Bill Simmons Drafts the Worst NBA Contracts With Joe House and Wosny Lambre | Bill Simmons Podcast

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[@joshportie]

There is literally no such thing as race. The idea of separate races comes from the religious belief that we evolved at different times and are therefore a completely different species. Every single person on earth comes from two individuals. And then there was a genetic bottle neck where only a handful of people survived. Enough of the catholic lies and pushing its racist social justice.

[@jennycraigadventures3314]

It’s amazing how Andrew Wiggins has gone from consensus “worst in the league” to “reasonable” after 115 games with The Warriors.

[@Khail707]

To be fair he wasn’t playing to his portents in minn & we got him in a rushed deal which could’ve waited till draft night. The warriors system is one of the best in sports at maximizing potential & rejuvenating careers.

[@jennycraigadventures3314]

@@Khail707 but there have also been a lot of guys who didn’t fit, like Oubre as the most recent example.

[@iHaveAnEyedea]

Put a player in the right system and he/she will flourish ⭐

[@peterhsueh5214]

circumstance and perspectives changed

[@Khail707]

@@jennycraigadventures3314 can’t lie there

[@amoralpedantic]

One of the better basketball pods of the season. Good stuff here guys.

[@davincerica7232]

another Westbrook Wall trade would be the funniest shit ever

[@Rukhasu]

Then they can be traded in the next season 😂😂😂😂

[@Zarbon000]

😂😂😂

[@Austinwhite918]

More full length videos like this please!!!

[@orpheos9]

Wos out here actually trying to build a good team as well as follow the assignment.

[@OldRage]

Any podcast with Bill and House is just pure gold

[@GC-ej3qq]

Hard Klay take, but when House asks, “is it worth it if they win this year?” I feel like every warrior fan says YES

[@Khail707]

Of course we are lol. I’m not too sure on this but I feel like it’s only a bad deal cuz he missed 2 yrs. At the time we signed him he was top 5 sg’s & rumors of him leaving to la.

[@calmdownbruh8518]

@@Khail707 Generally warriors fans have never thought that Klay's deal was bad even through the 2 missed years. We just wanted him back and healthy.

[@peterhsueh5214]

Warriors paid klay for the past

[@acelight2698]

They paid him because he what’s cury need to be be great. Has more value on the warriors than anywhere else because of the fit.

[@acelight2698]

If you the third best on a team you getting a max. He a guy you want because he doesn’t need the ball to be effective. It’s a bad take. He doesn’t get hurt he too 5 two way player. He was never hurt before the last two season

[@tbirdbrad3210]

Siakam is not a worse contract than Hayward. I understand that’s not how it works but also Siakam has gotten better every week since being back this season and is playing at an all star level right now.

[@russcannings8673]

Siakam is a great defensive wing who has us a multi tooled offensive threat and is a greatly improved playmaker. He mat not be an alpha now but he's 100% max worthy.

[@t4d0W]

I think its sort of a thin line. At Haywards' best with the right team he really pops off. He was so important for the way the Celtics played their brand of offense as being the connective guy to those other scorers. Hell you can see how the Celtics miss a guy like that right now. Siakam however on average does deliver what he does at a base line with his open floor scoring and playmaking. And even if he played 2nd/3rd option to Kawhi/Lowry back in 2019, he was still VERY important as another reliable option on both sides of the ball.

[@respectedlocalgentleman7108]

The point is that they're both second options, at best, on winning teams. Paying good guys great money results in a shitty product, as the league has demonstrated over the past decade.

[@russcannings8673]

@@respectedlocalgentleman7108 So it's better to let a player walk if he's not a top 15 player? The going rate for borderline allstars is the max. Plain and simple. Siakam is actually playing better right now than he did in his all nba season. I wouldn't expect Bill to notice this of course. Zach sees it at least

[@afzalchishti9092]

Siakam has absolutely been balling since he came back from his shoulder injury. He is playing great now after raps have had a rough last year but he definitely is showing he can't be a #1 option but if you think of him as a 2 then he's not bad.

[@Dhanushan]

whoever says siakam is overpaid is dumb af a 2 way wing like him is hard to find nowadays who can get you 20 + a night with good defense is worth it.

