Alpinestars Tech Air Off Road Airbag | It's Time to Adopt Airbags (in-depth review)

[@BigRockMoto]

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[@americandude3825]

Just another reason why your my favorite motorcyclist on yt

[@BitCoin-jl4ns]

See my reply below. More work is needed to improve all brands/models.

[@byever1]

My helite airbag saved me from any life changing injuries from my accident last year.

[@mikenoeth955]

Just had an accident with 70 mph on. Interstate. Sliding down the road. I also wore a riding suit too.I believe the airbag saved me from many min injuries. Never ride without one. I walked away.

[@BigRockMoto]

wow, amazing! glad you are ok

[@spacecruisers]

Which airbag were you wearing?

[@wendygerrish4964]

Its the sudden stop they say.

[@fives6910]

So glad that you're alright

[@tieredlabsllc5728]

Been riding and racing for 30 years. The older I get, the less shit I wear. So yeah, f this noise.

[@MeanRachel]

Klim Ai-1 saved my ass in rough crash last year. 2 titanium rods in right arm, 3 in right leg, chunk out of helmet and left knee reconstructed with cadaver parts on the sixth and final surgery - I don't even count the broken left hand after what I went through with the left knee - LOL. Back of airbag vest was mangled and even thought I had broken limbs my back, neck and spine and torso writ large were not even bruised or sore. Total game changer, y'all. Came off the bike at 50MPH in six lanes of traffic.

[@BigRockMoto]

Wow. Glad you're ok

[@PisgahGravelProject]

I respect the heck out of your honesty and transparency. It's at the very beginning, no dancing around it, no trickery, no "*" in the bottom corner with tiny print. Other channels should take note.....some have turned into glorified salesman. Their approach screams "disingenuous" to me. So much so that i have i no linger subscribe to their channels, and no longer watch any of their content. In a world filled with scams, biased reviews, and beginners giving advice and act as if they've been into the hobby for decades, it sure is nice to have a few channels which are authentic and honest. Many might disagree with my opinion, that is fine, doesnt mean im wrong though.

[@Mr1drumlover]

What you said! ✅

[@ridefreeordie]

Picked one up for my upcoming 40,000 mile ride. Concerned it might be stifling in hot conditions. I have a traditional armor set up waiting for me in San Diego incase the Tech Air doesn't work out. Thanks for your motorcycle journalism - it's a positive contribution to the riding community.

[@RandomGRK]

I tried riding in it around the block and it was 70f. I immediately started sweating on my chest area since there is virtually zero airflow. I then tried my Alpinestars A10 and I was momentarily cold because of the great airflow and the fact that I was damp on the chest area. That sealed the deal for me. It’s an incredible piece of equipment but it’s too warm for summer riding. Also, it doesn’t have any side rib protection and that’s the area I usually bust up.

[@gregggorman6197]

I’ve been wearing a Helite Turtle tethered for a decade. Probably have around 100K miles on it. The cable/steel ball connector finally broke. I bought another Helite, Hi-Viz, and will repair the original and have a spare or one to donate to a new rider. Helite is relatively lightweight. I wear it over my Aerostitch one piece. You get used to tethering. Adjusted properly you can stand while tethered riding off-road. Don’t have to worry about charging while on multi day camping trips. Simple, proven technology. On one occasion I did perform an unplanned, sudden, airborne dismount (yeah, I crashed) while bouncing down my dirt road. I’m in the air, heard a pop. Next thing I know I’m on my back in a cloud of dust watching my rear wheel spin. It felt like I was jumping backwards into bed. The next day the only part of me that was tender was my rear end. 5 minutes to replace the gas cylinder and you’re ready for more action. Like Ian, I won’t ride without an airbag. Everyone’s situation is different. But definitely check them out. Remember, cracked ribs only hurt when you breathe. See y’all in Redmond and GetOn Fest Sturgis. Ride safe.

[@BigRockMoto]

Great info

[@dralexmclean]

I have worn an airbag corded vest style by HitAir for over 10 years now. ABSOLUTELY I agree they offer a massive improvement in safety. My bag has deployed once (other than a test deployment when looking at buying one). I was dismounting from my bike by standing on the left side drivers peg and had my right leg way up in the air to clear my tailbag. I was a putz and had NOT put the stand down properly or left the bike in gear(DUMB). The bike rolled off the stand an I fell very hard on my left side on our concrete paver driveway. The bag went off, everything worked and I got up without scratch or a wrenched neck or sore shoulder. I was SO impressed, I'm in my 70's and I would at the very least badly wrenched my neck and likely broke my left collar bone. I wear the bloody thing ANYTIME I'm on the bike under power - Yes, even moving it around the driveway! As to tethered -frankly at the time i purchased mine the inertial operated systems were very expensive and if deployed one lost the bag for most of a riding season (I live in Canada - shorter season). I wear a vest style and it's simply the last thing I put on, I wear my usual gear depending on conditions and simply throw the vest on top. I have NEVER had it deploy accidentally (takes quite a tug to deploy it) and recharging it costs $30 canadian and 10 minutes. LOVE your channel and my off road riding is limited to gravel roads.

