Our Thoughts on the 2024 Rogue Invitational | Strongman News

[@Adamrawlifting123]

Damn Liz looks in great shape.

[@Freshprankstv1]

Got those heavies my guy

[@shake4259]

​@@Freshprankstv1😂

[@travLee7]

Liz with the guns out today. 💪🏻

[@johanbarnard3435]

My favorite moment by a landslide was Luke Stoltman winning the overhead press event in front off a Scottish crowd! I'm not even Scottish but man that felt special. For a guy who many count out and have had things to say like he should retire and he is a "has been". He definitely proved he is still one off the best in the world

[@adamh6730]

He almost had Tom and Thor beat on the final event! Luke looked in great shape

[@u04pww2]

Shame he was bumming people behind his wife's back

[@chabum81]

After the load & drag, Tom was the only one getting up right away, speaks for his improved fitness

[@jtf2dan]

or that he didnt put as much effort in....

[@crazy10bears]

Not true, Hooper got up right away as well.

[@keithhogg7228]

@@jtf2dan did well to win that event without putting much effort in then ..................

[@antoniocenteno1483]

​@@crazy10bearsBro was half a minute slower tho

[@bigslimdog1350]

I thought Rogue was fantastic. Watched from home on KZbin and couldn't believe the quality of the footage. Loved the events, especially the 5 athletes out on the medley together. Big Loz was class on commentary 💪

[@rmur4820]

Not sure what the issue with the buzzer is. It seems that it is a sure way to document the time accurately. I enjoyed this breakdown. Loz and Liz are the voice of the Strongman/woman sports and I appreciate them both for bringing the fans news and insights.

[@Bouper66]

I understood that the button didn’t actually stop the clock, and it was still up to the ref. I must have heard that wrong - wouldn’t make sense

[@77slate]

It was a massive improvement from last year. Inez was phenomenal and happy to see her get the 1st big win under her belt. Mitch smashed it again.

[@adamcroker_hg]

What you two have willed into existence is absolutely amazing! 10 years ago, if you had said to me that people could make the strength world a full-time endeavor, I would have been doubtful. You guys are proof that hard work and passion can go a long way! Hope you guys had fun, and thank you for all you guys do!

[@shahaf75]

Inez was freaking amazing! She was beyond impressive.

[@rachelmcewan3941]

I still remember the first time I became aware of Inez, OSG a few years back, the log press for reps, I would have replayed her performance 3-4 times, she is unreal.

[@1341usmc]

I like the stop button. It’s time strongman got with the times (lol) and used a better system. The stopwatch introduces human error and reaction times of the official into the athlete’s performance. Just look at Sam and Mel’s photo finish on the power stairs. Fractions of a second matter. They’ll get the start signal figured out and the athletes will mentally make the stop button a part of their game plan for each event. It’ll be so much better for competitive equity.

[@Micheldied]

I think it makes no sense when there are split times taken by stopwatch for each implement before the end. That being said, I like that organizers are trying towards being better, even if it was awkward this time.

[@adamh6730]

The replay we used to watch Samantha hit the buzzer first is enough technology to confirm the winner without added gimmicks in my opinion. I also can't recall a list of close calls we could have evaded if only we'd had that button? Are we trying to fix something that's not broken?

[@antoniocenteno1483]

There is a way to make those issues disappear without the button though. Make the event so heavy just some of them will finish lolololol. Now, jokes aside, that's why I love the Arnold's, you hardly gonna get the guys to move as fast

[@aeis3007]

Why use a stopwatch when you have everything recorded on film. Just look at the film time.

[@rescyn1190]

Pointing out Tom's conditioning on the power drive... he was the only one of 2 men who wasn't dying on the floor after it... the other was Mitch. Just needs to sort those last bits of his head out.

[@mrgaudy1954]

Assuming he sorts his lower back issue out and his diet & conditioning continue to improve we could see an absolute monster in Tom next year. The fact he has improved his fitness so quickly with the new coach is frightening.

[@jasminewaakaaaronjackson7661]

Love seeing our Kiwi boy doing well! Also, Inez split jerk technique on the axle was amazing

[@MeanBob_Games]

Inez is so fast. She is strong too but when she can use her speed to the greatest magnitude it is a real difference maker. So great to see her win, I've followed her since her second show.

