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"The first time I ever really listened to Kyle Kulinski’s show was in the back of a cab last summer. The driver had his phone hooked up through the stereo and was pumping out an episode through the car speakers - loudly, as if looking to convert a captive audience.
“Do you like Kyle Kulinski?”
The driver, Ahmed, was a recent immigrant and apparently a die-hard fan of Secular Talk, the political talk show that Kulinski broadcasts on KZbin. I told him, yes, in fact. I do like Kulinski, had come across his show several years ago, and, all things considered, he seemed pretty good.
“He understands what we’re up against,” Ahmed said. “Like Bernie.”
But I was surprised to hear Kulinski’s name mentioned in the same breath as Bernie Sanders, particularly with such adoration. Because what I did remember about Kulinski’s show struck me as mostly capital-P “progressive” takes on the news - the left wing of the Netroots crowd more than the democratic socialism Sanders has popularized.
It’s an impression that wasn’t entirely incorrect.
“I have no time for philosophical, airy bullshit,” Kulinski tells me from his home in Westchester, New York. “I don’t want to hear about Lenin. I don’t want to hear about Marx. I just want a super plainspoken, straightforward agenda with a straightforward way of selling it.”
With over 800,000 subscribers and nearly 670 million total views on KZbin, selling a progressive agenda is clearly something Kulinski knows how to do - even Democracy Now, the long-standing flagship of progressive media, cannot match his reach on the platform. Chapo Trap House can certainly boast a wildly devoted fan base (and a not insignificant degree of media influence), but their audience is roughly half the size of Kulinski’s.
While Secular Talk might be more likely to be looped in with the progressive networks around Air America and Pacifica alums like Sam Seder than the more resolutely socialist world, Kulinski’s fiery rhetoric, razor-sharp class instincts, and knack for withering takedowns sets him apart from his peers. Judging by his rhetoric alone, he’s closer to a Eugene Debs than a Chris Hayes.
But unlike Hayes, Amy Goodman, or his friend Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks - who began airing Secular Talk on his web network seven years ago - the thirty-two-year-old Kulinski is virtually invisible in the mainstream media. Despite his enormous fan base, his show has never once been mentioned in the obligatory trend pieces on “the Millennial Left” pumped out by the prestige media. Nor has Kulinski’s name ever popped up at all in the New York Times, Vox, the New Yorker, New York Magazine, or the Washington Post, despite his leading role in cofounding Justice Democrats, the organization widely credited with sweeping Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of “the Squad” to power.
Just last week, his Wikipedia page was deleted. The reason? “There is very simply no [reliable source] coverage of this person,” according to one moderator. In new media, he’s king - the Sean Hannity of the Berniecrat left. In old media, he’s nobody.
I suspect there are a few reasons for that. There is nothing “cool” about Kulinski’s show. (As a friend put it, “‘Welcome to Secular Talk’ sounds like something you’d hear on Egyptian radio.”) His no-nonsense social-democratic politics won’t get him much cred with the Full Communism crowd. He records his show not in Brooklyn or Los Angeles, but in a studio he built himself in his modest Westchester home. His hair is too groomed and his taste in clothes too preppy to qualify as “Dirtbag Left.” Nor has he ever attended an n+1 release party. “Not only have I not attended one,” he says, “I have no idea what that means.”
And yet he’s astonishingly plugged-in for a young man in the suburbs. Wondering how Sanders ended up on the Joe Rogan Experience? Kulinski, a frequent guest on Rogan’s wildly popular show, introduced them. “You make the most sense to me,” Rogan told Kulinski on a recent episode. “You’re a normal person.”
Much like Sanders himself, Kulinski’s show has a massive audience that just doesn’t compute with our media’s understanding of “what the kids want” or even “what the left-wing kids want.”
It’s probably for the best - the very woke and very WASP-ish decorum haunting much of the media world is nowhere to be found in Secular Talk. “Corporate Democrats over-focus on identity as a trick to divert you from the issues that unite us all - class issues,” he said on a recent episode.
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[@Dao017]

I'm not anti SSRI but they are ridiculously over prescribed. I was given them for anxiety and they put me in such a severe state of anxiety much worse than I had ever been in that I could see myself becoming very dangerous and agitated. I know they help lots of people but sometimes you have a period of anxiety or something the entire medical establishment tries to send to you psychiatrist after psychiatrist and none of them listen to anything you are telling them and just keep trying to prescribe you dozens of different SSRI's at higher and higher doses while telling you simply that you just need to find the right one and the right dose.

[@nostalgiatrip7331]

No!!! A nuanced and based take!!!! We can't have that!! We need division!!! Fight! I take an SSRI (have tried a few anxiety/depression meds in my life, as well as psychedelics), and it works well for me. I'm glad I have access to it, but I'm a lucky case. I also don't think that I should have been prescribed these meds at TEN years old. I'm almost a year on prozac now and I'm still benefitting

[@scoop2448]

and they literally say in the commercials that the drugs may cause suicidal thoughts lol

[@khitir1500]

Your anecdote does not justify that it is over prescribed

[@insightfulhistorian1861]

@@nostalgiatrip7331 Nobody is denying that any of these negative consequences of drug use happen. Stop acting like you're the only one who understands that SSRI can be detrimental, you're not. Our whole argument is that the risks are OUTWEIGHED by the benefits.

