Bill C-21 Would Destroy Airsoft In Canada - A Lawyer Explains

[@RunkleOfTheBailey]

When I think "What group in Canada should we be most cracking down on?" Children and people playing sports is not the group that I immediately think of. But then, I'm not in politics.

[@debnn4854]

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[@Mex420Mex]

Any thoughts on the idea that the changes are also intended to dissuade "militia groups" from using airsoft guns to train/drill with?

[@RunkleOfTheBailey]

@@Mex420Mex I don't think so, TBH. The police have had airsoft on their radar for awhile, because they run into the occasional shithead using a pellet gun or whatever, and then don't know how to actually use the existing law to charge them.

[@V_for_Vovin]

@@Mex420Mex Are they going to ban everyone from talking? Or breathing? Because militia groups need to do those things too in order to function. Seems like a good way to inspire the formation of militias is to ban everything we do in life, but that's just my opinion.

[@jaychapman6448]

@@V_for_Vovin Enjoy those pointy sticks while we're still allowed to have them!

[@jimmyzhao9748]

I'm not an AirSofter, however I support anyone who enjoys that sport.

[@fastestdino2]

I just wanted to get started once we were out of the pandemic. But no, what I enjoy has to get swept up in the same optics as the irresponsible OIC. Thanks for your support.

[@ALT-vv9jy]

@@fastestdino2 same

[@campsitez2355]

gun regulations by shrinking subsets that only go in one direction to the lesser is a maliciously abusive tactic that is cruel and unusual. There is no reason to ban airsoft. There is no reason to ban 32 caliber in a handgun. There is no reason to ban an AK47 but not an SKS. The laws applied to firearms have been arbitrary at best with a complete lack of backing of reason unless the reason has already been decided to remove them from society... which begs the question when will they ever reveal that they have made that decision in secret against the will of the people? Right now there is nothing you can do about the de-normalization of firearms ownership. The Liberals own the media, the education system, etc. "systemic liberalism" basically is why you can try to fight this for like a decade but one decade later your sport will be as dead as 3 gun. Unless someone points out the abusive nature of the government's regulations as being unconstitutional and unreasonable this will happen and because they own the education system and therefore the highest courts are filled with liberals.... well there's only 1 think left to say > you lose.

[@Adonis_V]

@@fastestdino2 same

[@k0brakai]

I'm an immigrant in Canada and have been living here for 3 years. I have played Airsoft in Europe but when I moved, I did not know anybody. Playing Airsoft helped me in making some friends and being part of something. I have no interest in real actual firearms. I just like to go out and play on sundays, instead of sitting in front of a TV.... this Bill makes no sense at all for Airsoft or Paintball.

[@ramennoodles1843]

Same here, I play paintball in the summer on weekends! I hope they don't ban rental guns like the Tippmann 98 Custom as the 98 doesn't look anything like a firearm!

[@rangerrick8220]

This bill makes no sense at all. Period.

[@kenf5656]

@@ramennoodles1843 You sure about that? It looks very similar to a M3 submachine gun (wwII grease gun)

[@CJ-eo2xz]

Guys, welcome to our world where none of the legislation makes any sense.

[@ramennoodles1843]

@@kenf5656 yeah, that is why we need to save paintball!

[@NinjaEnShort]

The RCMP will argue this paintball gun looks too much like an M3 Grease gun or something like it.

[@craigquann]

Don't worry they will definitely coming after .22lr and their "high capacity magazines"

[@joeyn985]

That's the irony, an airsoft gun is now more illegal than the actual gun it was designed to look like

[@ramennoodles1843]

Many hopper fed paintball guns do not look like firearms. Mostly it's the magfed paintball guns that look like real firearms.

[@joeyn985]

@@ramennoodles1843 you understand that whether or not a replica gun is deemed to be designed to look like a real gun is up to the government, right? The same government that banned a mossberg .22LR gun as an "AK variant" just because it had a plastic stock made to look sorta like an AK

[@ramennoodles1843]

@@joeyn985 I hope you know that the government can say that anything can look like a gun right even if it doesn't look like a gun

[@SCOTIAARMSAIRSOFT]

Truly Sad times, I currently own and operate a Airsoft Tech shop as well as a 160 acre game property . I have been involved in Airsoft for over 10 years now, This Bill-C21 will end all of this and at the same time put me in a position where the Law will be able to legally confiscate My over $10,000.00 private collection of Airsoft models without reimbursement ,while at the same time making me a possible criminal....totally unacceptable ! many years of my hard work taken away which in no way will curve the actual people that are committing the crimes. WE NEED TO STAND AND FIGHT THIS! Thank You Runkle for the Informed video

[@joedubs4545]

This is so fucked. We can't let this go through

[@geraldarcuri9307]

Why not try expressing yourself with something other than gutter language. Your cause might go further if you do.

