Can Anyone Else Score 40,000 Points Like LeBron James? | The Bill Simmons Podcast

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The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Ryen Russillo to talk about LeBron James surpassing 40,000 scored points-and whether anyone else can do it.
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@thegman8
@thegman8 6 ай бұрын
40K = Productivity (27.1 PPG Career) X Longevity (21 Seasons) X Availability (70.2 games/Season Career)
@TheNamelessOne19
@TheNamelessOne19 6 ай бұрын
Yes, and no matter how you adjust the numbers in that formula, getting to 40,000 is almost impossible. For example, if you increase the PPG to 32 (two higher than MJ or Wilt by the way) and lower the availability to 65 games (still 80% played) to adjust for current trends, you still need 19 full seasons with zero decline for age to achieve 40k. Almost impossible, really.
@anthonyrivera2306
@anthonyrivera2306 6 ай бұрын
@@TheNamelessOne19 The only possible way is if a player pulls out a Brady and plays until 45 or 46. And even I doubt someone plays that long.
@blue-pi2kt
@blue-pi2kt 6 ай бұрын
@anthonyrivera2306 Lebron will play another two seasons barring injury and will probably finish with near 45k 12k 12k. There is nearly a zero percent chance a player will join the league so young, be so good, so fast, be so trusted with the team and be so maniacal about their body that they can get there.
@gf4670
@gf4670 6 ай бұрын
Yeah there are too many headwinds. LBJ played the first half of his career in a different era where star players regularly played 80 games. If a 28ppg player sits 10 games for rest they lose 280 pts a season x 20 is 5,600. I mean I think there will be some who can still be the best player on a team at 40, but the question is whether they'd still even want to play that long. There are so many more avenues for athletes now to make money and stay relevant, and staying a top player in your 30s kind of sucks as a life with the training and diet and the grind of the season. For LBJ these aggregate career numbers became his thing in the GOAT debate; it's what he set his eyes on after 2016. And once we get past this current crop of guys who are like 35 I really don't see the younger guys playing much past like 32; it's just not worth it anymore.
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 6 ай бұрын
@@gf4670LeBron played 74+ games in 13 of his first 15 seasons (up through 2017-18), and averaged 76 games per season and 38.75 minutes per game through that span. Do you think we’ll see many players do that now? Minor by comparison, but LeBron also went straight to the NBA out of high school when prep to pro players were a thing. The scoring record he’ll end up with will be very hard to top.
@thetrib1
@thetrib1 6 ай бұрын
Lol love the true and quick answer from Ryen off rip 😂
@Milan_N13
@Milan_N13 6 ай бұрын
Until we see 17/18 year olds come to the league and be starters immediately like LeBron, Kobe and KG we won't see another player reach 40k points.
@Youralwayswhining4367
@Youralwayswhining4367 6 ай бұрын
Kobe wasn't a starter
@JP-Esq
@JP-Esq 6 ай бұрын
You wait til Silver zags on the league and two years from now, introduces a 4 pt line 28" out. Everyone who stays healthy will end up 40k pts
@noblue72
@noblue72 6 ай бұрын
If Lebron wants to compete for championships, he needs to take a paycut, whether he stays with the Lakers or not. He he thinks a ring is out of reach, then he should just go for max money.
@BWALL4LIFE
@BWALL4LIFE 6 ай бұрын
Bill Simmons is Skip Bayless w/o swag.
@Von199X
@Von199X 6 ай бұрын
You gotta be a genetic freak , watch what you eat for 20 years and train your body consistently ,never get injured play 75+ games every season, score 25 a night since day 1 to even stand a chance. I think it will we impossible to break it if he reaches 45k points
@CollaredConsulting
@CollaredConsulting 6 ай бұрын
And best PEDS
@adamwehri
@adamwehri 6 ай бұрын
@@CollaredConsulting okay? You still gotta put in the work.
@12gark
@12gark 5 ай бұрын
​​@@CollaredConsultingof that was the reason LeBron scored 40k, than the record is going to be broken, because better PEDS are coming out every year. Instead, the more the time goes on, the least probable it seems someone will actually get him.
@manuginobilisbaldspot2
@manuginobilisbaldspot2 6 ай бұрын
Luka’s lack of dedication to fitness won’t give him the longevity Bron has had.
