Biggest Plot Twist in Gaming (MGS1)

[@dreamEnd]

I can imagine Kaz's ghost screaming from the heaven "He played you like a damn fiddleeee!"

[@IAmKrow]

LMAO

[@ShirakiAkarin]

correction, outher heaven :v

[@ya436]

shiro Yui BoS Ad Victoriam, kept you wating, huh? Correction of your correction i dont think miller or anyone from diamond dogs is going to heaven to be honest.

[@Afterdark68]

ya436 Why.? they are not bad people. And miller is good man.

[@mlgsvthemanwhosmokedthedog3797]

correction mother base

[@BeardofBeesPool]

Master Miller's fiddle was just discovered in his home.

[@Viper4ever05]

Beard of Bees Pool lmao good one

[@wheelspeakworks]

Beard of Bees Pool Bravo.

[@LaggySnake]

It has been played with at least three days.

[@kingkeefage]

@@LaggySnake No, it was found with it's strings snapped from the pressure of almost 40 years of constant, vigorous playing 3 days ago.

[@ezio4470]

Discovered in his home?

[@TheWarrior7769]

Then you hear in the background " HE PLAYED YOU LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE !!!!! "

[@thesquirelismyfriend]

Not as big as the plot twist where we learn that Pliskin was really Solid Snake the whole time. That one really got me.

[@Watchmain]

Cormac Mahoney He was 0_O !?!?!

[@Steventhe2nd]

Cormac Mahoney i knew that it was Snake, the disguise didn't work to much on me

[@baharry]

Steventhe2nd That was sarcasm....

[@Steventhe2nd]

Toastaddiction i know, just sayin....

[@DaddysFlipside]

Steventhe2nd My ass you knew.

[@DonFolaskoComedy]

I love how he takes off his 'disguise' and reveals his face over a radio communication!

[@Hassony523]

You wouldn't understand nanomachines.

[@mr.battle20]

Codec calls are powered by nanomachines, which give a visual link displayed on the retina. Yes, it's technobabble bullshit, but it's how the Metal Gear universe gets around that sort of thing.

[@EqualsThreeable]

Did you like my sunglasses line implies that they can see each other.

[@calebkummer9337]

It's the NANOMACHINES!

[@MegaPhilX]

I made up an excuse for that back then. That the reason he gets on one knee when using the codec was because he has a mini-screen on his thigh so he can see the person he's talking to.

[@jamesfletcher1319]

What I love most about this twist is that it genuinely felt like a betrayal. The Colonel and Naomi were hiding secrets from Snake from the very start. Miller was your man: a previous soldier himself, digging for details, trying to find answers, sharing information and asking the important questions. Miller always had your back, the one person you could always trust. Then this hits you, he played you like a damn fiddle. And damn does it hurt.

[@fran8275]

Its like a Phantom Pain

[@ilikepigeons6101]

And it wasn't Miller's fault too. He was murdered by an imposter

[@hitoshura7]

@@ilikepigeons6101 😳

[@ntvm4749]

its not miller tho

[@shortyg1018]

Then come to find out, the real Miller been dead for 3 days, damn.

[@baifomet6425]

I remember watching the mission briefing, they talked about Decoy Octopus, and how he was a master of disguise and then I was like "Hah, he's not gonna fool me!". And then, i not only got fooled by him, but by a guy who just used a ponytail and sunglases as disguise. This game made me feel so dumb.

[@marras9635]

Baifomet me too. Now I feel like the people in Superman: "you're not Superman, Clark" (removes glasses) "oh my god, Superman!"

[@T2266]

How can you not be? As the player, you never see the real Miller before, so all you can do is taking everyone's word that he is really Miller.

[@evrimenustun9548]

Yeah but his voice was always the same as Liquid's and a really, like really careful player might understand that something was fishy with Miller.

[@JIMT412]

He play us like a Damn Fiddle!!!

[@TheLoneWolf5236]

Play MGS 2, it will make you feel like dogshit

[@IsaacChoo88]

"no one can stop Metal Gear now." Said in every Metal Gear games.... Before being destroyed by Snake

[@JohnSmith-wl7gf]

Hahahahaha

[@cooperchance7720]

Or Raiden

[@thebatman7583]

By konami you mean 😁

[@AaronTheSilver]

Nothing can stop metal gear now... except 15 stinger missiles

[@Silver-Kaitou]

Liquid: Nothing can stop Metal Gear now. Snake/Raiden: We'll see about that.

[@PaulNat360]

Fake miller removed his sunglasses with his right hand. Real miller lost his whole right arm

[@tylerlackey1175]

And you need 2 hands to play a fiddle :(

[@dickvonwankle2527]

@@tylerlackey1175 Miller is too powerful so he uses telekinesis

[@leducdu91]

Maybe Miller got a fake arm after lost it in MGSV.