[@travLee7]

Support strongman and women instead of looking so hard for issues in a contest, folks. Rouge was awesome. Red button was great!!

[@scottiebuchanan2102]

😢boo Hoo 😢

[@meatsweatmundungus6415]

I loved the rouge button at rogue

[@johnsterizer]

​@@meatsweatmundungus6415I didn't know what you meant the first time I red your comment.

[@teamrogers1047]

The red button is stupid. You’re gonna have guys lose time on something that has nothing to do with strength, which is ultimately what the competition is about.

[@frederickknapp5340]

Liz, love the shirt.

[@adamdavies1872]

Loved the whole event. Getting to shake your hand and say how much of a fan I was, was a highlight of the weekend. Even if it did mean waiting outside the toilet like a strange stalker 😅 I was gutted I wasn't wearing my big loz shirt that day.

[@gustavhviid4673]

That’s a true fan who does that! I’ve done the same once with a crossfit athlete!

[@andrewgilbertson5356]

Great weekend of strength

[@daltonmason62]

It was a great all around show, but Liz is definitely stealing the show in this video! 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@Oliver-q3x]

Loving the attire in this video.

[@dean1807]

I went to the RI and absolutely loved it! I’m a strongman, strongwoman and CrossFit fan so it was perfect. The strongman show was much better than last years. Seen a few complaints about the buzzer which I wasn’t a massive fan of, but if that’s all we’ve got to moan about then that’s a great sign. Shout out to the athletes as well. Athletes from all of the sports were incredibly approachable and friendly. I met Tom, Pavlo and a few of the CrossFit athletes. Spoke to Bobby Thompson at the airport and he was very complimentary towards Loz as a coach.

[@jasonmifsud7072]

I agree Liz looks in amazing shape.. Loz looks like a beast. ❤❤

[@shawnofkansas]

For years I’ve been watching. Loz and Loz and Liz. I always look forward to each and every video they put out. Always top notch content and quality.

[@GabbieScanlon]

Great recap video, loved that you discussed the women's rogue performance as much as the men's. I've seen other creator's rogue videos not mentioning them much at all which is really disappointing! I loved the comp and all your videos - thanks Loz & Liz! ❤️

[@michaelholder98]

I LOVE that Mitch finished off the Circus Medley even though he knew he had won the overall comp! That gained so much respect and officially made me a huge fan of his. Then his speech about his kid just sealed the deal. Hats off Mitch, no one can talk shit about you brother. Marine Mike 🇺🇸 💪

[@robertturner2475]

LIZ!!!!!!!!!! You look absolutely amazing! Love you both, thanks for the content.

[@PhotonJon]

What a year! Cheers as always for the excellent coverage. And yes I want Liz’s shirt too! 😆

[@jesusespana8]

Mitch says he doesn’t believe Thor’s pressing improved. I understand why but also the Arnold was just an axle press as opposed to the fact the Invitational was a medley. I think Thor has improved his strength, I just also think he needs the confidence.

[@Nolan-55]

Ya I think his strength was nearly there. That first log and the DB press were easy as fuck. I think it's more conditioning and confidence at this point.

[@jesusespana8]

they really were. Plus, having to shake it off and run to the event did not help him lol but he is going to be amazing next year

[@lf67hh28]

If Thor can recover his pressing, Mitch comes second in every competition. The maths doesn't lie. 🤷‍♂️

[@sergiupobereznic]

@@lf67hh28 That's presuming that Mitch has stopped improving, which he hasn't. He hasn't yet peaked as a strongman. Thor took several years to peak (6 to 8 years). And Mitch is currently working on his own weaknesses.

[@ravensdark99]

I think what makes Mitch so strong is, the other including Thor have to constantly be perfect in every event to be first. Hooper comes in second or 3rd even if he messes up. When other people mess up usually they come last. And even if Thor would have full pushing power (which I hope he will because we all want to see him as good as possible)..there is no way he will be 1st or 2nd in every event because Hooper will always be faster. And lastly..Hooper likely does more events than anyone else and still pulls of such a performance..THAT is the really insane part for me....that is bonkers

[@MR-ly4xt]

Rogue was a superb competition, very exciting. I liked it being indoors and the arena was amazing. Great to see the women's competition this year. I hope Rogue employ a better American commentator next year who actually knows the competitor's names. Loz was excellent as usual.

