BIG News On Space Engineers Future! - 11th Anniversary Stream News

[@LightDragonSlayer]

Oh Lord, with this new grid System, Shipbuilds are gonna be INSANE! the possebilites of details are through the roof!

[@YoStu242]

Hopefully same doesn't happen to ping on server

[@TheEpicRacer01]

The skill gap will widen quite a bit too.

[@maximumtrash3650]

this was a dream for years

[@jh5kl]

but we need more detail than 25 cm blocks, that's not detailed at all, unified grid is a massive improvement but the blocks are still to big

[@madmo1692]

I was imagining the same thing a year ago but I never thought they could make so many size blocks interact so well! I am completely impressed

[@kinngrimm]

I assume VRAGE 3 will not be implemented into SE, but then be foundation for SE 2.

[@jacksonbarkerthebluehairedfox]

I at least hope the graphical changes are implemented

[@MrQuantumInc]

Definitely true if they are planning on doing SE 2. It wouldn't be impossible to put VRAGE 3 into SE1, but the engine is the foundation, so you have to tweak or even re-do everything else in the game if you want to change the engine; at that point you might as well make a new game. From a business view you have to give players a reason to buy the new game, from a developer it makes sense to prioritize and be efficient with finite resources.

[@kitsunekaze93]

@@MrQuantumInc it would be impossible to put VRAGE 3 into SE1. At least without invalidating ALL old blueprints, maps, scenarios and mods

[@demukazz]

@@kitsunekaze93 everything's possible : 7daystodie changed their engine like 3 times, starcitizen again - 3 times. So everything's possible

[@AquariusGhostHunter]

@@demukazz except those games are coded differently than space engineers

[@pr0hobo]

Im pretty sure they are going to announce se2. They added most of their most wanted features like pve and exploration and endgame content in the most recent update, so i feel like the future for se1 is mostly closed like how he mentioned in the stream. Plus we are seeing more and more vrage 3 content that isn’t just engine tests, stuff like the asteroids could be handwaved away as just a test of voxel technology (like the crash tests with voxel deformation) but the new unified grid and the way they talked about the blueprinting makes me think these are real features not just engine tests. I am lead to believe that se2 is a real possibility for and upcoming announcement, likely to release a fair bit out and perhaps with very few of the new features on launch (like water), and so there will still be time for more se1 content but ramping down to maybe just a most wanted 2 update.

[@tamtenjakub]

It is coming. Rosa has said in one interview with a czech youtuber, that SE2 is coming. That was actually a few years back, so I hope that im not just making stuff up, but I am pretty sure about this.

[@Leffrey]

I would genuinely be surprised if they didn't come out with SE2 at some point down the line. All of the showcases they have done for VRage3 have used the space engineers style and they are clearly making many space related assets. Lotta work if there's no end goal behind it... They're not oblivious enough to not realise that SE2 on VRage 3 would be a smash hit. Even if they release something else in VRage3 in the meantime to stress test the engine, SE2 is for sure on the roadmap.

[@SmooreMC85]

100% agree. And I think it's time to turn the page on SE1. Now I'm curious if they'll be doing early access again. Maybe that is what they announce later in the year...

[@kahwigulum]

hard disagree i dont think there will ever be a SE2 I think they will continue to push SE forward given that they showed old SE and the progression from then to now I think the tease is that they are pushing VRAGE3 into regular SE, not releasing a new game that they'd then have to support on top of the old SE.

[@pr0hobo]

@@kahwigulum personally i think this would be really cool to see, but there are two reasons i think it wouldn’t happen that way. Number one is the programing dificulty, its way harder to push a new engine on an old game (and fix the countless bugs and massive troubles with humongous file sizes being changed by the update) than to push an old game on a new engine and just upgrade a few things for a rerelease/2nd game. The second reason is money, se 1 has run a long way on dlc money and the hopes and dreams of making new sales, but at this point most people who would buy the game have appart from a few stragglers. They had to increase the price of dlcs a while back because it wasn’t enough, like they said its a big studio, and even if they made a vrage 3 update as a dlc they would get way more sales if they instead release it as a new game plus they can release it sooner in early access rather than wait longer to back port it on the old game for less sales. Id love to be proven wrong tho so i could save some money and maybe even my blueprints

[@ConflictZ0NE]

Scalable blocks was on the wish list

[@TheDovensian]

