BIGGEST BOMBS VS ANTI-AIR OF TIME PERIODS (SPAA) - How Well Can They Do? - WAR THUNDER

Hey guys! Welcome back to the Thunder with Muffin channel. A new challenge in War Thunder is waiting for you in this video BIGGEST BOMBS (12,000 lbs + 5,000 lbs) DROPPED BY LANCASTER AND PE-8 against SPAA of DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS!!! Stay tuned!
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USA bombers
Dive SB2U-2 · SB2U-3 · SBD-3 · SB2C-1C · SB2C-4
Torpedo TBD-1 · PBY-5 Catalina · PBY-5A Catalina · TBF-1C · BTD-1
Medium B-10B · B-18A · B-34 · PV-2D · B-25J-1 · B-25J-20 · A-26C-45 · A-26C-45DT · B-26B
Heavy B-17E · B-17E/L · B-17G-60-VE · PB4Y-2 · B-24D-25-CO · B-29A-BN
Hydroplanes OS2U-1 · OS2U-3 · PBM-1 "Mariner" · PBM-3 "Mariner"
Germany bombers
Arado Ar 196 A-3
Blohm & Voss BV 138 C-1 · BV 238
Dornier Do 17 E-1 · Do 17 Z-2 · Do 217 E-2 · Do 217 E-4 · Do 217 K-1 · Do 217 M-1
Focke-Wulf Fw 189 A-1 · Fw 200 C-1
Henschel Hs 123 A-1
Heinkel He 111 H-3 · He 111 H-6 · He 111 H-16 · He 177 A-5
Junkers Ju 87 B-2 · Ju 87 R-2 · Ju 87 R-2 Libya · Ju 87 D-3 · Ju 87 D-5 · Ju 88 A-1 · Ju 88 A-4 · Ju 188 A-2 · Ju 288 C
Messerschmitt Me 264
Savoia-Marchetti S.M.79 serie 1 · S.M.79 B · S.M.79 serie 4 · S.M.79 serie 8
S.M.79 AS · S.M.79 bis/N · S.M.79 bis/T.M
Trophies Wellington Mk Ic
USSR bombers
SB and Ar SB 2M-100 · SB 2M-103 · SB 2M-103 MV-3 · SB 2M-103U · SB 2M-103U MV-3 · SB 2M-105 · Ar-2
Yer-2 (petrol) Yer-2 (M-105) · Yer-2 (M-105) TAT · Yer-2 (M-105R) TAT · Yer-2 (M-105R) LU
Yer-2 (diesel) Yer-2 (ACh-30B) (e) · Yer-2 (ACh-30B) (l)
Tu Tu-2 · Tu-2S · Tu-2S-44 · Tu-2S-59 · Tu-4
Pe Pe-2-1 · Pe-2-31 · Pe-2-83 · Pe-2-110 · Pe-2-205 · Pe-2-359 · Pe-8
IL DB-3B · IL-4
Po-2 · Po-2M · MBR-2-M-34 · TB-3M-17-32 · Yak-4 · Be-6
Lend-Lease ▂PBY-5A Catalina · ▂Hampden TB Mk I · ▂A-20G-30 · ▂B-25J-30
Britain bombers
Torpedo Swordfish Mk I · Swordfish Mk II · Avenger Mk II
Dive V-156-B1
Hydroplanes Catalina Mk IIIa · Sunderland Mk IIIa · Sunderland Mk V
Light Blenheim Mk IV · Beaufort Mk VIII · Hudson Mk V · Brigand B 1
Based on A20 Havoc Mk I · Boston Mk I · DB-7
Hampden Hampden Mk I · Hampden TB Mk I
Wellington Wellington Mk Ic · Wellington Mk Ic/L · Wellington Mk III · Wellington Mk X
Halifax Halifax B Mk IIIa
Stirling Stirling B Mk I · Stirling B Mk III
Lancaster Lancaster B Mk I · Lancaster B Mk III
Lincoln Lincoln B Mk II