[@dripsnake44]

@@leducdu91 Yeah. I mean, look at Venom Snake's bionic arm. Pretty advanced, so by the time MGS1 would've happened, prosthetics could've been advanced enough to make it look exactly like a real arm. Could've also taken someone else's arm like Ocelot did though. Although we do have to take into account that Kaz said he didn't want to replace his arm and rely on bionics, so this is just a small possibility.

[@GR1MM_REAPER]

@@dripsnake44 I mean Grey fox exists

[@solidsnake9898]

To be fair, he does have really nice sunglasses! :)

[@Girard1020]

+Solid Snake That, and how he murdered and stole Master Miller's identity to use you to activate Metal Gear REX Liquid thought he gotten the inferior genes of Big Boss but he has it wrong, Snake. You were the inferior Clone of the "Les Enfant Terrible" Project. For example you wanted to walk away from the killing on the battlefield and live a normal life in peace, and how Psycho Mantis told you have a big place in Meryl's heart in his dying breath, and you'd didn't find out the truth until the last minute. And Liquid's example of him, he shot down 2 F-16's Jets with a Hind D, Planned and calculate the Terrorist Attack, and knew you were coming. But one thing is still puzzling me, Snake. How did Gray Fox get to Shadow Moses Island and how did Liquid know you were coming to spread the Fox-Die virus?

[@solidsnake9898]

Joseph Barnes Gray Fox used his Ninja Powers, and I'm not quite sure.

[@solidsnake9898]

Venom Snake Father?

[@luigifan001]

+Solid Snake SNAKE! THAT'S NOT BIG BOSS!

[@solidsnake9898]

Punished Roy Really... then that means... HE PLAYED ME LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE!

[@SCALES1992]

The real plot twist was finding out the Liquid was actually the genetically superior clone compared to Snake.

[@TheACcam]

I was thinking about that the other day in regards to MGSV. Even as a child, he felt he was a worthless, inferior byproduct.

[@paulsmith9192]

@american Fitty but then if solid snake the weakest of the clones,then why didn't he die first from fox die?

[@jarjar7872]

@@paulsmith9192 Kojima was shooting heroin into his penis veins when he wrote this script, dont poke plot holes in his water tight story

[@ilikepigeons6101]

@@jarjar7872 LMAO

[@demonking86420]

@@paulsmith9192 because Foxdie was programmed to target Liquid's genes, but not Solid's genes. Remember that Liquid's inherited the recessive genes(the blond hair, which is a rarer hair color, indicates it) (also take in mind that recessive does not mean inferior) while Solid got the common dominant ones(brown hair, common). Neither of the Twin Snakes inherited Big Boss' complete genome because the genes were culled accordingly, and it was only the Third Son, Solidus, who was a direct genetic copypasta, hence 'perfect clone'

[@pajamapantsjack5874]

Miller didn’t deserve that...

[@pelufaz8435]

Profile Pic source pls

[@Abdo0.]

They killed him like a damn fiddle !

[@richtersiegfried61]

Abdallah Ashraf Ocelot just went to greet his "old friend"

[@fissilewhistle]

Especially considering how they went out of their way to flesh out Miller’s character later so that when you replay MGS1 you think “Shit, they killed Master Miller, I liked that guy.”

[@stefanosiclari]

I think he was kind of a pain in the ass, actually

[@schnubbel76]

"So who ist it"??? "Snake you've been talking to..." "WHITE MAMBA!!!"

[@big_tyler_m]

? That's liquid

[@DanthebobGaming]

+Tyler Mosier In the Phantom Pain we are introduced to a young Liquid who is training child soldiers in Africa under the nickname "The White Mamba".

[@big_tyler_m]

Just That Danbob oh

[@DanthebobGaming]

I could say more about the events between mgs 5 and 1 but i don't want to spoil it. Instead i recommend getting MGS 5 for yourself and completing it to 100%. There's alot of good story to it.

[@Firemarioflower]

+Tyler Mosier HIs real name is Eli.

[@JasonBassett]

HE PLAYED HIM LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE.

[@cesarmaluco769]

+Jason Bassett THAT SPYING BITCH... WE BUILD IT! DAMN IT!

