Can A £8999 Chinese Adventure Bike Survive A Day With Chris | VOGE DS900X

[@PDCRed]

Best thing about Chris's reviews? You just know you can trust every word he says. Cheers mate 👍

[@neilhutton1528]

Excellent review with frank and proper feedback. I remember when Hyundai and Skoda were cheap budget cars. not anymore. I welcome the competition into this, as you say, expensive market.

[@markusseidel1857]

Sir, my compliments for this great and honest review.

[@daddystu7046]

Thanks for the review - gives a different perspective to the regular on road/walkaround reviews. Very useful for prospective buyers.

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Cheers, we try to push them a bit.

[@mikemills5144]

As an average (at best) off road rider it was an absolute pleasure watching you whip that bike around.

[@Marc99999]

Thanks Chris and Bike World for giving us for free all we need to know about bikes with a fun factor few can reach.

[@georgkorte]

Hey Chris, In September I have bought one. The bike has been only on the road (4000km) so far. We have been out for trip for a few days in germanies landscape wich was nice and comfortable. Thanks for this impresive test. in this video i have seen that the Voge is able to go into soft off road trips. This is allready planed for 2025 in Italy. Like "PDCRed" I trust in every word you said 😉. Now the bike has done the job without any problems but with a superb suport of my dealer. All in all - your experince, the service of tne dealer and the quality of the bike - that´s the fun factor of riding. Thanks for your test und best Regards, georg

[@fozzy1717]

Bike world are the go too for bike reviews

[@grantleyteakle634]

Great looking bike, good performer, terrific value, just need em in Australia.

[@JonMurray]

Fair play for having no damage after that sesh hahah! Like you say, see how it goes long term but you gave it a good stress test where it’s not designed to go and it handled itself well!

[@rodgeskell4218]

Everything still fully intact Jon, just a small dent in one of the cats in the down pipe. Can't complain about that after 6 hours grief on Enduro tracks! It's a bit dirty though...

[@keyboarddancers7751]

Great to see more and more exceptionally keenly priced motorcycles on the market in recent times. *That Guy on an Africa Twin* (CRF1000L) proves that if you really take the trouble to develop your riding skills over a long period, you can wrestle all sorts of machinery through some ridiculously extreme terrain. The secondhand market is your friend.

[@RuggeroCorsaletti]

I have a 525 dsx and i've done 5k kilometers in about 3 months, i can say the bike never had any issue not even the smallest... it's a great bike and i really love it.

[@dreamcrusher112]

5k km is nothing, no bike should have any issues in that time. glad you like your bike. my yam has had no issues in 60k km.

[@andatealamierdaya]

i have the 650 dsx with the 30 years old gs onecilinder engine. 15k kms and i just love it! 0 problems so far

[@donkeizluv]

Loncin makes BMW bikes no one bats an eye, CFmoto makes KTM bikes everyone loses their minds lol

[@abstractspaces8186]

People love to rag on KTM at every opportunity for some reason. If I'm being generous, maybe it's because they think KTM is/was special and is losing that as it becomes this massive corporate blob.

[@Surpriseify]

@@abstractspaces8186 Its the fact they are producing bikes with ATROCIOUS reliability, in this day and age thats just not good enough.

[@Surpriseify]

I'v got a riding circle of around 10 fokes, and i swear the 4 KTM's are ALWAYS in disrepair. Meanwhile my mate with a VFR basically has decided that he wont EVER maintain it, and it just does not give a flat fk about it, fires up perfectly everytime.

[@Lakewoody]

Loncin only builds the engine in conformity of the BMW specs, the rest of the bike is assembled in Berlin.

[@bazitube390]

Because ktm is about as reliable as a meth head prostitute.

[@UrbanoModa]

good honest video, nice price bet it does well. deserves a push against its competitors for the price value for sure

[@tonyjourneyman1944]

All these new bikes on the horizon, cf moto, royal Enfield, voge, kove, Benelli, moto morini and no doubt more. Interesting times.

[@EndlessRoadsNL]

a few off those are brands that go way back in time, royal enfield benelli and moto morini are around for decades

[@tonyjourneyman1944]

@@EndlessRoadsNL Yes, for sure, I think they're all reincarnations of their former selves.

[@luddite6239]

KYB suspension and Brembo (rather than JJuan or ByBre) suggest they're serious about projecting a quality image.

