I will give u a 14k gold hoop earring if you’d wear it. Complete badass gimmick haha
@toddhutchings9062 жыл бұрын
@@tomburns4669 all me
@gandalf21282 жыл бұрын
I'm not an arm-wrestler, just a fan of the sport. The simplicity of this video... the fact that your cleaning a beta tank with a pepperoni pizza in the oven while sharing "old man" wisdom is awesome. Might be the best 15:30 I've spent on KZbin today. Just subscribed!
@pumppump54282 жыл бұрын
Get a life!
@toddhutchings9062 жыл бұрын
Thank you and welcome
@TravisJones19792 жыл бұрын
I second that. Love ya Todd..u are the man!!! Wish I could have gotten an autograph at the brewery in Virginia but they had u in the back room. But I was there to support
@tortillasarenotbiceps76222 жыл бұрын
Multitasking for dummies. 😉
@jackgaebler11702 жыл бұрын
@@pumppump5428 if your commenting that your the one who should get a life
@audiomystic2 жыл бұрын
Biceps seems like a mostly defensive tool. Also, mostly isometric. Being super strong isometric bicep will help produce a stop along with your other musculature. But won’t produce the drive to the winning side of the table. You make a really good point.
@korben432 жыл бұрын
@Kane but look at his loses... That's very telling. I love Ayello, but he has weaknesses that get exploited by better arm wrestlers.
@korben432 жыл бұрын
You would have a better lockout if you did full ROM instead of the silly and dangerous quarter rep with insane weights...
@korben432 жыл бұрын
@Kane who and what win?
@korben432 жыл бұрын
@Kane I was talking about Ayiello... Not Derek Smith.
@fares.b13012 жыл бұрын
tell me how you do a posting toproll without tremendous hammer curl ?? tell me how to raise your forearms and gain height and leverage without flexing your elbow ?? if anything biceps is the worst thing you can use for defense it's weak and gets tired super quick learn how to use your frame instead
@armwrestling_motivation79792 жыл бұрын
Todd, i love the fact that the video does not have any annoying music playing in the background. Cheers
@parkerkimber24462 жыл бұрын
100%
@MagnumMuscle10002 жыл бұрын
Hanging out at home, drinking a beer, cooking a pizza, cleaning his fish tank, and talking about arm wrestling. A man after my own heart. Toddzilla rules!
@ThePlexman7310 ай бұрын
Fish tank…..I thought it was a coffee maker! Lol
@thearmwrestlingopinion29782 жыл бұрын
Hook puller here and my biceps never get a pump after 2+ hours of practice. It’s all in the forearms and elbow.
@bobomonkey7022 жыл бұрын
Same here
@mrvikingsfan84982 жыл бұрын
Totally agreed I almost never feel anything in my biceps, it’s always inner elbow and my right pectoral in the chest. Next day some soreness in the muscles in the forearm.
@heliosarmwrestling73942 жыл бұрын
Agree
@lordmaster25622 жыл бұрын
Your genetics suck LOL
@bobomonkey7022 жыл бұрын
@@mrvikingsfan8498 Yep my chest also
@pro-mikearmwrestling43782 жыл бұрын
"Yeah I'm working my toproll; because I don't wanna be like a real man I want to toproll" damn Todd shots fired lol Love your content man can't wait to train with you again💪
@gokublack58312 жыл бұрын
Lol
@stevelleremy16852 жыл бұрын
Thats why he got toprolled like nothing by Zoloev lol
@marcinspace Жыл бұрын
I've been binge watching your vids, your content and training tips are awesome to watch
@technokitten20387 ай бұрын
You were always my favourite armwrestler, Todd! I didnt know you had a channel, looking forward to more videos!
@Stargateuntangled2 жыл бұрын
I needed to hear this before I got too carried away with my biceps. Thanks for the advice. Enjoying all of your videos.
@brenth78632 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoy Toddzilla humor
@papluab2 жыл бұрын
I train biceps with pronation involved, the exercises shown in the 201 Armwrestling channel. Full range for the wrist bar and loop belt variations and partial range or statics for the defensive hook variation.
@TimmyTurner4212 жыл бұрын
Yup! Daniel Procopciuc knows a thing or two about armstrength lol
@db_armwrestling8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this gold information Sir!
