Bike vs. Round: Thoughts on Throne Shape

I play only on round thrones. I dislike the bike seat shape because it doesn't offer enough support for double bass playing. Here I explain a bit about why this is.

[@prateekyadav9811]

Highly Underrated channel.

[@erraticboss168]

Prateek Yadav I agree

[@ambrooks5]

I was trying to decide between a regular round seat or the bike seat. Very good explanation. Round seat it is!

[@rythmblood27]

Nice incite. I’m looking for my first ever throne. I’m looking at pros & cons…..and your input makes sense to me. You’ve helped direct my search .👍

[@jevannoble1]

Totally saved me from spending for a bicycle seat. I have a round pearl roadster chair which I don't have issues at all, in fact the most sturdy and effective one I have ever used. The bicycle shaped ones I thought can make me more effective in playing double bass. But your point is right. Playing double pedals is not like riding a bike at all! Thank you!

[@DethroneTheCorrupted]

Been playing drums for 13 years I'm 30 today. Using a biker shaped throne and for at least 3-4 years now and noticing I have back pain and less balance and less control. I get super tired in my legs just after 20 minutes which should be a warm up routine for me but my legs just give up after. I play a lot of double bass with speeds above 200 bpm. I noticed that only when I play slow 16th notes on tempos like 120-150 I struggle so much and I lose balance and control on my legs. My first thoughts were that I have a bad technique or that I'm not able to play anymore but upon looking to this video I hopefully found out what is causing my problem. THE BIKER/SADLE shaped drum throne. Just ordered a round shaped throne so hopefully this will help!

[@rockalliance8815]

This is exactly what’s happening to me at the moment. I’ve been playing drums for 20 plus years and thought something was wrong with me physically. I wish I saw this before spending over 300.00 on a bike seat throne. Im going back to a round throne.

[@mattnormandrums]

Thank you for making this video. A drummer friend brought this debate to my attention as someone who plays a bike seat thrown. I always feel like I am working so hard to balance playing double kick. I also am constantly moving my thrown forward and back trying to find that sweet spot to play comfortably. Looks like I am going to sell my throne and get a round seat!!

[@chumplestilskin8659]

Boy, am I glad I found this video! I am picking up drumming to try help with my Parkinson's symptoms by the rhythmic exercise. I am so out of shape that after seeing your video, I believe you saved me from a world of discomfort! Thank you!

[@stevem7163]

Switched to round and it immediately improved my comfort, speed, and endurance. Thanks.

[@francolamuerte]

Il have the same exact feelings. Im new drummer and for the past 6 months i use Gibraltar 9608MB Oversized Motorcycle Seat With Adjustable Backrest and i can not found my balance. It’s like someone pushed me in my back, even without de backrest. Now i swith with Gibraltar softly round Drum Throne and i am happy. I’m more balance on this throne!

[@Rockin_Ross]

I have both & I find the bicycle style gives me better posture. I can’t slouch on one of those and that makes my back happy. My round one is softer & just feels good. Great video.

[@blackwash]

I'm figuring this out lately too. Been using a bicycle style Ahead Spinal Glide for a couple years and I'm realizing that while it is super comfortable and the whole spine gap thing is DEFINITELY something I want, the shape is totally wrong for me. The main issue is that with a bicycle style throne your balance depends on your legs a lot more, so playing certain things can be kind of awkward because you can't take weight totally off your legs without feeling like you're gonna fall forward. Thankfully there are some flat, round thrones out there with the spine gap in the middle. :)

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

Nice. I think people that swear by the bike style really must rarely play hihat with their foot and never double kick. Because otherwise they’d notice the same thing you’re saying.

[@rockalliance8815]

I get constant cramping in the back of my legs. Eventually my leg has a paralyzed feeling after using this throne for a 1 hour practice session. I thought it something was wrong physically. It was very discouraging as I played drums for 20 plus years. I’m definitely going back to a round throne!!

[@erichausmann]

I've been using a Roc-n-Soc for years, and it's just like you said. It's super comfortable to sit on, but not so great for support and balance while drumming. Going back to round and never looking back.

[@The_Other_Ghost]

To a round rock n soc?

[@erichausmann]

@@The_Other_Ghost A round Pork Pie.

[@The_Other_Ghost]

@@erichausmann I was picturing you just buying a different top to keep the same base.