[@richtersiegfried61]

Metal Gear Miller Game Over Don't you died on me DAMN IT! Kaz Kazzzzzz

[@Luka2000_]

Im afraid its been...9 years

[@Taka12G]

Liquid's disguise was just a smokescreen, the deactivation codes... THEY PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE

[@danixdefcon5]

Fun fact: I suddenly realized that Snake was being tricked into activating Metal Gear midway through the shape change thing. I was like "waaaait a moment. The DARPA chief never gave his code. This thing will either deactivate Metal Gear if it's active, or *activate it if it isn't*. Oh fuck, I'm being played!!!!" but of course, to finish the game you have to activate Metal Gear. I just found it really funny that I managed to realize it but Snake didn't. Also: if you call Master Miller when you get the final key shape, you'll notice that Miller is kind of ... "excited".

[@barceo]

Well, you also have to consider than YOU may have known they didn’t get the Chief’s code, but Snake didn’t. You, the player, were shown the flashback scene where Liquid scolds Ocelot for killing the Chief, but Snake didn’t know that. As far as Snake was concerned, all he knew was that the man he saw die before his eyes was not the DARPA Chief, but Snake didn’t know that Octopus impersonated the Chief because they didn’t have his code. Raven told Snake he must solve the rest of the riddle himself, so kudos to you for doing that. As far as Snake knew, however, they had both codes and were ready to launch.

[@saiyanjohn9212]

When I first played MGS1 I knew something about Master Miller was off and it was his voice. He sounded so much like Liquid Snake. I should've known

[@georgebaynard4096]

I knew miller was liquid during the hind fight when he didn’t respond to my codec call I knew oh fuck he’s miller isn’t he

[@nivyan]

@@georgebaynard4096 That's how I got it too! Miller was usually a good source for boss related advice, so when he was notably absent for that fight it served as an excellent hint.

[@jabrilpatterson9055]

@@georgebaynard4096 plus if you look around with the camera after the fight, you'll see the parachute in a tree near by.

[@paismonster]

this game was tooo legendary

[@Enclosure_2k]

best game ever made by in human history.. imagine this PC ect with fox engine.

[@WoundedSnake]

Is**

[@latchie8893]

@@Enclosure_2k this game is proof graphics aren't everything.

[@OmniTerror]

Kaz...What happened....Kaz?....KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZ

[@abhijaik70]

He's dead

[@ThatOneElfEnjoyer]

They played us like a damn fiddle, boss!!

[@MannyKunV]

after playing peace walker, ground zeros, and seeing Miller's role in phantom pain and getting a bigger idea how important of a character he was, im a little shocked at how master miller was killed off in the side lines. same time its almost plot fitting twisty enough to pass for me. and also of course this was way before anyone knew mgs would get so huge

[@Erkaryos]

+MannyKunV yeah :( i guess they didnt have planned to him be a big character, that happens when they make a lot of games with no linear order, they made one of the present then past then future then past... so they have to do weird things to keep the story or there will be unrelated stuff and story holes... they played us like a damn fiddle again ;(

[@m.b3191]

+kakio14 Don't worry, this is a metal gear solid game we are talking about. There may be a plot twist saying his death was a deceit the whole time and he was planning for the downfall of Cipher/Patriots/Philospher/Zero in the shadows the whole god damn time.

[@Erkaryos]

Mubeen Bankur xDDD

[@m.b3191]

:'D :'D :'D

[@Erkaryos]

***** DUN DUN DUN DUUN ( ground zeroes main sound effect )

[@TheBerzekerC]

And master's soul is watching from heaven and saying... ¡Snake, he played you like a damn fiddle!

[@Twocoolman115]

"Liquid, you BITCH!!!!!"

[@Dark.Shingo]

+Twocoolman115 "I knew that goddammed Eli was going to be my doom..."

[@Erkaryos]

+Antonio Francisco Magaña Gómez hahahahahahahaah

[@Dark.Shingo]

***** well, he definitely didn't go to heaven. Outer Heaven, that is.

[@mlgsvthemanwhosmokedthedog3797]

i heard pussy explosions then... i just realized that big boss dont have any shrapnels ( ! ) kojima played us like a fiddle

[@wwetitle818]

Snake! Did you like my sunglasses?

[@vgglsilverroxetz5284]

truth be told he really has nice sunglasses

[@Onmysheet]

But how did Snake see his sunglasses? Liquid was asking the audience.

[@DoppelDyne]

You point a weapon at your own brother?

[@theclown5763]

That moment when you realize that Master and Liquid had the same voice and you never noticed...

[@psycholonya]

Liquid was a really fucking good character, and a fucking genius. Its not surprise though since he was raised up and made to think that he had recessive genes when actually he had the dominant ones.

[@gabrielholcomb3372]

Daniel GamingReturned he didn't have the dominant ones they told liquid that he had the recessive genes so they would think solid had the dominant ones but really solidus from mgs2 is the perfect clone of big Boss

[@fodolocraigo8426]

wait, who did they mean? who had inferior?

