Moto Morini X-Cape | Affordable, Attractive & Practical... But is it Good?

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@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto Жыл бұрын
EDIT: My bike was an early USA model... and details were still being sorted out. A few things that Moto Morini clarified for me post-production. Front suspension travel is 6.9 inches, not 6.3. Rear is 6.5, not 5.6. Weight is actually 514, not 520. Rear preload is adjustable without shock removal. They also pointed out that due to the closed cartridge forks, making some adjustments with compression clickers will make more difference that expected and can help with the bottoming. It's my fault for not taking more time during testing to adjust and re-test. Thanks. 🏍TODAY’S GEAR: ⚡ Klim Krios Pro Helmet: imp.i104546.net/WD9gOM ⚡ Klim Adventure GTX Glove: imp.i104546.net/Eax204 ⚡ REV'IT! OffTrack 2 Suit: imp.i104546.net/3eYVVr ⚡ Mosko Moto Wildcat 8L Backpack: bit.ly/3OiE5Ss ⚡ MSR Base Layers: bit.ly/3K3bQ8s 🏍BEHIND THE SCENES / DISCORD SERVER / CHAT WITH ME! ⚡ Patreon: www.patreon.com/bigrockmedia 🏍 SUPPORT BIG ROCK MOTO BY USING MY AFFILIATE LINKS! ⚡ Rocky Mountain ATV/MC: bit.ly/33kgRIz ⚡ Revzilla: imp.i104546.net/6bxxXN ⚡ Mosko Moto: moskomoto.com/bigrockmoto ⚡ Amazon: amzn.to/3viGZ0A ⚡ Merchandise: big-rock-moto.myspreadshop.com/
@houjous5131
@houjous5131 Жыл бұрын
If China was in a better spot economically & politically; yes I'd look at a kove. But China is flexing their military looking to start a war, a few of their politicians have been unalived and just about every loan China gave out to poor countries being defaulted on. I'm cautious buying any big ticket from built in China stuff. I have no idea what raw material they can get that is of quality we should expect. Before covid I would've said yes.
@ThatOneMinority
@ThatOneMinority Жыл бұрын
Chinese market evolved from only manufacturing into both developing/designing as well as manufacturing (which they now use Vietnamese labor). They have a professional economy now but Americans just stay bitter
@pa4tim
@pa4tim Жыл бұрын
If they are as good as some of the Chjinese scooter-mopets I would stay far away from them. Plastic is bad fitting, absolute not service friendly, electronics is very bad in quality. Almost everything is plastic (even things you do not want to be plastic) A friend has 2 of them (Because they constant refuse to run) and I helped him a few times because electronics is my field of expertise, and those are also bad. But at least motor cycles in the USA are probably good test before they are allowed to be sold so they will be safe and Chinese can build good things if there is quality control done by a non-Chinese company and they produce for export, production for internal use is often even worse (and sold via things like Ali-expres, and many A-branded parts are just fake, they even fake their own Z- grade stuff ;-) )
@pa4tim
@pa4tim Жыл бұрын
@@kayoedowner6711 Chinese electronics is even worse as most consumers think, number of fakes are huge and they go very far. I have see a batch of IGBTs where they cut of the legs of used ones, point-weld new ones, polish them, sand of the type marking and replace it by a more expensive one, and we talk about parts that cost less as a dollar. (I have seen many more ) At this moment I guess most of the parts sold via Ali expres or direct from other Chinees sources , are fakes. Many of the gadgets is just dangerous and will last very short. Specs are made up and often at least half of what they publish. (I am an EE and I do rather specialised electronics board repair)
@ryaandnice
@ryaandnice Жыл бұрын
No. There is no perfect nation. But giving money to Chinese business is giving money to the CCP, which is one of the worst governments on the face of the planet. Other options exist.
@KiwiMoto72
@KiwiMoto72 Жыл бұрын
I have loved Morini Motos for a long time. I visited their Museum in Pesaro Italy a few years ago. A wonderful history. As for made in China. Who cares? All the components of most Motos are made all over the world these days. Looks like a great bike!
@Ritalie
@Ritalie Жыл бұрын
5,500 RPM at 80 mph. This is the MOST important part of a motorcycle review: the gear ratios and engine vibration. The gear ratios are NEVER talked about in 99.99% of motorcycle reviews, as if riders forget that your fuel mileage, vibration, engine noise, and fatigue level on the highway, are all determined by having properly tall final drive gear ratios. MOST motorcycles have the wrong gear ratios, are all of the ADV bikes are geared way too low. It's a relief to see that the Moto Morini X-Cape 650cc might have the best gear ratios of any of the bikes.
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
@rightwingsafetysquad9872 11 ай бұрын
5,500 rpm is still a bit too high. I’d like to see 3,500 - 4,000.
@RRRRefuelRideRace
@RRRRefuelRideRace 4 ай бұрын
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 5500 at 80 mph is a wonderful result for this bike and engine. You can check other bikes in the category and then you will see... can check my content too. Cheers.