Shackleton Shackleton MR.Mk.2
Italy bombers
Fiat B.R.20DR · B.R.20M M1
Savoia-Marchetti S.81 · S.M.79 serie 1 · S.M.79 B · S.M.79 serie 8 · S.M.79 AS · S.M.79 bis/T.M
CANT Z.1007 bis serie 3 · Z.1007 bis serie 5
Piaggio P.108B serie 1 · P.108B serie 2
German Ju 87 R-2 · Ju 87 D-3
France bombers
Farman F.222.2 · N.C.223.3
Latécoère Late 298D
Potez Potez 633
Liore et Olivier LeO 451 early · LeO 451 late
Bloch M.B.174A-3 · M.B.162 · M.B.175T
American V-156-F · Martin 167-A3 · A-35B · SB2C-5 · B-26C · PB4Y-2
Sweden bombers
B3 B3C
B17 B17A · B17B · S17BS
B18 B18A · B18B · T18B · T18B (57)
Finland Ar 196 A-5 · Ju 88 A-4
USA
M3 Half-track derivatives M13 MGMC · M15 CGMC · M16 MGMC
M24 derivative M19A1
M41 derivative M42
Radar SPAAG M163 · M247
Missile SPAA LAV-AD · XM975
Germany anti-aircraft vehicles
Wheeled Sd.Kfz.222
Half-track Sd.Kfz.251/21 · Sd.Kfz. 6/2
Flakpanzer IV Wirbelwind · Ostwind · Ostwind II · Kugelblitz
Other Flakpanzers Flakpanzer I · Flakpanzer 38 · Flakpanzer 341
Wiesel AWC Wiesel 1A4 · Ozelot
Radar SPAAG Gepard · Gepard 1A2
Missile SPAA FlaRakPz 1 · FlaRakRad
USSR
GAZ-AAA GAZ-AAA (4M) · GAZ-AAA (DShK)
Wheeled/Half-tracked GAZ-MM (72-K) · BTR-152A · ZiS-12 (94-KM) · ZiS-43
Radar SPAAG ZSU-23-4 · ZSU-37-2
SAM Strela-10M2 · 2S6 · Pantsir-S1
Other ZUT-37 · ZSU-37 · BTR-ZD · ZSU-57-2
Vietnam ▂Phòng không T-34
Czechoslovakia M53/59
Britain
Crusader AA Crusader AA Mk I · Crusader AA Mk II
Wheeled Staghound AA · AEC AA
Radar SPAAG Chieftain Marksman
Missile SPAA Stormer HVM
Other Light AA Mk I · Falcon
South Africa Ystervark · Bosvark · ZA-35
Canada Skink
Japan
Ke-Ni Derivatives Ta-Se · So-Ki
Wheeled Type 94
Tracked SUB-I-II
Radar SPAAG Type 87
Missile SPAA Type 93
USA M16 MGMC · M19A1 · M42
China anti-aircraft vehicles
Radar SPAAG PGZ09
Gun and Missile SPAAG PGZ04A
Other ZSD63/PG87 · WZ305
USA CCKW 353 (M45) · ␗M42
USSR Tor-M1
Vietnam Phòng không T-34
Italy anti-aircraft vehicles
R3 Capraia R3 T20 FA-HS
SIDAM 25 SIDAM 25 · SIDAM 25 (Mistral)
Wheeled AS 42 · CM52
Radar SPAAG OTOMATIC
Other M42 Contraereo
France anti-aircraft vehicles
Wheeled/Half-tracked P.7.T AA · CCKW 353 AA
Radar SPAAG AMX-30 DCA
Missile SPAA SANTAL · Roland 1 · ItO 90M
Other AMX-13 DCA 40
Sweden anti-aircraft vehicles
SPAA Pvlvv fm/42 · Lvtdgb m/40 · Pbv 301 · Lvkv 42
Radar SPAA VEAK 40 · Lvkv 9040C
SAM Lvrbv 701 · ASRAD-R
Finland L-62 ANTI II · ZSU-57-2 · ItO 90M · ItPsV 90

