Twitch Vocal Coach Reacts to "Sons of Winter and Stars" by Wintersun | FIRST TIME LIVE REACTION

[@CharlieCalottaReacts]

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[@mattphillips2530]

19:23 Song of the Vulgar Goatmen

[@pete_lind]

Jari Mäenpää got tuberculosis in military and had 1/4 of his lungs removed , so one half of the other lung is removed . Other than few basic guitar lessons hes self learned , also one of his inspiration has been Devin Townsend .

[@Wagiii_]

@@pete_lind isn't it one 4th of one lung and not half that he had to get removed

[@pete_lind]

@@Wagiii_ You would think so , but lungs are not symmetrical , left has 2 and right has 3 parts ... so if you remove one part you lose 20 % from total .

[@Wagiii_]

@@pete_lind yeah well that's just what i heard from someone so..... Yeah

[@birrextio6544]

And Kai got 6 of his 8 arms removed to prevent overheating of the drums.

[@thomasthomsen2678]

Probably my favorite Kai meme so far! xD

[@Aurinkohirvi]

And here I thought it was 4 of his 8 arms.

[@birrextio6544]

@@Aurinkohirvi He has legs too. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXnSimhni6ifq6s

[@pedjavukmirovic6770]

😂😂legs tho .

[@Metal_Auditor]

He didn't lose a whole lung. He got TB while in the military and had part of one lung removed. Sources vary as to whether it was 1/4 or 1/2 of one lung that he lost.

[@schwanktest]

He posted once on FB "As some of you may know, I had a lung operation when I was in my early twenties and I lost 1/4 of my lungs. So touring has been hard for me. Dropping the guitar will make performing easier for me, which means we can do more touring and that's what we want to do."

[@ArinmarDeKaldenoc]

yes 25% just like me..

[@kurojester4513]

I thinks it’s 1/4 of his lung capacity or half a lung. That’s where the confusion comes from.

[@Always-fd7pk]

You have to check out "Loneliness/Winter", it's probably Jari's best vocal performance ever. He's belting his little heart out in that one

[@blogps3experts]

totally!!!

[@miikasuominen3845]

Exactly, go ahead and do it now ;) Also, other songs from the same session. Where he sings much more of "clean" parts... P.S. Also, he mainly sings the backing vocals too. Even on the Loneliness, he sings the "Angel Choir" parts... Many have hastily though, that it's a woman choir back there! ;D

[@ThaBeatConductor]

@@miikasuominen3845 The only one that really sounds like a woman in loneliness is the very last held note before the final chorus, every other voice during those sections is very clearly Jari. I have no idea how he did that female opera sound for that note, or if he just used a really good sample. Either is plausible and perfectly valid and viable.

[@madddog6790]

The drummer, Kai Hahto, is now Nightwish's permanent drummer (after filling in for Jukka for the last several years). Also, Jari Maenpaa, the singer, is the genius behind this band like Tuomas is with Nightwish. I think the story is he got TB in the Finnish Army (mandatory service), and had 1/2 of a lung removed, not a whole one. I could be wrong, but that's what I read somewhere. Jari is now only doing vocals, and the other guitarist in this vid, Teemu Mantysaari, is doing most of the lead. They added a second guitarist named Asim when Jari made the switch. And as for the guitar playing, they are all 3 just obscenely good. You should check out the solo to Winter Madness off their first album, to hear what Jari can do. The scary part about this band is that pretty much every song they have is this intense & epic. \m/

[@CharlieCalottaReacts]

Awesome story. Thanks for sharing! I'm super impressed with this band. Their music is AWESOME.

[@erwinmulder1338]

Kai still also performs with Wintersun. (Some people seem to think he 'left them for Nightwish')

[@madddog6790]

@@erwinmulder1338 Rolf Pilve has been filling in for him live, and I think there's another guy now. Since it may be another decade before Wintersun puts out anything new (haha), who knows if Kai will even record with them at this point. (I'm saying all of this with a smile, so don't take it too seriously).

[@suvivainio134]

Jari (or was it Kai) stated not so long ago that Kai is still working with Wintersun 👍

[@Aurinkohirvi]

There's a little bridge here. You guys mentioned Teemu Mäntysaari and Rolf Pilve: they are both in band called Smackbound, and they have a female singer with awesome raspy vocals, Netta Laurenne. Actually it was Netta who established this band. At the moment they are on process making their second album. Hot news is, that Netta is also making an album with Noora Louhimo!