@dantheman4life
@dantheman4life Жыл бұрын
Great review, Ian. My wife and I almost fell off the couch laughing at you and Maggie! Seriously, great work, and thanks for providing quality content.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@tonymillichap7943
@tonymillichap7943 Жыл бұрын
I have this bike and so far it’s been amazing a little under powered but great quality for the money and dose everything I need
@JoseAlvarez-dl3hm
@JoseAlvarez-dl3hm Ай бұрын
I have been looking at this bike seriously for my second bike, updraging from a Honda cb250cc. It looks nice and your review put a big smile on my face, I am considering this one along with the QJ Motor SVT650X, which it is also chinese but it seems to be quite good too, both seem to be great competitive motorcycles.
@bogdan1207
@bogdan1207 Жыл бұрын
"Just like me" - ok, that deserves a like! edit: you always know when it's an italian design, because they look good! Same goes with Benelli, for example. Don't really know about reliability / service life though...
@cocchiam
@cocchiam Жыл бұрын
👉Would you buy an iPhone despite it's made in China? As already written, the bike is developed in Italy and built in China, like Nike, Converse, and even Ray Ban sunglasses
@chrispekel5709
@chrispekel5709 Жыл бұрын
The frame and engine are cfmoto copy of the er6 / ninja 650. So it's really a Chinese clone of a Japanese bike more than it is Italian - IMO of course
@abcdefg-dw5jj
@abcdefg-dw5jj Ай бұрын
@@chrispekel5709只有发动机是
@wernerdenexter7750
@wernerdenexter7750 Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen loads of reviews on this bike, it kind of grows on me. This review is one of the best, thnx!
@Karbonara05
@Karbonara05 Жыл бұрын
It's really cool that your reviews include the pillions opinion since its also one of the important factors that many buyers consider ! Thank you Ian and hoping you continue with this very nice reviews!!
@nathanthepostman
@nathanthepostman Жыл бұрын
Hi Ian. Great review. I've had an X-Cape here in the UK for just under two years and about 9000 miles. I swapped a Guzzi V85TT for it. I prefer the Morini of the two. Just more enjoyable to ride. I find it a more engaging road bike. Both equally limited off road. I've not had any major problems with it. The quality seems good and no signs of wear and tear. I've had a few engine management lights flicker on but have cleared themselves. It once cut out in Ireland and restarted in heavy rain. Haven't needed to order parts for it bar the oil filter, which seems to be a unique fitment for the Morini, which seems a bit odd given the engine's origins. All in all I like it. But we've just got the Benelli TRK702X which has 10bhp more and is officially £500 less. Tough market in the mid capacity sector.
@nickzourb190
@nickzourb190 Жыл бұрын
I bought a V85TT after considering and testing various motorcycles, including the X-cape. The only reason I can think of why you sold the Guzzi for the Morini is that you really needed the cash....
@nathanthepostman
@nathanthepostman Жыл бұрын
​@@nickzourb190It was a direct swap for a two year old guzzi for a brand new morini. So no, I didn't need the cash.
@nickzourb190
@nickzourb190 Жыл бұрын
@@nathanthepostman The Morini isn't bad, it's stable , has good wind protection, good brakes, suspension, it's beautifully designed etc. But it's a second grade bike, plastics feel cheap, metals look of mediocre quality, engine was emitting more heat in the winter than the Guzzi in the summer etc. And the quality of the handmade Guzzi is second to none. What did you see in the Morini that made it a better choice than the V85TT for you?
@nathanthepostman
@nathanthepostman Жыл бұрын
​@@nickzourb190 the guzzi feels a more premium bike than the morini, no doubt about it. I had troubles with a drive shaft leak in the early days and I lost the master key which was going to be over £1k to replace. So I didn't gel with the ownership experience and I just didn't gel with it as a bike to ride. Lots of character but for the weight it lacked some performance and I couldn't help but feel for the money a second hand gs1200 would have done everything better, held its value better been cheaper to service (from experience of owning a gs1200 it was). I liked the guzzi but never loved it. The morini I admire as it's much better than I anticipated and I find I have more fun on it. Objectively I think they're both sub par bikes but subjectivity I prefer riding the Morini.
@nickzourb190
@nickzourb190 Жыл бұрын
@@nathanthepostman Well it is better build with better quality materials, better fit and finish etc. Also, the shaft issue was common on first bikes. Warranty fixed. Either overfill with oil or a faulty seal. About the master key, didn't you have the code ? Looks like the dealership was the issue, not the bike. And maintenance is actually the cheapest you can get for a premium 850cc bike. About the R1200GS, maybe you compare Guzzi dealership service vs indie mechanic work on the BMW? But yes, really enjoyed riding the Morini as well.... You should have given the Guzzi another chance with another dealership though. Just my opinion.
@ridingwithrusso7790
@ridingwithrusso7790 Жыл бұрын
Another great video! A local dealership had a demo day last week, the bike looks great in person. Took for a 15 minute ride around town so not very thorough but my thoughts; felt easy to ride, comfortable riding position, great digital dash, brakes felt strong, seems like an incredible value. Transmission wasn’t as positive feeling, I ride a Versys 1000. Overall seems like a great option. I hope they do well.