[@kaikelii]

Blaming Videogames and Movies for Mass Shootings is such a Boomer solution to a modern day problem.

[@dustinsindledecker154]

Boomers are the problem.

[@svscared]

Exactly. That ridiculous argument only seems to come from the Boomers and I just can't with it.

[@dco1487]

@@svscared maybe you should go somewhere safe

[@jingbot1071]

@@dco1487 Maybe you should examine evidence, you lead-poisoned lich

[@theexplorer7139]

@@dco1487he doesn’t have to

[@VogtTD]

Bill Maher would have been right at home during the moral panic surrounding comic books.

[@tenkenroo]

Like when he insulted anyone sad that Stan Lee died

[@SuperMrDeadpool]

@@tenkenroo and made a stupid correlation between people liking comic books and Trump getting elected.

[@insightfulhistorian1861]

I feel like old school liberal Maher would have understood the cultural impact of comic books. Over the last few he's devolved into a lame ass boomer.

[@mikesmollin2043]

culture always dictates art, art never dictates culture, that relationship only flows one way. Bill is so stupid he is basicly saying that Mongolians were violent conquers cuz most of their songs are about war

[@judefernandez9234]

​@@tenkenroowhat pissed me off the most about that is that he used the fucking Bible to prove his point because he had no argument.

[@jd-tg1ox]

Bill keeps proving that older IS NOT wiser

[@dustinsindledecker154]

Exactly bill gets dumber while he ages.

[@sthubbins4038]

He’s trying to prove that drunker is wiser.

[@frankparker9319]

@@sthubbins4038 Proof that smoking dope does phawk you up.

[@guardianvalor962]

Proof an Atheist can become religious when Profit is God

[@DR-hy6is]

@@guardianvalor962 Very nice, guardian. Bill is the kind of filth that is too nasty to be scraped from the bottom of one's shoe.

[@philliphessel6788]

Japan produces a huge share of video games, including spectacularly violent ones. It originated the trope of absurdly big weapons symbolizing empowerment. Are those games not available (indeed popular) in Japan itself? That’s just a start of the questions that, when answered factually, demonstrate that the hypothesis is wrong.

[@ilexevergreen5405]

Access to weapons

[@kptlt.phillipthomsen5973]

@@Abcq755 Which one, theres like 1700

[@themadmattster9647]

Japan has some crazy stuff. Some lovely metal bands too

[@ShadyRonin]

Honestly, RFK seems like a good dude

[@wilcee238]

There was a time in my life where I paid to hear Bill Maher and Jimmy Dore make jokes. I guess the joke was on me this whole time.

[@julianbluefeather8491]

I’ve learned that most famous people are jerks. Be your own hero

[@CinCee-]

The joke was on alot of us

[@crapsquire]

@@julianbluefeather8491 Yeah that "be your own hero stuff" is bullshit! Cuz I always say never meet your heroes. So if I am my own hero, then that means I can never meet myself which is impossible! It's like matter and anti-matter. BOOM💥 😁 (is the smiley necessary?)🤣

[@dustinsindledecker154]

Wait when did jimmy dore actually say a joke?

[@xtaintedx3l0vex]

It's okay. It's a good thing to come to your senses rather than doubling down and making yourself look worse. I am reformed myself thanks to Kyle, Hasan, and TYT

[@tysonreuter5788]

Kyle just completely omits the clip right after where RFK said correlation isn’t necessarily causation on SSRI’s. Trying to prop up Maryanne by being dishonest.

[@3qtipkilla]

Yeah i thought that podcast was one of the best politician interviews I've seen I mean so its kinda odd to pick out the capitalism bit and not the vaccine convo because RFK listed several studies and imo proved insight* on the subject these things need your own research but at least he answered everything and left his full view on that and Kyle just devolves that like 40 mins to "he said vaccines cause autism" lol bitch move imo

[@luodeligesi7238]

Everyone knows Aaron Burr shot and killed Alexander Hamilton because Hamilton beat him at Call of Duty

[@sevensages5279]

Yeah, and he was on anti-depressants while he did it! 🤣

[@peterkrug4124]

Adolf Hitler was the biggest slasher movie fan. Ivan The Terrible spent many long hours playing the "Rampage" arcade game. Vlad The Impaler read every EC horror comic ever printed. Genghis Khan would always take a few hits off a bong just before raiding and pillaging a village.

[@donnydogpiss4533]

Actually, it was a game of Counter Strike and Hamilton was suspected of using aim-bot software and was talking mad shit during that fateful game, so it's thought by many historians that he kinda probably deserved it.

[@JamesDavy2009]

@@peterkrug4124 It's ironic you bring up Ivan the Terrible-he died from having a stroke while playing chess. 🐀(holds up sign saying "TRUE")

[@lizzyschenk8878]

😂😂😂

[@JM-yf3ol]

There has recently been a big study come out on ADHD medication in children. Turns out medicated kids have way way better life outcomes than ADHD kids that are unmedicated. ADHD medications are vastly improving the lives of people who took them as children.

[@richardmcquade6658]

Listening to these older folks go on, I'm put in mind of my grandparents in the 1980's sitting in the living room with cigars and beers and griping about what's wrong in the world. Right before they fell asleep in front of 60 Minutes or Newshour.

[@JamesDavy2009]

At that time, Russians were invading Afghanistan.