@justineller67182 жыл бұрын
10:04 Miller High Life in hand, pizza done... toddzilla living the good life 😂😂😂
@keelanenns45485 ай бұрын
I train my biceps on a preacher bench because they are the weakest link in my backpressure chain. I don’t pull dominantly with them, but they fail before my hand and wrist does, so in order for me to toproll someone and use my shoulder power I need biceps to stabilize and keep my shoulder commitment
@Jeff-jp5tu3 ай бұрын
Todd i hope you start posting more your videos are so informative anyway good luck on any upcoming matches champ
@WizardOfCheese2 жыл бұрын
it can 'simulate' side-pressure and is safer than using side-pressure but its more about defence / endurance (i think)
@Sisyphusmyth19932 жыл бұрын
2:48 I don't do supinated biceps curls much, if at all, but I disagree on your statement on hammer curls. You don't necesserily do them just to be able to obtain a downpressure from an opponent, but also to be able to " HAMMER " through the opponent's wrist and fingers if he tries to supinate you or just contain you. Also this will help you to maintain the elbow angle you're most efficient with. I believe most fans of the biceps curls just benefit from the tendon stimulation they are doing on the area, but I agree there're better ways than the mentioned approach.
@toddhutchings9062 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure that small diameter of a dumbbell handle is improving your ability to disable an opponents wrist or fingers
@Sisyphusmyth19932 жыл бұрын
@@toddhutchings906 Nothing itself would work alone. But combined with a strong riser, pronation and wrist curl... I think a strong elbow flexor would offer some support imo. But don't listen to me, I am just a random fan of the top-roll technique.
@damiendelfini17936 күн бұрын
The great Toddzilla with a big T!!
@gb88142 жыл бұрын
The way Toddzilla contantly alters his training program to keep upping his game is so cool. His self analysis is awesome.
@zacharycollierAW-PL2 жыл бұрын
I'm liking the applause at the beginning of each video. I hope you keep this up Todd, good stuff.
@yoshiike12 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how highly everyone on KZbin speaks of you sir nobody ever says any s*** about Toddzilla. Much respect to your mental game as much as physical
@u_suck_i_rock2 жыл бұрын
This is what I love about Hutchings. Doing everyday things while talking arm wrestling and giving great advice. Keeping it real!
@migueliglesiasalcazar8334 Жыл бұрын
What do you think about Levan's training? He mainly trains bicep curls
@jasonmcmanus61692 жыл бұрын
Ive been trying to get my head around that too thank u for clearing that up!
@nickd.72672 жыл бұрын
That's why I always tip Bask N Robbins 😃 knew there would be a Mr. Clean comment lol good stuff Todd. My philosophy, it's good to have a good bicep, but like everything, it comes down to tendons and static strength. All the strange small curls, negatives, all the good things to comprise what I believe is fundamentally important being flexion in your forearm. Like hinges vs joints. The pec, and bicep move only a few ways, the fingers and wrist, they move almost like a universal joint or ball joints on your hand and wrist. Aside from wrist and forearm, deltoid and shoulder side pressure strength I would find is far more important. Pulling is wayyyyyy greater than any lifting. If not completely superceding when it comes to arm wrestling development. Thank you Todd!
@adamhenderson6712 жыл бұрын
Great advice from a great dude! Much appreciated
@MobaCry2 жыл бұрын
I sensed a little uncomfort when your kid came home... He seems to have a big personality...
@escapingbluecollar2 жыл бұрын
I like how Todd is like that arm wrestling uncle we all wish we had. I appreciate your content!
@bobbyrayparris67112 жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@Sanozucke2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Hutchings posting videos and replying comments, what a legend! Love your simplicity.
@csimag2 жыл бұрын
Great show as always Todd. I would be happy to fly to Istanbul from the UK to watch East vs West live, but Engin still hasn't announced if the event will be open for public or not. Do you know by any chance? Thanks
@toddhutchings9062 жыл бұрын
I don’t know anything Engin hasn’t posted already
@ImyaFamilia-jt7ww2 жыл бұрын
Hello Todd. Your reasoning and facts about biceps in arm wrestling are very great! I watched your videos where you train. I also looked at your workout plan. 11 workouts a week, it's incredible!) And the question arose. Tell me, please, do you train even when your muscles and ligaments hurt?
