Jim Cornette said that Bill Dundee was the most brilliant booker and angles guy he has ever seen, and Corny doesn't give out praise easily.
@mackspowah32814 жыл бұрын
I bet Flair wouldn't drop N bombs in front of guys like Bad News Allen or Ron Simmons
@kennycarlson99968 ай бұрын
him and ron simmons are friends , but ya true
@user-wp5yd3kp6o4 ай бұрын
Nah he saved that for Rocky King + Teddy Long
@anothonypeterson34025 жыл бұрын
I remember Boris Malenko and Buddy Colt saying something similar about Flair's matches-basically 'Cookie Cutters' matches.
@KenDelloSandro75655 жыл бұрын
Plz put out the full Dundee video. Been waiting for weeks
@dj79735 жыл бұрын
Superstar Bill Dundee is tremendously underrated as a performer. Great in-ring skills, on the mic and booker.
@rict58785 жыл бұрын
Why does Bill sitting in front of a UFO make this shoot even more cool?
@VolumedMusicMan Жыл бұрын
ELO 😂
@themanwithnoname47233 жыл бұрын
Superstar Bill Dundee is was one of the Greats. Had some badass matches.
@larrythomas65435 жыл бұрын
Bill was always good to me. In Memphis and in WCW both. Good worker and got OVER!!!
@jpmcpheemcphee26955 жыл бұрын
It was nice of Dr D to leave, so Mr Dundee would feel comfortable during the interview
@alanshaw64512 жыл бұрын
"I was 6 inch shorter, we never saw eye for eye"
@rodzor5 жыл бұрын
I'm diggin the flying saucer poster
@ememem63 жыл бұрын
It's been said many times that Flair had to basically tailor make his matches that way cause he wrestled most every nite in different cities nationwide.
@jonnya42095 жыл бұрын
Far too many people say these exact same things about Flair for there to be nothing in it. In fairness its a question of how good he was and how over-rated he was - because he was/is both.
@rolltide95473 жыл бұрын
Greatest American wrestler all time. The schedule he keep in the 80's wrestling 380 times a year flying all over world .
@rolltide95473 жыл бұрын
The reason Flair never came to Memphis was low payouts.
@VolumedMusicMan Жыл бұрын
I remember Jerry Lawler saying that in 1982, that Flair couldn’t get a good pop from the crowd when he first came to Memphis. The territory did much better with Bockwinkel instead of Flair. In 85, there were disagreements among Lawler’s and Dusty’s people over the payoffs after Crockett’s people wrestled in Memphis.
@rolltide9547 Жыл бұрын
@@VolumedMusicMan I heard that Memphis did not want to pay the normal 10% to the NWA champ. In 82 Flair was a new champ. At that point Harley Race still considered the best in 1982 even though Flair was the champ.
@coolcarley1005 жыл бұрын
Dundee is under rated this guy could wrestle and yes he had more moves than Flair because flair carried the belt did not make him the best wrestler its because he fit the role better and was a great showman on the mic sorry he is not the greatest wrestler . I do like Flair but don't worship him like some do.
@timfrederick93055 жыл бұрын
don cliffton Dundee was underrated for sure and Flair was not the greatest ever you are right on the money
@wkmac24 жыл бұрын
Exactly Don Clinton, well said.
@brianezell57904 жыл бұрын
Ric Flair outclasses Bill Dundee as a wrestler. He was the 2nd biggest draw worldwide in the 80s behind Hulk Hogan. Bill Dundee wasn’t close to the draw that Ric Flair was.
@jeremyjames16592 жыл бұрын
Flair is known for two things. 1 his figure 4 leg lock 2 he cut good promos. He wasn't the wrestler Dundee was, he was just fortunate to be more famous overall. Dundee is a legend in many parts of the US.
@nassermj76713 жыл бұрын
Teddy Long complained about Flair free mouthing him the N word - often. A tone of hurt feelings.
@MC-rf8sx4 жыл бұрын
I been watching the super star and I have to say I like him a lot
@robertanderson49115 жыл бұрын
Maybe Bill Dundee is just pissed he was too short to ride SPACE MOUNTAIN WOO
@daviddavidson80505 жыл бұрын
Wow! Superstar's looking good daddy! Good man. Love Mr. Bill Dundee! He and Jerry Lawler made my childhood in the 1980s with Championship Wrestling. Is Beautiful Bobby Eaton of Midnight Express fame still his son-in-law?