[@afzalchishti9092]

@@Dhanushan I mean Zach Lowe in his article about 10 things brought up himself that siakam is back to his all NBA level, just validating that I'm not saying this as a super biased raptors fan

[@ehoustoun]

I love how they said he keeps missing games when he spent most of his missed games last season either with COVID or in safety protocols

[@Oeleted]

@@Dhanushan nahhh it’s just facts buddy don’t be mad 🤷🏽‍♂️ 30 mill for a dude who can barely make an impact on your team? Try watching a raps game instead of looking at box scores and highlights goof hahahahaha

[@KuckedBuild]

If he could be a teams number 3 he would be perfect. Real good player, but not a 1,2

[@nocuh]

Drunk House’s face in the first few frames really sets the tone lmao

[@R.B.90]

Little shocked by the Siakim slander. Last year was the only year he wasn't an Allstars level player and that's a mix of injuries and have a bad reaction to covid he was open about. He's been solid as of late, won't make the Allstars game this year but he's back to being that level of player and will lead the raptors to the playoffs no doubt.

[@russcannings8673]

Exactly. Even with his 'struggles' Last year, he was the first Raptor EVER to average at least 21 7 and 5. It's a shame so many think the trade rumours have anything to do with the actual team. Hey are 100% driven by other clubs that want him. Also if Siakam was a free agent today he's 100% getting the max from someone.

[@patrik32]

😂😂😂 I loved when Davis Bertans was like: OK Im just not showing up for the bubble and got paid, if I'm the gm I would offer a minimum for the effort, he wants a player like him

[@Zarbon000]

I’ll pass on the Bubble but still take the $. - Bertans Let’s sign this dude to a big extension -Wizards GM 😂😂😂

[@paulbutler5052]

Best addition to the show Wosny - take a bow sir , informative and funny

[@kaddyshakkgolf]

With House referring to Ian Mahimi and Bertans, it seems like both of them being former Spurs players, seems like the Spurs system hit them with the okie doke twice!

[@Harry_Paratesties]

Mahinmi got his big contract from his play with the Pacers

[@skipbrainless2732]

In Denver's defense, it's not like a lot of players are going to Nuggets, and you wanna maximize Jokic's prime. Also MPJ was looking really good last year.

[@odonnellcaleb]

I guess the real question we will never know the answer to is..How hard did they shop him? How hard did they try to unload Porter JR and Bol Bol? Because I find it hard to believe that NO one would have pulled the trigger on a trade that would excite most fan bases that aren't hoping for a title. But then when you consider how many teams passed on them in the draft I also can't say it's impossible. If they could have stolen a good player from another team then...They completely failed. If they couldn't? Then I guess they took a necessary gamble for a small market team, and at the moment, it looks like it backfired.

[@gators9570]

They could have found a safer group to play with Jokic. They didn’t have to pay Porter yet, could have waited and seen

[@gators9570]

They could have found a safer group to play with Jokic. They didn’t have to pay Porter yet, could have waited and seen

[@t4d0W]

Yes and No. There probably was a 'healthy' figure for MPJ but I can assume he had leverage because of Murray's prolonged absence. Jokic needs a bucket man next to him to make a deep playoff dive and MPJ had the Nuggets by the balls on the negotiating table.

[@enthusiastofcute]

No it was a gamble and it backfired. They bet on a guy who’s had chronic back problems which have already severely limited his time on the court. The fact that he had another back issue after signing the contract could be fatal to the Nuggets in terms of roster flexibility and cap space.

[@Hakiimthedream]

i smiled while clicking this, god i love the ringer

[@lebronGilgeous-Kim]

house and lambre lowkey have chemistry

[@_fredo8]

15:11 Crazy what difference a year makes... Ben Simmons is on his way out of the league while DeAaron Fox is the 2seed in the West 😂

[@patrik32]

THT RONDO without no court vision 😂😂😂I'm losing it

[@Zarbon000]

😂😂😂

[@srs.airbag]

the talen horton tucker deal is hilarious

[@user-dp5qh1wq3u]

THT is like 21 and could develop into a really good player. It just sucks that he is on a win-now team with no spacing, and multiple on-ball players who do what he does best. His current role on the team has him spotting up and shooting 3s alot which is not what he does best. Not to mention, the Lakers have no time to wait for him to develop.

[@goseeaboutagirl]

Indeed, the kid sucks and sadly Bron's Lakers stupidly decided to choose him over Caruso.

[@amc1140]

You should see the other guys making $10M...