@ImyaFamilia-jt7ww2 жыл бұрын
@Todd Hutchings I mean, if you have a training session today, but your muscles or ligaments hurt, will you train? Or in that case, deviate from the plan?
@toddhutchings9062 жыл бұрын
Yes I train even with pain. Usually warming up helps the pain
@mountaintopmovers95282 жыл бұрын
"Im so strong i can pull yesterdays sunshine into today!" Lol
@dc3_The_Ox Жыл бұрын
Hey Todd, thanks for all the videos. I just tore off my bicep, distal tear. Any recommendations on rehab or any info? Thank you
@toddhutchings906 Жыл бұрын
It took me 6 months, both times Take your time and you’ll be ok.
@87boota2 жыл бұрын
Brutal son
@GuitarmanChase8 ай бұрын
I have to slightly disagree. I remember getting into a grueling match at Sitdown Nationals, the guy took my hand but I sustained him with my bicep. He only won because he eventually stood up and dug into my wrist and the ref didn’t call it. The ref later on said he missed the call. Anyway, the next 3/4 days, my biceps were completely blown moreso than anything else. Of course Sitdown arm wrestling is different than stand up but yeah. Extra strong biceps have helped me progress in arm wrestling.
@leonardo40122 жыл бұрын
Thanks uncle Todd,keep up the great videos,and I tell you something,because of you in my last arm wrestling match in Pa.I was amazing myself on the table ,then after every match I would come over to you for good luck 👍,but funny thing happened ,you left early before all my matches were done,I said to myself there goes my lucky 🍀 charm out the door,and then I came in third in the right arm,and a few weeks later had to have open heart surgery,funny story but true,Dave Morroco,Kenny Smith know about the heart surgery.So next time you have to leave,don’t take all the strong 💪 aura that you carry around!!!!
@davidlarry64762 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it xilla, keep em coming!
@sinpoeanarconna2974 Жыл бұрын
Hello Todd. I am Chin Chang Chon Ching.... big fan.
@TimmyTurner4212 жыл бұрын
4:00 Your match with Marcio is one of the best, most intense matches I've seen. Epic! Can't wait to see the rematch 💪💪
@MrDevinSmith182 жыл бұрын
What if I use really fat grips on the dumbbells and barbells? I feel like I use a lot more muscles in my forearm than in my bicep when I use them.
@eeshan11382 жыл бұрын
6030? Umm hmm...time to catch uncle Todd on his math 😂😂. Jokes apart, a question - what you mentioned about wrist wrench and lifting your PR one way made complete sense but what if people come into the sport with extraordinarily strong biceps and then forge their style around it? If we do a break down of armwrestling movements then what you say indeed is the most efficient way to get stronger in those movements but is it right that people develop their dominant styles based on some inherent strengths and if yes did your side pressure dominant style arose out of your particular strengths? Thanks for the content, sir. Always look forward to your videos. Have a great weekend.
@eeshan11382 жыл бұрын
@Harald Arnold-Larsen I agree with that. People will always work to strengthen their weakest link. At the same time, those people may already have a solid bicep training regimen and thus they keep incorporating that in their armwrestling routine and it being their strong suit, may develop a style surrounding their strengths too.
@milan.s26812 жыл бұрын
Who know this bulgarian armwrestler which Todd mention (name)? Anyway great video. I have same experience. Only parts which hurt after armwrestling are fingers and forearms.
@herbits2 жыл бұрын
As a posting toproller, i would argue that a good biceps improves your hit (without the strap). If the opponent lets you load alot, bicep strength is important. I would say all strength is important but in a hierarchy. I would never pick a strong bicep over a strong hand/wrist, but someone with a strong hand/wrist and a strong biceps got more power over all.
@toddhutchings9062 жыл бұрын
As a posting top roller I contend you have even less use for a strong bicep than a inside puller
@richardjennex65832 жыл бұрын
Good evening my friend hope all is well with you and your family and thank you for sharing your knowledge and information also would love to meet you someday
@jaclamac18 ай бұрын
Do you sell these programs?
@sherlock80912 жыл бұрын
That's why I love arm wrestling 💪🏻 always interesting
@Sinkatze2 жыл бұрын
Does his son not know how big of a legend his dad is?