@rolltide95473 жыл бұрын
Watch Flair vs Steamboat in 1989 then watch Flair vs Dusty or Flair vs Harley Race nobody can say these were all the same matches.
@FritziSchnitzel5 жыл бұрын
Flair vs Dundee. Wow.....talk about money left on the table. It could only have been great.
@Yozora_Xion5 жыл бұрын
Bret said the same thing about Flair's matches being the same as well.Bret definitely has nothing to be jealous about,so I think that's how these guys truly feel.No hate involved
@trademarktraining5 жыл бұрын
I was a big Bret fan, but the same could be said of him. Side Russian leg sweep, elbow off 2nd rope, sharpshooter.. i just called every Hart match for his last 10 years.
@ericcline97355 жыл бұрын
rid had the figure four and when it got reversed on Jim it would bring more excitement to his matches because we always wondered.. is he gonna tap out of make it to the ropes
@jeremyjames16592 жыл бұрын
He always made it to the ropes dude lol. That or one of the Horseman would save him.
@greene745 жыл бұрын
These shoot interviews gives a perfect platform to see just how many old wrestlers were jealous of Ric Flair. I’m certainly not suggesting that Flair was innocent of everything, but everyone of these old territory wrestlers who throws hate his way never drew money outside of their own territory. Bill Dundee was 5ft nothing, weighed 100 and nothing, and if it weren’t for Jerry Lawler and Jerry Jarrett he wouldnt have been nothing. Meanwhile, Ric Flair and his handful of wrestling moves is a household name even to nonwrestling fans 🤷🏻♂️.
@Batony5 жыл бұрын
Just b/c he is still a household name, doesn’t mean he isn’t also an habitual liar. I give Flair props bc he sacrificed nearly everything for the business.
@greene745 жыл бұрын
He never drew money outside of the CWA, I don’t care how successful he was as a booker he wasn’t a draw as a performer anywhere other than Jarrett’s promotion.
@imafreakinhistorian21695 жыл бұрын
"Unsuccessful" ??? No I guess you meant other than = Starcade , and two Crockett cups, selling out in Dallas, Holding AWA World Tag Titles, twice,Central States Title in Kansas, Titles in Florida, and Alabama, outside that, hell he hasn't done anything other than Jarrett's company.
@greene745 жыл бұрын
The fact that you probably had to google that information just proves my point 🤷🏻♂️. Btw, the accomplishments you stated doesn’t mean anything as far as drawing money goes, he was not the top draw in any of those scenarios... but nice try though. I mean, there was a reason why top draws in certain territory’s didn’t have the NWA title put on them. And when they did it wasn’t very long (Tommy Rich). We know who was the top draws in JCP, the Fullers and Armstrong’s were the top draws in Alabama (Southeast/Continental/USA), Dusty, the Graham’s, Windhams, and Sullivan in Florida, and territories like Kansas (which was controlled by Geigel and Crockett) was just a melting pot of NWA talent. Which goes back full circle to Dundee, his success was in CWA where Lawler and Jarret made him a star and where he had the most success.
@imafreakinhistorian21695 жыл бұрын
@@greene74 Well i didn't need to google anything, i remember it. I'm 50yrs. old. I was there for a lot of it, lol. You sure are down on the Superstar, did he beat you up at some point, or steal your woman ?
@wkmac24 жыл бұрын
I know wrestlers can have big egos and that can effect perceptions but Dundee is right about one thing and that is when you see one Flair match, you've seen them all. And I love Nature Boy, he's an icon, even wrestling fans who don't know anything else know who Ric is. Ric was great cutting a promo and entertaining as hell. Loved his ha-ha moment in Atlanta when he baited Precious to come out to the mike and while Ric did his thing, Precious slapped him. Great comedy that really popped. Memphis style wrestling was in many respects unique, which adds to its appeal, Dundee a big part of that. And not to diminish Lawler either. Dundee knew how to book and tell a great story and credit to Jerry Jarrett in knowing how to have good people around him and if memory serves me, wasn't Memphis the last of the old school territories to survive which also sez something about Memphis IMO. I grew up with Crockett wrestling in the 60's and then Georgia/Gordon Solie Wrestling in the 70's and 80's but have a lot of respect for Bill and the Memphis/Mid South/UWF wrestling. That was good stuff and it would be ashame if I failed to mention the great Lance Russell RIP.