[@generalpatten5043]

Arcuri....you just don't get it. This isn't about someone dropping the "f bomb". Oh quick everyone, covers your ears!! GOOD HEAVENS! This is about an issue where the government is turning a legitimate, harmless sport into a criminal activity, only to pander votes from people who think the government is doing something about PUBLIC SAFETY!! PLEASE.......

[@yards101]

@@geraldarcuri9307 omg shut up

[@joedubs4545]

and it's a low blow for them to do this. The Government is literally going after children and sports players. They're turning on there own citizens

[@SceneVaultTV]

@@geraldarcuri9307 why u even hear

[@AvenEngineer]

Canadians don't have the right to own property of any kind, we merely exist at the privilege of politicians.

[@eugy2008]

Because we are thought of as subjects here.

[@craigquann]

Its because we're their piggy bank. If it wasn't for that...

[@randommiscellaneousvideos3592]

I don’t bow down to Justin Trudeau; I bow down to God my creator.

[@trenteaston1226]

try to pay as little tax as possible and this all goes away

[@brandonparlee1710]

@@randommiscellaneousvideos3592 why do people always have to bring up their imaginary friend. JT sucks and so does your sky wizard

[@davewilton3101]

This is possibly more about a redesigning of Canadian culture (see: great reset, UN position on civilians having firearms) than it is about any aspect of Canadian safety.

[@northerndynamo8093]

The UN wants to confiscate everything you own, same for WEF, IMF, and BIS. They'll eliminate every human right you have and literally price you out of existence with you having to beg for food and shelter. See what is chiseled into the Georgia Guide Stones for the end result they want. The last thing these insane elite want is people having some means to defend themselves against attackers.

[@bc5cd]

This has been the plan for decades and spoken as such: "C-68 has little to do with gun control or crime control, but it is the first step necessary to begin the social re-engineering of Canada." - Quote by Senator Sharon Carstairs (Liberal) 1996 January 26 - 11th Annual Community Legal Education Associations (CLEA) Conference, Winnipeg, Manitoba Several people witnessed her saying this, but it is denied by the senator.

[@SmittyMRE]

“You don’t need an Airsoft AR-15 to take down a beer can”

[@craigquann]

It would be funny... but I expect these libtards to say it one day...

[@greenthunder1000]

But I like mine :(

[@Tom_Theodore]

PM Dummy would ban grease guns and caulking guns except he’s never heard of such things

[@vdfsbdz]

Contact your local MP and tell them how you feel about this disgusting bill.

[@ironDsteele]

Most of us have done that; they couldn't care less Conservative or otherwise. Canadians are past that charade.

[@vdfsbdz]

@@ironDsteele I contacted mine and they agreed with my statement and told me to email the prime minister. [e-mail]

[@ironDsteele]

@@vdfsbdz I recieved similar "cookie cutter" type responses from O'Toole, my MP and Premier Doug Ford. I may as well email my cat.

[@vdfsbdz]

@@ironDsteele yeah, but better than doing nothing I suppose

[@ironDsteele]

I agree 100%.

[@taktikairsoft]

Thank you for your video. This was instructive and I shared in my community.

[@pavelfiliptsev1802]

There is an official petition in House of commons against bill C-21. Petition E-3201. Find it and sign it.

[@sassmastersq]

This will also affect all airguns under 500fps, because, as worded, they’re identical to other airguns available in PAL version and because they’re identical, they’re replicas of PAL airguns The entire sub 500 category is dead with this bill.

[@crispin1010]

I gather that whoever drafted this didn’t realize that the air rifle used by the entire Canadian cadet movement is the Daisy's Match Grade Avanti 853C Legend. That C is important because that stands for Canadian version and it shoots at 495 FPS. The original version from the US shoots at 510 FPS making it a firearm under Canadian law. Based on the points that Ian brought this would prohibit the entirety of the Cadet marksmanship program.

[@johnracz6095]

It's bad enough they took away the Enfields converted to .22

[@kinthelt]

The argument could be made that cadets, as a part of the CF, are exempt.

[@crispin1010]

@@kinthelt yes that could be made but these air rifles, for the most part are not stored on military property. They are stored at Legion Halls, at civilian schools (some boarding schools have cadet corps) and at the homes of Cadet instructor list members. Also, strictly said, cadets are not part of the armed forces. They are supported by them and use some CF equipment but are not part of them. The adult officers are however considered part of the Reserves.