@turk3sh
@turk3sh 6 ай бұрын
That plus he said he doesn't want to play that long either
@Von199X
@Von199X 6 ай бұрын
Agree you gotta have that obsession in you like Cristiano Ronaldo and Giannis
@THE_BEAR_JEW
@THE_BEAR_JEW 6 ай бұрын
You can be fit and still not make it that long. Kobe was obsessed af and look how that turned out. Same goes for Karl Malone, who was seemingly indestructible until age 40. Luka can get in shape and it won't matter. You also need a ton of luck. Not just to avoid injuries but also to avoid genetic issues like degeneration of joints at an early age.
@kallyomega8925
@kallyomega8925 6 ай бұрын
Luka doesn’t want to play that long
@jonji-kz2nz
@jonji-kz2nz 6 ай бұрын
Luka is already behind pace also.
@killerk3431
@killerk3431 6 ай бұрын
How will this affect LeBron's legacy?
@nine3seven
@nine3seven 6 ай бұрын
Corny 🌽
@financialliteracy1014
@financialliteracy1014 6 ай бұрын
I’m not sure Skip
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 6 ай бұрын
It’s affects his legacy slightly more than the fall of Constantinople, I’ll say that.
@luissamayoa8144
@luissamayoa8144 6 ай бұрын
FIRST QUESTION TO ALWAYS BE ASKING
@user-pm4ko9uk8g
@user-pm4ko9uk8g 6 ай бұрын
Nothing. Longevity alone he’s goated. But this sport is not only about longevity.
@rngesus6472
@rngesus6472 6 ай бұрын
People are forgetting that he has 8023 playoff points. When all said & done he will eclipse 50k points nobody is beating that record ever. The crazier thing is he has 10k assists & 11k rebounds. He's still got like 2 - 3 years it's absolutely mind blowing numbers.
@supdall345
@supdall345 6 ай бұрын
Just 153 assists shy of 11K as well, probably will just miss out on it this season but get it very early next season (assuming he doesn't retire).
@robesch88
@robesch88 6 ай бұрын
Purely cumulative stats. Winning and per game are more important. Malone was 2nd in scoring and top 10 in rebounds but nobody cared
@jayakrishna-fr6wv
@jayakrishna-fr6wv 6 ай бұрын
​@@robesch88 Because he played in Utah and he never won a championship....
@biggeneral1628
@biggeneral1628 6 ай бұрын
​@@robesch88that's a shite point since LeBron has elite per game numbers too
@supdall345
@supdall345 6 ай бұрын
@@robesch88 Doesn't work when LeBron has some of the best per game and advanced numbers of all time. At his peak he had arguably the greatest numbers ever, his 09 season was the best advanced season ever (including in the playoffs), amazing per game stats, and led his mediocre squad to league best 66 wins while being 2nd in DPOY voting/1st Team All D. Then led them to league best 61 wins the following season with similar numbers, winning another MVP and 1st Team All D. And of course his Miami numbers and efficiency is extremely impressive, as well as being the best perimeter defender in basketball and another runner up DPOY (which he should've won).
@jackjackthompson5771
@jackjackthompson5771 6 ай бұрын
Simmons has that hungover death face 😂😂😂
@burekevan
@burekevan 6 ай бұрын
bill only likes light beer ya know
@David-iv6je
@David-iv6je 6 ай бұрын
Not only is LeBron freakishly durable, he's had a phenomenal training ethic since he started in the league. Luka does not. No chance he makes it. Duncan was the best of his generation, not Kobe.
@williambourque926
@williambourque926 6 ай бұрын
Agreed. Plus the dude is a crybaby without any heart. Try watching a game with him and seeing him whine every time to the refs. Ultimate front-runner type of player.
@MindoftheNorthStar
@MindoftheNorthStar 6 ай бұрын
Duncan and Kobe were better than LeBron. Those guys never ran away from the challenge of winning when things got tough. I think it's because they didn't grow up fatherless so they learned to be competitors and not cowards
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 6 ай бұрын
@@williambourque926What does it mean if a player is a front runner?