[@God-hs4hc]

Kyle you gotta face reality these SSRIs are the devil. The way they reprogram the brain chemistry is not a positive thing. It numbs you emotionally I've been on them. I was on Lexapro and was having abhorrent thoughts of suicide. The way doctors pump out prescriptions for SSRIs is embarrassing.

[@Acanthophis]

You are an anecdote. The majority of people on SSRIs are not suffering from this problem. Pharmaceuticals are 100% over prescribed but that doesn't mean they don't work and it also doesn't mean they cause people to shoot schools.

[@ozmond]

Nah bro they cool

[@oxygen69able]

Kyle doesn't know what he is talking about on this subject. Lexapro was sued for it causing people to kill themselves. Children were commiting suicide. Suicidal thoughts and actions are a possible side effect of SSRIs. If they cause depersonalization and suicidal thoughts, then it is not a stretch that they could cause homicidal tendencies.

[@scoop2448]

yep they literally say in the commercials that the drugs may cause suicidal thoughts lol but kyle knows better

[@masterchief9291]

@@scoop2448 i didn't hear him claim otherwise?

[@deathtouchltd]

SSRI’s literally saved my life. And I 100% believe that. I was not good at the start of this year, and within two months of starting anxiety and SSRI’s, I feel so different and happy, that I couldn’t imagine going back to not taking them.

[@insightfulhistorian1861]

Good for you, bro. Keep doing what's best for you. Never let anyone tell you otherwise.

[@deathtouchltd]

@@insightfulhistorian1861 Definitely won’t. It works for me and I’m gonna make sure that I do what is best for me.

[@insightfulhistorian1861]

@@deathtouchltd There are too many judgmental, bitter people out there who want to drag everyone else down with them. As the true adage goes, misery loves company. For this reason, my advice to you is: only share your taking meds and feeling better with a few people close to you. Most people will just resent you for feeling happy when they aren't.

[@darqentries]

@@insightfulhistorian1861 U two ladies get a room.

[@fortheloveofnoise9298]

They damage your brain over time like alcohol does....so if you can ever get well enough to not need them, would be best to move on.

[@andrewb4999]

Boomers really need to drop the violent video games talking point. It’s pure BS and is spoken out of an ignorance of the medium.

[@jabrokneetoeknee6448]

There does seem to be a correlation. Mass shooters typically aren’t quarterback of the football team. They tend to be chronically indoor gamers. Geeks have always gotten harassed at school, so the question becomes why have they become so violent in the last 20 or so years?

[@wildbill9681]

@@jabrokneetoeknee6448 this is wild. “Is it the harassment and easier access to firearms? Nah must be the video games”

[@jabrokneetoeknee6448]

@@wildbill9681 Harassment has gotten worse in the last 20 years? Definitely not. What about firearm access? Has it really gotten easier? I understand it’s much easier than it should be. But it’s not like access was stricter in the past. So what could be the dependent variable here?

[@crapsquire]

Hey dude, as a boomer I gotta say I've killed 10 times as many 'people' and various creatures in video games as you ever will. Please don't blame boomers, that's no different than blaming video games.😁🤣

[@jackeagleeye3453]

​@@jabrokneetoeknee6448video games and dorky kids exist in other countries and they don't have mass shootings like the US

[@WEAPONX4S]

At this point… I’m with carlin. Just gonna sit back and watch the freak show.

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

😅😅

[@liamlinson7563]

@ladyofthelake7398 "liked" if carlin was alive today he would be making fun of him

[@liamlinson7563]

@dylancarrigan99 not really, dude was pro abortion, anti religious, and believed in taxing the hell out of the upper class

[@M.A.C.01]

You need to title this RFK and Bill Mauer shit the bed together

[@derekjackson1039]

People are SO stupid they think movies, songs, social media is real. We see this nonsense first hand in schools. It’s sad and not surprising. BUT to allow easy access to guns is a CRIME against humanity. I’ll give RFK credit, he makes some reasonable arguments and sites studies at least. Seems anti establishment too

[@mikesmollin2043]

Funny how all the RFK supporters who were complaining about Kyle covering MW in almost every video and saying Kyle is being unfair suddenly got real quite. What happened guys? I thought Kyle was being unfair to RFK, but he goes on the JRE and all the sudden it's "new phone who dis?" Maybe he just sucked from the start and some people could smell it before you, but that would mean admitting an L, OH NO!

[@bucks216]

@mikesmollin2043 Go vote for Biden simp

[@svscared]

What's MW?

[@mikesmollin2043]

@@svscared Marian Williamson

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

Yeah RFK Jr should just be a Republican at this point he would fit right in and could probably be Trump's VP since the Q people called for his sibling. Also he doesn't answer media questions at all. Pfft 😅😅

[@insightfulhistorian1861]

They're coping over the fact that RFK conned them into thinking he's an anti establishment fighter from the left. RFK fans are blackpilled, low information voters who are so beaten down the establishment duopoly that they'll support a Kennedy holdout charlatan out of desperation. RFK fans struck me as third way vibers.

