BIG Admech Rules Preview - Every Forge World Dogma, Stratagem and Relics!

[@auspextactics]

CORRECTION: Ryza's melee buff is +1 to the WOUND ROLL - not plus 1 to the number of attacks. Frankly that's even better most of the time! Ryza are basically the Blood Angels of the Admech now and looking thoroughly murderous! Thanks to Ian Mink for spotting the mistake, and sorry about the error.

[@LowinBayrod]

The new Ryza's Ruststalkers got pushed to 11 this edition.

[@PromKnight]

Also worth noting is Wrath of Mars was flat 2cp before, not flat 1. Bit of a buff for smaller units unlikely to hit the cap there

[@Deknek]

with what we know 'bout the new statline and the forgeworld, do you think Pteraxii are still a safe bet vs Serberys? Asking for new army, hesitating to take 5 pteraxii + 3 serberys or 6 serberys. Thinking on using sulphurhound, depending on what change on rules.

[@EnRandomSten]

the stygies stratagem is actually the origional version of it that is written in the skitarii codex lol it was later replaced with the pre game movement but now we're back full circle.

[@rydoe]

I'm pretty sure it was also a pregame movement in its original state with the benefit of dropping 9" away before the first battleround instead of during deployment.

[@EnRandomSten]

@@rydoe I have the codex infront of me. It's exactly like the one we got now only without the core infantry part since it's from 7th

[@aubreymink3984]

The image says +1 to wound roll, not plus one attack

[@auspextactics]

Good spot, thanks for the heads up - I've posted a correction above. I guess they're the Blood Angels of the Admech now!

[@aubreymink3984]

@@auspextactics Always Excited to see your work! And as a Ryza Player for more reasons than Plasma, i was super invested!

[@paultrasband]

Initial reaction to the Stygies change is very sad.

[@vineheart01]

Ryza might become the go-to forgeworld now. People ran them in the past purely for the plasma strat, which while nerfed is still 3dmg plasmas if charged. Now the base rule for Ryza has teeth so the rest of the army actually does something too

[@shanepatrick4534]

I thought this was a bout FW products. Not the individual Forge Worlds. It's always nice to paint your guys how you like and just play them as whatever sub faction you want. I do that with Custodes.

[@Kaanfight]

That’s the best way to play. Rules change, paint jobs don’t.

[@shanepatrick4534]

@@Kaanfight Not easily anyway. The trick is coming up with a really good color scheme.

[@Kaanfight]

@@shanepatrick4534 hell, I just come up with color schemes that look cool to me

[@shanepatrick4534]

@@Kaanfight The "Rule of Cool" is what's really important.

[@D00M3R-SK8]

I'm probs painting mine in my own version of the mars scheme, but that's mainly because they're the imperial colours that priests have always been, so it makes sense to me. I will however still run them as whatever I want to, because they're not mars, they just have imperial colours. I don't know if I will ever run into problems doing this though, would it not just be the insignia on the transfers that people could have a problem with? red and bone is pretty standard for imperials, it always has been, even in fantasy.

[@araukoruth]

Ryza's dogma gives +1 to wound in the first round of mele, not +1 Attack. BA vibes there.

[@alexcass7855]

Lucius's stratagem actually got a nerf - it previously didn't have any restrictions on what could be shoved into the teleport chamber. Know a fair number of people would use it to teleport in a large group of Kastelans, which are counted as vehicles. Kinda sad to see the Beep Boop Bomb go tbh

[@shanepatrick4534]

I hope they don't do this to Custodes. I love to DS a Telemon Dreadnought with two Caestus or an Achillies Dred.

[@PromKnight]

This was one of my favorite off meta tricks, robots are slow but teleporting up the board and giving them a 3++ or immediately double shooting was always scary

[@tzaphkielconficturus7136]

It's an odd nerf, as well, considering that Lucius has cannonically teleported Onegers, and even Knight Errants into battle, agains tthe Tyranids, though the ability to do so is a recent development, as I understand, so it would almost certainly be unavailable to the explorator fleets most armies are for fluff.

[@1MusicInterpeter]

Geez, I just finished watching your newest Admech video sayiny codex was coming this week and than boom! You drop this right after. You are a machine at getting content out. So excited for the new codex.