[@rodgeskell4218]

Fit & Finish is Superb. Standard spec is unbelievable and includes 3 part metal luggage & frames - which Chris asked to have removed. If you order an F900GS to the same spec it's almost 20k! Because Everything is an optional extra on the Bee-em - heated seat, heated grips, quick shifter, sat nav, dash cam, hand guards, bash plate, engine guards, centre stand, adjustable screen and luggage. All standard on the Voge...

[@jakaberdajs4378]

Youre shure right, BUT id rather have a mid tier ByBre than a cheap Brembo set up. That is literally the only problem i have with this bike after a week long test ride.

[@urbanstrencan]

Chinese are coming, looks like quite complete bike just how after service will be 🤔 Chris another great video 🤟🤟💪😍

[@daddystu7046]

Service intervals seem decent with 6000 mile oil changes which is what I do with my Yammy.

[@chrishart8548]

Previously Japanese bikes were very affordable now the price has almost doubled if not tripled. The Chinese can come in and take the market. I remember buying brand new bikes for £3k now mid sized bikes are easily £11k it's over £5k now for a 125cc

[@markwalding8205]

Be interesting to see how these things work out reliability wise. My 2016 Tiger 1200 cost me 8k two years ago. Getting a brand new bike for not much more seems like a bargain.

[@johnsteel4719]

As with all the reviews, not a bad word other than the risk of longevity. You can pretty much tell when I bike is cheap so given the quality of the parts and the engine is already proven, if I was in the market for a mid sized adventure bike and I wanted to buy new the I’d definitely look at one of these.

[@scottastell9415]

Interesting test. Hope Voge comes to Australia. CF Moto is here and making inroads on the other brands.

[@chrishart8548]

China always win it took them a wile to get there.

[@ricardoascensaotheoriginal]

Just enter the Dakar and win, Voge will get the respect and the sales...

[@nickrider5220]

There has to be affordable bikes for the fresh blood coming through. There's certainly several Chinese manufacturers that have good quality control and offer great value - it might save motorcycles (along with Enfield and bsa).

[@michaelb.42112]

It feels like the 1970s all over again. I love it....

[@Aeysir]

Interesting point, this is only the third '74 plate I've seen so far. A Bentley in Ipswich, a Ducati on the Norfolk coast yesterday, this Voge on a youtube video. 3 weeks, couple of thousand miles, only three plates. '24 plate was the same earlier this year. Things have become too expensive, people are not buying the shiny new things as much as they were and when they are they are picking up cheap. £9k for the Voge or £12.5k for the (poverty spec) F900 (£17k for a like for like spec)? For middle weight, middle aged, bald me, that extra £8k in my pocket is doing me a lot more favours than a roundel on the side.

[@th.blacksheep]

rear turn signals checker here 😁🤣

[@sydhoyle35]

What tyres did you put on the bike?

[@zzzap4778]

Is there a list of places like this? Enduro World looks good but it's 4 hours from me, are there other spots in the UK like this?

[@heint8169]

Amazing skills!

[@dreamcrusher112]

Voge is a subsidiary of Loncin so it is their engine.

[@rideroll9609]

Could you make a video about Kove 800X Pro? I am going to buy it next year and want to hear your opinion on it. Thank you a lot love your videos Chris.

[@fozzy1717]

And the kove 450 I can lend him one

[@watb8689]

kove 800x is just another ktm 790 engine, so it is just lighter than the cfmoto version and more agile

[@sagarthapa3765]

Another owner from another videos said that this particular bike is the most selling bike after scooters in Spain, we need our Spanish friends to confirm this and their trust in these bikes.

[@PaulCornish]

So would you take on the Strata Florida on this machine?

[@paulmartin5763]

Hi both. For me it's the entire purchase and dealer involvement that creates trust. I've recently tried to buy a bmw twice at my local dealer for my partner and totally blanked and ignored, i even spoke to the manager and never heard back ! Previously we bought a Zontes 125 and the entire experience was loads better. I ride Vstrom 1050, it's my 4th and due for change next year. I have no issue looking at these 900 voge. Watching with interest.

[@Sirsethtaggart3505]

Nice one mate.

[@TheOriginalCoda]

I can't stand adventure bikes, but I'll watch all of Chris' videos either way.

[@rodgeskell4218]

@@TheOriginalCoda I wasn't a fan of adventure bikes until I rode some and now I know why they're so popular. 1 word...COMFORT. They cope with crap roads, any roads, sometimes no roads ! They're just a superb all rounder you can ride All day at a more than reasonable pace and for most people, most of the time - that works. They're fast enough to be entertaining but still easy to ride and without being boring or bland.

