Bill Simmons’s NBA Fake Trade Draft | The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Rob Mahoney, Kevin O’Connor, and Chris Ryan to have their very first Fake NBA Trade Draft.
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[@grapplerke]

Kyrie just killed this episode lol

[@ronmexico7256]

Kyrie requests a trade every 6 months ain’t nobody taking him serious 😂

[@jamesmiller5331]

And his third franchise

[@RichD2024]

Kyrie is the gift that keeps on giving

[@WheresWaldo05]

The guy on the bottom left killed this video with his terrible mock trades that make zero sense for both sides. Value wise.

[@braydenhutson2860]

Just added to the list of reasons for bill to fucking hate him

[@benjaminlink4844]

Bill, can you please bring back redraftables for the 2011 and 2012 drafts? Your fans would love to see it.

[@Tomatobasil-v9y]

He did them on Spotify

[@benjaminlink4844]

@@Tomatobasil-v9y Bill Simmons did 2011? I can't seem to find it.

[@Tomatobasil-v9y]

@@benjaminlink4844 nah bro I'm sorry my mistake I was wrong

[@benjaminlink4844]

@@Tomatobasil-v9y haha you’re good

[@TannerLikesStuff]

Bill combining two of his four favorite topics in a new way always cracks me up

[@jaceeedition18]

This is the most Bill Simmons Pod ever

[@charliebanks605]

"The Lakers game plan is always pray for chaos" he clearly knew Kyrie's heart! Lmfao

[@unhandytrain9736]

5:02 lmao the timing

[@michaelreid5615]

im dying

[@kaceydillin7367]

Wish you would put full video of podcasts up.

[@cptsketch13]

Ringer has a deal with Spotify they can't upload whole shows to KZbin anymore just clips of the pod now

[@kaceydillin7367]

@@cptsketch13 not worth. I love the Ringer, but Spotify is worse in every way than youtube premium.

[@dfrnt_hues]

@@cptsketch13 sooooo that’s why. I’ve been wondering what the deal is

[@drewammons1525]

@@cptsketch13 I tried to listen to the podcast on Apple Podcasts but it’s edited so shitty I assume it’s not like that on Spotify it’s weird

[@turk3sh]

@@cptsketch13 I miss the rewatchables

[@pruney84]

"we are putting this podcast up right after we finish, who the hell knows what's gonna happen" CLAIRVOYANT BILL IS BACK😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@hattyhat]

I can’t look at the dude in the top left without thinking he looks like the ikea guy meme vid

[@Dr.GillPeakPerformance_DPT]

1:22:39 "This Kyrie resurgence, we'll see how long it lasts..." Didn't take too long to see.

[@skatedurr]

[@SargentPeppers7]

It can last in Dallas tho lol

[@_Xds_]

​@@SargentPeppers7 oof

[@SargentPeppers7]

@@_Xds_ in all fairness dallas was a shitshow before kyrie even got there

[@_Xds_]

@@SargentPeppers7 it's not kyries fault they suck. It's what they traded for him.

[@le9335]

This group is very very funny. 10/10. *nba knowledge through the roof of course. Forgot to add.

[@fentanyljones6956]

It’s surreal watching yall talk about Ben Simmons when he actually played some games kinda right in the middle of his unravelling.

[@WizardofWestmarch]

lol the wild card conversation about the Nets at the end. hahahahahhaa

[@marcuslquevedo]

DLo a spiritual Clipper is hilarious 😆

[@David-iv6je]

34:05 A concept from economics. This is called the sunk cost fallacy. "the phenomenon whereby a person is reluctant to abandon a strategy or course of action because they have invested heavily in it, even when it is clear that abandonment would be more beneficial." 58:00 On Nurkic: the guy never lived up to his promise. The fluky Blazers run to the WCF (for a GSW sweep on the road to their chip) was when Nurkic was out with a broken leg. He has never leveled them up at all, and could even be dragging them down.

[@michaelstover6778]

Bill with that Prichard trade for Vanderbilt was soo homerish

[@forestforest1859]

Very homo

[@gators9570]

So embarrassing. If that’s all the jazz got for vandy my god

[@_Xds_]

​@Gators95 well yall got nothing anyways 😂

[@joegamble6598]

As a Hawks fan the Tony Ressler son line hurt and was funny😂

[@CuriosityIgnited]

Bill Simmons bringing the heat with his NBA fake trade draft on The Bill Simmons Podcast, time to see if he can make some fantasy trades a reality.