[@BigRockMoto]

Great info and feedback

[@randylippold1828]

You have probably saved someone’s life with this video. I have been on the fence about air bags for a while and think you have just convinced me to go for it!😊

[@BigRockMoto]

Glad I could help!

[@berrymanter1191]

Bought a Helite vest a couple years ago. Does not false-deploy when I dismount. However, deployed with a minor accident and cracked a rib because cell phone was in chest pocket of jacket. Lesson learned.

[@TheLaughingMan42]

For clarification, your airbag was over your jacket so your phone was between your airbag and your body, and the pressure from the airbag on your phone cracked your rib, right?

[@jamesfairmind2247]

Brilliant safety concept. My only issue re off-road adventure is the 4 deployment service. Not for cost reasons but because for a period of time you will not have an airbag. Not good on big multi week/long distance adventures. example I fell off 7 times in 7,350 miles doing the extended TAT. Just the normal stupid stall on a steep slope and fall type situations that can happen with a bike loaded with 50 lbs of luggage. A fall every 1000 miles of-road is not really that bad. But if I had one of these, technically I would have had to send it away half way through after 4 falls., leaving me unprotected for half the trip. Just saying.

[@rabukan5842]

Just bought two, one for me and one for my wife, and I will sell off or give away all our passive armor. At 66 and about to retire to Spain to travel the continent via motorcycle, there is no reason not to be wearing this technology now that it's available. The Leatt full chest protector I often wear off road is awesome, but it is also hot, is more bulky, and as you said, I need to wear a neck brace. With this airbag system, I will have more protection while being even more comfortable. My other CE2 armored shirts (Bohn Armor) are very comfortable even under a shell, but nowhere near the protection of an airbag, and again, neck brace. Though I am a very safe rider, I do ride off road and on twisties, and one mistake can land us in the hospital. For me, protection is everything on a motorcycle.

[@OlsonADV]

Thanks for the review. It’s a no brainer, it’s on the list for my next gear purchase.

[@BigRockMoto]

Glad to help

[@JohnLaCroixRenaissanceMan]

I think it's worth the money, but what would also be nice would be if the vest had integrated heating so you can plug it into the bike when it gets cold. I really like my heated vest, but those need to be worn just over your base layer. It would be nice to have it built into the vest.

[@Rob801]

I picked up a Klim A1-1 a couple months ago. I went back and forth between tethered and non, over or under. I live in So Cal, so when it is hot, it will be hot no matter what, but the Klim fits very snug and is comfortable under my various jackets (Latitude, Baja S4 and Marrakesh), and will not block air flow on my summer jackets. the Alpine Star looks nice , but would be too bulky for me. One reason I chose the Klim is because they also offer a Rally mode so it will not deploy quite as easily with an off road tip over (that being said I am on road much more than off road). I read all the complaints about subscriptions but in the end it is worth it to me (you can buy the Klim outright for 300 bucks more but I chose the sub plan due to smaller initial investment ($400) plus the module will be replaced if there are any hardware updates or issues). It is just a part of my hobby (pay for my Garmin in reach sub as well).

[@sunnyvalejedi]

I have the Klim as well, and the subscription complaints are way overblown. Ryan F9 didn’t exactly help, telling everyone that their vests would suddenly stop working out of the blue if someone’s visa expired.

[@philipparana9225]

I've had a kilm for 4 years, id rather get updates and 4 years in I spent the same as this new one. I'll probably replace it with the same next year.

[@gregwatts1159]

I'm also using the same system as is in the Klim (In&Motion) and I'm happy paying the subscription. I've received excellent customer service from In&Motion when I needed it.

[@4940markhutchins]

Ditto here. The Rally version has been my go-to for 2 years. It is breathable and stretchy, and works well over my LD Comfort base layer and under my Marrakesh, even in hot temps. I opted for the subscription with In&Motion. I’m not seeing any advantage of the Astars over this setup.

[@leonarose6738]

@@4940markhutchins Not as much shoulder protection on the Klim.

[@JPspinFPV]

I would much prefer if these used standard off the shelf CO2 cartridges.