@calebogilvie6678
@calebogilvie6678 Жыл бұрын
Your wife just made my day🤣
@JIMWSMITH
@JIMWSMITH Жыл бұрын
Iam on a Facebook page in the uk , and there has been no issues with these bikes , one rider Nathan millward has put over 7000 miles on his travelling around the uk Cornwall to Scotland, and uk to spain. He rides his bikes hard , and its giving him zero issues. Everyone on that page thats riding one is a happy customer. These bikes along with cf moto , voge , are proving they can make a competitively priced well built bike , the question is will it last 30k +
@IndependentVictor
@IndependentVictor Жыл бұрын
definitely the most thorough reviews on KZbin
@DickLewis-w4m
@DickLewis-w4m Жыл бұрын
Moved to France in 2019 from Canada. Brought my Ducati 1200 Multi Enduro with me. Long story short. Will cost half the price of the Ducati to have it licensed here and then to add insult to injury: French admin does not recognize Canadian motorcycle license !!! So… as no one was going to stop me riding I passed my test here…. Yes all of it!! Now I’m a young rider again 😛🤪😂 So I have to drive a 47.5hp bike for 2 years 🤪 My local Ducati dealer hear in SW France also sells (amongst other makes) Moto Morini…. So here I am riding a Moto Morini X-Cape for now almost a year. Engine light came on in first week on the bike… broke down completely 200m from the dealership. Got a loaner bike and the whole electronic system was changed. Not good. However… now the have 16000km on the bike. Mostly traveling 2up ( my wife loves traveling on the back but not so keen to drive her own). We’ve driven up and through the Pyrenees and the Alps loaded with camping gear etc. Can’t fault it since the first problems had. Touch wood it’s now perfect. It’s not my Ducati of course… but I have a lot of fun in the French countryside twisties. Almost hate to say this. But it’s growing on me. I will see what I get into in a year when I’ve finished my probation period…. maybe the new 1200 Morini?? 😁 Love your content… always excellent info.
@RRRRefuelRideRace
@RRRRefuelRideRace 4 ай бұрын
The bike has a great design. Apart form being too heavy and having a bit budget suspension it is a great value for the money. I didn't read a lot of negatives about it. :) Great video Ian, just like always. In depth and that is something that is really appreciated. :) Cheers.
@SoDakTwisties
@SoDakTwisties Жыл бұрын
I feel like that would be considered a good 80% paved/20% light off-road bike, given it's suspension specs. I looked up all the specs online and I see a 19" front and both spoke wheels are tubeless! I think that's about perfect. I feel like I'd still go Japanese at the end of the day, for most of the reasons you've listed: Unknown long-term reliability and dealership network. As always, great review with tons of attention to detail! I always appreciate your comprehensive content!
@jmreynoso6990
@jmreynoso6990 Жыл бұрын
i just purchased this bike about a month ago, it is my every day bike as my Multistrada V4 S is an expensive every day ride, i feel that i got a great deal and i feel its a good bang for your buck, still early but for around $7k i got the bike with all 3 cases so i decided to give it a try, before i had a V-Strom 650 and a KLR 650 and this bike feels better than both, on road it is smooth and comfortable, sure it has things i dont like but again ill take it over the KLR and the Baby V Strom.
@cirneco1581
@cirneco1581 6 ай бұрын
Know a guy who owns an x-cape, as well as other biles that fall under ADV. He uses this for easier offroad as well as commuting and general use. Rides this bike the most almost daily. I do know he has put over 12,000 miles in its first year, not one issue. Its not designeed for heavy offroad, it does make a great bike for easy off road, twisties and commuting on road, powerful enough to handle most riding environments and it has a reliable motor and looks great, and not expensive. It is what it is.
@TonyHands-r6l
@TonyHands-r6l 11 ай бұрын
Hi there I have one and love it iv down sized from 1200 1400 due to age and weight of bike just done Ireland 2k miles next Morocco Egypt via Italy hope this helps
@zrkn1
@zrkn1 Жыл бұрын
Excellent real world review, as usual, thank you.
@bigj2345
@bigj2345 Жыл бұрын
That KLR stock photo made me snort laugh. Great work.
@chadmckenzie2095
@chadmckenzie2095 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review. It's a great looking bike and a great start into the adv market.
@marcelomendes5444
@marcelomendes5444 Жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis!! Congratulations!! (From Brazil)
@Cult1022
@Cult1022 Жыл бұрын
"I'm designed in Germany, and made in the USA" wifey: "okay..." she has put up with you for a while, hasn't she :D
@SKgeostrat
@SKgeostrat Жыл бұрын
Really good review IAN! You are improving every month! Your organisation and structure keeps improving and you cover more issues. Well done. Personally, I would not buy that bike. If I wanted to go offroad just a little, I'd buy a V-Strom 650 XT. If I wanted mostly a road bike, a Versys would win every time, in spite of the price. For more off road, a 800 DE or a Transalp wins every time! This is for a guy on a budget, who is not too far from a dealer and trusts the warranty. It might turn out really good or not, but he is close to a dealer.
@MauriceTarantulas
@MauriceTarantulas Жыл бұрын
Went with a Himalayan as first learner bike, this was a close second. My reason was parts easier to get for Himalayan plus 2k less...(found out adv gear needed + camping stuff comes to about the price diff😉)
@chrispekel5709
@chrispekel5709 Жыл бұрын
If you're not doing highway miles the Himalayan is the better choice imo.