[@CraigMartell-cn1im]

KOC would trade his first born child for any future late 1st round baby.

[@Whiteguyvideogames]

KOC basically spent the whole episode drafting project QBs. His team owner would fire him tomorrow 🤣

[@danhaup]

It's been 0 days without an incident.

[@BeMoreFunny]

* Chaos Irving has entered the chat *

[@OneWeekGetAway]

Nurkic, Grant and Hart for Fournier, RJ, Obi, Hartensan, and Reddish. Dame gets to run with Simmons, RJ, Obi and Hartensan. NY can insert Grant in the starting lineup - he can also backup Randle - Hart can be a defensive wing off the bench, and Nurkic backs up the oft injured Mitch Robinson.

[@fentanyljones6956]

Nah that first pick w/ Phoenix was fire. Imagine if Phoenix had a competent facilitator.

[@BuffSullivan]

I swear listening to these dudes pitch trades it’s like they’ve never even watched the nba before, had to turn it off at 15 mins. John Collins a versatile defender?!? Phoenix trading Ayton, Crowder, and 2 picks for OG, Collins, and FVV?!? Straight up embarrassingly stupid in like 4 different ways.

[@Obiamajoyisrmd]

Stupid comment

[@scottipippen6554]

"NBA Amnesia." Bill is the best...lmao

[@lukeosborne2728]

I loved this

[@cameronshurig6602]

Great episode

[@feelsgoodman420]

Every trade idea involves toronto getting screwed

[@JohnnyCashavetes]

It's so funny LeBron sabotaged the latter stage of his basketball career to make Space Jam 2.

[@David-iv6je]

Great avatar! Iggy...

[@shawna4309]

@@David-iv6je Gonzalez

[@David-iv6je]

@@shawna4309 Wut? That's Iggy Pop on the cover of "Lust for Life"

[@shawna4309]

@@David-iv6je Uh, Gonzalez?

[@zachnantz5304]

you gotta be real slow to actually believe he went to LA for space jam 2 lmao

[@2878robert]

Bill can you please rewatch superman 2 and post it. We would love it.

[@knowsmebyname]

Not a Laker fan but agree with Bill. Not championship year for Lakers. Sign Kyrie and keep the picks in the off season. How does this not make sense?

[@johansoderberg6546]

Bill Simmons the King of hypotheticals.

[@recotruesdale2829]

love how bill always goes out of his way to dismiss the lakers 2020 title, the same title that the Celtics had an opportunity to win, but couldn't.

[@ngkky]

Bill Simmons, the Celtics homer who is still undermining and smearing the basketball career of the great Julius Erving to prop up his hero Larry Bird.

[@ronmexico7256]

2020 is kind of a joke but a ring is a ring, 20 years from now nobody gonna remember about the bubble anyway. The Celtics definitely wasted 2 great opportunities and you never know if you’ll get another one the nba be crazy like that

[@BolshevikChris]

@@ronmexico7256 I get that 2020 was different but like, did you watch the bubble playoffs? They were intense. The players were isolated from their families and their homes. The games were tough and there was less time between games. Why is it a joke just cause it was different?

[@ronmexico7256]

@@BolshevikChris offence increased pretty drastically in the pre playoff seeding games and that trend continued into the playoffs were additionally the 3p% actually increase which virtually never happens in the playoff. Whether it was the lack of fans or lack of travel there were plenty of guys blowing their career numbers out the water

[@superdopehiphop]

@@ronmexico7256 lakers were 24-3 and 48-13 (65 win pace which is elite) BEFORE Covid while beating other top3 contenders in March right before Covid break Clippers/Bucks.

[@Anthonystark63]

The trade for Phoenix is absolutely terrible. You're going small for a that needs quality size unless you're expecting biyombo or landale to start alongside collins)

[@GigglesHinders]

I think Pop would commit acts of violence against Ben Simmons, if he were traded to SA

[@Anthonyfpm20]

I think Sochan and Ben are too similar type of players for that trade to make sense

[@mambaASI]

Pop is probably one of the only coaches that can get him back to playing like philly simmons. If the trade cost is low it might be worth the experiment.