[@eelacanth]

this feels veeery similar to necron dynasties: mars = szarekhan, lucius = mephrit, agripinaa = mephrit, graia = szarekhan, ryza = novokh (but better) looks like this is the way they're doing factions from now on on the one hand, it *should* make factions closer in power, but it might also make them very samey and less unique

[@johnleathers5945]

I own Admech and I recently started playing Necrons a month ago, and the first time I listened to this I thought I saw the Mephrit and Novokh similarities. It appears they’ve shifted them... slightly for each sub faction

[@heraissilly]

It's still better than 8th, where each army had 'the stealthy one (raven guard, stygies, alpha legion etc), the ignores cover one and so on.

[@thomasmacabee8361]

@Scoobs Plural Yea this is what I was thinking.

[@_Aly_00_]

Blessed is the Omnissiah and Auspex Tactics for bringing us this news

[@darkmagpiestudios8222]

Looking at this, I am very optimistic for future IG regiments.

[@TheZedman5000]

I wonder if Graia’s doctrine change is indicative of Bionics changing from a Invul save to a FNP, since the Refusal to Yield (6+ roll to not die on a unit’s death) didn’t stack with FNPs previously.

[@amoralsupport672]

They probably want to maintain rules consistency and having a mechanically different rule with largely the same effect would be bad design on their part.

[@RockerDanM]

Interested to see what Canticles will be in the new codex, since Mars is the only one who can put them on skitaari units (which is about 50% of the range), so this will help any skorpius, archaeopter, onager and Ironstriders. Even if unique canticles aren't brought back Doctrines seem to be a unique thing too so hopefully it will balance out.

[@samuelharmssambamsjm269]

Given the buffs that Kataphrons are set to receive, part of me wondered if they would be moving to elites or Heavy support...

[@rileysimpson6536]

They'll stay troops thanks to the defence matrix detachment in charadon iirc

[@samuelharmssambamsjm269]

@@rileysimpson6536 wasn’t aware... that’s crazy. Guess their getting a point hike...

[@rileysimpson6536]

@@samuelharmssambamsjm269 They'll either become unusable from points hike, or stay absurdly cheap and still be the comp meta

[@TheENxis]

Keeping kataphrons points mostly unchanged could be justified with them most likely losing core. The +2/+3 saves are nice for sure, but not being core means access to rerolls will disappear, and that arc weapon custom dogma will get axed for sure.

[@philippemichelhely]

I'm very happy by how right you pronounced "autosavant"

[@paultrasband]

I hate the fact that work is making me wait to actually watch this

[@demonblade56]

Hoping they keep rad-saturated forge world. Was best match for Ratmech kitbash army

[@zackcook5123]

Ratmech can you explain? I'm assuming its skaven admech which would be cool, or it's it a roached out damaged looking admech.

[@zanewarp3970]

Damn, great work cranking this video out this quickly

[@morkaili]

I am really curios of the Knights will be handled in the upcoming Admech codex, I just hope it will finally be worth it for them to use them.

[@thecoolerrats7144]

Some vehicles getting core for admech makes sense, I mean they are the people who make and maintain the Imperium’s vehicles.

[@absintel]

As soon as I saw the article I was waiting for this video to drop.

[@Higolx]

Curious to see how the Metalica dogma is going to affect units that gain buffs for bringing larger numbers. I wonder if for example Daemonettes are going to looser their +1 attack ability since they are considered to be below half-strength?

[@renderscott]

Or perhaps poxwalkers as well. I think it will count, cuz that seems to be the point. Scaring them so hard that they forget half of their mates

[@ThePoolx]

Isn't it only for morale purposes?

[@dmck1436]

Ryza with Ruststalkers or even Infiltrators with Power Swords wound lots of things on like 2+ 3+... and sick amounts of AP. Are RustSalkers in a DuneRider the new Electro Priests?

[@TheArcass]

Karaphron not being troops would make sense in the context of the new combat patrol box. The unit mix for the combat patrols has typically been 1 HQ, 1 Troop unit, 1 vehicle and 1 other unit I think?

[@eddievalencia403]

Who says they're not troops?

[@Momentomori916]

Always delighted by your content. 😊

[@jameszoeller1517]

The new Wrath of Mars looks like it'll work pretty well with PTERAXII STERYLIZORS now that's 1 CP. A nice buff to an already pretty good unit in my eyes.

[@Zap717]

Think we'll get Deimos rules dropped alongside the 9th Grey Knights codex?

[@genis999591]

The Acolytes of the Solar Blessing (my AdMech army) is a little sad that we can’t teleport Melee Kastellans in anymore but hey, free armor against damage one is awesomely

[@LowinBayrod]

Now hoping the Litany of the Electromancer canticle becomes as good as it was in 7th instead of the actual trash it currently is. It's even better in kill team !