[@erichausmann]

@@The_Other_Ghost I could have done that, but my Rocnsoc was the old non-hydraulic style. And I found a good deal for the new Pork Pie, so I decided to give it a go. Very happy with it.

[@The_Other_Ghost]

@@erichausmann That's what matters, happiness.

[@BIGSNAKE16]

I used round thrones for 53 years. I have a Roc-N-Soc being delivered on Monday. Thought I'd try something new for a change. I never really cared what I sat on while playing. Hell I've sat on stacked milk crates, beer kegs, etc.. playing for hours at a time. The only thing I cared about was jamming.

[@zpottsy]

Pretty much the same for me. I've used a Tama heavy duty round throne for the past 37 years. I just want something a little more comfy for my ol' school hard rockin' ass. So I Ordered a Tama Heavy Duty Hydraulix Moto Cycle seat type seat, with a back rest to boot. Not because I need a back rest. I just feel the drummer is always king in a band, because without an ass kickin' drummer. There is no Ass Kickin' Band. Besides, I never know when that crazy ass bitch from NY is gonna show up at a gig, and plow through my drum kit to attack me again. LOL That's the only time I've fallen off my throne in 41 years.

[@theelement6255]

But are you playing fast double bass? That really changed everything

[@刘智雄-g2b]

Totally agree with you! I have the same feelings when i seat on the drum stool, but i found most of them there cushion is too soft...

[@zpottsy]

On a serious note. I have used a well padded Tama round throne for 37 years, and no problem until now. I now use a larger drum kit. 26" bass drum, and larger deeper tom's. That being said. I sit a little higher than I normally used to. I'm only 5'7", and I sit at around 24" off the ground. My 12" deep snare (low profile stand) sit's right at my waist level. I don't do double bass drumming, but I feel I could use a Bike style seat with a back rest so I can chill while I'm Rocking Out. That being said. I'm 50+ years of age, and still ride a mountain bike every day. Practically everywhere I go. So the bike drum throne is right at home for me. The back rest is just for prestige for being a brigadier badass drummer who keeps on ROCKIN' no matter what.

[@mrt5342]

Holy crap, my KZbin drum doppelganger!! Height, age, mountain biking, 26" kicks on a larger kit...!!🤘🏻🤘🏻😆

[@stixx6197]

I agree and use a roc n soc square throne. I get a lot of support when using double pedal but maybe a bit restrictive on my legs. I’m going to try a dw round throne with a 14” top for comparison. Thinking it may be the perfect balance.

[@awormasi]

Man, I’ve been using a Roc n Soc saddle shape cuz I thought they were the best. No wonder I have so much difficulty keeping balanced and falling forward.

[@jamisonstokdyk8599]

I understand the appeal of bike seat thrones. The top complaint I have is you need to sit exactly in the right spot, or it's uncomfortable and requires you to make an adjustment. That's not ideal if you're playing, especially if the seat spins freely when you try to adjust your position. Round seats are more forgiving of seating position, and easier to move around on if you need a slight adjustment. They also suit a greater range of body types.

[@Danfromoverthere]

Jamison Stokdyk I agree with you.

[@EarthtonesCymbals]

You added some critical points to the conversation. Cheers and happy drumming everyone! ♪♫♪

[@jettsom]

Both has their advantages. I found that saddles seat provides better support for my back and locks you in more in place. I like both.

[@azuljay912]

used to play on rounds as a beginner, still learning years later and cant figure out why I am burying the beater? tried to raise my throne legs angled down, then all my gear had to go up (looked foolish and not ergonomic) couldn't figure out why I played much better on my daughters small kit, was it her pedals? throne hight? low profile? so I mimic that and everything was fine BUT! I was still burying he beater and falling into the bass or hi-hat now I know why the darn bike / tractor seat I have.. so back to a thick round and I think I will have a comfortable kit :-) thanks for the tip

[@VertigoGTI]

Currently searching for a drum throne and I’ve been having a hard time with bicycle style seats. Constantly feel like I’m slipping off of them, especially when doing swivel double kick. I dunno... maybe I have a wide butt crack or something.

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

I can’t play worth a darn on a non-round throne. I just feel like I’m tipping all the time and using extra muscle to stay upright.