@trippdavidson8174
@trippdavidson8174 6 ай бұрын
@@fortynights1513it tends to mean you only do well when things are going well for your team
@jgg6932
@jgg6932 6 ай бұрын
​@@MindoftheNorthStarKobe cried to get Shaq kicked off the team then threw a hissy fit that the team was bad(shocker) and tried to force his way to Chicago 😂 Duncan had rumors of going to Orlando not to mention why would you leave when you get drafted to a team with Duncan Robinson an all time great, an all time great coach, multiple other all star/hall of fame players throughout the rest of his career like Parker, ginoblii etc of course he didn't leave I'd love to see any of these guys (Kobe, MJ, Shaq, Duncan etc) go suffer in Cleveland for nearly a decade with the worst front office in the league and mo Williams and big Z as his number 2 & 3 🤣 Kobe, MJ, Barkley would be punching teammates within the year
@ianrobinson4200
@ianrobinson4200 6 ай бұрын
Probably not in our lifetimes, but it's not outside the realm of possibility that in 100 years time, there could be a guy in his mid 40s or over still playing at an all-star level assuming sports science continues to improve. People would have thought you were insane in 1960 if you'd said that in 64 years there would be a guy going 25-7-7 at age 39
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 6 ай бұрын
There are two things that LeBron may have going for him in this context compared to future NBA players: 1. He was a prep to pro player. Players can’t come out of high school straight to the NBA anymore, and if that rule was changed, players would get another young year to work with. And 2. Chances are future players would play fewer games than LeBron did up through 2017-18. Through 2017-18 (his age 33 season), LeBron James played at least 74 games in all but two seasons, and averaged 76 starts a season for his first 15 seasons. How often do we see players miss more than eight games in a season nowadays?
@MrOneanddone91
@MrOneanddone91 6 ай бұрын
15:40 "Quentin Richardson was a problem" 😂😂
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 6 ай бұрын
He took that guy sixth in the 2000 redraftables
@MrOneanddone91
@MrOneanddone91 6 ай бұрын
​@@fortynights1513 The 2000 NBA draft is probably the worst draft of all time lol.
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 6 ай бұрын
@@MrOneanddone91Absolutely, and the fact that he was justified taking Richardson there illustrates that. Solid career, but several spots down in most other drafts.
@onyx9857
@onyx9857 6 ай бұрын
Duncan was a Ray Allen missed 3 away from being 6-0 in the finals as the beat player on all 6 teams.
@ifejeeks
@ifejeeks 6 ай бұрын
He had already lost to detroit in 04 but Tim is a legendary player regardless
@onyx9857
@onyx9857 6 ай бұрын
@@ifejeeks the Spurs weren't in the finals in 04.
@ifejeeks
@ifejeeks 6 ай бұрын
You’re right! Haha Spurs beat them in 05 damn my memory is bad, I stand corrected!
@phillipschuman4307
@phillipschuman4307 6 ай бұрын
True, but also his scoring 0 points in the 4th quarter and OT (after 30 through 3 quarters), and his point blank miss on a little bunny layup in regulation were also factors. Besides, that loss fired up the team for the next title run. If they had won the first time, that would have been 5-0, but do they repeat? They NEVER repeated.
@vanslang5385
@vanslang5385 6 ай бұрын
To be accurate, in 2 out of 5 championship teams other guys were the Finals MVPS, which technically make them the best player on the team that year.
@empoweredwithiggy
@empoweredwithiggy 6 ай бұрын
I don’t think people realise how difficult it is to achieve what Lebron has done. It’s not about you scoring 30 ppg for 20 years to break 40K that’s hard. In fact that’s the easiest thing to do especially in the NBA today with how the game has changed. You have to have a crazy obsessive mindset and personality. You have to want to be your best bring your best from day 1 until you are 40 years old. The mental toughness you need to have the dedication you need to have the discipline the drive the focus you need to have to wake up every single day and give it your best is unprecedented. Now not only that you have to dedicate your life to eating healthy sleeping on time having good habits good recovery dedicate time and energy and money to all those factors to keep your body your physical state in that best way possible. So the mental and physical go hand in hand you cannot abandon any of it for 20 years every day you have to be dedicated no cheating no cutting corners no excuses no days off you have to bring your best every single day. The discipline you need to have the hard work you need to put it every single day is what makes this so difficult and almost impossible. Now for Lebron the whole world is watching everyone is in the trenches waiting for him to fail so they can crucify him. Everyone is crucifying his every move his every possession his every shot his every missed game his every loss it’s being micro examined by everyone. He has been out under a microscope for 20 years and now the technology age we live in with social media he is even now more than ever been constantly talked about every day. People wanna see him fail wanna see him not succeed wanna see him miss a shot miss playoffs not catch Jordan. Now imagine all that pressure from day 1 until now and still be able to out perform all the expectations and the pressure. Personally to me this is mind blowing that Lebron has still managed to be able to survive all this for this long someone needs to study his mind and his brain and his mental strength and learn from him because he is one of one. That’s why you will never see anyone like Lebron again with his mental toughness his work ethic and his discipline we don’t make them like him anymore. He is the last of his kind nobody is gonna ever do what he did in our life time. I am 39 and I know I will never see anyone like Lebron again nobody is gonna be able to survive mentally physical emotionally what he has for 20 years in our lifetime. They just don’t come like that anymore they don’t make them like that anymore with that sort of crazy
@janicelgo4522
@janicelgo4522 6 ай бұрын
Completely agree.