[@DEADPOOL9AND]

fodolo craigo Actually Liquid was stronger than Snake, but because he sucks at biology he thought he was the inferior one.

[@okon6113]

Skee S Liquid is also strong and efficient.

[@demi-femme4821]

Snake's IQ is 180...

[@xanthespace5141]

I don'y know why, but Miller's/Liquid's picture on the codec is creepy as hell.

[@TheBerzekerC]

+SpaceFox Damn, I thought I was the only one who thought that, when I was a kid I literally never called Master if i was playing at night. For me his face was scarier than any suvival horror

[@TheBerzekerC]

+nightwingvmc2 Well, Resident evil teached us that if someone wears sunglasses at night, he is a confirmed douchebag

[@xanthespace5141]

+Correcaminos Adam Jensen is a douchebag by that logic.

[@GamingSuccub]

+SpaceFox Adam is a douche, punching up whores on the street in his spare time. /sarcasm (thats what i do when i play Human Revolution :P)

[@KalebKing88]

SpaceFox It’s the way he was illustrated, along with the dialogue and the background music to set the mood.

[@Ball4184]

"Who are you, anyway?" "To begin with... we're not what you'd call.. 'human'."

[@charliechaz1982]

This game made me jump out of my skin several times over. Was the spookiest metal gear. Could of had nightmares after playing this. For some reason the others didn't have quite the same intensity. Better gameplay and graphics in later games but this whole experience just grabbed me by the balls and wouldn't let up. Fucking AMAZING game. Legendary.

[@brandonhg4291]

this is more than a game

[@mphylo2296]

I think it's the cutscenes. They were shot like an epic military action film. Kojima's ability to create tension and excitement is superior to a vast majority of filmmakers.

[@saifytextile744]

every mgs is like that, but this one's story is arguably better than the others

[@mphylo2296]

saify textile Not every MGS game. MGS 1 in particular has high tension and suspense. MGS 2 doesn't have the same style except in the tanker section, MGS 3 is laid back like a 60's action flick. I can't speak for MGS4 as I have yet to play it for myself.

[@Kujakuseki01]

It was unique and there had never been a game with this kind of narrative. And the character casts in this game are much stronger than any of the sequels.

[@akatsukicloak]

The voice acting here is top notch. You can feel the anger and confusion in Snake and how excited Liquid's voice is also his accent changes the instant Campbell calls out the disguise.

[@MasterMacLeod]

Snake, you've been talking to-- IT'S ME AUSTIN!!! IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, AUSTIN!!!

[@MobKnowledge]

MasterMacLeod "OH SONOFABITCH!"

[@MasterMacLeod]

MobKnowledge *bang*

[@isaiahkayode8783]

WHAT!

[@aligdatsmedatsme]

Hahahahahahaha brilliant 😂😂😂

[@bluetooth5562]

W-WHAT IS VINCE MCMAHON DOING IN THE IMPACT ZONE?!

[@Toanon]

WATCH OUT, SNAKE THAT'S NOT MASTER MILLER! SEE I HELPED DID YOU SEE THAT

[@chefbruhardee7015]

ThatOne Anon XD

[@spookyskeleton194]

IM HELPING. SEE I HELPED

[@Firemarioflower]

+Spooky Skeleton I dont get it.

[@chefbruhardee7015]

Firemarioflower Watch "Let's Destroy the Metal Gear!"

[@Joseph-hv7jx]

+Firemarioflower METALLLLLL GEEEEAAAARRRRR

[@lindsaymonroe567]

When I played this legendary game as a kid, this Codec call and the Codec call with Otacon earlier in the game about the weight limit in the elevator going off scared the shit outta me back then. The intensity and atmosphere in this game at key points was better than those in most actual Horror movies and games, which is EXACTLY why I believe Hideo Kojima would make a great full-on Horror game director

[@metri0n]

Dude that moment in the elevator with otocan scared the shit out of me growing up

[@DCDCWizard]

Same!!! I had nightmares of his face freaking out. I used to watch my dad play the game and would have to close my eyes when that part came on.

[@farhanhasan2926]

Agreed, also the Mantis fight

[@jackdaniels5168]

Miller is one of the greatest characters that Kojima written I enjoyed his character development very much, so this twist is actually sad after MGS PW, GZ And V.

[@RaihowazHere]

When they did this in a different game, I called this type of plot twist "pulling a Liquid Snake".

[@danixdefcon5]

haahaha! Which game was it? (I've seen the twist in quite a number of games, indeed.)

[@ibrungit1]

Or pulling the liquid twist.

