Inside a neon tube test antenna - and electronic jammer? (with schematic)

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bigclivedotcom

bigclivedotcom

4 жыл бұрын

This is actually a fairly retro device as reflected in the circuitry. Its original purpose was to test neon signs in situ to find faulty tubes. In a traditional neon sign there can be several sections of tubing in series on a transformer, and if one loses vacuum internally it effectively goes open circuit.
This unit is basically a high frequency and high voltage transmitter. When you touch the antenna to the side or end of a tube it will cause it to glow if it is still operational.
They were also sold in electrical retailers for testing fluorescent lamps, but weren't really suited to that task as they do not show the state of the electrodes, and only give an indication if the tube has a seal failure, which is rare.
The circuitry is interesting though, as it has strong similarities to a device called a jammer that was used on some early electronic equipment. By inducing voltage in circuitry or wiring remotely it can cause unexpected results, and in the past similar devices were used to defraud petrol pumps and gaming equipment by interfering with their operation.
Modern cash equipment has extra protection to detect things like this to allow them to shut down and trigger an alarm or in earlier equipment just force a reset.
An interesting recent example of the electrical interference was when a sign installer was driving his truck to a job and his helper was playing with the device. The helper touched the antenna to the truck door and the engine management system cut out forcing the driver to make an unplanned stop on a layby. When they turned the ignition off and on again it resumed normal operation.
These devices have other uses, but their primary use is in the neon sign industry.
Be aware that these units can damage adjacent electronics without contact. Use with care.
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@ZeedijkMike
@ZeedijkMike 4 жыл бұрын
Nearly got nostalgic tears in my eyes when I saw the NE555. Such simplicity and still endless uses.
@benbaselet2026
@benbaselet2026 4 жыл бұрын
Quite a few newish gear still has them. I bet designers like them for the nostalgia and of course they must be dirt cheap too :)
@markiangooley
@markiangooley 4 жыл бұрын
The only chip I had anywhere near as much fun with as the 555 as a boy was the LM 3909... now unfortunately unavailable. Needs to be revived.
@tbelding
@tbelding 4 жыл бұрын
@Mai Mariarti - Should fit in a standard envelope to be mailed to Clive :)
@RicoElectrico
@RicoElectrico 4 жыл бұрын
@@markiangooley You can abuse ICL7660 and clones to do a LED flasher as well.
@tbelding
@tbelding 4 жыл бұрын
@Mai Mariarti - Canada Post - Yes, I know how expensive they are, at least, when they're not on strike. AliExpress isn't going to be that cheap for much longer (if they are now at all.) It's that whole 'developing nation' deal for the cost of shipping. I'd also personally rather buy them from TI, if at all possible.
@ElementalMaker
@ElementalMaker 4 жыл бұрын
I love me anything 555! That chip was the centerpiece of the very basic waveform generator I built back in my college days.
@devicemodder
@devicemodder 4 жыл бұрын
I have one inside my homebuilt bench supply. it's used to latch/unlatch a relay on the output terminals so i can adjust the voltage with something connected and don't end up frying the device.
@stdorn
@stdorn 4 жыл бұрын
my goto's 555, 741, 386
@tonythemadbrit9479
@tonythemadbrit9479 4 жыл бұрын
I built disco type light flashers when I was about 14 in the 70s using 555s. I also built a copy of the Rolf Harris (pedo) stylophone mini organ. Very easy chip to work with. Fun times!
@ntsecrets
@ntsecrets 4 жыл бұрын
Look up “portable dog killer”
@ntsecrets
@ntsecrets 4 жыл бұрын
Actually the modern portable dog killer doesn’t use a 555 but the original did.
@bitrot42
@bitrot42 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, takes me back to the days of CB radio... Some crafty folks would wrap one lead of a neon bulb around the tip of the antenna, and it would light up when transmitting. I guess there were fewer options for demonstrating extreme nerdiness back then.
@Palmit_
@Palmit_ 4 жыл бұрын
"stuff pliers in, open them up.. oww oww ow.. .. . . this is working. . .. it's open!" worst Lube advert ever lol
@richardhalliday159
@richardhalliday159 4 жыл бұрын
Nearly 50 years old ! never thought in a million years ( or 48 years ) that long after my college days we would be still discussing its modern day application when I’m drawing my old age pension - incredible, or should that be unbelievable !
@bearicade5582
@bearicade5582 4 жыл бұрын
More orders for Neon tester were placed this day,Than on any day EVER.
