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[@benjulesrun9057]

"Help! I indoctrinated my kid as hard as I could and it didn't work" is wild

[@professorfoxtrot]

We must protect kids from predatory perverts in the LGBTQ community

[@rosieg6989]

@@professorfoxtrot Being born lgbt does not make someone predatory or a pervert. Every single group of people has bad apples, but lgbt people don't have a higher percentage than other groups.

[@TheDarwinProject1]

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[@Magic_Skeleton]

I was one of those kids, can confirm I still ended up gay ahahahahaaahahahahahahhaahahahahhhahahahahhahahahhahhhhahahhhaaaahahaahhahhahahahah * *ptsd flashbacks* *

[@JosilyneTwigg]

​@@professorfoxtrot We must protect kids from ACTUAL predators in churches, the clergy, and people of power We must protect kids from the people who want to take others rights away and allow for discrimination and bullying that leads to depression and s*icidality We must protect kids from potentially ab*sive parents (including unsupportive ones, which IS ab*se) and the potential of they being homeless if they happen to be kicked out for who they are We must protect them from capital punishment, like hittings and "spankings" which have been proven to be ab*sive, ineffective, and have lasting trauma connected to them We must protect them from people like you who don't know what they're talking about about and try to indicate them into cults or baby factories if they happen to not want kids of theif own We must protect them from state higher-ups that vote to keep child marriage and ban abortions, who agree with forced birth, and ban proper education so they dont know when they're being s*xually ab*sed or a*sulted We must protect them from parents who use their image online for profit and exploitative entertainment There are so many ACTUAL problems we have to protect kids from, and LGBT people are not one of them Just because someone is different from you doesn't make them predatory, just because YOU decide

[@dogearflopper7011]

In 20 years, these same parents will be wondering why their kids never call. And they'll blame the woke media.

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

Yeah i can see that happening i like when dude can't get a date and that they blame feminism instead of changing for the better to not be sexist, misogynist, assholle

[@jesusgarza7960]

​@@JadeMartin-hd4pwno cuz they still could access their kids regadless. Like "woke media" may have liberated their kid but the parents still have to adjust . I know ur not blaming the media I'm saying that the parents still go to try

[@jesusgarza7960]

Yeah lol fr ​@@USSAnimeNCC-

[@fionafiona1146]

I'd imagine they finde a new word to abuse

[@candyh4284]

@@fionafiona1146 they're still calling bernie sanders a communist five decades after the huac closed, so I doubt it

[@LilFeralGangrel]

Parents far too often: How do I make my child's identity about me?

[@HotRose599]

“Or force my opinions onto my children”

[@professorfoxtrot]

How about making the identity about biology

[@SymphonicElectric]

and my mother wonders why we don't have a good relationship :)

[@t3hwaddledee]

@@professorfoxtrothow about learning some biology beyond your middle school science courses? You’ll find out about all sorts of things, like women who are actually XY and may never even know. Chromosome inheritance isn’t determined by a simple fuckin 4x4 square mate. You’ve got the internet I bet, you might be on it right now, look it up, you can do it! The term is “intersex” and it’s believed that more people are intersex than realize it, because the range of chromosomal wackiness that can happen is surprisingly large.

[@HenrySimmons1225]

​@@t3hwaddledee Bro if you're intersex, you're intersex, you'll know it. And it rarely happens.

[@freckledandred]

I know so many women that are like "I was a lesbian but I met a good man and got over it" like.... So you're bisexual. Ugh so frustrating

[@The1stPurpleCat]

I had a pastor’s wife come and talk to all the girls in Youth Group about attraction. She said that romantic feelings are just intense platonic feelings (no???). She also said it was “completely normal” for a woman to find another woman physically and/or romantically attractive, but it’s unacceptable and unnatural to cross the platonic/romantic line with another woman. My aroace butt had to hold back from saying “NO?!?” Being attracted towards women is NOT something every woman experiences. Oh yeah, btw. Her parents are lesbians. But she is extremely homophobic, and blame her super loving and supportive kind moms for making her childhood less complete by not having a father… not anything specific about that, just that she felt like her childhood would be better if she had a dad. Also, she runs a foundation that says it fights for children’s right!… children’s rights are to have a father and mother, so single parents shouldn’t have kids and a kid with no parents is better than one with gay parents. Also, parents have the right to control their kids. Yay!

[@CATmetchu]

​@@The1stPurpleCatman I already don't respect her 😅 rather be shameless than plastic. I have more respect for the ppl who flash their tits in front of gay convert camps than whatever this woman does.

[@thegrandxbunny2073]

@@The1stPurpleCat The comeback, “Counterpoint: Your moms,” was literally RIGHT THERE! (I’m sorry it’s just too funny.)

[@The1stPurpleCat]

@@thegrandxbunny2073 NOO! I couldn’t! 🤣 I should have tho! I’m literally the pastors daughter… well… sorta? My dad’s been a pastor my whole life. At that church specifically, he was taking on the role of pastor’s right hand man, and youth pastor, and music director, and head musician. And my mom was the Sunday School teacher. My parents are super homophobic, and everyone at the church was super homophobic. I was still a very scared child who didn’t wanna come out. Plus, being a pastor’s kid my whole life, it’s a very unique and terrible experience, and you have certain expectations from others. However, if I could go back to that church, I really wanna hear that lady say something homophobic, so I can say, “counterpoint: your moms”.

[@Justin-pe9cl]

I’m bisexual too but I only like women.

[@Wonderoddity]

Imagine a DOCTOR telling you to love your child and let them embrace who they are and you’re like “nah.” 💀💀 HOW

[@MmmmJuicy]

That's a big problem with religion. A lot of popular religions are anti-LGBTQ+ and the followers of these religions tend to genuinely believe in them so they see it as "I just can't accept and allow this no matter what" and it genuinely harms people. I for one will follow the advice of competent doctors. Any child of mine wouldn't have such issues with acceptance, but, I have no kids and will probably never have any kids. Not physically able to have kids. But, the parent inside me gets SO angry at some "parents". Your child is your child. You love them regardless of your own personal beliefs. Your job as a parent is to seek the advice of people who actually know what they're talking about if you don't know what to do. This means doctors and scientists and such, not common folk who have read one book or common folk who have barely read any books. Unlike religion, science is willing to change if new evidence supports it or it's found the previous evidence was false, tampered with, or biased by corporate greed. This means wrong previous scientific beliefs can and do change.

[@professorfoxtrot]

Imagine a doctor treating a patient for mental illness.

[@disrespecc9678]

a doctor refers to more than just the sickness and disease people@@professorfoxtrot

[@professorfoxtrot]

@@disrespecc9678 Doctors need to help trans people that they are faking it.

[@Hypnos132]

@@professorfoxtrotdoctor by definition is person skilled or specializing in healing arts. especially : one (such as a physician, dentist, or veterinarian) who holds an advanced degree and is licensed to practice. So your comment is wrong

[@candyh4284]

"That is SO not what God had in mind!!" One of the MAJOR plot points in the bible is that nobody knows what God's plan is, He "works in mysterious ways." Awfully considerate of God to randomly decide to disavow the people that these people already didn't like.

[@and-allthat-jazz]

As a Christian myself, I fully completely agree with you here!!! As an English major, something about the phrase “plot points” makes me laugh so hard, that’s hilarious

[@candyh4284]

@@and-allthat-jazz When you REALLY think about it, who is Jesus if not the first Mary-Sue?

[@missZoey5387]

These are people who believe they can "know" God's plan for their life by praying and reading their Bible. "God's plan" is just confirmation bias that is justified as a spiritual thing.

[@rainbowfranklin]

​@@candyh4284I cannot believe that you just called Jesus a Mary Sue. His entire purpose to exist is suffering and to understand Humanity better. He is an empathy experiment because God realized that he didn't actually understand us. He struggled, he was imperfect, he faced the fear of death just like we do and realized from our perspective he is an incomprehensible monster.

[@candyh4284]

@@rainbowfranklin He also walked on water and cured leprosy with his hands (NOT an approved treatment by the AMA), son of God or not, the Guy's a Mary Sue.

[@emma123abc]

for people who preach about love... they cant even love their own kids

[@gsnaponfire]

My father literally gave me the worst definition of love I could think of after I told him what love means to me. I have now cut ties with them at the age of 32.

[@arcadiaberger9204]

@@gsnaponfire So sad, so sad, so damned sad. My uncle has a trans son. At a family gathering, he told me, "I really don't understand this transgender stuff", and I was about to say, "It's not your job to understand them, just to love them", but I was too slow - he said, "But I just love him and hang on."

[@TextbookSadass]

​@@arcadiaberger9204 Your uncle is a good man, he doesn't understand but he doesn't care. He still loves his son. Unless you mean that 'hang on' means 'wait for him to go back to normal' in which case he needs work

[@arcadiaberger9204]

@@TextbookSadass No, I think he meant hanging on and waiting for his heart to be settled.

[@TextbookSadass]

@@arcadiaberger9204 Hope so

[@shadowstar5818]

The prodigal son reference wasn't even accurate. The prodigal sons father gave him his inheritance and celebrated when he came home after squandering it. There was absolutely nothing about letting the son be miserable. The son learned on his own what he did wrong. There was no being told he messed up. Plus, the prodigal son wasn't gay. He just wanted to party and abandon all of his responsibilities. That argument wouldn't be right if it was accurate.