[@kingkeefage]

Twisting a Liquid.

[@neo-warkid4edwards222]

@@danixdefcon5 most recently, God of War Ragnarok; the Tyr you rescued in Svartalfheim was Odin in disguise all along.

[@no_opinion1065]

The fiddle trick.

[@sgauden02]

Who else was genuinely shocked when it was revealed to be Liquid the whole time?

[@vgglsilverroxetz5284]

Not me, I realized that somethings fishy with "Master miller" because in the cell thing, when u meet meryl in disguise and she tells u to open the door then psycho mantis casts something in that cutscene they said "YOU FOOL! you've killed him! it was an accident. Now we'll never get that detonation code!" And since Darpa/president baker/chief never gave their code it means that if u input the keys again it'll activate, even otacon mentioned it can be used to deactivate/activate

[@shadowkill64]

Yep, my jaw dropped when i played through this initially. Was one hell of a plot twist since it had been going on the entire game versus a chapter or two

[@JKZEROkenjiMB]

i was.

[@esta7763]

Yeah, I'll admit... That one shocked me really well. Like "Holy shit! That was Liquid the whole time!" I had to play through again to see if there were any references to it throughout the game. It was then I realized I got no response from Master during the fight with Liquid in the chopper battle.

[@DrEarthwormRobotnik]

This completely caught me and a friend off guard when we got there. We just shouted the biggest "WHAT?!".

[@That_KVO_Breh]

MGS 1 is a permanent landmark in gaming history. i was 8 years old when I first played this. this scene sent shivers down my spine. if crash bandicoot and final fantasy 7 can get a remake why can't we get a remake of this

[@ISetYourFaceOnFire]

Because Konami would never allow it nor would they want to do it. And if they did....no way in hell would it be any good without kojima and the original developers directing/working on it

[@totalawesomeness2310]

It would be too nice to what's left of the playerbase and fans for Konami to actually do it. They'll only do somerhing if it's a giant FUCK YOU to the community

[@WaynePage90]

This twist got me too , been along time since a game got me in the same way....mgs was my first game on the PS1 and still the best in my eyes.

[@EnglishBullet]

They would fuck it up... Modern game mechanics wouldn't work on the limited mapsize anyway. Twin Snakes already kinda proved this by adding FPS mode and hanging, which completely break the game). Not everything in life needs a remake, A Space Odyssey 2001 is proof of this (which happens to be part of Kojima's source of inspiration for his new game Death Stranding haha)!

[@skippertheeyechild6621]

It got remade. Twin Snakes exists. It's totally ludicrous in execution, but it exists.

[@maskofthedragon]

Liquid's disguise was so good it retconned Miller's design for the rest of the series!

[@CrimsonHybrid]

What's extra amazing is that it's not even the same voice actor... 😳 And yet Robin Atkin Downes managed to nail Liquid's impression, who was doing an impression of HIS character, and it goes full circle!

[@Nonameman0001]

Still one of the best voice acting moments in the entirety of video game history.

[@rivalgrayson4774]

Let's thank MGS1 for not having the Rose codec conversations

[@christiancristof491]

Oh god

[@juanpunchman5484]

Jake! Why won't you tell me anything about you?

[@christiancristof491]

Because you're annoying, Rose. For fuck's sake, Rose.

[@user-yi5mt2df5q]

Naomi was so annoying.

[@Mgnony]

@@user-yi5mt2df5q Regardless of whether that was true or not, at least you don't have to call Naomi to save only to end up in a cringe conversation. *Edit:* Actually, I don't think Naomi even had her own frequency.

[@philipchurch8772]

There was something very universally relatable about how Solid Snake went through a tediously contrived sequence of computer operations only for the computer to do the exact opposite of what he intended. "NO! I deactivated it!' is just like any of our "No! I hit save and quit, not quit without saving!" or some other similar mishap.

[@kentuckydragon4586]

Wow the dialog and music is just very awesome, I was getting goosebumps! This game is simply a masterpiece.

[@DrAnimePhD]

And it's DSP's personal hell.

[@therandombats2579]

This has got to be the scariest plot twist, not only in video games, but plot twists in general. More shocking than Albert Wesker betraying the entire S.T.A.R.S. unit in Resident Evil 1.

[@SoccerVJ2011]

+The Random Bats Wesker was obviously the bad guy lol who was actually suprised

[@VenturousArtist]

I was surprised because before you learn through another event he didn't seem like a total asshole. If Capcom didn't have that one scene between him and Barry, it would've been outright shocking. By Resident Evil 5, Wesker turned into a giant super villain and even there his death was less shocking than from the first game.