[@finallyfamous9564]

Can't stand Maher anymore, embarrassing. RFK is straight Alex Jones with a D next to his name

[@JumpinJoe]

Is Maher a conservative yet because I've been calling him one since 2020

[@ryanadams0922]

It triggers me that they blame video games as someone who plays video games daily i never had a desire to go kill someone or a group

[@crapsquire]

I'm really confused. You say "It triggers me...". So does that mean that now you are going to go and kill people? Yeah uh, please don't. 😂

[@jabrokneetoeknee6448]

Great argument. Real scientific. “Well I drank a 12 pack everyday and the doctor says my liver is fine!” Yeah, one person is not a study. Tens of millions of kids are playing these games. Isnt it possible that for a few of them these violent games might hit a little different?

[@princejellyfish3945]

​@@jabrokneetoeknee6448 If you really have to cherry pick the "few" out of tens of millions, don't you think there may be a more pressing factor in their turn to violence?

[@jabrokneetoeknee6448]

@@princejellyfish3945 That exact same argument can be made about owners of firearms. Most owners (10s of millions) don’t terrorize a school. Does that mean we shouldn’t have stricter gun control? I don’t think so. Yk, it’s possible that both approaches would help. Funny to me how irrational some are about this.

[@dustinsindledecker154]

Yeah I have never shot a hooker after playing Grand Theft Auto.

[@bigcrazewolf]

Old brain-worm riddled brain Bill

[@philsoro491]

The chap has embraced his worms & became 1

[@crapsquire]

I know that in Canada the reason we have so few mass shootings is because violence is outlawed in entertainment. No Canadian has ever seen violent entertainment. So yeah Bill you are absolutely right.

[@jabrokneetoeknee6448]

This has to be sarcasm, right? With the way it’s worded it’s a little difficult to tell

[@asdkjvblakfdsvbalberuibrer]

@@jabrokneetoeknee6448 wow

[@crapsquire]

So you are saying that you could believe that Canada is actually that different? Oh yeah, we are. For all you fed up Americans, we have lots of room. Just leave your guns at home.

[@jabrokneetoeknee6448]

@@asdkjvblakfdsvbalberuibrer What? Haha it’s KZbin comments guys say wacky stuff on here all the time

[@crapsquire]

😂😂👍

[@SnarkyMcCarthy]

I still remember my withdrawal from forgetting to take Lexapro two days in a row. I was physically exhausted, I sweated, and endured heightened anxiety and shaking. Thankfully made it through my college classes and napped before taking my pill and stabilizing after a while. Have yet to repeat that mistake, and relieved for that.

[@ozmond]

Lol

[@oxygen69able]

You get brain on day 3 that are brutal. Lexapro killed my "soul".

[@Busterbrowns]

We need to fix the root cause of mental health, not just slap a bandage on a bullet wound. I struggle with anxiety and have been on medication. It doesn’t really help me. It worked the first few days then it stopped working. So I gave up medication completely and fixed my anxiety naturally. How did I do it? I logged out of social media, spent time in the sun daily, ate a better diet and stay hydrated every day. These things will reduce your anxiety and depression naturally but won’t cure it completely. We still need to get to the root problem of what is actually causing anxiety and depression to rise.

[@booradley4237]

My grandmother says school shooters just started drinking coffee at too young of an age, lol. Pretty much same argument

[@JamesDavy2009]

One could make a similar argument about energy drinks-they contain more caffeine than coffee.

[@richg2620]

Why are you against higher standards of safety and repealing the law that gives pharmaceutical companies full immunity from lawsuits for vaccines? There’s plenty of stories about how these companies choose to turn a profit while KNOWINGLY selling a dangerous product to consumers (talc powder from J&J) JFK said multiple times he’s not against medicine and innovation but he wants higher standards of safety for these companies that are PURELY driven by maximizing profits as much as possible

[@scoop2448]

dude they literally say in the commercials that the drugs may cause suicidal thoughts lol

[@anti-classist]

Capitalism does not equal free market.

[@princejellyfish3945]

true, but nothing equals a free market because it doesn't exist, it's literally just a propaganda term created by capitalists to fool non capitalists into supporting the current system.

[@svscared]

Mind elaborating?

[@anti-classist]

@@svscared about what... capitalism and free market aren't the same

[@svscared]

@@anti-classist Ok but a huge proponent/feature of Capitalism is the free market. So basically Capitalism can't operate without the free market, at least to my understanding.

[@anti-classist]

@@svscared not making a great argument for capitalism if this is what it leaves behind for a world... war torn, injustice, genocide, tons of people disenfranchised. Capitalism just mean some richer than you guy gets to take some of the production you create.

[@kclaytor2]

A couple of my adult children do like their SSRIs, but my third felt worse on them. I also took Flexeril, which also increases serotonin in the brain and it gave me intrusive negative thoughts. The SSRIs have warnings on them about increasing suicidal thoughts. I noticed that Kyle didn't show the part of the interview where the SSRI warnings are mentioned. I've been a huge fan of Kyle's since at least 2016, maybe longer, but I feel like he is doing the opposite with RFK Jr. than he usually does. He usually does credit where credit is due, and I feel like he is not noticing the good of RFK Jr (wanting to stop regulatory capture) and is only noticing the bad. Perhaps his friendship with Maryanne Williamson is getting in the way this time or perhaps he is concerned about the demonetization that could happen with positive RFK Jr. videos.

[@tracyleighbasham]

Did it make you want to pick up a gun and murder people? Lots of people have suicidal thoughts. That's SELF-destructive. It's easy access to guns that is the problem. Not depressed people.