[@samarthur1847]

Not sure if Tom Stoltman has had a lot of criticism, he has just been overshadowed (unfairly imho) by the return of Thor. Great to see Thor back, but Tom has not disappeared, hopefully social media will acknowledge him more. Great video as always, thank you 😊

[@outcAst13]

genuinely shocked people are unaware Tom is injured, literally has a spinal injury and still performing

[@lf67hh28]

Thor is owning him, whilst also injured. Look at their placings while both fully fit...it's not comparable lol. 😂

[@aeis3007]

My prediction, Tom will peek for WSM. I don’t think we will see full Tom till that comp. Thor, Mitch and Mitch (minus one event) will be great in the Arnold.

[@lf67hh28]

@aeis3007 Need to see if Tom survives his brothers scandal. Luke will be dropped by Giants Live and sponsors, and they are a package deal.

[@aeis3007]

@@lf67hh28 I’m not going to and hope others do not, make any decisions until more information comes out. Either way, I hope it doesn’t hurt Tom too bad.

[@nedflanders2740]

excited for next year

[@douglasnisbet1189]

Thor's deadlift and stone run were so impressive. I seriously hope he gets back his pressing power. Personally I like the buzzer when the events are lighter. Takes away any human element of error during the timing.

[@jeremysanders8766]

Hafthor 💪 The Mountain 💪

[@dontyouworryaboutit_]

halfthor the thor

[@prdoyle]

I didn't like the buttons at first, but you and Mitch have convinced me

[@Bmxae]

Overall the competition was great. A few minor critiques: 1. Men and women on the medley, weird. 2. Yoke too light. 3. They rushed the athletes at the beginning of events. Threw people off. 4. The kettlebell is a shoulder dislocation waiting to happen. FREE show, excellent commentary, cool variable events, huge prize purse, great lineup (minus trey and mateus).

[@aarons3014]

I think Rogue has carved out an identity for their comp as "Most Fit Strength Athlete." Compare to WSM - premier event, best all-rounder; or SMOE - heaviest event, greatest test of static strength. I agree that the Arnold's team needs to decide what their identity is.

[@tabortime.entertainment]

The Arnold is already well-established as the premier heavy show, and has been for 23 years- SMOE is certainly the heaviest but the crazy amount of zeros there this year proves that's not always the most balanced way to find out who is strongest

[@Kragatar]

lol I like Liz's "lift heavyish" shirt.

[@Kasurale]

I liked the 5 doing yoke/power stairs. Very exciting.

[@Micheldied]

That Thor story makes sense now. Thor's pressing strength may not be back, but usually his clean is really strong. He was struggling more than normal on the cleans during the log event.

[@antoniocenteno1483]

Lizzie been all sweet trying to calm us, ravaging Tom and Thor fans, debating over the KING OF THE STONES

[@barryadcock7332]

Great show much better than last years being indoors.

[@lauraw2402]

Rogue was great! Awesome for the women to be on big stage like that. CrossFit was also surprisingly Enjoyable between the events.

[@mistycrom]

I liked the buttons. I actually think that they could implement them for starting event timers too; if the athletes are holding the button down and releasing it starts the timer, then press another - or the same - button to stop the timer, there can be no questioning of timers really. And if one athlete is a little slower off the mark, it isn't effecting them. Hafthor's reaction to being reminded about the button at the end of the stones was funny. For me, on the power-drive, Thor and Mitch were kind of the opposite. I'd expected Thor to be quicker with the 'bale', and Mitch on the sled pull. And yeah, a rare mistake letting us know that Mitch is human after-all. I loved the yoke into power-stairs. Was surprised at Hafthor's lack of pace on the yoke. Sam really showed how dominant she is with dumbell pressing with that kettle-bell press. Also, a shame Thor struggled with it so much... he did well with the overhead. Sure, peak Thor would be finishing the event, but showed his shoulder's progress there to me. Was great to see Tom Evans and Luke do well, and seeing Tom on good form too. And yet again, made me excited for Thor's overhead to come back to as good as he can get it... we might well see some real wars between him and Mitch. The women's comp was amazing also. Angelica I think cost herself a podium spot by underestimating herself on the deadlift... awesome to see Inez with a big win. I didn't expect her to do badly at-all, but didn't have her as a podium finisher, and she... well, she had a Hooper-like performance. Did no-one tell Inez that the implements were supposed to be heavy? How many times are people going to be getting confused between people talking about Rayno and Rauno now? lol

