Bill Cipher's SECRET ORIGINS - Gravity Falls Theory

[@chasethemaster3440]

This aged pretty well in the book of bill he does see the third dimension and tries to show it to others thus causing the destruction of his realm

[@Dragonpuppeteer-ex6hg]

i just relized he doesnt have a mouth so he talks and eats/drinks through his eye so thats why he loved his eye so much and hates when it has to regenerate

[@GAT957]

its a mouth with infinite space behind and a eye is in the middle of the mouth

[@ADAMan123]

When he he have to regen his eye?

[@ADAMan123]

Ignore the typo lol

[@YourNewLordAndMaster]

@@ADAMan123 the shackatron ripped out bills eye during the final fight

[@Uh12343]

Btw when he was telling ford about what can happen if he tells the equation, he says "a party that never ends and a host that never dies, no more restrictions, no more laws."

[@danielcurren2119]

the axolotl is cannon as bill evokes his name to "someday return" when it was "his time to burn"

[@Thestuffdoer]

17:43 FINALLY, SOMEONE MENTIONS THE OTHER GLOWING, FLOATING, SHAPE WITH ONE EYE

[@KayenaatSandhu-m5s]

it looks like the symbol for Freemasons. The rulers as the bottom 2 edges, and his 'eye' is the hinge of the compass as the top 2 edges.

[@tristintaylor7999]

What if a lowly triangle realized the cast system itself was a triangle, and then that lowly shape became THE triangle and gained the ability to see outside of his limited realm. He reaches out to touch the beauty of infinity, right above him and ends up accidentally destroying is universe. The realization drives him insane and he gives in to chaos

[@Uni_974]

Finally‚ someone exploring the different possibilities of bill cipher past‚ instead of just beliving that he is from flat land

[@invisi-bullexploration2374]

I pieced together that he is in fact a child. And this is what makes him so damned deadly. It's hinted that as soon as he got his powers terrible things happened that he didn't want and that shattered his sanity. (Flatworld's end might have been an accident.) Like the original intent was to create a being that went around *helping people* and at some point Bill still may be able to do that. But not in his 'Son Wulong' phase he can't. Or won't. It's funny because of how relative things are. We see a narcissistic psychopath that wants to play with 'toys' until he gets bored with them but this could just be some cosmic figure stuck in their Terrible Two's which they will grow out of eventually.

[@nexenzy5825]

bro not only guessed it, but also the silly straw foreshadowing is insane

[@CRIS_IS_ON_INFINITE_EARTHS]

0:01 I like to call him, "Decoder Johnson" but that's between me and him.

[@GabrielaPrecibilovik]

BOOK OF BILL ITS TOMORROW BOYYYY

[@AstralGnome-64]

IT COMES OUT 2 DAYS AGO YIPPE

[@Salt_Master_Queue]

@@AstralGnome-64 I got it yesterday (July 27, 2024), and I need to actually take some time to actually read it

[@Jellytube-ng2xw]

I… I can’t believe it. SOMEONE MADE A VIDEO ON FLATLAND!!!?!?!?!!)!!)01!!011110!1 Thank you :)

[@Jellytube-ng2xw]

@@CornsNBeans ikr! Sadly, I do not know a lot of people irl who have read it so it’s nice to see this!

[@Jellytube-ng2xw]

Me: Realizing Flatland has its own movie Me:*Hyperfixates on movie* A friend: Leans over to see what I’m watching A friend: WTF is that goofy ahh acid trip Me:

[@vickypedia1308]

Wait until you find out about the fandom defining fanfic "Flat Dreams" in which we follow Bill Cipher's upbringing in Flatland to his eventual rise to power

[@javaDB.1.0.V1]

@@Jellytube-ng2xw It has two, though-!

[@javaDB.1.0.V1]

@@Jellytube-ng2xw I read Flatland before watching Gravity Falls, actually... :) Probably the show increased the amount of normies who decided to look at it.

[@Otokichi786]

Bill Cipher's 2D world reminds me of the 2D world encountered in the "Futurama" episode, "2-D Blacktop." 9:20 So, Bill Cipher was a middle class bullshuffler like, say, Fidel Castro, on a power trip? Ain't that original. Why doesn't Bill Cipher have a cadre of True Believers? We arrive at the There Can Only Be One with ultimate power idea. Bill is now at the top of the pecking order, he can manipulate/destroy any other multidimensional organism, like a "Star Trek" Q. But then, the city limits of Gravity Falls keeps the "Isosceles monster" in another kind of trap. So much for ultimate power, eh?

