Biggest Logistical Flex Of All Time - Berlin Airlift by The Fat Electrician - Reaction

[@enoughothis]

The ultimate irony is that the airport they had to use was Tempelhof, which had been built by the Nazis to be a grand extensive airport fit for the world's capital city, as of course Berlin would be after they conquered the world. So a monument to Hitler's ego helped to save the people of Berlin from starving after the Nazis' dream had been reduced to ashes. A shrine to oppression became a beacon for hope.

[@Mrsalt7500]

The universe is often poetic like that.

[@thorshammer7883]

That's freewill for ya to problem solve with tenacity. Yahuah Elohim sure did know what he was doing when he made man in his image.

[@b3rz3rk3r9]

The Good Lord really knows how to make a poetic twist sometimes, and only in hindsight can we realize just such a twist in these turns of events.

[@Isolder74]

@@b3rz3rk3r9 You get one guess on who eventually ended up commander of the airbase.

[@b3rz3rk3r9]

@Isolder74 I don't know. I mean, that isn't narrowed down since it continued operations up til 2008

[@anzaca1]

This is a logistical feat that Guilliman himself would be impressed by.

[@b3rz3rk3r9]

Guilliman would look at this and say, "Write that down! WRITE THAT DOWN!!!"

[@dakotalange2858]

And Peter Turbo too

[@TrazynPrime]

Guilliman would be the type of guy to cite cold war era logistics to prove that we can do something 😂

[@lorddrake2219]

@@dakotalange2858 peter would be beating the Soviets with a belt acting like an Ashamed dad. "You disgraceful little shits!" that's all I keep imagining him saying as he whoops the Kremlin's ass with a belt.

[@slyoldowl]

Guilliman probably has this in some archive on maccrage

[@carbonwolf3865]

12:04 English computers: "this is impossible" US air force: "a'ight, bet."

[@Isolder74]

More like Truman says we are doing this, we are going to do this so make it work.

[@anlydaly5726]

The CANDY BOMBER 🍬 is my favorite part of this story ... just a random act of kindness that just spiraled into becoming one of the most memorable parts of the biggest humanitarian effort in history ... just ... legendary

[@Isolder74]

Because a group of kids did not fight over two sticks of gum.

[@ranekeisenkralle8265]

And as far as I am aware the adults who back then were the the kids getting these treats do still fondly remember this as a moment of joy during times of hardship. This act of kindness has not been forgotten.

[@Isolder74]

@@ranekeisenkralle8265 I hope it is never forgotten and the fact he did it all on his own without anyone telling him to. He saw a way to help others feel happier and then just did it. He knew he might get into trouble but did it anyway. Other pilots in his squadron saw how good it felt so they wanted to do it too but not as often as Hal did. When Hal got called into his commander’s office both he and his squadron commander assumed Hal was in big trouble especially seeing Tunner had called the squadron wanting to know what was going on and who was behind it. Of course it seemed the only one in the squadron who didn’t know what was going on was his commander seeing the rest of the pilots were happy to say this was all Hal. Reporting to Tunner’s office Hal was expecting to be court marshaled and be forced to stop only for Tunner to shake his hand and commend him for his wonderful PR idea and be told I want everyone to do this and I’m putting you in charge, that is after doing a press tour because I want as much support for this airlift as possible. Then he sent Hal to work. It was after the press tour that the public and the candy companies got involved.

[@ranekeisenkralle8265]

@@Isolder74 as I said, it has not been forgotten. What future generations are going to do or not do, however, i cannot say. But if the disdain we see in the currently young generation toward the deeds of those who came before them is any indication, there is a certain risk of your concerns being accurate as time goes on.

[@weldonwin]

Something else to add to this. The part about British kids raising money to buy candy for the kids of Berlin, bare in mind that Britain was still under rationing at this point and still would be for another decade. So just imagine being a Kid in London at that time, a city that had the crap bombed out if during the war, you probably spent a good chunk of those years living out of bomb shelters and maybe even lost friends and family. And then, you find it in your heart to scrape together what money you can, to buy some candy, to send to some children in Berlin. That restores my faith in humanity.