[@davidmendez9256]

10:00 Ryza gets +1 to wound not +1 attacks. Which is just insane

[@judeburges3241]

with the wrath of mars you used to be able to buff a unit of 6 Kastelan Robots to where they would have 118 shots hitting on 3+ re roll failed with exploding 6's meaning you would have 157 hits and then 1/6 of them would be mortal wounds meaning that you could output 26 mortal wounds in addition to normal dmg, it was broken but fun af

[@mikerbrenizer]

The wording says 6 MW/model. So with 6 models you can max out at 36MW still.

[@MegaGlassguy]

@@mikerbrenizer no it says 6MW for the unit being attacked. 36MW would be way too broken.

[@mikerbrenizer]

@@MegaGlassguy read Wrath of mars again my dude. "Each time a MoDeL IN THAT UNIT makes an attack" is pretty clear it means every model in a unit gets the 6 MW maxout. So 6 models will max out at 36.

[@MegaGlassguy]

@@mikerbrenizer and you should read the entire thing. "Each time a model in that unit makes an attack, an unmodified wound roll of 6 inflicts 1 mortal wound on the target in addition to any normal damage (to a maximum of 6 mortal wounds)." The 6 mortal wound limit is on the TARGET, so no matter how many models shoot you won't get a better result than that. But clearly they'll FAQ this since some people think they can get 36 mortal wounds at the cost of 2 CP.

[@mikerbrenizer]

@@MegaGlassguy 6 MW per model..shooting phase. Clear as mud.. Not fighting you mate. If you play 40k, then I count you a brother in arms. As you said, this will need a FAQ. And so help me if I ever meet your ass in a tourney... The first rounds on me.

[@MegaGlassguy]

I have a Necron army with the Nephrekh dynasty and I started painting my Admech with Stygies colors. Looks like I'll be playing underdog subfactions this edition :\ On the other hand, it makes it all the more satisfying to pull off a victory.

[@Alex-pc4ms]

You know you can paint your toaster-boys in rainbow and declare any FW, right? Right??

[@MegaGlassguy]

@@Alex-pc4ms oh sure, but I still painted them Stygies because I was planning to play as them.

[@ForTehNguyen]

they need to FAQ wrath of mars already. Some will interpret it as 6 max MW per model. Its obviously max 6 MW in the phase like what the necron mephrit talent for annihilation explicitly says.

[@accursedblackmage]

Seeing that interpretation a lot in the Facebook groups.

[@zaganim3813]

and of course mars is locked at 6 while mephrit is locked at 3 because.. IMPERIUM BIAS

[@TazTaser]

Considering the necrons mortal wound cap is 3, 6 feels quite generous.

[@Daekeras]

its 6 per models, not units.. it will be FAQ day 1 à presume or it will be overpowered

[@BigBex]

@@Daekeras oh snap, i didn't realize THAT!!!

[@Terencekaiser]

@@Daekeras Hmm...yeah!? Each time a *model* in that unit rolls a 6 it does a mortal wound (capped at 6). Very much reads like it is capped at 6 per model.

[@peters6345]

@@Daekeras I think the intent is max 6 for the strat, but people will exploit the wording so I expect a faq

[@tomhorton8365]

@@Daekeras It's quite clearly intended to mean that it's capped at 6 total for the strat. It would be a real "that guy" move to argue that it's 6 per model...

[@deadlysnipe12]

Sounds like you mispoke with Ryza's Dogma, you don't get +1 attacks, you get +1 to wound in charges.

[@vulkhanasennet9961]

I really want to see the unique/custom options, I want to replicate Bellus Prime.

[@jittersgeyser620]

Stygies seem pretty powerful. -1 hit via dense cover....

[@MrEdge6677]

Just started the video, hope to the Omnissiah the relics are actually good this time.

[@peters6345]

Ryza is so tempting me to start admech :D +1 to wound, close combat cyborgsss

[@kristopherbruns7674]

I don't like them messing with Canticles of the Omnisaih. Thats was one of the iconic elements of this army.

[@renderscott]

I agree

[@ThetaRho-]

In 7th edition cult had canticles, skitarii had doctrina imperatives. If you checked Sundays article, it is mentioned that imperatives are returning for skitarii. If anything, this is a return to form after 8th stripped the army of its flavor.