[@merafirewing6591]

When ww2 and cold war era Bombers go against modern SPAA it feels more like the last samurai.

[@geraldhuff7413]

60 to 1 the sword face the gun!

[@treestar22]

@@geraldhuff7413 Bushido dignified, it’s the last stand of the Samurai

[@the_mistery1999]

Surrendered and outnumbered

[@mkjust6960]

@@the_mistery1999 *surrounded

[@eagleriley]

@@the_mistery1999 60 to 1 The sword face the gun!!!

[@jamesday9356]

Last round looked like a lot of fun, sad I had to miss it but always cool to see what everyone try’s to bring to the table 💪

[@Hatfieldfarms44]

It wasn’t so fun as the Bombers, even after said no missiles they still used them,

[@Mach_Style]

15:44 was probably the most cinematic and is the best show for Rolling Thunder

[@daaavie]

We have the ‘Tallboy’ at 12,000 lbs, now we wait for War Thunder to add the ‘Grand Slam’ which is 22,000 lbs.

[@E.hexzor]

Not technically a 'tallboy' the 12000lb we have in game is a blockbuster bomb (high explosive not earthquake)

[@daaavie]

@@E.hexzor eh, close enough.

[@ShotPanz438]

I don't think we need a another big bomb...

[@daaavie]

@@ShotPanz438 are you SURE you don’t want a bomb that will essentially blow up half the map?

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

😂

[@AD45]

You are one of the best WT channels I could find. Keep up the good work!!

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Thank you!

[@Some_Guy987]

​@@ThunderWithMuffin Warthunder better be taking notes on your commentary. I think haveing 80 ft deep holes that are 100 ft across would be sick.

[@merafirewing6591]

The ww1 french behemoth versus the Russian T-35? Or just an all-out landship battle?

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

There is a landship battle vid coming out next:)

[@lukecope4144]

I fear no man but that thing, it scares me .

[@themanwhosucksatgames3078]

The last round got to be the most cinematic thing I have ever seen

[@supersyber7]

Using some math and a lot of assumptions. It seems the lancanster would have to fly about 600m or ~2000ft from the detonation of the 12000lber for there to be a high risk of destroying the aircraft. Of course even if you're above this limit, it still wouldn't be pleasant to be in the aircraft when the shockwave hit and any imperfections in construction may result in destruction. At 3300m or ~10800ft there would still be violent shaking as described by that ww2 pilot.

[@ericmarsha2103]

Bombers didn't stand a chance that first chaos round, great work work ppl! Keep it up Muffin. That last battle was insane absolute work of art muffin

[@MPdude237]

Excellent video. I always enjoy AA vs Aircraft episodes, especially seeing Modern AAs Flex their muscles. May I reccomend a few ones? Unguided Helicopters vs WW2 AA (+ unguided post-war AA if the patrons want it). I would like to see how rank 1 AA would perform against starter Helis, rank 1+2 vs 9.3 BR Helis, and all WW2 AA vs top tier Helis. I am aware that some early Helis only have ATGMs and maybe rifle Cal MGs so ATGMs could be used within 1KM of the map edge. I would also like to see players relying only on tanks with roof MGs.

[@adamklasa7270]

I am suprised that no one used Bosvark or other South African vehicles. Nice video, like an always

[@sinisterisrandom8537]

War thunder never modeled Shockwave into the game. Not to the extent that it effects planes at those altitudes

[@ShawnF6FHellcat]

It's almost like it would destroy CAS gameplay and make Ground RB fun again...

[@morbidlyobesecat7829]

​@@ShawnF6FHellcat fr gaijin making something that makes us Happy? Never

[@ShawnF6FHellcat]

@@morbidlyobesecat7829 Exactly

[@MiGLifeCrisis]

​@@ShawnF6FHellcat it's almost like SPAA exist ...

[@ShawnF6FHellcat]

@@MiGLifeCrisis And when has SPAA made enough of a difference with pre Cold War vehicles, where most players are at?

[@spingebill8551]

Bombers destroying themselves were a very real concern. Here in Canada, we had a local Lancaster pilot WW2 veteran who got awarded medals because he flew so low his plane was at risk of being destroyed by his own bombs.

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Interesting!