[@Carlin2810]

@@tracyleighbasham Yeah because most people that shoot places up are mentally stable people. Youre a F'ing mong

[@sammyshafty3485]

@@tracyleighbasham exactly.

[@fortheloveofnoise9298]

Yep...I tried those medications and they gave me extremely violent thoughts....ide rather be depressed than a serial killer 😂 So I quit them, and have just taken some vitamins and have got much better....not fully, but way better than I was....just from vitamins and natural supplements. The most potent vitamin is Niacin....yhe original kind that makes your skin red and burny feeling works best... literally melts away negative emotions when I take a strong dose....sure I turn red and my skin burns, but it gives full peace of mind without being a drug.

[@shawnwilson8256]

The number one thing that would get young men to do less school shootings is to address the issue of lonely young men. Drugs will only help some of these shooters. The main thing is that these people know that they are doomed to living alone and so they take revenge on society for that. Young men need to have families and our society's current social structure or lack thereof, doesn't allow that. Also, for those of you who are going to bring up the Vegas shooter as an argument that it's not young men doing the shootings; I would respond by saying, it is mostly young men and you got one example of an older guy doing it. Sorry, but my examples of young men doing shootings far outnumbers whatever amount of old shooters you can bring up.

[@fortheloveofnoise9298]

Not always Kyle, the SSRI pills can cause an opposite reaction in some people and they can become worse....but it is a small amount of people that happens to..but just wanted to correct you on that.

[@htruman]

Good Video Kyle. I'm on Paxel, and watch Movies, and I never thought of going on shooting. Alsi how many times Maher has called America a stupid Country.

[@insightfulhistorian1861]

Maher is a carmudgeon at this point. He bitches and moans about America because that's where the 💰💰 is. All he cares about is cucking himself to the conservative grift.

[@scoop2448]

thank you for this incredible anecdote

[@insightfulhistorian1861]

@@scoop2448 It's not just him. Millions of Americans, myself included, play violent video games, and almost none of us are murderers.

[@kennet7837]

​@@insightfulhistorian1861And millions of non-Americans. The mass shooting problem is a uniquely American issue.

[@insightfulhistorian1861]

@@kennet7837 It is, but Americans don't understand how anecdotes and statistics work, so many of us point to a random shooting in Germany or Japan and say "see, it happens over there too 😏." Smh, anything to deflect from the need to address our problems.

[@CascadiaHermit]

Kyle, I like that you understand Anti-depressants, but until the doctors got my medication mix right, they had to experiment with many different types and mixes of SSRIs before they found the one that work for me.... and unfortunately, I was batshit and belligerent with some of those experiments. A lot of them made me unable to function. The brain is finicky and messing with it's chemistry is a delicate process.

[@TheOldSchoolGamer93]

That's true. But kyle was merely pointing out an unproven claim from RFK which is actually a very talking point

[@jessejones1890]

Kyle brings up exactly what you said about half way through the video.

[@CascadiaHermit]

@@TheOldSchoolGamer93 Agreed, I just wanted to give my own personal experience with the process that mustn't be overlooked. What RFK and Mahr go on about is a half-argument and based on false logic. Kyle touches on my point, but doesn't explore it enough to get it across that the road to good mental health is a process of discovery... because one pill can't fix everything.

[@oxygen69able]

SSRIs can cause depersonalization, make depression worse, and make you suicidal. It's not a stretch that they could cause homicidal ideation. Kyle doesn't know shit about antidepressants.

[@JamesDavy2009]

Right you are-mess with it too much and you could get a stroke.

[@JasperOFlanigan-fb5lv]

WiFi has clearly destroyed the brains of RFK fans. No other explanation

[@TerpsMatterPodcast]

I guess biden fans just keep tripping

[@imofage3947]

If violence is caused by violent video games, then you have to tell me what video games people were playing during the Crusades. I'll wait.

[@deez3913]

RFK has been a big disappointment, he's stuck in 1985 and ignores some really specific studies debunking stuff

[@svscared]

Such as autism supposedly being caused by vaccines 🙄🤦‍♂️

[@DP_88.]

Everyone says things like that but rarely do they mention what exactly he is wrong about and even less so will mention a specific credible study

[@jackeagleeye3453]

​@@DP_88.RFK believes HIV does not cause AIDS. He also promted vaccines as having caused autism even though we know that's not true.

[@liamlinson7563]

@@DP_88. video games causing mass shootings is a pretty brain dead statement from rfk and bill maher for starters

[@jer1776]

Did Krystal order you to make a bad take like this?

[@jackeagleeye3453]

Krystal Derangement Syndrome

[@CompoundP]

A side effect of SSRI’s is suicidal thoughts. You don’t think it’s possible that homocidal thoughts could happen as well?

[@AgxntOrange]

From the study that said 13.2% of adults have used SSRIs in the last 30 days "Among men, use was lowest among those aged 18-39 (5.5%) " So 23% is actually significant overrepresentation. Add to that the fact that the manufacturers of Prozac paid off victims of a mass shooting to protect their drug in court and you should be asking more questions. This took me all of 20 minutes to find out, based on stuff you showed in this video. This is your job dude.

[@knosje]

Europeans watch pretty much the same movies and play the same games Americans do, yet the amount of mass shootings is negligible. How on earth can someone not realise the link between mass shootings and violent media is completely idiotic?

