Bill Maher on Obesity Being Treated as a Disease

Taken from JRE #2029 w/Bill Maher:
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[@failedstates5315]

Im about 40 pounds over weight. Its because what i put in my face late at night. Not some disease.

[@robinjoy2789]

I've been thin my whole life and when my best friend of 20 yrs got obese I believed her when she said it was from her poly cystic ovarian syndrome. Later down the road when she lost weight she finally confessed to my dumb ass she lied. She has PCOS. She was also just around family and a new bf that over ate constantly. I felt ignorant and betrayed. Lol

[@tishie42]

​@@robinjoy2789whoa. Reading that made me remember being gaslighted by an addict. There has to be an addictive force to it, to do life threatening harm despite knowing it's harmful. Interesting.

[@lxcas1123]

why did you put that in your face?

[@jullage]

@@lxcas1123I think to eat it fella

[@outlander234]

And what's quite shocking is they dont tell people whats actually happening. The diet rich in simple carbs and sugars messes up gut flora and neurochemicals which all makes you just crave more junk food in turn making dopamine even more depleted and making you eat more and more to get same stimulation. Eating disorder has more to do with this dopamine mechanism than counting calories. Diet rich in fruit and veggies and protein will make losing weight much more easier since it will rebalance the brain and eliminate these cravings.

[@SilentRONIN26]

Joe and Bill taking the piss out of James Corden is always fun to hear.

[@DuckYou69]

No one likes that dude

[@harryfranklin1263]

Without defending the entirety of James Corden's public persona and career, Bill Maher has continually mischaracterized the point James Corden was making against him. Corden said that the obesity epidemic is absolutely a serious health crisis but that bullying and fat-shaming people aren't the ways to solve it and could actually increase obesity by causing depression, leading to self-destructive habits like overeating. Whether you agree with his point, he was not claiming that being obese wasn't unhealthy or that people's life choices couldn't affect their weight and health. Maher either didn't watch Corden's response or is willfully misinterpreting it because he has repeatedly said that James was making points that he explicitly stated the opposite of.

[@masterofallgoons]

@@harryfranklin1263 - exactly

[@romanmax8561]

Where is this data that being fat and disease being sick have anything to do with each other that's all bullshit being fat is mostly genetic and living long is mostly genetic don't let them fool you these are just Pharmaceutical companies trying to push pills on people and also the exercise industry you think they're going to tell you the truth nope there's no money in that

[@gstephenson9442]

It is funny being British and having more common ground with Joe and Bill than that arsehole

[@hiren8325]

Normal people: It’s not a disease. Stop it. Drug companies: It’s a disease. We can help you.

[@NonZeroProbability]

Exactly

[@BenetbenetLive]

People buying drugs because they are lazy. It’s a fair exchange in my opinion

[@lizkleinknecht6980]

If you know anything about eating disorders like binge eating disorder it's often rooted in psychological issues. That doesn't make it any less relevant. Normal people don't exist. If you're referring to people on here I think I see a lot of people who don't understand addiction.

[@whatisthishandlegarbage]

It is a disease. As a psych student and also an addict I can assure you it is a diseaase lol

[@AmmoGus1]

Okay so is type 2 diabetes not a disease then? It's just what happens when you eat too much sugar right?

[@Pechanni]

Never been overweight, but I’ve had other problems where doctors just offered me pills rather than helping me address the root cause. I strongly declined. Respect for you guys who are also taking responsibility for your situation!

[@bengalslash]

How do you address the root cause of primary hypertension?

[@holdensagan]

@@bengalslash Is this guy supposed to be your personal search engine? Look it up.

[@holdensagan]

Doctors make me sick. Irony, eh? But you can't question them because they're beyond reproach due to the occasional saving of a life. What a racket.

[@virn333]

​@@holdensaganyou have single digit iq

[@FPOPGaming]

Yeah! I don't need medication for my schizophrenia! Just help me find the root cause!

[@readingfcdec]

I was obese for my whole adult life. lost 100lbs and now have a healthy bmi. It's discipline, diet and exercise and I was fat because of my choices

[@purerage7963]

I was very skinny but active in high school, and gained "only" 50 lbs in a few years because of constant stress-eating in university. It absolutely made me more lethargic, unhealthy, and unconfident. The more weight I lose, the happier I am. There's a direct correlation there. And even if you have a genetic disposition to obesity and related illnesses like I do, it's no excuse to avoid being healthy. *Very* few people are genuinely unable to stay healthy; the majority just can't get to that point (like me for most of my past weight loss attempts). Personal responsibility is key. Somehow the anti-bullying movement went from "don't tell people to off themselves for being fat, just be polite" to "obesity is actually good and you're a narrow-minded, racist bigot for daring to think otherwise". It's another example of weaponized empathy, and it's genuinely leading people who don't know any better to quicker deaths.

[@anthonystevens7594]

I’m similar, I’ve been between at roughly 155 for last five years but before that my weight fluctuated my entire life. At my heaviest I was pushing 320 lbs and it was entirely from binge eating and beer.

[@cben99x]

BMI is not a good judgment of health. But congrats otherwise mate! 100 pounds is like a whole nother person!

[@SonGokuuuuuuu]

Intermittent fasting is literally a cheat code. Anyone who doesn’t do it is dumb

[@captaininsano2777]

Same here. Was 310 lbs. Down to 205. Feel way way better . Discipline does wonders😊

[@shaneroberts2492]

Calling it a disease is an easy way for people to avoid the responsibility of actually having to take care of themselves!!

[@tech1238]

Exactly

[@jonboatmorava9115]

Just like drug addicts and alcoholics

[@gregh7400]

I agree. For alcoholics, just drink less or stop drinking and your problems will be over. I mean I've never been an alcoholic but it must be easy to fix, right?

[@shaneroberts2492]

Yea because over eating and under exercising is exactly comparable to being an alcoholic or addicted to opioids 🙄

[@EverettBurger]

Calling it a disease means that they can sell you a pill to cure it

[@ColonelCorson]

I stopped drinking soda back in March of 2022 and started exercising regularly in July of that year, I went from being obese at 298lbs down to 185lbs and not being overweight for the first time in my adult life. Diet and exercise makes all the difference.

[@usaman7358]

You must have been drinking a TON of soda if that's the main change. Exercise doesn't really burn all that many calories. Surely you did more than that to lose that much weight?

[@KitchenerLeslieGirlfrien-bv2mm]

I have a hard time with the soda. Good job.

[@KitchenerLeslieGirlfrien-bv2mm]

@@usaman7358 bruh.

[@stanschmenge1965]

You nailed it “diet” soda too, I bet. That shit is poison, I think aspertame causes you to retain fluid’s. Adding the word “diet” to anything doesn’t mean it’s good for you.

[@yo25999]

@@usaman73581 can of coke is 140 calories. Lets say someone drinks about 5 cans worth of coke thats a 700 calorie deficit if you cut it out.

[@HayesJC]

Totally agree. As a fat person trying to change my lifestyle and body. Lost 1.5” off my waist and 1” off my chest to far but only down 4 lbs. trying to focus on the fat, not the weight seems to be the critical thing I am finding I need to focus on.

[@burtknighten4438]

Good job buddy. Keep it up

[@ec1628]

Might be gaining muscle. That’s why you might be losing inches but not that much weight.

[@raybobhere]

Lookup carnivore diet.

[@makatron]

You got it, just stay disciplined and in one year time you'll be a whole new person. 🎉

[@aulex4822]

Good stuff, losing weight is relative, losing fat is a great goal.

[@J.D.Mc.]

As a man who lost 100lbs and i feel EXCELLENT. I finally got tired of looking and feeling like 💩 and decided to do something about it for myself.

[@knowledgezealot]

Good on you man .

[@joshua5871]

Well done, king

[@seekiwanis]

Good shit man🙌🏾

[@TheSnerggly]

INCREDIBLE! :)

[@TheHopetown]

F yes way to be!

[@dallasryder8125]

I’ve been physically active since a kid. When I hear people say”I don’t workout” shit blows my mind. Not just for health but mentally. Shits wild

[@rexrocker1268]

Some of us just get tired of it. I was a varsity athlete freshman to senior year in highschool all the Xcountry indoor and outdoor track. But some of us get sick of it. Then we work out again years and years later and realize it’s cool when it’s not a competition. But some of us say eff it.

[@Farnsworth11]

You can be physically active without "working out" it's wild.

[@dallasryder8125]

@@Farnsworth11 That's crazy....

[@danpartridge8584]

Two years ago, my A1C was 5.8 and my doc offered to put me on medication right away to manage it. I refused, cut out carbs, returned 8 months later having lost 50 lbs. Now my A1C is 5.3 and back in the normal range. I love my doctor -- been going to her for decades -- but her eagerness to just throw pills at the issue made me smarten the fuck up and change my ways.

[@tyrfree5733]

Yeah your A1C didn't call for medication at ALL. You can diet and exercise that right down. Also you gotta make sure your thyroid is ok. Hypothyroidism will bring your A1C and cholesterol RIGHT UP.

[@danpartridge8584]

@@tyrfree5733 I've been lucky. Cholesterol has always been decent. Here's to hoping there aren't any statins in my future 🤞

[@talalkhalid2920]

Damn you're smart. I had similar issues. Doctors are always trying to fix symptoms with pills

[@samuellindsey6379]

Way to go on you!! You fixed the root of the problem. It’s fucking wild now that anything that is seen as “off/ odd” we just throw a pill at.