[@renderscott]

Perhaps a lot of ppl are 8th ED plebs (myself included) that dont know the old ways ;)

[@linkofvev]

Well, I lost my wager that Canticles would just become Admech's doctrines like Power from pain did for Dark Eldar.

[@themos9751]

Maybe the mechanicus thinks that the blood angels will finally share the Baal predator STC if they act more like blood angels themselves

[@TaRatTinCan]

I think you misread, Ryza got +1 to would on charge, not +1 attack. Also I might be wrong, but the Clandestine Infiltration got to the original wording, instead of FAQ’d one later in 8th.

[@Mig31A]

Mars is a wild card until we know what canticles does now. Personally I think it is in the middle of the pack since it's Stratagem is limited to 6 mortal wounds

[@МихаилСтрогов-ш4ж]

Judging by what is previewed - Mars is easliy best FW. One reroll on all heavy hitters guns is better then any of the other FW buffs. And Wrath of Mars...

[@Mig31A]

@@МихаилСтрогов-ш4ж true, I was thinking Metallica or Ryza would be a good challenge. Though you do bring up a good point. A bunch of vanguards can still get 6 mortal wounds easily.

[@МихаилСтрогов-ш4ж]

@@Mig31A The way its worded, its not even limited now. Its 6 MW per model.

[@Mig31A]

@@МихаилСтрогов-ш4ж hmm, I guess you are right since it doesn't specify the unit but in the sentence that is talking about per model. Well damn

[@TazTaser]

@@МихаилСтрогов-ш4ж when a Mars unit... rofl

[@AJ-zy2ol]

It would be nice to see 30k units able to be used in the AdMech army besides just the Hoplites. like Legions/Astartes. Another missed opportunity I guess.

[@DarthNov]

And one complained about drukhari being op. This is looking super scary and ad mech counter every vehicle faction with their shooting. And don’t forget about the indirect stuff 😇😅

[@smokepotion6981]

wait, so plasma doesn't auto kill anymore?

[@MegaGlassguy]

not for Destroyers, they changed it to inflicting 1 mortal wound on the model instead.

[@smokepotion6981]

@@MegaGlassguy that's going to make them the most reliable plasma gunners in the imperium. Interesting.

[@JohnSmith-fu2kz]

I used to run 10 infiltrators with 50 shots total choosing to reroll 1’s with canticles and boost their hit by +1 using another stratagem to shoot 50 dice hitting on 2’s rerolling 1’s and mortal wounding every 6 off the wounds... average of 8-11 mortal wounds instant 🥺 I’m really sad now...

[@damianhopmam4092]

Graia's stratagems used to be for infantry only but now it is for everything so i think it's a buff

[@zapatoothetiger5085]

Im sad about my Graia army. I wanted "refusal to yield" to be exactly like "disgustingly resilient".

[@damianhopmam4092]

@@zapatoothetiger5085 yeah same

[@supremetarantulasorcerer165]

STYGIES VIII WOOOOOOH!!REPRESENT!!

[@Okutox]

Praise be the true omnissiah

[@randomtechpriest8460]

Ayyy!

[@seatcheeks4242]

WE INFILTRATIN' AGAIN WOOO

[@charlesb.1945]

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[@Devious_Craven]

*BEEP*

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

Graia really took that to the face. Ouch. That's a hard nerf from their 6+ refuse to die post death/flee save. Is it just me, or would moral be MUCH better if Combat Attrition started at 1-2 fails and went up from there?

[@thegleeman7535]

Yeah, as someone who ran my custom forge world as Graia, it looks to be pretty painful of a nerf. I liked having my units just refuse to die/run. At least they can do some stuff in the psychic phase. Probably gonna shift to using Metallica rules.

[@philliphampton5380]

Cool, looks like auto pick Mars again as WoM is actually buffed with the cp drop and you let your Skitarii get Canticals. As apparently, Skitarii do not get those anymore.

[@Maffar123]

Since the Agripinaa relic make a difference between core unit and kataphrons, if there is no reroll hit for unit s other than core, kataphrons seems dead to me ;(

[@D00M3R-SK8]

I hope not, I just bought 6 boxes of kataphrons. ha ha.

[@1nePercentJuice]

You are a prolific poster. God bless you.

[@veameal9725]

*Rubs face enthusiastically* Yuusssss thaaaankkk yooouuu Auuuspeeexxx

[@jeffreycrowder2866]

As always a great video Cheers

[@Deathaven]

Wrath of Mars getting the nerf bat sucks. It was the best stratagem IMO. I’m curious about canticles, they seem to be only for Mars looking at all this? But I am glad Mars is no longer the only decent dogma to go to.