[@ghidxrah2102]

But if they don't lie about what the story is saying they can't use it to hate their children

[@anamelchior7194]

these people will bend the Bible as much as possible to justify their sh1tty actions

[@annataymond9529]

Yeah the prodigal son is a father letting his son suffer the natural consequences of his mistakes and learn from them. At no point does he issue arbitrary punishment or shun him in any way. It’s about one kid learning the hard way, and the other being frustrated by it. There’s really not much actual conflict outside of maybe some internal conflict.

[@bluntizard4481]

It was written by a facebook Karen in a bigoted space. Don't expect smart references 😂

[@liallialcroc]

yeah like the whole point was the dad encouraged the son no matter what the son did lowkey lol

[@catrakitten]

Instead of ranting about their kids's sexuality and showing their bigotry on Facebook, they should get therapy to become better people. And nice earings, Kiwi.

[@BooklikesBFDI]

I read that as "and get nice earrings" and I was so confused😭😭 guess the conservatives can't have good earrings now

[@candyh4284]

Can't. They're supremacists by nature of their christian nationalism, and supremacy in itself is a flawed ideology that has no rational justification, so they resort to increasingly large delusions to justify these deeply-held beliefs, including a blatant disregard for contrary opinions -- if you knew you were already right, would you listen when someone said you weren't?

[@professorfoxtrot]

We need to protect Children from LGBTQBBQ predators

[@shigushigu741]

Yet another based take from someone with a Shadow profile pic

[@professorfoxtrot]

@@shigushigu741 They need to cancel drag time grooming hour

[@arid8303]

People who really “know the bible inside and out” usually end up leaving the religion

[@chickadeestevenson5440]

can confirm

[@frankwilson3265]

Indeed. Someone who enjoys reading a book of fairytales where two daughters got their father so drunk that he would sleep with them would have very disturbing tastes, but would expect to be greeted by like-minded deviants when he finds a meeting house of others who celebrate the text. Instead, he is met, quite rightly, by people who are abhorred by the tale. However, with a little inquiry, he finds that the vast majority of them don't even know the story is in there on account of never actually reading the book on which their club was based, instead preferring to simply enjoy its purpose as a meeting house to discuss hatred of (and superiority over) non-cult members and compare clothing on a Sunday morning.

[@mathewbrigman5592]

@@frankwilson3265what story are you referring to specifically?

[@WantSomeWhiskey818]

@@mathewbrigman5592 Genesis 19:33 “That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.” Its a really really weird passage and it seems to be there as a weird dunk on one the Moabites and Ammonites. Like “these tribes are so bad that the origins of them is incest, how messed up is that!” Deuteronomy later spells out punishments if Israelites interact with them on any level so there must’ve been some real historical beef between all of them, super interesting stuff.

[@cjboyo]

Can confirm lol

[@MrMind5]

Some of these people don't actually love their children, they love the concept of having a child.

[@stormthrush37]

That's it precisely.

[@trumpisaconfirmedcuck5840]

They want their kid(s) to be their mini me(s).

[@MethuselahWinter]

Oh yes, children are an accessory or social achievement to them. Not actually people

[@belias360]

That part ☝️

[@Mort-lf3gx]

5:15 "transformed by god" yeah thats what the hormones are for💁

[@fionafiona1146]

That's how IRAN officials interpret it, it'd be interesting to see a similarly isolated group of Christians to come to the same conclusion/contradiction Suni and Shia Islam currently have (they agree on murdering gay people)

[@SarastistheSerpent]

@@fionafiona1146historically Christians _did_ actually take that view of trans people. The famous homophobic televangelist Pat Robertson actually said it was okay for people to transition so long as it was approved and monitored by a doctor and Christians should accept trans people as their chosen gender. He got a lot of flack for saying that though. Many other older evangelical preachers also took that view. Transphobia is pretty new to Christianity.

[@gayternatee]

accidental ally of sorts

[@kathrynmyrick1739]

God compels some people to participate with Him in His holy act of creation.

[@arcadiaberger9204]

@@kathrynmyrick1739 That is why God gave us grain but not bread, gapes but not wine, trees but not houses, hemp but not paper - so we could play a small part in the glorious act of Creation: youtu [dot] be/YSsFcs8S4xM?si=StEMYcTasp0tZebr

[@YourLocalNirvanaFan]

The whole making a big fuss about pronouns was something my parents did with me. I've been out for almost three years now and I still get surprised at being gendered correctly because of how much my parents made me feel like a burden by being trans

[@anamelchior7194]

character growth I guess? Maybe there's still hope

[@chuuchuuutrain]

kurt pfp

[@jackiehuff7736]

Lol the pronoun thing is stupid. Guy straight up asked me ' what if they say their a bus or a duck?' Then their a bus or a duck, steve. I don't care, I'll call anybody anything they want. Doesn't effect me and makes them happy. 'But God says...' sounds like you got a pretty shitty God, Steve. Have you looked into Satanism? Their God sounds better. Lol Steve avoids me and I got a warning from my manager on religious tolerance. Apparently calling someone's God shitty is rude.

[@Rynodino]

My parents made a big enough fuss about my friend coming out that I’ve been out to everyone but them for years now. I’ll never tell them. It’s not worth it

[@ediesanchez2670]

I came out to my older sister as queer almost 4 years ago, and although she ‘accepted’ that part of me. When I asked her to start using ‘they/them’ pronouns, that was where she drew the line and refused to even try. She still misgenders me to this day. Sidenote: I also came out to my dad because I thought he would accept me. Ended up cutting contact with him, because he kept saying I wouldn’t have turned out gay and queer if I had only gone to church more often. Or had a better ‘less’ traumatized childhood. Which fun fact HE CONTRIBUTED to?? When I asked him to start using my pronouns he said “Why do I have to use them if you’re so secure in your identity??”. It’s a long story… But tldr please don’t be afraid to be who you truly are. I know there are some unsafe circumstances in which you can’t. Also know that there are people and friends out there who will love and accept you for who you are. For me at least. Found family has been the best.

[@moonblossom9433]

That woman having a problem with her daughter holding hands with her partner reminded me of this time I saw a woman walking down the street with her 3 little kids two boys and a girl, she was holding the hands of one of the boys and the girl and had told the other boy to hold his sister's hand but the boy wanted to hold his brothers hand instead, she told him no saying that boys can't hold hands with each other.

[@KireiC]

Parents giving their kids fragile masculinity, good gravy 🤦‍♀️

[@minachernobog]

This is so sad 😞 He just wanted to hold his brother's hand.

[@samwindmill8264]

But don't you know that little boys can be made gay by holding hands??? The HOMOSEXUALITY will overtake their minds 😢 and the sinful lifestyle will destroy their perfect God loving no greater joy spiritual warfare blah blah blah (sarcasm obviously)

[@pemanilnoob]

That almost feels like she thinks “two boys, gay” “girl and boy, straight”, as if she’s thinking about THAT with her kids.. I mean I can’t see any other explanation for it, and I’m horrified

[@kalaylaseehafer5195]

that is the wildest thing i have ever heard oml

[@LeftieLoosie]

The one about the trans cousin….. “oh no my child is starting to think for himself and evolve as a person!” The horror.

[@professorfoxtrot]

Parents need to step in and protect their children from becoming delusional

[@dorkyalien5059]

​@professorfoxtrot the only delusional one is you

[@KC-sd7nh]

​@professorfoxtrot being transgender isn't a delusional. It's just a thing that happens. Just like being intersex is a biological reality that can affect the development of organs, hormones, and chromosomes; so to is the intersexing of biological brains. You'll just have to learn to accept that it happens sometimes :)

[@christiancinnabars1402]

@professorfoxtrot Yeah, or we’ll end up with more people spamming comment threads of videos they hate with dumb mumbo jumbo. No offense.

[@professorfoxtrot]

@@KC-sd7nh thanks for the scientific explanation, which means absolutely nothing.

[@zephyrthorne266]

Fun story for positive vibes. My child yesterday told me her name was Julia not her birthname. She's 2 and liked the name from seseme Street and so i said "oh hi julia" she giggled and just kept saying Julia Julia Julia 😅 it was cute

[@arcadiaberger9204]

I went to a school where we did something different each week. One week, we each adopted a new name. We chose all sorts of names, from Dragon" to "Amersand" to "Big Sam". Mine was "Tyger" (spelling taken from William Blake's poem). One girl chose "Meadow". We all used our new names at school. We called each other by them. The teachers called us by them (they had new names, too). Some of us took our new names home and asked our families to call us by our new names, too. When the week was over, everyone went back to our old names . . . except for Meadow. She went on calling herself Meadow for the rest of the year, when the school dissolved. I met Meadow years later. She was married, and still went by Meadow. I told her that sometimes I wished I had stayed with Tyger.

[@llynxfyremusic]

​@arcadiaberger9204 that's really sweet. It's not too late to use tyger if you're serious about regretting it

[@saigetucker6054]

Aw

[@Mel12722]

Both the stories in these comments are so cute! Omg

[@TheMbmdcrew]

Reminds me of when I heard the name June from Little Einsteins and thought it was a pretty name and so when I was 7 I convinced a substitute teacher to call me June 😄

[@darthbane5676]

I’ve seen people joke about hand holding being way too lewd. Apparently that’s not even a joke with these people.