[@brigidtheirish]

Their homes were bombed out, but their hearts sure weren't. They could recognize that the Berlin kids were suffering like they were and knew they would've wanted someone dropping candy instead of bombs.

[@Isolder74]

@@brigidtheirish😊All because one man decided to be kind.

[@brigidtheirish]

@@Isolder74 Yep. The great thing about capitalism is that people not only can *choose* to be kind, but can save up the *means* to be kind. No one's deciding how much you actually "need" and taking the rest for "redistribution."

[@theneverwhere6076]

@@brigidtheirish Except when corporations also control entirety of your healthcare system, we can clearly see how wholesome it is in USA with that one.

[@brigidtheirish]

@@theneverwhere6076 Ah, but there's *more than one* corporation. The government would be a monopoly and thus not pressured to innovate or improve care. The problems that exist in the USA healthcare system exist in every other Western healthcare system in one way or another. If it isn't inability to pay, it's lack of facilities in the area or the care plan assigned to the individual not covering something needed. Or the person *can* get in, but isn't given the care required. Maybe no care is given because the doctor claims none is necessary. Maybe care is given, but it's the *wrong* care. Having to pay for services isn't the problem.

[@wantondstrction]

"Why watch something you already know about?" Because I might learn an interesting new detail through someone else's telling of the story. Or just to laugh at the USSR again.

[@adrianbyrdziak5130]

A few months before the end of this operation, NATO was officially established. And I don't think many people realize what an achievement this is. A continent that has been fighting for practically the entire history, where every country has some quarrels and problems with its neighbors... suddenly everyone signed this agreement. Regardless of whether you liked your neighbor or not, suddenly you were not against each other, but working together. Because the communists have shown that they are able to starve an ENTIRE CITY to achieve their goals. And nothing unites us like a common enemy

[@prestonjones1653]

Not just able, everybody was able, and did during the last two wars, but GLEEFULLY WILLING during a time of PEACE.

[@InstrucTube]

Agreed. Especially the last sentence there. It'd be great if we could all stop the global dick-measuring contest and actually get stuff taken care of, but I doubt it will happen unless an outside force, like hostile aliens, were to invade. So yeah, likely not any time soon, if ever.

[@AnonD38]

A common enemy brings out the best and worst in humans.

[@Shaun_Jones]

You should check out Paper Skies. He’s a guy who talks about Aviation, in particular Soviet aviation; he actually grew up in Soviet Ukraine, and his dad flew MiG-23s for the Soviet Air Force, so he has first-hand experience with how the system worked. He’s got a video on how 16 Soviet admirals accidentally committed mass suicide with oranges and newspaper, and a more uplifting story about an airliner forced to fly around the world.

[@aaronhenley4741]

Gives a new meaning to Warheads on Foreheads if warheads candy existed back then. So…Skittles on Littles?

[@brigidtheirish]

Skittles were first sold in 1974. I like the rhyme, though.

[@aaronhenley4741]

@@brigidtheirish in that case how about Kisses for Kinders?

[@Isolder74]

Or we can go with raisin bombers or what the General called it Operation Little Vittles.

[@brigidtheirish]

@@aaronhenley4741 Change it to Kinder (as it's already plural) and your *gold.*

[@ranekeisenkralle8265]

@@brigidtheirish unless the intention was to go for Plattdeutsch: "Kinners" ;-) Either way, close enough to get the point across.

[@rnukes]

C-17 Globemaster III can carry 77 tons of stuff which is triple the cargo capacity of the biggest plane in the Berlin Airlift. All the West needs is someone in need and a reason to help. Side note The West has been shipping literally everything to Ukraine for almost 2 years so I'd argue we are doing this.