[@Chief_Bill]

Shocking? Yeah. But the scariest? I don't really think so.

[@brandonng2883]

Whoever wear sunglasses indoor during nighttime/daytime is confirmed douchebag..

[@addex1236]

@@naught_. get the fuck over yourself the games almost 20 years old and somepont it has be ok to discuss media

[@therangedmartialartist5749]

When you play the game a second time you pick up on subtle clues that "master Miller" is Liquid. Like when he talks about sniping he says "...If your senses were full from the beginning, you'll never be a great sniper." This is similar to how Liquid believes your genetics keep you on a set path in life. Or the fact that you can't contact "master Miller" during the hind fight.

[@neo-warkid4edwards222]

and if you go through the briefing tapes, Miller isn't mentioned ONCE, not even in the part about Snake's support team

[@ninjahmos3162]

"Oh no! Cam Clarke was Cam Clarke all along!"

[@MiXVoy]

You mean "Leonardo was Liquid all along!"

[@foxshock5571]

@@MiXVoy And Corrin from Fire Emblem Fates! 😱

[@yakthekuza7296]

Darby was Liquid all along!

[@WT_Neptune]

Damn you Corrin!

[@zefanyalt5944]

Snake : who are you anyway?! Liquid : one of your fans. Deepthroat : wrong script dammit! Director : CUUT...

[@ericperry27]

LMAO

[@chesterholland5909]

Deep throat sound like darpa chief

[@sulphurous2656]

@@chesterholland5909 That's what I thought the whole time until this and Fox ultimately revealing himself.

[@chesterholland5909]

@@sulphurous2656 plus master sound like liquid and turn out to be him

[@nicholasbeschizza9118]

How has no one ever questioned the name “deep throat”?

[@Rahhelthethird]

I love the codec call before you activate Metal Gear when you call the Master he is super excited.

[@Mike_11_16]

The way the music changes at 2:35...and then Campbell frantically cutting in a few seconds later...chills. I always liked talking Master during the mission,.and then THAT happens. I was pretty blown away by that twist.

[@retrogamingguitarist5961]

You''ll never experience this for the first time again.

[@filipeflower]

Not even in The Twin Snakes.

[@falconeshield]

​@@filipeflowerTwin Sneks was bad though

[@filipeflower]

@@falconeshield In some ways.

[@austinpeake1331]

Biggest plot twist in Metal Gear will always be Venom Snake being GrayFox

[@purplesamurai5205]

Huh?

[@zachary4268]

I love how he still impersonates miller while explaining his evil plan

[@ogatahyakunosuke]

2:41 it's funny how liquid didn't want to reveal himself because he wanted to surprise solid snake by that "did you like my sunglasses" thing but campbell just ruined everything lol

[@capomilano4126]

Love how similar Liquids impersonation of Kaz and Kaz actually sound

[@MacMan77]

Snake was played like a damn fiddle

[@21stcenturystops59]

"You didn't think you made it this far by yourself, did you?" This quote made me feel like I was played like a damn fiddle. I was playing pretend secret agent and my success was staged.

[@the21stsergeant]

0:24 when someone asks you why your Facebook profile isn't showing up any more.

[@the21stsergeant]

Cam Clarke truly was a fucking Master in his roles in this game.

[@the21stsergeant]

Even through the whole reveal, Liquid maintains the persona of Master Miller until Campbell cuts him off. That's fucking brutal. Ties in perfectly with the fact that Snake admired Master, to further break Snake's heart, and Liquid fucking hated the guy during the Phantom Pain years. Genius storytelling I love it

[@vulfreyde]

After replaying the game you notice that Miller was the only character that was giving you useless information throughout the mission. Just vague tips, nothing really helpful. The only time he does give you proper instructions is when he wants you to insert the PAL keys for him.

[@reggiewarrington4586]

*Start shotgunning a beer at **2:25**, and tell me the BRRRRRR BGM while Liquid says "Uh... poor fool...!" doesn't sound, and ... well ... feeeeel better. Go on. I'll wait*

[@sean-thiago1986]

“Snake! You’ve been talking to...” ME, DEAR BRODAA!!!!

[@bigbossiswatchingyou4624]

LIQUID! HOW THE?!

[@abhijaik70]

DEAR BROTHAAAAAAA

[@falconeshield]

BRODAAAA DID YOU FIND DA WAE

[@jovandjukic7940]

*Arghhh!LIQUIID!*

[@Natedawg38]

Ive never been so creeped out playing a video game

[@artorigus19]

"So who is it?" "Snake you've been talking to-" *IT'S ME AUSTIN!*

[@IAmBushid0]

AW SON OF A BITCH!