@micapalma9532
@micapalma9532 6 ай бұрын
if you are not winning, that is just stat padding....
@PlexFanatic
@PlexFanatic 6 ай бұрын
Factsss
@JeewanthaBandara
@JeewanthaBandara 6 ай бұрын
It’s good to see that there are prominent NBA media personalities who keep the torch alight for Tim Duncan. Thank you Bill and Ryen.
@cp3190
@cp3190 6 ай бұрын
its gotta be somebody durable who comes in and scores 32-34 ppg for the first 10 years for his career.
@anthonyrivera2306
@anthonyrivera2306 6 ай бұрын
Only us Spurs fans see Timmy's greatness, besides the ocassional props from other fans.
@venicemenace
@venicemenace 6 ай бұрын
anybody who puts Timmy outside the top 10 all time is an ignoramus
@anthonyrivera2306
@anthonyrivera2306 6 ай бұрын
@@venicemenace Definitely
@SomeChink
@SomeChink 6 ай бұрын
nah it’s more than Spurs fans people know how great he was, definitely top 10
@robesch88
@robesch88 6 ай бұрын
Timmy is above lebron in my list
@69gvfb
@69gvfb 6 ай бұрын
Here's some occasional proos to Timmy D! 😅
@ilovewithcaution
@ilovewithcaution 6 ай бұрын
I will gladly join the Tim Duncan club 🙋🏽‍♂️
@edgardoMurnia
@edgardoMurnia 6 ай бұрын
Really fun.The actual guy doesn't care at all, why would you?, lol
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 6 ай бұрын
Great career, and one of the best players ever. In particular to try to build a team around what he did.
@quiggs111
@quiggs111 6 ай бұрын
who cares.. hate lebron and how hes ruined the nba... at no point in career was he ever as good as peek larry
@hardwoodthought1213
@hardwoodthought1213 6 ай бұрын
lol, awful take. LBJ didn’t ruin anything
@nikosvault
@nikosvault 6 ай бұрын
@@hardwoodthought1213 Not everything. Just most of the 2010's.
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 6 ай бұрын
How did he specifically ruin it?
@gsjackson34
@gsjackson34 6 ай бұрын
Luka was asked about catching LeBron a couple months back. Said he doesn't intend to play long enough to do it. Even if he changes his mind, he probably likes his post-game brewskis a bit too much. LeBron spends literally a million dollars a year on body upkeep. No way Luka will match that durability.
@seitostockman
@seitostockman 6 ай бұрын
Lebum likes his wine and tequila too he just allegedly does a ton of PEDs to counter it
@chrisdellosa1139
@chrisdellosa1139 6 ай бұрын
Peds?
@ryanb9305
@ryanb9305 6 ай бұрын
LeBALCO James shows no signs of slowing down in year 21 😤😤😤💉💉💉
@douglasmurphy3266
@douglasmurphy3266 6 ай бұрын
When Luka starts to drop off when he's like 31 people are going to start making excuses like "bro those years in Euro count he's got the mileage of like a 35 or 36 year old player" The stupid thing going now is comparing other players to Lebron, he is not normal. It is not normal to play crazy in year 17, much less 21. It was crazy when Kobe did it. It should still be crazy that KD is doing it. KD and Steph playing like they are now should be much more celebrated, but Lebron just shatters all comparison.
@enterpassword3313
@enterpassword3313 6 ай бұрын
Lukas game doesnt rely on athleticism tho...
@randyandino1775
@randyandino1775 6 ай бұрын
It has taken an average of almost 30 years for this record to be broken. From Will to Kareem to Lebron, and Bill first question is if someone in the next decade will do it 😅. Not impressive enough for Bill. Maybe a really nice player will do it. Congrats Lebron, what a run of excellence
@chestermallory395
@chestermallory395 6 ай бұрын
These projections assume no reduction in games during the regular season in the future.
@bobbyd1632
@bobbyd1632 6 ай бұрын
Records unlikely to be broken. Total points, total assists, 10 scoring titles, 6 fmvp and total tov
@enterpassword3313
@enterpassword3313 6 ай бұрын
Shaq with Most backboards broken
@12gark
@12gark 5 ай бұрын
Total rebounds is even more ridiculous than Stockton and LeBron's record to be honest. Wemby could play 20 seasons, average 70 games a season and 16 rebounds a game and still be few hundreds behind. Nobody is ever doing that.