[@Shaun_Jones]

C5 Galaxies alone carried more tonnage in the first 21 days of Operation Desert Shield than was carried in the entire Berlin Airlift

[@BerserkerLuke]

I think he more so meant politically. The planes obviously can carry more, but more than likely Republicans would whine and cry about how we're spending all this money on other nations and not America, even though they absolutely would just funnel it to some military project or something if it weren't going there. They already try to do this with Ukraine, and although I don't know the number of supplies we fly there, I guarantee it would be more if they didn't constantly try and sabotage Ukraine with their isolationism.

[@Isolder74]

@@Shaun_Jones The day after 9-11 Hill Air Force Base loaded up the Ogden, Layton and Clearfield FD’s disaster and hazardous rescue teams trucks and everything into one C-5 and they were helping try to rescue people that next day.

[@asteropax6469]

@@BerserkerLukeI guess you didn’t hear what happened when we were providing relief supplies to Puerto Rico after they experienced a disaster. Years after the supplies were delivered, we are still hearing of warehouses where supplies were being laundered and hoarded by the Puerto Rican government. There have been reports from the Ukraine of similar scandals by government officials laundering supplies and money we have been providing them. Everyone agrees we have to be charitable so long as resources are being used for the people we are intending to help.

[@BerserkerLuke]

@asteropax6469 Gonna be honest, this comment of mine is pretty old and I don't fully remember the context. But unless I'm missing something, even if what you said is true, those are post-action excuses for things they were arguing from nearly the beginning. I can see how, if credible, that would annoy anyone, but they were arguing against supplying Ukraine from just a couple weeks in. That's not even getting into the fact that I think it is reasonable to expect a degree of corruption in a post-soviet country, and that it's still worth the risk as opposed to just throwing more money at the military-industrial complex. There's also the fact a lot of what we give them is old munitions, ones that we pay a lot just to store and not use. So in other ways, we're really not losing much. Don't know on the Puerto Rico bit though.

[@VunderGuy]

This is why all those idiots saying thr Soviets would have won operation unthinkable are stupid and hypocritical: they say that the Soviets win because logistics yet ignore the allies were the masters of logistics while the Soviets merely adopted it. By the first time the Soviets were going to partial motorization, the US and UK were spitting out trucks faster than an MG42 could spit out lead.

[@JonaRosalinaRose]

such masters of logistics that millions died in india during the war.

[@prestonjones1653]

​@@JonaRosalinaRose Because that was the U.S.'s fault, clearly. You were completely dependent on Henry Ford to keep your pathetic excuse for a snow tribe alive whether you admit it or not.

[@brigidtheirish]

And the Soviets were *shit* at adopting.

[@theneverwhere6076]

Yeah except Soviets absolutely dominated all european nations both technology and quantity wise for years to come with only USA rivaling it in some aspects, and sometimes only because they stole Soviet technologies to begin with. USSR had arguably the largest and strongest military in history of mankind, anyone who tries to portray it as some sort of backwards weak nation is obviously a f&cking idiot. Why would you need to establish largest military and economical alliance in history to fight off "bankrupt, weak and failed state"??? Soviets were so flawed you needed top 20 World economies to rival it?

[@thattigercat]

Never trust anything a tankie says, they have decided to self-identify as sub-human

[@brotherjorge3]

When you can measure your accomplishments in blue whales.

[@Isolder74]

Because anything is better then metric /jk.

[@nah-dx3wc]

@@Isolder74why is that a jk

[@damonbryan7232]

To think While all the aid and air lift going into Europe. An the logistics it took to pull it off. America was also providing aid and supplies to Japan, Korea, China, Philippines. With all the logistical nightmares that brings. With the same Soviet Union trying everything to disrupt it as well. To add even more to the logistical flex

[@shmee123ful]

Ahh the Beauty of the us, Britain and Germany joining forces to flip Russia the Middle finger and flex while they do it. It's a wonderful thing

[@Dallen9]

The Berlin Airlift took every aspect of Logistics that had been developed at that time to the extreme. The expertise of Railroading and loading/unloading boxcars to the literal birth of developing Air traffic control. This is the Himalayan pinnacle of what can achieved if everything we had was made to work at this scale.

