Bike Shop’s Embarrassing Display Mistake + Pro Team ROW Over Rider - The Wild Ones Podcast Ep.27

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Things got awkward in the world of pro cycling this week as Jumbo-Visma announced the signing of young rider Cian Uijtdebroeks, only for Bora-Hansgrohe to claim he's legally theirs until the end of next year. We chat about this, plus Wiggo's latest revelation and Halford's embarrassing Christmas bike display with guitarist and cycling commentator Perry Ap Gwynedd. Check him out here: / perryguitar666
Here’s the full breakdown:
00:00 Jimmi’s Best Friend Is Here!
02:31 Jumbo-Visma & Bora-Hansgrohe At WAR Over Rider Contract
10:03 Pronouncing Unfamiliar Names On Live TV
11:40 How Perry Got His Big Break In Cycling
13:57 Bradley Wiggins Says He Doesn’t Ride A Bike Anymore
17:13 Can You Stay Passionate About Your Hobby When It’s Your Job?
19:59 Halfords’ Embarrassing Bike Display
24:18 Most Memorable Cycling Moments Of All Time…
25:16 Mark Cavendish Breaks Collarbone at TdF 2014
26:46 Geraint Thomas Wins Paris-Nice 2016
27:46 Geraint Wins Stage One Of Tdf 2017
28:31 Geraint Becomes First Welsh TdF Winner 2018
29:32 Crying On Live TV…
32:29 Wout Van Aert At The 2012 TdF
34:39 2022 Paris Roubaix
35:15 Lizzie Deignan Wins First Ever Paris Roubaix Femmes
36:41 Our Thoughts On Cobbles
37:48 Overrated/Underrated: Carbon Forks On Alloy Bikes
39:31 Overrated/Underrated: Bike Computers
43:37 Overrated/Underrated: Washing Your Bike After Every Ride
44:58 Overrated/Underrated: Group Rides
46:14 Overrated/Underrated: Being A Rockstar
49:48 Fluff Up Of The Week: Perry’s On-Stage Nightmare
52:52 Does Big Saddle To Drop Ratio Look ‘Cool’?
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[@examinethose]

this is the coolest podcast guest you can have wtf

[@IPlodAllDay]

Perry was great! Bring him back please 😄

[@deemey95]

regarding the comparison to F1 and the Piastri situation, its even crazier than Perry described. Alpine had been dragging their feet on signing new conracts with two of their drivers, 1 main (Alonso) and Reserve (Piastri).They waited so long that contract options on the two of them expired and they were able to enter into negotiations with other teams. Alpine assumed that they would never leave and tried to give worse contracts. Alonso stunned everyone by suddenly announcing he was leaving for Aston Martin, which set off a panic at Alpine. They decided to announce Piastri as the new driver and to then thrrow money at him and whatever he needed in his contract to take the gig. But by that point it was already too late and Piastri had already signed with Mclaren. Alpine could have avoided the whole thing if the had signed their side of the contracts a couple weeks earlier.

[@cb6866]

Thanks Jimmi , Perry and Emily . That was awesome !

[@adyblanchard5438]

Re Sam's question, after my bike fit (with 'Bike Fit James'), I have effectively no drop from saddle to handlebars but am very comfortable and can do long rides without issues. Don't be worried about how it looks or what other people might say. Great podcast by the way!

[@thespannermonkey5883]

I was a cycle tech for Halfords for 7 years. I was lucky at the time as we had 4 big bike guys but none lasted long as Hellfrauds dont like the bikehut despite the fact it kept the company going during covid. I left when new manager destroyed my workshop in favour of extra storage for auto debt. I would never buy anything other than a tube from them.

[@djiembefolaDan]

The bike setup snafu hit home for me. I did the exact same thing on my daughter's bike a while back, and recently helped some friends at a non-profit setup three dozen new Specialized bikes for a school. Apparently, quite frequently the stem is set 180 degrees out of alignment, so if you go by that, you will then proceed to attach the handlebars to the stem out by 180 degrees, it's when you then attempt to insert the front wheel where you immediately see your error, because the caliper is on the wrong side! I remarked about this to my non-profit buddies, and they all laughed and said "they all came that way". So there is a reason the stem is setup "backwards", but I don't know for the life of my why. Usually, you catch the error and make things right and don't put the bike on display or such. And usually you only make this mistake once!!

[@ewanlivlingstone1759]

great guest and show this week guys, very entertaining.

[@leightondavies8884]

You can still get Boardmans at Halfords …. and Tredz too ( part of the Halfords group of companies) the Boardmans offer amazing value for money too and historically they have been great bikes in terms of reliability and component choice

[@_rcs]

I bought a Boardman road bike from Halfords in 2019. They still sell them.