@nogravitas7585
@nogravitas7585 4 жыл бұрын
*The FCC would like to know your location*
@bearicade5582
@bearicade5582 4 жыл бұрын
@@nogravitas7585 And the location of EVERYONE who orders one.
@tbelding
@tbelding 4 жыл бұрын
@@nogravitas7585 - Don't worry, they'll be able to figure it out pretty quickly.
@harriehausenman8623
@harriehausenman8623 4 жыл бұрын
@@tbelding By just scanning the local RF neighbourhood.
@SlyerFox666
@SlyerFox666 4 жыл бұрын
🤣
@jindivik321
@jindivik321 4 жыл бұрын
i love it when you read the terrible broken English instructions with complete sincerity :D
@karldavies2954
@karldavies2954 4 жыл бұрын
Has me in stitches every time 😂😂
@harriehausenman8623
@harriehausenman8623 4 жыл бұрын
highly enjoyable
@janami-dharmam
@janami-dharmam 4 жыл бұрын
“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less.’ ’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’ ’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master - that’s all.”
@T2D.SteveArcs
@T2D.SteveArcs 4 жыл бұрын
Lol I see any instructions with a Chinese product and my first thought is bonus and that immediately fades to a feeling of of a bad odds gamble ....
@rysacroft
@rysacroft 4 жыл бұрын
The instructions for my freezer told me that I could get "freezer bum". It's just a typo but for the rest of my life I'll try to avoid that scenario :)
@robinkeys8163
@robinkeys8163 4 жыл бұрын
Started my career as an electrician in an electric sign plant and we had at the time three full time tube benders. I have a late 90's model tube tester exactly like the one you took to bits. Another interesting aside, when troubleshooting a large array of tubes in a multi-tube sign, you can touch the glass and the tubes will "vibrate" with a slight corona of static. The tubes that have failed will be "cold", and won't have a static field around them, thus leading you to the problem tube you need to have remade. I'm not certain that this would work with the more modern GFCI/AFCI protected neon transformers, but it was sure fire simple to troubleshoot the older unprotected ones. I left the sign trade for apprenticeship in a traditional electrical shop before the use of the protected transformers became the norm, so I don't have any real experience with them.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 4 жыл бұрын
With the modern electronic transformers, touching the tube would probably make it light up and pull an arc to your hand. They are sometimes quite troublesome.
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
I don't like the new electronic ballasts. They are awfully hard to abuse, and make into cool things such as Tesla coils. Whenever I find an abandoned old broken neon sign, I cut the transformer off and save it. 👌 One can never have enough of these these things.
@nutsnproud6932
@nutsnproud6932 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Clive. I'm a radio ham. I once turned up the power to the legal maximum (400 watts on Short wave). The fluorescent tunes and neons used to light up around the house.
@b3j8
@b3j8 4 жыл бұрын
Still have a dog-eared copy of a book on various 555 circuits i bought while in college. Loved that chip! Talk about a real workhorse!
@Petertronic
@Petertronic 4 жыл бұрын
@b3j8 was it written by R. A. Penfold? I had a ton of his books ;)
@Fifury161
@Fifury161 4 жыл бұрын
@@Petertronic I have a lot of his books! I've moved on to ESP8266 now, but I bought a reel of surface mount 555 & 4017s to have a bit of retro fun!
@DavidFrankland
@DavidFrankland 4 жыл бұрын
@@Petertronic That's the one I was thinking of. Yellow cover. Probably sitting in a box here somewhere.
@KJohansson
@KJohansson 4 жыл бұрын
Is it the "555 Cookbook"? Classic!
@Fifury161
@Fifury161 4 жыл бұрын
@@KJohansson Indeed - he wrote about 170 books and retired in 2017. I had a lot of his books (about 100 of them) and they got water damaged ;-( Difficult to replace these days as the earlier ones are out of print now
@travelbugse2829
@travelbugse2829 4 жыл бұрын
It warmed the cockles of my heart. For the first time in what seems an aeon, I actually UNDERSTOOD the schematic of a Big Clive tear-down and recognised a component at the start. Dear God, I am old...
@jmhaddon
@jmhaddon 4 жыл бұрын
Loving Ralfy's big button, Thanks for turning me on to his channel.
@DasIllu
@DasIllu 4 жыл бұрын
It's a cattle prod for radio amateurs. You press the button, ham goes nuts :D
@DJPhilTBCollins
@DJPhilTBCollins 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly it would be just one voice in a chorus of knockoff wall warts, phone chargers, and poorly designed CFL/LED supplies. However there's always the magnetic loop antenna!