[@purpledc1]

actually IMHO the bicycle seat makes perfect sense. No resistance on your legs to impede movement. I understand your thinking. But sitting down at a kit for a bit and wonder "why is this a thing" and actually owning one and using it for an extended period of time are two completely different things. And it very well could mean the difference between getting it and not.

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

PurplEDC Reviews good theory but I have one at the studio where I teach and it hasn’t convinced me. I sit on it for like 10 hours every week and have for many months and I would never trade. More movement isn’t helpful because the majority of playing happens from the knee down, not at the hip. Being balanced and stable is still more important in my opinion. It really seems to help my students play more effectively too as I’ve had dozens of people make breakthroughs when they sit back farther or switch to a round seat. Maybe not for everyone ever, but the round can help some people.

[@purpledc1]

I think I saw another of your responses that discussed height and weight of the person. I am a bit heavier and have a spinal condition and I have a tama round right now and its killing me. Tractor seats seam to be the only thing that works for me. But I'm willing to admit I may be in the minority.

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

PurplEDC Reviews yeah that might make a difference because I’m only like 170lbs and most of my students have been smaller people or kids. If you have some spinal issue or you are larger maybe there is some reason that the other shape works better. I think the round is better for playing but if you have to prioritize your spine, then that’s pretty important.

[@purpledc1]

Yeah the scientific classification for my weight is lardius assius.

[@jackdimmock]

This is very interesting, I've only experienced small round thrones so my logic was the bike seats would be bigger. I never thought about the cut out concept of a larger circle to make the bike seat. Eye opening!

[@DanielS10291]

Id also say playing round is probably better if gigging as wont most venues have round?

[@woutervanwijk4369]

The fact that you have to use your core to sit straight is actually beneficial. Sitting on the back of your seat lets you relax those muscles which results in more stress on the lower back. I think it's a bad advise.

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

I'm not advocating for not using core muscles. This is in addition to a solid core. I teach my students that if they cannot sit on the throne and lift both legs off the ground without wobbling or leaning back, they are not prepared to play double bass. Poor balance and core strength is one of the leading causes of double bass ineptitude. Not that my posture is perfect either, but your photo next to this post (I assume it is of you) looks pretty hunched over... just saying.

[@woutervanwijk4369]

Ryan Alexander Bloom My posture isn't perfect also, but this pic is in the middle of a gig and just a captured moment. Besides, being 6.4ft isn't helping. However having to balance your upper body means you have a so called "active posture", meaning that you include smaller muscles in your back instead of your spine to stay balanced. That is why my teacher taught me to sit on the front of my throne, checking that I sit on the 2 bones by putting my hands under my butt. I admit that that is more than 24 years ago but then again, having a problematic lower back myself, I never experienced pain from playing drums. Actually more from carrying them around...lol Edit: I changed my profile picture to show the difference. It was taken at the same gig. 😉

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

wouter van wijk yeah no I mean my posture isn’t perfect either at 6’1” so I know what you mean. The problem with sitting forward on a throne is that you put unnecessary weight on your feet. If you’re using your feet for balance or weight support, regardless of throne shape, you can’t also be using them for pedal playing at a high level. Whether that be double bass or constant hihat work or what ever other pedal you want. So it’s quite a different thing from posture, it’s balance and weight distribution. Ideally you do both. Sitting in the front of the throne is a way to trick you into sitting up straighter but it’s ultimately also a hindrance.

[@woutervanwijk4369]

Ryan Alexander Bloom Well if you're really sitting on those bones you're not leaning forward actually. I do play double bass (although I am not a speed monster) with heels off the ground. I guess it's also a preference thing. In my case I notice that when I sit on the back of the throne, my pelvis tends to tilt backwards, which results in the corner between legs and body isn't a corner anymore but a curve.

[@paulysci925]

Agree all the support and balance comes from the sit bone and good posture. Literally every thing else creates a problem at some point later. Its a matter of biomechanics at work. I have a road bike and a bunch of seats where if it fits my sit bone it works best and the cushion doesnt matter and it's very similar for me. I can't play anything cushy or unstable for prolonged periods. Its like running in a big sloppy shoe.

[@rasavastakaite4752]

thnx for sharing!