[@user-ku4qe8xu2k]

Awesome content again and what a brilliant guest Perry was

[@rebelkallus]

Omg awesome guest, I had no idea he was a cycling commentator! (New sub, only just found your podcast too) When I was really young and first got into pro cycling, I used to make fan edits and one of them was a Sagan one to a pendulum song lol

[@HappyYouTube265]

Great episode as always. Love the chat about the world tour and pro peloton. Amazing guest of course!

[@romankarabutin3781]

Now we demand G to be a guest of the podcast🙌🙌🙌 Great job guys and Emily🤙🏼

[@Stevenv74]

I have a friend who is a bike mechanic for halfords and he is one of the best people I know for fixing bikes . If he worked in any other LBS people would luv him .

[@Andy-co6pn]

It's just a postcode lottery though, no consistency across the chain

[@Stevenv74]

Yea that's very true

[@82vitt]

My local ones may not know what bb386evo is, but they are always very friendly and willing to help as best as they can, and when I talk to explain what I am after, they just listen. Unlike the ones in the posh bike shops who are often arrogant and can't be arsed unless I sound like I have a fat wallet and willing to unload that weight on their counter.

[@_MrSnrub]

Perry was a fun guest! Definitely an interesting chap.

[@d9dga]

Normally listen to the podcast on my pod-app, but once i heard the intro, I HAD to come watch on YT. Good show guys

[@olsmxl6975]

like these long format interviews/podcasts - Perry was fun to hear

[@paulawright6868]

So Francis without a cap, great haircut and not shaving looks like Perry from Pendulum, who would have thought 🤷‍♂️

[@kevinlyon9501]

That was great what an interesting chat,.so many good stories.

[@user-my7ok7dt5n]

Best podcast so far, really great guest, should be a permanent feature from now on

[@peterthomas8053]

Another great podcast, as usual.👍 What's the betting that the display Halfords bike is either,(1) not on display first thing tomorrow morning, or, (2) it's been been assembled correctly/ replaced with with another bike. Hwyl fawr i chi.

[@MjolnirMarks]

On historic fitness - I was obsessed with football, and injured myself at a high-level aged 18, playing senior football. The coaches kept playing me through injury, and my groin is buggered still, 15 years later. I can never play how I once did, and so I don’t even step foot on a pitch. And this is why I’m not falling into cycling 🤣

[@Hyfly13]

Diolch pawb. Da iawn. Peredur I remember hanging out with you Sion and Rhodri when you were recording Dom's InMudEelsAre. Good to see you doing well 👍🏻

[@crankshoptv8141]

Back in the day when I learned to fix bikes at Cytech, the main lady from Bikehut was also there with the intent of making a shorter, cut down version of the training for staff. Concerned me at the time, fast forward a decade and a bit...

[@SJPMs]

I work part time as a cycle tech at Halfords. Only people who have had some cycle training are allowed to assemble display bikes. But in practice staff shortages ( min wage / poor working conditions) mean anyone can be asked to pull a bike out of a box, slap some tat on and then replace the Blackfriday price sticker with something a little more festive. Halfords have a license to sell lower end Boardman bikes (which on the whole offer excellent value) but do not own Boardman. Halfords understand their market very well and are not interested in selling high(er) end product at lower margins; they have Tredz to do that for them.

[@CycleXplorer]

Well this was enlightening, never knew the pendulum guitarist was also a cycling commentator. Changes the image of the rockstar slightly 😂

[@davemason3927]

Don't normally comment, but this was excellent.Superb guest and really interesting. All the best Francis too.

[@Cycling-through-cancer]

This podcast goes from strength to strength. Loving the Welsh angle as well. Ref Boardman, my first bikes were a Boardman Road Sport then a Team Carbon. Great bikes and they got me going. A ten year old Team Carbon is the perfect winter bike now and they hold value.

[@eddymaddix1786]

Alpine failed to finalise Oscar Piastri's contract by the deadline in the previous contract.

[@MattSwain1]

When it comes to saddle to bars drop, it’s a lot to do with how flexible you are in your hips, back and pelvis. Sure you can get into some extreme positions by curving your upper spine but that’s not going to be good for you. Work on your flexibility, maybe take up yoga, if you want to have an extreme looking set-up… but as the guys said, being comfortable is all that really matters

[@8rk]

When I was studying motion graphics / animation in school, every project would have a Pendulum song in it. Was fun watching the whole class banging heads and tapping feet watching my stupid animations 😄Looped their albums over and over and over while working on school projects, then while working when professional, then while riding when I got into cycling. Gonna be listening to them tonight on the trainer while I bang out some intervals 🍻

[@MikeJenicCycling]

Thoroughly enjoyed this, Perry was brilliant!

[@merckxy54]

Good podcast , great to have a chat with other 'infamous ' people! And yes please try to get Lizzie on here!

[@a_diverge]

Great podcast..enjoyed very much 💯

[@johnsfulton]

Superb episode, great content.