[@Nolan-55]

Im going to have the opposite opinion of most. I think Thors pressing power is nearly back. The way he moved that first log and that DB, looked very easy. Im guessing its more conditioning and confidence. Whatever OH is at the arnold im predicting now he will be top 5.

[@Ripcookiethief]

I think top 5 is doable.

[@sandeepjayakumar3680]

Loved the Men's performance, but blown away by the women!!! Too exciting!! Not at all a on-sided event in case of the men.Hooper came on top. as expected❤ Well deserved Inez!! She looked so strong and amazing!!!❤❤❤❤

[@franz61xxl13]

AWESOME EXCITING COMP; Strongwomen AND Strongmen head to head, GREAT !!! To hit the button should be mandatory for accurate timing !!! Giants live and WSM should adapt to it ! P.S. LOZ and Sean absolute best commentating ! !

[@ShakotanZero]

8:14 agreed with you Loz. It’s just growing pains. I don’t see the big deal. Puts more control in the athletes court.

[@jlalonde1000]

Rogue and loz did amazing on this show i like button idea as they can post time faster competitors will get used to it fast i think i enjoyed this show the most this year

[@whodat7211]

Sad not to see Oleksii Novikov. Hope he returns in good shape next year.

[@petershortland478]

Tbh he hasn't been in good shape for a long time he shouldn't have done so many comps

[@jtf2dan]

Hooper....TEN POINT LEAD!....not even CLOSE!

[@JaceLovesStrength]

That shirt is amazing ish!

[@SomeYouTubeGuy]

Quick story for you. I've been looking for a birthday present for my coach and she mentioned not liking her current lifting straps so after watching Lucy Underdown smash the deadlift I dropped her a message on Instagram asking what straps she used. I expected I might get a reply on Tuesday if I was lucky. Not 30 mins later she replied. I jumped onto Industry Internationals site to order them. Had a bit of an issue with shipping which was sorted by their customer support team in 3 emails and I've ordered them. Plus it's still 3 weeks before my coaches birthday so I'm set.

[@walk-york]

Lift heavy-ish, be amicable. Mitch's new range?

[@PronatorTendon]

I appreciate these videos

[@bobbydaglish25]

I loved the events and the 5 athletes at same time etc I also think Tom has a lot more than what we saw weekend. Once his new coaching team sets a winter training plan i expect him to show who he is by adding a 4th title Now Luke was for me the most impressive athlete at this show, pressing event was outstanding Luke looking good for British

[@Ostrolphant]

If the goal was to take the human element out of timing there should have been a switch for the sled pull instead of a button. Otherwise I get the button.

[@wolf359loki]

IMHO I thing Rouge did a great job and sure added a few thigs to try and maybe some stick and others fall away. But moving in the right directions. I also think The Shaw Classic has made promotors (Rouge, Giants, ect) look at adding more and more interesting events mixed in with new takes on old classics. Looking forward to the 2025 season.

[@petershortland478]

Shaw Classic is still miles away since it has made mistakes every year

[@Jordy-927]

Inez was so much bigger and stronger this year. She smashed it. Always love the Rogue show. Both of my favourite sports in one big event.

[@JoMRidleybean]

Great content as always Liz and loz :) Thoughts: I like the buttons, adds a bit of drama. Not a fan of the boxes for the push and carry, I think it should just be over the line. Having the women and men next to each other was a great idea, adds a bit of comradery and gets more eyes on the women's side. AND being streamed online. Strongman being dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century. Awesome stuff

[@jarheadcoffee]

hell yeah!