[@joeblow5037]

No I don't ride on the street like a squid 💰 a good helmet, boots, gloves, and a good riding jacket have served me well for my 52 years (since 14) of riding. ALWAYS be aware of your surroundings, blind spots, and idiots But, to each his own. cheers

[@GSAirTherapy]

I’m wearing a Dainese Smart Vest - love it. No tethering, no subscription, but also no shoulder/collar bone protection. There’s some trade off. Main issue that I’m experiencing is that I bought all my gear to fit snug but not uncomfortable. The idea is to avoid that protection pads are moving on impact. With it being snug, though, the airbag vest may not have enough space to fully inflate. I might have to buy a new coat to accommodate the vest. Still a good investment, though.

[@jamesprecious1035]

So I just had a low speed off on double track on August 10. I was riding a Bata 390. I was in Washington State. I was wearing a Forcefield ProX V2 Armoured shirt. I locked up the front wheel and hit a small drainage ditch that was filled with a small log (complete Pilot error but we all make mistakes). I went over the handlebars and slammed the ground on my side. There is not protection on the side of the Forcefield protection. I broke 6 ribs and punctured a lung. I had to be Medivact. The medical folks that helped me were amazing, local volunteer Fire department, EMS, Life Flight and the Wenatchee Hospital. I just got the bill for the Hospital $42K and Life Flight $67K, yes over a 100 Thousand $...... I think if I was wearing the AStar Tech Air Offroad I would have walked away so the cost is a no brainer.

[@CRedfearn1983]

This was a really well thought out and presented video. Very nice job.

[@BigRockMoto]

Thank you kindly!

[@gregwatts1159]

Fully agree. I'm a huge fan on airbag technology and will continue to invest in it as it improves over the years to come.

[@LloydGrace1]

On a recent trip my friend highsided his KTM 890 wearing a Dainese airbag. He hadn’t thought about his back pack which was tightly fitted. When the airbag deployed it cracked a couple of ribs as had no room to move. Other than that the airbag did a great job and he walked away with only a broken toe. So it’s good that you pointed out loosening the back pack, as obviously very important! Another great video👍

[@jr.6199]

Every airbag vest manual explains the room needed for inflation size. Tech air 5 comes with a small book, but if a rider won't read instructions, they are a danger to themselves with most sophisticated technology around today. Be smart, read the manual.

[@LloydGrace1]

@@jr.6199 Well that goes without saying. Sadly my friend is either lazy or stupid😂

[@jr.6199]

@@LloydGrace1 As Honda says "Stupid Hurts"... read the manual.

[@philljames6802]

Awesome info Ian. Thanks for the review. This is a realistic concern for the aging moto connoisseur 😉

[@Mr1drumlover]

Same here! ✅

[@tolga1cool]

The deployment cost is just too high. Especially if you're dirt riding and have a few little offs a month this gets expensive FAST. The price definitely is bad. Especially for normal earners

[@bsmukler]

This is a timely video and you’ve crammed a lot of useful information into it. I’ve owned the Tech Air 5 for about a year, which works well under racing leathers as well as with street riding gear. I find the battery life to be considerably better than anticipated. It took sometime to get used to pulling it on simultaneously with the upper portion of my race suit, but it is comfortable once in place. The back portion is no big deal when compared with the usual track-focused back protector. The new Alpinestars releases, including this off-road version, are really interesting, not only due to the armor, but particularly because the user can now change the canisters. I’m older, and, for me, the biggest concern about spills and thrills is time lost due to recovery. Injuries and surgeries are not fun, but it is the forced time off the bikes that hurts the most. Alpinestars is providing a real service in their continued development of these sophisticated devices and accompanying firmware, and I am glad you partnered with Revzilla to share this information with us.

[@TheWanderingGeezer]

I just picked up a Helite vest and love it. As an older rider it definitely gives me more confidence when riding alone. I went with a tethered vest due to the simplicity and lack of possible false deployment.

[@ChrisWilkins-t3u]

After >20 years of riding without a major accident / injury I had a bad crash (high side) in 2019 resulting in a destroyed collarbone that has taken me many years and multiple surgeries to recover from, no airbag but my helmet definitely saved my life and my other gear likely reduced the level of other injuries. Since then I have purchased the best available airbags in an attempt to reduce the risk of that happening again. That injury has cost me many times the cost of an airbag in direct medical costs and in terms of lost life opportunities it's orders of magnitude. A year ago I also ended up at the scene of a fatal motorcycle accident and saw the tragic aftermath that I suspect might have been avoidable with gear like this. Beyond just reducing injury recovery I think protecting your torso area is also a potential life saver for more serious crashes. In 2020 I got the Tech Air 5 which I have used extensively and more recently I also got the Tech Air Off road as soon as it became available. It's true that all these systems bring with them a little extra discomfort/bulk and less airflow which isn't ideal but I still don't ride without them. I fortunately haven't had a chance to crash test either system but as suggested in the video I now see these systems much the same as I do a helmet, essential safety gear now that it is available. If you are riding a $15K bike wearing a $500 helmet (and probably at least another $500 in gear) then an extra ~$500-700 for an airbag seems like a pretty reasonable investment (

[@BigRockMoto]

Very well said thank you

[@ChrisWilkins-t3u]

@@BigRockMoto Forgot to mention in my comment but thanks for everything you do on this channel BTW, I really appreciate your detailed and thoughtful videos and reviews, top notch stuff.