[@lordkilgor]

I think Canadians should highlight the fact that any law allowing the government to confiscate your property is unfair, immoral, and will open the route for more laws like this in other areas of life. I am speaking from the perspective of a country that fought communism for over 50 years. We saw how the government was judging every aspect of our lives and gave permissions on everything, this is a rabbit hole that will consume the freedom in a long run.

[@philippevoyer7525]

Color in canada does not define a gun, except if its black and liberals wants to ban it

[@AS-oz6ep]

Black guns matter.

[@finkamain1621]

@@e-legalcanadian On a recent CBC article showing the pictures of guns that they banned, the Ruger Mini 14 and VZ 58 which is most commonly sold with wood furniture, were pictured with black synthetic furniture with rails to make it look scary. When they end up banned the SKS, they'll show a Bubba'd up version of them, again just to scare the public

[@jafo49]

They don't want you to know any gun tactics.

[@berner]

Which one is the least dangerous option to the potential victim of a crime?: A firearm that fires bullets A bladed weapon that doesn't need to be reloaded Something that looks like a firearm (airsoft/replica) If I had my choice as a victim in any of the three, I'd rather go with being threatened by something that looks like a deadly weapon than something that can be used as a deadly weapon. Criminals use airsoft weapons in crimes because they want their victim to play into the fear that comes with it. If you ban airsoft guns outright then you'll see firearm use in crime statistics increase. If the criminal can't get a firearm, then you'll see edged/blunt weapon use in crime statistics go up instead. More airsoft = less firearm deaths/lifelong injuries.

[@MILSIMISTxp]

I really appreciate all of the videos you have been producing. As a RPAl holder, Paintballer, and Airsofter I can't state enough how much of a voice you are that is needed for all of these communities.

[@jointedlimb]

No paintball or air soft... seems they want to prevent any means to train.

[@thegreyghost2789]

exactly, any kind of combat training will be illegal so when Turdo sends in the troops for the "big reset" no one will be able to oppose, he's banning the guns (AR 15's and variants), then all related training

[@QuakeSphere]

You know it!

[@andrewwatters3795]

I was just about to say that. That is definitely what he wants.

[@eugy2008]

I believe it is already a criminal offence to be "drilling". :-(

[@iccus62]

trudeaus big reset.... thats some class A paranoia.

[@simoncleret]

Oi, you got a loicense for that toy?

[@ExpiredSausage]

Toy guns have orange tips.

[@simoncleret]

@@ExpiredSausage Orange tips show up in Canadian law precisely nowhere.

[@ExpiredSausage]

@@simoncleret Ooh sorry bud. You know the video you're commenting on? The one about Bill C-21. Yeah, that bill would make it illegal to own a "toy gun" without an orange tip.

[@simoncleret]

@@ExpiredSausage The words "orange" and "tip" show up nowhere in C-21. It says any replica that resembles a real firearm with "near precision" is a prohibited device.

[@ExpiredSausage]

@@simoncleret  "the firearm is designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision, a firearm" This is why other countries have orange tips on their toy guns. It's about time Canada caught up. Sorry you can't dress up and play soldier anymore.

[@alansmithee5398]

Where is the Canadian Federation of Independent Businesses (CFIB) on this issue? How many Airsoft clubs, groups, organizations will be out of business, close and dissolve their clubs? Where is the gaming industry that produces FPS games? What will happen to that industry because it uses firearms in a manner that is contrary to this bill? Canadians need to wake up and tell these Marxist/Fascist idiots that we've had enough!! When it gets to the point that they can ban toys-we should all be outraged and say enough!! Stand up. Speak up. Before it's too late.

[@michaelkaer]

I just bought a bow and several arrows. I made a staff sling out of bamboo. I grow mulberry which is prized for the bows it makes. You can not stop the people from practicing their skills at aiming.

[@jaclynsfamily3438]

Yes, but after they ban all guns then they will ban bows and arrows next, and if you make your own and they catch you with it you will be charged with possession of and manufacturing of prohibited weapons which will probably get you some serious jail time because we know how much the liberals love criminals, because that's what they are. They won't stop until we are all completely disarmed and helpless to stop their corruption. Never vote liberal we need rid of these dictators.

[@michaelkaer]

@@jaclynsfamily3438 they would have to ban all cloth and ban rocks and stones. I think slings will still be a self made weapon of choice if they go after bows. How are they going to ban hunting? Our native people will never allow a ban on hunting. They are sovereign on their reservations here in Canada.

[@jaclynsfamily3438]

@@michaelkaer I am a hunter too, and I wouldn't put anything past the liberals they are destroying Canada. My point is that we can't let them get away with useless gun bans and restrictions that only target us law abiding citizens because where will it end. The liberals are a cancer on this once great country. Lets vote them out.