AGREED!! it’s gonna be an amazing change

[@CrispyMuffin2]

It sounds like an amazing feature, but i do wonder how it'll work in survival, like if you have to weld the individual 25cm blocks, or if its the chunks you place them in Or they turn them into "custom" 50cm blocks that then are welded together The building style seems very Similar to Avorion, which is also an amazing game, so yea im definitively interested in how this will work :>

[@gorgofdoom]

Sorry if its pedantry but I don't see scalable blocks. that would mean we could change the size of anything, including the light sources. It does seem that the textures are procedurally made, making hull look like one scalable block. A unified grid system is a great step in the right direction & I'm really glad to see that the armor edges are gone :D

[@RusAmethyst]

SE 2 gonna be liiit!!!

[@ascottishgamerx9728]

been playing since i was 12, I hope this game never dies!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Erik_Ice_Fang]

When I listened to Marek say the thing about "closed circuit", I think that was specifically aimed at the series of updates ending in Contact

[@Krisfallion]

I hope they re-vamp the network code and sim speed to allow for 30+ players with multiple grids smashing in to each other at once.

[@kahwigulum]

*and add linux-native binaries. if they can support garbage consoles like xbox and playstation, they might as well support all the things including linux and mac.

[@MrQuantumInc]

Hopefully, they learned that lesson the hard way earlier with the current Space Engineers. Network code is easier if you prioritize it from the beginning. Sim speed...you can optimize the code but only to a limited degree, at a certain point the only solution is a better computer.

[@MrQuantumInc]

@@kahwigulum I heard that Apple makes developers go through a lot of hoops to make their app/game work on Apple products, including paying a monthly fee and buying specialized machines.

[@thoughtlesskills]

I seriously hope they actually started vrage3 from scratch and didn't recycle old code like they did with SE1.

[@HalIOfFamer]

​@@kahwigulumthe potential playerbase doesn't justify it. If it did some linux genius would already bend linux to run the game like they do with other, larger games.

[@Official_Dominatus]

All I want is more stability on servers and more players. Having player driven server economies would be so much better than AI/NPC grids that feel like ghost ships/stations.

[@shahbazfawbush]

Concur

[@caseyb75801]

I've been on the game since early access it's amazing to see how far it has come and I hope it continues to improve!!! Also I have been watching tour content for a few years man you do an amazing job with all your builds

[@Mr402TA]

Its good to see a stream covering build functionality. We'd already covered block destruction, water physics, terrain maps and texturing. I really wanted to know about building.

[@GEA_RuthlessKillaz35]

Okay the unified block system has peaked my interest. 👀

[@SteveStevens-z3z]

Piqued *

[@Itar-eg7bs]

The anniversary live stream was about what I expected. I didn't think they'd make any major announcements so soon after the Contact update release. I'm excited about the possibilities that the VRAGE3 engine will offer Space Engineers (or SE2). The builds will be fantastic.

[@lord_kinbote3920]

The new grid system is going to massively cut down on the number of structural/deco blocks needed in the game. A lot of the stuff like corridors, beams, etc. will be things that you can just build yourself. The build menu should be much easier to navigate.

[@TheRGLDragneelArchives]

As a Xbox player it is sad that this update is not available, but as long as it get released soon I’ll be happy

[@davidstephens4763]

Yeah disappointing, was looking forward to it 😮

[@TheRGLDragneelArchives]

@@davidstephens4763 I’ve uninstalled the game until the update is out so I can go play call of duty black ops 6 on launch day

[@princesidon6606]

I think armor layering and complexity is gonna get so much more fun

[@Танкозера]

@@princesidon6606 composite gyroscope armour yeeeeeeey

[@ZarHakkar]

Very excited, but they're just scratching the surface of the potential they could develop. The next step beyond the unified grid is a universal composite grid system that allows you to build on/carve out sloped and curved blocks.

[@tackytrooper]

I don't even want to think about the learning curve on something like that. I already have a hard time getting people interested in SE as it is. Most smoothbrain normies already can't comprehend this game.