[@Isolder74]

The Germans tried the same at Stalingrad, under fire of course, but their best cargo plane was the junkers. Even the C-47 has better capacity. Up until the Berlin Airlift the only other thing to this scale was supplying China over the Himalayas.

[@Dallen9]

@@Isolder74 When you talk about Air traffic control.. Logistically speaking it's hard to nail who was doing logistics better in World War 2 cause once America Entered the War the Logistics of what went down is just Mind boggling. There were Records set during WW2 that haven't been touched since.

[@Isolder74]

@@Dallen9 Well the Allies built two modular and disposable harbors just for D-Day just for starters. All during the war the Germans saw logistics as the bottom of their priorities. The Allies made it the top of their list something helped by the sheer numbers of trucks, half tracks and cargo ships they were cranking out by the day. It drove the Germans mad, as they’d sink one ship for ten more to roll up to take their place.

[@Dallen9]

@@Isolder74 It was what really hurt them in the end.

[@AnonD38]

@@Isolder74They definitely did not set logistics as their lowest priority. The quote "The amateurs discuss tactics, the real professionals discuss logistics." came from a German Officer and war hero of the Franco-German war. No, the real problem Germany had in WW2 was producing enough stuff to begin with. On the Eastern Front there were also logistical problems yes, but most of the things missing at the frontlines didn't even make it to the point that you had to worry about logistics. With the British denying the Germans all kinds of raw resources and the Americans bombing factories and refineries to ashes, there just wasn't enough stuff being made. Especially oil and rare metals were in high demand, but low supply. Better logistics would have not just created these resourced from thin air.

[@Huntress236]

The only way this is getting done today is if you call up the E4 Mafia. It'll be done by lunch

[@raymurray3401]

The part about this story that’s the craziest isn’t the story itself but instead it’s the fact that when were taught about the Berlin airlift in school we never actually learn about what actually made it such an incredible feat.

[@DavidStruveDesigns]

My school didn't even bother teaching about the awesome flex that was the Berlin Airlift. Oh we learned about the Berlin Wall alright, but weirdly (and unfortunately) not the events that lead to its creation. Which is honestly a crime against everyone that took part and made such an insane feat possible.

[@brothersgt.grauwolff6716]

I just learned of something both fascinating & terrifying recently released documents & letters showed the people of West Berlin were about to "unsubscribe" themselves in their belief that they had been left behind thankfully the first airlift arrived the day of the mass "unsubscribing" event that was supposed to take place that night giving the West Berlin people hope it's a horrifying thought that what if the airlift had started a day later 😱

[@TheCluelessLucent]

16:30 that laugh was positively primal 21:25. Pretty sure communist don't feel anything as far as I've been convinced.

[@heylolp9]

With all due Respect for the US Armed Forces The greatest superpower of the US is logistics The US shows up to your home with more Boats, Planes and Personal than you could dream of, and they all got all the equipment they need (- C Batteries)

[@vvbsnahakahsksjao]

I wasn't ready for the synced quack 😂

[@MIKE_F44]

FYI. TFE has a B channel on KZbin called THE FAT FILES.

[@ninjabearpress2574]

I knew about the Berlin Airlift, the USS O'Bannon and more than a few other stories before Fat Electrician did videos on them. He's fun to watch, and even more fun watching others enjoying TFE videos.

[@Plastikdoom]