[@YoungGunsCanada]

19:00, I've been saying for years airsoft/paintball should join the firearms rights advocacy movement as well.

[@napiermail3592]

The stupid bar they set keep raising

[@johnracz6095]

Justin comes in with a pretty high stupid bar to begin with. His time spent in office hasn't been one of learning.

[@WiseguyKevIn2]

PLEASE JOIN THE CCFR!!! PLEASE!!!! LET THEM HELP US!!

[@AA-dn8dj]

Turdeau is insane.

[@V_for_Vovin]

@@TheWolfsnack Bill Blair is a traitor

[@thegreyghost2789]

his mother suffered from bi polar, it would appear that some of it rubbed off on her son, he does seem to have delusions of grandeur

[@plotsone7446]

I've done my part by emailing the PM as well as my local MP

[@srev1897]

This is also a massive pain for the performing arts (theatre community) who uses Airsoft "replicas" BECAUSE they look real and are not. Otherwise they'll have to rent real guns with a chaperone holding a valid rpal.

[@444mopar]

They would have to purchase deactivated firearms which would still be legal if this bill passed.

[@srev1897]

@@444mopar demand for deactivated guns is much smaller, so availability, variety, cost, and overall convenience would suffer. As originally stated; a massive pain.

[@garfish213]

Wait til the sci-fi tv industry in BC realises what’s going down.

[@LoneBrowncoat]

@@garfish213 .......Well, those guys artistically take NERF and similar toys, paint them grey or black, add LEDs and extra pieces of plastic to disguise then post prod adds the visuals. In the 2nd last episode of this season's The Expanse, Amos' friend from Baltimore used a WE brand gas blow-back pistol, because its kind of futuristic, has no resemblance to any real steel, in the early Mansion scene when the security thugs first show up. I recognised it [its on my 'to buy' wish list], real shiny body there's an air gap between the barrel and receiver and the serrated muzzle end looks cool and I have photos of the manufacturer's entire line.

[@dimman77]

@@444mopar I believe those would maybe now qualify as prohibited 'replicas'? If not, things just became even more ridiculous... Regular handgun: legal with Restricted license and all the associated requirements. Plastic non-functional lookalike of regular handgun or safe Airsoft lookalike if regular handgun: Replica that is Prohibited. Real handgun that is deactivated: Totally fine, do whatever you want with it... Or do they come with some official 'deactivated' paperwork that you can use in case of the seizure/license example he talked about?

[@drumminggoose444]

A fake nail gun is illegal? How does that even make sense?

[@kenf5656]

Thanks for posting this so quickly.

[@Mr_Emoticon]

I have like $5000+ in gear this is gonna ruin me, why am I being attacked ?

[@billsmith7103]

Because you will own nothing and you will be happy

[@Mr_Emoticon]

@@billsmith7103 but god forbid you tax the rich like the rest of us loosing 1/3 our pay (given I'm only kinda joking I don't really remember how the tax system works fully)

[@Alex-su7yk]

Because we live in a horrible country...

[@444mopar]

That's what us law abiding gun owners have been asking ourselves since the liberals started attacking our hobby 50 years ago.

[@britishgamer666]

Just get some real guns now and partake in practical shooting.

[@truocleb]

So if I carry around an 18" piece of 3/4 pipe, that looks like a real Zip gun. I will be arrested?

[@randioli]

If not arrested I'm sure you would raise the ire of some concerned citizen who doesn't know any better who may call you in...ridiculous these days

[@ragnar3891]

Blowguns are also prohibited in Canada. You can actually be arrested for being in possession of a hollow pipe. Anyone can plainly see that this is all about control just like everything else that is happening.

[@MrBarnesky]

Mr. Runkle. Thank you kindly for the learned explanation of the replica firearms provision of Bill C-21. One idea you raised, at around the 17:25 mark, which I found to be the most profound, was that the government is going after people. I can only speak for myself, but I cannot think of a single instance historically where the government going after people was ever something good, something understandable on a moralistic level, or something a reasonable person could abide with. I’m waiting for the day Runkle. Waiting for the day.

[@OakwoIf]

As a side note, the UK seems to have 2 kind of "strategies", one of them is the two-tone guns which are available around the board, but there's another for "realistic immitation firearms" (RIFs), which by and large are the airsoft guns we're trying to save here, I wonder if that would be a better path. It involves an association of registered retailers and the registration of players to a club/field.