[@cj_m2477]

I’ve been using a bicycle type throne for at least 25 years and play two bass drums. This makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

CJ Myra well that’s why it’s called thoughts on throne shape. It’s not a rule just an observation from me and my students. Many, many people agree with me but obviously there are counter examples like you. You’re in the minority from what I can tell but there are others. Maybe it has to do with height or weight or leg length to torso ratio or something else... not sure exactly.

[@CameronBartholomew]

The thing is, most of the motorcycle thrones are actually a lot bigger than the round thrones, and have more area to support your weight overall. I have a Tama Glide Rider and that thing is huge. I find the advantage is having all the support in the center groin area that extends out a lot farther than a round throne. The cutaways actually give you more freedom of movement for the thighs and legs.

[@Merrillizer]

@@CameronBartholomew Absolutely. The impression I get from this vid is "heavy human opinion". It's all good, tho. Drum on...

[@DrGray_Drummer]

I recently had a spinal fusion. The bike seat is no good IF you have a bad back. What he's say does make sense. If your back is good, a bicycle throne is fine. I've used the Roc N Soc a good portion of my time playing. It hasn't done my back any favors. About to make a change to the Charmicheal. I'll let y'all know how it works

[@sticksbass]

@@DrGray_Drummer well, how do you like the carmichael? im looking at the motion pro drum thrones or possibly just the spinal glide thrones.

[@ronniek7748]

Very well explained!

[@reezlaw]

I own both styles and I agree with you

[@sticksbass]

i believe thrones should be high enough so your thighs are always sloped down toward the knees at least slightly for back health if nothing else and it bothers me having anything impinging my circulation that a round throne might cause in a higher position.

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

Sticksbass I agree with you about the height. I’ve never noticed my circulation being impinged while playing but I do enjoy the stability that a round throne provides. I can play more complicated parts and use my pedals much more easily from a stable base. If your circulation is a problem then by all means get a throne that alleviates that.

[@jonathanbormann5077]

I bought in to the marketing and bought a motorcycle style throne. I've tried 2 and realized its a horrible decision, for me at least. Going back to a round seat.

[@conformityantidote7751]

Best explanation of thrones I have heard

[@HazeAnderson]

I just picked up a Tama 1st chair luxury throne and picked round over bike shaped simply because the round felt more stable to me. I felt justified spending the extra $$ for this tool because #1 spine #2 I snagged a entry level Simmons clearance electronic drum kit for FIFTY BUCKS! (Boom, instant midi controller for my drum machines.)

[@random11stuff]

The drum throne in the college where I rehearse has been replaced with a fairly lightweight keyboard bench recently. Rectangular seat and a small circular bass. Previous to this most drum thrones in that room were either broken or just impossible to adjust. I'm really enjoying the keyboard bench and am considering buying one for myself to replace my own cheap drum throne in the next few months. Just wondering if you've ever come across this or if you have any thoughts one way or the other. Just came across the channel and I'm finding it very useful. In the last few months I've been gigging more and more with cover bands around my city. Recently I've been experiencing some pain while playing (in my left wrist... very worrying and the first time in 10 years of playing i've felt anything) so your videos on ergonomics and set up have given me some real food for thought. I'm sure it will help me when casting a critical eye on my set up and playing in the future.

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

Eoin Hayes I've never played drums from a keyboard bench. If it is adjustable and sturdy I guess it could work. Typically, I bring my own throne to rehearsals because I don't like dealing with the exact issues you had with the thrones in your area.

[@PaulOgie]

I have a bicycle seat throne and HATE it. Not only is there no support there is a lip on the back that pushes you forward. Totally dumb idea. Also, with a round throne I can just hop on. I bike style I has a front and back I have to physically find each time. Dumb.

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

I agree

[@mik_urrutia]

Would you tell me which Gibraltar round seat model you are trying on this video?? I´m looking for a soft model and your seat look like very soft. thank you!

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

Mikel Urrutia I think it’s this one www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/gibraltar-softy-drum-throne/490797000000000?cntry=us&source=3WWMWXGP&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpeaq94TM3QIVDp1-Ch3_8A5zEAQYDSABEgIn-vD_BwE&kwid=productads-adid%5E221957295803-device%5Em-plaid%5E323968338223-sku%5E490797000000000@ADL4MF-adType%5EPLA I’ve had it for like 10 years, but this one looks like it.