[@Jimmidoesstuff]

Best day of my life. Diolch, Peredur.

[@johngannon1]

New to Cade and really enjoying it. Boardman bikes are owned and sold by Halfords. They’re great bikes and it is a right of passage that all kids bikes come from Halfords!

[@anonymousone6075]

how do you see your cadence on a watch? and it does have to be on your wrist if you want to record your heart rate, spo2 etc...

[@paullinnitt7710]

I once saw a Carrera with 'back to front' forks in a bike rack (in Swansea actually) i left a note telling the rider that they should have it fixed and suggested going to a LBS. Not as rare as you might imagine.

[@stevenscott7738]

Best episode so far - great guest - just missing some sound clips from the band..

[@andothegrew]

Does anyone know the orange route Perry mentioned in Belgium?

[@a1white]

Don’t think there is anything wrong with buying a bike from Halfords. I’d just take it to your trusted LBS to get it checked out and properly setup.

[@kevfile8992]

Yeah but when is Pendulum going to release a another full album? 🥺👉👈

[@justsomedude7556]

when Jimmi was saying he did not want his music to feel like work, I remember when I was growing up, my mom got me into baseball when I was about 6, I played so much baseball as I got older, lived it, breathed it, I earned a college scholarship to a div 1 university, then after about 3 weeks, I decided this had become work was no longer fun. I lost all desire to play another inning and dropped out of school which was the best thing I ever did. I do not watch baseball on TV since the mid 1980's, and only go to the minor league games I have in my town maybe 1 or 2 times a year. I completely gave it up, never to care about it again.

[@jonburnell532]

Yes Boardman bikes still exist and the company is owned by Halfords.

[@mikeradman]

My question, when do you switch from phone to bike computer?

[@clonzedshacozedplayer4064]

As a 'cycle technician' that does work fro Halfords I can hand on heart say that the bikes we sell would categorically not go out like this. That's not to say that every Halfords have good cycle technicians. I have had many cases where customers have brought in bikes built up by other Halfords stores that are this poor. I'm no expert but can honestly say ive never built a bike for a customer or display that hasn't been safety checked are are 100% safe for people to ride! Bar a few technician services there's not a repair I possibly couldn't do. It is a very lazy display but the mudguards do have a channel for cable routing and the handlebars would have been spun that way purposefully as the handlebars would have needed to be attached so this would have been a conscious choice. but as for the forks that is shocking....

[@robertlowe7950]

Great show

[@nathancook5627]

This is unreal, I've been listening to Pendulum for years, since being introduced to Rob Swire via Hardline Rekordingz and Max, never had any idea that Perry was involved in cycling until now.

[@cd0u50c9]

I'm coming to realise what a cool mixture of rock n' roll and cycling culture Cade Media has, in this episode further turbo boosted by the Pendulum guitarist that does cycling commentating - WTF level of cool!

[@ConnorFrench]

Amazing guest!

[@markbarnard7219]

Exceptional, respect to Francis and will be great ti see him back. But this was class. Jimmy = LEGEND and what an in site from Perry. Class geezer and is clearly a really decent bloke

[@dominicbritt]

I like the new Francis this week 😁

[@Shane_Finnegan]

Great podcast

[@cwmitch2]

Great craic today cheers👍

[@jonathanlong3356]

Are flat pedals on a road/gravel bike over or under rated???

[@buzzman4860]

Great guest. And its Visma/LAB

[@BlackTeaPhotography]

A good bunch of mates, like the HMCC/HMT Perry? ;)

[@yard2380]

How cool is this! :)

[@Cloxxki]

In a supermarket you can still get a good freshly baked cookie or pastry. Bike bizz is just exceedingly unprofessional. I've been a bike bizz sales rep. I saw the "good" shops and wouldn't let them near my bikes. Oddly, the only few mechanics and sales people I'd trust with my life were down the street from me, one a legend of the sport in my country for being a good engineer/mechanic.

[@sandervanelslander9964]

Their is a little mistake in your chapter titles, and it actually started me thinking: Wout van Aert at 2012 TdF... him against Wiggins...

[@faustovieira]

Regarding the bike computer, I would suggest having a phone mount and a pair of bluetooth speed and cadence sensors. Most people will take their phones with them anyway, and there are apps that work as a bike computer and are compatible with most bluetooth sensors.

[@ConnorFrench]

Drains your phone charge though

[@Epiqe]

But if something happens your expensive smartphone could be destroyed whereas bike computer is bulkier and than more durable to whistand bumps and crashes. (It is also bad for OIS in your smartphone “optical-image-stabilization” in a long term).

[@kevinfeeney5309]

I've used both. Just depends on what I'm doing. Running errands I just use a garmin "strap on" mount on my phone. For actual rides of 60min and longer I use a cheapo Coospo BC200 cycling computer. Love it's simplicity but I am considering iGPSPORT's 300 or 630 in a few years. As far as using a phone draining the battery? I always have those external battery packs.