We could pull it off today, the C-5 and C-17 each can carry an absurd amount. I know one Carry’s more, a little more, and that’s over 100tons per bird…plus all our C-130’s and big helos, CH-47’s and CH-53’s. Not to mention the shitty, but useable V-22’s. With those aircraft coming from just over 100 miles away…we could exceed their record…by an astronomical amount. I’m not discounting what they did back then at all, all I’m saying is we have very fancy and good birds…that can carry amounts they could only dream of, and go faster also, with strategic ranges, they could do multiple trips there and back with out refueling the big ones. We’d only need 130 flights a day with our biggest aircraft, that have systems specialized for rapid loading and unloading, hell, they wouldn’t even need to land these days, slow down and get lower, airdrop, power on and u turn, go back land pick up, rinse lather and repeat. Plus you know an AWACS controlling the air, and so many refueling tankers, so they’d never to refuel on the ground. Wasting time, they could refuel staggered on the way their and back, change crew when needed. While being loaded, zero wasted time. And if absolutely needed, we’d hot fuel on the ground. While their being loaded, woth palletized and cargo netted cargo. By forklifts. Hot fueling for those who don’t know, is a way to fuel military aircraft. Woth the engines still running, a pressurized method. So we could top off as much as possible until they are almost done loading, then stop, keep them topped off in the air and on the ground, non stop, never wasting time on fuel alone. The only ones that would have to land to unload, is the big helos, if they want maximum speed they’d have to carry cargo internally and no slung loads. Even then the 47’s and 52’s could do a rolling unload, then take off while moving both of those types can aerial refuel also…only a maintenance issue would slow them down, but even then, have back up birds waiting, would only need a few of type as back ups.

[@DavidStruveDesigns]

Don't forget about the insane aircraft that are the Super Guppy and the Beluga - those things honestly seem to defy physics with the sheer tonnage they can carry. Yes they're designed for specific shaped cargo, but I'm sure we could figure out how to tetris that stuff into shapes that would fit.

[@Isolder74]

Two words. Candy Bomber.

[@danielseelye6005]

Or as the German kids called him: Uncle Wiggly Wings. (He would waggle the wings of his plane so the kids would know it was him and get ready to accept Hershey greatness.)

[@Isolder74]

@@danielseelye6005The best part is that it all started because a group of 30 kids did not fight over two sticks of gum prompting him to want to do it in the first place.

[@Isolder74]

On a side note, I actually got to meet the man.

[@danielseelye6005]

​@@Isolder74 Very nice!

[@weldonwin]

Something else to add to this. The part about British kids raising money to buy candy for the kids of Berlin, bare in mind that Britain was still under rationing at this point and still would be for another decade. So just imagine being a Kid in London at that time, a city that had the crap bombed out if during the war, you probably spent a good chunk of those years living out of bomb shelters and maybe even lost friends and family. And then, you find it in your heart to scrape together what money you can, to buy some candy, to send to some children in Berlin. That restores my faith in humanity.

[@Rammstein0963.]

I love TFE, would love to get a beer with the guy and hear some stories. Having said that, it boggles the mind that we ever allowed the Berlin situation to exist as it did, the partition line should not have been past Berlin. P.S. Old Man Reacts I believe a similar incident to your "What would the world look like now?" Was explored in movie called "By Dawn's Early Light." About an misunderstanding actually causing a nuclear exchange.

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

Yeah... West Germany should have had a new capital city, but on the other hand, the Soviets doing this was such an amazing demonstration of their true colors, just as the airlift showed ours.

[@danielseelye6005]

@@RipOffProductionsLLC West Germany _did_ have a new capital: Bonn.

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

@@danielseelye6005 they what was the point of West Berlin?

[@danielseelye6005]

@@RipOffProductionsLLC Because Berlin _was_ the capital of the Reich and it needed to be split like Der Fatherland was. However, as the Iron Curtain went up the need for West Germany to have its own capital on its own land is what made them to set up Bonn.

[@MIKE_F44]

He’s a fun guy! I’ve met him.

[@susanwahl6322]

As a student of history, I had knowledge of this. I remember the Berlin Wall going up and I’m so glad that I saw it coming down.

[@revgurley]

The story you told at the beginning about the flock of birds - wasn't that the basis for the song "99 Luft Balloons?" The point being that something as simple as a flock of birds, or party balloons, could start WWIII.

[@MIKE_F44]

Quack Bang stress balls will available Jan 1st. Or now if you are on his Patreon.

[@Humpelstilzchen]

16:12 not simply true but True man 😂

[@fionawimber1028]

Your cat in the background is adorable!