[@TheOriginalCoda]

@@rodgeskell4218 I can understand that, especially the crap roads bit. I relegate my sports bike to the track, and for the road I bought a scrambler, pot-holes be damned.

[@chrishart8548]

​@rodgeskell4218 I never liked sports bikes. Didn't like cruisers . I liked Duel sports but the smaller less powerfully engines with a lot of vibration and poor weather protection was there downfall. I'm really happy with a 800cc twin adventure bike. The weight doesn't bother me at all.

[@Tadamagicsky]

How does it compare to tiger 850 sport ?

[@davidosman4336]

Will the Euro 5+ Version wieder or is it a benefit?

[@GeneticworlD]

I think the quality and durability of the bike should be good, as the company trying to compete with other major brands and get up high in the market, they would fail if the product is no good. I'm sure VOGE won't sell their bikes this cheap for very long time, it's only for now, just to get consumers attention.

[@_Makanko_]

it's but at your own risk for longevity? I suppose it's good value for the kit, let's hope they buyer get to enjoy the bikes long enough. I'll stick to second hand bikes (with known qualities and issues) for now Cheers Chris

[@musguelha14]

The problem with Chris is that he makes all bikes look way too good with his skill. Are we ever going to get a similar video for the CF 450MT?

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

@@musguelha14 coming soon!

[@musguelha14]

@@BikeWorldTVshow awesome!

[@ghost500e]

Ok, so same Engine as in the bmw 900, Brembo brakes, Kayaba suspension. Quality should be 100% ok to say the least... Only question here is the quality of the tank, fairings, and frame. Otherwise it seems legit asf... More bang for the $ than anything on the market...

[@jonhaxe3738]

all tech worked after that beatting?

[@hoangchauhuy5388]

Yessss Chris abuse bike series🎉🎉🎉

[@quigonjay9]

Voge Uk website is a little light on detail, no model line up or anything

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

@@quigonjay9 try motogb

[@luciano76464]

Ciao ,che gomme stai usando in questo video? Grazie.

[@siraff4461]

The big problem for me is that "you have to take the punt" line. Thats great if you stand to lose a few quid or something but if something important goes wrong on a bike the results tend to range from ouch to being boxed up. Not saying it will but once you're into things that can get you into trouble speeds in a few seconds its just not worth the risk to me. I'll let some other muppet with less self worth see how it goes to save a few quid - that they probably won't actually save thanks to resale/etc.

[@briangc1972]

Saving $5k or $10k is "just a few quid"?

[@siraff4461]

@@briangc1972 Thats not what you're saving. Total cost of ownership is the number you're looking fo unless you're a simpleton who can't count and therefore thinks the list price is the only cost involved.

[@briangc1972]

@@siraff4461 Obviously you are too ignorant to have a decent discussion. You choose to insult someone you do not know.

[@ghost500e]

BMW 900 engine, Brembo brakes, Kayaba suspension, whats the problem mister??

[@siraff4461]

@@ghost500e You're asking that on a comment which specifically points it out. Do you not do well with reading?

[@widge.103]

What happened to the most important thing about a bike......does it wheelie 😉

[@anthonydonnelly8419]

I think depreciation will be the issue compared to the 'mainstream' brands. But these and others from China do seem to be making a persuasive argument for themselves right now. It's a little like when the Japanese bikes first started to be taken seriously in the 1970's

[@briangc1972]

In the USA, any new motorcycle will depreciate 40% or more in the first year if you actually ride it. Lose 40% on $30k or lose 40% on $9k, that is the question. You can buy 2 or 3 of these for the price of a Multistrada or BMW. That is another consideration. You can actually buy a back up bike. Ride one while the other is getting service.

[@Greggspies]

TBF they all depreciate when it's get rid time even BMW

[@briangc1972]

@@Greggspies 60% depreciation on $9k is better than 50% depreciation on $20k. Put it in perspective.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

So far on their dealer network map, it's just Belgium and the Netherlands.

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

@@exothermal.sprocket They have dealers here in the UK.

[@dreamcrusher112]

there are 20 in the uk? I have 3 in 40 miles, more than for my BMW!

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@dreamcrusher112 Guess their website isn't exactly being maintained well.

[@99dca]

Did you sign a contract with this company to review this bike?

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Why would we sign a contract?

[@thodoris3790]

not even the 1% of the owners of this bike will ever do this.

[@bytesandbikes]

Looks like what the old Transalp was

[@daddystu7046]

Similar list price to a lightly used new model transalp. That'd be an interesting comparison. 150cc difference but similar HP. Transalp is lighter too.