[@Halcyon1861]

The only video game I play anymore is Tecmo Super Bowl on my phone. But I like watching these.

[@dumpsterfire42]

Yeea a muffin vid!!!

[@brisngrfiftysix6085]

Pretty amazing just how cinematic this game can be.

[@vangestelwijnen]

Epic! That last round was great! I've seen action movies of lesser quality.

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Thank you!

[@merafirewing6591]

@@ThunderWithMuffin it's better than any action movie.

[@Questionableskills]

The fab 5000 on the Pe-8 is not a 5000 pound bomb its 5000 kg which in pounds is about 11000 so the Lancaster's bomb is not much larger

[@panzer4801]

You should try a army of 88 flacks against bombers or dive bombers

[@AnotherGamer1911]

Good video as always. Never fails to impress.

[@shadowwolf5549]

The cinematics are amazing in these videos, each one is like a movie.

[@STRYKER_b14]

6:30 round 2 11:40 chaos round

[@warfighter3128]

Love the amount of BOOM we got hehe. Your content is always fun to watch!

[@johncee853]

You'd be a great narrator for military type shows like they've had on the History Channel and the like. Like Justin, you have a wonderful speaking voice! Love these vids, you gotta do the battle of Kursk! If you already haven't.

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Thank you!

[@yeoldsherman4121]

man with that music, seeing that B-36 and the B-25 coming in hot getting there bombs off just before they get set ablaze and crash just hit different for some reason

[@billcollecter4728]

That lav ad shooting down that plane with the hydras was awesome

[@Omba820]

At this point im not gonna be surpised if a genuine good movie uses warthunder for some scenes

[@rawchicken3463]

I was waiting for this video, knew it would come Now you should do hide and seek with the 12kers

[@kapitan.serdel3657]

this last round is very cinematic and good

[@zohaibtariq7351]

Amazing video

[@joshd8508]

awesome watch

[@bpop2148]

I thought you would test how good each era of spaa is at intercepting the bomb/bombs

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Basically all time periods of SPAA that don’t use SAM missiles is going to struggle because bombers can stay at a height that most SPAA machine guns or some cannons can’t reach

[@maverickbeneteau2674]

The flack 88 German trucks vrs b-17 bomber. Max flight height be 1500m so its easier for the timed fused of the 88s

[@Hatfieldfarms44]

8:22 LOOK MA IM ON BIG SCREEN

[@carol7311]

Hmmmmm how about trying the biggest bombs against the Navy? (Totally not asking to see Scharnhorst given the Tirpitz treatment of getting a 12k Bomb to the deck*

[@flamebreaker4340]

This is very funny, you can destroy the bomb with the ship aa when you lucky.

[@tdub1776]

This is actually insane

[@LightningYtpl]

Your best video so far

[@timewarper9575]

this was so fun to play

[@Hatfieldfarms44]

The fun part is watching the bomb fall and then hearing the boom, it also very fun when you see your self in the game

[@Mis_ter]

Lmao I didn’t even realize it was war thunder until I saw the map

[@rexy132]

surprised to see a lack of the radar shells fired by the sarge york and the largest boy from italy with that 76mm

[@iandewey6813]

God I loved this video

[@liamseven1604]

it is only three 4000lb bombs bolted together so the blast isn't technically that much in war thunder terms.

[@TripleRRRock]

The 12000 pound bomb is known as the "Tall Boy" or Medium Capacity Earthquake Bomb was used to destroy the La Coupole V-weapon site in Wizernes, France, 1944

[@trojon8699]

we need the medium capacity 22,000 lb (10,000kg) Grand Slam it would be insane

[@TripleRRRock]

@@trojon8699 agreed, lmao it would probably break the game XD

[@ssgtstroh2742]

The one in WT is a 12000lb blockbuster they are two different bombs

[@TripleRRRock]

@@ssgtstroh2742 uhhhh incorrect, the blockbuster bomb was a 4000-8000 pound bomb, yes the added an additional 4000 punds to it to make it the 12000 pound but that when it was named the earthquake bomb or "Tall Boy"

[@lordwintertown8284]

@@TripleRRRock But they're right the 12000lb HC Blockbuster & the 12000lb Tallboy are two completely different weapons, Just boot up a picture online and compare their shape as the Blockbuster is three 4000lb bombs bolted together while the Tallboy is a single piece bomb in a streamline shape for better ground penatration.

