BIG MISTAKE! UPGRADING TO STEEL BRAIDED BRAKE LINE & RACING BRAKE FLUID ON TVS APACHE RTR 200

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[@TheRex1024]

You videos are like a master teaching his student where he teaches them about the lessons learned from his failure which indeed proves an eye opener for the students and helps them learn and avoid the same mistakes.

[@thesportztourer]

Rahul, That was really motivating for me! I am overjoyed to have the love and support from riders like you 😊

[@anshusharma1523]

It is really good that you made the video of your failed attempt and that much poise. This will help many and also helps covering the important aspects of braking in a motorcycle !

[@shivangvashisht]

Today I was about to buy an NS200 tail tidy for my RTR 200 but this video came well in time and now I'll first check the measurements and then only invest. Your experience makes us wise. Thanks brother.

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[@rahulrulezz60]

Keep up the good work failures are next to success

[@thesportztourer]

Thanks Rahul for keeping the motivation high 😊

[@hariprasath3666]

What's the reason for showing JCB

[@PrafulMeena]

Your Content is Top Notch and High Quality, i can relate to your videos as i too have RTR 200.. :D Thanks for doing such hardwork for us..

[@ansarahman1292]

Do u have start up prob in ur rtr?

[@manuks123]

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[@thesportztourer]

Thank you so much for the wonderful words! I really feel blessed to have love and support from riders like you 😊

[@bisarga2000]

Thanks for the effort. we learn more from the mistakes rather than from edited highly planned videos. your video has some reality. 👍

[@shehzanrabbani1999]

One of the best presentation... crystal clear...... Hats off and failure is just the way of success... Keep up the good work. All the best

[@hiteshkumara2225]

I had tried the same experiment and had committed the same mistake as well. So I had to install the pulsar 220's brakelinr on my rear brake. It made the rear brake sharper in contrast the the front brake, so I had to invest in another longer brakeline for the front brake. I did find cheaper ones on banggood.com with choices based on different lengths. You get one there or like another person has suggested or as visible in the RTR 200 race spec bike, you can use the RR 310's brakeline. Hope you make a follow up video on this topic.

[@thesportztourer]

Thanks Hitesh for the suggestion, I will do a follow up video 😊

[@s1mpleenigma311]

I changed the rubber brake lines of my Thunderbird 350 to steel braided ones with DOT 4 STP Synthetic brake fluid and oh boy there is so much improvement in braking. Now there is much more bite and that bite gradually increases the more i press the lever unlike before. Bike stops faster and surprisingly there is less wheel locking now🤔 I ordered the brake lines from AliExpress for just ₹600 each !! and brake fluid from Amazon 👍🏻 I was also going to swap the master cylinder with the one in RE 650/535 but that will most likely blow the piston seals to pieces xD I may give it a try though but I'm satisfied for now

[@chinmaypanda023]

Although it was a failed attempt, but I think that many people will learn from this. I think that the Apache RR 310's steel braided brake lines will be a perfect fit for your RTR 200. Both Front & Rear brake lines. Although they are designed to handle the braking torque of a much powerful machine than the RTR 200 (over-designed for RTR 200), but it's always good to be on a safer side when it comes to braking.

[@thesportztourer]

Thanks Chinmay for the suggestion! will update here 😊

[@chinmaypanda023]

@@thesportztourer , cool 🤘🤘

[@chinmaypanda023]

@@thesportztourer , you can also go for Dominar 400's steel brake lines

[@infinityquest]

It will fit.... There are videos of apache 200 fitting steel braided

[@im_abhi27]

You can buy generic brake line or you can buy from Royal Enfield 350cc front steel braid line which is 84cm more than required length, I used this on my rtr 200 and it works great way much better braking...also I noticed even on full pressure applied on brake there is very low wheel locking as compared to stock brake line

[@suhaildafadar6525]

You're making some amazing videos brother. Keep it up!

[@touringclassmates]

Brother, i have changed it. It is working like charm.

[@hsnhere]

which one you used? the length of the new brake line?

[@kiranrajbhat9029]

Hi The Sportztourer, Can you please answer the below two questions. 1.What will be the length of the front and rear break lines for Apache 200? 2.Can I buy any generic break line form online sites? Please do provide me a reliable answer as there is no information available online.

[@shivpatil1315]

That was brilliant, try to take a look at Himalayan's brake liners, that might help too as they are also steel braided.

[@abdullabashir007]

Was about to say this , well will it suit R15 ?

[@shivpatil1315]

@@abdullabashir007 not sure

[@popcorntime7914]

Efforts never die bro...