[@dlmjorge]

Hard disagree on the button. The onus should be on the event organizers/arbiters to accurately measure the athlete's time. You would never see a button at the end of a track meet, or a timer in a goal keeper's pocket.

[@JBS7551]

Exactly

[@sippachu9721]

Giants live could have one of their shows be more like this, having combo events and getting more types in

[@mikeuuuytffvghjjoopoiytf]

my only concern with the button press is existing records will be very difficult to beat given the timer stopped instantly for them. Other than that it should be the standard and the athletes will adapt to it quickly

[@emperomassinencambio...9941]

Something that seems to scape most people radar is that this comp didn't bring major injuries. I am glad all the guys finished on a high note and healthy.

[@Kamyen316]

Liz asserting dominance with the sleeveless. Even has the wide arm stance pushing Loz off to the side 😂

[@TheSLK66]

I think Hooper could have finished 1st in the circus medley had he wanted. The log mistake cost him 1st in the log, so he had it in him to get 3 1st places out of six events.

[@geebutteree4755]

Great weekend, really enjoyed watching and it’s definitely inspired me, to get my arse in the gym more, stand out moment for me was Luke smashing the circus medley, 🌶 well done all athletes, amazing to watch 🫶🏼🫶🏼

[@Kamyen316]

I enjoyed back in the days when there were numerous athletes doing power stairs. Great to see it. Especially when Mariousz was blistering up those stairs 😂

[@TyVince-p6r]

Remember the year they made them go up like twenty fucking stairs and Mariusz was the only one that completed it? A couple of the athletes looked like they were going to die.

[@Kamyen316]

@TyVince-p6r it looked great though! I don't mind these 4 to 5 man going at once

[@Jordanwoodstrongman]

I was about to comment about the 105k class doing 900 yoke and then you said it. On that subject I think last years WSM deadlift ladder and the OSG 105k class deadlift ladder is way too close in weight

[@Jdorty]

The button was great for the power stairs for sure. But it seems pretty useless in events with 1-2 people at a time that also have a very clear finish line. It seemed especially useless for something like the stones. One person, clear cut finish and no ref having to call 'down' for form. Giving the time control to the athletes is great in general, but if there are zero benefits for the event, it's just another things for the athletes to worry about and *slightly* takes away from the finish/celebration. Despite that, as a viewer I didn't really have super strong feelings about it, just seems like something that would be better for certain events than others.

[@simondean5227]

Red button is perfect, puts it in the athletes' hands

[@robertjenny1973]

I loved the addition of the button. Definitely think it's on the athletes to hit it. But, they will get the hang of it if other comps add it to their comps. It takes out the question of, did the athlete get cheated by the judge.

[@WinstonGoldstein]

The Competition was great, (apart from having to watch Crossfitters when the Strongman/Woman event times were delayed) 😂 Changes Id like to see for next time: 1. Ditch the red button. This is like a finish line for a race, but no one is running in Strongman. If the refs can't press stop on a stopwatch (they can) then are they able to adequately referee a movement and lockout? 2. Men and Women should not compete side by side. Ive heard that it was to promote Strongwomen as a sport but this does not achieve that goal. Strongwomen should have their own events and their own platform, somewhat patronising to put them on with the men to attract more "eyes" on their sport. 3. Camera angles were set up for crossfit and made it hard to see who was ahead with events such as powerstairs. Rogue has the money but Giants has the better competitions. Hopefully they can learn from each other.

[@prmitiive]

2 reasons I don't like 5 people going at a time.. it makes the event go by so much faster which means I get to enjoy it for less time, and I cant keep up with everyone's performance while watching it in real time. 2 people (or 3?) at a time feels right to me!

[@Jules-vf1zq]

I loved the red button!

[@LogHewer]

It's not hard to press a button. But it does ruin the moment, for me. I like seeing the guys drop the weight and celebrate rather than dive for a buzzer. If events turn into drag races and times are too close for a stopwatch, make it heavier.

[@murphy990]

I wish thor had made a "the king has lost his crown" comment regarding the stones

[@TyVince-p6r]

Thor wouldn't do that because Tom is still the best ever on stones.