@bobbyd1632
@bobbyd1632 5 ай бұрын
@@12gark yeah wilt's total number itself is insane, but rebounds in general in the 60's were crazy with players finishing 3rd-4th in league rpg for the season while averaging like 21rpg
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 5 ай бұрын
@@bobbyd1632How about Stockton’s steals record?
@bobbyd1632
@bobbyd1632 5 ай бұрын
@@fortynights1513 yeah man Stockton’s ast and stl totals are impressive
@iamthegamepro
@iamthegamepro 6 ай бұрын
Lebron rarely go’s flat out which is why he lasted so long. Guys like Derick rose use to go 110% percent and then they would get hurt.
@WorldwideWyatt
@WorldwideWyatt 6 ай бұрын
Lebron has scored double digit points in 1206 consecutive games… Shaq played 1207 games total in his career.
@allank8497
@allank8497 6 ай бұрын
less than two years ago Bill was saying that 2022 Giannis was maybe the best player he's ever seen in person since 2000. He said he was right up there with 2013 Lebron, but since then Bill has decided that him being a celtics disallows him from giving Giannis any respect, so now he pretends he never said that
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 6 ай бұрын
Not that you can’t argue Jokic is better than Giannis nowadays, but Bill may be saying that about Jokic to prop up him and make it look more impressive when the Celtics lose the finals to Denver.
@allank8497
@allank8497 6 ай бұрын
@@fortynights1513 agree completely. That’s probably it.
@sawyerhaming951
@sawyerhaming951 6 ай бұрын
Idk I used to think the same thing but its been 2 years and Giannis still can’t shoot and only has a few real moves. The honeymoon phase on Giannis has passed, he’s one of the best players in the league but a top 3 player of all time I think not
@allank8497
@allank8497 6 ай бұрын
@@sawyerhaming951 no one has ever said he’s a t3 player of all time. He’s not particularly close to but neither is jokic
@RobustMustache
@RobustMustache 6 ай бұрын
Eliminate the corner three and defensive 3 seconds. The defense would be better and more guys attacking the hoop from the corner. If the corner is no longer worth 3pts, guys aren't going to shoot deep mid-range 2s. They are going to drive to the hoop. And since you made 3 seconds legal, you are either going to see a very nice meeting at the rim for a monster block or dunk. It would make the NBA really fun to watch.
@ashishshresthaa
@ashishshresthaa 6 ай бұрын
If u took away the corner people would just shoot 10* more stepback 3s and free-throws lol
@RobustMustache
@RobustMustache 6 ай бұрын
Not everyone can make a step back 3 consistently. There are literally guys making a career out of standing in the corner. Its so boring watching so many 3s and a game rigged against the defense. @@ashishshresthaa
@lenzoltan
@lenzoltan 6 ай бұрын
The NBA will never make a change that's dramatically different to FIBA rules. The 3 point line will remain as it is.
@ashishshresthaa
@ashishshresthaa 6 ай бұрын
​@@RobustMustache A lot of players can make them though, so if u takeaway the corner then the corner guys will sell out to block the lanes so the best shot would be a stepback 3. The stats will probably also be like "well if u shoot .35 from 3s it's better than .50 from 2" with a crowded rim the twos will be tougher, they'll probably take even more threes and even uglier threes.
@Veggamattic
@Veggamattic 6 ай бұрын
Lebron played most of his career in a much slower placed NBA. If his entire career was happening now with todays rules and refs, he would be closer too if not at 50000 by now. Just go look at how few PPG was happening in the early 2000's. Not even close to 2024 numbers.
@ham-on-the-bone
@ham-on-the-bone 6 ай бұрын
Why are you not talking about Garnetts doping allegations of lebron ? Any other allegation from a top 75 hall of famer would be credible and get your commentary.
@hardwoodthought1213
@hardwoodthought1213 6 ай бұрын
Because it wasn’t a doping allegation? LBJ haters are insane
@ham-on-the-bone
@ham-on-the-bone 6 ай бұрын
@@hardwoodthought1213 choosing ignorance... Our society is doomed.
@hardwoodthought1213
@hardwoodthought1213 6 ай бұрын
@@ham-on-the-bone Oh for sure. When we have dudes stretching a quote about how LBJ is on a different type of level through metaphorical use of ‘juice’ to claims that KG was accusing LBJ of being on steroids for sure is what’s wrong with society nowadays. Zero objectivity or grounding in reality
@ham-on-the-bone
@ham-on-the-bone 6 ай бұрын
@@hardwoodthought1213 Just keep making every idea or thought you don't agree with fit into the narrative that makes you feel good about the world.