@toddhutchings9062 жыл бұрын
He has no idea
@DanHammarstrom2 жыл бұрын
I can lissen to words of wisdom like this all day. Very educational 💪🥇
@Obsorb2 жыл бұрын
2:23 - 2:26 . It is, indeed
@colecruzat45952 жыл бұрын
Hey Todd, thanks for the insight. I mostly agree with you. However there are many examples most notably Levan who seems to train heavy biceps vary regularly and he has a lot of success. I am aware that he obviously trains his hand and wrist a lot. But he wouldn’t be training biceps so much if he didn’t believe in the carryover to the table. I guess what I’m saying is, do you think the reason he trains biceps so religiously is because it stylistically is beneficial for him? Or do you think that if he trained other things other than biceps he would be even stronger?
@Spandex082 жыл бұрын
Todd is just explaining how biceps are not useful for offensive armwrestling, but for defensiver its super important resource
@toddhutchings9062 жыл бұрын
I think there are rare and elite bicep pullers. I advocate a different path
@TimmyTurner4212 жыл бұрын
Biceps lifts get the most views
@PabloChmip2 жыл бұрын
@@toddhutchings906 They get views & hype thats all
@TimmyTurner4212 жыл бұрын
@@PabloChmip that impressive curling strength didn't help Irakli much against Sasho did it
@richardjennex65832 жыл бұрын
Love the way you talk about stuff because anyone can’t understand it also it’s funny as hell lol
@Russellmonroe3142 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@Matt-ej1mb Жыл бұрын
I agree that maxing out on curls is useless but they are definetely involved.. the forearms is the most important but the brachialis / brachialis on a toproll and biceps on a hook ( expecially on a difensive position ) are massively important. If you are a side pressure kind of pullers i don't think they are that important thought.. but if you are like more of a defensive guy they play a big role. Devon pre Kings move was definetely using a lot of biceps tho
@maalikserebryakov Жыл бұрын
Then why Denis Cyplenkov who is much better than Toddzilla break the world record in Strict curl and advised many beginner arm wrestlers like Khaled to strengthen their Biceps? How denis have ten times more Side Pressure than Toddzilla if Bicep is useless???
@Matt-ej1mb Жыл бұрын
@@maalikserebryakov maxing out = 1 rep max. I didnt said biceps are useless
@maalikserebryakov Жыл бұрын
@@Matt-ej1mb cyplenkov maxed out on the strict curl
@toddhutchings906 Жыл бұрын
You go and train like Dennis, then come back when you are as good as him and share your experience.
@maalikserebryakov Жыл бұрын
@@toddhutchings906 Lol Genes man, genes
@alecguth22002 жыл бұрын
Thank you uncle Todd
@mikimiyazaki2 жыл бұрын
Todd is hilarious. Just facts nobs and alot of awesome sarcasm.
@enricozenatelli76502 жыл бұрын
Hi Todd, I love this talk!! I have a difficult question for you this time: When you armwrestle and you start losing your hand but there is something (the gap is small) will you fight for the hand or you just give that away and pull with the arm? Sometimes when I give the hand I find myself with cup gone and palm at the ceiling and I can't do so much in that position... Thanks for your help
@enricozenatelli76502 жыл бұрын
@22 Dev flop does not work when you have your palm up watch Todd vs Jerry match when Jerry pushed Todd out of the pad to have the restart he has no choice
@enricozenatelli76502 жыл бұрын
@22 Dev I saw that different times but as I said it doesn't work with your palm up
@toddhutchings9062 жыл бұрын
Palm up is a bad position. You have options once your hand is compromised, if your knuckles are up. I’ve never had luck getting my hand back once it was gone so I’ll slip or end the match anyway I can as soon as I can
@enricozenatelli76502 жыл бұрын
@22 Dev thanks
@arncj182 жыл бұрын
Hey Mr Proper do you shave daily?
@TheKruxed2 жыл бұрын
Thanks dad
@Bparagon2 жыл бұрын
Looking good Mr Clean 💪
@flingkid92 жыл бұрын
Damn beat me to it lol
@davena27562 жыл бұрын
@@flingkid9 Me tooooo💪💪💪
@bobcooter2 жыл бұрын
he's after that lucrative arm wrestler / cleaning product mascot gig, crafty divil.