[@manumaker0859]

This is more or less correct. Flatland is even referenced in the book of bill.

[@jableczznik]

It’s so good watching the gf fandom rise up from the dead because of the book of Bill lmao. Like seriously I missed the hype so much- Also great vid!!

[@celestesummers3549]

Spoiler alert for book of bill! After saying theory number two is the weakest, it actually is really close to what bill himself said about his past. While most of the stuff he says is blurred out and he can be lying to us, he basically says that he was born with the gift to see into the third dimension and wanted to share it with all the others basically because he thought is was cool. However something went wrong (this is the part that is blurred out) and everyone but him ended up dying. So life sucking being the reason he did it actually sounds about right. But something I find funny (and why I don't think he is lying to us about this) is that we do get to see a small piece of text that says something like that his hands were shaking realizing what he did can't be undone. He feels sad about what he did, even though in the show he denies it. The reason why I don't think he's lying is because the axolotl also mentions how he says he's happy but he's a liar. Now because of that denial he causes as much chaos as he can, convincing himself he's happy about what he did. So to sum up the theory Bill is depressed because his life sucked and does bad things to get dopamine. So your theory is basically right. (Yes I genuinely just wrote an entire paragraph to say that.) I could kinda see number three eventually being kinda accurate as well when more information is released. So pretty good job, man!

[@TheFordoCanonizationCommittee]

"William Cryptograph" I CAN'T

[@pronectar6866]

They actually made animated "movies" of flatland, and its "sequel"

[@erubianwarlord8208]

there is a sequel?

[@pronectar6866]

@@erubianwarlord8208 to the book, sorta. It was made by someone else decades later as a sequel.

[@shnmang25]

It's called "sphereland"

[@muhammadmufti3569]

​@@pronectar6866was it called flatterland

[@muhammadmufti3569]

​@@pronectar6866was it called flatterland?

[@MrThedarkghost10]

Video goes hard

[@Beardash123]

0:03 say “billiam cryptograph”

[@SupperCheeser]

Bro this might actually be correct,it’s shown in the book of bill the tier or class

[@vhien6898]

the start of theory four was actually right from the book it says he had a rare mutation allowing him to see into the third dimension when he wanted to show it to his parents and friends it ended up burning his world by mistake.

[@themysteriousgravityfalls]

Excellent job with the editing, you put a lot of effort in to it. Personally, the “chosen dread” theory is always the one I just assumed was the correct one. I thought that was heavily implied by the Axolotl’s poem. Excellent video, I will take this all into account for my grand theory discussing Bill’s whereabouts after the end of the show. I hope you continue to make more videos.

[@Attikrow]

All things considered, I think you came pretty close to the true origin we got from the book (or more accurately, the website) after it came out! Just swap him being a low-class citizen with the fact that now we know he was actually just a child, and that's more or less what we actually got!

[@griffinmontminy2264]

You should read the fan fic flat dreams, it’s about bill’s backstory but it’s SO GOOD! There are times I forget that it’s not actually cannon it’s just that good.

[@infiniduck100]

Which website can I read it on?

[@wormwoodcocktail]

@@infiniduck100Fairly certain that the author, PengyChan, has an AO3 and FF account.

[@chickennuggetman2593]

oh god i just realized i read it all in one sitting it took several hours, mostly because i got a headache and needed to take breaks, and, because i got distracted with responsibilities. Liam.

[@axelbenedict3301]

Sound logic, have a subscribble

[@Bobafet_duck]

That’s actually what I did I didn’t relize how small this KZbinr was until I looked at his channle

[@erubianwarlord8208]

in the flat land movie A. square's 4th dimensional ramblings are what cause the X and Y factions to go to war and ends up getting flatland destroyed but for one being A square falls 'through' flatland's membrane as its destroyed and ends up in the 0th dimension (seemingly inside one of the many "the ruler" of the 1th dimension) its possible that bill in A square's role could both blame himself for the destruction of the 2nd dimension (blames the Arson for the fire) and gain knowledge from passing from the 3rd to the 0th to start dimensionally clawing his way 'back up'

[@radioactiveraptor1011]

FINALLY. A VIDEO ESSAY ABOUT BILL CIPHER AND FLATLAND!!! Great Video!

[@radioactiveraptor1011]

Also, there’s an insanely good fan-fiction called ‘Flat Dreams’ that is based on this theory, which goes into Bill’s origins. It was a influential work for me.