[@thesportztourer]

So true! Thanks 😊

[@mohammadsherali]

My pulsar 220F has only front brake hose steel braided which was company fitted and now I install rear brake hose with steel braided. Braking performance increases. Steel hose some long but I fitted myself. I purchased its from KTM 200 old model motorcycle. Don't be sad brother try another.

[@bikerbuddymotovlogs]

Bro try to remove the calliper from the forks and. Then try to install the likes and re route it from the clamping. Let it be free from the wire loops as well. The brake lines will fit the length.. I installed it in my zma. Had the same issue i sorted it this way and did a custom clamping. Using cable ties and the stock clamp. Its been a year. I have no issues. Hope it will help you..

[@mdsiddi54]

I believe that we can install any ktm's or rr 310 steel braided break line as I was looking for similar solution. For now I have installed Yamaha Dot 4 break fluid as it is priced at 150rs which is very affordable and works like a charm!

[@thesportztourer]

Thanks for the suggestion and sharing your experience 😊

[@ThePrabin79]

I've tried pulsar 220. Steel braided line on my Apache 160 (older model) The braided line cable is enough for Apache 160 . And That's worked well too. Definitely braking pressure has increased or improve d.the braking sponginess has gone now. But installation process is little bit tricky. The rubber mount of pulsar was not matched with the Apache rubber plate. So I tied the braided line with cable tie..

[@ashagrwl11]

Whats the price of it bro

[@aliakbar9952]

I replaced my rubber brake lines with Hel performance steel braided lines on my rtr200 and they work super fine, the lever is as hard as a rock and the length is sufficient although they are not cheap and cost nearly 3600rs.

[@hsnhere]

is it front one? what is the length of the brake line?

[@aliakbar9952]

@@hsnhere Yes front. Did not measure the length. I think the lines were meant for karizma but it fit the apache just fine.

[@javedarshad28]

JCB at 0.26. That was purposeful hahahaha

[@thesportztourer]

Ha ha ha.. I was eagerly waiting for this comment!

[@DilipCS13]

Title should've been big mistake of choosing the wrong length hose. Could've measured length before buying the hose. I had Pulsar 220 hose on FZ and installed one for a friend's ZMA, but both were a bit shorter than stock, but fitted somehow, but when on centre stand, it looked scary as if gonna stretch and burst. Later swapped with generic longer ones from Amazon (but they are now insanely priced like HEL after lockdown). Like someone already mentioned, RS and Duke hoses are longer and for extra lenght, there is Continental GT hose.

[@harinarayanan6709]

thank you for this info bro as a lot of people including me are looking forward to a brake line upgrade. keep up with ur great contents bro. Also can u please share the exact length of steel braided line of pulsar220 that u tried?

[@rohitmier]

Did you get any steel braded brake line for Apache 200 as i am waiting for last 6 months now...😬

I think that rubber hose has a braided steel inner tube inside or is double walled, nonetheless brake lines are one of the most heavily safety regulated and governed component on vehicles. Rubber brake hoses must stand up to 8,000 burst psi for 1-2 minutes before bursting and you achieve a few hundred to 1100 psi in daily traffic. In reality burst braking only lasts a second or two. I work with hydraulic cylinders and all rubber hoses have a braided inner core or are double walled. changing to braided steel probably wouldn't have done anything. the reason why it's for racing is because constantly braking in super bikes is extremely abusive. Thick steel lines can take up to 18,000 psi burst but race level superbikes have massive brakes, rotors and calipers pistons and go 250kph like nothing in seconds so they need those critical components. For a regular bike like ours I would just upgrade the fluid when it's time to change it.

[@thesportztourer]

Thank you so much for sharing this piece of information here. It's a joy to have enthusiasts like you on the channel 😊

[@krishhvlogs5]

Can you make a video on installation of rear hand brake without additional caliper?

[@smartbikers4550]

I use Motul racing break fluid....and 3rd party steel hose.....use😉

[@Baby-op4oh]

What i felt riding rtr for 1 year is front vreak response is superior but back break kicks in like slow really slow (bajaj 160ccc-200cc segment has better breaks).

[@thecodefather123]

RTR's front brake is 2 piston , we just need 4 piston brake caliper like in KTM series.