[@Sparrows1121]

Because sane people know its fiction. Gun free market in USA is main reason for why Americans on majority basis die from handgun homicide 18000 people each year. Tell me the numbers of those in Europe? Oh right there is non. At best you could say violence makes one disilusioned, but it has no effect on actual cause of why people die from mass murder like they do in USA. The cause is easy market for guns, thats it

[@edwardmemwah1610]

RFK Jr. is a "Bill Maher democrat." Kyle, thanks for watching this suckfest so we don't have to.

[@TheRogueEmpire]

no hes not, rfk supports russian nazi imperialism, mahr supports freedom and ukraine. rfk is an insane libertarian.

[@dco1487]

@@TheRogueEmpire that's not true

[@mathaddict1985]

​​@@dco1487ou will need to explain that to me because RFK jr being a "Bill Maher Democrat" is pretty accurate. Anti Vax Free market pro capitalist Incrementalism The lovefest interview put their parallels on display. I really like the term Maher Democrats 😂😂😂

[@julianbluefeather8491]

I got bored and dipped out halfway through

[@dco1487]

@@mathaddict1985 He's not a pro Nazi Russian whatever, He only pointed out that we're happy rent Ukraine lots of weapons but not help settle or win the war. Capitalism is good too, or you wouldn't be enjoying this video right now

[@jarredgeis625]

Damn man you are way off base with the SSRi analysis. There's something there. Not enough to say they "cause" shootings but there's definitely something there.

[@Charlotte_Martel]

At this point, I highly suspect that Kyle and Krystal are getting kickbacks from Big Pharma. They've never met a pharmaceutical that they didn't instantly embrace w/o question.

[@Khalkara]

What is that something? Do you *know* or are you just vagueposting to try to compensate for your lack of personality?

[@ProlerSkyphet]

However, the results from the antidepressants can be partially fluffed by placebo effect by telling the people how it’s going to work for them…

[@margaretcox4456]

If they believe it then they will good and not resort to violence right?

[@oxygen69able]

I have tried almost all of them and none of them did anything positive for me. The placebo effect is very real. Kyle doesn't know shit about antidepressants. They can make depression worse and cause suicidal ideation so it's not a stretch that they may be linked to homicidal ideation. Big pharma makes too much money off of them to look into the subject. The government is bought by Big Pharma, so they have no interest in looking into it.

[@caitthecat]

​@@margaretcox4456It really depends. An individual's level of suggestibilty has a lot to do with placebo effects.

[@fernandogalvez1141]

Still waiting for that video where Kyle criticizes Marianne for being anti vax. Won’t hold my breath with Kyle Hacklinski.

[@davidalmeida2991]

Where did you get that information about MW? Can you point me to some link or something? Thanks

[@victoremanuele2827]

​@@davidalmeida2991watch the interview she did with Breaking points

[@jgmediting7770]

It would depend how and why she’s anti-vax. I doubt it’s the nonsense you get from right wing shills.

[@SolidAir54321]

@@victoremanuele2827 I didn't get the impression from that interview that she was anti-vax. She was advocating for independent review and research. She thought the pharma companies and CDC lost credibility because they exclusively pushed the vaccines on people without allowing more discussion about risks and alternatives. But when asked whether she thought the vaccines were effective she did say she thought "there is a very good argument for the fact that they did. I do believe that." That was my take anyway.

[@fernandogalvez1141]

@@SolidAir54321 RFK’s position isn’t that much different from hers, he’s not Anti-vax. But all the Marianne fans are unhinged, they will move the goalpost at all costs in order to defend her.

[@shybard]

Do they really think people in Japan don't play violent video games or watch violent movies/shows? Anime has buckets of blood and horrific violence used for entertainment purposes. Yet, they don't have mass shootings. I wonder why.

[@liamlinson7563]

they dont want to talk about the real issues, they're afraid

[@Methuselah969V]

I ❤️ hearing Kyle rant. Somebody has to do it, I used to have similar rants inside my own head when I would occasionally watch Fox news back in the old cable TV days, which does nobody any good lol.

[@TheManHere1]

It’s like saying “well a large percentage of lower limb amputees were on diabetes medication, therefor the diabetes medication caused the amputation.”

[@CinCee-]

Who is watching a Bill Maher podcast? Boomers dont even know what podcasts are.

[@1massboy]

RFK is just Obama 2.0 but crazier

[@andoceans23]

Obamna

[@dustinsindledecker154]

That is an insult to Obama.

[@sensible1163]

Theyre both odd men.

[@tracyleighbasham]

I HATE RFK SOO MUCH!

[@nrsrymj]

Clowns gon clown

[@mathieuleader8601]

given how croaky RFK is here sounds like the Kennedy Curse has been activated

[@smith5796]

Haha lol 🤣

[@kajpagan]

Let me walk you thru something. When these (mostly) young men turn 18, the Medicaid dollars are cut off, and so is access to mental health treatment, including the mood altering drugs they've likely been taking since they were 8-10 years old.

[@JamesDavy2009]

So logically, part of the problem can be solved through a universal public healthcare system.

[@kajpagan]

@@JamesDavy2009 Indeed. Because right now, kids on meds is profitable. Not so much for the uninsured 19 year old.

[@JamesDavy2009]

@@kajpagan The for-profit motive is illogical when it comes to healthcare; and yet the people on top have sold their souls to Mammon.