[@johntetzler1662]

lovely. even more tracking. got to love the 21st century

[@jasonriddell]

this LAW even removes the UK two-tone guns

[@jasonriddell]

"he Violent Crimes Reduction Act specifically states that to buy a Replica Imitation Firearm the Recipient must be Over 18, and have a valid Reason / Defence for doing so, unless the weapon is over 51% a bright non-military colour such as: Blue, Red, or Green. There are currently no restrictions on owning a Realistic Imitation Firearm / Airsoft Weapon, the restrictions are on the Point of Purchase." per a website in the UK www.patrolbase.co.uk/general-help-and-advice/two-tone-service

[@OakwoIf]

@@jasonriddell Yeah that's my point: the control is at the purchase. The buyer has to produce a "Defense" and the way they do right now, if i understand correctly, is by being a member of an association/club (which seems to require playing 3 games per year at the club to get) as well as reenactment groups (e.g. WW2). Again, i am no lawyer, but this seems like a WAY better deal than C-21 or the status quo.

[@gregaustin8320]

Thank you for your videos,learn a lot from your videos,keep it going. Cheers

[@Hellsing444]

"Playing with guns-when I was a kid I played guns with sticks" lmao fuckin killed me

[@mandarinehd5929]

What you could do is starting a riot by calling the police 24/7 and report stolen/lost airsoftguns.

[@eththeelk4474]

I work at a store where we sell airsoft guns what are we gonna do with all of the Airsoft guns that are still in the store inventory

[@layzorbeeemz7317]

I guess the RCMP will confiscate them if they show up asking for a license to possess them?

[@cheesyknac]

I think the underlying thing that this whole thing about bringing in legislation about how something (airsoft guns or paintball markers) looks is going to be a backdoor way of bringing in laws/rules about stocks or body kits for existing firearms that change their looks into something more tactical and ergonomic. It's going to be another way to get rid of what they consider to be "scary looking guns".

[@jerome5362]

So if someone designed a firearm that looks exactly like a bow, would it retroactively make all bows replica/unrestricted firearms?

[@444mopar]

Yes. Precedent has been set they are willing to retroactively prohibit devices in this manner. This is why 20 round Ruger 10/22 magazines made 30 years ago were banned after the Ruger charger pistol was introduced a few years ago, retroactively limiting all those magazines to the 10 round pistol limit.

[@dmitriyshymko422]

Every time government infringes on your rights, double your training.

[@drvelocci]

I’m curious whether or not they will claim a clear airsoft gun will” replicate any firearm “

[@Mex420Mex]

Walmart/CrappyTire specials are already sketchy in that regard. Almost guarantee they're well below the 366fps mark (which says they're effectively a replica to start with) but having the clear polymer/plastic receiver may be how they get around that classification. Very thought provoking, as I also own some "clearsoft" guns.

[@Mex420Mex]

@@TheWolfsnack Possibly prohibited either way, since Ian mentioned in the video that color doesn't currently factor in (you can CeraKote a real firearm in any color, and you KNOW somebody has tried painting the tip of a real steel gun orange to make it look like a toy).

[@marinusdedreu3833]

@@Mex420Mex the 366-500fps rule is only applicable to import, export, and sale of them. Once you own one, you can have anything under 500fps, and if you have a PAL you can have one over 500fps

[@marinusdedreu3833]

@@Mex420Mex also there is licenses you can get to sell/import/export under 366fps

[@kapitanleutnantschneider2076]

Well like what the guy in the video said colour doesn't really matter so it doesn't matter if it's clear or painted strange colours the fact that it looks or shaped like a real gun is enough for them

[@jamesmurray7042]

Can't a small modification to the bill either allow a simple modification like an orange barrel tip to keep the device exempt, or allow a valid reason defense for possession of imitation fire arms as we have in the UK?

[@tonicipriani]

See his followup video on responding to C-21. Basically says orange tips just delays the inevitable.

[@erichache6793]

Like you said, I also used a branch as a makeshift gun as a kid, so branches are gateway guns? LOL

[@jasonriddell]

playing wild west riding BMX "horses" "shooting" each other with our hands and the thumb as the "hammer" on our "6 shooter"

[@herbderbler1585]

"Don't be ridiculous. No one's going to take away your...**checks this year's list** throwing darts."

[@norko94]

Thank you so much for all the information!

[@jaychapman6448]

Yes great videos on firearms topics!

[@beaveredits4677]

Its so embarrassing when people find out I'm canadian. "Owwy I hurt my elbow in airsoft twudeau please ban this"

[@probst9999999999]

Related to this, a lot of 500 fps pellet guns literally have a version sold in the US that shoots more like 750 or 1000 fps... Does this mean that they are a replica of that controlled firearm and therefore prohibited then?

[@444mopar]

If the US version shoots over 500fps and over 5.7 joules, yes.