[@brianrandolph8220]

what size is the throne in the video is it 15" round 13" or 14?

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

I think it's 14"

[@Ryan-qn1wr]

Idk, I notice no difference whatsoever between bicycle and round. I just got a pneumatic bicycle seat one because I got tired of sinking drum thrones, and I have to adjust to a different height almost every time I play.

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

Pneumatic bicycle would be my absolute worst nightmare. If offered an endorsement deal with RocnSoc or whatever but they said I had to use a pneumatic bicycle throne I’d turn them down. No thanks. Not even for free.

[@Ryan-qn1wr]

@@RyanAlexanderBloom Come to think of it, I think mines hydraulic, not pneumatic. I wouldnt care either way anyways.

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

Not much better in my opinion. I think I have adjusted my throne height maybe twice in the past like 12 years. I have to loosen 3 different screws to do it, but it’s so infrequent it’s not a problem.

[@TC-ps9sd]

Your rationale for using a round seat makes good sense.

[@EarthtonesCymbals]

Playing drums is in no way like riding a bicycle. Class dismissed.

[@albind8622]

Thanks!

[@zosterinski]

You do realise some people actually want to stay more leaned over the kit in order to dig into the pedal(s)

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

They may want that, but it’s unnecessary and bad for them.

[@davidlanggle-martin955]

Thank you for your thoughtful explanations. Did you mention which make/model you're using? Just curious.

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

David Langgle-Martin I play on Gibraltar right now. I don't know what model it is. They aren't paying me to rep them, nobody is, so I'm not all that keen on recommending anything specific. I got this throne in 2008 I think. Not even sure they make this one exactly anymore. I walked into my local drum shop and asked them to pull out a few of their sturdiest thrones... this was the most solid feeling of the lot.

[@davidlanggle-martin955]

Ryan Alexander Bloom Great, thanks. I've been looking to upgrade to a round seat from my c. 2002 Gibraltar bicycle seat. Many of the DW options actually feel too hard, so I'm looking at Pork Pie, Roc n Soc, or Gibraltar.

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

I really recommend going and sitting on them at a physical store. even if you end up ordering online in the end, you have to know that it feels right. I just didn't want any excess wobbling, so I ended up with gibraltar because from in-person testing, it seemed like the best product.

[@davidlanggle-martin955]

Ryan Alexander Bloom That's good advice. Thank you!

[@francolamuerte]

Thomas Lang himself go with you Ryan Alexander Bloom on the subject of the Motocycle or Bicycle type throne. At 7min49 of thios video he said litteraly : " You need the right throne, don't get one of this motocycle throne, so those bicycle throne seat shape throne have a cutout exactly where you need it right here ( legs ), these round throne have support this... " kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2fZeo2FbZqZeKs

[@chinesepinata]

thanks dude :)

[@CultureShockGaming]

Round Throne = Ankle shin and calve muscles motion / Bike Throne = Flat foot Hip Flexors motion that's about it, if you want to play like Derek roddy (hip flexors) bike throne leaves more area for your upper legs to go, wanna play like Lombardo ? Round throne is the thing to go as it involves way less work on your core, and lets your ankles play ..

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

I do not disagree with that, in principle. But quite honestly there are 2 things I'll say to slightly adjust your point 1) you should never pick a style of playing and throw out another. You should play from the ankle sometimes, the hip sometimes, and both sometimes. It all depends on the speed and dynamic level you are going for at that moment. 2) I play lots of full leg motion strokes, from the hip flexor, and a round throne has never caused me to suffer during that. I also play lots of ankle strokes and a bike throne has caused me to work much harder to achieve the correct position. So, for me the round is better overall because I don't pigeonhole myself into any given technique. If you only ever played full leg hip flexor type strokes, perhaps a bike throne would be ideal...

[@CultureShockGaming]

@@RyanAlexanderBloom I just can't use my calves for the down motion, shin for some reasons, i'am not too fast, but it certainly help me follow the pedal board while playing, naturally i never play heel up, or actually it sets me too much off balance, (i tried during a year to use more calve through endurance and one foot blast beat, and sure it goes faster but it left me with an elongation on the right calve) so it's Always flat foot even at the slowest tempos, it's harder for me to go faster, even more on round seats, but at least i can work more on my hip flexors and prevents me from élongations, plantar fascitis that i both experienced

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

@@CultureShockGaming I'm not sure how plantar fasciitis is related, but I know its painful and if it inhibits your drumming thats bad. So, of course, do what you need to save yourself from that issue. I don't really understand what you mean by hip flexors when you also say you never play heel up. If your heel is down, nothing above the knee should matter. Heel down is the most isolated technique. You use your calf/shin and ankle and nothing else. So, I guess maybe our terminology is at odds and we aren't talking about the same things.Sorry for not understanding you correctly.