@MauriceTarantulas
@MauriceTarantulas Жыл бұрын
@@chrispekel5709 So far had no probs on motorways...70 ish.. P.s no speed demon sure😉
@malone-np3ip
@malone-np3ip 4 ай бұрын
Your the only reviewer mentioned the weight difference which is a big deal of course in wind on highway that's a positive nice looking bike
@BERZERKERSV4
@BERZERKERSV4 Жыл бұрын
If MM had greater dealer network, this bike or the Ibex 800 would be in my garage in a heartbeat… between the MG V85TT and the X Scape, they are by far the best looking “ADV” bikes by far….great review… BTW , I purchases a V85TT in late July 2023 and just completed a 6000 mile , 6 week cross country trek from Daytona to Cedar City Utah, mainly 2 lane roads, some highway droning and a fair making of fire road trial riding…. The V85TT was flawless… zero mechanical issues .. thank you MotoPlex Daytona.. As a side note, excellent new “dimension” to your reviews by showing access to critical bike components…you should also consider, when comparing competitors, a dealer OTD price….that reality check is why these bikes will be making serious inroads in the US market…
@trevorkarrett3041
@trevorkarrett3041 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'd like to see Ian do a full V85TT review. It makes more power than this, weighs less, and has more suspension travel. I got my V85TT Travel for just over 11k USD OTD and for that price I can't think of anything that comes close to competing. I've only had it for a bit but will be doing my first longer ride on it this weekend, I'm sure it'll perform great.
@BERZERKERSV4
@BERZERKERSV4 Жыл бұрын
@@trevorkarrett3041 Excellent choice… as mentioned my go to long distance travel bike for the last 10 years was a 2013 GSA Oil Head…. but when I test rode a 2023 K1600B and GSA 1250… there was no way on God’s green earth that I could justify spending spending $30k on a 10 year old platform that has been mildly “refreshed” over the years… as for those who do… they are damn fools because the Latest greatest BMW models have progressed to the point of only being bragging points at the local pub and that’s it….As for the V85TT… I could not be happier adding it to my fleet ..
@podunkman2709
@podunkman2709 Жыл бұрын
​@@trevorkarrett3041VT85TT is more "classic" than u expect 😊
@trevorkarrett3041
@trevorkarrett3041 Жыл бұрын
@@podunkman2709 Not sure why you think that? It feels like a bike that has every bit of modern convenience and a great modern chassis, with a classic powerplant/drive system, that still makes modern power with modern efficiency. There's no shaft jacking, the engine/shaft should be super reliable, and the electronics package is good too. I put nearly 500 miles on it this weekend and it was great. Wind protection is the only thing I'd like to improve but every ADV bike has the same problem, and if not then it's probably a touring bike.
@jacobwilliams1285
@jacobwilliams1285 10 ай бұрын
Agree with you that this X-Cape and the V85TT are some of the best looking bikes in this class ( I would add the Tracer 700/7) and considering both. The V85 secondhand costs about a 1000 EUR more still than a brand new X-Cape. I lean towards the secondhand MG though.
@mattevans5812
@mattevans5812 Жыл бұрын
I watch bits and pieces of the adventure bike reviews but I watch the whole reviews of bikes 300cc and smaller. I love Ian's review on the KLX230. He was having laugh out loud fun off road. I'm done with adventure bikes over 400 pounds. The compromise on tires alone is too great. They are sketchy on wet roads while mediocre at best off road. I'd seriously rather tow a little dirt bike or dual sport with a touring bike. That's closer to the best of both worlds. But a smaller bike will get me anywhere on he backroads. The highways are boring anyways. To me, I ride for fun and if I wanted to try a made in China bike for off road adventures I'd get an XR150 for a few thousand and push its limits and have laugh out loud fun instead of a crap my my pants experience on something twice as heavy.
@KentwoodWarrior
@KentwoodWarrior Жыл бұрын
100%
@BERZERKERSV4
@BERZERKERSV4 Жыл бұрын
You need to expand your riding environment beyond the over 55 RV park…
@mattevans5812
@mattevans5812 Жыл бұрын
I live in mountains. Anyone who rides can get further into the wild on an XT250 than a 1250GS.
@tieoneon1614
@tieoneon1614 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I did. I lived where Ian does here, it was dual sport paradise with all the mnt and desert trails. Went from a Tiger 800xcx to a KLX250 < and the cheapest bike I ever bought new was 100% most fun I ever had out there. I had Border Patrol asking how the hell i got into where I did, LOL. Riding around town, back roads, trucking to offroad is best move I ever made
@notesonwheels
@notesonwheels Жыл бұрын
I test-rode it and the absolute dealbreaker was the silly excessive heat coming from the right side. It is by far, the hottest running bike I ever rode, especially when it comes to off road riding where the speeds and air is not enough to keep it low. It was a big fat no for me.