[@probst9999999999]

@@444mopar They will all be over 5.7J yeah, that's where the 5.7J number comes from it's a typical pellet weight (it is almost exactly the joules of a Crossman pellet) at 500 fps.

[@francoisrioux5869]

Is there any precedent for the "designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision" aspect of it? How much degree of freedom does this allow? Take for instance the Daisy Red Ryder airgun, most likely the most common BB gun on the market. They look like a real lever action rifle but are not modelled after any specific firearm. Do you think these airguns would be in jeopardy?

[@bobhardwick3750]

Any thing that resembles a a fire arm is gone if this government has its way. If your kids are out in the yard playing cops and robers you can guarantee that the police will be walking into your home searching and arresting the all family member for possession of of prohibited weapons without a licence to posses. IAN Thanks the breaking this down for us .

[@davidstonkus3288]

Perhaps if our brothers to the south started to sell Barbie doll concealed pistols and unicorn concealed AR15's then P.M. Blackface would have to confiscate all dolls and unicorns. Silly, yes, but so is this law.

[@magnum1165]

They ban things for the dumbest reasons, like my old favourite: switchblades, does it really matter how the knife functions if your gonna use it for illegal purposes? I herd they banned switchblades because of the stigma that they’re were weapons mobsters use to carry in the old days

[@diabloman]

Some people might think that their break barrel 495fps pellet rifle is safe... but how many of those have a virtually identical 800-1100fps version? With how the law is written, the Stoeger X5 could easily be considered virtually identical to the X20, which would mean it should be prohibited. Who knows if they will go that deep on it, but thats how its written

[@gordonrunn]

You covered how changing the colour of the airsoft gun won't be enough to protect it, but my wife and I own a couple of transparent airsoft guns, would they still be prohibited under Bill C-21?

[@Schaden-freude]

targeting airsoft is more latently stating that those games are militia training than an actual public safety concern

[@jackgunn1480]

This is only the start. Wait until they pass a law that will force you to give up all property rights, in exchange for your freedom to go grocery shopping without a face diaper.

[@davidia8000]

What about cross bows I know is not airsoft but would it fall into prohibition?

[@OvAeons]

Soooo they are going to destroy 1000s of jobs and the people who have invested 10s of thousands of dollars in a competitive play set up are shit out of luck? Illegal to own, use and sell... Govn't should also be prepared to pay out everyone who has an airsoft gun.

[@stasiaroycewicz329]

Yeah so you want them to give the money you paid them in taxes to purchase your legally purchased and owned property. That isn't the way to go about this. Their banning train isn't ever going to stop. We need to stop them.

[@stipuledfatcat]

Honestly if I am going to get mugged I really hope they are using an airsoft gun and not a real one or a knife. That way at least they can't decide to kill me even if I comply.

[@checkmate058]

Thumbnail looks like an evidence seized photo. I love the subtle look into the future.

[@yotoronto12]

Thanks. This has been very insightful. I received an email from my local MP today stating the following: _Thank you for your email and I hope this email finds you well._ _I understand your concerns here regarding this matter, and how this could impact airsoft guns and their availability. This regulation aims to address the availability of BB guns that resemble real firearms, but fire projectiles that do not exceed 152 m/s in speed. We understand how airsoft play is an activity enjoyed by many Canadians, but these regulations aim to limit the availability of certain specific types of guns, and not the entire industry. Airsoft guns which fall below the 152 m/s threshold, and do not exactly resemble a genuine firearm, are exempted from this reality. We've seen instances of violent crime occurring with replica firearms which are used to intimidate Canadians. Law enforcement officials have detailed how replica firearms have been found in crime sites with increasing frequency, and the actual use of a firearm is not necessary when intimidating members of the community. Replica firearms are illegal already, and this regulation aims to fill in these gaps. I understand how these questions could arise, especially with an airgun enthusiast such as yourself. This regulation however, does not ban airsoft but does prevent certain airsoft models from being made._ _Thank you again for reaching out to me, and if you have any further questions feel free to reach out._ While I do appreciate the respectfulness, I'm am still very concerned with the insinuation of banning it without saying they are given that 90%+ plus of the market would fall under the new criteria. The same goes for certain other platitudes and what I assume is toeing the party line. Again your video shows that this statement is contradictory to the law changes. What do you and the others here make of this?

[@eugy2008]

When did liberal government do anything good for licenced gun owners???