@hardwoodthought1213
@hardwoodthought1213 6 ай бұрын
@@ham-on-the-bone Literally describing the exact thing you’ve done. I’m so glad I’m not American, you and your kind are the most deluded people ever (killer fast food tho, innovated the German hamburger and French fries)
@TheDustin151
@TheDustin151 6 ай бұрын
I don’t think Luka wants to play till he’s 40. He has made comments about it. He would probably retire around 38. Also Lebron was younger when he came into the league.
@Veggamattic
@Veggamattic 6 ай бұрын
Luka is not the athletic freak Lebron is and will likely be a shell of his current self by the time he is 38.
@TheDustin151
@TheDustin151 6 ай бұрын
@@Veggamattic well Luka is already slow, he isn’t getting any slower. Not being athletic is a good thing when you are trying to play a long time.
@liferealgood
@liferealgood 6 ай бұрын
Will there a bad contract draft like last year?
@nickbecksayer
@nickbecksayer 6 ай бұрын
Bill on the Lakers is always hilarious: @ Janie paying Kobe to prove the Lakers take care of their stars - Bill, confidently: 'didn't help them'. (Ignoring literally the guy this segment is about)
@nabetse1999
@nabetse1999 6 ай бұрын
Bill is constantly in denial about the Lakers success. In the mid-2010s the Celtics had the brightest future of any NBA team while the Lakers were stuck in limbo in the post-Kobe era. A decade later guess which team won a title first…
@ElBrillante4
@ElBrillante4 6 ай бұрын
Not just that. He pulled the whole Kobe playing 40+ minutes stat out of context! He played those minutes to take them to the playoffs!
@12gark
@12gark 5 ай бұрын
​​@@ElBrillante4also, LeBron played way more career minutes than Kobe, especially if you add the playoff minutes. Someone seems to forget that LeBron was 15 season into his career when he played 82 games and then went on playing 42 minutes a game for 22 playoff games, including 2 game 7s and 2 buzzer beaters. LeBron has a shot to set the all time record for minutes as well, he's second to only Kareem and only about 1000 minutes short. The longevity and durability are out of this world. And nobody else is beating that either. 57K minutes is beyond ridiculous, especially if you factor in 11k and change playoff minutes, which is 3k more than anyone else ever.
@LocoSunny
@LocoSunny 6 ай бұрын
Wemby if he can average 40 a night in his 3rd season
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 6 ай бұрын
Wemby if he stays healthy and keeps blocking could challenge the all time block leaders.
@jamesrobitaille1082
@jamesrobitaille1082 6 ай бұрын
This segment totally redeeed itself when Ryan threw out how disrespected Timmy D has become .
@drewbreezy5854
@drewbreezy5854 6 ай бұрын
You're right, future NBA talent won't be chasing MJ...they will be chasing LeBron. That's how it works right?
@AJFig-ut9hp
@AJFig-ut9hp Ай бұрын
hell no. LeBron never caught up to Jordan; he tried his best but he failed. His steroid longevity isn't enough to put him past Jordan he needed 6 rings
@raymelendez5135
@raymelendez5135 6 ай бұрын
Who tf cares? So Karl Malone is the 3rd best player ever? Is Dirk the 6th best ever? Is Melo the 12th best ever? Who cares about 40K!?!? Geez us kriste
@hardwoodthought1213
@hardwoodthought1213 6 ай бұрын
Clearly missing the point. No one says he’s the best because he’s scored the most, they use it as part of a portfolio of evidence, same for any player when justifying their greatness
@jonji-kz2nz
@jonji-kz2nz 6 ай бұрын
Man’s missing the point smh
@edgardoMurnia
@edgardoMurnia 6 ай бұрын
Lol. Are you crying or something? Nobody said ever LeBron is great because of 40.000
@jdankerdake
@jdankerdake 6 ай бұрын
Bill is 54. Ryen is 48. The scoring record doesn’t necessarily need to be broken by a player currently in the NBA to occur in their lifetimes. All the sports talk people asking this question really mean, “Will LeBron’s scoring record be broken by a player currently playing in the NBA.”
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 6 ай бұрын
The answer to that question at the end is arguably no
@bobkeps2095
@bobkeps2095 6 ай бұрын
Bron scores 40k= "no big deal" Mj scores 30k= stop the game and lets have a ceremony
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 6 ай бұрын
They stopped the game when LeBron passed Kareem I believe.