@jmsmikey
@jmsmikey Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting~ I live in Las Vegas & it's very hot for about 6 months out of the year. I just don't get why so many manufacturers release motorcycles with horrible heat management problems. I'm looking for a new bike to replace my aging VFR800, based on this criterion, it looks like two finalists are the new Transalp 800 & Yamaha Tracer 900GT~ different bikes, but both run cool. I'm just waiting to see if Yamaha will release a Tenere 900.
@G-Loco
@G-Loco Жыл бұрын
That's weird, been riding this bike for more than a year, never experienced that.
@rufcut2273
@rufcut2273 6 ай бұрын
Interesting! I rode one in Dallas, TX yesterday (97F) and had no issues with heat. Also, per the dealer, the check engine/starting issue has been rectified ( I asked).
@podunkman2709
@podunkman2709 Жыл бұрын
This is great looking bike. But quality and practicality is on a slightly different level than known brands.
@jameslee5428
@jameslee5428 Жыл бұрын
My wife who is also from China is still laughing. Really great informative video as always. PS I look forward to hopefully a long-term review of Moto Guzzi V85TT. As always keep the rubber side up, and enjoy life to the fullest.
@kgun10
@kgun10 9 ай бұрын
Great review and I love the intro ! 😂 ✌️
@yorkchris10
@yorkchris10 Жыл бұрын
Akront is a big name from my dirt bike days. Can-Am used them when production went to the UK in the mid-eighties. I believe Akront disappeared for a while, but now I see they have a variety of wheel types. No-one in my family looks like anyone else in the family. My brother and I did come from the same hospital.
@sspirito3130
@sspirito3130 Жыл бұрын
The X-Cape is actually designed and developed in Morini's factory in Italy, and in my opinion the styling looks good. Production is in China. A bit too heavy and underpowered for my liking, but glad to see some more affordable options in the ADV space
@lifeoutdoors3953
@lifeoutdoors3953 Жыл бұрын
He said that it was lol
@podunkman2709
@podunkman2709 Жыл бұрын
Sure, you bet! 😂 "In October 2018 Zhongneng Vehicle Group acquires the Italian motorcycle manufacturer Moto Morini for 10 million euros, pledging to maintain production and plants in Italy."
@mofm1639
@mofm1639 Жыл бұрын
Hey Ian you missed the trick of raising the windscreen. There's a place to put your thumb at the top of the slide, then it's really easy to do it one handed
@stefanhansen5882
@stefanhansen5882 Жыл бұрын
Another great review. Your calm presentations are refreshing. PS I hope you'll review the new BMW soon! :)
@MikesProjectsandHobbiesMC
@MikesProjectsandHobbiesMC Жыл бұрын
Looks like a better Versys 650. Seems like it was really hard not to blurt out “this bike sucks off road” during the off road segment. 😅
@auroratours6716
@auroratours6716 Жыл бұрын
Very informative! Thanks👍
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@bumstead1383
@bumstead1383 Жыл бұрын
Great review. I would be hesitant to commute everyday, beat on it since it isn’t a proven name. Hey price point sells bikes and for the money it isn’t a bad deal. Not something I would buy tho , but if times get worse for me then I won’t say never. I like the vstrom 800 right now….hell I just got a KLR-S model & it’s fine. Leaves me wanting more juice at times, gets a bit boring but I knew that.
@herrdirektor1969
@herrdirektor1969 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I noticed your navigation is selectable. Just curious, since it is not in Europe. Something to do with mirroring restrictions of apps on vehicle screens. How does this work for you? Enjoyed this review very much. I have this model since 2022 and so far so good.
@MotorcyclesandZen
@MotorcyclesandZen Жыл бұрын
Did you figure out why you have a check engine light?
@andrewpeter6128
@andrewpeter6128 Жыл бұрын
It’s fascinating; low ground clearance is commonly noted as a bikes limitation; yet I rarely/never see videos where a bike is so low slung that it becomes a limiting factor.
@TheMehlvin
@TheMehlvin Жыл бұрын
Ian put a hole in his oil pan on his KTM 890 adventure which is for sure a higher riding bike than this so I think it's just gonna happen no matter what, that's why a proper skid plate is a must on ANY bike
@andrewpeter6128
@andrewpeter6128 Жыл бұрын
Exactly my point
@chrispekel5709
@chrispekel5709 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheMehlvinI've never put a hole on any road bike ever. You mean on any bike that's going to be used off-road?
@Texmotodad
@Texmotodad Жыл бұрын
YES Check out their 1985 501XE Camel in white and red so can see where they got the current styling from. I had one with the Euro exhaust. Damn fun bike!
@geecee4746
@geecee4746 Жыл бұрын
They certainly got the looks right, shes a beauty. I don't mind that its made in China, the engine just wouldn't float my boat, otherwise i like it
@SWTrailsAndWheels
@SWTrailsAndWheels Жыл бұрын
What about the bike though?
@rtdude1
@rtdude1 Жыл бұрын
@@SWTrailsAndWheels😆
@thaicraft1219
@thaicraft1219 Жыл бұрын
Seriously considered this bike but I’m still leaning T7 because of off-road.