@Bparagon2 жыл бұрын
@@bobcooter Yea I feel like he knew what he was doing wearing the white shirt and white pants
@1983mack19832 жыл бұрын
Mr. Todd looking like he's about to walk onto a low budget porn set being recorded on a VHS 😅
@Bazerker2 жыл бұрын
No benefit? Even coming back from a losing position see.s like having a good curl power would help that!? What are your thoughts Todd??? And I totally agree with you and our armwrestling style is identical so I love to go into the hook just asking.
@toddhutchings9062 жыл бұрын
I still think you should be on your shoulder
@yellowflash55552 жыл бұрын
The one arm table curls doesn't make sense to me and I started armwrestling last year, your workouts gotta be similar to armwrestling and nothing beats Table time! Grip and Rip as many people as possible
@armwrestlingfan68042 жыл бұрын
Toddzilla makes me smile :)
@crucifixgym2 жыл бұрын
I care.
@patedison59022 жыл бұрын
We Care 🙂
@thanatos57652 жыл бұрын
As a new puller (0,5 year at the time ) I was at practice, my top roll/post was ok, but when we tried hook, man, my arm was oped up like a sack of potatoes, I had absolutely nothing. My biceps always sucked, it was weak af, so I figured out why not to get it once, twice a week into my routine with all the lifts I am doing. I takes like 7 minutes to train them for me, I usually train on a preacher, I go to 90 degrees with my forearm and up without any body motion. I do one RMs or sets of 3/5. I could not lift 26 kg a year ago, now I am doing 35 kg.
@toddhutchings9062 жыл бұрын
Training your biceps is a poor choice to prevent your arm from opening. There are just not that many good bicep pullers out there
@thanatos57652 жыл бұрын
@@toddhutchings906 well yes, but my biceps sucked so much I felt it as major weakness. I train everything else as well tho
@hchannel37932 жыл бұрын
@@toddhutchings906 what do you suggest to be trained Todd for not getting your hand open
@toddhutchings9062 жыл бұрын
@@hchannel3793 All hand power starts with cupping. Get that up and everything will fall into place. Good luck. Let me know how it goes
@hchannel37932 жыл бұрын
@@toddhutchings906 ok sure I will I don't have who to do sparring with I need to be vaccinated to do sparring in gym so but will definetly do what you said I have done wirst curls with 60kg for 2 reps that's my max I feel I have strong wrist but my fingers are weak
@simplec62 жыл бұрын
Todd, you are such a class act, brother. I love your humility, honesty, respect and kindness. A true gentleman of the sport. Keep trucking my brother
@Roadtolbsbenchpress2 жыл бұрын
Hey Todd I have a question and I would really appreciate your answer, how much would you estimate your bench max to be?
@toddhutchings9062 жыл бұрын
I’ve never done 400, but I think I’m close based on the improvement in JM Press. I would say I’m north of 350 easy
@Roadtolbsbenchpress2 жыл бұрын
@@toddhutchings906 thank you for the reply sir, I respect you and love you so much!
@davelyman92702 жыл бұрын
Do you still shoot bow or did you stop when you started arm wrestling
@jesseleep89212 жыл бұрын
We love you Father Todd.
@nashvillearmwrestling97152 жыл бұрын
I really think it just takes a very very long time to become any sort of good, pulling with your bicep. Side pressure is absolutely the most effective and quickest way to become a top tier arm wrestler.
@Comediansbeingcringe2 жыл бұрын
You're really great at speaking, could you please upload more videos for us!
@hungandfaded8152 жыл бұрын
4:26 😂😂😂 “looked like I’ve been working at basking robins for 70 years”
@davidredmon1802 жыл бұрын
True story!!
@robavis49062 жыл бұрын
That pizza looked pretty good. Was it delivery or degornos?
@bw60782 жыл бұрын
Always good talkin and good direction from ya pops.
@CarsonsCat2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Todd ! , Great to hear for a novice like me .
@andreweaton54032 жыл бұрын
Haha the way you present information is hilarious 😂
@JD73RD2 жыл бұрын
I've always been a fan of Todd without knowing his personality. Now that I've seen more of him in a candid environment I'm a huge fan. The sense of humor, demeanor and honesty is very refreshing. The kind of guy you want to just hang out and have a beer with. Cool dude.