[@WheresWaldo05]

Ayton and 2 firsts for Anunoby alone is a hard no lmao. Little lone Vleet with Anunoby. And Saric and old Crowder to hawks for Collins? Are you serious right now with your back to back trashy trades? At least add Cam Johnson to the Hawks and its def possible. And then add some more seconds to the raptors recieving and suns taking back another multi year bad contract like Boucher or Young and we can start to talk. Suns: Anunoby, VanVleet, Collins, Boucher, Birch Hawks: Cam Johnson, Crowder, Saric Raptors: CP3, Ayton, 2024 Suns 1st, 2026 Suns 1st, 2023 Suns 2nd, 2025 Suns 2nd Works in the trade machine. (Nbafanspo trade machine. The only legit machine)

[@jacobellis9419]

Dame & Portland need saved so badly

[@BWalker9313]

I think the Kings need to be in on OG. Holmes, Mitchell and picks for OG and Precious Chimezie Metu and Terance Davis for Patrick Beverley. Those are my trades for the Kings. That would make them a legit threat

[@nassirz237]

Bill Simmons is the biggest lebron skeptic of all time. Every compliment is followed by a shady explanation

[@1thoughtfantasy59]

Classic bill Simmons pod

[@fkp1692]

I'm going to predict that Kyrie Irving goes to the Dallas Mavericks and Kevin Durant goes to Phoenix Suns. I know both scenarios sound crazy but that's what I think is going to happen

[@fentanyljones6956]

That first Lakers trade homie mentioned would have been good for them. GT jr and Fred would open shit up for Lebron to cook.

[@camerondowner4897]

KOC that's a huge price tag for Zach LaVine to the Knicks

[@digdug1577]

i am so glad we dont have to talk about kyrie. what a premadona. his temper tantrums dont mean we need to create unnecessary content. btw. send him to the worse team and next year and lets not talk anymore about it. keep up the good work. hopefully this years trades ramp up sonwe have an exciting post allstar break and some interesting story lines.

[@Obiamajoyisrmd]

Stupid comment

[@digdug1577]

@@Obiamajoyisrmd kanobi for the the win!

[@johngomez2138]

So I already knew this BUT just confirmation...I fckin love KOC! Like he's just the best watch

[@brandumb925]

where has chris ryan been? does he host or appear on other pods?

[@eriksports]

He hosts the watch and appears on the big picture

[@michaelconstantinemiranda2352]

No one talked about any team trading for eric gordon. I wish the Bucks would try to make a move for him.

[@benjihuynh2970]

Why can't KOC just learn to say "Jakob Poeltl?"

[@josephirving7336]

Does it take 2 first rounders to get THT back?!?!?

[@joshdarius5995]

And keep Westbrick

[@davidisrael9799]

If the Kings can get Siakam without giving up Fox or Sabonis, they'd be my dark horse WCF team.

[@1Hannibal33]

They could, but it would take 4 unprotected firsts and pick swaps

[@asufluffhead]

This was a cool format before I realized all these guys sitting in their houses do this for a living.

[@RealMikeMiller13]

59:00 dame is like that girl that lets you cheat on her over & over & over again, & will always take you back 😅

[@jef_freely]

Kyrie to PHX for CP3 and a pick CP3 in Brooklyn makes much more sense than Westbrook, how bad would that make KD want out!? CP3 on the other hand would elevate this roster like no other. Still a contender with more cerebral playmaking floor general, potentially getting more out of everyone else. A stable contract and guy to pair with KD to win it all. Phx obviously gets their pg for the next five years you’d hope that’d help you contend longer.

[@luke9648]

KOC comes in and says... Ayton Crowder and 2 Suns 1sts= VanVleet OG and John Collins????????????? Yeahyeahyeah. Suresuresure. Great trade bro. EDIT: And it's not even a 3 way trade!!! That's 2 seperate Suns trades.

[@samplestar390]

From a Spurs fan, Bill stop talking about Ben Simmons to the Spurs you gotta relax bro

[@jackbombay1423]

This is funnier after Kyrie´s trade. RIP Mavs.