[@Overseer2579]

Well remember, for those people, that only applies to gays, lesbians, trans, bi people, etc. anyone not straight and cis

[@jeffersonclippership2588]

Well where do you think the joke came from?

[@darthbane5676]

@@jeffersonclippership2588 Good point lol

[@Emily-fe6yb]

@@darthbane5676 I was in a relationship with my youth pastors son when I was 16 before I knew I was lesbian. His mom got hysteric that we were making any contact at all and forbade hand holding and side hugs. He side hugged me and another girl once and got a two hour lecture where his mom told him I was going to corrupt him and all I wanted was sex. I was a sixteen year old virgin at the time and he had side hugged me goodbye outside of a Macdonalds. I wish I was kidding.

[@devonmunn5728]

When it comes to puritans parody and reality can get blurred

[@Silliest-guy-the-ever]

I publicly hold hands with my homies all time. Infact my intire friend group holds hands well we are walking. An entire chain, of homies holding hands. Moral of the story: hold hands with your homies.

[@Falcodrin]

Kiss the homies goodnight

[@Silliest-guy-the-ever]

@@Falcodrin yeah we do that to. Gradma kisses on the forehead

[@Periwinkleaccount]

HHH: homies holding hands.

[@eclipsemoonishere]

yeaaaaah!!!! hold your homies hands!! >:D

[@denangel2327]

Im being reminded of 4 of my classmates holding hands to go to the bathroom where they still held hands while pissing 😭😭😭

[@johnnypetronel]

"It's so hard to use the name that represents them more instead of the name I gave them at birth😭"

[@stacyfakename]

My mother would SO have been one of these parents. She had a problem with me calling my boyfriend my "partner" instead of boyfriend because it sounded like I was dating a woman I guess.

[@indigothecat]

These parents I feel would be the type that would freak out if their children came home after converting to different religion. I wonder if they would be more upset over Islam or Atheism?

[@jesusgarza7960]

Islam, u know y 😢

[@fionafiona1146]

Being atheist isn't really a religion but it's "trans religious" from the point of those awful parents

[@annataymond9529]

Even just the “wrong kind” of Christian

[@gayternatee]

i think they would be equal level upset over both

[@shigushigu741]

The knowledge there there's even infighting with different versions of Christianity is insane to me

[@briannaobrien4419]

"Power tools" had me dying 😂. One of my friends is a transman and he was over one day and he's sitting on the couch hemming a pair of his pants. I (ciswoman) am putting up shelves and fixing a vacuum. He just bursts out laughing gesturing between us and i start laughing and we both agreed The Straights would NOT approve.

[@ShintogaDeathAngel]

I'm straight and I would approve XD the whole gendering tasks stuff, and subsequently shaming people for not following sexist expectations is just... sooo tedious and exhausting. Especially when you look at certain things in a historical context. Some activities considered "feminine" and thus, 'lesser' these days were, in some places/times in history, only allowed to be performed by men - including things like knitting and ballet dancing. Bigots' ignorance would be hilarious if it wasn't sad.

[@briannaobrien4419]

@@ShintogaDeathAngel 🤣 I'm so glad this gave you a giggle. It was a great bonding experience for us and we got to have some awesome constructive conversations about hobbies triggering dysmorphia because of how 'gendered' they are in society.

[@TeaMollie11]

Noooo you cant do that!!!!!!🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡!!!!!!! my holy book said you cant😡

[@briannaobrien4419]

@@TeaMollie11 🤣🤣💀 love this

[@queenbe420]

Facebook is now a mix of boomer memes, bigotry, and for some reason, adult content 😭

[@Sojo214]

I use it for theater purposes, and if I don’t sign on for a week I get FLOODED with recommendations of women in bikinis, hate, etc etc, I was so confused.

[@hawkeyescoffee6399]

I was away from fb for about 18 moths because I locked myselfnout of my account.i missed when things shifted and my poor mum (in her 70s) kept complaining about these people posting on her page (she's been on fb 10 years and still can't grasp that people post on their own pages and you see it if you are their friends). It turned out to be a bunch of things like gossip posts, stuff like "Royals UK", "William & Kate", mixed with competitions for motor homes and stuff. I told her she must have liked their pages or followed them. It was only when I got back in my account that I discovered while I had been off it, it had turned into quite the hellscape of (adlutish) adverts, paid content, and scams. And when I do see posts from people I'm friends with, it's like every 3rd post or something. And those friends posts don't even show in any kind of chronological order...I'll get a post from a week ago then one from 3 hours ago, then one from 3 days ago, then a month ago...same person, all out of order on my feed and interspersed with dodgy ads & gossipy crap like you would see in a tabloid. If it wasn't my only connection with old uni friends and distant relatives then I'd probably ditch it completely.

[@wmdkitty]

And Star Trek memes. And cats. Both worth hanging around for.

[@DrPonner]

It's crazy how the boomers and disinformation spreaders took over facebook

[@crylemite]

Don't forget about MLMs (not the gay kind)

[@mothmanwantssoup1010]

I was outed on my 15th birthday. My parents put up a wall to my new name and pronouns. Eventually they started trying to care because I was close to riding the sewer slide. Now I’m fine and they don’t care anymore. Any opportunity, my mother gets to gender something that is for me, she does. Every birthday “Wonderful Daughter” and my deadname on everything. I’ve just given up because I know she will always think that I will find my way back to being cis. It’s just cringe when my teachers, doctors, and friends call me by my real name and now my mother is uncomfortable because she’s the only one not. Your fault.

[@goinggoinggone535]

Stop calling her "mom" and start calling her by her first name or Mrs. (whatever her last name is) to understand just a bit of the disrespect she's giving, even better if she's divorced, call her Mrs. and then the last name of her ex-husband.

[@justalittleturtle5600]

Hah, she deserves to feel uncomfortable. She’s acting like a child determined to be the winner XD

[@jesusgarza7960]

You deserve better

[@afreyjar_1989]

I was raised and was part of a Christian cult until my early 30s where they considered being queer a choice and were to be treated as 3rd class citizens to be converted or destroyed. This was in Canada btw. It took the church closing down and me actually taking the time to listen to queer people and their experiences and a great deal of introspection to get me to accept the fact that I'm bisexual and a trans woman. I'm way happier now than I ever was pretending to be a cishet man. I was born bi and trans, and wouldn't change it for the world. Trying to cover it up and fit in gave me health issues physical, emotional, and mental that I'm still dealing with and probably still will for years to come.

[@MillieBlackRose]

Glad you got away. Can't imagine what horrible thing happened to close down the church. Cults are hard to get rid of and hide behind their "religion." I'm happy for you. 💜🖤💜🖤

[@TwilightDance113]

The mother who couldn’t decide what name to put on their child’s christmas present reminds me of my own father. He refuses to call me by my chosen name, but has been told not to call me my given name by myself and other family members, so he has now landed on calling me nothing. It’s utterly ridiculous if you ask me 🙄

[@user-vf1wy9pu6t]

I literally detest it when ppl call being gay a lifestyle like what the fuck

[@ShintogaDeathAngel]

It's one way to try and discredit gay people. As if being straight isn't also a lifestyle.

[@fiascophobiaimp9579]

I'm sick of parents not realizing their kids aren't pets. They're just mini humans that grow into themselves no matter what you do to make them into the oc you made in your head.

[@RandomMackem3247]

Well they basically are pets, u take care of them, feed them, protect them, until they reach adult hood

[@MD-vs9ff]

You shouldn't even treat pets that way.

[@jesusgarza7960]

@@RandomMackem3247 not really pets stop developing and remain ur pets humans are raised to be humans as adults.

[@aismakessounds]

I have a story with a happier ending than these, if you need it: Growing up, I attended a church that just... didn't talk about same-sex attraction. In support of or against, there weren't any sermons on it. There was a liiiittle bit of the purity thing I think in Youth group, but that's about it. Still, a lot of people who attended were more conservative, especially in the older bunch. By the time I was in high school, my family had been attending the same church for years and my sister and I were generally known as "good girls" in the church amongst the older crowd. My sister sang solos and they loved her voice, and I was often confused for her and did volunteering. Even the older people who could tell us apart were very friendly and liked the fact that we, as teens, would actually talk with them. One person who always spoke to me was an older man who had a grandson my age that went to my school. The grandson and his parents attended a different church. This man adored his grandson and was excited that I went to the same school, so I'd listen as he talked to me about his grandson's achievements (which I already knew from the morning announcements) and I'd give him the rundown of any big school events and how they worked as well as bits of "youth culture" so he could understand where his grandson was coming from a little better. Now, the grandson was very popular in my school and I was pretty shy, so we never talked, but I knew who he was. The grandson was also out a little at school, but I didn't know if he was out to his family. I never said anything of course, as I had friends who were out to me but not out to their family as well and understood at least that much. Like I said, I didn't know the grandson personally, but I did get an idea of when he came out to his family because suddenly a lot of my conversations with his grandfather would turn to what actually made a sin and how was it really our place to judge? I'll always remember the look of relief on his face when I broached the subject of how same-sex attraction isn't really addressed in the Bible, and how easily people can misinterpret things and maybe it's okay if we don't know for certain. He didn’t bring up his grandson's sexuality in so many words until a later conversation, but it was like he just needed a sounding board for how to process it. This man grew up with the assumption that being gay was wrong and sinful, but when he learned about his grandson, his thought wasn't to have his grandson change. I don't believe for a second that his love for his grandson ever wavered. Although he struggled with processing it all to some degree, his absolute love for who his grandson was caused him to call over 50 years of faith into question. Not only did his faith come out stronger with the testing, but about a year later he was telling me with just as much excitement and pride as before about his grandson's new relationship with his boyfriend. I'm not sure if the grandson ever knew exactly how much his grandfather loved him, but I will always remember those small conversations. I can only imagine that the grandson may have felt hurt if he knew how his grandfather struggled, but I hope that everything turned out alright for both of them. I suspect it did. What I do know for certain is that the grandson is thriving, and has what looks like a happy relationship with his partner and a strong bond with his mother. This, of course, is just what I've seen on Facebook, but it always brings a smile to my face. I am definitely of the belief that God makes all sorts of people for a reason, and I'm not about to claim I know His Will. Christianity is not a religion based on certainties; all I know is that I am meant to love others. Who they love and how doesn't change that.