@bobkeps2095
@bobkeps2095 6 ай бұрын
@fortynights1513 u mean when bron actually broke a 40yr old record no one thought would ever be broken. Lol are you aware of what a 'false equivalence' is. Mj gets ceremony and praise for not breaking a record at 30k. Bron gets 40k and it will never happen again, and people say it's not a big deal.
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 2 ай бұрын
@@bobkeps2095Understood
@MakingMovesMajor
@MakingMovesMajor 6 ай бұрын
The person who will break Lebron's records is not in the NBA yet.
@micapalma9532
@micapalma9532 6 ай бұрын
google his --> 10 NBA Players With The Most Trophies And Awards Of All Time. lebron could play for another 21 yrs, scores 50k points, yet he is not touching the solid NBA accolades of the number behind his jersey. keep this in mind people - longevity is not and can never be the measure of true greatness.... stats/records is no better than NBA Accolades.... besides, winning is everything. if you are not winning chips, thats what you call just stat padding
@razkable
@razkable 5 ай бұрын
Lebron scoring 40000 is unreachable...he will get 50000 if we combine playoff and regular season...that's untouchable....he deserves props for that cause he isn't a shot chucker....no one will catch his 9000 playoff points
@Redclxxd
@Redclxxd 6 ай бұрын
Bill is terrible, lebron is definitely worth 60m the lakers were just in the WCF, bill seriously just compared lebron to Paul pierce and kg on the nets? That’s horrible lebron is still a top 10 player. Plus the lakers are not a 500 team, they are 5 games over 500, the west is just stacked but come playoffs nobody wants to face lebron/ad. Bills Boston bias is ridiculous.
@gandydancer9710
@gandydancer9710 4 ай бұрын
Will anyone else score 40,000 points? Sure, why not? If you don't care that the product is trash there's no reason most seasons can't have multiple players who score in the vicinity of 4000 points. Chamberlain did that, and that was before you could interrupt your carrying the ball to stop dribbling at all and take three steps around would-be defenders while not exposing the ball by dribbling and, if they get in the way anyway, "create separation" with a shoulder or forearm to their chest and get rewarded with free throws for doing so. It needn't take as many healthy seasons as LeBron took to do it, just corrupt basketball to get the result the pencil-neck geek wants.
@ou8428
@ou8428 6 ай бұрын
Wait so it's okay for people to hate on White Chocolate cuz he wasn't a shooter though a great passer, but it's perfectly acceptable to slobber all over drama queen, high usage, low efficiency losers like Allen Iverson??? I'm confused.
@nabetse1999
@nabetse1999 6 ай бұрын
Bill seriously doesn’t have any credibility. Jokic is not better than LeBron in 2018.
@billyxgallagher
@billyxgallagher 6 ай бұрын
Different types of game. Different bags n play styles. Ya bein clownish
@mattb782
@mattb782 6 ай бұрын
No chance for Luka. Unless he starts a Lebron type fitness and PED regiment. Even then, his genetics and phenotype don't scream longevity. He has physio tape on almost every inch of his body NOW.
@anthonymannone441
@anthonymannone441 6 ай бұрын
Sure, if Luka can stay healthy on that chubby boy frame for 20 plus years. Kareem and LeBron have discipline in common. Luka is a European frat boy
@gaborkiss650
@gaborkiss650 6 ай бұрын
Wtf are you talking about? Tell me how the Lakers will be contenders if they let LeBron walk this summer! HOW? You’re stating like it’s a realistic choice.
@gpcovenant
@gpcovenant 6 ай бұрын
A but hyperbolic but I think the only reason Lebron is not the unanimous GOAT is because he was not a very good GM.
@kash538
@kash538 6 ай бұрын
Lakers take care of their superstars and that's why they have Lebron. You give Lebron the big deal because we brought you back to relevancy and got you a title. Who else can sign any superstar, the Celtics? They've burnt that bridge with how they treat their players.
@Joe-c3w5u
@Joe-c3w5u 6 ай бұрын
Luka need to switch to juice if he want a chance😂
@superpoochable
@superpoochable 6 ай бұрын
Auld late stage capitalist Bill, why sacrifice potentially winning with more cap space when you can earn more millions, boring 😂
@drjcup3228
@drjcup3228 6 ай бұрын
I doubt Luka has Lebron’s durability nor will he have deep playoff success (thus less games) when all is said and done.