[@TheWatcher1009]

Pass on Beal at this point, it's just Kuz and Kristaps lifting the Wiz

[@genxtasy9914]

Ben "Griffin" Simmons

[@solomonjohnson7507]

Afraid of Miami oh no haha

[@ibramed8277]

Why would Toronto do such a stupid trade?

[@haHAAAAAAA3]

philly to dc is more like 2-2.5 hours, great epi tho

[@GrinsGreen]

I have feeling like Harrison Barnes has a lot of common in style and role as James Worthy. And i would prefer having him instead of Crowder probably in most teams except Miami maybe)

[@trevordunn3728]

Only thing they have in common is they both went to North Carolina

[@WheresWaldo05]

Kings were trash offensively when they just played my wolves in back to back games.

[@1thoughtfantasy59]

We just lost to the magic

[@WheresWaldo05]

@@1thoughtfantasy59 And? They are 16-12 in their last 28 games since starting 5-20 in their firdt 25 games where they all of their guards were out and injured. So i fail to understand your point. They just beat the fully healthy 76ers. Have beaten the Celtics (best team in the league currently) three times. So again i ask, what is your point?

[@bookaufman9643]

If Golden State can't get Caruso then maybe go with Jakob Poeltl in a straight-up trade for James Wiseman? I think the Warriors would get a lot better and they need some help at the center position that James can't give them right now.

[@Jackson-xm6xb]

Warriors would need to give up more then Wiseman to get Poeltl

[@bookaufman9643]

@@Jackson-xm6xb not much more though. Let's not forget he was the number to overall pick and is incredibly athletically talented. The Warriors run a very complex system and young players normally have trouble adapting.. I think some coaches or general managers are going to be aware that in a different kind of system James Wiseman might be able to adapt and exceed expectations much quicker than expected so far. I know the trade deadlines not over but it's really looking like the Warriors are just going to stay with what they have. They're starting five is the best starting five according to the but they have a pretty thin bench and become very over-reliant on Steph Curry. But if this team is healthy, at the start of the playoffs they will be a difficult team to have to deal with.

[@superdopehiphop]

Best I’ve seen live in 1500+ NBA games (season tickets center court row9-13 since mid 80s) are MJ=LeBron Magic Bird Hakeem

[@Bossanovawitcha]

Ayton would be solid next to Pascal.. He’s better, younger than Gobert and doesn’t have a 5 year max.. and comes a lot cheaper to acquire..

[@Chris-of4fd]

3 Team trade Minnesota: Immanuel Quickley, Evan Fournier, and Cam Reddish Dallas: DLo, Naz Reid NYK: Christian Wood, Josh Green, and Reggie Bullock Min gets a starting PG that fits with Ant, Dallas gets a second creator next to Luka in the Brunson mold and potentially an upgrade at center, Knicks get 3 rotation players for the price of 1 and improve their depth. Additional modification options: Frank N to wolves and Dallas can have one of Nowell, Forbes, Knight, and Rivers Josh Green to Minnesota, Reddish stays with NYK, Dallas protected first to NYK

[@michaelconstantinemiranda2352]

Why would the knicks get christian wood. They already have an allstar PF and Tibs is just gonna bench Wood cuz he sucks on defense. What the knicks need is someone that can play with brunson in the backcourt.

[@Chris-of4fd]

@Michael Constantine Miranda they already have RJ and Grimes in the back court. This turns one bench player into 3 and the Knicks need that depth. Or they could do this for another pick to help package for a star.

[@michaelconstantinemiranda2352]

@@Chris-of4fd RJ is more of a 3 than a 2. Grimes, as good as he has been for them, they need an upgrade over him at that SG position. They already have Toppin as a back up 4. Adding Wood will just create a log jam for them. As far as adding depth goes, this doesnt move the needle for them either. Reddish and Bullock are pretty much the same player. IQ is a much better player than green and Wood again isn't really addressing a need for them and overall a bad fit.

[@michaelconstantinemiranda2352]

If I were the knicks I'd try to explore a trade to possibly get eric gordon. But if the rockets asking price is too much, then they should just target thybulle or Gary Trent jr. I think Philly would take either fornier or reddish plus a 2nd rd pck for thybulle.