[@kikidevine694]

The grandfather really did love his grandson ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@justalittleturtle5600]

That’s so sweet. I’m so glad that boy and his family turned out okay. It can be so stressful to come out, even in a nonChristian family. I can’t imagine how scared he was :(, I’m happy his family loved him so much! I also grew up in a Christian home and church environment, and I don’t know how the people around me felt. But my youth pastor tried very hard during one sermon to remove any hate and negative biases about homosexuality (since this was during the time when people were getting upset about churches donating to pride charities). He said that if having a same sex relationship was a sin, then we can’t forget that lying was a sin as well. And if we don’t hold people hostage for lying, hating on them, and telling them they’ll burn in hell for it, then why should we do that for homosexuality? He ended the sermon with telling us that God’s greatest commandment was to love. And we can’t love others while judging and hating them (he also snuck in a few verses on how God deliberately says we have no place to judge others XD). I remember being so excited to tell my friend, who is gay, about that sermon. It seemed like a step in the right direction, and I wanted her to know the world was changing, and she might not be so rejected in the future. I don’t believe in judging others and hating people simply for sinning. I will hold people accountable for hurting others, but if you’re not hurting anyone (regardless of whether or not the Bible says it’s a sin), then it’s not my place to judge. It’s between them and God, and I don’t need to butt my nose into it. Now I just wish more people would actually read the Bible, and not just skim it looking to confirm their biases. If you’re going to base your whole moral code off a book, then don’t cherry pick.

[@osiria2898]

my infant ass got called the Admiral. names aren't real okay everyone calm down and do what makes them happy

[@junkerburn2341]

omg thats awesome, my infancy nickname was "pademelon", which is a type of marsupial!

[@-alovelygaycat-]

Damn y’all got cool nicknames. Mine was just Noodle because I was always wiggling around and couldn’t be still. Admiral and Pademelon are so cool.

[@LillithPlaysSims]

Lol I call my nephew Captain (Carson) Morgan. Baby army ftw

[@dogearflopper7011]

Listening to these people have the audacity to speak for God is wild lol

[@godofchaos9571]

I would love for God to come down and be like "guys, please, STOP SPEAKING FOR ME. I LIKE QUEER PEOPLE, OKAY?!"

[@thegrandxbunny2073]

@@godofchaos9571 As a Christian, I second this.

[@internalizedhappyness9774]

@@godofchaos9571 if that was true, I’d love it too and if so, I’d ask them if my dog was in heaven.

[@allenwilson3329]

Right? Like Zeus is bisexual and he has an intersex cousin. And Neith is a trans woman and she created the entire universe. Loki is bisexual and genderfluid. The gods are queer and trans as fuck and they support lgbt+ humans too❤️

[@johnnypetronel]

Love how one just straight-up admitted they don't want their child to be happy, since happiness is fleeting, and all those other materialistic/secular parametres are ones she made the f*ck up. Also, my mother too is a repressed lesbian😆 Still didn't stop her from threating s**cide and repeatedly insulting and berating me throughout my teenage years :p

[@anamelchior7194]

My mom is ace and though she was never openly homophobic (not fervently at least), she still said stuff (especially abt trans people) that assured me that I couldn't trust her. Matter of fact, when I came out she said "she didn't care" then proceed to say she didn't believe I was bi and pretend I never came out and still make commentaries about the community as if I'm not part of it - she still wonders why I don't open up to her lol. Also yes, it's so ridiculous that the guy basically said "I don't want my kid to be happy, I want them to serve the lord and work!", like lmao bro what are you on about? Happiness is the most important aspect of existence. I do relate to his feeling of despair but in the opposite way - the past 2 years I had several breakdowns over the sheer amount of transphobia in my country, especially in social media. It's heartbreaking to see people embrace hate - even people I deem close, thank heavens I'm not trans -, and to know that queer folks still have a long way to go in order to have access to basic decency. :(

[@johnnypetronel]

@@anamelchior7194 So sorry to hear about your mother's behavior. I've been grey-rocking in this area for quite some time now, but if I let myself linger on it, there always is a lingering, under-lying pain that things with them are not as good as they could be, and that they care too much about their bigotry rather than valuing their relationship with us. It's always there, like a parasite, sucking out any and all positivity I could get from interacting with them. Luckily, I haven't lived with them since 2021😅 Anyway, it does break my heart too to see so many bigots feeling free to speak their mind, and the fact that the mainstream and social media is content enough to allow them to do so. But hey, at least we still got each other, be it in positive spaces like this, our with our irl/online loved ones. Hope it gets better for you 😊

[@anamelchior7194]

@@johnnypetronel couldn't explain better, it does feel like a parasite, or a virus that slowly contaminates the relationship until you can no longer feel comfortable talking to them. I do hope things get better, but it's better not to expect anything not to get disappointed and look for support somewhere else - just like you said, there are still positive people around to make us feel safe and accepted. Tell ya, if it weren't for my online friends I'd be in a much darker place rn lol. Thank you for the kind words!

[@johnnypetronel]

@@anamelchior7194 Thank you too!😊 It's always nice having a conversation like this once in a while in the middle of the current climate :D

[@salemcrow5078]

Honestly I don't think it's necessarily that they don't want their kid to be happy, but that they have a very warped view of happiness is supposed to be. It's a very specific teaching I've heard in churches more than a couple times, but essentially the idea is that "happiness" isn't really real. *"HAPPiness is based on what's HAPPening."* The short of it is basically that you can only be truly happy - or, joy as they call it - is through God (and following Christian rules.) Another teaching that's typically paired with this one is that because of human (sin) nature following God's rules often doesn't feel good and we often refuse to. Essentially what they've been taught is that it doesn't actually matter how you feel about it, "true happiness" is just following God's law. And if you are "happy" outside it, it's because you're doing something wrong - and eventually something will go wrong and you will fall apart. So basically, yeah, they don't want their kid to happy, but I at least personally think it has less to do with character of the parent themselves and more what they've been taught. It's insidious.

[@sassylittleprophet]

Someone needs to show these parents the movie "Prayers For Bobby." It's about a Christian family who learns their son is gay, and has to come to terms with it. Trigger warning: s**cide Bobby offs himself, and his very homophobic mom (maybe the most homophobic member of their family) goes on a whole journey of soul searching as she tries to understand where her faith fits into everything... And it's a true story, this *actually* happened to a family in I think the 70's, and Bobby's mom is the biggest ally now. The mom is played by Sigourney Weaver btw. It's such a good movie, I bawl every time.

[@GachaAracne]

Is it on Netflix or Amazon?

[@sassylittleprophet]

@@GachaAracne Amazon

[@ouijacorn]

Well, for the first woman, I feel comfortable assuring her that her child will indeed be transformed. (Also, this group pisses me off in part because my mom is part of a fb parents' group for parents of children with a serious disease. Her group is full of parents asking each other about how to afford and administer their babies' medication and talking about organ transplants for their newborns, and these folks are over here like: *You guys...it's just so hard to have a gay child* 😢Unreal.)

[@paein9642]

I just imagine she's meets god in the afterlife and he's like, "I did transform her, who do you think invented hormones?"

[@edwardzignot2681]

Triger warning, self harm. My best friend growing up ended up making an extremely permanent and heartbreaking decision after his parents responded to his coming out with extreme negativity, including telling him stuff like "You're not allowed to be gay." This event, to this day, has had an extremely profound effect on me and is what got me to take LGBTQ matters seriously. I don't think these parents know just how harmful their lack of acceptance can truly be. No kid should ever be treated that way by their parents, and no parent should ever have to go through what my friends parents did. It's all extremely tragic and completely avoidable. Last time I saw the parents they had become LGBTQ rights activists. It wasn't in time to save their son, but hopefully they can convince some other parents not to go the same route and help avoid this happening to people in the future. I completely agree that you don't need to "understand." All you need to understand is that if you love your child, you'll be supportive, and accepting of who they are. If you don't you risk estrangement at best and what happened to my friend at worst. This isn't something you can punish or manipulate out of them like a goth phase or something. it's who they are on a basic fundamental level.