[@herbinhorizons]

Super-multi-grid are insane. These are endless possibilities for construction

[@DevinKrishna-n3i]

so far, in space engineers there isnt much room for genuine engineering, like in certain minecraft mods and such. But ik its an unfair comparison, but i hope keen adds something to do with like genuine engineering, maybe like aerodynamic physics, i know theres gonna be water and water physics. But yeah, hopefully keen adds something that'll give it more "engineering"

[@mikewhitaker2880]

used to play Medieval Engineers too, kinda a shame they stopped development on it, though some third party work is being done to maintain at least.... what i would like to see is a bit more of a combining between ME and SE.. in short it would mean a revamp of the planets portion that follows closer to ME, all still allowing the SE part to work as one could go from planet to planet... i think the biggest part would be a system of structural integrity added to SE, mostly for planets of course, but an SI system could affect some ship builds too...

[@giantdutchviking]

Can you explain what Medieval Engineers is? I'm a new SE player, never seen it being showcased.

[@mikewhitaker2880]

it's a medieval game made by Keen which is a sandbox builder game... you basically chopped trees and mined rocks and ores to build stuff.. much in the same way as we mine rocks and ores in SE to build bases and ships..Keen stopped working on ME to focus more on SE..

[@dakaodo]

Scalable blocks was a huge item on my wishlist. Building on that, it would be great if this future hypothetical SE 2/whatever game could streamline the block selection for curves somehow. I for one dread the thought of having to manually pick sloped blocks across that 25 cm grid. It would be really handy to have a construction tool that can mark curves, like a spline tool, then the game auto-assigns blocks that best fit the curve. Bit of a moon shot, but I wonder/hope some clever person will figure out if it's possible to convert SE blueprints into the future SE 2 / VRAGE3 / whatever game. By default I assume not, but maybe someone will come up with a "block replacer" script (like the conveyor and armor mods/scripts that Whiplash and Klime have created for SE) that swaps out every SE block for an equivalent SE 2 block. There are 300,000+ BPs on the workshop, representing a decade of creations and hundreds of thousands of hours of work by the community. It'd be nice to be able to bring them forward with us into SE 2, though with the community's size and creativity now, I'm sure we have yet to see many more really amazing designs.

[@jh5kl]

building spaceships completely free form like one uses voxelhands to make asteroids would be fantastic, but we need at least smaller than 25 cm blocks for proper detail, 25 cm is too large

[@dakaodo]

​@@jh5kl 25 cm is already higher-precision than SE currently. At this stage, VRAGE3 is still block-based, not freeform sculpting. So we have to work with what we have. Just think of it like any other low-fidelity pixel art or ASCII art. Instead of picking colors of pixels or ASCII characters, a construction aid tool could best-fit 1-to-1 or 2-to-1 slopes, corners, etc. Draw a circle, or an ellipse with major and minor axis, and the tool fits available blocks to the curve. I've mentioned in other comments that some kind of dynamic block-sizing would be more streamlined than using the current cumbersome block selection of slopes, corners, transitions, mirrored, inverted, etc. Heck, just like current SE small grid light armor blocks, each block could be functionally identical, but visually they'd smooth out an infinite range of slopes according to their nearest neighbor blocks or player-marked spline nodes. But that's well beyond the construction paradigm KSH is basing SE on.

[@stevenpharr7717]

The scaled blocks remind me of Starship EVO I love that system in that game and look forward to it in SE2

[@neo2264]

Absolutely, I was going to comment this also. Starship EVO has a unified grid system as well and that's one of the game's strongest selling points. Combine that with the other things we love about Space Engineers and we might see an explosion of game value in SE2. The only thing I'm apprehensive about is if SE2 leaves behind a lot of the content that SE developed over the years - especially all that block variety.

[@Peekofwar]

I would absolutely love to have the unified grid system in SE. Being able to build smaller bases on voxels instead of using massive 2.5 cubit metre blocks; have realistically thinner walls. I mean, on a war ship, yeah, having a bunch of material between you and the bullets flying around is good, but for non-combat stuff, you could save on some weight and space.

[@TheMhalpern]

with the closed circle, now players have an actual goal (prototech) to work towards and risk for

[@robinandersson99]

Been wanting this unified grid system for so long, it will make you be able to build insanely cool things a lot easier than in the current game

[@jh5kl]

very true, but 25cm blocks is still just too large

[@kitsunekaze93]

@@jh5kl "too large" do you just want an actual modeling program in the game? im sure they will add block scaling to slopes and such like in Avorion.