[@mambaASI]

nuggets really need to go for OG. Give up MPJ, braun and 2 firsts. If the raps are high on MPJ they'll do it. OG will put them over the top to win at least one chip in the next few years.

[@arncj18]

wtf isn't the Tom Hanks interview in video format on spotify

[@brandonbossert8258]

As a Spurs fan, I want nothing to do with Ben Simmons. Pass easily. I'd rather go for an interesting young player, or continue acquiring tangible draft capital. Everything I've seen in the last two seasons of Simmons is, that he's not focused or motivated for the love of the game. He's talented, but not a gym rat type player. You can keep that scrub.

[@FactsAboutTheWorld.]

Kyrie to the Lakers!

[@WheresWaldo05]

Wiseman for Caruso is never happening. Lol. The bulls are on the record for saying they want two 1st round picks for Caruso since hes a top 3 defender in the league. At worst top 5. At worst would habw to be Wiseman and a 1st.

[@nikolakrstic8079]

the stupidest trade proposal I ever heard lmao

[@mambaASI]

lmaoo caruso aint worth 2 first round picks. He's not even the bulls starting pg right now. He plays 24 mins per game. You really expect another team to give up 2 firsts for a 28 year old pg that doesn't even start on his current team?? The overvaluation here is actually insane.

[@WheresWaldo05]

@@nikolakrstic8079 Yeah no shyt. Take it up with the bulls.

[@WheresWaldo05]

@@mambaASI Take it up with the bulls. Im just a messenger. I wouldnt give up two 2nd rounders for Caruso.

[@scottwalters9440]

Dudes. I love your show. But how can the 4 of you collectively thing the raptors would ever do that trade??

[@jackbotyt4602]

Bill sayinf Jordan Nwora is pretty good is proof that he’s not watching any of these games. I watch him almost every game on the Bucks and he’s terrible

[@saucedo_]

5:11 lmao

[@luke9648]

Ya know when a dude gets paid and they stop trying??? Happens all the time. Did KOC recently sign a new contract?

[@shorewall]

Every time he's on he makes me mad. :D

[@michaelconstantinemiranda2352]

If Philly is trading for someone. It should be eric gordon!

[@tomdavis3878]

You don't have to protect Mike Schur's identity Bill. Anyone who watches any LeBatard Show knows he's the dude you're talking about who's obsessed with Miami.

[@joshawarapin]

Lakers- Irving, Winslow, Mills Nets- Lillard Portland- Westbrook, 3- 1st round picks.

[@X5J2UY]

What? Lillard is worth at least 5 1st round picks and at least one great role player

[@joshawarapin]

@@X5J2UY Yah true. This also gives Portland a shot at the 5th worst record for Victor. Plus They don't have to pay Dame all that money and Westbrooks contract is done after this year? Idk? I doubt Dame would leave any ways. Haha

[@thedoranwilliamsshow6863]

Trae Young to The Phoenix Suns: Phoenix gets Trae Young and Onyeka Okongwu. Atlanta gets Chris Paul, Mikal Bridges, and a future 1st round pick.

[@michaelconstantinemiranda2352]

Atlanta ain't doing that. I think the suns should try to work with the nets about a cp3 and ayton plus picks for kyrie and claxton.

[@thedoranwilliamsshow6863]

Atlanta has two problems: 1. The front office hates this team and Trae Young is HIGHLY expendable with that 210 mil contract. 2. They need first round picks (In the worst way) Bonus. Having two star point guards is not a way to win big. Might as well trade the one that doesn't play defense.

[@michaelconstantinemiranda2352]

@@thedoranwilliamsshow6863 as much as I agree with you, but trading him for a washed up cp3 and another wing when they already have a log jam in that position doesnt make any sense. And the front office is too dumb to realize that moving on from trae is probably the best way to go.

[@thedoranwilliamsshow6863]

@@michaelconstantinemiranda2352 Chris Paul is a great mentor, plus his value is getting Trae Young (And his five years) off the books. Collins and Bridges are a quick, explosive frontcourt and Hunter can take his rightful spot off the bench. Also they get a first round pick that could be valuable as a trade piece in the future

[@michaelconstantinemiranda2352]

But if they are really gonna trade trae, I think the pelicans would be their best trade partner. McCollum, Valenciunas and Trey murphy plus any of 13 first round pick they own for trae young and Capella is a nice conversation to had. It basically address issues for both team. Pelicans finally get a true pg and rim protector they need. The Hawks gets a post threat which clearly they have 0 on the roster right now. A versatile stretch 4 and mccollum is more of 2 than a 1, he's not that really great on defense but he's not a liability like trae, and he's better playing off the ball rather than being the lead man.