[@simselmore5625]

Just want to point out that the R3 T20 wasn't developed until 1970 and was still allowed during the second round

[@Add12pack]

Ww2 convoy ambush?

[@kriskay5020]

I so want to join in with the fun but being a West Aussie the time difference just doesn't allow it

[@kebaab_]

Do a battle between m22s and mbts. Love these kind of videos keep it up😀😀

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Thank you!

[@gasorefleury1578]

good video

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Thank you

[@toasteroven6761]

Question, what's the name of the music at 17:10? Really speaks to sacrifice, love, loss, and 'the needs of the many.'

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4CZdpWJj72cick

[@bpshark8172]

​@@ThunderWithMuffin what's the name of the music at 13:54?

[@DOGisPL]

8:36 "Here we see the AA going CQC with the enemy aircraft."

[@asiangaming8409]

I would love to see having 88flak shoot down B-17s during the day and Lancaster during the night

[@billwhoever2830]

Modern air threats can fly on high altitude to avoid spaa. Strike drones can fly 5000-7000meters high while bombers typicaly fly 12000-15000meters high. Short range missiles cannot cover such high altitudes and modern sensors-guided bombs make sure you can strike from such altitude. The problem for the bombers is that they are very exposed to long range SAMs like the s300, s400 and Patriot. SPAA is still useful for self defense-point defense of high value targets. SPAA can also be used against helicopters, gliding munitions and cruise missiles which typicaly fly low to avoid long range SAMs. Without the good old SPAAs the long range SAMs are completely exposed.

[@fameuzko6000]

U should do a video where phong kong t-34's vs vietnam war helicopters

[@ShawnF6FHellcat]

I'd of chosen the SPAA team. I'm very proficient with early game SPAA (up to about 6.0 BR), and it is quite evident to me that many of the players that ran SPAA in the first round were not. I would have probably gone with either the Russian Yag-10, or the British or French vehicles with 40mm Bofors. I think the biggest mistake I saw people make in that round was using self destroying rounds, as they (at least the German ones) mostly detonate at around 1600 meters, which is way too low for most of the bombers there.

[@michaeljep9461]

Now you need to do yag-10s vs a fleet of large bombers

[@pineccone]

One of the funniest event i joined!

[@shiweicai4872]

Love the music in the chaos round reminds you of the bomber pilots who lost their lives due to flak and AA just to try and end WW2

[@claudiocarchedi6060]

Somebody wanna talk about the KV-2 on the Night time Caos round?

[@noahsawesomevids422]

Holy craz

[@iatethemuffinman9127]

Britain be like: *Alright lads, let’s show ‘em why we only have solid shot.*

[@shikikanaz4624]

Next you should a battles of just variants of m60s and m48s

[@timhoppert15]

can you do some thing with the fritz x it would be soooooo cool

[@manhvo242]

12:15 soviet bias

[@cptfrostbite]

In the normsndy battle i was the last person left and it was efibg scary when like 5 bombers were flying around in the air above me

[@ApokalyptikNM]

When I was playing the British firefly tank on that map where literally everything is destroyed (it has a park in the middle) I forgot the name, anyway i saw a pe8 coming my way and I took cover next to a dead prespawned tank and the bomb landed about 100ft from me, the other 2 firefly tanks dead and somehow I survived a 5000kg bomb at close ish range..

[@harryborg4980]

Have you tried Sherman fireflies vs tigers as the British called the firefly the tiger killer

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Not yet:)

[@counterpl2508]

16:56 bro i thought we all agreed to not use death ray its too op!

[@quaintmangaming3023]

This is the great battle for Tanker's independence from CAS. We want our own CAS free game mode!