[@Matt-vo1ge]

Helite, tethered - positive failure - and none of the subscription and servicing BS.

[@ryanmalone2681]

And completely unbearable most of the year in warm climates…

[@kfree8841]

Also if you don’t fall off the bike it doesn’t work. A quick down in a corner for instance due to gravel on the low side the Helite wouldn’t work

[@nielsmeer]

If you are going less than 15 MPH most of the algorithm airbags like Alpinestars don’t deploy.

[@D73GT]

I have a helite adventure jacket which is great onroad and in the winter. In the summer its miserable and also when offroad I cannot stand up in the proper position because the tether is not long enough. It is good but for offroading something like this would be alot better and breathable

[@Matt-vo1ge]

​@nielsmeer this is it, "some study" found air bags most (or flat out only) effective below 30mph. How your airbag is used depends on your riding and (from the comments) where you are I suppose. For road use, a positive failing system that just requires clipping in is hard to fault (okay it won't deploy if you stay with the bike). If it's offroad then perhaps the Alpinestars/Klim is the way to go, but I understandthat you have to have them serviced after every deployment and replaced ever three or so deployments. I fell loads off-roading so that just wouldn't be economically practical for me. With Helite, you can take a small spill, repack, and whack in a $20 cylinder. They also do a vented jacket and I stand up all the time with my tether, but each to his own. I'm not affiliated with Helite BTW.

[@mengaw-yong2490]

Correct only airbag will reduce prevent serious injury shame people will spend £5-1000 on a helmet but not an airbag also would be wary of crashing and not getting ie paying airbag service 40-70 mph is a lot of force that is possibly going to damage the airbag it’s foolhardy NOT to get it service which means replacing the spent damaged airbag

[@MeerkatADV]

Only problem I have is I can't find replacement cartridges anywhere. Thankfully I haven't set mine off yet, but it's just a matter of time. As for airbags, this is the first full season I'll have converted to the airbag. It took about a week to get used to it (and stop worrying about it randomly going off) and just ride. It's nice knowing I have the protection should I have a really bad one.

[@paul.vanhout57]

I thought you went Tech Air 5 - did you upgrade to the off-road version?

[@MeerkatADV]

@@paul.vanhout57 Initially tried to get the Tech Air 3, couldn't get it (long story) and ended up doing the Tech Air offroad. I've had it since about February and like it a lot.

[@bchdds]

$1,000 alpinestars vest covered by a $700 Mosko jacket. West coast adventure riders are walking around with outfits more expensive than Hollywood stars.

[@Slov_]

still worth it to have your life spared and injury free

[@MeerkatADV]

How much will the ER, surgery, and PT cost?

[@Dave-sw2dm]

​@@Slov_no guarantees that you won't be injured. But should lessen the extent of the injury.

[@martinh8539]

I have a lot of mixed feelings about this. Good gear is expensive. The problem is deciphering good from the gougy marketing speak and ADV is scam city despite it being arguably the most demanding riding anyone can do. Like the vast majority of ADV boots don’t protect your ankles at all. Dropping a 400lb bike- even an 890 on you- sucks lol. There is 0 emphasis on knee stabilization in this world too which is weird. I don’t want to tear my ACL hitting a rock or tree. I would love if someone could come up with a AAA rated (70mph) abrasion resistant shell to layer gear under. Mosko is kinda close. It is so much easier to wear your own merino base layers, a chest protector, and then add on airbag vest, abrasion shell, and maybe a puffer underneath than to try to combine that all into one hot, stuffy jacket. Don’t even get me started on the pants hahaha

[@bchdds]

@@martinh8539 I agree, good gear is needed, but it seems like the marketing departments know their customers are middle aged guys with a nice paycheck and price everything toward the high end of absurdity.

[@robertsonfamilyfarm9126]

As air bigs get more popular and more practical, I’m sure the prices will come down , next we will see cyclist wearing them

[@johnkol]

@18:40 You don't seem to have done your homework: 4cm all around as Alpinestars recommends means that you have to wear a jacket 3 sizes larger than normal. For instance, if you are a chest size 40" (a Medium), then 4cm all around means you need a chest size 50" jacket (an XL). Obviously no one is going to wear such a horribly proportioned garment, which means that you have to get an airbag-specific jacket with expansion panels.