[@bryanwagner289]

In any profession there will be good and bad people, some of those bad people might push medications to get kickbacks. You can say that’s an issue but what also should be addressed is human nature. Another reason doctors are so quick to prescribe medications over diet/exercise is because statistically, their patients won’t diet/exercise and make the necessary life changes so it’s safer for them to prescribe medication. Good for you though bro doing it the right way.

[@RevonChaoz]

I've lost 80 pounds the last year and he's right about the poop thing.😂 My whole digestive system works so much better in general. It's mainly the healthy diet though I'm sure.

[@starllama2149]

80?! That’s insane dude well done

[@theearlybird365]

Congrats🎉🎉🎉 I wish you evelasting health❤

[@michaeldemarco899]

It’s also because a lot of the central fat which pushes your intestines and organs around is gone so your system works a lot better. This has happened to me both times I lost 90 lbs.

[@fieldfairy9845]

Congratulations on the hard work buddy! It can be really tough keeping your self-discipline at its highest level 24/7, but it’s absolutely worth it. I just went through a big weight loss as well and my digestive system is infinitely better!

[@TheNinjaStuff]

80 pounds in a year - that's fucking awesome. 👊 I'm sure you don't need anybody to say it, in order for you to know that you should be proud of yourself... But we're going to.

[@RareAirTwo4]

I'm a former morbidly obese 340lb depressed and suicidal teen, and at no point did I have a "disease". I had underlying psychological trauma from living in a 'chaotic' home and nearly daily bullying in school. I self medicated by over eating, until I became unrecognizable. One day I woke up, sick and tired of being an undisciplined whale and decided to change my life. In 2 years I lost 160lbs and transformed myself physically, and healed myself from anxiety and depression. All it took was daily consistent exercise, counting calories and patience for the weight to come off. Unless you have a thyroid issue, if you're obese it's because you over consume food, you are not burdened with a 'disease'.

[@mikecounsell]

Massive respect . Keep it up, don’t ever stop grinding . 👍👊

[@KingNiros]

Nailed it! Also, great job! Wish you the best.

[@pointlessmanatee]

well according to google the definition of disease is "a disorder of structure or function in a human, animal, or plant, especially one that has a known cause and a distinctive group of symptoms, signs, or anatomical changes." which I kind of feel like that sounds like obesity. I mean obesity is a disorder of function in human beings, the function being things like not dying of heart disease, seeing your own dick when you look down, etc etc. I don't really see any problem with calling it a disease, no one ever said disease had to come from bacteria or something. Anyway it's all just semantics for fun I'm not being super serious right now.

[@KingNiros]

@@pointlessmanatee "according to Google." Obesity is not a "disorder" of function. The function of weight control is fine, the eating bad food or too much is the issue. AKA: the function was fine until the person pushed the function past it's breaking point by their choices.

[@TheMattj88]

Real talk, stay strong and good for you!

[@mtcoorscan]

You can't dismiss the mass influx of cheap, processed foods into the American diet and that effect over the last 30-40 years (especially combined with middle class wage reduction). Not that they support the disease theory; but definitely the addictive aspect. Add to this that Philip Morris and RJ Reynolds own most of it, and it makes total sense why people are addicted to it.

[@willyjf6193]

its insane. Just walking down the Isles is like all junk food. My diet consist of meat, veggies and juices. Idk how people eat all that other shit. Soda Included.

[@BCNeil]

Or the people that need a cup of ranch dressing to be used as a dip, for anytime they eat vegetables or even chicken.

[@stoptrackingourdata8158]

​@@willyjf6193 Some juices are comparable to soda in terms of sugar content, and not all of it is natural. Be careful with your choices in that category. I just eat fruit and drink water instead.

[@TheCrazyCanuck420]

I think the fast food industry has a lot to do with that, all the food that's bad for you benefited from economies of scale and the population chubbed up with them. Now nutritional food is often expensive, whereas the crap clogging up our hearts is super cheap. That's why the poor are disproportionately fatter than most others, they simply can't afford to eat healthy.

[@mtcoorscan]

@@BCNeil As I said, those "people" started with the ranch dip as kids 25 years ago. It's only become worse from there.

[@JoJoJoker]

Labeling addiction as a disease increases the ability for doctors to bill insurance companies for the treatment. They are less likely to cover care for psychological conditions.

[@ChuckwaldMartin]

the best treatment is caloric deficit lol

[@charlottehammond8975]

i just said the same thing about obesity. agree totally

[@Canadian_Eh_I]

Thank god I found a smart comment

[@ForOrAgainstUs]

Yep. It's a technicality.

[@PhonkEcho]

Funny thing is that all this shit is happening only in America, Canada and Australia. No one else caters to the feelings of woke victimhood like US does Slut shaming, weight shaming, entertaining childhood transitions of kids, kids shutting down teachers/professors for microaggressions, weird sexual books for really young kids, laws against deadnaming, Pride month with extremely lude public acts -all American ideas. This empire will collapse just like the Roman empire did

[@brodure30]

I’ve recently lost 120 pounds and Joe is right if anyone is trying to lose weight it’s definitely not easy but if you train your mind and work hard at it just like anything else in this world it is more than doable. Granted I do understand some people have reasons for weight gain and loss, so that is understandable…

[@theearlybird365]

Wow 120! That takes a lot of fortitude. I don't know you but I am proud of you. May good health be upon you for all your days 🎉❤

[@HughJassole420]

Keep it up big dawg I'm currently at the gym trying to get back down to my healthy weight. At one point I had lost 200 pounds and I unfortunately put about 80 back on but it's doable and your goal is something you will achieve if you just stick to it and stay motivated!

[@jujutrini8412]

But that is PRECISELY the problem. You have to train your mind! People who have mental problems and are dealing with things like childhood abuse, SA, ptsd, etc find it hard to train their mind! Most of the fight is mental because I do believe most people now know that they are doing the wrong things to get to a healthy weight.

[@robynpayne9448]

I feel like there’s a switch that has to go off, that makes the threat of future disappointment stronger than the desire for immediate satisfaction. I still haven’t found it.

[@brodure30]

I agree with everyone 100%… when it comes to health it’s not a sprint it’s a marathon and people forget that sometimes, and it comes in all parts of your life, menatal, physical,emotional,and trying to be as stress free as one can, witch is not an easy task these days lol…I appreciate all the support and hope everyone is living to their fullest and enjoying all that life has to offer…

[@OnTourWithPattiSmith]

My mother always says, “nobody ever got fat because they ate too much broccoli.” 💯

[@OnTourWithPattiSmith]

@adeptisthebest Eat more fiber.

[@thatdudeuhate6649]

If the add a lot of butter and cheese they can 😂😂

[@thatdudeuhate6649]

Brocolli is was more affordable. I got a big bag of it for about 2.30@adeptisthebest

[@daniellogansa8101]

Eating too many calories of anything will cause weight gain

[@user-cp9id1mj8b]

@adeptisthebestI can make you Brocolli with a garlic/soy glaze and trust me you WILL ask for seconds

[@musicjunkie274]

The fact that Tess Holliday went on a press tour saying she was anorexic as a morbidly obese woman and never had any serious pushback shows how far down the rabbit hole we’ve gone with this

[@frankie9953]

seriously?? wtACTUALf

[@SteadySteppin]

lol

[@ASDFGHJKL12345-i]

i think she had pushback from every internet comment anyone ever made about it, just not the TV show hosts who are basically just actors anyway

[@funnyyellowdog8833]

Anorexia doesn't have to lead to malnutrition. It only means that you're throwing up your food regularly out of shame over your body, which is a psychological problem no matter how you objectively look.

[@ASDFGHJKL12345-i]

@@funnyyellowdog8833 that's called bulimia lol anorexia is just not eating

[@HeadtoTailBBQCooking]

I used to be 313lbs and guess what. I stopped eating as much and eating better. And wouldn’t you know I lost over 100lbs and kept it off.

[@buckyes6749]

Nice work! I was 325 and now 182

[@HeadtoTailBBQCooking]

@@buckyes6749 awesome! I am at 196. But I still want to drop down some more.

[@TheCrazyCanuck420]

295-->205, I went with intermittent fasting and now I going back to small meals to spread those calories out more. Getting your stomach to shrink helps a lot, so start slow and stick with it works wonders.

[@HeadtoTailBBQCooking]

@@TheCrazyCanuck420 that is great! I have done intermittent fasting as well. It worked great for me.

[@OMAR-vk9pi]

It’s way more complex than your little brain can handle but yes eating less and moving more is the general rule to weight loss

[@josejr.garcia2228]

I’ve lost 90lbs overall. I go up and down but I’ve kept most of it off. It is hard. I’ve been overweight my whole life and it sucks. I know it sucks and it’s still hard to stay disciplined with diet and exercise. You have to change your lifestyle. People think they can diet , lose weight, and then go back to how they were eating and living. It don’t work that way. It has to be a permanent change.

[@coryhimmelspach1101]

​@cameltoelicker-rv6poyes they do. Seen it everyday. Guys lose a bunch of weight and gain it all back after 6 months and seem shocked. People aren't smart

[@thierryaubin1923]

Its definitly a public health issue requiring a public solution. Id be all for banning transformed sugar in the country.