@Anvilshock
@Anvilshock 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha, good one!
@sadiqmohamed681
@sadiqmohamed681 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my! 50 years of 555s! That really does make me feel old. Back in the mid-70s, I was sharing a house with some other engineering types (one was working for what was then the Post Office R&D on System-X! Anyone else know what that was?), and all being Star Trek fans decided we needed a Red Alert siren for our door bell. So I made one using 2 555s. It caused much hilarity for those in the know, and consternation for the rest. Glad to see the chip is still going strong. On Hackaday you still get the "but you could have done it a 555" about something using an Arduino or ESP32! A fascinating bit of retro stuff, Clive.
@kingsman428
@kingsman428 4 жыл бұрын
System X, still in use today, used by Telco companies on Nokia based PDH networks.
@sadiqmohamed681
@sadiqmohamed681 4 жыл бұрын
@@kingsman428 Fascinating. I knew that it was still around in the UK 15 years ago, as my local exchange in SW London had just been changed over to the latest version and the old building was being emptied. Every generation the equipment gets smaller.
@kingsman428
@kingsman428 4 жыл бұрын
@@sadiqmohamed681 *SW London* I'm just down the road from there _Brighton_ *Local exchange* Sounds like you're talking about BTs topology *Equipment gets smaller* Well, to put that into perspective, our system X switch consumes a small warehouse full of racks of PDH cards, wirewraps, PSUs and switching gear, its IP based replacement solution fits inside a box small enough that an Amazon delivery driver could carry it to your door. Whilst System X is being *sun-setted* it will be around for a few more years yet which is testament to how robust it actually is. 😁
@dumandugu6890
@dumandugu6890 4 жыл бұрын
According with your reverse engineered schematic and with the help of an online NE555 frequency calculator, it seems that the circuit vibrates at 62.468kHz with a 51.43% duty cycle. Nice teardown, thanks for sharing!
@guyteigh3375
@guyteigh3375 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I did wonder what sort of frequency it was running at and gating at.
@ant060495
@ant060495 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Clive, just on the topic of the 555 theyre still widely used in schools in tech classes in the UK, we used them constantly along with programmable PIC chips in GCSE and A-level classes. There were whole GCSE modules on 555 timer chips. Theyre still alive and kicking
@donaldasayers
@donaldasayers 4 жыл бұрын
I used them too in teaching electronics. I nearly got a stamp made so I didn't have to draw an 8 pin dip package. I can still draw the standard 555 circuits in my sleep. God it was boring, I wanted to teach metalwork and engineering and always ended up teaching fecking electronics. But the making has gone now from "design technology" it's only 10% of the final mark, the rest is exams. I retired.
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 4 жыл бұрын
we used to put the neon with dropping resistors on the end of CB antennas, they'd light anywhere from low orange to purple at higher powers and change intensity as you modulated ( AM/SSB)
@tncorgi92
@tncorgi92 Жыл бұрын
That's genius, my dad had HAM and CB equipment, wish I'd thought to do that!
@joeboyko2138
@joeboyko2138 4 жыл бұрын
I had a similar device for sign repair troubleshooting. It came in handy for fueling station canopy logos which utilized neon back in the day. Also metal halide, hp sodium...ect. For obvious reasons, these testers can not be UL approved. Thank you enjoyed your video, like always. Ohh...glad you don't have a pacemaker...
@truckerallikatuk
@truckerallikatuk 4 жыл бұрын
Your arithmetic is correct. I'm almost the same age as the 555 timer chip. I feel blesed.
@superdigital.
@superdigital. 4 жыл бұрын
They are definitely nice to have if the suspected circuit has no obvious breaks, however it will not tell you if the electrode is going bad on the tube so it's use is pretty limited. Thank you for all of the videos you make Clive.
@creativejamieplays7185
@creativejamieplays7185 4 жыл бұрын
Love the Chinglish instructions.
@rysacroft
@rysacroft 4 жыл бұрын
@@ts757arse That's really funny! LOL
@shinyshadow
@shinyshadow 4 жыл бұрын
Just done a simulation of the schematic and it turns out the 555 is clapping away at 35Khz, Just saying.
@shinyshadow
@shinyshadow 3 жыл бұрын
@@f1acf1ac Thats the difference between simulation and reality..