[@rane9096]

Wow, and I thought 🇬🇧 sub 12FPE rule was draconian 😳

[@1Sparrow1]

Can someone clarify what this means for current BB and Pellet gun replica owners not airsoft (pistals that are under 500 fps). If you are transporting them safely will you still be able to take them to a local range and use them for target practice like you can currently do now? Right now Bass Pro isn't selling airsoft pistols but they are still selling bb and pellet pistols. Thanks

[@newtuber64]

It actually makes me wonder are golf clubs and baseball bats next?

[@samanthasmith2938]

Hey Runkle..can you look over the airbow by umarex..the air javelin...its not a replica of anything..will c21 ban it? Thanks

[@Xxfootball70xX]

Thank you for talking about this. me and my buddies are pretty worried our favourite past time will be destroyed.

[@dmckay1972]

Join the CCFR !

[@Uria-jz1gu]

lol, 500fps doesnt even mean anything. What if i put .12g bbs in it ?

[@fastestdino2]

It's really dissapointing how bad faith this all is. I was talking to many people who were discussing how people should be able to lock their guns at the range or something. To save the discussion from going into something like, well it would paint a big target on the range for many guns to steal. I kept it simple instead. I said "Well, because the liberals pushed these guns straight into prohibited category, that can't happen. They've went straight to criminalizing instead of having a discussion". That tends to convince most people who are on the fence, instead of having a long discussion about the semantics on the ban. As for the airsoft thing. I literally don't think I know a Canadian who is happy about that. They all are pretty in agreement that they're just toys and nothing more. I seriously don't know who they are trying to impress by banning airsoft except a very very vocal tiny minority of lobbyists at best. Even the some of the most gun-unfriendly states in this world have made special exceptions for realistic looking airsoft guns. The only two countries that really come to mind in terms of banning it were Australia and China.

[@johnzkeePW]

China is loosening airsoft laws. There are now games in China. But the thing is that you have to store it in the game site and you can only use it in the game site. You can't bring it home.

[@jshtaylor]

I am still unclear of the replica rule. Would a Umarex XBG be considered a replica. It looks like a generic semi-auto handgun, but is not intended to look like any particular model.

[@flamedphoenix84]

I don't know why they don't have this type of law or Bill change to hit all news and social media and give everyone the chance to discuss their opinion on it and have the whole country deciding it instead of the government.

[@vladudo5377]

Quick question for Ian. I noticed that people from airsoft/pellet gun community are trying to find ways to keep their toys. Some people, especially PAL holders are talking about upgrading air guns to meet firearm criteria. Question is, will those things be considered just non restricted or they would fall under multiple categories depending on what they look like, whether or not its a select fire etc. Also, what about magazine capacity? Same as firearm? Edit: watched another airsoft related video and found answers.

[@SiliconPower74]

In Spain, they changed the weapons law to include airsoft and paintball guns in the firearms law. Right now is legal but there are problems, we have to register all the guns and renew it every five years ($$$) and you cant leave your city or municipality bcs the registration is only valid for your local town. Looks like they only make it quick to take more money from us.

[@littlerichardthetruekingof1028]

Wtf

[@truedoh2831]

Stick ban could actually happen too. Young kids have been suspended from school for playing with "gun sticks" and "chicken finger guns".

[@southmoreconlin3757]

It’s not specific enough. What makes an airsoft gun an replica. My ares striker AS01 doesn't have a real life counterpart however, it looks extremely real. Does this make it illegal or legal? And if a police catches you with it how can they make the decision If it directly replicates a gun or not. Also, what if my guns have orange tips on it? Is that illegal?

[@paintballthieupwns]

There is debate in the paintball community on how close " designed or intended to exactly resemble " applies to some paintball markers. I have been worried that the wording "intended" will allow a very broad interpretation that most things that try and look like an M4 will be caught up in the bans for example ( first-strike.ca/first-strike-arms-t15-paintball-gun/ )

[@ExplorePaintball]

The majority of magfed markers with broad interpetation would be caught up in this

[@aheath73]

Man oh man.... this is going to be a crazy year, especially as the clock is still ticking on the OIC which has it’s amnesty period ending in just over a year! Hang in there everybody!

[@ajjeff1033]

I was asked by a friend today whether I thought this would apply to potato canons we built for our scout troup..any idea? Would he be sitting on prohib weapons if it passed?

[@rane9096]

If there’s one thing to unite the left and right, it would likely be this, no one should be without the ability to defend themselves or own a gun, especially not an air pistol or air rifle. Red flag law, sure, but if you’re not actively wanting to harm another person or yourself, This is seriously just being spiteful

[@TDKBB2011]

What about BB (.177) guns, like the Daisy 853c (fires @ 490 FPS) and look like lever action rifle?

[@joehemsworth4162]

Real simple apply the law and punish the criminals. If someone uses an airsoft gun in a robbery charge them to the full extent of the law. Possessing a replica should only be an offense if it used in a criminal act.