[@ArinmarDeKaldenoc]

Just imagine that Jari, the singer and guitarist, composed all of this himself, mixed it, mastered it, even playes the instruments-tracks, besides the drums, on the albums alone. Just impressive

[@Idefixu]

Have you listened to Amorphis? "Death of a King" Official Video or "The Bee" lyrics video. The vocalist Tomi Joutsen has "two voices".

[@CharlieCalottaReacts]

Have not! Would love to hear both of those voices

[@annukkas]

I really like Tomi's clear voice, it's beautiful. I don't really enjoy growling that much, but I appreciate every one who can do it without damaging their voice. 👍

[@CharlieCalottaReacts]

@@annukkas absolutely awesome clear sound.

[@ilkkak3065]

Here is link Amorphis - The Bee kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpfCZaisrtKqiNk

[@TheRealCoyote]

@@CharlieCalottaReacts You totally should. Tomi is amazing vocalist and Amorphis is great!

[@annukkas]

Besides the great playing skills, I'm most impressed by the fact that they all three can sing with clear voices and also growl - and sound good together.

[@sambrejdr]

Black Winter Day

[@robertcraane7910]

Glad Americans discovering European metal in such large numbers! You guys have been missing out on something great!

[@atticantraverse6101]

Finnish metal is a genre of it's own.

[@robertcraane7910]

@@atticantraverse6101 How about all the Dutch symphonic voices and bands then? _ Unite!

[@MY1BLACKCAT]

this is just awesome music, and Finland does have the best metal in theworld

[@samikoljonen2646]

Normal day in office here in Finland.. thats how we roll

[@CharlieCalottaReacts]

VERY NICE SAMI

[@kujika]

Best comment xD To be honest metal like that gave me a headache at first but now could listen to it all day :)

[@ArumesYT]

A band with 3 legitimate vocalists, and ofcourse they have to pick the guy with one lung to be their main singer. Yup, that's Finland alright.

[@RÅNÇIÐ]

Now... TIME

[@apostleintriumph1758]

This is masterclass metal. You gotta do some more of them.

[@koch75ify]

Hey 😊🇫🇮 Next from the same studio session Time or Land of snow and Sorrow. Especially Time brings out Jarin’s clean vocals better.

[@ACorpseWithoutSoul]

Same song drumcam. Pearl Artist Kai Hahto/Wintersun - Sons Of Winter And Stars Drum Cam @ Nosturi, Helsinki 13.10.2012 - KZbin

[@samishiikihaku]

The main singer Jari Maenpaa had to join the military for a short period and in that time his got tuberculosis. Its not litterally half. But I believe hes operated at like 70% or something like that.... No love for that 70 second blast beat by the drummer? lol

[@tanjajko7220]

Fascinatlng, what you said about combining false vocal chord / chest voice combination. I always wondered about Wintersun’s Jari’s screaming because it’s so dry and compact and sounds like it hurts to produce 😁 Although always presumed it doesn’t because he’s been doing it for some time and his clean vocals are still great.

[@samoul]

Wintersun put that smile on everyone... !! 🤘 big love from Quêbec , Canada !!

[@Khaotika]

Small correction to what was suggested in chat. Jari Mäenpää had tuberculosis when he was as conscripted in the army, which required about 1/4th (so not half) of his lungs to be removed. It should only affect his lung capacity, not power.

[@juholaaksonen7455]

That snare sound though; that lovely little hint of echo.. Real achoustic drum sound. Absolutely love it.

[@DidTheSwansWin]

Ah yes! Nightwish and Floor are a gateway drug into sooooo many good bands and songs! Epica - Consign to Oblivion live at Zenith please!!

[@CharlieCalottaReacts]

Sure thing, Daniel! Adding to the list.

[@justskip4595]

I have never understood the hype about Floor and I've been listening Nightwish since the 90's. I suspect that part of the reason is that I am struggling to hear her voice and this happens with other people as well like with my little brother.

[@MountainMetal]

@@justskip4595 Um, WHAT?

[@luisnunes2010]

"Jari has a more unidimentional voice than Floor..." Could hear your Twitch chat snicker down here in KZbin. Have you done Unleash the Archers, Awakening? Good example of using growls to back up cleans. For outrageous displays of guitar virtuosity, Angra, Carry On, Rhapsody of Fire, Holy Thunderforce and Galneryous, Angel of Salvation. Fantastic singers, too.