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

@cameltoelicker-rv6po Ask anybody obese they want to stay or get fit again. There is none who would not go back but can´t

[@gghut2381]

I was 360 lbs and it was no one’s fault but my own. I was depressed, not exercising and had atrocious eating habits. Since I’ve changed my lifestyle to exercise almost every day and a 2000 calorie high protein diet I’ve lost 75 lbs and hope to lose 60 more. It’s all up to you. Either deal with how hard it is to exercise and diet or deal with how hard it is being morbidly obese and all the related health problems.

[@futures2247]

The food landscape is poisoned with UPF - try reading Ultra Processed People by Chris VanTulleken.

[@killerbeemahnya]

Exactly! Its simple but not easy. Good luck on your journey

[@libertybelllocks7476]

Choose your hard

[@ald.3387]

The amount of fat people actually blaming others for their predicament is low. With the extremes being used as talking points. What if you were forced to do what you did? What if you had economic or social constraints put on you because of your weight? That's the direction these two assholes want to steer the Country.

[@ganggang6146]

depressions isn't real it's called playing the victim card. this comment proves this

[@buckyes6749]

Joe and his guests have taught me a lot about how to lose weight. I have lost 145 pounds from my heaviest. If I could have learned about intermittent fasting ( from Joes podcast) earlier in life it would not have taken me so many years. I am down to my Jr high wrestling weight now and have drastically reduced my diabetes. You gotta move your body every day and stick with one meal. Doesn’t work for everyone - but it worked for me. I am 56

[@Ithinkthereforeimright]

I think it works for almost everyone that actually sticks with it, like you did. Thyroid and other complications are very rare.

[@4gottencrackaz]

Congrats on all that success! 👍

[@kitty10141]

Good for you!! Put work in get results out

[@grace1081]

Which podcast was that?

[@jerrodbates8480]

Hell yea that's great! You from ohio?

[@MaliciousMalcontent]

I would argue that in places like the US it is far more difficult to maintain a healthy weight due to their horrific food regulations where the stuff you get from a store is rancid oils covered with high fructose corn syrup and petroleum derived colouring agents. It's not that it's not good for you, it's actively toxic.

[@Waywardbiscuit]

and you would be wrong

[@IrepDoubleurmax]

@@Waywardbiscuithow so. I am not an expert but I have family overseas and they complain whenever they come here abt everything the OP of this comment said

[@nerdanalog1707]

in addition the US was built for cars. In many places, people can't do anything walking distance and are forced to use a vehicle.

[@gregthomson2299]

And it so much harder for me because of genetics! Sad to hear that it’s so hard to eat healthily in the US and to not be able to find anywhere to walk either. That must be the reasons why eating more calories than you burn off occurs so much in the country. Not saying it’s easy, but people are dancing round the main problems, over eating of unhealthy food and lack of exercise. imo.

[@stoptrackingourdata8158]

@@IrepDoubleurmax Just don't buy that stuff. All of the food that doesn't have that junk in it is just as available as the junk food at grocery stores. People make the decision to walk past fresh vegetables and buy junk every day. That's on them.

[@sowhatdidithink4205]

I'm in Ireland and I am on Ozempic as there is a long history of type 2 diabetes in my family, I also have MS so exercise is draining and even though I was walking 6 km a day , my weight was ballooning ....hit 20st my doctor put me on Ozempic as my Blood sugar levels were through the roof. Since I was on it , I have lost two stone and last year I had to have Brain surgery , the doctors came to me and asked me why did my charts say I was diabetic? As My blood sugar levels in the pre op tests now read normal ....Doctors then told me the problem is now that I'm on it , I have to stay on it to keep my blood sugar under control...now with everyone taking it to lose weight , it's becoming incredibly difficult for pharmacies to get enough for those of us on prescription.

[@EmeraldDuchess]

I have battled weight my entire life. The “sick” part of that is that it almost always LEARNED BEHAVIORS. Food was my drug, my coping mechanism. It was how I numbed out. In my 30’s, I allowed my 5’3 frame to get to 306lbs. I no longer struggle and HOW doesn’t matter nor is anyone’s business, the point is, while I feel it IS an illness of some kind, teaching people they “can’t help it” is dangerous and it’s not helping anyone.

[@matth844]

They also purposefully put ingredients in food to make it addictive. Glad you changed your life and health.

[@DirtySouthMouth]

The behavior of overeating in some people has literally hijacked the brains reward system and is by strict definition a disease. People without addictive issues or with natural high metabolisms often have zero empathy for these people as you can tell by this comment section. I totally agree with you, it's not healthy but it isn't an excuse to crap on people.

[@Hoodiism]

Are successful in getting your weight down ? If so, what helped ?

[@crystalm2827]

I kind of agree with you. How I look at obesity is that its a "result" of a disease. The disease in my opinion is an eating disorder. A lot of people may disagree but I believe that majority of individuals that fall into the category of being obese have an unhealthy/unmanaged relationship with food. Any rational person wouldn't sit back and tell an anorexic person to "just eat more" or an alcoholic to "just don't drink" or "just control yourself and drink less". Most people can look past themselves and understand that statements like that are absurdly ignorant because even though they may have a healthy relationship with food or alcohol that's not the reality of someone with a disease in the form of an eating disorder or addiction. Like anorexia and alcoholism change and a healthier mind and body is possible for someone with an eating disorder that has resulted in their body being obese. But it will require a strong commitment to rehabilitation.

[@mitchy3438]

It’s not a sickness or a disorder. It’s an addiction and people struggle mightily with self control. It taste good so we eat it. Pleasure

[@jaimeflor4181]

I’m formerly 240 lbs and I’m currently 168 lbs. In 2017, I got down to welterweight. I’ve fluctuated in weight and anytime I’ve been overweight, it’s because of sugar intake, too much eating, eating before bedtime and a lack of exercise. I do have chronic pain, but eating better and walking a lot helps. I’m sure it’s different for some individuals, but I wasn’t about to accept my poor choices. Self acceptance is good, but it should never become a reason to not change for the better.

[@justind5726]

I lost over 200lbs (currently at a healthy weight of 165 at 6'-2") and I was able to do it with intermittent fasting/calorie counting and hitting 10k steps a day. I've kept the weight off for like 6 years now. I have very little to no stretch marks. Intermittent fasting is the way humans are designed to eat. Not 12 small meals BS.

[@ericb7937]

Congrats man! Keep it up!!

[@fishfood8719]

Sugar - carbohydrates cause inflammation. 2 knee , 1 elbow, 1 back surgery after 33 years at UPS. Went Keto, got back to my ideal weight quickly. Inflammation decreased substantially. I still keep my carbs super low and intermittent fast, but when I take occasional breaks during holidays and such, aches and pains return. Especially if I load up on the deserts and sweets.

[@Velot_]

Currently lost 137lbs. All it took was calorie counting, gym and steps. Are we really in a position now where medical professionals are questioning that that's the mechanism for fat loss?

[@LordMesa]

Eating before bed has nothing to do with it. Pure calories in calories out.

[@ducksauce0074]

My biggest regret is thinking a pill could help me lose weight. I was depressed. Then I gave myself a chance and start self auditing what Ive been doing. Slowly, things began to change. Sugar is my biggest weakness

[@franklyanogre00000]

Me too. It's tough. Stay strong! Eat more berries and fresh vegetables.

[@markzuckergecko621]

That's western culture for you, we're obsessed with trying to find an easy way to get the results that typically require hard work.

[@moonstrukk126]

Sugar is my nemesis...I try to eat a lot of protein, my sweets consist of Greek yogurt with stevia and berries and I use stevia in iced coffees etc. It has helped me not be miserable. I did keto but too much added dietary saturated fat is not ideal. I try to stick to leaner cuts of meat and veggies plus I do a fasting mimicking diet every month. It's totally doable, but I would be Leary of the people who claim their way is the only way. Sustainability is the only thing that really matters when health and weight loss/maintenance is your goal. If you can't do it consistently it won't work.

[@ChaswellQuint]

Don't get discouraged. There aren't shortcuts and you shouldn't short circuit your life either. Genetics and biological gender does play a part. What foods you can buy and how your work/life balance influences your schedule and options is only in your control in a limited way. Make good choices when you can, rely on an accountability partner of you struggle here. You are human.

[@outlander234]

If it makes you feel better, the depression you felt or are still feeling is really more connected to sugar(or as I will explain later) than to weight. For example I was never really fat, my heaviest was 210 pounds but I am quite built 6'1 guy so no one really looked at me as fat, more like just good build. But for other reasons I wanted to lose weight and I am down to 185 now but would you believe I had periods of depression at 185 I never felt when I was the heaviest. After watching various videos I connected the dots and yeah, my diet was heavy in simple carbs and sugars with very little veggies. It turns out the gut bacteria is essential for mental well being. I am back to eating saurkraut almost everyday, fruits and veggies everyday and improvement is already noticeable. Just the other day I bought pizza and icecream and boy did my mood drop after that was digested, the whole next day or two I felt it. Obviously its not the same for everyone but I feel like I have to go on extended periods of no junk foods to repair all the damage to gut and brain and re balance all these neurochemicals.

[@divinecomedian2]

It baffles me how Bill can have these lucid moments while at the same time having some of the absolute worst takes

[@tessa63627]

I think it's just intellectual dishonesty

[@marksimmons7972]

Yes, he contradicts himself constantly. He should watch a compilation of his own takes.