[@RefinementandPower]

in mu activa125 three pistons check on mu channel

[@tridip.chakraborty]

No we can't as it's a standard telescopic fork whereas KTM has upside-down forks with radial caliper

[@bhaviktamore5015]

bro explain to ek no krte ho....oil nikalne ki liye extra peip use kro usse disc bhi clain rahega

[@kedarhatkar]

Another great video, this time though I have a suggestion to make.. it would be really great if you mention on what parameters you compared the performance.. example braking time was better than before or feel of breaking was smoother.. also since it has started raining would love to see videos on maintenance during monsoon.. the RTR fuel opening has some space that is filled with water and drops into the tank while you open it for refueling..any tips? Thank you in advance.. cheers 🍻

[@kedarhatkar]

I think you missed this comment hence adding one more to get your attention

[@thesportztourer]

Thanks a lot Kedar for the suggestions! I personally never faced water in the fuel tank issue with my 180 and 200. I can try to make a video on what we can do when there is water in the system 😊

[@kedarhatkar]

@@thesportztourer Awesome thank you very much 👍

[@autumnindia]

Can you please make a detailed video on how to tune engine perfectly. It's must needed. Thank you 😊

[@anilsj1607]

Get the steel cable from Amazon (90cm F) (80cm R)which sits perfectly on your bike and also it's very cheap, I been enjoying breaking flawlessly.

[@jithinramesh3022]

Hi bro Do you mean to say that these lines will fit the RTR 200 (have you or your friends tried it out?). Also, did you do anything for the master cylinder?

[@anilsj1607]

@@jithinramesh3022 hi I had installed it on my bike, it's a direct fit... Just get the exact length cable. I have both steel cables on my bike and it's phenomenal.

[@saidesai6284]

hey how is the performance of this break line in long term i am have doubt bcz this amazon ones are generic

[@anilsj1607]

@@saidesai6284 I have the same one, go for it. They work fine and excellent.

[@vaisheshikgautam5167]

Pls make video on changing steel braided cable in rtr 180 abs With stating the problems with changing the cable

[@kediiam2025]

Steel Braided Wires + Radial Brake lever = Is it possible? Worth it?

[@sushovangayen]

I also thought for changing the front brake lines of my apache 200..As apache 200 have steel brake line for rear brake but i need to change the front brake line.....but i don't have any knowledge of which steel braided brake line i will use..!! So this was informative for me.. Maybe Duke 125,200 Pulsar RS or Dominar..? Let me know sir if you find the proper one..

[@tjagadeesh1132]

Try motul synthetic brake oil. It's 200% better than any brake oil in the market. I have tried it my Apache RTR 180 and Unicorn 150. Huge huge difference. You must shell out 700₹ for 500ml can...

[@salimadnan2777]

I’ve done this upgrade 2 years ago my bike has braided brake line I use hell brake lines

[@jattrahul8589]

Bro hows it perform

[@luhaarunk3085]

Here is my story: I hated the brake lever feedback. And the long stopping distance. My 2003 Fiero F2 front brakes are much more predictable due to the feedback I get on the brake lever. So like you, I decided to get steel braided brake hose for my RTR 200. Search for P220 brake hose began.....and ended after 3 days due to lack of time in exploring local market (service centres close by the time I leave office) and by the discovery that P220 brake hose is shorter. Obviously none of the ABS brake hose will ever fit. RR310/Duke 390/Dominar brake hose idea out of the window. But...Duke 200 😈😈😈 Went to KTM service. Joy was short-lived since the brake hose has a steel tube/pipe hidden below the lower suspension clamp from where the hose crosses over to the left side since the disc on Duke 200 is on the left. Disappointed again (and here I escaped early from office to visit KTM service centre). Finally found steel braided brake hose on Amazon with different length sizes. 50, 60, 90 & 120cm. Had to go for 90 cms. Better long than short, right? Replaced my RTR's brake hose. Used TVS DOT4 brake fluid. Did bleeding removing every possible air presence. Bled again after 2 days. Little more air bubbles escaped. Conclusion: Front brake feels much better now. Satisfaction level: Zero. Zilch. Nada. I still press the front brake lever of every Apache I see in the service centre. God knows what TVS did in RTR200, but the brakes suck. While my front brake now feels much better than other RTR200s, the lever is still spongier than RTR180. Super lever feel on that bike on all old version Apaches. On RTR200 4V, it simply isn't satisfying/assuring. Sometimes I feel like installing RTR180 brake parts on my bike. Bottom line: The effort wasn't worth it. And maybe, the hose I bought from Amazon isn't good quality. But review from other users for that hose was good. Just don't understand why TVS made such poor brakes for the RTR 200 4V. If you ever find a solution or a good quality steel braided brake hose, do share with us on KZbin. Thank you for sharing this video with us.

[@thekattepuranik]

Good content man. But isnt the fade in brakes due to excessive usage and heating up of the brake disc and pads? Correct me if I'm wrong. Also another question. Why dint u consider sintered pads instead?

