What is a CHALLENGER Combine?

[@LACYish1]

Love it when the content is something other than John Deere,

[@halwilliams1682]

Great looking machine. Thank you for posting a video with something besides John Deere.

[@pootmahgoots8482]

I grew up on a farm near the Challenger manufacturing plant in Jackson, MN. We always dreamed of having a Challenger piece of equipment whether it be a combine or a tractor. Never got around to it though.

[@douglassellers7528]

These and Massey combines were very good combines. Great video.

[@davidlogel2350]

They are the same machine.

[@jurgentraunspurger915]

Hello boys, I'm from Germany (Bavaria) and find this channel great. Thank you for the super videos with big machines. I looked it since 2016.

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching since 2016. It is neat to know the videos are watched in Germany and other parts of the world. This combine was sold as a Fendt in green in Holland.

[@kevinpaul627]

Thanks Jason for the history lesson 👍🍻🇺🇸

[@SimonKL11]

Challenger was a nice brand😁👍 cool to see a challenger combine, thanks for sharing👍👍

[@luisnunes7933]

Hello! Glad to watch another fine video!

[@ScottPykare]

Always been a huge fan of the Caterpillar equipment and now Agco. I also like the Caterpillar/Challenger colors. Good looking combine for sure! Great video Jason👍🏻👍🏻.

[@thedonleroy]

I saw my first Challenger combine here where I live in Minnesota. It is still sitting at the Case dealership. I had never seen one before.

[@Stoparts]

Bravo colleagues, cool channel and agricultural equipment 🤑

[@mfreund15448]

Good looking wheat!

[@bigtractorpower]

It was a good crop.

[@ikonseesmrno7300]

Still have a first generation CAT 480 on tracks & a 65C for the grain cart.... in 1/64. 😁

[@DoEverythingWell]

Beautiful Combine!

[@bigtractorpower]

I had wanted to find a Challenger for many years. This was a nice one to film.

[@craigsibley8161]

Another excellent video BTP 👍👍👍

[@Oliver66FarmBoy]

As much as I like my AGCO equipment I really wish Cat never would have sold out to them and just stayed in the AG market themselves. You can keep the Cat yellow paint but without those three letters on the side and Cat power plants under the hood it’s just not the same.

[@7rixee]

Im sure an ad agency will make you uv protected and weather proof decals🤔

[@jonaslarsen5251]

At least the CAT combines have always been made by Claas.

[@Canis_Lupus_Rex]

​@@jonaslarsen5251CAT made combines long before Class ever came to the U.S. Look into the history of the Caterpillar, they were making combines in the early 1900's.

[@xSCHEF]

Man, the new CLAAS combines are flagship machines. There’s no brand loyalty in AG mate it’s all about performance no matter the brand.

[@Hinesfarm-Indiana]

Good video Jason

[@troyp467]

I used to wonder who would of run a Massey combine now but now that I know the heritage behind the line coming from White I find them super interesting. Sad to see them get discontinued for sure.

[@frankscruggs4749]

Good video.

[@VIP.BUILT.INC.]

Hi Jason. Nice to see. They sold some in South Africa.

[@bigtractorpower]

Very cool. I did not know that.

[@GeorgeBuerk]

We have had Massey combines combines for 45 years. We run a 9540 today,I don't know about what the next one will be? Trading colors today can expense.

[@derekwilson4383]

We run 3 challenger 680B combines in Northern manitoba

[@bigtractorpower]

Very cool. I went to AGCO at the National Farm Machinery show in 2011 and asked where I might find Challenger combines to film. They told me they were most popular in Norther Canada.

[@derekwilson4383]

@@bigtractorpower come on up sometime

[@404nitro]

I can't recall ever seeing a Challenger combine anywhere in all out travels through farm country over the last 20+ years. A few tractors of various models though. They seem to be a very area specific operated machine.

[@bigtractorpower]

This was the first one I’ve ever been able to catch up with in the field. AGCO had a 680B on display at the National Farm Machinery Show in 2010.

[@404nitro]

@@bigtractorpower Wow, I didn't realize that. I always thought I had seen them on here before, since this is about the only place I can think of that may have had them on the channel. Glad you got this one.