[@psrabe7444]

this was a terrible take though. He is complaining that people consider obesity a disease and that it's not considered not curable....Some diseases are curable Bill..... They later both agree that food addiction leads to obesity and food addiction is real...which is the disease...Bil Maher puts less than zero thought into his political views. Joe Rogan also puts zero but at least is intelligent enough to respond correctly when he hears nonsense.

[@sakethromps1170]

This is what happens when you take away their writers and now they have to rely on their tiny little brains to come up with their own thoughts

[@meauxcha]

Have you ever listened to Joe lol

[@Opalonia]

I love how bill is talking about health as he coughs from all the smoking

[@andrearoose5919]

And are his feet/shoes on Joe's table?!?!?!

[@lonerunner89]

😂😂😂

[@shawnsdr3406]

And he's built like a 70 year old 100lb lady.

[@musicjunkie274]

He’s not claiming his possible nicotine addiction is a disease and that we should have smoker positivity in this country. Big difference

[@anthonylemaster8691]

We found the the fat guy/girl watching

[@Morbid_Kustoms]

Kyle Dunnigan is getting spot on with his impressions, he even looks like Bill now .

[@len3169]

Bill doesn’t like Kyle.

[@CantTellYou]

@@len3169 Joe loooooves Kyle.... a little too much maybe

[@GuitarJawn]

Gotta get the moonies

[@notMelB]

Love Kyle

[@BuildLego]

Yeah but Klye says Ok alot

[@jerrynadler2883]

I was gonna skip exercise today, James Corden was just the motivation I needed.

[@Patrick4Gooner]

I put on about 20 kgs during the pandemic and weighed 120 kgs the heaviest I have ever been. Ate like shit and felt good when I ate because it coped with loneliness and depression. Now I am close to losing all that weight I gained thanks to training Muay Thai. Obesity is no damn disease it's a choice!

[@TrudyPatootie]

*In 1965 a girl in my class got a full scholarship to college because she was* *obese. Make that make sense?*

[@Tarheelhammer]

I believe Honey-nut Cheerios are key to a heart healthy diet!

[@mattschluter6666]

Keep it going! Nice work, it’s not easy but can be done!!

[@markzuckergecko621]

The first part is always the hardest. You've taken the first step, that's a big deal. Keep it going.

[@CANISLUPIS100]

Good on you, I was up to 340 and I'm currently at 230, keep up the good work, it's a lifestyle change more than anything for me.

[@ComedyClown]

Good stuff! I’m going through the opposite. I’m 40 pounds underweight and trying to cram in 2-3k calories a day. it’s a challenge. then working out to turn it into muscle mass.

[@hoofarted8709]

Wow!!!...30lbs in the past 2yrs!!!...keep it up and by 2027 you could be down to 180-200lbs and in shape:)

[@justintyme4690]

I'm 15 pounds overweight and I feel worse than when I wasn't

[@stevend481]

Isnt that normal

[@nio731]

Hey, it might be time to make a change.. you don’t have to dive full in, just start with not eating an two hours before bed and drink more water. Because you admitting to your own fault and consequences, should show you that you are ready for a change. Best of luck but you don’t need it, you can do it

[@chrisbotts8334]

The plus side is you’ll knock that off in no time by making a few small changes.

[@joseywales148]

No kidding - 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ Einstein

[@shawnsdr3406]

You sir are a great philosapher.

[@gvlacic21]

Fascinating point by joe near the end. It can be a disease and have a cure. Once you're aware of your habits and patterns, you can change them. Before you are, youre stuck in a loop.

[@CantTellYou]

Good point, if we label something one way it doesn’t mean we have an excuse to not doing anything about it

[@rebekah7635]

The comparison with alcoholism is interesting. I used to be in OA, not for overeating but more for anorexia. There is a 12 step method for eating disorders whether that leaves people over or underweight. They have like different approaches, some people are "grey sheet" (a specific diet printed on a grey sheet). One helpful thing for me was to talk about childhood trauma (hiding food in my room so my sister & I could eat regardless of drunk drama, police being at the house, whatever) and also just they have these wallet cards with steps to "12 step" a problem. So it can walk you through problem solving in a healthy way, so you're not eating at a problem or restricting at a problem or avoiding it, you just have a formula you can follow to make better decisions. It's not perfect but it did help me a lot. I still have the wallet card, I'll look at it like on the train during my commute sometimes before work to get my mindset right for the day. One interesting thing: a lot of 12 step meetings never went back to face-to-face after COVID. They're still like Zoom only. So you can't get the same connection of even being in a room with people with the same problem. People are still afraid to go back. It kind of sucks because that kind of face to face connection/support can be helpful.

[@Ayan-bp4dq]

What’s OA?

[@rebekah7635]

@@Ayan-bp4dq Overeaters Anonymous. It's a 12 step group for eating disorders, anorexics and bulimics go too

[@j3kfd9j]

I'm proud to have helped my own 12-step group (ACA) go back to in-person after being online-only for COVID. In the ACA-world, overeating is one of many, many techniques people use to avoid feeling what they don't want to, but need to, feel. Having a safe place to talk about your problems is one of the most beautiful and helpful things in the world. I agree it's not perfect - you need to make sure it's helpful for you, and make it your own - but it's been really positive for me.

[@Paul-vf2wl]

Are the 13th steppers still able to prey on vulnerable hot chicks on Zoom?

[@ghostwhite1648]

the biggest keyword..... TRAUMA.... we have yet to truly understand how WIDELY different we all respond to trauma.

[@Ch7oma]

As a proud 34 year old who has lost over 60kg in less than two years, I can confidently say working out and eating right is the best way to go. My confidence level is off the charts too!!! Haha I went from 141kg to 77kg by moving my fat ass around. I started from 30mins morning walks by 6am, to, today, an hour walk and an hour run from 4am-6am, everyday unless it rains. I didn't know I had it in me.

[@yonanz]

same here! morning walks/runs are the best. and its important to do it slow and gradually ramp up...! good on ya

[@Ch7oma]

@@yonanz yes!! Thank you!!!

[@ezekielonezero3955]

@chiomaokoroafor116 good for you i know how hard it is to lose that much weight and the sacrifises you make to achive that goal. proud of you

[@jawnzen8366]

Glad you put the cake down.

[@akf6815]

Keep going mate!👍

[@paulmckenney8096]

Glad you brought up food addiction. It's a thing, and needs to be talked about. If more people viewed their unhealthy eating habits as an addiction they might get turned around and lose some weight and improve their health.

[@laaaliiiluuu]

Not really. That's not how addiction works. I am addicted and it doesn't change anything about my addiction. On the contrary, it makes me feel even worse that I am addicted and that worse feeling makes me even more addicted in order to kill the mental pain that comes from the shame.

[@kutie216]

Isnt it ironic insurance companies can charge smokers more but not fat people? It pisses me off personally. Why should I pay more when I am healthy?!

[@Jim_exists77]

Food addiction isn't a thing. Food just tastes really good so it's very easy to over consume. I can have some sympathy for very overweight people because I do recognize that genetics plays a role in hunger hormones and how full someone feels after they eat. Same thing goes when people say they're addicted to sugar. No. No one is just sitting there eating table sugar. They're eating it in conjunction with fat/salt, and that combination tastes amazing. Incredibly enjoyable and easy to over consume is not the same as an addiction.

[@BusterDuglas]

Yup, my mom got my addicted to food at an early age. Been eating almost every day since

[@nr-dx4zz]

@JimShury you didn't do well in school I reckon

[@marshallj2415]

One meal a day and 30 minutes in the gym daily. Lost 50 lbs. in two years to 176. 60 years old. Looking fantastic!

[@grrinc]

Nice one

[@winstonsyme5899]

Great job.

[@perrycoffey5410]

I need to gain weight, 50 pounds underweight 5'9 at 112 actually lost 2 pounds wish i have your issue and the money how do you even have the money too weigh 170

[@TurokAgi]

​@@perrycoffey5410weight lift until ur sore. Try working out 3-4 times a week. It'll help activate ur hunger. And when ur sore, food will help u gain weight if u eat a lot. If ur not sore, idk if it'll work. It's a learning curve that I'm still working on. Gained a few pounds so far

[@TurokAgi]

​@@perrycoffey5410what im doing is. Upper body lifting, rest day, lower body lifting, rest day, upper body lifting, rest day, lower body lifting, rest day. I was doing upper body lifting, lower body lifting, then two or three rest days and it wasnt activating my hunger as much as it is now with just one rest day in between

[@coolkid12358]

If you are reading this comment please know that it is known how ozempic or any GLP-1 agonist works (as well as one can understood a newly developed medication). These medications (GLP-1 receptor agonists) mimic GLP-1 which is a naturally occurring hormone in your body that decreases glucagon secretion, and increase insulin secretion. They also slow gastric emptying and promote early satiety. To say it is not known how these medications work is disingenuous or ignorant at best. This is like medicine 101.

[@jevgenijsalunin9820]

Mechanism of Action: Glucagon-like peptide-1 (GLP-1) agonist Weight management: GLP-1 is a physiological regulator of appetite and caloric intake, and the GLP-1 receptor is present in several areas of the brain involved in appetite regulation

[@hershellumiere]

I hate how bill Maher assumes that we are all as dumb and ignorant as he is.

[@sd5919]

And I'm going to guess that the loss of muscle and connective tissue is due to people not eating enough due to lowered appetites, not because the drug is evil.

[@hershellumiere]

@@sd5919 it’s literally the deficits in macronutrients. The bodybuilding guys already figured this shit out.