[@murphy990]

@TyVince-p6r yeah and he's not the type to do it. Just would be a nice Icelandic reference to Jon Pall

[@commentwarrior]

​@@TyVince-p6rThor won 2 stone events against Tom this year, Tom won 1. 2>1

[@TyVince-p6r]

@@commentwarrior Doesn't mean anything. Thor does not compete in GiantsLive and can't beat Tom at Atlas Stones.

[@commentwarrior]

@@TyVince-p6r Did you watch smoe? Manhood stones are atlas stones.

[@YannMetalhead]

Good video.

[@goldilox811]

Crazy to hear Luke Stoltman cheated on his wife with multiple men and women while he has a sick 9-month old son. Sick person really

[@Nick-cy2tn]

He has been living in Toms shadow for years anyway, hopefully he disappears now

[@Marcel16DM]

Women's side of the sport is great right now. 3 different winners in the 3 biggest comps. Mitch makes the mens side very boring and not really worth watching at the moment though.

[@codyryanlifts]

Red button was the best part, love taking human error out of the equation

[@ambruszoltan752]

Especially remebering the last year WSM Bus Pull from 2. to 6. in 0.4 sec. :)

[@codyryanlifts]

@@ambruszoltan752 exactly! I mean they went to the cameras to get an accurate time for that event. But using the button you see the time instantly and that's good for live feed

[@spiritfingers98]

I think there's way better ways of doing that.

[@WinstonGoldstein]

Pressing a button to officially complete an event is ridiculous imo

[@hulkthedane7542]

The way I see it, the button introduced way more room for human error...... Good thing, it did not make any real difference. At least this time. I think, that if Rogue/any organizer would instruct the athletes in advance, that there is going to be such a contraption, it may eliminate some referee faults/hand over more of the responsibility to the athletes. But give them time to get used to it in their training, do not just dump it on them by surprise.

[@lf67hh28]

As I've always said, Thor is by far the strongest ' but Mitch is the best eventer. Mitch knows he isn't stronger, but he is consistent. Thor could take any DL record he wants and knows it. Thor is losing too many points on pressing events, if he gets back to 85% of what he could previously lift, he wins every comp. People may disagree but it is a mathematical fact.

[@timbeech2056]

Evan did look better, he looked a bit heavier too; maybe to help with the axle cleans? Nice to see him moving in the right direction because he has so much potential. Pavlo was a bit disappointing. On paper these looked like good events for him

[@adamh6730]

Button and all things that merged this more with a Crossfit contest get a 👎 from this fan but that's not enough to spoil how awesome this show was overall 🤘💪What a fun contest to watch

[@clintbaker01]

I don't mind the longer video's, yall don't seem as rushed to get all of the news out.

[@scotf7313]

Tom and Luke both getting fitter and stronger. Hooper looks like his body is struggling to do what his brain wants.

[@branominal]

Even if Mitch zeroed the kettlebell, he would have shared points with hoath and pavlo, giving him 2 points and the win

[@Sanquharwarrior682]

I spoke to Evan on the Sunday just before I met you guys and he was not a fan of it at all. His opinion on it was not PG 😂😂

[@vojtechkorhon4159]

I think the button is an improvement because it makes the final time dependent on the athletes themselves instead of the referee, but it is an uncool way to do it. PS: I kind of wish we could have seen Mitch, Thor and Tom doing the tiebreaker event. That would have been the coolest end to a competition I can think of.

[@robertthompson8199]

I would have like to see what Trey Mitchell would have done at this competition

[@user-lx2xr4no2q]

Lift heavy-ish. Be fairly kind.

[@heidigee9064]

💪🏻

[@christianchapman9420]

Lizzy is looking fine ❤

[@marcusorillius6971]

Cool 🫘!!😎

[@jonnylieberman]

I’m pro-buzzer

[@matthewcincotta62]

No zeroes at Rogue so the tie breaker wasn’t really on the table if Mitch missed the kettlebell

[@tabascojoe77]

💪💪💪

[@marcusorillius6971]

I think Liz is right. Shorter arm not ideal for that huge kettle bell.

[@daviesugo7641]

Loz's shirt kinda sus.

[@michaels.2331]

I think the button should be blue.

[@rumblerumble2276]

I liked the red button.