@chrisjack5435 жыл бұрын
Dundee tells it like it is, don't want da answers don't ask da questions
@williamarchibald13785 жыл бұрын
he does from his point of view
@jakebrown3855 жыл бұрын
Bill Dundee cut a promo riding his girlfriends bike on Jerry Jarrets farm. And then beaten by Koko. Koko? Wow pathetic!
@oleshep15 жыл бұрын
Billy, Billy, Billy ..time has not been kind to you.
@84sp845 жыл бұрын
oleshep1 Agreed Bill looks rough, but have you seen Flair lately? Not too pretty either.
@bigtrex765 жыл бұрын
Love this guy!!!!!
@kingsports11133 жыл бұрын
Ric flair was gonna beat bill Dundee anyway LMAO LMAO 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Ric flair was the king of Memphis Jerry Jarrett didn't want that over his career
@masterjedi55104 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoy these shoot interviews until they get to the subject of other wrestlers, especially very high-achieving performers like Ric Flair, Steve Austin, The Rock, Triple H, Hulk Hogan Etc. Rarely do the interviewees have a decent word to say about wrestlers that were far more popular than themselves.
@nath82825 жыл бұрын
So Flair never heard of Coco but then 2 minutes later calling him N word? Sounds like BS
@masavoy02284 жыл бұрын
Koko is black....
@harshtruth50033 жыл бұрын
Something tells me a tag team like bill Dundee and ric flair would have been like oil and water or fire and water.
@rict58785 жыл бұрын
Flair' s matches were predictable, I'll give him that but the man could chain wrestle with the best when he wanted to.
@ptothej1004 жыл бұрын
Flair was a heel. Heels didn’t do high spots in the territory days. It was the NWA world champion’s job to make the local champ look good and almost lose the title. Flair did the same basic match from mid 80s on because wrestling changed. It moved from storytelling to high spots and power moves. Think about it, Flair had the same match so that his opponent could fit in his high spots and/or power moves. Flair put guys over.....even when he won. Sting, Lex Luger, Nikita Koloff Vader.....and others. He sold like crazy and took great bumps. Flair allowed them to showcase their moves and take 70% of the match. Find his matches in the 80s against guys that could really work. Flair wasn’t innovative and wasn’t an offensive wrestler for the most part. But look up Flair vs Brisco or Dory Funk jr. He could mat wrestle w/ finesse and style. Look up some of his matches in Japan. William Regal had some very good mat wrestling matches w/ Flair. He is one of the greatest technicians in the history of the sport. Sure, he did some goofy stuff. But so did Terry Funk and Harley Race. Why do they never get called out for repetitive matches and goofy high spots? When u trash a guy like Flair, it shows that u probably started watching wrestling in the 90s. Get a clue. I’ve seen him live in the 70s and early 80s. At house shows before he was NWA champ, I saw him do dropkicks, sunset flips, leap frog, cross body blocks and many other moves that he didn’t use as a heel world champ. Bill Dundee had a great mind for the business and was a solid worker, but he didn’t draw money like Flair. Memphis was not my cup of tea. 90% of the wrestling was brawling, so I guess that did make decent wrestlers like Dundee and Lawler stand out. Those guys can’t carry Flair’s jockstrap. Those clowns would have been in the 2nd match if they would have tried to make it in a REAL wrestling territory like Mid Atlantic Championship Wrestling.
@evanstore214 жыл бұрын
So, the story jerry jarret told when he had to switch the belt from jerry lawler to coco. He had to of meant bill Dundee.
@arkansasgreg5 жыл бұрын
"I was only over in Memphis but dislike Ric Flair."
@boognishthethird5 жыл бұрын
“If you’ve seen one Ric Flair match you’ve seen them all.” “If you’ve seen one Bill Dundee match you’ve seen one more than 99% of wrestling fans.”
@paulsilas90705 жыл бұрын
Dundee is a Memphis wrestling legend.