[@David-m7f3g]

The gearbox and qs seems to be Bad here. Thats one of the Most important. Drive the 450mt, the gearbox is smooth as fuck

[@Yoshij250GS]

Chinese Adventure Bike --- "I have not broken a single thing at a whole day of abuse!?**" :D

[@ghost500e]

Chris riding one day is as much toture than you can put it through in 10 years. Just saying.

[@Yoshij250GS]

@@ghost500e doubt your words^^ hahaha probably talking of your self. You straight ahead slow street riding gamer^^: That Chris, full of skill, seriously, joyfully did enduroride this voge 900 for a day and not breake a single thing, counts a huge lot. The majority of all adventureriders, will never use a bike to the extend Chris just tested this voge here. As you, I and the majority of viewers konw! Voge DS900X is a good bike of its kind. In the 70th Japanese bikes caught up and could be offerd to a price, european manufacturers could barely compete. Now same game, nex round with bikes from China.

[@adriantompson]

mite do a day but what would it be like in 12 months, £9.000 is not cheap.

[@the.communist]

£9000 budget?

[@mmax27]

The catch is the inferior engine control software, driving modes and lack of IMU compared to the BMW. Suspension better compared to F850GS, worse compared to F900Gs.

[@MrHamishJohnKilpatrick]

Bike looks great. Just shame the chinese manufacturers dont market research their names.‘Voge’ ‘oh yeah I got a voge’ ‘oh my mate has a voge’ doesn’t sound great 😂

[@blackiesmisadventures3413]

It’s a Chinese 🇨🇳 BMW look a like 🤷🏻 only thing I would buy Chinese is a takeaway

[@protectorh9167]

Correction cruise control without radar Thanks for this test, I hope it will change some prices in the market, is a chinese bike a real price in the competive market hé half commies is not fare.

[@tsunami951]

A ZAR R200 000 Chinese bike is not considered a "budget" bike

[@chrishart8548]

Even if it is every bit as good as a F900GS it would still be cheaper to make it in china. Are they even making a loss just to destroy the competition. With bikes and cars from china maybe this is how they lead the world.

[@dentman67]

Funny, you rode that bike harder than most guys I see on off road KTM bikes weigh 220 lbs. Ha

[@vfarias]

What a bargain! 😂 Let's see how much they last looool

[@inspectorclouseau3880]

I suspect it's from China

[@rodgeskell4218]

@@inspectorclouseau3880 Your suspicions are indeed correct. Voge are a subsidiary of Loncin, one of Chinas most respected and established motorcycle manufacturers who produce 2.5 million motorcycles per year and 3 million engines...for BMW, Honda and Mv. Loncin have exclusively produced all BMW's F series of parallel twin engines and their working partnership is almost 20 years old.

[@ghost500e]

Like ktm, bmw F900, volvo, cadillac... Have you been sleeping under a rock or what, apple products, asus graohic cards ala 2500$ also made in China. You must be very IQ challenged for making such a statement.

[@abstractspaces8186]

They could have hired a designer to make it look like more than a knock off GS.

[@rodgeskell4218]

Well seeing as it's uncannily similar to the F900GS I think it might've been intentional perhaps? Park them next to one another and you'll see how similar they are...

[@HOT_V8]

대한민국에선 팔 수 없는 제조사 명이다...

[@jamesrennie1227]

Unfortunately depreciation will be massive over a BMW.

[@Terraceview]

Resale value will shock you though.

[@rodgeskell4218]

@@Terraceview Why? It's Only £9 grand Brand new & fully loaded inc 3 part metal luggage - the equivalent F900GS with the same optional extras weighs in at just under £20 grand. I think I'm pretty confident which one will suffer more depreciation...

[@Terraceview]

@@rodgeskell4218 OK that's a huge difference, but do we know anything about reliability?

[@miketiller8430]

If it’s made in china. It will last a year then fall apart

[@ghost500e]

Like your apple phone, asus graphic card, and bmw, ktm, bikes mostly made in china along with volvo and cadillac cars. You are febalminded to say the least. Bmw engine, Brembo brakes, Kayaba suspension. What??? Are you worried about the tank or fairings???????

[@pitmarkovic4545]

Why someone tell that is a cheap price maybe you're understand nothing!!!!!I hate that talking Shit from roboting People

[@BIGGIEsmalls13]

All 'foreign' bikes (except Ducati's) should be exiled to Rowanda. STOP THE BIKES from stealing our jobs, etc etc!