[@ozzie7523]

The Stark Varg looks better quality than this bike. Thanks for the video.👍

[@gabriellebenard5254]

if you pay close to 9k i'd expect my bike not to have transmission problem

[@BIGSMOKE-bl2lq]

The gear box thing is excuse

[@michaelenglund]

Who wants to buy a bike that misbehaves so bad in the beginning? For how long? No, they better fix that problem.

[@davidmcdermott3415]

But do you really NEED a clutch with the electric motor?

[@BIGSMOKE-bl2lq]

Yes

[@jessejuliano8056]

Disappointing overall I think - too heavy. Better to do smaller batteries and offer hot swapping. At least until we get better/lighter batteries. Personally what I really want to start seeing in this e-mx bike reviews is a real gas powered dirt bike riding along and able to compare how they both leave jumps/berms and so on. Its hard to tell how fast or slow or sluggish these are acting without a real mx bike to compare it to.

[@electronracer]

No thanks to the gear box lol. Not needed. Especially from an unproven manufacturer.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Electron Racer Yeahhh

[@stevenash7476]

pour out the old oil is shit and put in 75w makes it so much better

[@sfade6217]

Keep the gear box just give me a clutch so I can modulate powe and not rely on one hand to save my life

[@eastwood111]

273lbs is way to heavy.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@Eastwood It's definitely in the heavyweight category. For reference, the 2007 Honda CRF450X had a dry weight of 255 pounds. Swap that gas motor, add a 4.8kWh battery and different variety of suspension/wheels and the story checks out.

[@GroovyVideo2]

@@ElectricCycleRider need to have Showa / KYB stock -

[@ElectricCycleRider]

@@GroovyVideo2 It would be great to have Showa or KYB but from a manufacturers perspective, it's not as easy as just slapping those components on and putting it into production. KYB or Showa needs to decide that it's in their best interest as a company to supply BHR with these components for mass production. Even if they hypothetically did decide to do that, I'm sure those premium suspension products would be reflected in the price. Simply putting KYB or Showa on a 1 off prototype or project bike is definitely feasible, but everything gets much more complex when the bike actually goes into production. But yeah, I hear you, I personally wish all bikes came with KYB SSS!

[@viciousviolet3783]

I don't like that they are putting gearboxes and clutches on electric dirt bikes. I can understand putting it on a trials bike but a dirt bike doesn't need it.

[@stevenleslie8557]

I don't see the point of having to shift an e-moto bike

[@Jesustheonlymediator]

That’s why you don’t want gears on a ebike

[@darrellmoore6016]

It’s an electric bike you don’t need a shifter I would not buy one

[@164procar4]

Its VERY heavy for a dirtbike

[@xristosd4402]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 4t💪💪💪

[@BrianLampright913]

GEARBOX DOES NOT BELONG ON AN ELECTRIC, come on BHR! Do this bike right and remove the heavy gearbox!!! Keep the clutch but loose the gears!

[@MrWritingGuy]

A gearbox adds unnecessary weight to an electric bike.

[@leejackson2157]

Why the hell would an electric bike need neutral 🤦

[@GiovanniEsposito5]

The frame has nothing to do with the Honda CRF frame, it's not even inspired by if you look at it. CRFs have extruded and cast aluminum frame, while this has a much simpler and cheap welded steel frame that has nothing to do with the Honda one. Geometry may be similar but overall construction is completely different. The plastics have the same mounting point, it's just that. The fact that people keep repeating their shameful marketing pitch is really saddening to me. A serious reviewer and cool guy like you know better! Anyway, I tried a similar thing too last year in Milan, with a different name/brand, but almost the same size and same motor. I hit some false neutral too... and realized that, to me, you must change the final transmission ratio to make the 4 gears gearbox make sense, so that you can use the first gear as super low crawling gear on the trails and the 4th on the road. Overall, the bike I tried seemed too cheap and costed half what BHR asks now (and you can't register it here in Italy). No, thanks... For 4/5K with all the docs to be registered as L3e in Europe it will make much more sense.