@FritziSchnitzel5 жыл бұрын
No. Any true fan of pro wrestling knows Dundee is one of the greats. Some guys just don't like each other. There is no need for fans to take it personal.
@MC-rf8sx4 жыл бұрын
Bill had it
@jasminejohnston51385 жыл бұрын
Dwarf Dundee hatin' on Slick Ric lol
@30907bng5 жыл бұрын
Who's this little guy with the dark hair?
@aaajimmyb74723 жыл бұрын
Wow another amazing super great video info and analysis from absolutely the best channel on KZbin. Bill dundee sounds a little jealous and I think at only 5 ' 1" tall bill exaggerated this story to try to pretend he's like 6 ' 4 tall..Mr dundee sounds like he took one to many chairs shot and knows ric flair and Jerry Lawler was 1000 x the draw that little Billy was and he knows it . Thank you and keep up the good work
@knightfall2095 жыл бұрын
Interview his kid that dude is insane pg-13
@trademarktraining5 жыл бұрын
Please.. did this guy really ever draw outside of memphis?
@hezamachine5 жыл бұрын
He was a mid card wrestler. His size held him back. He's 5'7". He did booking in Mid South for Bill Watts. He would leave Memphis when he had a job elsewhere. By doing that he kept himself strong in Memphis. He just turned 75 years old and still wrestles sporadically.
@imafreakinhistorian21695 жыл бұрын
Tiger supporter0848 - He Drew very well every where he went, Central States, Bull Dog Brower Put him over for their title, Florida, the grahams would give him the book, and he'd perform and get heat as single, and manage teams. He was in at least 1 starcade , 2 Crockett cups, once with Buddy Landell, and 1 with The Barbarian , AWA World Tag Champ did it at the request of Vergn Ganya , US Jr Title in Mobile Territory, champions there more than once, sell out Dallas, with Eric Embry, John Tatum, and Jerry Lawler. Made over half million dollars in Mid south with Bill Watts. I'd say he drew.
@trademarktraining5 жыл бұрын
@@imafreakinhistorian2169 Dont get me wrong, he definitely made a name for himself. I remember him showing up now and then on mid-Atlantic cards. But imo he was never THE draw. A piece of the puzzle? For sure. A partner/opponent for Jerry Lawler, absolutely. But it's just my opinion that he was a cog rather than the machine itself. And as for him booking, Memphis booking to me was everything that was cheesy from the late 70's early 80s. The Mummy? Baby Diaper matches? It was all to appeal to that particular fan base and would not have worked in many territories. Again, just my opinion. I love my old school NWA guys, but this dude has always been overrated to me. Still, great historical points, good to see another old school fan.
@imafreakinhistorian21695 жыл бұрын
@@trademarktraining Love the old school, never liked the cartoon stuff neither. Flair "IS" the GOAT. But , Bill has a point, somewhere in the 90's Flair's matches did start to look a lot alike. Superstar's matches against Billy Robinson, Nelson Royal, Bockwinkel, were awesome, I was so mad when Ko Ko beat Dundee for the title shot with Flair, I think they would have had a great match. They were both heels at the time, so maybe not, but I wanted to see them exchange holds, and wrestle. Don't forget, the man is 5'7", took a lot of determination and skill to get himself into a business dominated by strength and size.
@ricksanchez24253 ай бұрын
Flairs a clown
@sandranapier37415 жыл бұрын
Age hasn't been kind.
@Millwall774 жыл бұрын
Well, he is in his 70s....
@thechad71715 жыл бұрын
hes 75 and still wrestling why prob beacause hes broke
@TheHannibalTV5 жыл бұрын
He's actually not broke he just doesn't want to turn down money offers for him to wrestle and he enjoys wrestling.
@imafreakinhistorian21695 жыл бұрын
Bill's got money older than most people that know what youtube is.
@MrBluefunk44 жыл бұрын
I knew Flair had some racism in him
@richardcclark36965 жыл бұрын
But yet he sold out more places then bill and made more money then he did
@TheHannibalTV5 жыл бұрын
Yes but Bill is probably in a lot less debt then Ric these days who has well documented massive debts from decades of overspending, numerous divorces and failure to properly pay taxes among other reasons.