[@randomlyentertaining8287]

The thing that will always be ironic to me is that the Germans of Berlin were saved by a tactic their own air force had been unable to do. During the Stalingrad air lift, the peak the luftwaffe was able to achieve was 362 tons on December 7, 1942. Even during the confusing and unorganized first period, the Allies were able to get nearly 3 times that to Berlin every single day. The entire Stalingrad air lift managed 8,350 tons over the course of a little over two months. The Allies did the same in just two days...FOR MONTHS STRAIGHT. This irony is enhanced by the fact that ex-luftwaffe members, some that very well may have participated in the Stalingrad air lift, aided in this one. The Berlin Airlift was a flex in more than one way lol

[@CadianTrooper224]

One I absolutely love is The Fat Electrician's Old 666 and the Eager Beavers, should check that one out CADIA STILL STANDS!!!!

[@dominiccastro6483]

Janovich has a new siege of vraks episode out, you need to react.

[@Crazycoyote-we7ey]

I remember hearing about this way back in the 90s on OG National Geographic

[@josephhyland8904]

I'm a straight razor guy myself. I do have a safety razor (not a Henson) as a back-up, and can vouch for how good a shave they give. And I love the blue whale scale.

[@Shalltear773]

I think it's hilarious how there are still people out there who think communism is better despite evidence to the contrary. while capitalism isn't perfect - and anyone who claims it is is just a fool, just like anyone claiming communism is - it's at least provided very clear historical evidence proving which is better. especially in situations like this

[@thorshammer7883]

I don't like any kind of secular idealogy at all as they are only doctrines of men but you got to admit when it is given to opportunity to run properly and efficiently flourish in a faithful Godly way capitalism nations does know how to set up a crucial critical infrastructure production and maintenance pretty well done and proficiently at that.

[@argentstorm2861]

C-130s are small military cargo planes. We definately have the capability.

[@whenisdinner2137]

Teach an absolutely pull it off today but it Would be much more difficult because we aren't trained for it like they were

[@ironkeko4423]

Where is our 40k version of this?

[@stampcollector74]

It is hisory, but I'm still thankfull US. THXs from Germany! *muah*♥

[@Dallen9]

When you comprehend the scales at which we can actually go you, would be terrified by the reality of the reasons why we don't. When we used to say America is the greatest Nation on earth, this was one of the reasons why. America developed everything that makes modern logistics possible, we developed the processes, the technology, and the scales to make it work, and America if it got off it's fat ass and did something the world could only fall under it's control.

[@PrinceOfDolAlmroth]

If every nation was defined by how good it was at something, America would be the utter king of getting shit where it needs to be on time

[@Dallen9]

to a degree yes, it mainly would be the king of Production and getting things on time but that's a discussion for another time. @@PrinceOfDolAlmroth

[@danielseelye6005]

Seriously? Not one mention of the stick figure railing "Communism" on his new shirt? Available now @ The Fat Electrician store. 😁

[@MIKE_F44]

Took the comment right off my thumb

[@wuba-luba-dub-dub]

Where the hell were the French in all this? Did they just say fuck it let the U.S.A and the British handle it?

[@semperaugustus661]

We needed people that would help, not be a hindrance. The French would surrender after an hour and decide it wasn't worth it.

[@Isolder74]

@@semperaugustus661 The French didn't have any cargo planes to help with. They did provide an airfield and traffic controllers as they had people who could speak French, German and English.

[@2strokinit527]

I think this sponsors razor is awesome, but I use a straight razor and sharpen it on and old leather belt.

[@acrisaevum195]

i love the obese electron, i am subscribed and always watch his videos first, you however great reaction and i love it, and you respect his ads, so you respect the content your reacting to, so i love ya, my only advice is to you do you, not just reactions, i'm insterested in what you can put out on your own, if you can't because its too risky... then it is what it is, but i'm interested, because i think you have your own personality that needs to be shown by itself

[@HF7-AD]

British rationing was insanely good, the average person was actually eating more and better than pre war

[@slouchygames1923]

Hey old man random question have you heard about the uss new jersey a battleship that sank an island?