[@Coldgecko]

Now that you have rode with the tech air 5 ... On road only -- just crossing America, which would you wear? Tech air 5 or the Tech air off-road? I feel like the model 5 is lacking the technology of the 7 or off-road with its limitations of replacing canisters and stuff.. And if I was traveling on and off road -- I would def think about the off-road -- but for only on-road travel, what was your opinion about air tech 5?

[@scratastic1]

I'm wondering how a computer has the ability to differ between 3 riding styles, to a level I can understand it being a bit more 'forgiving' to deploy when on Rally mode in comparison to Street mode,, but still it seems like over engineering to me. But maybe I'm completely wrong about that.

[@vwchris1119]

My techair5 went off when I fell over while stationary at a gas pump (kickstand flipped back up and didn't realize). I wish there was a minimum speed setting because it's about $250 (including shipping both ways) for a recharge.

[@NebulaLuna]

Now wear all that in 80+ degree weather all day, I really want to wear an airbag, and I bought the Rev'It Avertum but I get SO hot when riding!!

[@kee7678]

Same. Here in SoCal...and in Baja, too d hot!

[@sideup4041]

My wife and I have been using the Spidi tethered air vest for the past 5 years. Mainly when riding pavement. Fortunately I have never deployed the vest and my wife only once on zero mph tip over on her 990 ktm. Just last week we replaced the Spidi with the Alpinestars Tech 5 air bag system. The tech 5 is so comfortable under my Klim Baja jacket. We ride probably 40% gravel and forest roads and according to the Tech 5 manual is applicable to the Tech 5. The vest of course blocks some air flow but much less than the full off-road Alpinestars off road version. It is nice to know your spouse is protected as much possible plus the cost is off set when compared to a hospital visit.

[@avidessauer154]

For fitting a jacket 4cm extra room around he circumference is the formula given by the Tech Air 7x, not the Tech Air off road. In section 12 of the Tech Air off road manual it says: "measure the circumference of the chest (A) and the garment width on the chest region (A1). The garment is compatible with Tech-Air® Off-Road System if A1 is greater than A divided by 2 plus 16 cm (A1 > 0.5 x A + 16 cm or A1 > 0.5 x A + 6,30 in)" I'm not clear if this is actually needed or why they don't just give a single number circumference number like they do for their other airbags. Have you had it deploy in a jacket yet?

[@kee7678]

Ian, I just got the Apecat 9L from Mosko Moto last week. I think you'll like it, especially with your current setup/air protection system. Have you tried it yet or have one ?

[@ernnen1]

What's about Helite offroad air bag armour vs to Alpinestars thech air. Helite released before Alpinestars but no reviews yet.

[@kawabungah20]

Had not thought about or considered an air bag until seeing this video. Will consider it now, and, if/when, will of course use your links. Thanks.

[@martinfoster5163]

I’ve ordered one and I should have it soon in Mongolia. Maybe the first here. Anyway I’m convinced it’s a revolution in protection. With some caveats. I agree that it needs forearm straps. These keep the elbow armour in place and prevent the shirt riding up the arm in a fall. It really should have side rib protectors. These should be mountable on the straps that secure the chest piece to the back piece. The bladder looks very vulnerable to cut hazards, especially down the upper arms. A large amount of bladder material is only covered by stretch mesh. So you could easily have a side fall not needing a deployment but trashing the bladder because of pointy material on the ground. Or even just riding through trees. This is probably solved by wearing a jacket but who wants to do that in summer? Instead I think the abrasion resistant material should cover the entire bladder. A hole or tear in the bladder would be catastrophic and require a replacement at $300 plus shipping. Finally, I think hard plastic plates would be better for rocky terrain. These should be optional on a tech-air off-road. In particular I’m talking of the elbows, shoulders and side ribs.

[@apatara]

Full gear on, crashed with only abt 40km/h & broke my collarbone. Thankfully I feel almost heeled after 6 weeks. Visit to the doctor this week and then to alpine stars for my first airbag vest. Everything happens for a reason.

[@mikeskidmore6754]

I have gained too much weight to wear anything under my existing jackets. I like the Helite Leather Street and Track vest. I guess it does not have the algorithms needed for dirt riding and the gas canisters are not so expensive.

[@raulmujica]

Thanks for the comprehensive overview -- I've been circling around getting one of these for several months -- a recent accident by someone I ride with off-road who lost a kidney due to internal bleeding after a crash, another friend who recently got one and rides with me and your video where the final pushes I needed -- just ordered one

[@advredbikes]

Thanks again for this awesome video, I’ve seen these advertise. Thank you so much for demonstrating. I will need to get to a store and try them on. I have protective gear in my Klime outfits plus my revitt protection suit for off-road. Question for you, instead of sending the suit belt back to Alpin stars maybe they might have a contract with a certain bike dealer where you could take it in locally and get it serviced. Have you heard of that?