[@adamrichard7311]

He looks fantastic rn funny how quickly things change

[@gators9570]

Look at Derrick Whites contract to be a completely mediocre player

[@daggerthree]

You can pretty much make an entire team out of current and ex-Celtics: Horford, Kemba, Theis, Fournier, Marcus Smart, Gordon Hayward

[@swpdisciple]

I know right lol

[@joedagg4495]

Smart contract isnt bad

[@WheresWaldo05]

What is the point of your comment. Theis, Walker and Smart are all on cheap contracts. (8, 8, 15 per year) so again, whats your point?

[@jackdriscoll8387]

horford is actually underpaid

[@henrycavanagh668]

@@jackdriscoll8387 he getting 27 a year 🧐

[@trevormink6001]

I come back and watch this so often. It's gold 🤣🤣🤣

[@movieanatomy4341]

These are the segments I live for

[@edwardestacio3167]

TJ McConnell is a great defender and an excellent facilitator.

[@larrybird6860]

Shit pissed me off TJ deserves his bag

[@LunaticTheCat]

Ya, he's a great backup PG.

[@thatonedude675]

Acting like $9 mil for basically the ultimate backup PG is killer. Guess he had to go in on biracials and whites somehow.

[@danieljenkins7951]

Lies

[@tomkearns4912]

Had the same thought TJ is the man

[@kudabeen]

Media is so fickle...LoL. They will hype a guy so hard to put down another player and in the same season change their mind...Ben Simmons hasn't played one game and the truth of his value over Fox is just realized now??? All of the sudden helping a team win as a top player counts? Wild.

[@chrislambert2443]

What’s funny is if there was an expansion draft it would go something like this

[@at0mly]

Klay has made more while injured than he did total the entire time he played.

[@supersammich344]

Is Kevin Love really the 10th worst contract in the NBA right now? He has been having a stellar season so far. 64.2% TS, 24.7 PER, 8.9 BPM, .264 WS/48. Absolutely insane numbers.

[@dmoney5100]

His contract is still ass and we don’t know if he can maintain this play becuz rn he’s on some shit😬

[@dqsmooth34]

The way the league is now, you're gonna have to pay 10-20 million a year, per player for roster spots 6-10. You have to make smart moves for productivity for the money, But it's pretty hard to call contracts in the range "bad" imo

[@amc1140]

Facts, THT could retire and it still wouldn't be a "bad" contract

[@armin38822]

I watch a lot of basketball content from The Ringer and I watched even more from Grantland and I have to say that this sentence from Wosny at 1:16:00 is the greatest sentence in the histor of this platform.

[@bandocalrissianesq.9697]

Hard 2nd.

[@soundshape6496]

@@bandocalrissianesq.9697 first?

[@Chalk89]

Hahahahahh yo! I just fast forwarded to this and laughed so hard I woke up my pregnant wife. Was not expecting this!

[@ManFinest]

I like this Wosny guy

[@dfrnt_hues]

Klay at 7 hurt my soul but he’s right. Warriors have probably paid him 80M since he last played basketball. 😢

[@ladnil]

Klay has literally made more money in the last 2.5 years he's been injured than his entire career earnings before that. Horrible injury timing for the team.

[@gators9570]

Tbh I can’t call any contract for a key championship contributor bad. Klay was a huge contributor in 3 championships. There are multiple teams that haven’t won 1. You pay guys who win you championships

[@t4d0W]

Considering what Klay has accomplished for the team, that is just the price of doing business with him. Just sucks that he had that catastrophic injury. There are guys who have been paid around the same and weren't even amazing second options for their teams.

[@risingtoneofthemojo]

For the rookie ones I feel like you guys missed a golden opportunity with Marvin Bagley III

[@DaOtisElevator]

He’s still on a rookie deal lol, that’s not a bad contract. It will be expiring soon, they never offered an extension. He isn’t good but they could easily move him on that contract.

[@armin38822]

@@DaOtisElevator poor Marvin. I see him bouncing for a while around the league for like 3-4 years and then out of the league untill somebody needs like a 10 day contract or something.

[@t4d0W]

he hasn't hit his extension yet. He is as cheap any top 5 pick rookie.

[@Harry_Paratesties]

@@DaOtisElevator it is bad though. He's gotten 36 mill overall including 11 mill this year

[@DaOtisElevator]

@@Harry_Paratesties doesn’t matter it’s a rookie deal. His contract doesn’t hamper the team in any way. They simply won’t offer the qualifying offer next year, it’s not a big deal. It’s idiotic to think it’s one of the worst contracts in the league, there’s busts all the time.