[@andrewfinlayson4416]

Ok this is the first time seeing the new vrage stuff and I have to say I'm excited for what else is to come. It looks real nice right now and it's not even finished yet. 😊

[@WiseOakDakota]

The grid system looks great, but yeah we got an announcement for an announcement… why does a great company doing a great job need to do that

[@johnfink9020]

Bc its Keen. They can't even get updates out on time.

[@WiseOakDakota]

@@johnfink9020 you mean Xbox takes forever to certify games. A hugely well known problem in their relationship with all developers, not Keen

[@johnfink9020]

@WiseOakDakota when Keen releases an update THE SAME DAY for all consoles, knowing of Microsofts cert process, they knew it'd be held back. Simply release it for cert a week prior to official release. Problem solved. And on top of that, not even the slightest mention of a refund in their recent announcement for people who paid thinking they'd have it. Oops, sorry, you can't until the update is finished, ya know....even though we got ya money. Pretty scummy move. And if you're on PC or PS then go enjoy it and let people give their displeasure. It's our right as a paying consumer.

[@mykeh3155]

@@johnfink9020 You don't think they already send it off early? They aren't stupid, everyone who has worked with or actually follows console development knows how terrible the certification process is and how long it can take. You can get denied last second, be denied for something irrelevant, be approved when there are glaring issues, wait weeks/months for a response, the whole process sucks. Ignoring that, they have to commit to a date, if Microsoft or Sony decide to pull out at a bad time, tough, it's hard to push back an update you are already in the process of rolling out. It's not as simple as pressing pause, servers take time to update, distribution takes a while, who knows what their development process looks like but that could be heavily affected too. They do not owe you a refund, Microsoft might IF the Microsoft store page was advertising the update, but Keen don't owe you anything as they aren't the seller, Microsoft is. Even if they were advertising it, you would have had to purchase the game after the store page was updated, not before, otherwise they are under no obligation to refund you for that. I'm not sure exactly how the Microsoft store works, but I find it hard to believe you could buy something that isn't out unless it was specifically stated to be a preorder, so the DLC is also out of the question. Yes it sucks, but point your frustration at the system, not at people which you have no understanding of what their job entails or what exactly they have done. It might be your right as a paying customer, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable to rage at people who aren't likely to be responsible.

[@davidpodeszwa7010]

@@johnfink9020 they know about the cert process, its not their first update. Even playstation has the certification process. the xbox process is simply just baaad and slow and unreliable... blame microsoft, not keen

[@Perriax]

Going by how they talked about the contact update making the gameloop complete, the big update before the end of the year will likely be SE2 or new game using vrage3. Since the first game now complete according to Keen. Just my take/assumptions.

[@Peekofwar]

I also haven't played Medieval Engineers in years, and I wish they released the OST like they did with SE because it had a nice OST if I remember correctly. It was fun to mess with the physics in that game even if the computer I had at the time could barely run these games.

[@Reoh0z]

> "[VRAGE3] Any sized block on the same grid." The feature I've always wanted.

[@derpsterPRO]

The news before end of the year is going to be space engeneers 2 for sure! This tech in the v-rage 3 engine looks so cool! The number of times it frustrates me that i want cant place a block in the middle of a block because of limitations makes me excited for this tech! Though this will be in SE 2 for sure, but im all in for a SE 2!

[@PrimordialNightmare]

One thing I'd like to have for space enigneers: a folder/data tree structure for blueprints and GPS coordinates. it gets a bit tedious if you keep amassing stuff.

[@DonnaPinciot]

It seems likely that they're going for a 'Space Engineers 2', though perhaps not by that title. Maybe more along the lines of 'Solar Engineers', 'Galactic Engineers', or 'Cosmic/Cosmos Engineers'. The features in VRAGE3 that they've shown off have been planets, liquid water, the classic grid system improved, asteroids, really cool rendering, and loads of SE assets which, though they could be placeholder, help say 'Yeah, this is going to be the successor to Space Engineers'. I don't know if they're ready to announce anything yet, but what they've got so far is actually somewhat comparable to the first demos of Space Engineers, if not a bit more: Building, destruction, physics, vehicles, asteroids... and that's about it for what was in the original Space Engineers. Except they've also got _vastly_ improved rendering, planets, and fluid simulations. The same thing happened with Medieval Engineers, where they released an early-access 'proof-of-concept' creative-only sandbox to play around with while they made the game proper, so it's nowhere near a stretch to think they'll do it again.