[@josemariagarciagarcia3277]

Preciosa, da gusto verla

[@brendenfunk1389]

I own the Massey version of this combine. Their great. They also made a gleaner version too

[@bigtractorpower]

They are nice combines. The farm in this video traded their Gleaner A86 for this 560C. The farmer talks about the upgrades he likes in the 560C over the A86. Initially in 2011 it was planned to offer an A87 on a custom order basis but it did not happen.

[@jonaslarsen5251]

In Europe there was a Fendt version availabld aswell.

[@jamieshields9521]

Of all combine brochures I haven’t got Challenger, although I do have MF version n only chance that I stop at MF dealership which had one on demonstration. Very rare to see this Challenger or MF here in Australia, at the time AGCO was selling 1 MF to 6 Gleaner of this model, this model was very underrated.

[@rickiemckillip8124]

Caterpillar Used There Name on Claas Lexion Combines

[@bjjarnecke]

Don't know if you ever caught them in the field, but there was a large operation on the south side of Indianapolis that ran these for a few years. The farm isn't around anymore, but it was cool to see these machines in the MacAllister Ag calendar.

[@bigtractorpower]

I think it was called Indy Atlantic Farms. It was cool to see an all Challenger farm. .

[@nellsonstout7001]

@@bigtractorpowerIndy Family Farms. That was like 20 miles from me

[@halwilliams1682]

A victim of urban sprawl?

[@BradBensly81]

@@halwilliams1682went bankrupt is what I heard. they were just north of me

[@nellsonstout7001]

@@halwilliams1682I know I’m like a year late, but no, not at all. A victim of greed, scumbaggery, and a bad business model. They were absolutely hated.

[@jamesbarbour8400]

As always with BTP, it is great to get the background on machines, which in some instances at least, were badge engineering exercises. I notice in this video, the operator has left a fairly long stubble. Presumeably this is so as not to needlessly overload the combine or perhaps it's to do with reducing potential soil erosion ?

[@wayneharney8]

Longer stubble holds more moisture and helps shield the soil from evaporation.

[@jamesbarbour8400]

@@wayneharney8 hi and thank you for your reply to my question. 👍

[@adamrogers3946]

Neat combine. Was there an Agco bailing team as well coming to bale the straw.

[@bigtractorpower]

This is a very AGCO/Allis farm. The straw was baled by another farm using New Holland. I did not see the baling team.

[@benkpsnyder]

Hey jason. Our renters in iowa use a claas 770 with 12 row corn head

[@bigtractorpower]

Very nice. Lexion combines are good machines.

[@robingodfrey3931]

Cool

[@bobnistler]

NICE

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@Zero01k]

The reason you don't see as many Challenger combines is most Cat dealers were Claas dealers and wanted to sell you a Lexion over a yellow Massey.

[@Zero01k]

And now some Cat dealers are dropping Claas to sell you a Fendt Idea combine over a Claas Lexion.

[@lnpipeline3306]

@@Zero01k Yeah, that’s one good thing about having all John Deere equipment. Things don’t change much with them. Not saying Deere is better.

[@Zero01k]

Ordering parts is not a hassle anymore these days, not like it use to be, availability is another recent issue, but before corona wasn't a big issue. We don't typically rely on a dealer for any of our equipment since most of it is used equipment. It's a fuzzy feeling when you go to your local 20+ stores Deere dealer for a pretty common part on a piece of machinery and none of the 20+ stores doesn't have the part you want.

[@troyp467]

I don't know how I'm now just realizing challenger was doing what I thought would be a good model number series. Just keep the number and to through letters fighter jet style. Makes it easy to know what exactly your taking about that's for sure

[@dr.medwurst4547]

Are these AGCO rotary combines still in production? Is the MF combine plant still open?

[@bigtractorpower]

AGCO produces Gleaner combines in HESSTON, Kansas and Massey and Fendt combines in Lavarda, Italy. The Gleaner and Fendt Ideal are the two AGCO combines offered by AGCO in the US. The Gleaner is now sold by Massey Ferguson.

[@JoãoVitorSilvaborges-m1u]

the challenger harvester in Brazil is valtra

[@timgear9892]

If AGCO dropped the Challenger in 2019, where does one go to get parts and service?