[@D00M3R-SK8]

Any ideas which FW will be best for having a lot of breachers/destroyers, please? as I just bought 6 boxes of them. I know they were not really competitive a week ago, but I had a little gamble that they might be a hell of a lot better in the new book (I also have 4 walkers and 4 start collecting boxes, the dominus and manipulus, and 2 boxes of electro priests) I'm hoping what I have can become the bones of something, and then I just pad out the elites/flying etc when I know what's what. I didn't want to go in on priests in case sicarians end up being better for me. all in all I'm looking forward to getting the book. I would like to make a start though, so might just paint an Enginseer for now, to practice my scheme.

[@amoralsupport672]

Ryza most likely. plus 1 damage on overcharged plasma culverines is quite nice.

[@zaganim3813]

breachers not competetive. wat

[@D00M3R-SK8]

@@zaganim3813 what I mean is that you never seen them in winning netlists. I'm sure they're really good in regular games.

[@sadlerbw9]

I have so very much I want to say, but at this point I feel like I am in great danger of being wrong if I don’t wait to see the rest of the data sheets and what they have done with Canticles, custom forge worlds, and the Holy Order warlord traits...well, warlord traits in general, I suppose. In particular, the data sheets for the rest of our HQ’s and the Kastellans + Datasmith are still likely to be a very big deal. I’m trying hard not to jump the gun on theory-crafting without the full picture. That said, I do have a few thoughts so far: - Wrath of Mars didn’t get nerfed as hard as I suspected, and the 1CP/2CP treatment was a welcome touch. - ...Which makes it all the more strange that they didn’t go 1CP/2CP for the Ryza Plasma strat. It got nerfed so hard that I’m not sure it will ever make sense to use on Vanguard with Plasma Calivers or Servitors with Plasma Cannon. I think it is balanced assuming it will always be used on a blob of Kataphron Destroyers, but we shall see. - The Weapon Relics still appear to suck. The Red Axe was ALMOST good, except you can’t use it on a Manipulus, where the extra 3 attacks plus the D6 mechadendrites would almost make an OK melee character. With it being locked to Dominus and Enginseers, it is still probably a pass. The relic guns are just...there. It looks like our relics that buff other units will continue to be far better than the ones that buff their bearer, but maybe there will be a decent generic relic?

[@MegaGlassguy]

I just rechecked, there's no mention that the Red Axe can't be given to a Manipulus. "Mars model with an Omnissian Axe only". So making it a decent melee character is feasible.

[@sadlerbw9]

@@MegaGlassguy I made the same mistake you have when I first read the text: The Manipulus doesn't have an Omnissian AXE, it has an Omnissian STAFF, so it doesn't meet the criteria! The only models we have with Omnissian Axes are Bellisarius Cawl, the Dominus, and the Enginseer. You can't give it it Cawl because he is a named Character, The Dominus doesn't have the extra D6 Mechadendrite attacks to benefit from any other Melee buffs you might use, and the Enginseer just isn't very good in general.

[@MegaGlassguy]

@@sadlerbw9 ah I see. a shame

[@djc1375]

Lucius will be good its +1to amour on all damage 1so in close combat vs most things +1armour

[@gweegweezoozoo]

Forgeworld lemuria when

[@bennemeth625]

Maaaaan I hate what they did to Graia. Running Graia fulgurites was hilarious, gave them two layers of ignoring death.

[@vortex594]

i hate to tell you this, but even with the current codex Graia doesn't stack with the Fulgurites' ability.

[@bennemeth625]

@@vortex594 Aw man what? Is that in an FAQ or something? Or am I just blind?

[@MegaGlassguy]

@@bennemeth625 yeah, the 9th rules clearly establish that if a unit has multiple rules that allows to ignore wounds (in this case the priest's FNP 5+ and Graia's FNP 6+), you can only use one of them.

[@bennemeth625]

@@MegaGlassguy I thought it was a little different though, since Graia isn't all wounds, it just ignores death or routing.

[@fistimusmaximus6576]

Poor graia.

[@dicedoom7162]

i dont like the simalarities with necrons. couple to any of the same stratagems and army rules IMO.

[@0XFallen]

similarities that are shared between all armies

[@Blackout7850]

Ryza's dogma is +1 to wound, rather than +1 attack.