[@bunnycifer_]

cw: book of bill spoilers: you were right expect he had a mutation where he could see the 3d Dimension/up (as a book of bill owner myself)

[@GrimblyGoo]

You have great potential, good luck on your content creation journey :)

[@YeetSpace]

The idea is there, Bill having referred to the family that adopted him as his family and when talking about them not existing anymore cuz he you know destroyed the entire dimension. That's why he has so much animosity despite referring to them as his family possibly?

[@Queen_Zaza]

What if he was the square? Let me explain. In *The Flatland*, the square’s mind is completely blown after discovering infinity. *Infinite dimensions*. Something Bill is obsessed over in the show. I’m not finished. In *The Flatlands*, shapes are able to attend this “Configuration”, a process that develops underdeveloped shapes. It’s a risky process for shapes that have uneven sides, like an isosceles triangle. However, an equilateral triangle, a triangle with equal sides all around, have the potential to rise in the ranks. Therefore, the possibility of Bill developing into a Square, the shape that never questions existence, but instead always conforms to social norms. When Bill finally meets enlightenment after discovering the existence of *Infinite Dimension*, he obsesses, and in the chaos of the world around him, his world is euthanized by the 3rd dimension, forever making Bill responsible for the permanent collapse of his world. Either that, or our square is the less manic but manic nonetheless character we see in Gravity Falls that stands besides Bill in Weirmageddon.

[@scoopysketches]

This video is great! It’s cool to see how close you were in your theories to the actual book (the cover of flatland even appears on the title page of Bill’s origin section!!)

[@skyavenger7504]

That very interesting, thank you for the video. Also that spin was clean.

[@toejam-onvr]

WILLIAM CRIPERDAVE?? WEIRD NSFW DRAWINGS OF ME? CANCEL. NOW. NEVER SHOW THOSE THINGS TO ME EVER AGAIN.

[@SadKris]

william lucipher is still my favorite line in the entire book

[@kurtzplay4095]

the book you talk about, flat land have in The Book Bill

[@leathmccaffrey1532]

William Cryptograph goes hard. Edit: I don't care if a thousand people read this. Not a single person should like it. We've achieved the perfect number. If you like it, comment a ❤️ or something.

[@GAT957]

bob puzzles

[@Thestuffdoer]

robert riddles

[@that_objectguy]

William…A-[FIVE NIGHTS! FIVE INNOCENT LIVES I TOOK BEFORE THEIR TIME.]

[@funnifunnifunni]

geoff enigma

[@ihateurguts.87]

i’m assuming the perfect number was 69 and has since been ruined. i say this bc i find nothing special about the number 91. anyway i’m the 92nd like.

[@Egryzilon]

5:25 I JUST SAW THIS MOVIE BEFORE THIS VIDEO It's name is: Flatland The Film: official HD Version

[@Kirbing0]

4:39 ITS TAD STRANGE OH MY GOD

[@DaveTheBall]

i missed him.... BUT MY AIM IS GETTING BETTER

[@Idkperson-vl1cp]

... MY AIM IS GETTING BETTER

[@alexxxanderarmstrong]

Blown away that this channel has so few subs. This is a crime. Keep up the great work!

[@wormwoodcocktail]

10:44 Someone needs to tell the author of this video about _Flat Dreams_

[@marshy_5406]

Cryptos looks like the actual Freemasons symbol like how bill is the Illuminati

[@hyun-shik7327]

Bill is so good at magic because he’s been training for a trillion years.

[@yourbestpallshawn4139]

This book is gonna be dooooope, preordered both copies. But I really hope they make a movie or atleast a couple shorts.

[@lou626]

I love this theory!!!

[@Marcy53Volkswagen]

we need a gravity falls animation on a flatland adaptation

[@Chartus-ij1rp]

Theres actually a movie you can watch on youtube

[@Generic-TacoGuy]

Damn u are a great content creator

[@ellaaa.8]

This is great omg

[@yonianimates]

I am never gonna look at Bill the same way, great theory.

[@justyana5488]

Woah- youre underrated dude!!!! This is awesome

[@carolinavelluto]

the way you describe how flatland is ... no wonder bill went insane !! no one wants and can live in such opressive and terrible reality and be ok with.. you will feel chained .

[@Microwave_vr69]

My guest is that he is that Bill cipher is gonna go back to his world, but he’s gonna be a square

[@cheziscool1234]

he should've said and down we go the bottomless pit

[@skistorm739]

I guess destory in world not universe and got god-hood and dreamscape make him look more powerful than he actally is but still really powerful.