@Charlie-fc1mh
@Charlie-fc1mh Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a bargain for sure. However, you couldn't even give me that bike. Nice review as always ❤
@chrispekel5709
@chrispekel5709 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm sure you wouldn't take it if someone left it to you 😂
@Charlie-fc1mh
@Charlie-fc1mh Жыл бұрын
@@chrispekel5709 I turned down a 2021 Hyabussa a couple of years ago. Moto Bob couldn't even belive I said I wasn't interested. I have a 2024 mt10 sp on order
@lluis9377
@lluis9377 8 ай бұрын
Great review!!!!
@donnyjackson1908
@donnyjackson1908 6 ай бұрын
I like this. I have a 2024 CF Moto Built KTM 790 ADV and I would consider this Moto Marini as a second bike. It’s a lot of bike for the money. CF Moto is going to make some waves in the market in the next 10 years. They do a good job at making quality bikes for a good price even if they are based off of other manufacturers engine designs.
@BishBosh2010
@BishBosh2010 Жыл бұрын
Pretty honest bike and a great honest review. I'm thinking a bit too heavy, slow and desparately needs longer legs. Brilliant value though.
@chrispekel5709
@chrispekel5709 Жыл бұрын
Disagree on the power, you really don't need more. It's nice but not required unless you like breaking laws. But too heavy I agree, could lose 30 pounds
@cyclopathic998
@cyclopathic998 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion as the improvements go this bike needs: - exhaust reroute for more clearance - HyperPro rising rate rear shock spring - more relaxed head angle - longer travel suspension which if they increase clearance they can achieve without increasing seat height - some weight loss; those rearsets are cast(!)
@ttrguy9952
@ttrguy9952 Жыл бұрын
Ian Another excellent review! Interesting motorcycle for the price. Their mountain to climb is, as you said, establishing a dealer network. You can't sell a motorcycle without exposure. Mannequin approved video Sir! 👍👍
@rufcut2273
@rufcut2273 6 ай бұрын
Just viewed this again since I have been looking at alternatives to Honda/Suzuki/Yamaha.... Test rode one yesterday and while it was a nice ride, it felt very ho hum. I was able to keep up with the dealer on his Triumph 1200 but it was a chore.
@levigato125
@levigato125 Жыл бұрын
I thought US regs states the low beam must be on at all times while the motorcycle is on? Is this a manufacture demo?
@NEINLIVES999
@NEINLIVES999 2 ай бұрын
I own a 2023 X and it smokes my previous KLR! Off road my KLR rode horrible, just my 2-cents. Love my X!
@hectorarotxa7135
@hectorarotxa7135 6 ай бұрын
Ha estado genial , muchas gracias
@OVenomz
@OVenomz Жыл бұрын
Awesome review. Is it possible that you update your ADV guide Sheet ? Or am I unaware that it has already been updated ?
@lestersmyth692
@lestersmyth692 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great in depth review Ian much appreciated. If you get the opportunity check out the Voge 300 Rally it seems to be causing quite a stir. 👍
@cowarddonnie-ji5yz
@cowarddonnie-ji5yz Жыл бұрын
Without a doubt it's a beautiful bike
@marcusaurelius9736
@marcusaurelius9736 Жыл бұрын
Ian: "The check engine light came on." (Keeps riding.) On a reviewer loan bike. That tells me what I need to know. Reliability is way more important than price to me. Particularly with not a single dealer in my state. Warranty, even if honored, means nothing when it's 5 hours each way to a dealer.
@MickH60
@MickH60 3 ай бұрын
"That tells me what I need to know.", So virtually NOTHING is good enough for you, why did you even post ?
@kelcastle7645
@kelcastle7645 Жыл бұрын
That motorbike is beautiful! The problem is weight/power ration: over 200kg you need at least 100hp to move that weight properly.
@YA-kl7ny
@YA-kl7ny 4 ай бұрын
Hello Ian great channel congrats. When you would compare this Bike with CB 500x and V Strom 650 XT witch one your prefer for all in all Action as a Switzerland Knife. Have a good ride
@TheHomeExpert5
@TheHomeExpert5 Жыл бұрын
I've tried this engine out on a Versys and found no joy in it. Am I crazy?
@kevinh8338
@kevinh8338 Жыл бұрын
KTM needs to hire that design team . . .
@chrispekel5709
@chrispekel5709 Жыл бұрын
I think KTM has forged their market on love it or hate it styling. They'll keep doing what works
@_hold_the_line_
@_hold_the_line_ Жыл бұрын
True. KTM bikes look like insects invading from space.😮
@motoshark5847
@motoshark5847 Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@louispaulter8733
@louispaulter8733 Жыл бұрын
Off topic but I wish you could obtain the new Honda Adv160 scooter to put it thru your review format. This would great because as of 10/5/2023 there is not one full review by any well know / credible MC KZbin reviewer. In any case, always great reviews found at Big Rock Moto Ian, thanks.
@kkattrap
@kkattrap Жыл бұрын
Every motorcycle that is trying to be an "adventure do-everything bike" is a series of design and engineering compromises. For me, there were decisions made here that this bike should never be truly offroad. Any bike can handle a small stretch of dirt road or potholes if it's a competent rider. Crap dealer network can grow with time but nothing will change the placement of the airbox on this bike. Thanks Ian for the in-depth look around the bike.