[@bigbossiswatchingyou4624]

WHAT?!

[@afriend9428]

*POWERS?*

[@darkmessengerofanotherworl2840]

IT'S ME AUSTIN! IT WAS ME ALL ALONG AUSTIN!

[@Ashton__Kusher]

Thing is, this wasnt the biggest one, the bigger ones start once you realized ocelot killed the D. Chief on purpose...

[@jackcravford8744]

Reading all these comments from you guys, is just great experience. The game industry during PS2 era was just beyond everything compared to what we have now. :(

[@willia3r]

Real-talk. I just can’t get with this DLC mess and subscription gaming, might as well 🔥 burn my dollars😕

[@chipsdubbo1510]

PS2? This game was made during the PS1 era, my dude

[@falconeshield]

We've got good times now too

[@radbuffman3487]

THEY PLAYED HIM LIKE A DAMN FIDDDLLLLLLLLLLE

[@LostSandwich]

Biggest plot twist in gaming..... Until The Phantom Pain.

[@evilfreak7]

+John Wayne At least it explained why BB was still alive in MG2.

[@centurionl]

+Lost Sandwich you must not pay attention to NOT see that.. come on. it was almost obvious since the beginning

[@LostSandwich]

Digital-Scratch Yeah now looking back im surprised i didn't see it, this was literally right after i beat it. :P

[@burleysnake7746]

+Digital-Scratch EXACTLY! I have been saying since MGSV was announced that Venom wasn't the real Big Boss. If you're paying attention to the trailers, every single one of them shows it in some way. And if the trailers weren't enough, the medic in GZ having Kiefer Sutherland's voice and not showing his face should have removed all doubt.

[@TheBerzekerC]

¡¡I can't hear you I can't read you lalalalalalalala!!

[@Kevinmadefilms]

"The call is coming from INSIDE the house!"

[@daoyang223]

I also think the plot twist with Big Boss' body was pretty good too. You go the whole game oblivious about Big Boss' body until Colonel Campbell tells you that it isn't Big Boss' body after all.

[@Dingleberg69]

Dang Miller Suffered From an Explosion Lost his Arm and Leg then He Died in His home RIP He Lived a good life Also How Did Snake Not Notice That The Fake Miller Has an Arm Considering he Lost It

[@GlitchanBlack]

This scene is what Liquid meant by "Snake! Did you like my sunglasses?"

[@atelerix969]

I like how Miller's style of speaking starts changing during this call, basically sounding like Liquid in an American accent before just slipping into pure British charm

[@rattleheadv3855]

The first time I played the game I was like: YOU WAAAAAT, MATE ?

[@jjyhawk1]

Poor Master Miller, killed off screen 😔

[@TheLightninification]

Liquid, or Eli, was always the biggest troublemaker ever

[@demi-femme4821]

Every time he shows up, someone is inconvenienced. Snake, The Patriots, Other Snake, Miller, Military personnel... Liquid always fucks with someone's day, even when he's dead.

[@fugglenurd673]

You don't dare... EVER... EVERRRR!!!! Take a pair of sunglasses from Kaz...

[@ElonMuskPobre]

People who are unrecognizable from glasses: Liquid Snake Superman

[@thekingofjobbersthekid]

This twist really hurts when Kaz was your favorite character, I know from experience.

[@ClarkBR549]

When Liquid pulled his shades off, I first thought of David Bowie.

[@NRobbi42]

I love how Liquid berates ocelot for killing the darpa chief, but it turns out Ocelot wanted him dead the whole time. Pulled the floor out from under the rug on that one.

[@uncertifiedmindelusiveshine]

Poor Miller, first he’s abandoned by big boss after losing a literal arm and a leg for the man, then he’s involved in the Venom project (at first involuntarily) and then after all of this either Ocelot, a man whom he once called an ally OR the little shit that along with Mantis stole Salehanthropus ends up kicking in his door, murdering him, and stealing his identity. F.

[@mrrigatone9595]

Liquid played Snake like a damn fiddle

[@hirotrum6810]

1:55 if this game had dynamic difficulty like in re4 this could've been one of the greatest lines in gaming history

[@FrozenSolid90]

And then other Metal Gear Solid games come and make this plot twist even deeper. Like when you realize Ocelot killed the DARPA chief because it was Sigint who recognized him from the events of MGS3... And mostly because of Cipher...

[@totalawesomeness2310]

Not to mention how important Master was in Peace Walker GZ and TPP then he's just killed with Eli masquerading as him. Which makes sense since Eli is Liquid and he would remember some of Master's mannerisms from his time in TPP

[@yamisean3298]

They foreshadowed this by having "Master's" codec unavailable after the helicopter fight.