[@CharlieCalottaReacts]

Thanks for the suggestions! I have not

[@silviahannak3213]

They are burning. The End and everything in between is in every Form most Beautiful.

[@papke1897]

Distortion vocals and regular vocals at the same time? Devin Townsend - Deadhead at Royal Albert Hall. Holy shit

[@fartvader84yearsago8]

3 and a half minutes in and I am already subbed. Great reaction

[@haikktu]

Ok. Since you enjoy nice growling and clean vocals in one package, you need to check out one of my favorites. Amorphis.

[@Ineluki_Myonrashi]

Lol, love how you called his voice one dimensional during the first part...hoo boy were you wrong.

[@CharlieCalottaReacts]

Yes

[@Ineluki_Myonrashi]

@@CharlieCalottaReacts A definite subscribe from me, I'll have to try to catch your twitch channel if you ever stream at a decent hour in Australia.

[@aurifelix]

his reaction to "until we fade away..." was perfect. enough crescendo for ya??? hahahah!

[@FrethKindheart]

Definitely need to do Wintersun - Time next.

[@MountainMetal]

More!

[@taphaeltube]

Nice, Thanks. Devin Townsend mixes screams & voices realy well.

[@CharlieCalottaReacts]

Thanks! I'll check him out

[@petriblomqvist3838]

@@CharlieCalottaReacts You are going to LOVE Devin Townsend. Some suggestions to showcase both his vocal range & prowess and his personality: Deadhead (Live at Royal Albert Hall), Why / Quarantine Show, and Kingdom for EMGtv. There's also Bastard - live at the Royal Albert Hall 2015, which is one of my absolute favorite songs of his. Vibes aplenty. And then there's his Strapping Young Lad days...

[@JhelleMies]

Townsend is also big influence for Jari

[@erwindegroot8760]

Don't forget Tatiana from Jinjer, she can switch in an instant from growling to clean voice and vice versa.

[@lrtt99]

1/4 of lunge removed, not a half. Females chorus voices were made by Jari too. Wintersun is gold and Jari is a genius.

[@pacmanpakkas]

also you still got 2 songs left from the studio to listen too :)

[@PatStone3]

Hi Brian, great reaction, thank you. This Band is incredible and I hardly ever listen to Metal Rock. However, when I hear great music, genre goes out the window. By the way, have you heard of Angelina Jordan? She’s a young lady from Norway, now living in LA. She’s 15 yo who sing what I call Jazz/pop music. She won Norway’s Got Talent at age 8. She has about 130 covers and originals on her KZbin Channel. Please check her out. She released this year two songs, an Original called “7th Heaven” and a cover of Adel called “All I Ask” that would be a good place to start. I hope you have a listen, I guarantee you’ll like her. By the way, last year when she was 14, she got signed to Republic Records. Thank you again. I just subscribed to your channel.

[@mitchthepower]

I think the singer looks like Thranduil from the Hobbit (movie).

[@viktoriiakuchma2649]

You need to hear Jinjer) lt's one more outstanding band that if you heard it once you will never forget)) Jinjer - Pisces (live studio session).. But be prepared, Jinjer Army will follow to take your soul)))

[@ArvoR]

scream harmony in different way, screamer + soprano = new Epica - Abyss of Time

[@vecseyadam1992]

Jari, the lead vocalist wrote all the lyrics and music for all songs (except for a tiny part in the drums).

[@joesharkey1021]

And on the next album, Forest Seasons, he wrote, played, sang, mixed and produced! Choirs and low growls excepted...

[@Rev0UK1]

this best displays how 'technical' they cna all be / all the layering etc But 'Time' is the better overall piece in terms of composition and just general awesome'ness

[@CuChulaines]

Another suggestion: Try out Epica - Sancta Terra / Live with Floor Jansen as a guest

[@CharlieCalottaReacts]

We watched it on stream! Will be uploading it this week!

[@chancellor05]

If you want the Swiss Army knife of metal vocals, you HAVE to check out Devin Townsend. He is hands down the most versatile male metal vocalist I’ve ever heard, plus he’s hilarious to boot. Start with “Kingdom” and go from there.