[@Some_Guy987]

I think this but with the german gliding anti-ship bomb would be interesting

[@arbiter54]

MY CATALINA MADE INTO THE VIDEO!!! Thanks Muffin. ( it took 2 missiles somehow)

[@Cubingnerd1]

Bro never Fails to point unfair battles

[@NotTheBomb]

Bruh, I feel like the algorithm just kicked you out of search man. These videos use to get so many views!!! Did like a couple of the ‘weirder’ ones have people click off? Like some of the boat ones? Big sad man, love the videos. My favorite is the T-72 versus German Heavies! That was cool asf!

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Yeah some do better then others. Watch hours, like and vid Watch duration is all doing great though. Desert storm and Abrams vs Maus almost 100k which is nice

[@NotTheBomb]

@@ThunderWithMuffin glad things are still looking good on your end!

[@rileydoesstuff8157]

SO MANY WHIRBEL WIND

[@Commander_Koyke]

Do a flak 88 vs bombers using vt fuze.

[@joaovrogogo4379]

Suggestion 90+ B17 bombers VS 50 ww2 SPAA

[@Rlgod448]

Can you do f4u’s vs battle ships?

[@lordwintertown8284]

Good day, Hm observations of the last round but if the Yakovlev Yak-28B Brewer had flown to 15000 metres there would've been a chance it would never had gotten shot down while yeeting it's FAB-3000 everywhere, Similar the The Republic F-105 Thunderchief might have had some success fooling the SPAAG/SAM's if they took chaff with them. A thing to note on the Blockbuster bomb is while the name holds true that it could completely destroy a block depending on the construction of said area, The real damaging part was the shockwave it caused resulting in heavily cracked infrastructure along with broken windows and destroyed roofs all of this goes in hand with incendiary weapons as example the fire bombing of Dresden with all the damage caused by the Blockbusters the incendiary bomblets would fall in place of the damage and burn the town houses from within... Sidenote since the update the Avro Cookiecaster losted it's ability to carry 2× cookies RIP, hopefully they're readded and or made into a ×3 bombload.

[@zohaibtariq7351]

Requesting for navy vs this bomb

[@EXSF-1]

3:32 why is that so funny?

[@nukamarxa5203]

Lancaster my beloved

[@-YukiKosmo-]

Shooting the high altitude Bombers with SPAAs feels list shooting arrows at a phantom.

[@Slungus_bunny69]

I want them to add the 22,000 lb "Grand Slam"

[@kaihombrink9296]

I was the only Pantsir-S1 in the match, yes it was very fun 😅

[@MyNameIs_Chris]

Did anyone see the kv2 on the right at 12:10

[@PzkpfwTigerAusfHmitcmKwKTigerI]

In 1:01 there is a mistake and instead of "Chaos" there is "Choas"

[@Supercat449]

Lol

[@vladpashkov2738]

17:22 that is what war hunder should be

[@Brick_Building]

TB-3 be like: what was that? I think our landing gear fell off.

[@jetstream504]

Something I always forget is that the US F 22 and a 10 were like made in 1980 to 1990

[@nekoboi_pl]

could you do similar video but with 8,8 cm Flak instead of SPAA? It would be cool to see this HE exploding

[@madcat789]

Now I'm wondering how Helicopters vs. Biplanes would look.

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

I did a vid on that not too long ago:)

[@madcat789]

@@ThunderWithMuffin Ah, thank you! I will go search it at once.

[@Mmjk_12]

Even more crazy that the UK had an even bigger bomb for its Lancasters that weighed nearly twice as much as the bomb we just got...

[@Codm_and_Codw_shorts.]

Imagine a random guy joins in and then drops the nuke

[@carterryerson832]

The Pe-8's bomb isn't 5 000 lbs it's 5,000 kg, which is 11,000 lbs.

[@B.a.k.e.d.b.e.a.n.s.]

Idea amphibious tanks vs costal defence

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

I think we did try that somewhat recently. The vid is live on my channel:)

[@adimaiuniversal4361]

As an spaa main not a single bomber dared not toget close to me

[@Chepstowion_Adventura]

Cause the shock wave being felt from plane hasn’t been implemented in the game yet.

[@bpshark8172]

What's the name of music at 13:55

[@spyfoxy6306]

Pls do modern aa vs ww2 aa