[@anamelchior7194]

Shame on them for only realizing the gravity of their actions after it was too late, but at the very least they learned their lesson - which can't be said about the majority sadly. I've seen way too many parents misgendering their own kids on their graves, or blaming the queer community for the kid's mental health instead of their own behavior. I'm so sorry for your friend, hope you're doing alright.

[@rainbowfranklin]

​@@anamelchior7194I literally told my mom that if she misgenders me or uses my dead name for my grave I will haunt her. (I'm not suicidal BTW. Just have health issues that might take me early so I have affairs in order.)

[@theotherauthor740]

even if it was far too late, i’m glad your friend’s parents used their grief to understand why they were wrong and to become better people moving forward. i’ve seen some parents who are so violently queerphobic that they would prefer having a dead child over a living queer child. absolute nightmare.

[@FlareFox9002]

Why is life against us? I fell in love with this trans woman who struggles with gender dysphoria and their body image, among other things. And I realized life is a cruel, funny, rigged game. One day you tell your normie friends how much you love someone, next day, the person you love has themselves at knifepoint, telling you to choose your next words carefully. It isn't just people with bigotry, it feels like life itself is a massive bigot.

[@De_Selby]

I have a gay friend whose parents are homophobic. They still love him to bits seemingly, but they have a hard time accepting his gayness i suppose. It's quite frustrating. I hope we can grow to understand matters of sexuality better and outgrow forced, baseless beliefs.

[@anamelchior7194]

It doesn't really matter how much we come to learn/discover about gender, sex and sexuality, bigots will still ignore facts that don't fit their ideals as they already do with stuff we know

[@selkrasouza6262]

One of the most frustrating things are parents who give you unconditional love but not unconditional acceptance.

[@Moszan]

​@@selkrasouza6262With a handful of parents, even their love is conditional.

[@De_Selby]

@@Moszan yes. My own actually. When I told them about my gay friend, thinking I may be setting thr grounds for coming out (I am indeed, bisexual), they spared no time to tell me they would abandon me if that were the case and assuming I may be in love with my friend, my mom told me I'd have to choose between them and him. If that were the case (it's not lol) I would choose him. Like how're you gonna say you love me while the thing you love is only an idealized image you have of me instead of what I really am.

[@witchytaedragon]

@@anamelchior7194 Well not always. I've seen bigoted people change before. It happens less than I'd like but it does happen sometimes

[@indigofeilds9520]

i feel like most of facebook is either the daily wire but soft or absolute gibberish

[@catrakitten]

Almost every social media app has rubbish.

[@cameronwhaley2214]

My fb feed is literally just emo shit, queer shit, and furry shit

[@SarastistheSerpent]

It’s barely even soft. It’s straight up far-rite daily wire rhetoric at this point

[@repulser93]

I mostly use it for selling shit.

[@Rebzyyxnumber1fan]

Even the plushies had enough of the bigotry

[@professorfoxtrot]

The plushies are no substitute for children. Kiwi will regret her life choices.

[@cjgroves4429]

​@@professorfoxtrotnot everyone feels the need to breed and pump out kids they don't actually want and won't actually care for. You're not a moral person,just because you've got kids..nor does it mean you deserve that right.

[@Moszan]

​​@@professorfoxtrot Better to regret not having children than regret being a parent.

[@professorfoxtrot]

@@Moszan It's very awful. Kiwi regrets not having children, and she will not have the joy of spending time with her young.

[@JosilyneTwigg]

​@@professorfoxtrot Not everyone wants children (coming from someone who would like children eventually) Telling others they want children won't make them want children any more than they did If anything, they'll want them less, or won't want them just to spite you You aren't helping your own points

[@SarastistheSerpent]

Some of these posts make me feel so sad for the queer kids suffering in unsupportive households

[@DaveCM]

About 15 years ago or so, a woman who went to church with my mother attempted suicide because her son came out as gay. My mother told me about how hard a time the woman is having. My mother then told me that if one of her children were gay, she wouldn't know what to do and she understood the woman's distress. I was flabbergasted!! I just asked her, "So, if I was gay, you wouldn't love me? You would rather kill yourself than accept that I am gay?" She had absolutely no response for that. I was worried as we adopted a boy who is gay. I made the determination that if my mother had any problems, that would be it.

[@plutophantomhive3231]

Are you accepting more queer kids?

[@bellarosethorne]

10:20 "We are doing exactly what the doctors say will make things worse, and things are getting worse for him! This doesn't make sense!"

[@sparrow_601]

My bf doesn’t really understand what being nonbinary means and doesn’t “get it” but he is still very supportive of me and doesn’t tell me “it doesn’t exist” or something of the sort. I wish everyone, despite not understanding, would just be accepting

[@robin-hr7tc]

I will not

[@GachaAracne]

i'm glad your boyfriend is supportive!

[@a-rat-in-your-walls]

​@@robin-hr7tc Cry about it.

[@robin-hr7tc]

@@a-rat-in-your-walls womp womp

[@robin-hr7tc]

@@a-rat-in-your-walls only 2 genders male and female

[@franciebelcher4594]

I've never, ever, not once met a "christian", or "religious" person that has a positive, open mind regarding sex, LGBTQ+, single women, or child free people. Not. Once. That's all I need to know about church or "god".🙄🙄🙄

[@sarahbunny0618]

Hi! Bisexual and non-binary (genderqueer) Christian here- Usually the bigoted Christians are the most vocal, but trust me, there are some non bigoted Christians out there:)

[@robin-hr7tc]

​@sarahc878W transphobia

[@sarahbunny0618]

@@robin-hr7tcwhat ?

[@mindovermatterbecomingyour1561]

I've actually been by a church while riding the bus whose sign is painted rainbow & says "we accept everyone" so churches/religious people accepting of LGBT people DO exist

[@tisvana18]

I did when I was a Christian (as I was a bi Christian who never really took to the random hate people just tried to shove down my throat with no provocation). And I knew a few others who did and are still Christian. I’m not anymore. At least, regardless of my beliefs on Jesus and God, I’ll never associate myself with Christianity the institution again.

[@sinxxu]

Ive had to cut my mom off when i was 14 and its pretty difficult living alone but living under a household where i get constantly belittled by the person who i thought would always love me is way harder and more hurtful

[@sassylittleprophet]

So this reminds me of the time I came out to my very Christian, very homophobic and transphobic family as a lesbian (I was already an adult living in my own apartment, so I wasn't afraid of getting kicked out of the house). My family's reaction was basically an implicit "okay, we're just never gonna talk about this and judge you behind your back," (except my dad who drove 2 hours to my place, hugged me, and said it didn't matter to him, but it felt like it was too little too late because of how physically *abusive* he was to me and my siblings and how much he and my mom literally tortured us according to the Biderman's Chart of Coercion, but anyway). Because of my family's reaction to my coming out, I never even *bothered* to tell them when I figured out I'm non-binary, like 2 weeks later. I ended up cutting contact with my family a year later anyway because I just couldn't deal. But my cousin's response to me was so priceless that I want to share it. She wrote a collection of 5 mini letters to me sent as one letter. I'm only going to be summarizing/listing the highlights here. She starts the first letter by mentioning that she'd been thinking about the last time she heard from me in November, which was when I came out to everyone...and that kind-of sets the tone for the entire letter. After mentioning November, she starts off the letter by saying that she misses when we were children, and she "loves children" because of their "amazing childlike faith, love, dependence, and honesty." (End of first mini letter) Second mini letter. She talks about how she's wanted to write to me for awhile, but life (which fair enough). She says she's been worried about me but "takes it all to the Lord in prayer" and there's "no need to feel bad that I've felt bad, just know that I love you so, and genuine concern comes along with truly loving you, my sweet cousin" (which is also a fine enough sentiment when devoid of context). (Okay, so I'm on my phone and can't underline words, so everything she's underlined, I'm going to be writing in all caps, so you get the emphasis.) "THE LORD HAS BEEN PUTTING YOU ON MY HEART TO SHARE WITH YOU HOW I'LL ALWAYS LOVE MY COUSIN [DEAD NAME], TO SHARE SOME BIBLE VERSES WITH YOU. "AND LAST, BUT MOST IMPORTANT, I FEEL IS TO IMPLORE YOU ON CHRIST'S BEHALF TO PURSUE YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD FIRST AND FOREMOST, BY READING/ABIDING IN HIS WORD. He will clarify His design of life for you. He is a LOVING (Jeremiah 9:24), JUST, and RIGHTEOUS God. HE LOVES YOU, [DEAD NAME]. Here are three verses the Lord just put on my heart right now for you. "Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, 'IF YOU ABIDE IN MY WORD, YOU ARE MY DISCIPLES INDEED. AND YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE." John 8:31 "And THIS IS ETERNAL LIFE, THAT THEY MAY KNOW YOU, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." John 17:3 "(I know Jesus said this with love in His ❤️) "REPENT, FOR THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS AT HAND." Matthew 4:17 "If you're okay with it, I have 1 question for you. I'd love to hear from you, but I don't expect you to feel like you need to answer me if you don't feel comfortable. "So just relax and ask yourself, and think about it, if you'd like to. ☺️ "Family members like me keep telling you that WE LOVE YOU. WE TRULY DO, even if we didn't say it enough. I know THAT YOU KNOW DEEP INSIDE THAT WE LOVE YOU, NO MATTER WHAT. DON'T YOU KNOW THAT WE LOVE YOU? THAT I STILL LOVE YOU AND ALWAYS WILL?" (End of second letter) The third letter has very little psychotic underlining, but almost the entire thing is her reminding me of what the gospel/Christianity is, as if I've forgotten or need to be reminded (which, I was raised in a Christian fundamentalist cult since I was 6 years old, I know what the gospel is). A lot of "God loves you, God sent Jesus to willingly be sacrificed for us, because God is loving and merciful and good and has a pure heart and peaceable, gentle," etc. etc. etc. Quoting a verse about "if you love God, you'll keep His Word, and God will love you" Then... "You know something about your little cousin [name]? I struggle with confrontation, a lot!!" (No shit) "But I WANT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, AND SINCERE, AND MOST IMPORTANT, I WANT YOU TO KNOW I LOVE YOU NO MATTER WHAT. "Sometimes, because I struggle with confrontation, I just put the issue aside and focus on kindness and loving that person. But this time, I think it's important to talk more openly about it. "A Bible verse is coming to my mind. "Open rebuke is BETTER THAN LOVE CAREFULLY CONCEALED. FAITHFUL ARE THE WOUNDS OF A FRIEND (or cousin❤️), but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful." Proverbs 27:5-6 "LOVE DOESN'T MAKE WRONG A RIGHT." "A quote that means a lot to me because of what I learned, that Jesus taught me." (End of third letter.) The fourth letter is very short. "Thinking of you, [dead name]. I love you, dear cousin. I missed you. We missed you, it wasn't the same without you. I'm praying for you" -- (when do you ever do anything else?) -- "It's hard. I understand that you didn't come to Opa's homegoing funeral. I'm just sad and a little heartbroken. "It will probably be a very long time till we're with Opa again, and it will probably be a very long time till I get to visit with you again. Tears are hard to keep in right now." (End of fourth letter.) Also, brief context for that letter. I didn't go to my Opa's funeral because I had been to the hospital 1½ months previously, after self-ouchies and severe thoughts of unaliving myself. I knew I didn't have the mental fortitude at that time to face an entire family of homophobes and transphobes who would deadname and misgender me after having already come out to mostly silence. I knew I would most likely come home and do the game over for real this time, so yeah, I did something good for me for once, *sue me.* The fifth and final letter is very normal. She talks about her mom having an autoimmune disease, and the water in the state they moved to is making her mom really itchy and break out in hives and she gets random fevers for no apparent reason. She writes about wanting to finally finish and send the damn letter, and she finishes with, "Well, I do know that God's timing is perfect, so I'll just rest in that. (in cursive) "Jesus Loves You! And so do I! "(written with pencil, love, and tears...) "Love always, your little cousin [name] "(His Word, the Bible, is not a religious book, it's His-tory and a love letter for you, and me, and everyone. ❤️)" (End of all the letters) And yeah, that's how my cousin reacted to me coming out.