[@dblissmn]

I don't think assembly even came into this. I think it arrived complete in a larger box than the typical cycle box, with the handlebars turned sideways to fit, and somebody picked it out of the box and turned the front wheel 180 degrees off kilter without touching the handlebars. Jimmi's straight out of the box theory is surely the correct one.

[@jonaspietsch161]

Wild Ones and Pedulum … Ladies and Gentlemen fasten your seatbelts!

[@kautzz]

absolute legends 🤘

[@jrother]

"Never ask for directions in Wales, Baldrick. You'll be washing phlegm out of your hair for a fortnight."

[@reggawardle4874]

very wise perry.. ac3.. cant play acoustic guitar without pain.. after bike crash..

[@joekawasaki]

With the Halfords bike display, I would assume the "bike guy" set up the display bike. They should have training before they kill someone.

[@migleco]

What a show!

[@Avioto]

I'm under the impression current pro's seem to have way more fun during training, so I bet the number of retired pro's who won't touch a bike will go down in the future.

[@jamesmckenzie3532]

Halfords, the Wal*Mart of the United Kingdom. You never know what you are going to get in quality.

[@Triathlon789]

BFF!

[@andrewmorgan9405]

Hi enjoy your podcast it’s great. Halfords are crap, I’ve seen bikes come out with the wheels the wrong way round absolutely unbelievable. Had my rant feel better now

[@mole9734]

Elis James has this on repeat

[@rfents]

Halford and Tredz are the same company?

[@JogieGlenMait16]

We might never need Cade back, eh?

[@Andy-co6pn]

Sounds like he has had his head turned by Jumbo Visma and the rider and his agent have engineered a situation to force a move. Clearly no intent to honor the contract he has signed. Typical b.s. tatic these days , sports agents do more harm than good these days

[@JorickTube]

It's even weirder. A guy who wasn;t his agent started shopping him around end of this summer for a million. Ineous and Trek were interested and Bora was interested in that sweet million as well. This also prompted Uijtdebroex to start thinking about his situation. He decided he wanted to move, but only to Jumbo. Jumbo doesn't want to pay that sweet million, bc Roglic wen the other way without a transfer fee (mind you, there is no transfer system in cycling, you pretty much do gentlemens agreements or whatever. This usually comes down to paying of the remainder of the contract, so if you make a grand a year and you have a year to go you pay a grand). The agent has now resolved his contract with Bora, although Bora disagrees and Jumbo just picked him up. The pain is really on the Bora side of things, they wanted a million, they can't have it. Probably shouldn't have mistreated him so badly.

[@virtualmartijn]

Also problematic is that cycling doesn’t have a set system for rider transfers. The “pay the remainder of your contract” is all gentlemen's agreement type stuff and in this case BORA doesn’t want to play ball.

[@KoreaRides]

Don't worry about your lack of Welsh, you can speak as much Welsh as the majority of Welsh people in Wales.

[@denverman6161963]

Francis who? Great job Jimmi!

[@wheelwizard8219]

Cain Uijdebroeks has wanted to leave Bora-hansgrohe after being attacked by his own team mate Alex Vlasov in the Vuelta for a higher place on the General Classification Then Primoz Roglic joined Bora-Hansgrohe

[@wheelwizard8219]

Thanks for this show. Halfords are still selling Boardman Bikes ( But not at all stores)

[@charlesrussell6183]

whatever "good one, team" is in Welsh

[@shimona500]

I've had the hatred/"it's starting to feel like a job" of cycling in cycling trips, where you've already done a 20 hour week but there's only so many days to go, and in the end it feels like you have to force yourself to ride. Can't imagine keeping this amount for years on end.

[@zypang1447]

Wiggins is the founder or Team Sky / Team GB doping program. That's all he is to me. Doing all those PEDS and constantly trying to avoid detection and that level of paranoia would definitely wear on someone.

[@megustasonia]

Apparently, Wiggins doesn't remember it took enhancement drugs as well for his Tour de France as well !

[@Superfly1503]

Any chance you guys could just do what you used to? These weekly talkfests are mindnumbingly dull.

[@larryt.atcycleitalia5786]

Now there's a guy I WISH would wear a stupid baseball hat! AGGGHHHHHH!!!!

[@WerdnaLiten]

For a supposed professional sport, pro (road) cycling is often rather amateur........

[@andyand100]

Halfords zero interest in their staff just another supermarket same as asda

[@jamesbud153]

First

[@TheWoogeroo]

Can’t help but wonder how much demand there is for Welsh language cycle racing coverage, and more importantly, who’s paying for it? Seems one of many rather poor value ways to spend British TV license fees.

[@Jimmidoesstuff]

Rhyfelwr bysellfwrdd nodweddiadol.