[@jeremeyunger6568]

Because even though its not perfect, it works far better than any other system known to humanity. America and its citizens seem to be doing pretty well compared to the rest of the world, dont you think?

[@purelife8559]

They basically said violence in movies, video games and TV shows could play a part in mass shootings, NOT that they directly cause mass shootings. These issues are multi-factorial what's so hard to understand?

[@Dan16673]

Kyle didnt know what farms were as of 8 years ago. Poor kid has never been anywhere to see a world without markets. Naive and confused

[@usmousie1]

Not just guns. Angry men. This is important.

[@jgmediting7770]

Very important. Ultimately it comes down to the effects of capitalism on the family and mental health.

[@SmellySumtom]

This never gets said... "Tax the bullets" $

[@kelliott7864]

Good idea, but making bullets at home is surprisingly easy.

[@SmellySumtom]

@@kelliott7864 Tax the powder, tax the casings, tax the primers. Taxing the bullets means more than just the single round of ammo, it's taxing whatever feeds the guns.

[@kelliott7864]

@SmellySumtom I'm with you bud.

[@josephgodfrey8468]

I can see that a leading plaintiff lawyer around drug side effects would have encyclopedic knowledge of lawsuits around Columbine and SSRIs. The fact that a lawsuit occurred doesn't mean that those claims were valid.

[@TIENxSHINHAN]

Shoutout to Kyle for saying the Malian Empire, people rarely mention African civilizations. Not even sure if that was the Malian Empire he was talking about but I'ma just pretend it was

[@TheBarca1889]

It had the largest goldmines on this planet and it was still a shithole inferior to basically every contemporary empire and state.

[@JamesDavy2009]

They were big on barter during that time and salt was worth more than its weight in gold, hence the idiom "worth your salt".

[@physiqueDrummond]

“I've listen to the whole thing” (so you don't have to)

[@illegalmonkey]

Whoa, whoa, whoa..... RFK thinks violence in video games leads to violence irl??? Bro... come on now. You lost me there.

[@AndrewPagel9628]

Hi. I'm someone who plays videogames a lot. I still have gone through life without taking a single life. I play a lot of Assassin's Creed. I don't go out into the real world stabbing people to death. It's not true. And even if there are cases of the opposite, it's so small.

[@Dylaniated]

What if what they were getting was not which drugs they're on but the fact that shooters have mental health issues?

[@jag92949]

As a born-again conservative, RFK Jr is the only Democrat I’d vote for.

[@JimMacintosh]

Fawn over capitalism? It’s the best system going despite its flaws. When the wall went down in Berlin, which side did everyone run to? You’re not 25 anymore, time to grow up and be an adult.

[@jgmediting7770]

If your understanding and argument skills is what being an adult means, then no thanks.

[@seculair2996]

Remember Kyle said: You are objectively wrong if you like fall and you should be ashamed of yourself.

[@craiggosnay6991]

All these capitalist bros who go on TV saying how great it is have most likely never had to experience it at the production level, as the vast majority of people have to. And I honestly don't know what they mean by "free market." What is an example of an unfree market, slavery?

[@merriemelodiesfan7425]

Bill Maher and RFK Jr are both nuts.

[@platoniczombie]

Here come all the RFK soy boys. 😂

[@Loke6661666246]

Bill Maher keeps getting worse and worse.

[@heyoats5375]

Kyle, no one is saying that video games cause mass shootings. And to say that THAT is what these men are saying is intellectually dishonest. They're having a conversation about a culture that leads to violence that potentially includes many different factors. Including, anti-depressants (prescribed for CHILDREN) a constant stream of violence portrayed in movies, television and video games. Cell phones, social media, etc. As well as easy access to deadly firearms. All of these factors should be looked at scientifically. To portray them as saying anything else is misleading.

[@blackflagsnroses6013]

Yeah it’s the illiberal culture. Every country that has the same entertainment media as us don’t have this issue, because it’s the gun culture of America. These two geezers don’t know what they’re talking about and love the smell of their own farts. Mass massacres are just the evolution of the serial killer issue. They hold similar traits as those of old serial killers only now the thing is mass murder. Mental health is the issue. People need to look at the core of the issue. Statistically majority of gun assaults are perpetrated by people with DV history. And cops/police also have a high rate of DV issues but that’s another yet related issue

[@MrRedHotChiliMan]

Not to mention mental healthcare programs, or lack thereof, in this country is a joke.

[@jgmediting7770]

Then they’re also not having an honest discussion as they leave out by far the biggest contributor. No surprise as there’s a need to protect their class interests.

[@heyoats5375]

@@jgmediting7770Kennedy is running to try to figure out ways to bridge the divide between the left and right. As soon as you mention gun control to anyone on the right, they recoil. We have to start looking for solutions to our problems. We can’t just be dug in forever. Civil war is unacceptable, but avoidable if we open our minds a little. We have to start trying to understand one another. Or it WILL be endless war.

[@sojournern]

RFKjr is like a magnet for any damn conspiracies he can find. I'm so sick of this guy.

[@dustinsindledecker154]

There isnt a conspiracy he doesnt believe.

[@mightydarkseid3098]

Is Bill living in reality anymore?

[@kflivingston8483]

This is not the Bobby I knew from Air America? But to me the Paranoia of being from a family with TWO of the most famous assassinations has taken over every event in his life? And with that the friends you make? Rogan? Laura Ingraham??