[@vasya2284]

So you say that William Cryptograph is deltarune secret boss? Neat

[@darkqueennyannya159]

The thing i didnt like about the book of bill is that the one with the extra content can only be bought in america and so i had to get my friend to order it for me

[@ezrakaglic]

Makes a lotta sense nice vid!

[@BarneyCalhounHL]

It was cannon after all! Nice theory!!

[@JohnsWorld19]

This is fire I believe it it explains a lot I swear I heard this theory a while back though lol

[@TheInfintyithGoofball]

Who's here after reading The Book of Bill?

[@GIZMOGNOM3]

me; it's insane how he guessed this before book of bill

[@noobbutepic]

YOU DESERVE TO BE WELL KNOWN NOT GONNA LIE ❤

[@summerlewis7194]

Great video ❤❤

[@kongernen9373]

Ah nice. A good classic theory

[@Pijanywegorz2137]

Fellow Inscryption player detected!!! The Scrybe of Magicks in the background! Btw, great video ❤

[@Tick..Tock...]

You could be right! I was reading The Book Of Bill and in the page with the writing "My Story", there is the Flatland's book cover's flat land drawing. The same exact thing.

[@spritecranberry9664]

0:49 fnaf world pinwheel circus music goes hard 🔥

[@CRIS_IS_ON_INFINITE_EARTHS]

Dude this is such a brilliant theory!!

[@lilly.bug.g]

This is such a cool theory!! This is definitely my headcannon unless we learn otherwise.

[@Gabethedoggo]

0:01 I like to call him “billy dechipered”

[@Gabethedoggo]

baby bill is a very smooth man🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@I.LoveChina]

You channel is amazing and underrated I hope you get more subscribers

[@Eclipse_RLx]

People I preordered it and it coming Today

[@Gamewizard13th]

The flatland movie is amazing and uploaded for free on KZbin by the creator

[@fireboytheone]

this is confirmed

[@realStressed]

i love this video and want to read flatland now

[@bug.-xn2zm]

I THOUGHT YOU ATLEAST HAD A 10k SUBSCRIBERS ? Your editing skills are amazing and your theories perfect ! NEW SUB !

[@calvinbrown3034]

Video is 🔥

[@YeetSpace]

Oh my god Bill is The Hunger from The Adventure Zone

[@Chamomile.Tea31]

7:51 Why did I never notice this alone foreshadowed him becoming a statue. Or (up to date spoilers) exactly how he “dodged” death.

[@spiritsofwolves]

This is cool! I have very similar theories! I would tell you it but i dont really have it prepared on the spot and would have to think really hard to organize it into a paragraph lol

[@real2kutt]

i have a tattoo of bill

[@verstrahlt1907]

there was also another Flatland cartoon, with a boy, a dog and a rubber-rocked, they met the 2-D beings. I cannot find anywhere…

[@verstrahlt1907]

and the 2-D being were depicted as 2-D people, instead of polygons… If anyone knows this, please write me

[@leovarvariuk6124]

This is honestly a great theory

[@Australia_Ball0]

i call him billy boi

[@sonyatimmermann1209]

Bill Bill Bill Bill

[@ilikeindigo]

why did i immediately recognise scrybe of magicks

[@TheCollossalDan]

17:51 This is quite obvious a square and compass, 2 of the 3 parts of the symbol of Freemasonry.

[@twoshirts1842]

We getting out the 3rd dimension with this one. Where my 4th dimensional beings at?

[@despacito4972]

Love the first scene

[@Entity303wastaken]

MATPAT RETIRED TOO EARLYYY

[@thegayprometheus6097]

FLATLAND MENTIONED 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@grimbb9358]

Yep, I saw the cover of flatland in the book of bill

[@MrCrowley6]

You underestimate the validity of this theory.

[@sketchyfoxXD]

Underrated ❤❤❤

[@chris08crimson08]

Mr game and watch chained and contained bill seeing his dangerous potential. That is just my theory.

[@CartoonNetworkFoundation]

I found a little theory, so the real name of Bill Cipher is B Triangle.

[@Muoz98]

Kryptos design and shape come from the Masonic symbol.

[@darknessblades]

Since flatland is flat, how would it work with multiple flatlands existing? Like with a cube, that would hold 6 flatlands on itself. or in a mobius strip, flatland would be endlessly looping in on itself

[@lartum1]

That normal and william cryptograph (Tad strange and bill cipher)