@dominikgeisler2926
@dominikgeisler2926 Жыл бұрын
Nice review! Did you ever figure out the engine warning light and negative temperature report? It looks a bit worrying.
@mofm1639
@mofm1639 Жыл бұрын
The engine warning light might have been triggered from that big suspension hit? My wife dropped ours (luckily it has crash bars), and it brought up the light. Cycle the key and it went away.
@theja63
@theja63 9 ай бұрын
@@mofm1639 What do you mean 'cycle the key'?
@northidrecluse2306
@northidrecluse2306 Жыл бұрын
Great review as always, but I say no thanks. Great warranty, but where are the dealers, do they know the bike well enough to work on it? Parts suppliers? I can’t always avoid China, but when I can, I do. Not a fan.
@MikeK6046
@MikeK6046 Жыл бұрын
As for this Moto Morini (great machine/ great value), I would always have in the back in mind the thought that if does have a problem, how long would it take to fix/ get parts, same goes for KTM, Husqvarna, Moto Guzzi, MV Agusta to name a few, that's why I typically get BMW's (when something does go wrong, I've found it usually takes 3/4 days to get parts, YMMV)
@MOTOPILOT6
@MOTOPILOT6 Жыл бұрын
They have a full parts inventory in Irvine, CA
@bouleavard71
@bouleavard71 Жыл бұрын
Hello gentlemen and ladies, I changed the stickers from Moto Morini X-cape to Kawasaki Rally Touring 6.5 and with that simple act, the bike went from 7 thousand to 10 thousand Euros/dollars. Of course everyone was happy saying, this new Kawasaki RT is an excellent machine with design and finish. Things are like this and not otherwise. The Morini Xcape is a very good machine, very pretty and at an excellent quality/price. It has a large amount of details that other more expensive brands do not incorporate into their base models. This motorcycle has been sufficiently tested in its first year of commercial life, (Magazines, motorcycle testers, fans, dealers, youtubers) and the answer is that there are no known faults. A very large number of distributors throughout Europe. But if you really (really) need more than 60 HP, maybe this is not your bike. If you need a sportRR, this is not your bike. If you want a 100% enduro-rally, this is not your bike. All this is easy to understand, but then why do people insist on comparing with Africa Twin, Tiger 900, KTM 890 rally and others motorcycles more than twice the price of the X-cape??. The commercial results of the (Chinese /Italian) Moto Morinior Benelli brands are so good in Europe that it has forced brands such as Suzuki, Kawasaki, Yamaha and Honda to make deep price offers for a similar range of models. This is something like a little kick in the balls to the imperturbable Japanese brands 🤣🤣. Without a doubt, all this finally benefits biker customers 👏👏👍
@Fiatmannen1
@Fiatmannen1 Жыл бұрын
Ilive in europe sweden, hav not seen any price cuts from the japanese or the european brands. All these cheaper chinese biles is no where to be found,
@bouleavard71
@bouleavard71 Жыл бұрын
If we count only the countries of the EU, there are at least 27. But if we count all of Europe, there are many more. Dealer Local offers or price reductions on Japanese trail models of similar range, for example (Versys 650 with a gift of side cases, €8,400), or Suzuki Strom 650, €7,975, (these are prices that maybe not have in all countries, but in countries where sales of motorcycles such as Benelli, Moto Morini, QJ Motor, have been more successfull, such as Italy, France, Spain, Greece, others. In Italy, 1000 units of Benelli Trk 702 were sold in just 1 month. This was similar example to Moto Morini X-cape 650. I live in Spain, and indeed although I have both Benelli and Morini stores just a couple of kilometers from my house (I have tested both), on the contrary it is not easy to see these bikes parked in the middle of the street. At the moment it is normal, Moto Morini X-cape has only been on sale for 1 year. Likewise, I have not seen any new Honda Transalp 750 parked on the street and Honda store is 1.5 km from my house.
@jacobwilliams1285
@jacobwilliams1285 10 ай бұрын
Also live in Europe and see zero price cuts that you speak of. And certainly not because if a supposed fear of Chinese bikes. I wish you were right though! I wish they would some price cuts, would be very welcome because prices are high. Also... I dont see many of these Moto Morini's on the road, in the last year I have seen 2 Benelli's, 1 beautiful blue CF Moto MT650 and 1 guy has a Voge 500 adv bike. I'm sure MM is also sold but...clearly its all in very limited numbers despite what you suggest, for all the Chinese owned brands I mean, not just MM.
@pressley10r
@pressley10r Жыл бұрын
Great review as always, but the problems with this motorcycle are glaring and are going to stop most in their tracks- A 520lb 650cc made in China bike with almost no dealer network in the states. I think this bike is doomed from the get-go.
@ericsabatino6963
@ericsabatino6963 Жыл бұрын
Dealer network is steadily growing!
@markflaugh2293
@markflaugh2293 Жыл бұрын
Glad you bring Maggie out to sit on the bike as a passenger. It would be nice on bikes with shorter seat heights to see her sitting on the bikes and her height for reference. Otherwise another great review.
@BSC610
@BSC610 Жыл бұрын
Maggie cracking me up!