[@anamelchior7194]

ngl it always irks me when people respond like that to coming out ("God and I love you no matter what") bc it's supposed to pass as supportive and loving but it's basically reaffirming that they don't approve of your ""lifestyle"" (hate that term) and see you as a sinner - hell, I had a friend say that "all sin is equal to God", which implies that being gay is as horrible as being a r***st for example. It's basically trying to guilt trip you and I'm thankful my mom just pretends I never came out instead of that. Sorry you had to deal with such an unsupportive family, hope you're in a better place now.

[@sassylittleprophet]

@anamelchior7194 I am, I've been no contact with them all for a little over 2 years now. One of the best, if not *the* best, decisions I've ever made for my mental health

[@anamelchior7194]

@@sassylittleprophet I'm really glad for you, stay safe and keep your mental health in check always!

[@sassylittleprophet]

@@anamelchior7194 thanks 💜

[@HenrySimmons1225]

You figured out you were non-binary? Lol how do you do that? You would know if you're intersex at birth. There's only male or female.

[@DinosaurNick]

For context purposes, I'll be using my own deadname as an example. My birthname is Beverly Kathryn ... my chosen name is Phoenix (middle name still pending... might or might not keep Kathryn) Names my family calls me Dad: Beverly-poo Sister: Kathryn Everyone: Bev Childhood nickname: Kitty Names my family will not call me: Phoenix, Nixi, Nick, Nyx Reasons for refusing: "It's not your name!" Yes, it is. "It's not on your birth certificate!" Neither is Beverly-poo, Bev. Also, Sis is not on Sandra's birth certificate yet everyone calls her it. "That isn't what your parents named you!" Name-changing is a thing that exists. It's not invented by LGBT

[@GachaAracne]

"tHaT iSnT wHaT yOuR pArEnTs NaMeD yOu!1!1!" so what? it's not like parents magically know wether or not a name will fit their child or if their child will even like their birth name. and what about last names? it's perfectly socially acceptable to change your last name, why isn't it the same for first names? make it make sense!

[@DinosaurNick]

Say it louder for the people in the back!@@GachaAracne

[@ShintogaDeathAngel]

I met several people in my time as a care assistant who didn't go by their birth names, but perhaps a nickname that they picked up at some point that stuck. Hell, even I don't go by the name on my own birth certificate, cos I was adopted!

[@DinosaurNick]

Exactly! And if people can use nicknames, go by their middle name, change their last name after marriage etc then why can't I be myself? @@ShintogaDeathAngel

[@fakename1799]

My brother used to be an ally, and has slowly over the course of about six months become more and more like these people. it really is a pity to see.

[@minachernobog]

Did he become religious? Or maybe more religious than before?

[@midnightsan9917]

Homophobia is learned. So someone or something in his life is teaching him to be this way.

[@fakename1799]

@@midnightsan9917 yeah my mom. I live in an insanely bigoted house

[@fakename1799]

@@minachernobog we were both raised religious, then both stopped for a while. I don't know what happened but he's a certified bible thumper now.

[@SarastistheSerpent]

That’s so sad to hear

[@lizd2943]

"If surrendering to my dad's emotional blackmail was good enough for me, it should be good enough for my child!"

[@RandomMackem3247]

Depends what age he was and what time period he was born in

[@vaxshin]

As a Southerner who has read the Bible (KJV, NLT, and Apologetics) the devil won when hate and judgement got into the church, especially capitalism. As a queer it pisses me off how egotistical parents can be.

[@internalizedhappyness9774]

Mad respect, I see it too. We assumed places of worship could not be encroached by the VESTIGES of capital. The places of worship will only be free. Once we are all free, no chains can be left bound!

[@katdedoelder5465]

My little brother came out as trans like 3 years ago. It coincided with the tail end of the pandemic and me moving out to college so it really stressed out my parents. They’ve never been transphobic or homophobic - they taught us the respect everyone. But when my brother came out their world turned 180. It was a rough few months as they reevaluated my brothers life, they were wondering if they missed signs, if they forced him to act like a girl by accident. Part of them did hope it was just a phase of gender exploration. It was a LOT of inner turmoil for them - especially my dad. But at the end of the day they always told my brother they loved him. That they did not think any less of him. I can’t say what my parents were feeling or thinking but they made sure my brother knew he was loved. Fast forward today - and my brother has legally changed his name and is almost 1 year on T! There are still days where my parents miss the little girl they raised, but then they see the young man they’ve had the privilege to see bloom and they’re happy as can be The process of understanding and accepting your trans/gay child is not always easy. It can be really hard and can change the dynamic of the relationship. But what’s most important is that you love them unconditionally.

[@chris135x]

Not on the right side, kid......

[@ShintogaDeathAngel]

@@chris135x talking about yourself, again I see.

[@chris135x]

@@ShintogaDeathAngel No. I'm talking about you "people".

[@UsedToLikePKMN2416]

​@@chris135x Wow. So edgy, we are litterally shaking in our boots, pants have been shidded and pissed, currently on the floor crying, cant believe the whole LGBT community was destroyed by someone acting like an ass on the internet. Now if you will excuse us, we will go and have a life full of joy and happiness without you.

[@chris135x]

@@UsedToLikePKMN2416 Wow typical. You're offended by the word people but in quotes. That's about the only thing I said that you paid attention to. You liberals are not "happy".

[@pemanilnoob]

These parents love the idea of a child. They hate their children. You cannot love someone if you can’t accept that they’re different then what you wanted. It’s just really sad.

[@lilafliesrockets]

"I pray that this year my child will be transformed by God" God: hold my hormones

[@putaromason5234]

The fact they're making it about themselves. This behavior is very disgusting and there is no excuse for this behavior. This isn't human. I wonder if their kids told them that they don't accept their lifestyle would they be okay with that? These are legit monsters and should be seen as that.

[@Turtle.fan101]

MY DAD USED TO BE ONE OF THESE KINDS OF PEOPLE BUT AFTER HE AND MY MOM SPLIT UP WE HAD A FAMILY CONVO OVER DINNER LIKE LAST MONTH AND I ENDED UP CRYING ABT HOW SCARY IT WAS TO BE A TRANS TEEN AND NOT HAVE YOUR PARENTS ACCEPT YOU AND MY DAD HAS BEEN CALLING ME MY NAME AND HE/HIM AND I HAVE CRIED OVER IT SO MANY TIMES OMFG!!!