[@Thelnferno]

Hi Ian @BigRockMoto - GREAT review- so much so that I purchased this as I have both a dual sport plus a sport bike that I occasionally track. I want to leverage this airbag system at the track, but I'm concerned about it going off during extreme lean angles. Do you know if the airbag will go off at certain lean angles?

[@EvendimataE]

if its a thick foam thing like water floating vest, it should give the same protection at way cheaper price right? i dont mind the ugly look, if its not expensive...LOL

[@airadaimagery692]

What are they actually doing to your air bag to justify charging $300 for a refresh? Why are the air cartridges so much more expensive than the traditional co2 cartridges that Helite uses? I actually have just recently been researching the tethered vest. I believe that would be more suited for me, mostly due to the cost. I don’t understand what alpine star is selling for $1000 plus &175 for refills, plus $300 for refresh. On top of all that I would still have to remember to charge the thing. I feel like Alpine star purposely designed this one as a way to create a steady flow of income from a single product... The Helite Turtle 2 vest is a bit more appealing to me and would fit my style of riding a little bit better. Alpine star should think about offering something similar for people who don’t have this kind of money. A $600ish “budget” option.

[@KaelanRios]

If I’m wearing a backpack, I’m not wearing an airbag vest - I’m buying a Helite backpack (has space for hydration pack). It would suck to have a loose backpack when working single track. And if I’m touring, I sure don’t want extra weight on the shoulders, so luggage goes in bags, and then I can wear an airbag vest.

[@TheIdlesurfer]

In UK, with our socialist NHS, when I bust my collar bone in an off road spill, I had my shoulder fixed, with no bill. You Yanks could learn a thing or two from we Europeans. A trip to A&E, (ER I think you call it) is free. Yes, we pay tax. But we try to look after each other even if the UK seems to want to take its lead from the US.

[@LawrenceWeber-z5o]

No, never going to get one. been riding for 55 years, mostly off-road, raced desert, hare scrambles and enduros. very competitive B or A rider depending on age category etc. Can count my crashes on one hand, and nothing major. almost never wore chest protector and did not start wearing knee or elbow protectors until a mashed my knee on a rock a few years back.

[@VizziMoto]

What about legs? Thanks for the video!

[@anbukimu5292]

Hello Ian, hope you are doing well. Do you have any plans in the future to review the CFMoto 450mt? I'm waiting for your opinion on it because its a chinese bike and honestly I don't trust other KZbinrs that much. Thank you and stay safe!

[@tymobyrne4451]

Does it protect better than my level two ballistic vest? It doesn't need to inflate....studies have shown it's a great chest protector due to i9ncidents studied by those wearing these types of vests and being hit by trucks mirrors as the idiots went by the traffic stop.

[@KenoLettice]

Can someone do a motor bike styling fashion expo with the different layers of the safety protection gears. That can blend in with the everyday life style living.

[@bronzeage_222]

This is a good review but work on some personality bro. Smile. F9 channel is a great template for perfection productions. Keep going.

[@rone4553]

Fantastic video like usual! How is the sizing? I'm always between a L and M. Would you size up or down if you are in between?

[@Michael-qo8bs]

Why! Pray tell is it black!! It's gonna be hot as hell in the summer in the south!!!😡😡😡😲😲😡😡🤬

[@big566bunny]

Another excellent production. Ian not only reviews the product but also gives practical tips how to use the airbag in a variety of scenarios AND how to integrate it with other gear. 5 stars! I am now considering buying this gear because I can see the solution of what to do after the airbag deploys. Before I supposed that one would finished the ride with a deflated bag and no protection. The cartridge idea is great. 👍 👌

[@BigRockMoto]

Glad it was helpful!

[@gringoloco2000]

This was good, but the Helite coverage was too light. The backpack deserves more attention. I have a Helite tethered mesh jacket and the electronic backpack. They are great, but there is no offroad option yet.

[@idle_q3699]

hello bigrockmoto! Would you say this offers better protection than the tech air 5? Is the shoulder and ribs covered by airbag systems?

[@_Makanko_]

Will the vest be functional during charging? If you forget and ran out of battery but can run a cable from your bike or a battery bank, that might be an option to still have it deployable charging on the go? Thanks Ian

[@scottrussell6646]

Offroad, I can crash 3 - 4 times in day. Airbag would be great, how do i re arm / refill the protective charge on the trail?

[@hansenallan84]

I have Helites new off-road airbag and I love it. None of this subscription bill shit, digital like alpinestars, it has two cartridges so you can just get up and go without reloading it. Love it!