[@Reoh0z]

Yes I played Medieval Engineers, but haven't again since it first dropped in Early Access.

[@CalvaryGaming6092]

Hello captain jack I wanted to say how happy I am for you and your channel, keep up the good work man I love yalls series videos

[@CaptainJack]

Thanks! Will do!

[@chrissbeausoleil2766]

FINALLY! Drag to place... *weeps in joy*

[@NekkyoPlays]

Finally, letting us place blocks more freely, like all the other games that have base building. I know SE is older than a lot of them, but it's been driving me nuts. When I first started playing, it took me a minute to realize why I couldn't place something on the sloped side of a block.

[@Doctorstew]

This is a big video. That’s a huge new tool! I can’t wait for that game!

[@GCTWorks]

I am excited for the new block system. That will be SOOOO much more flexible.

[@levelynn3853]

Damn that's a quick video, I feel like I just saw you on the stream chat earlier

[@Vahari_Bahamut]

I doubt they will stop reasonably major updates till VRage 3 is out with a game. They need the updates to promote the accompanying DLC and make money. I can see more fine tuning type updates. Contact had a lot of fine tuning. Maybe stuff like selling grids, projector to assembler functions, etc.

[@altzan2602]

Unified Ship builds... Oh yeah, it's all coming together

[@TheWergySki2]

I feel like the big news coming later this year could be the release of "Contact" on Xbox

[@johnfink9020]

No kidding

[@robinchwan]

that means you can also add small grid hydrogen tanks etc in large grid as well, that would allow alot more decoration options

[@fredpryde8555]

that new grid system looks awesome we should of had that ages ago it will make building so much more interesting love the latest DLC

[@grundxgames]

Why tho, i am already not finishing a single build...

[@dstyd]

Being able to use small blocks with large blocks is a plus. It's a pain when you need to do stuff with both but you can't. The Textures is also a plus. No more bad looking asteroids. I would like it if I could have some small grid cockpits on large grid. Like the fighter get one. Also having it so I can build on angled blocks would be a good thing. Being hindered in designing ships by this is a pain. Longer distance of both the small grid and large grid ore detectors is needed. Their distance is to short. Small could be moved to 100m and large grid could be moved to 200-1000m. Having a device that better detects and displays the ore would be interesting. Like a hologram. Once you find the ore you use that device and it maps out the ore and what it is. While the ore detector only lets you know ore is nearby.

[@nickzomer4215]

Look so much nicer for building. Closer to a starmade level of simple flexibility.

[@Death_metal_syndrome]

Still waiting on the xbox contact update.

[@darthtempest4722]

Same

[@johnfink9020]

Keen screwed the pooch on this one. Should e released the update to MS a week prior to official release.

[@W4RD3NS_CREED]

this all looks awesome. my rig is already crying.

[@Species3472]

We need VR support, damit!.... ^^

[@keitho6974]

Having just bought starship evo recently the new vrage system reminds me alot of the building system in evo which is really exciting to see.

[@yuustrand_6935]

i think i was expecting more updates or things will come in the future but it's fine, i really like to see the grid building update

[@aikiwolfie]

I highly doubt Keen are done with SE. They've already told us to expect more updates as well as basically allowing the community to think SE is getting VRAGE 3.

[@shanepye7078]

I hope the new space engineers will include larger hanger doors and connectors that you can walk through for docking.

[@allanwidner9276]

I play Medieval Engineers Community Edition, as well.

[@TheMrShinagami]

I have medieval engineers but like you I haven't played it on a long time.

[@joshuaconner5887]

My main hope for Vrage 3 is the usage of all of my CPU. I love massive ships and space battles, but it's pretty much unplayable in SE because the sim speed tanks.

[@orangePhantom-vz9eo]

hopefully, by the 15th anniversary, we will have news about space engineer 2

[@commanderfreakkz5688]

I hope that we can place turrets on curve shape

[@SqaurebearSqaurebear]

I put like 350 hours into medieval engineers it had such great potential

[@kahwigulum]

when they showed the old engine and talked about that, then teased a big announcement on the 18th, I feel like the big announcement will be something like vrage3 being ported into this version of SE to highlight the "from then to now" timeline they were talking about in this update. their new games will be AI focused. I feel the VRAGE3 engine will remain in SE. I can't see them putting out a SE2 given how much dev time and resources they've put into SE. If youve ever worked in software, you know you'd have to continue to support the product even after new stuff comes out. it'd be easier to just replace the old SE with the VRAGE3 version of SE and not have to support an old SE game as well as a new SE2 game. Look at Medieval Engineers, for example. They don't have the bandwidth to support all these games, and SE is paying everyone's mortgage right now, so they might as well keep that going.