[@johndeer1866]

Yeah I won’t call him out for being a liar but he is very mistaken if he thinks we don’t know why GLP-1 agonists work. This isn’t the 1800s where we throw shit at the wall and hope it sticks, now we make medications based on our understanding of physiology and the medications behave almost exactly as they were expected to.

[@jopo7996]

This guys Kyle Dunnigan impression is perfect.

[@colt4505]

😂

[@yashnigam6]

You’re wrong, okkaaaaaay

[@smashtoad]

Ha!

[@CoopCooper.]

Kyle does a more coherent Bill than Bill does.

[@redriver6541]

Bill's a good dude.......he's a true liberal. He's always been......he's just a "celebrity". They're all a little weird. That's okay though.

[@darkh0st]

Gastrointestinal issues are the #1 issues we see with this in the ED. It commonly occurs when folks start rapidly losing weight while continuing to increase their dose.

[@SaintMartins]

I lost close to 30 pounds in 2023. My secret ? Depression. You lose your appetite when you are depressed. So if you want to lose weight, stop taking your antidepressants.

[@MrGoodeats]

“Stop taking your antidepressants” do you just assume everyone is on anti depressants? 😂😂😂 no dude. Only mentally weak people can’t regulate themselves to the point of maintaining chemical balance. No it’s not natural no it’s not hereditary or genetic. Man up.

[@mzytryck]

I think the difference between the attitude to "alcoholism as a disease" and "obesity as a disease" is that with the former nobody's pretending that the solution isn't some variation of "find a way to stop drinking". With the latter, the activists don't want to have constructive and non-judgemental conversations about how you can develop the discipline to stop overeating and maintain an exercise regimen, they want to pretend that the eating and lack of exercise are completely separate from being unhealthily fat. If the fat acceptance brigade were saying things like "being mean to fat people is both cruel and doesn't help them lose weight, treat it like an addiction they can be supported through" I'd be behind them 100%. However, since they're acting as if there's no connection, their position is as ridiculous as it would be for Alcoholics Anonymous to say "failing livers and violently/humiliatingly losing control of our behaviour is just who we are, stop pretending it's got any connection to all the alcohol we keep drinking"

[@marlonmoncrieffe0728]

Ah, good point. It is just denial dressed up fancily.

[@giantsr1eva]

@mzytryck That is what the fat acceptance movement wants. It’s people like Bill Maher who lie about the movement for personal profit. Alcoholism is a choice while if you have a glandular problem, you don’t have a choice in being overweight. Genetics also play a role in determining what your body size is.

[@grandfury5609]

Stopped drinking beer and soda in November, since then I've lost 33lbs and have been in the best physical shape of my life, the simple disruption of alcohol abuse made me make poor food choices and crave fast food. I have become more discipline in what I eat and how I eat and exercise daily. People need discipline

[@giantsr1eva]

@@grandfury5609 I’ve always told people that if they want to lose weight then they have to drink fewer calories since food gets digested.

[@ernestotorres456]

They name it a “disease “ and push the narrative so these big power companies , can continue to sell us foods that are so harmful but make tons of profit on it and guess what when you need help with this “disease “ they sell you drugs that help with this “disease “ oh that didn’t work and now you got cancer ? Guess what we can make money from your health insurance and bill you on your health care .

[@carlariggs525]

part is genetic; part is sedentary lifestyle; part is geoengineering of food; part is addictions. the fact is we are a fat/obese society

[@daerovius7535]

Not really, you're a lazy fucks society... Keeping yuor weight at a healthy level is not that hard, when you're willing to take more than 30 seconds

[@WatchingWithMyEyesClosed]

Excuses excuses

[@Disneymagic24]

​@@WatchingWithMyEyesClosedit's not excuses. Many chronic disease and medications can make you gain weight

[@lelandshennett]

exactly it’s a lot of things. Honestly every time I got to the store I get a little depressed because everything is fucked, even the fruit and veggies

[@alexfortin7209]

In 40 years, US obesity went from 15.7% in 1970 to 38.8% in 2010 - nothing changed in our genes in 40 years.

[@smith9157]

Losing weight is like getting out of bad debt, doing the bare minimum and missing payments and it will snowball and get more difficult but if you make sacrifices and have discipline it will soon become second nature the new habits you have adopted

[@SC.7007]

I struggle with weight but found something that's working for me. It's scary how the medical industry is treating it as a disease. The best explanation I have heard is our bodies are smart and trying to keep us alive by always being hungry because the food we are eating is low in vitamins and nutrients. So our brains are always being triggered that we're hungry. Eat high nutritious, whole foods and we won't have the same cravings or desire for food like we do now. Our bodies are like a machine. Give it what it needs and it will function properly. I swear by this concept because it's working for me. Lost 50 lbs in 5 months. Without starving or undereating. I ate to satisfaction but chose foods high in a variety of vitamins and nutrients.

[@Shatamx]

Hope you are learning to love and respect yourself again man. That is the true first step in conquering obesity. Wishing you the best of luck in life.

[@nchevrea]

The medical industry is always looking for an angle to make a buck.

[@vladtepes9614]

I've lost 60 pounds since January of this year. The ONLY thing I changed was the quantity and quality of my food. No extra exercise was required. The key is consistency. If you remain at a daily calorie deficit for an extended period of time, you WILL lose weight.

[@vladtepes9614]

@@KAT-dg6el Then either you don't need to lose any weight or you have a medical condition.

[@sithraeil]

it's not a disease but it sure is an epidemic

[@FreeKekistann]

👏👏👏👏👏

[@kuryaku5906]

Fast food culture/prices isn't helping.

[@PhonkEcho]

Why hasn't it spread to Asia or Africa?

[@FreeKekistann]

@@kuryaku5906 Fast food is wrecking people. I walk my dog by a bakery every morning. Tons of obese people go in. No wonder. Lots of sugary/icing foods. Smells great. No way would I have the discipline to eat just 1, so i don’t even go in there. Those people must have a crazy level of addiction.

[@FreeKekistann]

@@PhonkEcho 😂👏👍

[@djjazzyjeff1232]

I'm a fat guy, and at the end of the day nobody did that to me but me.

[@lady4191]

You need to do some research into nutritional value in this country and why Americans are the fattest also did u know the food pyramid was a marketing plot to sell more (carbs)

[@stoptrackingourdata8158]

@@lady4191 None of that makes what the original comment stated incorrect. People make their own decisions when it comes to what they consume.

[@KD400_]

​​​@@stoptrackingourdata8158well OPs bio says that we must think like them otherwise they will be crushed lol

[@nunyabusiness3666]

I was also until I found Carnivore diet. Dropped 50 lbs and changed my life. I eat like a king also. It's amazing.

[@complex4059]

Burn more calories then you consume, it's that simple.

[@Mo.Jo.]

I was never super over weight, but i did need to lose about 45 lbs. I did that with keto -> fat adaptation, staying under my maintenance and also intermittent fasting all rolled into one. I did this during COVID lockdown and also strength trained at the same time. I was the leanest, strongest and the healthiest i've ever been. And one thing i can tell you, i'm a refined sugar CARBOHOLIC. The secret is discipline, lots and lots of discipline - even when every inch of your body and mind is telling you to eat that doughnut that'll cause you to snowball. It's absolutely a losing battle if you dont force yourself to be disciplined and not be "fun" by going out with friends for dinners and drinks.

[@kevinthomas5902]

The muscle loss comes from lack of exercise while in a deficit. The same thing would happen if you were off the drug

[@lukaszrumcajs6348]

Congrats of your weight loss, hope you will be able to maintain it for life :) I need to disagree with you though - discipline will never be the ultimate way to achieve life long goals. We are not made to stay super focused and disciplined overe anything for life - state of concentration and discipline is good for us for achievieng short-term goals, in terms of dieting it might be cutting weight for competition for example, but staying disciplined for life is simply tiring and drives you to break eventually. You need to find a way to stay healthy without forcing yourself to do so, otherwise it's gonna be a constant battle. Me - overweight whole life, at my 28 I realized I'm obese. Drinking too often and too much, doing drugs and eating for fun. It took me a year to go cut from 120kg jelly to 93kg lean, I looked amazing then, but It was a struggle - everyday hour or more cardio, strict calories counting, no going out for dinners and drinks with friends, strenght training 5 days a week. Now I'm 34, 103kg weight, still looks good, strong AF, 3 trainings a week, sometimes I eat junk-food, sometimes I drink, sometimes I do drugs, I do not count calories and I maintain body weight for 3 years now :)

[@georgeh2299]

So many people are overweight from just depression and/or whatever they are dealing with in their lives. just like people that drink too much. Its a way to feel good for a little bit. People that are fat know how to lose weight, but the drive is just gone or life has been just beating them down and eating makes them feel good. People are fat because they eat too much, but there are many understandable reasons it happens. Life isn't easy, i gained weight when my mom died. I just didn't care anymore, it took a while to find my way back to normal. Losing weight is easy once your mind is right, but getting to that point can be surprisingly tough.

[@johanswede8200]

You are wrong. So 50 years ago everybody was happy? 50 years ago most Americans cooked their own food from scratch... Now they don't. Instead they eat shit...They have no idea what is put in their food.

[@Promark1980]

empathy isnt allowed here, bucko. Go clean your room before having a point of view.

[@skechers28227]

Yeah man. It's like quitting smoking. It's not something you just do once and you're good. It's a continuous process. It's a mindset. But you have to want it. I used to smoke and I was overweight once. Both problems I fixed and continue to fix everyday through hard work and meditation.