[@PinoccThePiccolo]

Oh my goodness??? Congrats!!!🥳

[@Charl0tta]

I always find it interesting how some Christians refuse to use other than birth names, “because it’s against Bible” but at the same time Bible has multiple people who have changed their name and those same Christians are perfectly okay referring to those people from Bible with the new names (example: Saint Paul, formerly known as Saul of Tarsus)

[@xXendless_shrimp_tourXx]

I’ve always hated my name, when I was a kid I would tell my mom and she would cry about it and my dad would get mad at me for being mean or rude It’s not their fault that I don’t like my name how would they know? I don’t blame them I just want to go by smth else

[@GachaAracne]

You can always just choose a new name anyway, your parents will have to learn to deal with it. I'm sorry they are having that kind of reaction, though

[@stormthrush37]

Sounds like they made your desire to change your name all about them, I'm sorry! That's how it is in my family too, it's always all about them.

[@koryray9681]

These parents are horrible. I'm a lesbian and I grew up with parents like this, and my mom told me that she would rather have me die right then and there and go to heaven, than live a long, fulfilling life with a woman and go to hell. This mindset is seriously effed up.

[@mickithompson5888]

My adoptive stepdad is one of these, we’ve had zero contact since 2001, and his current group of “friends” don’t even know I exist. Such a relief! I’m sorry you’ve had to also deal with this shit, know that our chosen “family” is out there to keep us lifted up. Love and peace to you! 🏳️‍🌈🙌👊

[@koryray9681]

@@mickithompson5888 I'm sorry you went through that too! And thank you, you too!

[@vamplinvamp]

The name thing is so weird. I’m trans and I go by my preferred name at my university. It’s a pretty conservative university yet my professors and all my classmates call me by my preferred name. Why? Because I’m not out to them so they assume it’s a nickname. If they knew I had a preferred band because I was trans, would they ignore 3+ years of calling me by that name to purposefully deadname me despite it actively being more difficult? I dunno. I’m just hoping to get through uni without getting outed along with the rest of my secret little club of queers I’m friends with

[@Your.Casual.Buddy_AS]

I'm a cis and bi young adult. My parents were and are never scared of buying me things and clothes that are considered for males' only by the society because all they know is I have a taste for all things which are labelled for men, women and non binary people because I change my aesthetic almost everyday 😂 on top of everything I belong to a country where LGBTQ+ marriage is illegal but I'm very grateful that I have scientifically thinking, unconditionally loving parents ❤

[@Shoot4AlarmFire]

They say happiness is fleeting or just a feeling or whatever, but then they wonder why their child is suic*dal and blame it on their 'lifestyle'. Like, why are they missing the connection??

[@robin-hr7tc]

W homophobia

[@robin-hr7tc]

W transphobia

[@Scatscar1985]

The Pink Panther isn't seen as being "for girls"

[@ellenpendegrass]

"if this was the right lifestyle..." ma'am Jesus cried blood before he was crucified because he was so upset about the idea of dying. He was miserable for days leading up to his death. Guess he wasn't living the right lifestyle because he was struggling too. Istg these people are so hypocritical. They say that Christians are supposed to suffer for their beliefs because Jesus suffered too, then they use someone else's suffering as "evidence" that they're wrong.

[@skalessibbons7349]

That book they love does not say hate people with same sex relationships.

[@chris135x]

What book? And you "people" are the ones who hate.

[@CharaDreemurr_TheyThem]

Yeah, like Levidicus (idk how to spell it) 18:22 is a mistranslation that's supposed to basically say "yo bro stop f*cking kids" and the whole Sodom and Gomorrah thing is because cheating, necrophilia, zoophilia, pedophilia, and more was going on

[@Munira_crunch]

You literally put the term you “people” in quotes, as though they are not humans or human on the same level as you, while trying to say they’re hateful as your main point. The fingers are pointing back to yourself as you project, Chris. @@chris135x

[@Hypnos132]

@@chris135x wrong

[@jojobizarrelivingstone594]

Yeah it says to stone them 😃. I don't understand lgbtq+ people who still defend the bible or do they only look at the stuff jesus says

[@phoenixc7245]

Off tooic, but I kept laughing when the stuffed animal kept falling off the couch

[@AxelRhea1812]

They had enough of these people 😂

[@PansyPops]

I definitely won’t (and y’all shouldn’t) but I’m sorely tempted to create a burner FB account and get into these communities. Not to be a nuisance or troll, just spread a bit of positivity and see how others react if I give people good advice to live with their LGBTQ+ children. I’m just wondering what would happen if the members were told to accept and love their trans/gay/etc kids - whether if a ban would be issued or if members throw hate and/or bible verses in response. Once again nobody should do this, but I’m kinda tempted.

[@thecrazygooseofyourdreams4785]

In case you do, i wanna know what happens

[@jesusgarza7960]

So if ic it's not to hate which I would approve as well ur also just helpinf

[@PansyPops]

⁠@@thecrazygooseofyourdreams4785I can’t because I don’t use Facebook, plus I feel like I’d lose more hope in humanity if I spent 10 minutes looking at parents disapproving of their queer children.

[@fionafiona1146]

Chances are people get banned fast

[@thecrazygooseofyourdreams4785]

@@PansyPops i get that, feel the same tbh

[@clampity]

I’m so lucky to have supportive parents (they’re trying their best even if they make mistakes sometimes) but my heart goes out to all the kids with these sucky parents. and you are literally the best for being a spy lol

[@De_Selby]

Thanks buddy 😂❤

[@joghnythegurue2710]

The fact you had to "infiltrate" them by posing as someone with the exact same worldview speaks volumes. They really do just want to cultivate an echo chamber of unhelpful advice and self loathing that one could argue unwittingly harms themselves more directly than it harms their child (though still harms the kid nonetheless).

[@RandomMackem3247]

I’m surprise she could infiltrate them without trying to fill it with her own echo chamber

[@plaguedoctor5657]

You are totally right, the Trans Cult is an echo chamber that was snowballed during social media psy ops

[@jesusgarza7960]

@@RandomMackem3247 you mean her ideas also u know echo chamber aren't a insult loser right

[@jesusgarza7960]

@@RandomMackem3247 those bigots cultivated e echo chamber when asking for help when the fact is if u want help u want to be open minded

[@ArAsDeCos]

My dad kept going on about how they/them is only plural and I got so sick of it. Ended up discovering the xe/xim/xyrs pronouns set and now I'm using 'em. AND he is okay with it?? Colour me surprised lol

[@gem3763]

That’s bizzare lmao

[@artikulv731]

I don’t even know if that’s transphobia it sounds like he just needs to go back to school for a bit lmao

[@ArAsDeCos]

@@artikulv731 Refusing to use someone's pronouns is transphobia, bucko.

[@ArAsDeCos]

@@gem3763 I know right?

[@GachaAracne]

That's really similar to my mom lol, she struggles so much with they/them pronouns but xe/xyr is just fine. She does at least know that they/them can be singular

[@akisatsuki8444]

I have heard that LGBT kids tend to grow up faster than others because of crap like this. Parents claim to want their kid to have their childhood but it’s only applicable if they’re “normal” I guess.

[@jasminedavis3030]

Holy crap the parents at 10:21 are a piece of work. The psychiatrist is literally warning that he’ll likely unalive himself if they don’t make an effort to show they still love and accept him, but they’re literally ignoring PROFESSIONAL ADVICE in favor of crying to more bigoted strangers who will just tell them he “needs god/Jesus in his life”. That poor boy’s gonna resort to self-deletion if he does get away from these psychopaths.

[@springwood1331]

Sex ed 101 needs to be: 'if you have children, know that they are separate human beings, who have the right to grow up and be their own person, and may not agree with or live by your beliefs or values.' I mean, its obvious, yet too many parents seem to think their children are 'mini-me's or their property or something

[@roxyndra]

It's such a given in the cultural times when written, but so many of these 'Christians' don't realize that queer folks are in the Bible too.

[@yakrayakra5]

28:25 WOE IS ME, WHATEVER WILL I DO! My child is actually acting Christ like, my long lineage of hypocrites gone just like that.

[@Lord_No-brainer]

The Bible says love everyone so how do these Christians even exist

[@akisatsuki8444]

It’s tough love. They’re only tearing you down, manipulating you, and making you feel like garbage BECAUSE they love you, see? /s

[@kalaylaseehafer5195]

this group makes me furious. i 100% understand so many Christians are like this and it makes me so sick. I'm a Christian and I really couldn't care less what your sexuality is. I'm really proud of and happy for my friends who have felt comfortable enough to come out and are in healthy relationships. it is so simple to just love your kid. my uncle is my pastor and his sister came out as gay. her parents had a hard time with it, but still loved her no matter what. my uncle even attended her wedding. like it is not that hard!

[@ashton7784]

I came out as trans in 2020 in the mist of covid. I also started taking anti-depressants at the time. I told my parents I was s**cidal. They told me that meds are just a crutch. I am following trends online. How do you as a parent sit there and hear that from your child completely invalidate your child's experience and feelings? As a parent, I would be scared shitless to hear my child say something like that to me.

[@salemcrow5078]

"Meds are just a crutch." They....are aware what crutches are for, right? They are aware that walking on a broken leg is bad for you, right??