[@XOIIOXOIIO]

That's already how it works. If you use an airsoft gun in a crime it's treated the same as if you used a real steel firearm.

[@joehemsworth4162]

@@XOIIOXOIIO that's how it is suppose to be. Those using real firearms are not even being punished to full extent of the law.

[@B1u3sky1]

What about a ukara setup like we have in uk i know its not a licence but it is a defence

[@Advokat_]

Wow. I wish I hadn't gone looking for this video! A cursory glance at C-21 (and not being a "firearms lawyer") told me I had nothing to worry about with my plinker. Now I know that I could never produce a license for it and it could be seized. Ugh. I can no longer live in blissful ignorance. Thanks, Ian. ;)

[@sarissanhunter7227]

Does this affect cosplay or fandoms, in that things like many of the guns in Star Wars are mostly world war 2 era guns with extra bits glued on to them? Sure the cosplayers are obviously not walking around with firearms but they are using replicas to an extent?

[@Theoriginalborgy]

I'm still a little confused, I have a Mag fed paintball marker (T15) that's 1:1 replica to an AR-15 but does not shoot above 300 fps ? I'm assuming this is going to be banned? thanks in advance A worried paintball'er.

[@StratBlackFishRa]

What about the clear plastic airsoft guns you can see through/into

[@michaelkennedy4444]

Make a cross bow out of 1X1s and a great big elastic band and shoot bent nails. That’s what us kids use to do back in the sixties.

[@Pipes570]

This outright would destroy the entire WW2 reenactment community, since we also do like to incorporate airsoft into our hobby. Our hobby relies on historical accuracy, meaning that airsoft rifles used have to look like the actual version. So, a Mauser Kar98k has to look like a real on, an MG42 has to look like the real one, an M1 Garand has to look like a real one, and so on and no orange tips. The biggest thing that removes the identical factor is that no aisoft version contains any markings on it such model number, etc. And the versions you can get here are generally marked with a sticker on the packaging that is has been manufactured for sale in Canada.

[@glennmann9750]

so if i own a airsoft gun and gut it so it has no working parts is it legal for a display peace

[@JaneCobbsHat]

Hey airsofters, where were you when they came for real guns?

[@lightmetro7508]

I was just as pissed

[@JaneCobbsHat]

@@lightmetro7508 Good for you. Many weren't. Same goes for Fudds, reenactors, black powder shooters, bow hunters, cosplayers etc. It is time they all realized that when PM Baked Potato and his junta come for their toys there will be none to speak out for them if they don't mobilize now..

[@aqwannos]

Pissed off about the Government coming for my Guns.

[@JaneCobbsHat]

@ I don't hate Fudds, I just wish they realized that our fight is theirs too.

[@JaneCobbsHat]

@ Yes, this I agree with. That attitude is as revolting as it is suicidal in the long run. One ay as well ask "Who needs musketeer guns in 2021?"

[@ExplorePaintball]

What about magfed paintball markers? Like the T15 ,468,tmc, m17 sar12?

[@locktockshockrock]

What about guns that were never manufactured as a real steel gun like a magpul pdr-c?

[@gregbetts8057]

so a crossman 357 "python" from the70s would be prohibited ? othar question , would a sumerly conviction of a crime ban you of obtaining a pal ? good vid , thanks

[@KBohn]

I appreciate the honesty in the video. Hopefully we can get something done or looks like its time for a new hobby.

[@davidstonkus3288]

Maybe Justine Turdoo just wants us to play with dolls.

[@eugy2008]

Sure. He cant handle strong men!

[@finkamain1621]

Well, a deactivated firearm isn't a firearm and cutting your penis off makes you a woman, in this country

[@eugy2008]

@@finkamain1621 Not sure where you are going with this but who would deactivate firearms right now? It's the worst idea now!

[@Mr2greys]

On a similar note, waiting for any movie with guns in it (i.e Bourne Identity, Wick,etc) being banned in Canada as they "promote violence"

[@matzeu13]

Wait what if my gun is a clear airsoft gun with a orange tip that’s a replica of a colt 1911 would that be prohibited too if bill c-21 passes??

[@OneInTheMosh]

Since it can be painted to look like a real 1911 I assume it would be prohibited. It's the shape that matters

[@aluckyshot]

Ya weird for sure, 1911's aren't illegal yet.

[@crusherolies8195]

the authorization is the key for this, the grandfather plan is your authorization to continue to keep what previously had no license required.

[@erikkirby1]

If i read the bill correctly: If i can prove that my airsoft sniper shoots 182m/s and is a replica of a JAE 700, it is leagal?