@luism.raposo5138
@luism.raposo5138 4 жыл бұрын
Back in 1992 I use to make those tubes for, I.L.C Technology in Sunnyvale, California. So much fun. Thank you
@stevejagger8602
@stevejagger8602 Жыл бұрын
The 555 timer is one of the wonders of the analogue electronic world. I still use them - I am that old!
@Electronzap
@Electronzap 4 жыл бұрын
That's a really cool neon tester! Looks like it is high voltage, but it also limits current so that you can't get violently shocked.
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
Ah, finally! A pure analog circuit... Now you're speaking my language. I miss the days of analysing and repairing analog electronics. It's maybe why I love creating, playing around with, and repairing Hi-Fi power amplifiers of both vacuum tubes and transistors today still. 🤷🏻
@Zadster
@Zadster 4 жыл бұрын
One of the first electronic things I ever made and sold were CB radio "eyeball badges". Basically badges with your CB "handle" (callsign) on, and 2 eyes. I drilled the eyes out and replaced them with LEDs, made them flash initially with a 2 transistor astable, then later on a 555. Not bad for an 11 year old. It didn't make me rich but it subsidised my electronics habit for a few months!
@ArtemisKitty
@ArtemisKitty 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. This takes me back so much! The 555 was the first timer chip I worked with back in the 80s! So simple to do SO much with, haha. (I started a bit early on LEDs and building my own toys/projects, haha.) And the 2N2222 transistors too, I’ve used SO MANY of both of those.
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
Yep. The 555 and 556 is a jelly bean part that had, and still does, have an importance in modern electronics.
@CheapCheerful
@CheapCheerful 4 жыл бұрын
Clive, you're one of the few things which actually makes me LOL. You're a classic :)
@biggothkitty
@biggothkitty 4 жыл бұрын
Is anyone else NOT surprised that Clive has a tool for this?
@tranzco1173
@tranzco1173 4 жыл бұрын
Is anyone not surprised that he hasn't electrocuted himself for us, "just for a test"? He is a human FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER.
@CookingWithCows
@CookingWithCows 4 жыл бұрын
@@tranzco1173 but he did.
@AngDavies
@AngDavies 4 жыл бұрын
he has (had?) another one, but that one was powered by the mains and designed for sex stuf, this one seems rather mundane by comparison XD. Old old video - youtube search Big clive violet wand.
@martingilvray06
@martingilvray06 4 жыл бұрын
Having spent years in the neon sign maintenance this little tool was a god send especially 9000 plus neons
@godmonkeyjr
@godmonkeyjr 4 жыл бұрын
When you said something about it looking like a circuit from an 80's magazine I am almost positive I built this circuit or something extremely similar from a magazine article back in the late 80's. It might even have been the first time I used a 555 for anything!
@richardmslater
@richardmslater 4 жыл бұрын
Brings back memorys when I did electronics as a hobby great fun.
@TheElectronicDilettante
@TheElectronicDilettante Жыл бұрын
It looks similar to a DC -CDI ignition system schematic for a single cylinder motorcycle engine. Thanks for all the cool videoes.
@keithcitizen4855
@keithcitizen4855 4 жыл бұрын
very interesting well explained , top marks for finding this device to show
@Robvdh87
@Robvdh87 4 жыл бұрын
I bet they didn't think you would have sorted those neons out in about 5 seconds. Neither did I actually 😂 great stuff
@just_noXi
@just_noXi 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I thought "that's it!" when the switcharoo happened
@Starphot
@Starphot 4 жыл бұрын
My first oscillator was the neon bulb/ capacitor connected to a series resistor "do nut'in" to 90 VDC. The second was an astable multivibrator made from germanium transistors, both in 1972. The third was two astable multivibrators made from silicon transistors I put in a model rocket with a CB channel 14 transmitter doing the Sputnik thing in 1973. The 555 came a little later in 1973. The 555 is in my drive controller to my 10" telescope mount I still use and take pictures with. All except the first oscillator I still have.
@neville3151
@neville3151 4 жыл бұрын
You can use it to test neon bulbs, cook hot dogs and warm your coffee.
@Thematt11
@Thematt11 4 жыл бұрын
I have one of these designed to test CFL's, it has an eight foot extendable probe on it like a car antennae. That means that helpfully you're at least 8 feet away whenever you touch it to the back of your mates neck to give him an awake check.
@atkelar
@atkelar 4 жыл бұрын
Tricksters underestimating Clive's magic wand... Film at 11! 🤣️
@skysurferuk
@skysurferuk 4 жыл бұрын
Always love BC trying to shock hissel'...! Thanks for posting.