[@occrash5616]

Sadly, it does not protect the ribs against a lateral fall, such as mine where i broke 5 ribs laterally. It only offers passive protection and it doesn't cover all the ribcage. The only other airbag that does cover the full ribcage in its entirety, is the tech air 5. Sadly, the tech air 5 does not offer an off-road mode.

[@Mr1drumlover]

Thanks for this information, I'm going to get one. I really learn a lot from your channel. Thanks again!

[@GraemeRobinson]

If I was riding competition, this is definitely something I'd use. For everyday or recreational riding? Meh. I don't think I can be bothered. I can barely put up with the amount of safety gear I already wear, though I have diligently worn leather (and latterly modern synthetic jackets), motorcycle boots, proper gloves and helmet, all of my motorcycling days. I have recently learned that there's no statistical proof that body armour protects against fractures (worse, its manufactured that way), so I'm considering dispensing with most of it, and just wearing skin protection, since armour is so bulky and uncomfortable. I still wear modern leather pants when touring - there's nothing like leather for comfort, weather protection and skin protection in sliding accidents. Riding is inherently risky so we should all ride accordingly and wear helmet and skin protective outer wear in the event that safe riding isnt' enough to keep us upright. Adding complexity like this for minimal added safety compromises overall safety by diverting our limited attention from things that really matter. Not to mention its more junk we have to maintain, charge and coddle. No thankyou.

[@choochtech]

I want one so bad, for electric unicycle riding.

[@bradg.3306]

lmao.

[@choochtech]

@@bradg.3306 You have no idea what you missing out on. I ride a XR650 too but the EUC's are incredible fun.

[@jameslee5428]

Thank you for the wealth of information that you give to all of us out here in the motorcycling community. I believe in all the gear all the time. Thanks to you, I am buying that airbag system.

[@PleasantPaul]

A well designed airbag like the A* Tech 5 and Helite Turtle series also protect your neck so you don’t need a neck brace. The Helite Turtles also protect your coccyx. Unfortunately Helite’s electronics are sub par to Klim and A*, so stick to tethered if in the US.

[@TheLaughingMan42]

I want one but they're so expensive. I wish I could get a good tether airbag for $300 or less.

[@yzrnu]

hi, do you know if this can be worn even when it's raining? Some jackets are waterproof/water resistant

[@ciaravino20757]

I ride with a Helite eTurtle. Thankfully never tested it. The Helite has the largest volume of air and the canisters are user replaceable.

[@petergrabsch3736]

Good for cooler climates for sure unfortunately for me I live in a hot humid climate so this won't work unfortunately

[@djm6900]

I live in a warmer part of the US. I use the Dainese D-air vest because I can wear it over my Knox Urbane mesh. I've found this combo has the best airflow. The only drawback to the Dainese D-air is that the canisters sit lower on the back and place the mass lower instead of on the shoulder blades; but, unlike the A-stars, it can be worn as the outer layer. I encourage everyone to find the airbag system that works best for them and ride safely.

[@BigRockMoto]

Great info thanks

[@RobertKehl]

Come on an airbag vest for dirt bikes. That’s silly. Not advisable. It’s pretty normal to go down in the dirt or should I say mud on a regular basis. I can’t imagine having an airbag going off on a simple get off. And what an inconvenient it would be plus the cost. Not for me. Maybe if I was doing some high speed desert racing. But for Recreational hill climbing or single track no.

[@dillonmoore6376]

Glad to see you did a review on these, I will be getting one!

[@BigRockMoto]

Glad I could help!

[@Mike.4639]

I have the Leatt 5.5 and its almost not possible to wear it in summer . Pretty sure this is much worse.

[@endurorideraja6766]

i wouldn't mind wearing an airbag, as long as they can make them affordable to the masses, and easy reset or replaceable.

[@volvogt21]

My tech air 5 needs an inspection every 300 hours of use. How ofter does this need to be aent off?

[@jeffbanfieldsflwr3537]

You would think insurance companies would cover some of the cost.

[@gregwatts1159]

Here in France they are starting to give you a discount on your annual insurance premium. Not all insurers are on board yet, but I'm sure they will be forced to as Airbags become more mainstream.

[@jeffbanfieldsflwr3537]

@@gregwatts1159 that's awesome.

[@gmarcos95]

Something to consider: the gentleman at Adventure Rider Radio recently had a session with Dr. Chris Leatt and part of the discussion was airbag vest. BLUF: there’s limited data supporting the effectiveness of an airbag over a neck brace.

[@BigRockMoto]

I listened to that episode but note sure that guy is impartial since his whole business is neck braces.

[@kantill]

I would love to get one, but they can't be shipped to Alaska.

[@Nbxcortez]

Would this fit under something like the Klim badlands pro A3 suite?