[@mitchelljordan447]

First thing I thought too. No where near a honda frame or chassis. Maybe similar geometry, but quality, construction, even materials are way different. Hahaha even with identical geometry an aluminum frame will feel completely different from a steel frame.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

Seems this has struck a cord, so happy to dive into it some more. I have not heard the "shameful marketing pitch" that you're referring to. If you care to expand on what you mean there, I'll listen to your viewpoint about that. I had not heard one person directly compare this chassis to that of a CRF (including BHR) before releasing this video, which is where I'm getting confused by your claim that people are repeating it. I personally had the realization when looking at the frame geometry and design, along with physically riding the BHR, that I could draw some very direct comparisons to the mid 2000's Honda CRF's that I've personally owned over the years. You're absolutely right, Honda CRF's are aluminum. The BHR is steel. My assumption that this is a replica of a CRF frame came from analyzing the two frames and knowing that these style frames have absolutely been replicated by other manufacturers overseas. Yes, materials are different, as you mentioned, and that does have a large impact on the flex characteristics of the chassis. But using close to identical geometry would make me beg to differ on your statement that they have "nothing to do" with each other. The bike feels like a Honda CRF 450X with an electric powerplant. Ask me how I know... Very possible that the bike you rode had a similar, or identical, motor gearbox to this bike. Your thoughts are plausible on that part of the bike. I just don't necessarily subscribe to your arguments about the chassis. Always open to hear your ideas and thanks for bringing it up. Cheers.

[@MotoAlias]

​@@ElectricCycleRider I agree they look similar and have similar geometry of course it's a knock off though and knock off are never as good as the original so it being steel and not lightweight aluminum makes sense. Although that would maybe help them drop the weight on this bike some that's a big no for me on this bike it's just to heavy. I wouldn't mind having a uktra bee though I own a talaria now with bac8000

[@GiovanniEsposito5]

@@ElectricCycleRider I wrote a detailed response but I can't see the message anymore. What happened? Who is that struck a cord here? Uhm... not expecting something like this from you. You are completely wrong about the frame, it has noting to do with Honda at all. I am not asking to subscribe to my argument, there is none, it's a fact. There is no resemblance to mid 2000 honda frame at all, go compare it side by side and it will be absolutely clear. Not mentioning the fact that honda has a complex cast+extrude aluminum construction...while this is cheap steel with arguable welds. I am a bit disappointed in you, repeating the marketing bs that many vendors said on facebook (and got slammed for it). You should know better. For the rest I just expressed my opinion on the gearbox, but I liked in the end, while you seem to had more problems with it than me.

[@socks2441]

not a real bike.

[@BobBob-vq3rb]

I rebuke you

[@happyman8488]

Looks like chinese crap to me. Build guality, material quality and quality control are always issues. I will never buy chinese bikes again. Availability of parts is also a nightmare.

[@GiovanniEsposito5]

It is made in china. They import it and probably they make a better job upgrading some parts, but still... It isn't necessary crap, anyway. The problem is the price.

[@saltyfloridaman7163]

Go ride a Kayo K6 or GPX FSE 450R then tell me if Chinese is junk. They've gotten considerably better although I'd rather not buy from China if avoidable

[@MotoAlias]

Try saying a talaria is crap. The quality is top notch and theirs an endless supply of factory parts for cheap or aftermarket parts of all kinds designs colors reinnforced if you wanna pay a little more. The possibilities are endless and the power to weight ratio is by far the best when upgraded not to mention its usable off road like a dirtbike but still just barely passable as an ebike for in town. Best of both worlds

[@thundercuntinashoefullofpiss]

SEND ME A BIKE PLS .....ILE TEST IT PROPPER 4 U :)

[@BobBob-vq3rb]

I won't take it