[@OldManReacts]

.... You have my attention good sir.

[@slouchygames1923]

@OldManReacts the fat electrician has done a video good sir and I would of put it in the requests in your discord but I think I already put a request in there

[@ricksanchez1893]

I kinda wanna see what that razors about

[@MrKangaroo123]

I could swear you've already reacted to this? though i could be wrong

[@yambo59]

Planes wouldnt get in the way of something like this today it would be our current government

[@gchampi2]

I think you were trying to say you knew OF the Berlin Airlift, but now you know ABOUT the Berlin Airlift. The next level is knowing the details of the airlift, but that's more a books & research thing, not a YT video thing...

[@icedraco7672]

Ya know the more likely scenario is the next cold war will turn hot but America has spent so much in Intel that we found out just how bad the other 2 contenders truly are

[@gendalfgray7889]

Pls wath another video of this dude about berlin wall.

[@ranekeisenkralle8265]

23.21 Oh technologically it would probably be quite possible to do. What i would doubt is the political will and guts to do it. At the risk of sounding like a grumpy old grandfather, but most people these days focus far too much on only themselves to have much consideration for others. Add to that empty virtue-signalling for clout on so-called "social" media, and you got a bunch of people who may SAY the right things, but following through? Doubtful.

[@richardrichardhaleysguitar8810]

Bible says swearing is wrong

[@chrisbacon3071]

I FUCKING LOVE LOGISTICS 😤😤😤🥵🥵🥵🎉🎉🎉🎊🎊🎊🍾🍾🍾🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[@Sir_Engel_038]

To bad the US doesn't have the C5 Globlemaster III

[@spcwild]

you should react to his video about absolutely wrecking the Wagner mercenary group 😂

[@richardkim3652]

America also helped rebuild Japan and other parts of Asia and also Europe. America literally became the world #1 aid worker for the entire world and they didn't get paid for it.

[@berilsevvalbekret772]

Don't worry they get more by fucking over the rest. Go ask a middle eastern or south american how much america 'helped'

[@theneverwhere6076]

Oh they did, why you think Europe is seen as just extension of US at this point? Americans are Brits, and Brits never help for no reason, they always gain something in return, even against their own people, not talking about other ethnicities.

[@richardkim3652]

@@theneverwhere6076 Well it's common sense that you would be friends and align yourself with people that helped you through a desperate time so of course most parts of Europe like America... no shit lol. Just like how I'm from South Korea and after the Korean war my country was basically destroyed and then America sent in construction workers and etc to help rebuild my country and gave us food and water and that's why South Korea and America are friends lol.

[@theneverwhere6076]

@@richardkim3652 "Well it's common sense that you would be friends and align yourself with people that helped you through a desperate time so of course most parts of Europe like America" Oh my friendo it's not just "friendship" when European countries have to cope after losing projects worth of dozens if not hundreds of billions, and coincidentally it's usually always things that USA would benefit from (Nord Streams, ring a bell?) It's more like vassal relationships now, not friendship and sure as h&ll not companionship since NATO is like 80% USA alone.

[@richardkim3652]

@@theneverwhere6076 During that time it was about friendship when it was happening. In the long term and when the politicians came in then yea it turned into a business thing like almost everything does. The crew pilots and the West German people were friends though and they actually became good friends with UK to. Basically the people doing the labor and all the work are doing it out of friendship and just volunteering to do it out of compassion but that turned into business when the politicians and higher ups got in. Also NATO is like 80% America alone yes that is true but NATO is funded by America by like 80% so they contribute the most to lol.

[@gundam2jimmy]

15:52 16:12

[@Okomi874]

I mean if you take human nature out of it then yes communism is a great idea but given human nature..........I'm good, though not like we live in a democracy currently, more of an oligarchy, huh, weird thought

[@C-486]

If only the commies were opposed instead...