[@GachaAracne]

@@salemcrow5078Yeah meds are literally just to support you, they aren't a 100% cure

[@ShintogaDeathAngel]

This is the thing - if you have XYZ experiences in life, e.g. autism, that you can't explain the symptoms of, and come across people talking about experiences that do fit what you've experienced, and you can start putting names/labels on it, then it's likely you are going to start looking more into those things. They can look like "trends", but it's literally people raising awareness and talking about their own struggles in the hope they can help others and maybe find support for themselves, too.

[@Catshapedblobofdarkness]

I was raised catholic and sheltered from the internet and queerness. I didn't even learn that gay people existed until I was around 10 years old. I realized I was queer when I was 15 and started transitioning when I was 20. If I had the power, I would have started transitioning before 18. Catholicism and the abrahamic religions never were a big part of my life even though I was steeped in the culture from birth and I quickly tore away from religion as I grew older as I saw them for what they are. Tools to keep people ignorant and in line.

[@mickithompson5888]

What’s even sadder is that a percentage of those parents will “love” their kids into self-harm or unalive, and never once see their own responsibility or take accountability.

[@jackiehuff7736]

Since their christian, i bet a bunch of them got told their job was to get married and have children, so their children became their identity. Reading between the lines, so many of these poor kids sound like their a hop skip away from s**cide. I hope they make it out ok

[@d.a.i.s.i.e.s]

Imagine calling up your mom to be like “oh so I’ve been talking to this girl lately and she’s the cousin of your friend’s child, so I thought that was kinda fun and cool” just for your mom to freak out so hard about you talking to a person who just so happens to be the cousin of someone who is trans. Like bro, the levels of absurdity to go to facebook to complain about your child talking to a girl with a trans cousin, is utterly insane…… but nah, my mom is the same way and freaks out whenever I mention my trans friends too, regardless of the fact that I’m cis and I’m just friends with some lovely humans who happen to be trans.

[@N_IRL]

I'm not allowed to TALK to gay or trans people and I'm fucking 19 😭 Christians are wild istg

[@zacharyhale]

Im dying inside because you picked Austin, which is like the most liberal city in Texas. 😂

[@Spencerdoken]

PraegerU does that intentionally, they target their ads for queer and trans-positive channels. It's such a pain.

[@mypagangardens]

Coming out to my mother at 35 took multiple drawn out and traumatizing conversations…. coming out to just about everyone else in my life felt natural and was almost a side note in a conversation about something else….

[@LordyT34]

As a Christian, I find it awfully interesting that the same God whose said His most important doctrine was "Love one another, as I have loved you" apparently also really cares about 1950s, American, middle class, white values

[@theoneandonlyufomini-bot]

What does skin color have to do with it?

[@Baralai]

One of my oldest and best friends growing up is trans. We were a solid group of queer kids doing our best to be there for each other. But when he (let’s call him Z) decided to open up and come out as wanting to be perceived and addressed differently,(female to male, for context) he decided (iirc) that he wanted a party. Either him or his partner, another one of my best friends at the time, let’s call them J. But I remember talking with J, as we were connected at the hip for a few years, and they mentioned the party as a birthday, and kind of a funeral. It’s a moment of mourning, accepting, and embracing Z for who he is. It was beautiful. It wasn’t anything crazy, but just a personal celebration between our group of friends and fully accepting Z into our lives for who he wants to be, to be perceived as, to be addressed and talked to as. It’s a big deal and I’ve learned so much from him, The whole lot of them from that friend group really. But I always thought that party was really cool. It solidified Z’s existence for him, like the peace of mind that we all finally, absolutely knew who he is. It subconsciously set boundaries of respect towards him. Let us know how he wanted to be treated. I’m autistic, have cptsd, a few friends died when I was younger, one commit suicide, one in a car crash. So I feared change when it came to my friends. They were my rock. There was a small moment that I felt like I was losing my friend. I was sad and scared. The party also really helped my mental health, it helped my brain reprogram to see that Z is still there in my life, all our memories together were still there. And more importantly, we were immediately able to make new happy memories with Z fully embraced.

[@christinacornolo]

people shouldnt have children if theyre not going to support them through everything i s2g

[@morphingfaces]

Kidology just released a video with your face in the thumbnail with other leftist youtubers she's a pretty big sized reactionary youtuber who frequently justifies transphobia and misogyny and complains about how feminism goes too far just thought i would let you know because your picture was in the thumbnail on her latest video

[@strangerinastrangeland3613]

Kidology's community is super hateful and transphobic, she's a total disgrace!

[@ghostboi0]

I'm in my English class rn but when I seen this notification I knew what was more important

[@ceikaiyiacheeksthedirector2920]

I wonder if that woman will ever know that you stole her face lol

[@elhazthorn918]

Imagine someone seeing this comment without context.

[@reklessbravo2129]

My mind went straight to game of thrones 😂

[@ilikecookies9796]

@@reklessbravo2129 My first thought was Avatar: the last airbender.

[@elialexandra730]

It's crazy how they don't realize that they're the reason why their child is suffering it's not the devil it's not God punishing them it's you and people like you who make them feel like they don't deserve to exist so yeah when it feels like everyone around you hates you that's gonna take a toll on your mental health

[@sidthesquid750]

Hi Savannah. I know you won't see this, but I want to let you know how much you helped me. I'm currently incredibly suicidal and watching you feels like a hug. I cried through this whole video even though the topic of the video is a complete meme. I've been having such a hard time and I feel so alone, but I appreciate your presence and I'm so glad you posted today. You helped keep me alive for another day. sending much love from the US

[@KireiC]

Sorry you're having such a rough time - for what it's worth from a random internet stranger, keep fighting. Much love ❤

[@user-do2ev2hr7h]

I have a feeling a lot of these people won't have to worry about maintaining a strained or uncomfortable relationship with their children much longer.

[@EagleBot13]

It blows my mind that medical professionals can tell parents they are the direct cause of their child's destructive behavior and yet it's not considered child abuse.

[@KireiC]

I've heard the "if this lifestyle were right this wouldn't be the result" before; it came from someone who claimed that the gay lifestyle fundamentally included risky behaviors, drugs, etc. (from their own observations). No thought at all that the roots of some of those behaviors might come from the way they were/are treated as LGBTQ+ people in their families and communities (in the midwest, in religious communities no less). Not a drop of nuance.

[@ShintogaDeathAngel]

Yeah, as if straight cishet people never do drugs and participate in risky behaviour.

[@haleyarcher8977]

A couple weeks before our wedding, my husbands(a PK) mother started making a bunch of Facebook posts about us being murderers because we had an abortion three years prior. People who did not even know us was asking his sister why she was being so harsh. We asked her to stop and she told her son that she raised him better than that and he should not be with a queer atheist who pushed these things onto him. He let her know that he was 100% supportive of the decision and we made it together and she told him he was the biggest disappointment as a son and his existence and relationship with me shows that she failed as a parent. She was shocked when she was uninvited from the wedding. 😅

[@dylanwenz8112]

Thank you for not making this anti-Christian. It’s so hard for me as a queer Christian to find not only Christians who are ok with me being queer, but also queer people who are ok with being Christian. I know that many queer people have been hurt by Christians and this causes them to distrust God, and it doesn’t feel good to be around people who have said negative things about something that is very important to me. I went into this thinking you would be making it about them being Christian, but you made it about the root problem, them not loving their kids. So thank you for that. This is the first video I’ve watched from you, but you’ve already made me feel welcome.

[@zeejay7176]

Only a couple minutes in- Austin, Texas is a dead giveaway. Anyone else from Texas won't believe that you're a hardcore Christian unless you say that you moved away.

[@elliecassar1881]

18:46 "hey, * name * grab my hand! ill get you out of this hole!" "sorry, im not allowed to hold hands in public spaces!" "but im literally trying to save you??" seriously though that post is ridiculous

[@LumiOfFrost]

"Miku please, pull me up!" "But we're not marriiiied!!"

[@clonnie-cloo]

i'm still just super impressed at you going undercover as a wasp mom tbh

[@leszekandhisrandomstuff.9228]

The thing is, the same parents probably think Pascal's wager is still accurate. "If you believe in god and he doesn't exist, you lost nothing.", except a relationship with your children. You know that doesn't seem like nothing to me. Just say'n.

[@jaymevosburgh3660]

Hey! I'm a cis guy and I have been wearing makeup & skirts since I was 12. I do not consider makeup a "girl thing".

[@ShintogaDeathAngel]

And historically, it wasn't, at least not exclusively. High heels were also originally invented for men!

[@RandomMackem3247]

It’s called default gender and just don’t overdo it

[@jaymevosburgh3660]

@@RandomMackem3247 WtF are you talking about?

[@jaymevosburgh3660]

@@ShintogaDeathAngel Yeah, I know that. But I don't like high heels because they're so uncomfortable. I just really love makeup, specifically eyeliner, eye shadows and lipstick. Plus I wear skirts more than I wear pants while my partner wears pants and dresses. We get mistaken for lesbians fairly often, it's kinda funny. We even caused some jackass to wreck his car because he was too busy whistling at us while we were kissing one time. Idiots can't help themselves from being idiotic 😆

[@RandomMackem3247]

@@jaymevosburgh3660 default gender, the one your born as