[@IrepDoubleurmax]

I appreciate this point of view - good for u. I have a few people in my life struggling with their weight and they’re all amazing human beings and I’m rooting for them so hard

[@JillWrightNailTechEvent]

Several years ago my thyroid doctor had the balls to tell me that I’d lose weight “if I kept my head out of the feed bag”! I told him he was evil, but he said he was just being honest. Pissed me off so bad that for months I kept a food journal before putting anything into my mouth to keep my carbs, calories & fat grams under the prescribed amount. It was truly time consuming & such a struggle that I hated every second of that experience. When I saw him again I’d lost at least 30 pounds & he was super nice to me from then on. It sucked that he was right tho 🤔 Since then I’ve learned that eating closer to a keto lifestyle works better for me & it’s MUCH easier. Weight peeled off, plus the cravings for sugar & carbs went away once I stopped eating sugar & high carb foods.

[@chadgrov]

Anyone that tells a doctor they’re evil cuz you have a brittle spirit tells me that you are/were entirely in the wrong. Grow up

[@MusicalMemeology]

How can you think someone is evil for telling you basic facts?

[@joseywales148]

He was always nice- you’re just a baby

[@RedWolfenstein]

Sounds like a good doctor

[@haydenbicky9690]

​@@chadgrovHe was definitely in the wrong but he also recognized that and fixed the situation, your response is stupid. Some doctors are evil, like the entire opioid epidemic started by all the doctor's handing out pills like candy because they got kickbacks. Most doctors are good though.

[@TheWOLF1201]

Putting your shoes on the desk says everything about this mans character. 😂

[@KP-us5pq]

I work in health care and it is mind blowing how different we think about obesity. Obesity definitely causes so many diseases. But obesity in itself being a disease that needs medical attention and treated in a way that other disease are treated. I think we need to start being more honest to our patients.

[@heunderstandsnow7777]

Lies 😭 just put the food down 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@stayhuman7244]

It's the same as smoking cigarettes. It's a choice that leads to disease

[@jamesdelcol3701]

I let myself gain and it is several years later and I'm still fighting this thing that happens after 50. What a punch in the nose! I had to do lifestyle change, diet and put as much exercise and now the weight has been off a while. I really do feel great again. If someone would give me the time to fix my meniscus, I'd wrestle in the NY Empire State Games. The more weight the more cardio output I'm getting. If your prone like my Italian family is to type II diabetes start paying close attention in your 40's. Don't even let your career get in the way of your physical goals. You'll be playing catchup like me right now. And you'll never develop the issue at all if you keep your bodyfat low. Once you have obesity, it is a major uphill battle that I respect anyone who puts the effort into battling the problem. It is a personal war and as funny as these guys are, they want the best for America and their promoting and good health which is the most obvious thing we can all do to not get sick. I've been listening to David Goggins and I am getting motivated even though I'm injured. I'm going to train regardless of my injuries. Go easy where needed, but Goggins and his surgery stories put it in my head, that I can to a little more. And a little more. Until your injuries are not healed, but built up so much, you can still perform without major failure and surgery. I'm told I should get down to 5% bodyfat because I was once obese. Once you've reached obesity, your always going to have a problem unless you burn all the way down to 5% bodyfat and hold it there for 5 years. Bill has always had good health. Not much of a weight routine. Bill should lift some weights.

[@imageword5576]

I agree with everything you said except the 5% body fat part. I don't think it's healthy or realistically sustainable to get down to 5% body fat for 5 years, let alone for a month, regardless of how obese a person has been. I'm not sure who told you that, but it sounds way off to me.

[@michaelsmith9714]

Dude stop it. 5% is seriously unhealthy. Great motivation and determination but Goggins is next level. Truely I wish you a good path back to health. Training through injuries is ridiculously bad news. Look into swimming and sauna. Fasting. Go the Wim Hof route or Yogic breath work. Good luck Stranger

[@andrewbellinger6120]

For males anything under 17% bodyfat puts you at lower bodyfat than ~97% of the population. 12-15% is a very athletic and healthy look. As you start getting under 10-12% it starts getting miserable to maintain- most peoples testosterone starts dropping and cortisol starts spiking at this level of lean, and respiratory infections and colds start happening under 10%. There are some whose genetics allow them to sit at 10% or less consistently but for the non-genetically gifted anywhere between 12-15% is a good place to maintain and most women actually prefer the 15% aesthetic vs spidery veins bulging through leathery ab skin. 5% is freakish and most competition body builders will never hit an actual 5%. Below 7--8% and organ damage starts becoming a thing which is why body builders cut for shows and then bulk back up immediately after.

[@Apice.]

@@michaelsmith9714 Fasting has tremendous benefits and I've done it many times but it should be said it slows your metabolism down by a lot

[@critterdude311]

Dude, you realize professional bodybuilders on copious amounts of PEDs rarely get down to 5% body fat, and when they do it is for short spurts. That’s totally unreasonable goal especially for someone natural. 10-12% bodyfat is a reasonable and possibly sustainable goal. Time to recalibrate.

[@matthewbesson5367]

The conflation of disease and a state of affairs that is really hard to fix always puzzled me. I am an alcoholic I needed medical care to quit. It was hard to do, but the idea that I have a disease is just silly.

[@taristazin2073]

I'm NOT calling alcoholism or being overweight a mental illness. But, in most cases there is something going on emotionally/mentally/in the brain that is a strong contributor to the condition. But rarely a "disease" or "illness".

[@Ascended23]

To some extent it's really more of a question of "how do we use language here" than it is "who's right and who's wrong." You can be right that you didn't have a "disease" but if that's not the right word for a situation like yours, that required medical care to help address, what is? I don't think we have another word that's as simple as "disease" that's sufficiently appropriate. Along with the word comes connotations and an implication of what the correct approach is to address it. And just the feeling that by having given it a name, that one has some general idea of what to do about it as opposed to having no idea how to actually approach such a thorny problem.

[@Turbs89]

275lbs 6ft2 last year. Down to 195 now and a lot of that was muscle gained. Take care of yourself. The gym and good eating fixed like 80% of my problems in life.

[@EricDenton-ql3be]

Ozempic works by mimicking a naturally occurring hormone. As those hormone levels rise, the molecules go to your brain, telling it you're full. It also slows digestion by increasing the time it takes for food to leave the body. This is similar to the effect of bariatric surgery.

[@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13]

"Sounds like you've been hanging out in the hot tub with Bill Maher too much... You got a God shaped hole in your heart." Norm MacDonald (RIP)

[@josiffexplosiff1]

Just curious, what is God “shaped” like?

[@insomthegreat]

​@@josiffexplosiff1 Love

[@replexity]

@@josiffexplosiff1 The expression is to describe a void in the heart that yearns to be filled with spiritual transcendence

[@Nedflandersokilydokily]

Joe has a friend in every field and every topic

[@betsydaly1284]

I lost 85 lbs 13 years ago. Over that period I have gained about 10 back. I joined Food Addicts in Recovery. No flour, no sugar, no alcohol!! Yes, it's difficult, but there is NO easy way to lose weight. Sugar & flour products are addictive. Best thing I ever did for myself.

[@speakfreely.1776]

​@@MANsculinitythat's your opinion, and it's not an intelligent one.

[@betsydaly1284]

Just like an alcoholic, some people cannot have a little bit or a taste of anything sweet or orher binge foods. There is definitely such a thing as food addicts and I am one.

[@MsJanetWood]

🇲🇽 In order to combat childhood obesity, in 2018, Mexico passed a law banning cartoon mascots to promote junk food. So, if you go into a Mexican grocery store, you can still buy sugary cereals, cookies, and cakes, but there are no cartoons on the box. No Trix Rabbit. No Captain Crunch. Nothing,.

[@MsJanetWood]

I just found out something even crazier! In the Mexican states of Oaxaca and Tabasco, it is now illegal for anyone under the age of 18 to buy junk food!

[@realalexesparza]

I'm on Ozempic for diabetes. Been dealing with diabetes for about 22 years. Haven't been able to control it. Until 2 years ago. I went keto + veggies. Began to lose weight and lower A1c. But I lost the dam fight to food cravings. Those carbs are freaking hard to shake. So I ended up doing Omad. And it did work. But getting to the end of the day was rough. I ended up on Ozempic as a tool to help my cravings so I can make it to dinner. I eat once a day now, keto. Lost weight, A1c went from 14 to 6.7. The Ozempic did help. At some point, I'll see if I can wean off of it. Basically, Ozempic is a tool, not a full solution. You need to commit and have some balls to follow through with a regime of a good diet.

[@Ed_Lima777]

same here. Ozempic/Mounjaro saved my life. Lost almost 50 lbs.

[@deluxsound123]

Keto is a shit diet and goes into what you were just listening to about losing the wrong type of weight. Losing muscle mass is not good and that is exactly what Keto does. Only eating once a day is bad for your metabolism as well and that's why your susceptible to binge eating.

[@sd5919]

@@deluxsound123 Couldn't be more wrong. How does eating primarily protein and fat magically cause you to lose muscle mass? I benched 275 pounds on Keto.

[@kastelvetro1491]

you have a booze problem or used to, then you have a raw suger problem. a man that cant fight sugar cravings is a patheitc douche

[@channeling764]

Just have big nutritious breakfast and skip dinner. Dinner is a social construct that doesn’t benefits us, it benefits the restaurant industry.