@deathcube2006
@deathcube2006 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice circuit. Looks very much like the ones I used to make years ago
@terabyte7683
@terabyte7683 4 жыл бұрын
It's unfortunate that the neon sign industry isn't too popular now, there's something about genuine neon bulbs and tubes that no imitation product can really get right.
@marcr1333
@marcr1333 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of cities ban them and LED is more efficient. And some say much brighter. Though I don’t think so myself when it comes to an equivalent.
@terabyte7683
@terabyte7683 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcr1333 they are much more efficient and they are brighter but I simply like neon for aspects that leds can't replicate
@marcr1333
@marcr1333 3 жыл бұрын
Terabyte7 I had a few stores that got LED Rope around the roof and some with NEON. Neon definitely sticks out more and bit brighter for this specifically. But I definitely agree. They’re beautiful.
@DerMarkus1982
@DerMarkus1982 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, old friend! I wasn't expecting to see *you* in there, 555!
@russellhltn1396
@russellhltn1396 4 жыл бұрын
The NE555 is sure versatile. In high school I designed and built an alarm of out of them. One for exit delay, one for entry delay, one to make a siren nose and one to sweep the tone on the siren.
@supratub
@supratub 3 жыл бұрын
To keep kids quiet at parties I have found a plasma ball & a random selection of small flo tubes & neon indicators most valuable. :)
@bansheemania1692
@bansheemania1692 4 жыл бұрын
What kind of Magic is This 🙌
@kenaston4220
@kenaston4220 4 жыл бұрын
Many years ago...me and a friend, happened on a mains powered neon driver transformer... it was 10Kv and a decent current! About the size of a car battery. Well, we just had to arrange a spark gap across it with one side connected to a long wire antenna.... THAT is what you call a jammer! the spark gap electrodes glowed red and gradually disintegrated...
@Emc1683
@Emc1683 4 жыл бұрын
They also work good for testing fluorescent lamps in signs, or light fixtures.
@AndrewGillard
@AndrewGillard 4 жыл бұрын
The "Violet Wand" devices are effective jammers, of sorts, too :) An ex-partner of mine has one that I believe came from a UK sex toy shop (Lovehoney, possibly), and it would blank the screen of my laptop if it was powered on any closer than about a foot. However it wasn't something I experimented with very much at all, as I didn't want to risk damaging my then-very-new, £1500 laptop!
@TuxraGamer
@TuxraGamer 4 жыл бұрын
It was probably just triggering the "lid closed" sensor, which is literally a cheap piece of metal that gets shorted by a huge magnet somewhere in your laptop's display assembly, so its way to determine whether it's connected or not tends to be really rough.
@Chris-___-
@Chris-___- 4 жыл бұрын
Hall effect sensor picking up EMF is unlikely I think
@ProfessorFartsalot
@ProfessorFartsalot 4 жыл бұрын
@@TuxraGamer More likely the high frequency would interfere with the LCD driver coil and cause the signal microcontroller to crash.
@TuxraGamer
@TuxraGamer 4 жыл бұрын
@@ProfessorFartsalot Eh, actually, sounds coherent. I was just guessing though.
@SlyerFox666
@SlyerFox666 4 жыл бұрын
It's not just a violet wand ... It's an S&M Violet Wand 🤭
@ralgith
@ralgith 4 жыл бұрын
Clive, the 555 timers are still used a lot in Arduino (and other micro-controller) projects for hobbyists. It's a great reliable little chip.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 4 жыл бұрын
Not bad for a 48 year old chip. It's doing better than its 53 year old brother the 741 op-amp.
@ralgith
@ralgith 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigclivedotcom Yessir, I'll agree with that! But, OpAmps are fun, and so useful for so many things. There are just so many better choices for OpAmps these days. I've only been into hobby electronics for about 5 years now, so I've never used a 741. Not even seen one.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
@Matthayi Naalaaman Nothing can really beat the 555, which is still mass produced. But you can create similar timers or pulse generators with schmitt trigger logic chips.
@mrnmrn1
@mrnmrn1 2 ай бұрын
​@@ralgithYou might have used the 741 without noticing it. The RC4558 is a common opamp, an it is essentially a dual 741 without offset adjustment. There are a few other opamps which are very similar to the good old 741.
@gregorythomas333
@gregorythomas333 4 жыл бұрын
Damn...haven't seen a circuit like this in ages...yes I'm an old fart :) A lot of the old-school electronics were functional but could be used for nefarious purposes as well.