[@00nasco48]

Yes

[@akaikiseki9346]

A prayer for all AdMech Ryza players that thought their Plasma gunline wasn't getting SHAFTED ! Honestly, I don't understand why they need that CORE keyword. Especially if it's effect aren't linear/the same on a CORE VEHICULE. It juste adds complexity for pretty much nothing interesting in return. Also they haven't shown the most important Custom Dogma (still have to use that shitty Primary/Secondary system when everyone else doesn't have too), AKA Data-Hoard Arc Weapon. I'm getting ready to sell all my Breachers tbh, that armor/power creep + no mention of it even if it's the strongest to show something else that has barely changed is really, REALLY fucking scary.

[@UmJammaLamma]

Ryza totally aren't blood angels ;)

[@Tylendal242]

Metalica is still great, but losing the ability to treat Rapid Fire as Assault on the Advance kind of hurts.

[@mintyaroma987]

A lot of weapons are changing type from Rapid Fire to Assault or Heavy - there probably aren't many Rapid Fire weapons left!

[@samj8421]

I CANT WAIT

[@Acorbet86]

Like space marine chapters but...kinda better.

[@0XFallen]

or worse, depending on which ones you choose lmao it's 50/50

[@AFanOfRice]

Thank god, a Mortal Wound cap on Wrath.

[@Daekeras]

cap for 6 per models, its.. a lot.

[@ThetaRho-]

For half the cost. It's way more flexible now, as more than just robots while get use out of the Strat, it's actually a buff

[@Randalf]

Krieg Players envy the GRAIA Dogma :D

[@jamesedwards8175]

My local Ad Mech player thinks that these are "nerfs across the board". He is a silly man...

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

If all but Mars lost canticles... he might have a point.

[@jamesedwards8175]

@@johnj.spurgin7037 I don't think they'll lose Canticles; I definitely agree with the point that it's probably just Cult models now. With that, I imagine it will be buffed or you'll be able to pick them in advance (like what Necrons do with protocols)

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

@@jamesedwards8175 I could see that maybe. I'd need to check what models in the army are cult mechanicus though to see how much of that is a nerf. BTW, do you think moral would be better if combat attrition started at 1-2 and went up to 1-3 at half strength?

[@malvatoss5840]

Feels like a good balance on the weaker forge worlds but an overall nerf to total faction strength.

[@baconace4122]

Makes sense that the Canticles aren't army-wide anymore and I hope you can pre-plan them like the Necron Protocols. Was weird to have such a meticulous and hard-wired army have random buffs each turn.

[@davestrong4487]

Oh noes... now I'm waiting for Lars Ulrich to sue GW for copyrighting the band name. 🤣

[@D00M3R-SK8]

He probably would as well.

[@SlocumJoe7740]

I mean, GW deserves it, they should know better with how often they love to sue

[@moojoos4496]

thats why its Metalica and not Metallica, GW know what theyre doing with trademarks.

[@flak1939]

Thanks to Auspex Tactics, I no longer have to read!

[@ratbaby3107]

Calling right now kadaphrons are going to be stupid this edition

[@Tom_Cruise_Missile]

Wow another op faction power creeping.. yay

[@G4LERNE]

tfw a bunch of toasters get auto-pass on combat attrition but DKoK don't

[@ThetaRho-]

The benefits of not being a weak meatbag

[@frsk6460]

for a second i thought we would get the forgworld units / tanks .... i read the title to fast and clicked to fast and now i am disapointed.

[@neoteraflare]

Why didn't GW made something similar for the SW Great Companies?

[@ThetaRho-]

Space Wolves are a marine subfaction. GW does not give rules to subfactions of subfactions.

[@neoteraflare]

@@ThetaRho- I remember there was already something similar in 7th edition.

[@thejesusaurus6573]

Is one of the forge world's for real called metallica? Come on!

[@mintyaroma987]

Yup, and it's where a lot of the in-lore fighting is happening right now with the Warzone: Charadon books!

[@thejesusaurus6573]

@@mintyaroma987 why.... WHY...

[@zaganim3813]

@@thejesusaurus6573 why NOT.

[@mikerbrenizer]

MARS: 6 MW cap/model in the unit. Not 6 MW/unit.

[@alphadeltaroflcopter]

If I lose my rad spam custom forgeworld and ryza bbq fun, ill officially have lost interest in this hobby.

[@matkilla454]

Looking like the codex creep is skipping admech rip.

[@zaganim3813]

lol as if they had problems. come back when your army has sucked for 10 years