[@bigtractorpower]

At an AGCO dealer. While they no longer produce Challenger combines the company will continued to offer parts and service for them. The Fendt Ideal combine from AGCO replaced the Challenger.

[@paulofrancisco565]

Parabens eu sou seu fã amo seu canal e seus vídeos sucesso sempre 👏👏👌👌👍👍🚜🚜🇧🇷🇧🇷

[@williamgreenway9893]

Not bad!

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@ChrisHarding-lk3jj]

I thought the 680b has a cat c13 not c15.

[@bigtractorpower]

According to the sales brochure a C15.

[@davidbrennan3613]

That's a monster of a combine

[@deanoz9307]

I thought Durum was used for Pasta?

[@bigtractorpower]

The farmer told me the wheat in this field was used for pasta.

[@deanoz9307]

@@bigtractorpower always great videos Jason, love watching them. Thanks for all your hard work Sir.

[@buddymac3993]

A Combine that breaks down continually,a CHALLENGER??🇨🇦😄

[@thesicklemodernagriculture]

This machine is amazing when invented to replace human

[@bigtractorpower]

It is a harvesting factory on wheels feeding the world.

[@ВикторДонецкий-к8э]

Здравствуйте вас беспокоит,из России механизатор поповуду регулировки комбаина челенджер серий 660,670,670в,680 .кто сможет выслать таблицу регулировок:пщеница,подсолнечник,кукуруза и другие культуры.

[@Jared-91]

This is so confusing. CAT combines are Claas combines, CAT had Challenger, but dropped the ag line and sold it to AGCO. Now Challenger is just yellow Massey?

[@Zero01k]

Pretty much, Cat never had any combine and AGCO painted Masseys yellow, this is why I'm glad Claas is in their own colors over here, no more confusion

[@stevenstutley4062]

Massey ferguson combine in yellow

[@jamesbarbour8400]

It just occurred to me that the combine operator looks somewhat like Eminem, the Rap Artist ! 🤣

[@bethmotgomery2662]

Macdon, MacDonald, Oh! Old Macdon Ald😂😂

[@bigtractorpower]

#macdoncutsit one of the most popular ways to harvest grain.

[@bethmotgomery2662]

I understand that but I was joking about the brand name Macdon. It's a coincidence of a classic song!! old Macdon- Ald Get it??

[@Andaman1979999]

Jd combine but i do own a challenger tractor

[@bigtractorpower]

👍👍

[@piperdoug428]

It seemed like such a redundant move to just paint a Massey combine

[@bigtractorpower]

They started in 2002 with the idea of a full line to compete with Deere and Case IH. The idea would be that you would have AGCO credit for a multi unit discount. Yet AGCO never really promoted the idea or the machines.

[@piperdoug428]

@@bigtractorpower corporate dreams meet real world applications

[@snowman5609]

If you ask me agco screwed themselves when they discontinued the challenger and the massey combine lines in favor of that piece of junk ideal fendt. We ran massey combines from 1963 to 2019 when we traded all four 9565 massey combine for four new casih combines takes to our former massey dealer giving us a heads up so we could trade before no one wanted a discontinued piece of equipment again we still believe agco made a huge mistake but they will never admit it because they are so deep in bed with fendt and that ideal mistake.

[@buckhorncortez]

"...deep in bed..." Okay. Agco has owned Fendt since 1997. It's simply one of their product lines, not a nefarious farm equipment plot...

[@mfreund15448]

Cat Agriculture or the Challenger brand was really starting to gain ground around me when they pulled the plug on the brand. We all know, parts availability it what drives satisfaction after the sale.

[@lnpipeline3306]

Having a CAT powertrain made them attractive. It didn’t seem like could give away yellow tractors when they dropped CAT. Juggling brands around, dropping this and adding that, having 3 different engine manufacturers in less than a decade, probably has not been good for business. On top of all that, some KZbinrs gave bad reviews on the Fendt combines.

[@garyroach3479]

They were nice combines, but the problem is they were too heavy. If you want to get combined, you get a new Gleaner or Case international stay away from that piece of junk John Deere, though