[@hynagiterra8470]

(Jazz and swing mixed with metal and opera) Diablo Swing Orchestra-- Superhero Jagganath or Guerrilla Laments

[@CharlieCalottaReacts]

You've just piqued my interest VERY hard

[@hynagiterra8470]

Balrog Boogie is one of their most jazziest songs

[@CharlieCalottaReacts]

@@hynagiterra8470 thank you! Looking forward to hearing them!

[@johnscaramis2515]

Melodic/symphonic death metal 🤘

[@maxviking3210]

I hear someone saying ting they like Sabaton, I press like. But that was a great reation. And 🇸🇪❤️🇫🇮

[@maxviking3210]

Btw, Sabaton has done a cover of “twillight of the thundergod”. Would be cool to see a reaction of Amon Amarth that did the original.

[@Hamish_Whitehaven]

one of your best :)

[@DoubIeO]

I think you should also check out Simone Simons and Oliver Palotai's cover of "this is Halloween". She is the Lead Singer of Epica and he plays the Keyboards in Kamelot, the song is pretty short but I think you have still a lot to talk about to. Also if you like Sonata Arctica you probably want to look into Kamelot too. And from Epica there is too much good stuff out there to put it into one list, they are doing Symphonic Metal like Nightwish but different and had a whole 3+hours live Concert with an Orchestra (any live version from the Retrospect show/concert)

[@emilianobernal7274]

You have to react to Awaken From the Dark Slumber, it's an awesome song with lots of transitions

[@j7...]

Kai was originally jazz educated as far as i know, somehow came to the grindcoreband rotten sound, recorded 'wintersun' the first album together with jari who played all the other instruments. Nightwish now took him after time 1 because he is basically kratos at this point. After time 1 there was huge struggle with the label and the opportunity was just there. Let's be honest it's good money easy earned for a drummer of his caliber. But i believe he will always there to record the albums together with jari :)

[@petri4625]

WOW FINLAND !!!!

[@lujalainen1]

i hope i see this song next pirate of caribean movie :) this band music is like fanfare all guitars and drums in the world. thanx to great reaction and analyze.

[@ACorpseWithoutSoul]

King Diamond - Abigail: In Concert 2016 [Espoo, Finland, 11/06/2016] (Live) [Full Show] - KZbin

[@Psychotyzm]

You may want to check Alissa White Gluz. She can change the pitch of her growl on the fly...

[@ACorpseWithoutSoul]

You must check out this heavy metal icon King Diamond. He is a Legend. King Diamond - Sleepless Nights - Live at The Fillmore (OFFICIAL) - KZbin

[@brandoncormier8195]

18:43 dude went full Jack Black face after it went hard agin haha

[@CharlieCalottaReacts]

I quoted him in my high school year book photo

[@CharlieCalottaReacts]

"Never underestimate the power of the eyebrow"

[@brandoncormier8195]

I would say that quote fits this clip beautifully.

[@Esmeagolly]

He misses half of 1 lung, so 25% of his lungs due to tuberculosis in his military says

[@Viryn]

Love this shit 😎👌

[@NortheR2301]

i can do both at the same time : scream and clean mixed. been a death metal singer for over 14 years now and I can do this, it's not that hard actually, usually when warming up before a show or a rehearsal I do this : make a clean note and while holding it I switch it to a growl. Once I was : "I wonder what happens if I stop in the middle" and turns out that it's actually not that hard when you do just that.

[@NortheR2301]

also jaari maenpaa is the singer that inspired me to become one and I used to try and "copy" his voice when I was in the process of learning how to scream/growl

[@juhavaris2144]

Amorphis plz start with there song the bee 🙏

[@auto167]

Try battle beast no More Hollywood endings

[@mormacil]

If you like Glory Hammer and the like check out Brothers of Metal. They're from the same town as Sabaton. Not neccesarily as a reaction, good metal just needs to be shared.