[@Mototune16]

You need RR 310 ka brake line.

[@thesportztourer]

Thanks for the info! Cost?

[@Mototune16]

@@thesportztourer will get back

[@ShinigamiDa]

You can try using duke 200 brake line.

[@abhishekdas94]

Please do a review for Liquimoly oil for Dominar or similar bike. The performance pack from Liquimoly will be even better. Thank You.

[@BijoyDas-qj6po]

Plz make a another video in this topic

[@naveedaka]

Bro..I guess you could have changed the brake line route ...and how about dominar 400 non abs brake line...I guess it will serve the purpose

[@prashantkanojia3534]

Do we get steel breaded brake lines in NS 200 OR can we put that on ns200 from pulsar..please tell i will b waiting....also I would like to know that how to install USD on NS 200

[@dhirendrakumar2300]

In my case an after market steel braded pipe for my apache 160 2v was 20cm longer than the stock. also banjo hose head orientation was same on both side therefore i had to twist pipe for fitting.

[@AshwinYuvraj19]

Can you share the exact length of Pulsar 220s brake hose?I am planning to get these on Suzuki Gixxer

[@saidesai6284]

after a lots and lots of research on internt i found out that u can fit RE continental gt 535 brake line which are exactly same size as of apache 83cm or 33inch

[@thesportztourer]

Wow! Thanks a lot Sai for sharing this here. A heart felt thanks to you 😊 Have you installed it?

[@saidesai6284]

@@thesportztourer actualy i tired to search for it in market but since its old bike that too flop model i was not able to find it in chennai

[@saidesai6284]

@@thesportztourer hey today again after searching i found royal enfield genuin part it cost 3300 i think its not worth the price so i am using some generic once which cost only 750

[@thesportztourer]

Yes, you are right 3300 for steel braided lines does not seems to be value for money. Is it Brembo branded?

[@saidesai6284]

@@thesportztourerit was RE genuine part

[@AKumar-jn9sz]

how i can upgrade my bs6 apache rtr 200 to newly launch bs6 apache rtr 200 is this new rtr 200 4v having 3 modes of ride make any change in riding and adjustable lever make sense in long rides

[@d0wn7uned87]

You can go for the Pulsar RS 200 or Dominar brake lines. They're longer. Should fit the Apache 200.

[@thesportztourer]

Thanks for the suggestion! Will update here 😊

[@d0wn7uned87]

@@thesportztourer I should be thanking you instead! Your videos are so helpful & informative. I'm glad I could help out! :)

[@D91949]

I have installed steel braided pipes on my rtr 180 on front and the rare And mine is working like a charm I used a p220 pipe and another one is an local brand But quality is good u can use the dukes brake lines bcz those lines r too long ...

[@saimona.8498]

Bro, what's the price of p220's brake lines? And how about performance and installation process? Could u pls throw light on that?

[@D91949]

@@saimona.8498 its bit costly and cost around 1k the performance is good as of now There r lots of videos on KZbin about changing brake lines u can refer to them...or u can follow the steps of this video.. all r same..

[@thesportztourer]

Thanks Debasish for the suggestion and sharing your experience 😊

[@D91949]

@@thesportztourer ur always welcome bro... 😎❤️

[@saimona.8498]

@@D91949 Thanks a lot for ur valuable response, Debasish.

[@ankitkumardash3255]

Don't we need to upgrade to better brake assembly ? Like brake pads or master cylinder ?

[@tjxplorer3153]

Hi bro, nice video ... I am looking for a longer brake line cabke for my Dominar400. I have installed 2 inch raisers and also changed the clutch cable from thunderbird.

[@anushibinj]

Informative video as always 🤗

[@thesportztourer]

Thanks for always appreciating the content!

[@anushibinj]

@@thesportztourer 😁

[@shantanuyadav6135]

Is it possible to upgrade the calipers of the rtr, i know it's possible that no other caliper available in market might not match, but considering a possibility there is one is it possible?

[@ansarahman1292]

Liked ur dedication 👍

[@theurbanbundelkhandi7460]

What abt instructions given on brakes use only dot3 or 4 brake oil, may I do the same with my pulsar 150

[@typhoys]

Maybe changing the brake pads to high performance brake pads might make a difference.

[@thesportztourer]

How about a dedicated video on that?

[@typhoys]

@@thesportztourer waiting for it 🤩🤩🤩

[@sortstroke9632]

Thanks bro u saved my money .