@MisterTalkingMachine
@MisterTalkingMachine 4 жыл бұрын
I had to build multivibrators and 555 circuits in college, that was in 2018 I think. From my experience the 555 is not as ubiquitous now as it might have been at some point, or some people make it out to be, but it still shows up every so often when taking stuff apart. One time I was walking by the beach and I saw a small piece of circuit board on the ground, about the size of a coin, the components left on that piece were a 555 and a resistor I think.
@pinterelectric
@pinterelectric 4 жыл бұрын
Do I remember putting a neon on the tip of a cb 102 inch whip and it would light when you transmit?
@Cammi_Rosalie
@Cammi_Rosalie 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how that would work atop my Antron-99 being fed by a quite modified Cobra 142-GTL (Has 80 am channels plus ssb, and more wattage) and Thnuderbolt-101 linear?
@ProdigalPorcupine
@ProdigalPorcupine 4 жыл бұрын
I used to enjoy lighting up fluorescent tubes with my CB aerial to impress my friends back in the day. You could definitely get little lights for the tips of aerials that were energised by the RF. In the old pre-legalisation days in the U.K, having an indicator atop your aerial telling the world you’re transmitting seemed a rather unwise thing to do... :-)
@Blazer02LS
@Blazer02LS 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, used to have them on the rack at the CB shop I worked in. The average 4 watt rig would make them glow a bit. The rigs we built would light them up like the sun...
@paintfree1
@paintfree1 4 жыл бұрын
It also works with LED's. I had a tiny voltage regulator circuit with a little LED taped to the top of my antenna. Positive touching the antenna, negative just flapping in the breeze. It did light up when transmitting. Very fun
@CsBence98
@CsBence98 4 жыл бұрын
@@paintfree1 We at the radio club have a board tiled with dipoles with a rectifier and LED in the middle, for demonstrating directionality of antennas. It's quite fun to drag the transmitting Yagi around and see the lights follow :D
@Matt-re8bt
@Matt-re8bt 4 жыл бұрын
I have to admit that I spent a lot of this video wincing, waiting for an "ElectroBoom moment".
@JOHN-wy2iv
@JOHN-wy2iv 3 жыл бұрын
I remember being in my cabin on the Belfast to Liverpool ferry and watching the fluorescent tube glow dimly every few seconds. I then realised it was the ship's radar rotating and causing the tube to glow.
@blitzroehre1807
@blitzroehre1807 4 жыл бұрын
The 555 was not so cheap in 1974, about 3 USD apiece if I remember correctly...... Been in production for a long time :-)
@tubastuff
@tubastuff 4 жыл бұрын
Old time neon sign makers would use a "Violet Ray" device with a metal probe rather than a gas tube to accomplish the same end. I wish there were a similar device to help me sort out a bin of LEDs--all clear, but different colors.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 4 жыл бұрын
The neon company violet wand was exactly the same inside as the fetish one.
@tubastuff
@tubastuff 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigclivedotcom Yup--and they're still made--you can buy them on Amazon. Back when I was experimenting with the then-new helium-neon lasers, I borrowed one from a friend--whose mother owned a beauty parlor. It worked well to test that the gases were right.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 4 жыл бұрын
@@tubastuff They seem to call them darsonval units now. Don't use a metal rod electrode in them though. I made a video about one.
@RedFathom
@RedFathom 4 жыл бұрын
made a string of Christmas lights out of some of those colored neon tubes they are very nice.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 4 жыл бұрын
I've got a video about making strings of neon lights.
@RedFathom
@RedFathom 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigclivedotcom yeah, I made a 110v version. the coloured ones are really nice. I got one of those sets on eBay with the red white blue green, and yellow lights.
@johnm2012
@johnm2012 4 жыл бұрын
I'm old enough to remember the 555 first becoming available. It's truly a great chip but I seem to remember the 741 op amp pre-dating it.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 4 жыл бұрын
The 741 is about 53 years old.
@clarencegreen3071
@clarencegreen3071 4 жыл бұрын
Anybody here old enough to remember the 709 op amp? You had to have used a 709 to properly appreciate a 741.
@Tassie-Devil
@Tassie-Devil 3 жыл бұрын
Q. regarding frequency: Unless I misunderstood, the 555 is toggling the transistor at low frequency (looking at the 2 x 10uF caps)... so what determines the RF frequency of the transformer driver?