@arncj182 жыл бұрын
I feel this is directed to Levan
@Crimilion2 жыл бұрын
Why after table time my biceps and pronator are sore for 1 week, my elbow is fine. How’s that?
@toddhutchings9062 жыл бұрын
I don’t know You may be a rare bicep puller. I would change that 😂
@PulseoTV2 жыл бұрын
So based on this what are your thoughs on irakly and levan? They almost based their training on heavy biceo curling
@toddhutchings9062 жыл бұрын
Levan is one of the rare super elite bicep pullers. There are others. Our sport hasn’t evolved to the stage where only a few techniques are successful. Just because dozens out of 10’s of thousands do it, does not make it a prime path.
@Hansi_Hinterseer2 жыл бұрын
Are you cleaning the fish tank with the dishwashing brush?
@jhoninfante86832 жыл бұрын
Hey Mr.Hutchings is the moustache ever coming back ? I kinda miss it
@toddhutchings9062 жыл бұрын
Undecided. Single life is complicated
@NSB25445 Жыл бұрын
Hey Todd, don't put your hardscape from the fish tank in chlorinated water, you are crashing the nitrogen cycle.
@jeremyzhang25042 жыл бұрын
I love how you’re just facing away from the camera
@eane72382 жыл бұрын
IMO biceps are fun to train and the weight is heavy so people do them, they're pretty low ROI as you said.
@kelanmccormack28282 жыл бұрын
Hey Todd! I have nationals coming up, do you have any videos of how to taper for an up coming match?
@toddhutchings9062 жыл бұрын
I don’t taper
@maxxxmodelz40612 жыл бұрын
LOL. The RVJ "Bicep School" analogy is brilliant storytelling. Love it.
@live4real4962 жыл бұрын
Hmmm question. I'm bald too and have the same fish tank but why do I suck at side pressure?
@LaddRusso912 жыл бұрын
You wearing full white?
@toddhutchings9062 жыл бұрын
You gotta watch all the videos
@blsemetan72322 жыл бұрын
But Todd you still do bicep exercises, like the 3 or 4 inch PVC pipe weighted pull-ups... I know it's more for cupping but still, it's hitting those biceps big time. : ) I do agree with you, most of those curls we see are cheat curls... they are not fully working the biceps.
@derbycityarmwrestling73002 жыл бұрын
I think the best way to train biceps for armwrestling if you are going to do bicep curls is to have your arms at parallel to the floor at the top of the motion.
@toddhutchings9062 жыл бұрын
The discussion is about heavy bicep lifts. I discuss full range bicep training in the video
@Flornmonk2 жыл бұрын
Todd flexing hard on us with that small t-shirt
@mikehofer87082 жыл бұрын
Good day sir Mr Todd. I have a question id like you to answer. What's the best exercise I can do for my armwrestling . Off the armwrestling table
@toddhutchings9062 жыл бұрын
Best exercise hands down is wrist wrench on pulley machine. With no table, best exercise would be pull ups on a spinning 4”+ bar. Or some sort of plyometric. Maybe throwing a 40 pound dumbbell or kettlebell
@operationtangoromeo49003 ай бұрын
I care Todd.
@dcgaming68982 жыл бұрын
straight facts
@GangdamStyle202 жыл бұрын
Mr. Propper in the kitchen cleaning and talking about byceps curls in armwrestling. Good times!!!!
@Va4esS2 жыл бұрын
preach, Todd, preach, great content - educating, yet still entertaining as balls
@davesmith98142 жыл бұрын
many could argue the same regarding deadlifts, yet it's part of your training. maybe I am missing the point? more about that dragging side pressure?
@devoncyplenkov77462 жыл бұрын
Deadlifts are useless for armwrestling just so you know
@toddhutchings9062 жыл бұрын
Deadlifts are General Physical Prepardeness for me.
@toddhutchings9062 жыл бұрын
I disagree
@ryanjames95992 жыл бұрын
Do you think that you don't use your ass, stomach, back, grip, ect... like, everything you use in armwrestling - and pretty much any aspect of strength - deadlift trains it...
@ryanjames95992 жыл бұрын
@@devoncyplenkov7746 I see you everywhere, this comment cements the fact that you're either 12 years old or just a very weak man.