[@ritanbarman]

Awesome video bro.👌

[@darshan8256]

How to change rubber to steel braided line in Apache 200 av 8n abs model (front break)

[@police9615]

Hey @the_sportztourer Did u upgrade it? What abt Follow up video?

[@MrUttammaru]

No other brand for RTR 200? There is no way to install steel braided brake line?

[@parkarninad02]

Will it make any difference in braking power of Dominar. Rear brakes more preferably?

[@udaykiran-cg3pi]

Sir pulsar RS 200 break lines are longer they are steel plated equal to RTR break line and change break pads to HH rated

[@godemon_with_jls6948]

Bro, use RS200 or Dominar 400 or RR310 brake lines. They must be longer in length

[@thesportztourer]

Thanks Rogit for the suggestion, will make a follow up video once I get hold of a proper line.

[@godemon_with_jls6948]

The Sportztourer nice bro. Keep going. God bless you.

[@godemon_with_jls6948]

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[@VishalJoshi-sk8ll]

Koi baat nahi Bandhuraj, try RR310, interceptor or some other of same length...

[@nandakiran2707]

bro plz make a video.how to install abs in non abs variant of apache rtr200.

[@abdullabashir007]

Can I use 220 Steel breeded lines in R15 ??

[@kiranrajbhat9029]

I ordered 90cm breaded line, but received 100cm line instead. Can I use it? Will it cause me problem?

[@gangstergamingpubgmobile4653]

try using royal enfield steelbraided pipe

[@pranithachopra3392]

How about changing dis calipers and pads from stock to branded ones

[@ParthRastogi]

After I've used brembo brakes on continental gt 535, I find every other bike to have very mushy brakes.

[@soumyachatterjee9367]

Try mojo's hose or many other bikes are out there ...

[@sharathdas8909]

Bro which oil is best for engine for better performance

[@AmitKumar-yt9qg]

Can we use Dominar's steel braided break lines?

[@akshaykanojiya8597]

Can I use that braided cable in pulsar 150 normal one.

[@im_abhi27]

How about generic steel braded brake line available on amazon as I was also planned to replace it with steel braded line on my rtr 200 4v but wasn't sure of quality of that brake lines can you review it.....please

[@WingsofOil]

I was looking for steel brake lines for my bike and I came across RCB brake lines but idea how do they proform.

[@lalitarya5100]

I have pulsar NS200 Abs(single channel). So can i fit it steel braided brake line directly or will there br any complications??

[@thesportztourer]

Hi Lalit, You have to keep the ABS module in consideration for that 😊

[@lalitarya5100]

@@thesportztourer Yes ofcourse. Then i think i have to leave it to an expert mechanic instead of experimenting by myself. Thanks for this informative video... ❤❤

[@manansaxena21]

Also use ceramic brake pads

[@emptyMT839]

No, sintered is much better.

[@AkeelTaj]

Hi there! I've been a subscriber since the day I booked my RTR 200 last year in April. I love your content and it helps me be nice to my RTR 200. I sometimes feel the need to ask questions to be able to keep my RTR 200 in the best state. It'd be great if I had some means to contact you personally over email or messaging. Expecting a response soon. Thank you

[@kitwalker2103]

I have had a bad experience with Bajaj spares in the past... Would not recommend them.

[@vinayraj6656]

Hai bro u make a nice and information videos I request you to give us a information tat can we upgrade slipper clutch on ns200 hoping for you responce

[@ravikumarrao8683]

Good attempt.. though .. thanks for heads-up .. cheers

[@thesportztourer]

Most welcome 😊

[@rishabhchawla]

You should have gone for pulser rs 200 brake line

[@abinashpandia2860]

Rtr abs version have the steel brake line try that 😃

[@interstellarguy]

What about Duke 200/250 line?

[@SauravKumar-ny2fe]

How much cost u paid for 220f brake line frnd?

[@thesportztourer]

Hi Saurav, It was purchased online. You will find all the details here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJy2kKaEgZuam7s

[@SauravKumar-ny2fe]

@@thesportztourer thx buddy

[@mohitthakur7294]

What about the ABS Apache RTR200

[@ahmadzeeshan43]

If you don't connect the ruberline or the original one under the headlight it reaches. I've seen someone doing that already.

[@thesportztourer]

Hi Zeeshan, Unfortunately it even failed to work that way. My bad, I should have mentioned it in the video.

[@ahmadzeeshan43]

@@thesportztourer kzbin.info/www/bejne/goikqKRug5p5jas You might save 1100, However Doesn't look safe to me.

[@princerehman1129]

use it on th rear brakes..

[@alvinphilip5940]

Try Dominar or RR 310 lines.