[@thomasshelly7712]

Matisse and Furkan plus a second for Caruso. Jaden and house for Drummond

[@Mskedu47]

Bill still thinks Mobley isn’t just a role player

[@hussassain2745]

Hawks not taking that poopoo ass return for JC lol

[@brendantoungate8287]

I think Ben Simmons on the Spurs might make Pop retire. Simmons doesn't seem to have any competitive fire at all.

[@allensterling2941]

NO WAY…Tobias and Maxey for Brad Beal. Beal is older and injury prone

[@marklavallee1699]

Ayton/Paul for Young/Capela... Both walk away from their frustrations

[@waggleparty]

Bill calling Chris Ryan "CR" is annoying me for some reason. Saying Chris isn't that hard.

[@shorewall]

It's actually easier than saying CR. :D

[@tjstreys]

Not one trade to help Luka get a second star?

[@mysterirhys]

You lost me with the Wiseman for Caruso idea. I’m a dubs fan, but there’s no way they’re winning another title this year, not even with the mighty Caruso in the fold. Trading any of their youth is a huge mistake. It’s time to start looking forward and we need the kids for that.

[@X5J2UY]

Would agree with you if we were talking about kaminga. But Wiseman is a certified flop at this point. Very injury prone and when he plays, he is disappointing. I would trade him in a heartbeat.

[@mysterirhys]

@@X5J2UY do you recall Embid’s first two years? Young bigs need to grow into their bodies. Seems to me we can afford to be patient. This team isn’t winning a title this year anyway.

[@X5J2UY]

@@mysterirhys I remember young Joel. He was injured, but showed flashes of his dominance. Things that can't be said of Wiseman. I don't see him becoming more than an average big. His footwork and touch are pretty average and he still struggles to keep up with the game and make the right reads. Easier to trade him now and make people think that he could still become good than the other way around.

[@mysterirhys]

@@X5J2UY how much have you seen of Wiseman? I haven’t seen any negatives that can’t be put down to inexperience. His biggest issue is a lack of court time.

[@ninjastyle916]

No way am I trading Harrison Barnes and I'm definitely not giving up a pick... Terrible

[@nicholasrehenry]

KOC trade for raptors is awful for the raptors …. They might as well just let Fred leave on a free

[@qjsmith5900]

Bill is going to crying when the Lakers get Kyrie

[@aaronr1039]

Kyrie going to the Suns Book it 👀👀

[@grapeape1965]

Injured Porter, FVV, and Trent doesn’t make the lakers any sort of contender. Pass

[@mambaASI]

pelicans need a big that can defend and space the floor next to zion. JV is a solid rebounder and offensive option in the paint. Not much of a defender and shooter. Creates spacing issues for zion and puts more pressure on zion on defense. A guy like maxi kleber could be more useful than JV for this team.

[@LukaLegend77]

im sorry but the only sensible person with their trades n comments was KOC, the other 3 made me question how are they getting paid for this

[@le0np0we]

Called Ben Simmons a griffon smdh

[@NoFrenemiesAllowed]

LeBron signed in LA to break Kareem's record; and to be near his kids attending basketball academy's. He thought he could bully the Lakers like he did in Cleveland. I think his is one of the greatest players to play the game but Jordan willed his way to 6 championships and LeBron was Charles Barkley under a better CBA Agreement.

[@seanpidduck]

Lmaoooooo the Bulls had the best coach of all time. Pippen was a top 5 player and they had so many good pieces like Rodman etc. MJ was a beast but let's not pretend he wasn't blessed with an all time great front office and team. Lebron been carrying dead franchises for 2 decades at this point. Only time he didn't was miami and they were a great team

[@Obiamajoyisrmd]

Stupid comment

[@lonmaranadeo5187]

Vanderbilt for Pritchard, shut up Bill. Selling Pritchard af.👎 They shouldnt make those silly trade for their favorite team.