[@CultureShockGaming]

@@RyanAlexanderBloom What i mean by "heel up" is playing with my calves being constantly "contracted" (whole leg motion, center of pressure on the tip/ball of my foot, where you use both hips and calves mainly for basic rock drumming)!, i just never use that, i only use flat foot, which involes almost no use of the calves and shin muscles (only hip flexors).. Sorry if it sounds vague, but i just don't consider the flat foot to be a heel up motion, as the foot is basically flat.. that's what i am saying :)

[@CultureShockGaming]

@@RyanAlexanderBloom By the way sorry again, my English might not be the most accurate as i am french*

[@IVAN-fh7he]

what's your take on round / bike with back rests?

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

I don't think a back rest would hurt anything. Never used one, but it may even help. Leaning back is a big no-no when playing double kick, so if it stops that, it's worth something already.

[@visionlandmusic]

You play your drum throne?

[@theelement6255]

Just realizing I have to sell my roc n soc🤦🏿‍♂️The vid confirms (and practice” confirms it. I have to have my ass hanging off the back of seat to use my ankles

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

I always felt that way.

[@awormasi]

Same for me

[@ozzmarkk]

If you are putting any sort of weight on your thigh, you're simply doing it wrong.

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

ozzmark You’re gonna have to explain your reasoning there, as I clearly disagree with that and I’ve never heard anyone assert that opinion before. So, if you’ve got a good rationale with physics and anatomy as to why that would be the case, I am very interested in it. The closest I’ve ever heard is another commenter who said he was of a huge stature and heavy build and his nerves got impinged by a round throne or something, but he wasn’t saying what you’re saying... I’m not going to say I’ll believe you straight out, but I really do want to hear why you think that.

[@morgunstyles7253]

Have tractor seat. It stays home. Pain to pack it. Use a round throne on the job.

[@davidmcaninch4714]

I play a round throne too.

[@eamonjosephus]

good to know

[@drew-shourd]

...and you have a this skinny ass, hahaha....big boys (200+lbs) like me, need a mans seat, players with lower back issues, like me, need the cut away seat, less pressure for their sciatica problems. There are plenty of double bass players that use cut away thrones, I think the issue there is the style of playing, either 'heal to toe' or 'heal up', plus leg length, etc. I used round thrones for decades until my needs changed, you might as well. KEEP ROCKIN' BRO!!

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

Yeah I mean I directly say in here these are just my thoughts. Tons of people play the bike seats, but I can't

[@noah49]

what drum throne is that? tama?

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

Gibraltar c.2008

[@tinkertanner165]

Its not bicycle style, its motorcycle style seat and you dont pedal on a motorcycle.

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

Tinker Tanner motorcycles were originally bicycles with motors. The bike came first then it was translated into a bigger more specialized contraption. Regardless, the point of the shape is the same, roughly, to allow the legs to extend down below the seat and straddle around a vehicle that continues forward in between. Drummers need to extend forward before the knee bends. You sit at drums like you sit in a chair, you don’t straddle them to ride. That would be weird.

[@mariosotaofficial]

Mmmm is like to say that mangos are better than strawberries. I have both for different purposes. And don't forget that you can use the other side of a bicycle throne and use it as a rounded one!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 ALWAYS BE CREATIVE AND FOLLOW YOUR OWN NEEDS.

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

I have used the back side of a bike shaped throne before. Usually not that comfy because it wasn’t intended for that direction. I’m not saying you can’t use the bike thrones but you’ll always be slightly less stable. You’ll trade comfort for it. If that’s a trade you’re ok with then that’s fine.

[@jigenstrument415]

We're fighting. so don't need comfortability

[@kognito6433]

I like the video but put your mic like a few feet away from your face like I can hear every bit of saliva and your tounge in your mouth and it pisses me off