[@Patrick_Fre]

Hello Ian, thanks for your great reviews! I got the same TechAirOffroad but couldn‘t place it underneath my BL Pro jacket. Do you already have experience under which current laminated adv jackets this fits? Appreciate your answer!👍

[@BigRockMoto]

It will work with almost any, but you'll need to size up

[@hamerplayer1229]

Looks amazing only limitation would be in cold weather. If you use heated gear. There is no way to use a heated jacket with a system like this. 😥This is also a limitation of Armor Suits and why I have to put the armor back into my jacket when the weather gets cold.

[@BigRockMoto]

Great point!

[@thefathippy]

Why couldn't I wear my heated gear under the air jacket?

[@JohnnyPowRides]

I just got one from Revzilla. I just had a bad crash and destroyed my left shoulder. I had a broken shoulder socket, shattered scapula, broken ribs, partially collapsed lung, and separated ligaments on my clavicle. I was wearing full protective gear, but it just wasn’t enough due to the impact and the angle I hit the rock road surface.

[@brianglendenning1632]

Sorry to hear. About your injuries. I had some of your injuries (ribs, pneumothorax, grade 5 shoulder) from a crash in a mountain bike race, and after those (lesser) injuries I have been looking closely at an airbag vest. For me seems a no brainer if it reduces injuries. Hope your recovery is progressing well

[@JohnnyPowRides]

@@brianglendenning1632 mountain bike crash - ouch! I suppose the tree didn't jump out of the way... Yipes!! I am recovering well and stoked for an upcoming trip. The airbag vest is kind of an extra insurance policy that if anything happens again I can make it home.

[@Na5tyify]

You mention you get less airflow when wearing this so can you wash it?

[@chonkyb3134]

Does the Tech Off Road have to be worn UNDER a jacket?

[@robocombo]

Not this year, probably next. Tech Air is high on the list. Refuse to consider anything subscription based

[@BigRockMoto]

I agree about subscriptions, thankfully A-stars doesn't do that

[@user-ku6qy4sm5i]

What is the current opinion on neck braces? I don't see you wearing one in any of your videos. Are they incompatible, fallen out of favor, or what? I have one but don't always wear it since it is somewhat restrictive and doesn't work with most of my jackets. Are these airbags helpful for neck and/or collarbone injuries?

[@BigRockMoto]

The airbag replaces a neck brace so it's great. Never liked wearing them

[@kierancasey1135]

How do these work in remote areas with no cell reception

[@erichalker6667]

My choice would be between this a* tech air off road or the Helite e- turtle 2. Any review of the Helite planned?

[@BigRockMoto]

Yes

[@kjonasson10]

@@BigRockMotoThe Helite off road version?

[@waynev5097]

????? With Alpine star after it inflates how do you deflate it??

[@Chance-ry1hq]

I’m never riding without t-shirt and jeans again!

[@rjsalameh]

The best motorcycle related reviews on YT or anywhere for that matter!!! TY!!!

[@foamysking]

The airbag push this year is massive but between the cost and the tradeoffs on activation methods gonna give it a few years to shake out in the consumer market

[@BigRockMoto]

Totally understand

[@tylermcdonald8965]

When the TAOF came out I immediately sold my other airbags. I had a Klim vest, a Helite vest, and a RST integrated airbag jacket. I now wear my ATOF daily commuting and when I’m on the trails. To me, there’s no reason to get anything else unless you ride on the track.

[@RidinDirty86]

Can I ask what kind of tracks you ride? I just got into enduro, and I’m concerned about false positive deployments. Each deployment is essentially $85. Ointment and Tylenol is about $1. I just don’t want to have it activate every time that I’m tossed off.

[@tylermcdonald8965]

@@RidinDirty86 I’m a slow poke on a big bike so take my case with a grain of salt. I mostly ride tighter technical trails in the PNW so I don’t get up a lot of speed. With that said I’ve dropped my bike and been thrown off a fair share going at moderate speeds and never had any false deployments. If you’re a quick rider I would run it in ‘Rally’ mode and you should be good as that only deploys in the more extreme scenarios.

[@RidinDirty86]

@@tylermcdonald8965 That sounds great! I’m a slower rider when it comes to technical stuff. I ride a DR650 on dual sport days with longer road stretches, and a 350 for single track/enduro days. This seems like it’d be a good investment if it works as designed.

[@andrewthompson1313]

An upgrade to CE Level 2 passive back, shoulder and elbow protectors would probably sell me on this product. I am reluctant to give up CE Level 2 protection in my current mesh jacket. A Helite Turtle 2 Airbag Vest (tether system) on top of my mesh jacket currently strikes me as a better approach (for me). I need to ride on pavement to get to dirt roads and trails.