@jeffferguson899
@jeffferguson899 Жыл бұрын
39:00 "no driving allowed after wine or drugs" lol
@Angry-Lynx
@Angry-Lynx Жыл бұрын
Yeah so pretty clear that ur fine after beer ;🎉😂👍🏻
@martyndourneen7402
@martyndourneen7402 Жыл бұрын
It’s about time there’s someone building bikes at a more affordable price, I’m in Ireland were bikes are a ridiculous price, for gs adventure starting price is €21,000 standard before options Ducati multi is €25000 standard, so I welcome this affordable motorcycles coming to the market
@1vmxracer
@1vmxracer Жыл бұрын
What are you talking about??.....the Suzuki 800DE is very close in price in your country (Ireland) as it is in my country (USA) at 12,850 vs 11,500. Not that much of a difference and a far cry from the 21k for a GSA BMW.
@guyh282
@guyh282 Жыл бұрын
33:20 wait why didn't you adjust the suspension??
@kevjhnsn
@kevjhnsn Жыл бұрын
Maggie is hilarious!😂
@MrEtnorb
@MrEtnorb Жыл бұрын
An empty oil sight glass when on the sidestand is no big deal. Both of my KTMs have a similar feature but the oil level goes to the top of the sight glass when vertical. Looks a good location for filming Ian, maybe your new rural location?
@machupikachu1085
@machupikachu1085 Жыл бұрын
Great vid as always but Iono about this one, man. The Kove seems like a better machine from China for around the same money. And you said it yourself that the Honda weighs less, is better off road and is way less. Seems like Marine Moto may have a tough time with this particular offering. Cheers!
@MontanaDirtRoads
@MontanaDirtRoads Жыл бұрын
The china bikes are stepping up their game,between this and the kove im actually impressed
@CptSlow89
@CptSlow89 Жыл бұрын
I hope QJ will import their SVT model in USA so you can test it out.
@GPz84
@GPz84 Жыл бұрын
That bike looks phenomenal, and I'm not an ADV guy.
@wrightcycleworks
@wrightcycleworks Жыл бұрын
I'm curious If I can use the spoked wheels on my Versys 😂
@danketchpel7460
@danketchpel7460 8 ай бұрын
Late to the game, but did you ever find out what caused the check engine light to come on? For me it would be more compelling if it was substantially lighter given it's displacement. It's only 20 lbs lighter than my 1250GS. It will be interesting to see how the dealership network plays out and what the market thinks of it a year or two later.
@CptSlow89
@CptSlow89 Жыл бұрын
Are you going to test some chinese brands like QJ,Zontes and Benelli?
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 Жыл бұрын
Is it almost the same weight as the new R1300GS ?
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto Жыл бұрын
yes
@AA-wd2or
@AA-wd2or Жыл бұрын
You need to test Kove 450
@skiphalbakken6499
@skiphalbakken6499 Жыл бұрын
Great video. What is it with Italian design and putting the air filter under the tank?
@chrispekel5709
@chrispekel5709 Жыл бұрын
It's a cfmoto engine design and all of that is a copy of the er6 engine, so this is a Japanese idea here haha
@PovilasPanavas
@PovilasPanavas Жыл бұрын
at 8:10 what's with the paint of the front wheel? Seems like a lot of it is missing
@PovilasPanavas
@PovilasPanavas Жыл бұрын
never mind, at 10:44 I can see it's simply dirt
@chiliboom6140
@chiliboom6140 9 ай бұрын
I have a 2016 Africa Twin. From profile it looks pretty similar.
@lestersmyth692
@lestersmyth692 Жыл бұрын
Fine by me they are now making some relatively competitive bike’s which are well priced. Regards the Chinese stigma people have short memories regarding Germany, Austria, Italy and Japan whose products we now buy without question.
@Ian-bq7gp
@Ian-bq7gp Жыл бұрын
I've had 2 Yamaha XT500. In South Australia I rode it off road a fair bit. It was heavy but I really loved it. Simple, reliable. How does this compare?
@1vmxracer
@1vmxracer Жыл бұрын
Great bikes along with the twin shock XL500S....and not really all that heavy. They would, in today's world be considered lightweight (under 350lbs) by ADV bike standards. I would LOVE to sport an XL500S for short 2-3 day adv/moto camping trips, but the only issue is I can't kick start one any long due to age and injury, but they are both excellent choices for an ADV bike.
@yahoodlums
@yahoodlums Жыл бұрын
Great looking bike!
@philallen301
@philallen301 Жыл бұрын
So you need a 10mm, to get to the tool kit. 🤔
@lucke1022
@lucke1022 Жыл бұрын
No, you can access the tool kit from under the passenger seat.
@brandonoliver5665
@brandonoliver5665 Жыл бұрын
Hey great video, love the content! Can you or anyone in the comments provide any opinions for Taureg 660 vs Vstorm 800DE?
@alveyhighway
@alveyhighway 9 ай бұрын
This is a sweet looking bike. They should put some more suspension and 21/18 wheels and call it just the adventure
@snupermoto723
@snupermoto723 Жыл бұрын
How long before your speeding ticket arrives in the mail?
@ivok9846
@ivok9846 Жыл бұрын
17:00 why does chain look like piece of rust?
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