@SkyChaserCom
@SkyChaserCom 4 жыл бұрын
So cool. Good ole' Nikola Tesla :) Looks like a solution state Tesla / Oudin flyback type coil. Like a scaled down violet ray device (with an oscillator instead of a spark gap). The 555 is a legendary timer chip.
@JimTheZombieHunter
@JimTheZombieHunter 4 жыл бұрын
Where the hell have I been? Had no idea that coloured "neons" (Actually UV mercury lamps with phosphor coated envelopes) had made some sort of a comeback. I still; have a few green scavenged from a 70's Betamax, and blue from fluoro lamp starters. Sorry Clive, I've been remiss .. busy with my bus build and work - haven't watched you in a while. As I recall you're a whiskey and cream soda man - myself straight Kentucky corn hooch and a cigar. A pleasure though to share a cup once again with you this fine evening.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 4 жыл бұрын
Also available in blue from the same seller:- www.ebay.co.uk/itm/382851356468
@888johnmac
@888johnmac 4 жыл бұрын
aah , good to see the pliers of knowledge being used
@icanfixit7179
@icanfixit7179 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question for big Clive where did you get those coloured mini neon lights
@redeye619
@redeye619 4 жыл бұрын
I've got a much new version of this, I use it to check fluro tubes that got mixed up, great to identify the different color temps
@girlsdrinkfeck
@girlsdrinkfeck 4 жыл бұрын
reminds me when i used to put one hand on a plasma coil lamp and hold a CFbulb in the the and itll glow
@SarahC2
@SarahC2 Жыл бұрын
2 years back! I missed this one. Clive, when you said capacitive coupling is used through the batteries as the return from the HV antenna... (I don't know much about antennas and things) I read elsewhere that the "right" frequency of electric past a non-grounded wire (antenna) in a circuit "leaks" the electric out into the air due to radio emission... so would some of the HV coming from the antenna be from radio emissions? Not needing a "return" path?
@Streamtronics
@Streamtronics 4 жыл бұрын
wondering if this is cheaper than just using an NE556 which I believe is basically two NE555 in one package
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice use for a Rf jammer @BigCliveDotCom
@DarthBlazer.
@DarthBlazer. 4 жыл бұрын
The term is bi-stable latch, I designed a very similar circuit in college for a reaction time tester based on a 555 driving 10 or so LEDs. Don't remember as much as I wish I did though!
@carlswenson5403
@carlswenson5403 4 жыл бұрын
just now learning about the ti555 thingy .. any chance you could do more content about this chip?
@frinkemon
@frinkemon 4 жыл бұрын
Only Big Clive would have that many neon bulbs!... And a special tester.
@CoolerQ
@CoolerQ 4 жыл бұрын
Those are definitely not the "other naughty uses" I was expecting you to talk about ;)
@PyroRob69
@PyroRob69 4 жыл бұрын
555's used to be something everyone kept in their stock parts. So many people out there have no idea how to use them any more.
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice breakdown on the 555 chip as well as the complete circuit very retro Build very reliable setup @BigCliveDotCom
@spokehedz
@spokehedz 4 жыл бұрын
Ahh... So now I understand the cascaded timers... Clever.
@chriskidder1781
@chriskidder1781 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Clive! Random question, ive been researching induction brazing. What im seeing is the eddi current almost backfeed into the induction coil being used, im fairly convinced i am just lacking the proper power supply as the power i am using is 110v 1000 watts, however im curious if its possible to get it working in a more portable fashion?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 4 жыл бұрын
There are various induction coil kits, but for very high power use it really requires mains power and water cooling of the coils.
@matthewmiller6068
@matthewmiller6068 4 жыл бұрын
You should check out the florescent tube testers like that! Never knew it existed until someone brought one to work to show off...
@CollectiveSoftware
@CollectiveSoftware 4 жыл бұрын
Have you tried it on fluorescents? Also, if you have a plasma ball, it's basically same thing (high voltage RF) and you can play with neon tubes and fluoros
@martinda7446
@martinda7446 4 жыл бұрын
PS That was a brilliant one Clive.
@jkobain
@jkobain 4 жыл бұрын
Look who's there. With his lovely beard!
@T2D.SteveArcs
@T2D.SteveArcs 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Clive there is no transformer as such in a slot jammer it's just a primary wound onto the secondary antenna perpendicular one end of the secondary drives the gate of a rf fet and the other is OP antenna more of an air core Tesla coil deal also they usually use around 36v or more and have a more powerful op if u want one I have one could send you to show.. good work on the best yt taredown channel ...