[@chrislambert2443]

I see a lot of folks upset on here about the picks but just cause someone is a good player doesn’t mean they aren’t a bad contract. Jimmy B’s is more about the extension and how he’ll be making 50 million at like 36-37. Klay hasn’t played in 2 1/2 years. Ben Simmons you’re gonna be paying 40+ million to a guy who gives you 14-7-7. I liked their list Julius Randle should’ve been drafted though. That extension is nasty

[@gators9570]

Jimmy is currently playing the best basketball of his career though. So he hasn’t even started to decline like CP3 actually has. He seems like a Duncan type of player who will find a way to stay good as he ages. And the heats situation is perfect for his contract. They locked up Bam to inherit the number 1 option spot in the next year or 2. And they can lock up Herro when the time comes.

[@chrislambert2443]

@@gators9570 I guess it depends on what you consider a bad contract. Will he be worth that money in a few years? I’m gonna say no. Is it a cost the Heat are willing to live with? Obviously so.

[@hyperbomb02]

Love seeing THT here. Lakers must have had the worst off-season in the history of the NBA.

[@mayabergsdottir9622]

KCP, Kuz & Trezz all solid pieces in Wizards too 😄😄😐

[@tb7667]

There really aren't that many 'bad' contracts at the moment. Westbrook and Wall are both expiring after next season. It's not like 16-17 after all those terrible contracts got handed out.

[@nocuh]

During the pod I was thinking who the number 1 would have been in Jan 2017. All roads lead to Bismack Biyombo with Hassan Whiteside on his heels

[@tb7667]

@@nocuh Too many to mention. Mozgov and Deng to the lakers were awful. Batum's contract basically stopped the hornets being any good for 4 seasons.

[@athas12]

but that is the thing, if you trying to win a tittle with Russ, you have 91M in your book. You have to find a team that willng to spend 1/3 of their salary cap on Russ, and you have to make a salary match, and both are hard Same goes for Wall. Other contracts are just a matter of giving up a good player or future picks with to make it work.

[@tb7667]

@@athas12 Except next year, if you wanted to get rid of westbrook, there would be teams willing to trade for him just to clear the cap space in the following year. It's not a good contract, but not diabolical like some have been in the past. And worst case scenario, you are just stuck with him for another season and a half.

[@gators9570]

The bad contracts now are the rookie extensions honestly. Half of them pan out and half end up looking like trash

[@Zarbon000]

26:58 😂😂😂 Best moment on the show!

[@Nysackman]

Wos such a good addition to the ringer

[@riseofthebon3951]

Derozan deal with the Bulls went from being considered one of the worst by pundits to probably the steal of 2021-22

[@Walrus286]

Simmons, Butler, Klay, Bertans, Capella would be a fun starting 5 haha

[@Euclid06]

Commenters are SO HURT on a “fake draft” 😂😂😂 This is hilarious.

[@danielabatabogdanov8586]

Although maybe not as popular i miss the redrafts. Especially with Rusillo there ..

[@matt9143]

“He plays defence with his chest” -House

[@kevind4606]

This was a great pod. As a Denver fan, I'm conflicted about the MPJ at #2 pick. I hope Bill is wrong, but absolutely understand his logic.

[@calvinchapman8090]

As a Denver fan, I can't wait for MPJ to come back healthy and make the haters eat crow. Multiple chips in our future 💪🏾

[@ApjOASF]

@@calvinchapman8090 HAHAHAHA GOOD ONE

[@LiamborninDC]

All the NBA agents watching this video think that the title should be The Best NBA Contracts.

[@TheTEN24]

Glad to see MPJ and Kennard on the list. 2 most obvious what are they doing contracts I can remember of late. Like Wos picks and bill on the dinwiddie idk about first year after time off

[@Harry_Paratesties]

Not to mention the clippers traded saddiq bey for kennard. Saddiq is already a much better play on a deal 1/3rd the size

[@GuappoZaccagnino]

MPJ's a stud

[@TheTEN24]

@@GuappoZaccagnino he’s gotten much better

[@gmorris384]

“Comedy pick or who I should actually pick, you guys decide…” Drunk House “COMEDY PICK!” 😂

[@BardownHarv]

Are there more of these I can find? This pod was amazing

[@paulbaeza7]

The Mavs traded one player on this list for two players on this list and it has kinda worked. Spencer Dinwiddie been great since he was traded here.