[@shahbazfawbush]

Marek mentioned that they have made a blueprint exporter for vrage 2 to vrage 3!

[@tommymartin364]

The chisel and bits players on minecraft are going to have a field day with this one. I know it's not coming TO space engineers 1 but still

[@lordartorious]

New grid system looks amazing. I hope their offline LAN multiplayer is better. I dont have much hope for it tho. Nobody makes offline LAN games anymore. Too few like myself that have terrible internet. Not throwing shade, just lamenting. Looking forward to whatever is next.

[@tonyb.8985]

OHMAMA, Hope being reality soon.

[@vampyerion6804]

Finally, medium grid

[@Coolguy-wl9ng]

What about the Xbox update. When is that coming out?

[@johnfink9020]

Who tf knows at this point, but they sure were quick to take everyone's money with the dlc on MS storefront though.

[@chamberkun]

​@@johnfink9020 Glad you're mentioning it. Feels like everyone is refusing to cover how they took our money and we got nothing.

[@johnfink9020]

@chamberkun that's bc they were paid to showcase the new update on their KZbin channel. I've been catching flak from people saying be patient, quit complaining, etc. I ask them, you have it on PC or Playstation? They say yes, and I'm like then wtf are you telling me to quit complaining for? You got your shit. It's our right as a paying consumer to voice our opinion no matter the reason. Their Livestream announcement today was bs anyways. They basically announced an "announcement", reminded you to subscribe to their newsletter like 63283 times, and mentioned Zip about refunds. Said the update will be "soon". Thats Keens favorite word, "Soon".

[@chamberkun]

@@johnfink9020 Couldn't agree more, the people that have it don't deserve to have a say. They got their shit and we practically got scammed. Ik for a fact they knew about the delay but have the dlc released regardless.

[@johnfink9020]

@@chamberkun xRAZGRIZx hmu whenever they decide to release this shit and we'll co-op this new shit out.

[@BjornWestdyk]

I can wait to build

[@bolland83]

I really hope they rethink the block grouping for toolbars, I don't have enough toolbars for the blocks I commonly use. Splitting things up the way they did just made the problem even worse. And why isn't there a group for the damned H2/O2 generator? That should be included with air vents and the oxygen farm, heck put the H2 and O2 tanks in that group as well (gas systems?). Why is the hydrogen engine not grouped with the other power generating blocks anymore? I wish we could customize these things how WE want instead of them changing it with every update, drives me nutts.

[@TimM-kz1vl]

Thanks for posting this, it's exactly why I didn't want to watch the anniversary livestream, I just wanted the highlights. cool stuff though!

[@CaptainJack]

No worries!

[@AlanGChenery]

Medieval Engineers just makes me sad. I so sorely wish its features were available in, or it had some more features of, Medieval Dynasty and Bellwright (which are both great games in their own right dont get me wrong).

[@QuadGodGamez]

This makes me wonder how this new block system will integrate in with the current damage system 👀🤔🔥

[@cookiedudegaming]

I hope the announcement is an ALPHA for the ENGINE. This wouldn't be a game, but just an empty (properly empty, not SE space empty) box with physics and basic building features. To put it another way, its a pile of sand waiting for its box. Just enough for people to go in and start testing and messing around. Again, not a game, an engine test.

[@princesidon6606]

I really want to see modular weapons

[@mattstorm360]

Way i see it, space Engineers is now a closed circle. That doesn't mean the circle can't get bigger nor dose it mean they can't add another circle inside.