@aaabeverages7152
@aaabeverages7152 4 жыл бұрын
Clive: can you use copper screen to block the EMF from this tool? E.g. Shield your equipment that you may have on your person, and still detect faulty neon.
@sparkyprojects
@sparkyprojects 4 жыл бұрын
My first oscillator circuit was the astable multivibrator, my second was the 555. I wonder why they didn't use the 556 (dual 555) The 3 divider resistors in the 555 are all 5k, but the inventor says that's not how it got it's number.
@johnpossum556
@johnpossum556 4 жыл бұрын
How did it supposedly get its # then?
@sparkyprojects
@sparkyprojects 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnpossum556 No idea, the wiki article says "Hans Camenzind has stated that the part number was arbitrary, thus it was simply a coincidence they matched"
@johngrant5749
@johngrant5749 4 жыл бұрын
My first thought too why a 556 wasn’t used.
@hotgluegunguy
@hotgluegunguy 4 жыл бұрын
I would imagine that there are more "fake" 555s in circulation than 556s, so it might have been a few cents cheaper to do it this way.
@victornpb
@victornpb 4 жыл бұрын
You should test this agains those fancy electronic door locks!!
@youliantroyanov2941
@youliantroyanov2941 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome. This so useful. Want.
@trevorhaddox6884
@trevorhaddox6884 4 жыл бұрын
Joe's Classic Arcade channel found and discussed one of those anti-jammer antenna circuits he found in an old pong game.
@kingsman428
@kingsman428 4 жыл бұрын
Not surprised, I worked in that industry for 25 years and high voltage generators were the bane of an engineer's life because fraudsters used them to inject HV into video games and fruit machines causing the processor to freak out with the intent of free credits or trying to get the hopper to empty itself.
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a pack of 50x NE555p ICs recently, just to play with really, one of the oldest ICs still in production but still providing entertainment even here in the 20s... :D
@youwilldisobey
@youwilldisobey 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent ..... Excellent dear Ming my naughty thanks
@Chris_Grossman
@Chris_Grossman 4 жыл бұрын
What frequency does the 555 run at? What frequency does the astable multivibrator run at?
@ProfessorYana
@ProfessorYana 4 жыл бұрын
> RF-based neon tube tester that can be used to crash certain kinds of electronics *[THE PAYDAY GANG has entered the chat]*
@plaws0
@plaws0 4 жыл бұрын
Lol! c.1977, the local CB Radio shop sold "Tenna Toppers". Neon bulb, inch and a half of plastic tube, and a $5 price tag (or whatever it was back in the day that was much higher than the BOM would indicate). They were pretty neat going down the road but played hell with your antenna systes standing wave ratio. Fun times. Any idea what frequency this thing was transmitting on?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure the frequency. I seem to recall the antenna toppers maybe having one lead folded up and one down?
@lacossanostra
@lacossanostra 4 жыл бұрын
will the neon on of pulsing tube tester also work on a crook tube??
@BrianSu
@BrianSu 4 жыл бұрын
This is just a tesla coil isn't it? I've got a mini tesla coil that does exactly that.
@gavincurtis
@gavincurtis 4 жыл бұрын
Clive showing off his colored little neons. I had to order some after this.
@rysacroft
@rysacroft 4 жыл бұрын
I did not know that neons came in any colour other than red. That's why I love Clive's channel. Is it Neon or some other gas inside?
@gavincurtis
@gavincurtis 4 жыл бұрын
@@rysacroft that is a Clive question. I suspect different gases and phosphor combinations like conventional neon sign tubes. I got the color assortment from Amazon.
@taylorhealy7889
@taylorhealy7889 2 жыл бұрын
would it be possible to modify the circuit to supply continuous power instead of flashing?
@electroshed
@electroshed 4 жыл бұрын
Oooh I do like those blue neons !
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 4 жыл бұрын
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/362591136761
@mrnmrn1
@mrnmrn1 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with these colour neons (other than the orange/red verisons which are not phosphor based), they fail quite soon. They can fail within a year in 24/7 operation. Alhough I've seen green ones last 5-8 years in fridges.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrnmrn1 I always under run them with a higher value resistor.
@jonathancrow626
@jonathancrow626 4 жыл бұрын
Where did you get all the neon bulbs? I am having trouble finding them...
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 4 жыл бұрын
eBay. My preferred ones are 6mm by 16mm:- www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=100pcs+neon+lamp&_sacat=0&_sop=15
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