[@victorvic4659]

You decide to upload every single pod🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 I like it,i rewatch it,even though i already listen this one

[@nilonen]

Wosny was great on this. Man is funny as hell and has some low key good takes.

[@jugo1944]

A 16 mil player at number 1 is not a good take

[@briggm]

Bertans is a bit like Matt Bullard from the 1990s or Steve Novak from the 2000s: 6'10 power forwards in name only, whose only transferable skill is shooting 3s. The difference is that those guys used to be 10th/11th men making 1 million a year.

[@DoobieKeebler]

Steve Novak is a player, who I would have been perfectly cool with having never been reminded of his name, again, for the rest of my life.

[@gahangore111]

That Siakam take has aged well 🤣🤣🤣

[@SLICENSLASH]

Wosny absolutely put together a Bad Contract AllStar team, lol 😂

[@robsmith5434]

Yea… some of his picks were insane. Jimmy Butler that high???

[@jonathans8760]

22:20 Bill Simmons wants to pair Luka with Ben Simmons so bad this dude thinks that Philly would do a three team deal where all they end up with is Brunson and Jusuf Nurkic? Why the hell would Philly want Nurkic when they have Embiid????

[@gators9570]

Why would Dallas want Simmons? Dude would get pissy that Luka is the number 1

[@zamis87]

He never said they would do that. I think he meant thats what would be required contractwise in the NBA trade machine.

[@mtaufanrp26]

I like the fact that Wos not trying to play safe here and spitting actual hot takes here and there.

[@BuffdatRatt]

I’ve watched this like 5x and it gets better every time

[@colethornton6263]

Jimmy Butler and D-Fox making appearances on this list shows you how wrong nba media can be

[@Mirjamvm]

I think that was kind of harsh to TJ McConnell. Dude is an absolute ballhawk, good penetrator, short, but good short range shooting, GREAT lockkerroom guy.

[@mitchellseeman4783]

Great podcast

[@hassanusmani5069]

1 year later.. the Fox take is pretty cold lol

[@davincerica7232]

52:27 Bill and House got a little nervous there :'D

[@larrylee7908]

Really, Norman Powell and Siakam? Before Duncan Robinson and Tim Hardaway Jr

[@Pacoag]

The Duncan Robinson deal really isnt that bad when you start thinking about it. He hasnt played great this year but hes still one of the better shooters in the NBA and has developed other parts of his game. Also, the Heat signed him using his bird rights so really at least for this year, it wasnt going to affect any other signing. Lastly, he isnt going to finish his contract with the Heat probably. They'll use his salary to match for another guy or as part of a package for a top trade target.

[@K_DC]

Some people mad at the Klay take. It's not wrong though. No games in two years, he's paid to rehab up until this point. Rehab is work, but in the totality of that contract divided by the number of games played; it is expensive like the rest of players on this list. Injuries is a fickle thing, gets tougher as a person gets older. Could also have a situation where shortly after he returns he gets injured again.

[@christophershaffer3921]

Averaging 22, on 50% shooting in the playoffs.

[@LouBang718]

This was great, you guys killed it 👏

[@ChiTown326]

The Fox conversation didn’t age well 😂😂

[@billyfresh23]

moral of this podcast is “beware of overpaying spot up shooters”

[@xavierjdesigns]

Can't wait to see where Fournier and Randle land

[@denniswise1460]

Yo. I swear.

[@n4cholas]

Fournier absolutely. Randle in comparison… they don’t build last years Knicks team without Randle there. I can’t find many PF like Randle but I can find a number like Fournier. So 18 mil for Randle, yeah (especially since they couldn’t anyone to come to NY at the time). Fournier 17 mil, no way

[@xavierjdesigns]

@@n4cholas nah I'm a Knicks fan. I've watched every game. Randle has been one of, of not the most detrimental players in the league when you consider his usage and low effectiveness. The stats completely support that. His on/off stats are horrible, despite them getting blown out the past 2 games without him. His effective FG% is 47%... 47%!. Pair that with a usage rate of 28%. They just resigned him for 4 yrs/$118M which kicks in next year. So yes, he's on absolutely one of worst contracts in the league.

[@dfrnt_hues]

That pfp is sick. What did you use to make it?