[@natevirtual]

1:50 that musical cue is excellent!

[@mariogamesandanime3498]

I CAN AGREE WITH EVERYONE'S EXPRESSING ON THIS PLOT TWIST OF THE SCENE IN MGS1. BIG FAN. THOUGH IMAGINE PLAYING THIS SCENE WITH THE LIGHTS TURNED OFF, AS THIS CONVERSATION GET DARKER AND CLOSER TO REALIZING, "THIS IS NOT GOOD AT ALL. THE MUSIC. THE MOMENT. AND THE TWIST, THAT MAKES YOU GET GOOSEBUMPS. THAT'S HOW GREAT THIS SCENE IS! 🤩

[@jeffreymorales5207]

Me.... Dear Brother. You have serve your purpose. You may die now! EPIC Line... That's why Cam Clarke is such a good Voice Actor.

[@benwasserman8223]

You gotta wonder how many freak coincidences and close encounters Liquid put into this plan. If Snake had died they wouldn't be able to launch at all

[@vincentvalentine9417]

Which begs the question, why was every boss trying to kill snake if he was so essential to the plan?

[@Crimson_Snake1]

+Vincent Valentine the biggest plot hole of the game.

[@ALsabeast145]

+Vincent Valentine think about it, a huge guy in a tank, with a mini gun, an expert sniper, a psychokinesis genius, and none of these people could kill a single soldier, even if it is snake. Maybe they let him win, for the plan to work

[@Dre2Dee2]

He knew Snake had the skills of Big Boss, so he wouldn't be so easily defeated. Which to your question, why even try? Simple: torture. He wanted to torment Snake, for stealing his birthright. To kill Snake he knew there was only one man with the skills to beat Solid: himself.

[@revolverbossalot6176]

when in fact liquid was the ones with the dominate genes

[@TheShoeJr]

You thought it was Master Miller, BUT IT WAS I, LIQUID SNAKE!

[@Tadokolov]

You thought it was Master Miller, but it was me, Liquid Snake!

[@unrealtinec2398]

When this happend I was blown away. Then I was like ,,Master was behind this?" AND THEN MASTER was Liquid the whole time and I was even more blown away. Greatest plot twist I ever witnessed

[@Lionheart-cr1fk]

Damn I feel bad for miller now after playing peace walker and mgs5.

[@YABUKIJOE2077]

He was a real one. Sort of, since he worked behind Big Boss’ back in PW

[@Lionheart-cr1fk]

@@YABUKIJOE2077 agreed 👍

[@GRGCompletionist]

The voice acting in this game was way ahead of its time!

[@petrossteadilious]

Before the reveal i thought Master Miller was just being sarcastic at first 😅

[@kennethnwebb]

Ocelot "accidentally" killed him

[@brycejohansen7114]

Liquid: "As you can see Snake, this has gone all according to plan" Snake: "So when you sent Vulcan Raven in a giant tank to stop me... was that a part of the plan?" Liquid: "Yep" Snake: "Or when you nuked the top of the communication tower with the Hind-D while I was on it holding the card?" Liquid: "Yep" Snake: "Or when Ocelot shot it out of my hand, potentially losing it in a drainage ditch containing radioactive waste" Liquid: "Yep" Snake: " _Riiiiiiiiiiight_ " Liquid: "All according to plan"

[@cyberb4rcode572]

HAHAHAHA that was exactly what i thought the first time i saw this scene

[@tbowie614]

When I first heard Campbell said the transmission was coming inside the base I got goosebumps lol.

[@danixdefcon5]

"It's coming from inside the house!!!!"

[@DrasticFox2004]

This honestly shocked me to begin with. Like how the Game Gear version of Sonic the Hedgehog 2 had another ending where Tails might be DEAD.

[@charleshines3378]

The calls are coming from inside the house!

[@K20civicsirturbo]

Just imagine being 6 years old playing this back in 98'

[@evanabbott2737]

I was 12 I think when I played and beat this when it first came out...it was the first game that I was totally immersed in. Really cool times!😁👍

[@RazorEdge2006]

The biggest plot twist in gaming was the "Colonel" twist in MGS2.

[@alixvapp]

"I think, you've been to an AI." "That's impossible !" "But that's probably the truth." That shit scared me...

[@kingkoop28]

Fission Mail!

[@bigbossiswatchingyou4624]

@@kingkoop28 Fission Mailed*

[@sobeksuwek]

At first I tought it was an alien lol

[@Aceg13579]

Yes

[@warhammernerd52Daxx-Lorenzo898]

*Imagine if this was all just a prank, and the mission was on April Fool's Day*