[@lisettes.9598]

There is something wrong with the quality of our food here. Millions of anecdotes about people going to other countries and pigging out while losing weight only to come back to America, eating far less, and gaining all the weight back. Also, city and neighborhood planning in America has lost the ideals of creating a beautiful walking environment. It's just a bunch of shopping plazas with ugly, mismatched buildings in between. Every new building project is a bigger eyesore than the last. NYC used to be gorgeous. Grand Concourse in the Bronx was so gorgeous before the 70s

[@areallytallguy]

It’s literally calories in calories out. A calorie is a calorie throughout the world. “Pigging out” overseas just means you are eating more filling, calorically dense food.

[@fungus_am0nguz644]

Wait what? "Millions of anecdotes about people going to other countries and pigging out while losing weight only to come back to America, eating far less, and gaining all the weight back." is this a thing? damn, some of those people must be eating some REALLY shitty food then, ive been living in Europe for the past 10 years, in Spain 4 now and the quality of food here is not only great but is affordable and IT IS everywhere, like the norm, like you have to go OUT of your way to eat shit food here.

[@lisettes.9598]

@@areallytallguy that's not the whole story though. Many additives, hormones, pesticides, etc, are allowed in the US that are banned in other countries. The lack of nutrients in our foods is a problem. Our factory farm eggs have close to no nutritional value when compared to pasture raised eggs. Once I started taking bio available vitamins, my body dropped almost 10 pounds in less than a week and has maintained that weight with no other dietary or physical changes from me.

[@lisettes.9598]

@@fungus_am0nguz644 from what I've read, people have gorged on breads, cakes, etc on their trips, lost weight, came back to a far more moderate diet in america and gained it all back.

[@lelandshennett]

@@areallytallguyso cake and apples are the same? If it’s all calories in and calories out then it doesn’t matter WHAT you eat right? Obviously not

[@GoAsCloseAsYouCan]

Love when they agree about topics and this topic is so right on. Good on them.

[@alphabravo2722]

I've lost about 80-90 lbs over the past few years. It is one of the best things I've ever done. I feel so much better and have so much more energy each day. I was able to do this because I am in control of my body and what I put in it and how much I move it. Was losing this weight easy? No, but it is possible.

[@WeighedWilson]

When I was in my early twenties I went from 220 pounds down to 182 pounds in about 8 months. Down to 11% body fat. Every step along the way I would lose about 40% muscle to 60% fat. So out of that 38 pounds, over 15 pounds was muscle. I did it with weight training and 40-60 minutes of cardio daily and a strict diet. It is not possible to lose that much weight that fast without losing muscle too. I did get a lot stronger in the process.

[@TheHopetown]

I did the same, but I feel like I got weaker as I lost muscle. Went from 210 to 164 in 8 months now at 185 with some muscle back. It was a pleasure to focus on my daily weight and not worry when it fluctuated up and then down. Super easy to do you just have to want it!

[@guitarplaya903]

You’re doing it completely wrong. Eat protein and less carbs and stop all the cardio.

[@itsbuddyman8595]

dang, I'm 208 and want to get down to 180. I've been watching what I eat and trying to get walking around the block

[@WeighedWilson]

@@itsbuddyman8595 you can do it. It just might not be as fast.

[@nuckels188]

@@guitarplaya903 yeah just stop eating like a pig and you won't be fat. Insufficient protein and not working muscles will cause atrophy

[@SuperMontsta]

I went from 180 from ages 16-32, then slowly putting on weight until my most massive of 280 at 40, been dropping weight since and down to 200. It's definitely all about what you eat, how much, and exercise. Biggest factor for me was stopping all the running I did. (A car hit me in the knees, didn't walk without pain for a year). I took that excuse and kept it going for a good 8 years longer than I should have, all while eating more too.

[@cutehumor]

you are lucky. I went from 165 pounds in high school and to 252 pounds at age 42. My blood pressure skyrocketed and I had an eye stroke. I'm blind in my left eye which motivated me to lose weight down to 203.5 pounds. It's been 3.5 years since my wake up call.

[@JonathanGray_UK]

Congratulations, it's seriously not easy to lose it

[@JonKrueger]

The same is true of people who CHOOSE to abuse substances. Calling it a "disease" is frequently used to avoid responsibility for personal choices.

[@Karim-8055]

And it's a bit shameful because you know there are people with actual diseases that they cannot influence but otherwise they make good disciplined choices @JonKrueger

[@Steve197201]

I noticed that during times of my life when money was tight and I wasn't able to eat as much food, I lost weight effortlessly.

[@futureflowofficial]

nailed it. dealing with that rn losing weight easy and its not because I'm starving but because I have just what I need not all the extra shit. feel amazing health wise. the broke shit annoying tho xD

[@masterofallgoons]

Tends to be the opposite for a lot of people these days. Poor people can afford large amounts of very low quality food while decent, fresh, quality ingredients and meals are much more expensive. Obesity largely effects low income people in America today.

[@masterofallgoons]

@@KAT-dg6el - that's true, and they're poorly educated on nutrition.. but if you don't know what you're doing and don't have money it's easier for those people to buy large amounts of very unhealthy food than it is too buy smaller amount of expensive healthy foods. It's still a personal choice, but it can't be denied that that's a problem

[@crazybrain007]

Recently diagnosed with diabetes, I wasn’t not that big at 220 but I started on ozempic and changing my diet and lost about 20 lbs so far, it’s not a cure, but it does help. I started going to the gym too and it’s been amazing what results you see just a couple weeks in. I’ll cut my ozempic off as soon as I put my diabetes in control.

[@ninawildr4207]

Dr Ken Berry

[@Kenny-bw3qn]

Hopefully ozempic doesn't kill you before you can

[@yewtewbstew547]

@@Kenny-bw3qn Why even comment this? Just sounds like you're hoping it happens.

[@shawnsdr3406]

Ozempic is toxic like all prescription drugs. Works in the beginning and then destroys you from the inside out!

[@SWOTHDRA]

220 is huge.....you should be half of that

[@justicewinter5846]

I was 180 with beer belly and a liver full of alcohol when I turned 21. Turn my life around at 22 now I’m 180 full of muscle at 30. Took me forever because of injuries from Skating but Joe is one man I can always rely on for giving me motivation to be my best self. At the end of the day you can’t blame anyone else but yourself-keep body shaming a thing!! America needs it the most. It’s the best criticism we can offer to anyone who’s obese

[@TheHopetown]

I'm 59 still downhill skate with my boys from my youth, you are so young!

[@justicewinter5846]

@@TheHopetown Downhill skating is no joke man yolo :)) Be safe and keep shredding!! I actually enjoy bombing the hills here near LA mostly residential spots but it’s always a fun killer workout

[@ganggang6146]

dude drank for one year and thought he was an alcoholic hahahhhahahahahahahahahah

[@pinkjellybean6932]

I dont know you but I am proud of you man 🫡

[@Goodsales23]

I am with you up to the point where you say keep body shaming, maybe it works for some? I think education and treat it as a health issue. Show them where it leads and how much being fat sucks!! Also can we get the FDA to change their tune? They are telling my daughter it’s ok to eat a pound of cereal in the morning!! We laugh at the food pyramid and she eats good food, no junk and good carbs!!

[@Wisdomseeker1028]

The solution is rucking- walking with a weighted backpack. I added 13 pound weights to my backpack and i carry it everyday to work.. i have a 20 minute commute each way. So 40 minutes of walking daily, with a weighted bag. Builds stamina, strength, burns extra calories than walking alone, great for heart health

[@ilovepugs99]

I took Ozempic for 3 weeks and got very sick. It gave me horrible gastrointestinal issues. I was throwing up uncontrollably, going diarrhea all day and my food was not digesting. It was horrible! I'm not horribly overweight and not diabetic but my doctor prescribed it to me because I wanted to lose weight. Avoid at all costs!

[@paulinegallagher7821]

Its a diabetic drug, and should not be used by overweight people looking to lose a few

[@billyhw99]

What dosage?

[@kangarooninja2594]

I've lost over 100lbs 3 seperate times throughout the course of my many years long depression. It's not easy, but it's also not nearly as difficult as people tend to make it out to be. It's really about getting started and being able to accept the reality that you can change the course of your life. Depression makes change look as unattainable as winning the lottery.

[@vegasrob28]

The fact that you did it (had to do it) '3 separate times' proves its a disease. Or you can just blame it on depression.

[@amgianni849]

@@vegasrob28that in no way shape or form proves that it’s a disease are u serious lmao

[@lunarvision]

Depression helps some people lose weight. When I’m bummed out or especially dealing with relationship problems, I literally cannot eat.

[@vegasrob28]

@@amgianni849 why did he gain weight 3 times? Laziness?

[@amgianni849]

@@vegasrob28 yes

[@WhatDemocracy]

That cordan impression is officially the funniest thing Joe rogan has ever done.

[@cutlerj103]

It surprised me!!!

[@RamBear88]

Fat shaymeeng?

[@ShawarMoni]

Seconded only by the Queen of England impersonation

[@NoahTyG]

As a truck driver, I lost over 40 lbs 2 yrs, and tbh it’s all a mindset thing and how well you discipline yourself, because I started working out and ate a lot of subway, fruits and salads at the truck stops, I know it’s not the best choice of nutritional options but it was convenient for me. . I also cooked my meals on my truck too but I wish these truck stops had more variety of healthy foods us truck drivers can eat. . Because Wendy’s, McDonald’s, Burger King is not it

[@hanludoyle]

Thx for your service!! Doing important work.