[@dfrnt_hues]

@@xavierjdesigns I was at the game he got boo’ed against the Wizards. He was sooooo bad, and refused to post up guards. Lol

[@Genesis_1984]

Woe House with the Grantland merch 🐐

[@mazzb305]

Duncan Robinson is looking like baby Bertans. He’s been wildly inconsistent since signing that contract.

[@RobShelley84]

Since podcasting :P

[@calebmorales6288]

And Max Strus is replacing his shooting while also being more viable in basically every other way for next to no money

[@mazzb305]

@@calebmorales6288 Absolutely. Strus has been awesome.

[@gators9570]

I trust Duncan’s competitive edge and his form a little more though

[@t4d0W]

I mean Bertrans was already mad inconsistent with the Spurs. Wizard decided to roll the dice with him with that much money. Robinson is more proven with his regular season and playoff performances. So the moment he can snap out of it before the playoffs then the Heat are still getting their money with a guy teams have to respect defensively in the post season.

[@danielroth3714]

Great pod. Wosny is hilarous.

[@enternamehere3690]

#1 pick is Russell Westbrook. Pretty clear to me

[@nicholastorrez5705]

Lol. John wall playing ball at the Y rn.

[@enternamehere3690]

@@nicholastorrez5705 ok. Dont know what your saying. Use some critical thinking skills and situational awareness. Houston's goal is lottery picks, LA's goal is championship.

[@franksound6922]

MPJ must be the worst contract in the biz at this point unless it s canceled due to career end

[@gators9570]

Westbrook and Walls contracts have the advantage over a lot of other ones rn that they end after next season

[@t4d0W]

@@franksound6922 his history injury and timing to go with his extension is AMAZING. Like Gilbert Arenas kept getting dem checks at the latter part of his career and getting bounced to teams with no deep playoff aspirations. But MPJ is getting it VERY early on.

[@deriusjones3024]

Micheal Porter Jr is from Seattle and I'm from Seattle. followed his college career where he turned down UW to go play at Missouri. Dating back to college he's always been injury prone and that's why he falled the draft. Denver should've waited for al least 1 more yr. but I'm glad he secured the bag

[@jlui21]

- As an individual, I'm glad he got paid. BUT as a opinionated Jokic supporter, it was bad to give MPJ that much money based on his injury history.

[@rodaxel7165]

You guys should do the best contracts in the NBA. Best value for what they're getting paid. Alex Caruso. 4 yr 37m. I know he's missed some games. He can start or come off the bench, be your 2nd or 3rd ball handler or run the 2nd unit. Play both ends. Elite defensively, can guard star guatds on the other team. Decent 3pt but also great as a cutter. Plays well with other stars. Lebron, Demar, AD and Zach etc. Biggest mistake the Lakers made was not keeping him.

[@robsmith5434]

Seth Curry. Averaging 16 ppg, shoots 45% from 3 almost every season, and is only making $8 million a year. He’s a steal. Would probably get a Davis Bertans contract if he was a free agent right now.

[@larryfranklin2681]

Im at 16 so maybe they mention him later but Duncan Robinson has to be mentioned. I guess him being in the media now and Bill is probably cool with him. Joe Harris has much more dimensions to his game than Robinson and Robinson has turned into a full time podcaster after getting that contract

[@sambroaddus4802]

Was about to say that lol

[@tj-23]

Duncan went through a slump and has been shooting 40 percent from three the last month and a half.. what are you talking about?

[@gators9570]

Duncan actually stopped podcasting so much and has been playing far better as of late. And when he’s shooting like he was the past 2 years he’s actually worth that money

[@Pacoag]

terrible take on robinson lol

[@jahnpilz6163]

This take aged well

[@Yourztrulydaboy]

“White Ish Smith” 💀 im fucking dead

[@patricija4179]

I am at number 8 and i dont see Westbrook.... Trade me any player from that group and here you go and deal with Russ

[@markmaniagaming5411]

Fuck no

[@letstalk140]

Russ is not the worst contract in the league hes not top 10 worst. Its crazy how ppl are disrespecting him

[@tb7667]

I get its fashionable now to talk about how much Simmons sucks, but he is getting woefully undervalued. It isn't a coincidence that Philly have gone from a 1 seed to fighting to avoid the play-in this year. Saying he is a 'glorified role player' is complete nonsense.

[@arbernumani3709]

He is a good player but he’s not as good as he thinks is

[@MasterResolve]

And they were nearly unbeatable when embiid was hurt while Ben ran the team a few years ago.