[@nucleargandhi3759]

It is interesting some of the models they showed like the lights and such. Don't think that's an SE model so it is interesting if they are already designing assets if they were just working on the engine

[@nucleargandhi3759]

Definitely makes me think there is more progress being made on a game along with the Vrage 3 engine work. I think there is more progress towards this than have been letting on

[@inahokaizuka8587]

if VRAGE 3 won't be implemented into SE but instead SE 2 i hope they add all the stuff from SE 1 to SE 2 like mods and stuff, itll kinda be barren for a while if not since the modders would be working to get their mods posted for SE 2

[@vazaruspaytonas7017]

So I asked if Vrage 3 supports Blazor. I also asked if any netcode advancements they made for Vrage 3 would be implemented into space engineers. They didn't answer my question but I would like to know this information. Even if they will be using C++ again would be nice to know.

[@OwlThunder_Gaming]

I just really hope they implement a feature where SE1 blueprints can be brought into SE2 without making you rebuild them

[@zack_the_proot]

Space engineer's 2 is not a separate game It's the same game, they will simply put vrage 3 on space engineers 1 and do a lot of changes.

[@OwlThunder_Gaming]

@@zack_the_proot that seems hard to believe, as at that point, it would cost keen more to change an aging engine for a new one, than to just release it as a new game. Besides, it wouldn’t be worth it in the long run to take a 10+ year old game and change it into a modern engine

[@zack_the_proot]

@@OwlThunder_Gaming it's what they said.

[@reapergaming2022]

Betting the big announcement will be potential release date for se2

[@jh5kl]

unified grid is a massive improvement but 25 cm is too big, we need better detail and 25cm is just too large. smaller blocks and building with voxelhands would be perfect

[@IgnobleKin]

Medieval Engineers 2 confirmed.

[@jennifercormier2318]

How can you say this isn't a big update? Unified grids makes for infinite build options. It's quite possibly the biggest and most needed update for this engine.

[@CaptainJack]

It's not for Space Engineers...

[@RBsRealm]

Please tell me we don't have to weld EVERY individual block in the new 25cm grid system...

[@cheesymeteor9049]

I can already hear my PC screaming in pain

[@MANU-dw9dh]

For now let's enjoy the game in its current state, which I consider to be better than ever. Let's stop preparing so much for a future in which we probably won't be.

[@hover9504]

has it been said that vrage3 could be ported into SE1? or is that a no go? im curious

[@guru187]

Keen haven’t confirmed nor denied anything on it being a port however they said a while ago when they mentioned the new building system they said it would not work with any blueprints currently in the game. So IMO I think they will make a sequel because imagine the uproar if they announced “we’re upgrading the engine but say bye to all your guys bp’s”. If they made a sequel technically no bp’s would transfer but they would still exist in SE1.

[@kekwSpiler]

if vrage3 happens in se1 im gonna be really happy. if it happens in se2 im also gonna be really happy

[@phforNZ]

We did find out his favourite cheese, at least

[@teolegrande304]

It's nice that the developers are trying, but still, they are far away from the capabilities of mod builds of the game. I'm waiting for VR support to get back into the game. :)

[@dougbrinklow9979]

I stopped playing Keen games when they dropped Medieval Engineers like a hot potato. I may play this again some day, after VRage3 is implemented.

[@Nonpain]

biggest thing missing in SE for me are NPC's who man their ships/station/outposts and animals/wildlife on planets.

[@2005Guyver02]

ME still works, play it on and off. (With the lack of content for it, it gets boring fast)

[@SuperfluousUser1781]

Medieval Engineers was fantastic for its time but it desperately needs an update and better graphics.

[@lagunaloire2710]

Maybe it was me but it was just Marek talking about "the future" like nothing in particular... >.

[@pr0hobo]

Ive played a bit of midevil engineers, and i feel for those players not getting any love for thier game but i like se more

[@aycfes]

i'm guessing keen will cease development of SE after a few more updates to work on SE2

[@patrickheney9201]

SE has a proper game loop now? I disagree. SE is still "build shovel -> get resources -> build better shovel." The prototech element does nothing to change that. You're still gathering resources to build better shovels. It's no different than when a game like Diablo has an update that raises to maximum level from 60 to 70. Yes, there is now a combat driver, but then end result is the same, to get resources to build better shovels. I do think it's a good update. The blocks are very nice. The prototech loop IS pretty cool. But I wouldn't go so far as to say SE has "a proper game loop now," as it's still a trivial linear game loop with no reason to do anything other than build shovels.

[@Xxblackwolf217xX]

it looks like there going the same way stardock did ware the old game engin is at its breaking point so hopefully this means that space engi 2 is on the horizon