[@adverseinperpetuity]

I lost 25 lbs over the past year just by diet and exercise and I feel incredible. I’m 5,10 and went from 205 to 180

[@misterwallace3479]

I'm 6'2". When I got out of the Air Force in 91', I weighted 195, in great shape. But I dropped to 179 with a lot of running and dieting. I felt awesome at that weight. I'd look like a skeleton of I got down to that weight now. I'm 230 and feel pretty damn good. Have never stopped working out.

[@firstlast8258]

@@misterwallace3479chair force

[@Negative--10-90]

I love it when Kyle Dunnigan is on JRE. Dudes hilarious

[@Rowsy91]

who

[@DDG683]

I got the reference😂

[@yashnigam6]

So many people are also extremely misinformed about what is healthy and unhealthy food. I was at a party recently with a lot of doctors in attendance, and they are all still convinced that meat and eggs are unhealthy and that people need to go plant-based.

[@thurgrum]

Working in the medical field for over a decade I learned Doctors are taught nothing about diet unless they study it on there own. The medical diet models that they are told to give are out dated by over thirty years, and all those studies have been debunked.

[@Waywardbiscuit]

no people are uniformed on how to manipulate food to fit their caloric needs. There is no set definition of healthy foods. There are high calorie and low calorie foods.

[@usaman7358]

Doctors are soooooooooooooooooo overrated.

[@annunakian8054]

Also the deceptive way they market food products. They put descriptions like "natural" or "low sodium" and "low sugar" on the labels but then the carbohydrates are high or there's harmful additives included. Not to mention how they make junk food seem fun, exciting, & cool in ads.

[@suprememarcus]

They must be brainwashing each other at these parties😂

[@firvantavan2793]

This is wrong. He is mixing with mysimba. They don't know why mysimba work, they absolutely know why ozempic works.

[@Beserious795]

I laughed so hard when he said, thoughtfully, “this would bother me….” 🤣🤣🤣

[@johnstrawb3521]

Meanwhile, why is fat only 'beautiful' on women? Feminists aren't running around telling us 5'-7" men weighing 300 lbs are beautiful, are 10s. Is it because only women will believe this nonsense, and the only people willing to fk fat women are other fat women?

[@LusterBrand]

It should...

[@jermz101]

🔥Been waiting on this second interview

[@danlowe8684]

The problem behind high fructose corn syrup is not its chemical makeup being much different than that of cane sugar. It is the low price. This is what drove the free refills on soft drinks that we see today. And this has made the unhealthy sugary products cost less and taste better - which leads to more consumption.

[@randykitchleburger2780]

Si sénor

[@KirisutonoNeko]

An artificially low price from government subsidies, if I’m not mistaken.

[@miguelsuarez-solis5027]

The disease aspect of this issue is addiction. Our food is poisoned and made to be addictive. 50 years ago our food was not poisoned

[@jdubo1998]

Not an excuses, learn self-control. I love Oreos and McDonald's, but guess what, I haven't bought either of them in over 5 years.

[@miguelsuarez-solis5027]

@jdubo1998 yes good for you and some people stop Crack cold turkey. Most can't

[@jdubo1998]

@@miguelsuarez-solis5027 I am talking about eating a salad instead over a cheese burger. And you are talking about quitting a physically addictive hard drug. Give me a fucking break bro. Stop giving them excuses for them to not stick to a better diet. You are helping no one by letting them bitch out.

[@mattm597]

It so much easier to say "I have a disease" than to say "I'm a lazy $@%& with absolutely no will power."

[@Trizzer89]

Addiction is a disease. But it is better to win through your own willpower than to take a drug that only temporarily helps

[@KingNiros]

Addiction is not a disease.... Everyone on this planet has an addiction to something.

[@treyday5200]

Fast food companies sodas cereals all market to kids. Sugar is more addictive than some drugs and if you start young its very hard to drop these habits. Not saying its right to be a fatty but most time its starts very young.

[@susiegreaves7283]

May I express my admiration for the brave people in this chat who have decided to lose weight and succeeded. Because I am 70 and brought up in an era with generally more natural food, I am not obese and this is NOT because I am not greedy. I am extremely greedy but my body was healthy in those first few years eg breast fed and no processed stuff for first ten years of my life. I think people who are obese are victims of malnutrition that started as babies. So I just want to say to those people, well done for trying to put things right now. There is no shame on your side. The people who should feel shame are the food companies and the greedy shareholders who profit from all this and the corrupt politicians who refuse to legislate.

[@LokiTricksterG]

My mom is on Ozempic (to lower her blood sugar, not to lose weight.) The reason it works so well in helping people lose weight is because it immediately makes you go to the bathroom, pretty much after every meal, and it gives you a slightly sick feeling in your stomach that makes your hunger go away.

[@josephberg1586]

If you can, let Joe and Bill Maher, JRE, Young Jamie, the key ingredient is LIZARD VENOM. From the Venomous Gila Monster. This is not a joke. Basic google search. Ozempic - Gila Monster - Lizard Venom

[@Sammasambuddha]

Sounds...great.

[@IIlllIlIllIIlllII]

Sounds like nothing could possibly go wrong with that... 😂

[@awakenyisrael]

Wow..sounds like she needs a booster too!

[@GingerPeacenik]

So, so has a death wish? Just go keto and intermittent fast. Takes care of it all!

[@wheelmanstan]

The further you go back in time, the harder it is to spot the fat person. Look at the "fat" women in Married With Children. They're average women now! Look at Fatty Arbuckle...that's the average dude now. Look at the carnival freaks of the old days, the "world's fattest man" or whatever. He's just another Wal-Mart shopper.. You can take a look at the Woodstock footage and have a very hard time spotting a single overweight person. Look at those 80's horror films and how thin yet healthy the women look, without ever having to work out and diet and hit the gym for those bodies. Our food is terrible. Sugar is snuck into everything, heck it's part of our balanced breakfast now. Sugar is the actual gateway drug. Decent food is expensive..though we should be growing it ourselves.

[@MrSandalwood]

That is very true.. another thing I was in a well know bar chain in America and they have reinforced bar chairs for the super fatties... are super fatties are way smaller... if your 5'10" and 220lbs your fat...

[@wheelmanstan]

@@MrSandalwood I love that 1961 song "Big Bad John", where he was "6'6" and weighed 245".

[@franciscooctavius5957]

The the world only would wake up to how manipulated we’ve all been for soooo long regarding food, we’d be able to put these huge companies out of business. So much insider manipulation all for the sake of some corporate greed. And then to be supplanted and supported by big pharma is truly disgusting. You guys nailed it right in the head

[@DavidCastro-z4y]

Doctors absolutely know why it works lol it has been used for diabetics for years. "Ozempic works by mimicking a naturally occurring hormone. As those hormone levels rise, the molecules go to your brain, telling it you're full. It also slows digestion by increasing the time it takes for food to leave the body. This is similar to the effect of bariatric surgery."

[@Jblament]

It is amazing home much weight you will lose when you cut out sugar. I used to be 230lbs and cutting out sugar was honestly the best thing I’ve ever done for my health above cardio, weight training, anything. Today I’m 145 and happy.

[@debbiemcallister7093]

Yep! There's not enough exposure given to that fact. Eliminating sugar (and carbs) is the #1 way to get rid of fat, and it's the most healthy thing you can do for your organs - to release them from the visceral fat.

[@christinarichie6171]

That's not sugar.. high fructose corn syrup ain't real sugar. Thats poisonous crap that will kill you and was utilized as a weapon against the population in America and central America.

[@marysalmon2367]

The tide starting turning when I was a young adult, and fast food was just booming. I remember going to school and there were maybe 3 fat kids, they stuck out, now you watch school kids and its one fat kid after another.

[@kastelvetro1491]

nope, fast food is fine, i eat it my bmi is 22 tops. wanna loose weight in the words of h oward stern '''eat less carloires asshole''

[@erinsuzy613]

​​@@kastelvetro1491 Fast food has been proven to be bad for you. It has no nutrition and they load them up with toxic ingredients. Go look up the ingredients in McDonald's french fries, they put chemicals in there to make them addictive. There is a documentary called Super size me where he ate fast food every day, and he gained a lot of weight and didn't even make it to the end of one month because his doctor said to stop eating it or he would die.

[@jlatio1]

I just got back from a week on a fairly expensive beach in the south and god damn is it horrifying what is happening to people. I spend alot of time at the gym and working from home and going out to clubs and bars for concerts and I guess I just haven't been seeing these people....but damn. And the kids....the huge kids under 5. How are we allowing people to do this to themselves is one thing but what they are going to their children is setting them up for short medically expensive miserable lives.

[@jamesparker1071]

🎯 Same people control the "food" supply as the "medicine". 🤔And the "vaccines".🤯

[@RedWolfenstein]

It's criminal what's happening to the kids

[@BipTunia_Microtonal_Cats]

4:13 Also, in 1969 doctors were handing out speed as diet pills like it was candy. My mother's doctor had her time-release speed as diet pills when I was a kid, I remember seeing them when I was 6, in 1970. Also remember taking them when I was 11 in 1975. So she was on at least that long. Was common then.

[@nightshade-o7g]

Bill Maher contributed heavily to our current clown world

[@Censortubes]

He’s one of the top talking heads for state.