[@pacmanpakkas]

its 1 half of 1 of his lungs, but its more like 1/4 of his lung was removed. but still

[@kah227]

Time to react to some more Finnish metal. Nr.1 Wintersun but you did it. Smackbound - "Drive It Like You Stole It" kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJLOlZiPiKd6adk Kalmah - Take Me Away (Official video) kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6PaYYiLptdnrM0 AMORPHIS - The Bee (OFFICIAL LYRIC VIDEO) kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpfCZaisrtKqiNk INSOMNIUM - While We Sleep (OFFICIAL VIDEO) kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHO9ZoaCf9KZmtk Bloodred Hourglass - Valkyrie [Official Video] kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3zZoZ6barCbY68 Wolfheart - The Hunt (Official Video) kzbin.info/www/bejne/d33QeImJptdsZ6c Ensiferum - In My Sword I Trust kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2O6ooSPlN2Gia8 Turmion Kätilöt - Sikiö kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIm9gmhroKZkoq8 SWALLOW THE SUN - Firelights (OFFICIAL VIDEO) kzbin.info/www/bejne/jabPY6ybfNRmjc0 KYPCK - Ya svoboden (I Am Free) kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooulemyEpsl2nKc Mokoma - Kuollut, kuolleempi, kuollein kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJzCopxjaaqriJY VIIKATE - Viina, Terva & Hauta kzbin.info/www/bejne/amappH18bt2Iqas Timo Rautiainen & Trio Niskalaukaus - Lumessakahlaajat kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4jHommKitOGbs0 Battle Beast old singer - Iron Hand (OFFICIAL LIVE) kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2Orcpxvq9CGpNE Battle Beast new singer - Familiar Hell (OFFICIAL VIDEO) kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmTOaKWVip2VapI Korpiklaani - Ievan polkka kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5K3eoafm62Um8k CHILDREN OF BODOM - "This Road" (OFFICIAL LYRIC VIDEO) kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3rWk6t-bNBnicU BELZEBUBS - Cathedrals Of Mourning (OFFICIAL VIDEO) kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZzHnI2EZteXq9E FINNTROLL - Mask kzbin.info/www/bejne/sISUfayrjpWko6s Mors Subita - Sick kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3_ciJewgq-AiMk SUOTANA - Into The Ice kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIeanp6Efd-LlbM OMNIUM GATHERUM - Be The Sky (OFFICIAL VIDEO) - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqDWYqaXftx8oqs

[@CharlieCalottaReacts]

Omg this list... HAHAHA Guess we'll be doing an all Finnish stream!!!

[@kah227]

@@CharlieCalottaReacts And because you like singing you should look upp this old A-ha song Take on me with the Northern Kings maybe you could call it a Finnish "boy band" *Big big smile* kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZyre4WogtygibM

[@CharlieCalottaReacts]

@@kah227 hah! Sounds great. I try to focus on vocals, so I appreciate it!

[@Skybolt211]

You need to check out MaryZ's channel called VoiceHacks... she has lots of info on metal singing without harming your voice...

[@jamesallen1153]

Might as well check out Sabaton next. Floor's husband, Hannes, is the drummer for Sabaton.

[@TheNismo777]

There is like 1850 backtracks in this one :]

[@CharlieCalottaReacts]

True

[@maxwelljeremy5659]

Jari is probably as close to a classical music composer as there is in "modern music".

[@CharlieCalottaReacts]

@@maxwelljeremy5659 i can tell. It's a deceivingly complex composition

[@davidellis7960]

Look into these Vocal Artists : Morgan James PMJ, (Sharon den Adel, Tarja Turunen , are Close to Floor Social Friends) . They Bring Power to the Stage.

[@hamsicle]

Jari is like Maynard great at singing.

[@juhavaris2144]

Try Swallow the sun another band there Kai has played with

[@Pave999]

Time II D-57 😎

[@korylinn2251]

IT’S FILCH 😂😂😂😂

[@mattphillips2530]

I don't know why but TB is/was a huge problem in Finland

[@drob841]

If you want to see a good example of how screaming is done right live video, Suicide Silence - Unanswered by Phil Bozeman. Not a very family friendly song lyrically, don't know if you care about that on your channel. Maybe just look at that on your own and see it for yourself and do a breakdown instead of a reaction. Or just enjoy it on your own!

[@markoruotsalainen5480]

Yes,,,same guy,,,same lung

#metalsymphony

[@bananas1318]

im really curious on how many calories the drummer burns playing this song lol

[@northof4912]

I think one half has been a bit exaggerated….

[@gabrielhernandez6442]

Good reacción my friend but stop too much .

[@CharlieCalottaReacts]

It's live! We do what we gotta do! My goal is to spread knowledge on the human voice to all of the live viewers on Twitch. Thanks for your feedback!