[@iamalongusername]

It's like some in the USA have no idea that the rest of the world exists. Movies and video games do actually exist in other countries you know.

[@dunkelmonkey]

Something I've been running into lately, people are trying to force you into a box where if you question RFK Jr AT ALL, you are automatically the biggest simp for big pharma that's every existed, as if I can't think that the pharmaceutical industry has flaws AND be suspicious of RFK Jr..

[@anthonytwohill9726]

Those kids were on SSRIs BECAUSE they were nut bags. They weren't nut bags because they were on the drugs.

[@benkelly447]

Imagine voting joe biden who won't debate over JFK

[@jgmediting7770]

Neither are the answer. Both represent elite class interests, same as the republicans and trump. We have the choice the elite want us to have - corporate dems v the far right.

[@ajensetta]

That was very very very good. Thank you for taking the time on this one. Maher is so embarrassing.

[@matt45540]

SSRIs did not help me at all... But I understand that's the minority

[@ambriasaunders1869]

I've sided with the Dark Brotherhood every time I've ever played Skyrim, and I have yet to stab someone. 🤷🏼

[@smileyeagle1021]

I'm on SSRIs... I was definitely more violent (fortunately towards myself... well, fortunate in as much as at least I wasn't hurting others) before taking SSRIs than after. There is definitely a link between SSRIs and mass shootings... that link is that the people who commit shootings SHOULD have been on SSRIs and the people on SSRIs who commit mass shootings should have been on a higher dose.

[@matasteme]

Not to take their side on this, but I almost wish someone in a debate with one of these guys would concede the point for the sake of argument that side effects of pharmaceuticals (or of withdrawal from them), mental illness in general, video games and movies, whatever it is. And then point out that even if we grant the point, there’s still no mass shooting if the person in question doesn’t also have access to a gun.

[@Think-dont-believe]

This is cringey.. 4:34 you need to read the pamphlet at a minimum

[@alexhill4757]

Violent movies CAN influence mass shootings. Cough… John Hinkley…. Cough.

[@derekgladden5200]

I don’t know…. I’ve gotten pretty violent with a box of little Debbies in a marijuana fueled hunger rage….

[@michaeld4861]

Bill Maher: "Finally someone as dumb as I am that just wants to watch the world burn from my golden chair." Also what a strange set. Couple of grandma/willy wonka's reclining chairs, looks like they chose matching outfits that the boring people from the 70's wore, a tin with ice for the champaign, and is that a newspaper?

[@garetthewitt9976]

The bigger issues is why so many Americans are on SSIRs

[@SuperMrDeadpool]

No matter how many times it's been disproven, boomers just keep coming back to the stupid movies and video games argument.

[@DarkMaths]

Did anyone teach boomers the difference between a consumer good and a public good?

[@Loengrinn]

The argument about the prevalence of violence is SUPER interesting because the science flies in the face of intuition. You'd THINK exposure to violence, even obviously face violence, would desensitize you to it, but turns out it doesn't. Additionally, the violent video games thing serves as an OUTLET for those impulses, so you're LESS likely to act on those feelings because of the games. The fact that they say these things so confidently off nothing but their FEELINGS about it being true is amazing.

[@Bickle121]

Btw kyle, rogan always mentions the Anti depressants in relation to school shootings.

[@fortheloveofnoise9298]

I played the MW2 campaign and I didn't become a mass shooter. 😂

[@queenlover007]

Something that is always missing about treatment for mental health is that all medications MUST be taken alongside therapy. CBT and other mental health therapies are the key to resounding mental health and the fact that our medical system wants to drug you up rather than add the second component is why our mental health is still horrific. The idea behind medications like SSRI's is so your symptoms can be handled in such a way that you can work on techniques in your daily life to the point where you help yourself alongside with the medication and therapy (in some cases, with approval from a professional you no longer need it). I was in therapy for years, with a therapist I loved, yet I finally realized that my trauma was still so harborging that going on Lexapro was beneficial. Did I hate the way I felt the first time? Absolutely but over time it has helped to where my anxiety isn't crippling anymore. I know I'm speaking anecdotally but seriously missing the therapy component on all these discussions drives me insane!

[@nitinbharadwaj1151]

The SSRI claim is not the bullshit you think it is. They are known to cause mildly depressed people to become suicidal out of nowhere, so it's not much of a stretch to claim that they can lead to violence and psychotic towards others as well. Moreover, antidepressants do not unilaterally improve symptoms as you claim, Kyle. They regularly (not always, but often enough) make symptoms worse, especially when medication is first started.

[@electronicexposure]

very true, but also shows how much proper and personalized health care is important.

[@alexnorth3393]

They CAN lead to suicidal thoughts but that is not common at all. They work and work well.

[@nitinbharadwaj1151]

They certainly do work well for some people. With that said, they still are a potential and plausible explanation for certain shootings. Not saying that they are the likely explanation for all or even some shootings, but this situation is certainly not the insanity that Kyle is making it seem to be.

[@shawnwilson8256]

Availability of guns is not the main thing behind shootings either, it's the lack of a social structure in which a man can have a family. I do believe in some gun control.

[@Khalkara]

It absolutely is the main thing behind shootings. You cannot do a mass shooting without a gun. Also what does "social structure in which a man can have a family" even mean? When did the US start banning men from fucking?

[@legtoe8626]

Who is Kyle sponsored bye phizer