[@2tiddies404]

crazy how he went from being considered one of the best two way players in the league, to being considered a bum. After one playoff run

[@SomeChink]

@@2tiddies404 it really wasn’t just one playoff run, if you’ve been paying attention. regular season basketball and trying to win a title are basically different sports.

[@brianb1503]

@@SomeChink amen!!! as a Sixer fan who literally doesn’t miss a game…I know all too well what Ben is and isn’t. BB had to start TJ to avoid a sweep to the Celtics, he then had to take the ball and give it to Jimmy the next year, missed the bubble and then last year was the next year where yea we stomped the Wiz but he was not good there and then we all know what happened the next round. Literally every PO he’s been a disaster.

[@tmcquern]

Whenever you listen to a Bill Simmons podcast you realize why he's the goat over all these other media guys

[@Jack-jx6ln]

Wos was spot on about Denver when he was saying the core of Murray, MPJ, Gordon and Jokic was worth it

[@tylerbriggs310]

This is an interesting topic but at the same time idk how to feel about it. Its a lot of recency bias. Also injuries are hard to predict. So many factors play into a players value. I blame it on the team or coaching for not using that player correctly. And then chemistry between players can be a problem too. A lot of the players on this list are still relevant players and can be viewed as legit contracts depending on what happens in the future. For instance, Luka Doncic could tear his knee tonight and be considered a bad contract. A lot of variables

[@liferealgood]

My goodness I’m a Knicks fan and I’m at pick 2 and I am counting my lucky stars we don’t have those contracts but I know we coming up at some point.

[@sparksdrinker5650]

Yeah that Randle contract is looking worse and worse. 2 points in 34 minutes last night.

[@liferealgood]

@@sparksdrinker5650 he needs to see a sports psychologist I think. It’s not like he’s injured he’s just mentally broken. Like a kicker.

[@justinboyce1285]

No way Gordon Hayward is the 25th worst contract. He is top 15 for sure 😄 🤣

[@SwypeTee]

Harris contract I did not understand maybe 65-80 mill long term at that time. Lol crazy

[@undergrounddojokeyboardcag701]

For any youngins who don't know what Bill Simmons was talking about with his Knicks handing out insane contracts comment. In 2003, 2004, 2005, this era, Izzy was acting GM of the Knicks and any time a player put up like 20 points, he would give them a max or near max contract. It was so out of control that in one of those years, i think it was 2004, im being lazy. Their salary cap was so high that even with today's salary cap, 2022 salary cap, they'd still be over it. And we're talking nearly 20 years ago.

[@Melquiades_]

Tobias Harris should have been a top 5 pick IMO

[@robsmith5434]

He was close to an All Star last year… but he’s been pretty bad this year and is definitely way overpaid.

[@ZombieLincoln666]

Philly fans go overboard on how bad he is. It’s a bad contract but he’s at least a pretty good player who isn’t injured all the time

[@WheresWaldo05]

He should be on a zach lavine contract. Not a max contract

[@iculus3333]

Gary Harris….seriously. How could you miss a two guard who makes 20+ to play d and miss 3 pointers?

[@skylertaylor7283]

The MPJ contract was criminal negligence. Jamal was too

[@TheKnicksRealist]

I haven’t watched it yet but Evan Fournier better be here😂

[@joshhenderson3973]

This didn't age well for Wos

[@zamis87]

The last year of the contract is usually not so bad. Because then the contract has good value as a large expiring.

[@zache5486]

Watching the Ben Simmons trade idea after the Simmons/Harden trade is fun. Brunson, Kistaps (who was traded for peanuts in a salary dump), and Covington? Nope

[@cybersub4693]

This is fabulous.

[@dearmas9068]

"Just speaks valiums" 🤣 -Wos

[@2kbk926]

Can Bill spend some of that Spotify money to get Wos a functioning mic/mic stand/p guard/ audio setup in general

[@j4min1]

Maybe get rid of him because he is awful

[@armin38822]

@@j4min1 I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that you are white

[@NASS.D]

Fact that none of them has Tobias Harris up there says a lot

[@seventyfive7597]

Joe's said it: Bertans is NO LONGER a good enough shooter for his pay, not even close, and also he's the worst defender on every team his at, even on bad teams. Great pick.

[@GmkSuperstars]

That klay take is wild 🤣

[@2020-q1p]

Need more Bill and Wos.