@willyherrmann991
@willyherrmann991 6 ай бұрын
Embarrassing how little credit y’all gave this
@ryanmontague3377
@ryanmontague3377 6 ай бұрын
Short Answer..... Nope Long Answer...... Never will be broken in our lifetime What LeBron is doing is more than anything we have been able to comprehended a basketball player can accomplish. He was dubbed the Chosen one and exceeded expectations. This is why the GOAT debate is so cliche and just opinions at the end of the day. Jordan may have been the "better player" when he played but Lebron will go down as the "greatest career" in NBA history that I don't think any one can ever top. It's really unbelievable his stats
@THE_BEAR_JEW
@THE_BEAR_JEW 6 ай бұрын
Mmmm no. Kareem still has the greatest career. Kareem's got 10 Finals appearances, 6 championships, 2nd all time in points (less games played than LeBron), and he's got the most MVPs ever with 6. MJ still has a better career than LeBron too. 6/6 in the Finals, never choked in the Finals, DPOY, 5 MVPs, and his prime was in one of the slowest-paced eras. On top of that, MJ's story is just the best. He went to a franchise that never won a thing. The team got better and better with him there, they beat their nemesis, and then had a decade-long dynasty. There's only been what? 4 teams that won 3 straight? And MJ has been on 2 of them. The next best story is probably Steph. He had ankle issues. Nobody really thought he'd be what he became. Jump shooting teams were thought to be fun but not championship-caliber. Then here comes Steph. Not to mention the fact that Steph has as many rings as Bron, on LeBron's watch. And sure, Steph had a superteam, but that's the last excuse I wanna hear from LeBron. LeBron formed 3 superteams (the one in LA failed with Westbrook but it was an attempt nonetheless).
@jamaicanboy342
@jamaicanboy342 6 ай бұрын
How is scoring easy media, we have 4 guys one injured scoring more than normal. There's always a few guys who does this. If you listen to the media
@yuribraga2575
@yuribraga2575 6 ай бұрын
Tim Duncan was a problem tbh
@_mister100_
@_mister100_ 6 ай бұрын
If anyone does pass lebron in the future people won’t care because scoring is getting easier now it’s about outscoring teams vs defending the team lebron played 3 eras so his still counts but this 2020 era it’s just scoringgg
@gregs2965
@gregs2965 6 ай бұрын
PEDs are a hellova drug😂
@grahambecker
@grahambecker 6 ай бұрын
Bill so white he don’t know he likes white ballers. Please stop the Bron hate Bill. You can’t just say he’s the second best player ever then trash him under that claim.
@keithkool8308
@keithkool8308 6 ай бұрын
Who cares?? Winning is more important than stats. Its great but nobody talked about it so much when Kareem and malone was on top!!
@georgebad4229
@georgebad4229 6 ай бұрын
4:30 missed opportunity for a Hendrix reference
@_mister100_
@_mister100_ 6 ай бұрын
If lebron would’ve passed the ball 50% of his assists he’d have an extra 10k pts
@_mister100_
@_mister100_ 6 ай бұрын
If lebron was a 90% free throw shooter it’d be an even higher record we’d be around 42k
@grahambecker
@grahambecker 6 ай бұрын
You’ve said more about Joker, Bird, Luka this season that have veered said bout bron … ever
@dwy3r
@dwy3r 6 ай бұрын
if wemby can mirror kareems health/longevity. gets a head start with not going to college
@ladhurothalwedel9465
@ladhurothalwedel9465 6 ай бұрын
I think that lebron james will slow down how much more of that balco juice his body can take
@mr.d1850
@mr.d1850 6 ай бұрын
scoring is easier but can they sustain it ? or are they durable enough and smart like LBJ ? like can they take care of the body like him ?
@detroittrell1825
@detroittrell1825 6 ай бұрын
Luka want come close .Luka want even pass Kobe and Jordan
@thasandmanmorrison8469
@thasandmanmorrison8469 6 ай бұрын
he is still not the highest scoring basketball player in the world. he still has another 9k to score for that title.
@joeg2258
@joeg2258 6 ай бұрын
27 points a game average for 20 years. Not even taking into account injuries and illness----crazy
@briansager3744
@briansager3744 6 ай бұрын
Love how upset Bill gets that this dumb Pats doc isn't the suckfest he wants it to be.
@cowboyrev5326
@cowboyrev5326 6 ай бұрын
No one’s gonna catch it because they’re not juicing that LeBron is
@cousinchris5851
@cousinchris5851 6 ай бұрын
Luka?? This is just a hot take. Not even Luka would say Luka
@davidrace1050
@davidrace1050 6 ай бұрын
Luca will not be able to stay in shape. Won't happen William.
@mattwhitely1067
@mattwhitely1067 6 ай бұрын
If lebron takes less there is still no cap space educate yourself
@TomDelayBeats
@TomDelayBeats 6 ай бұрын
LeBALCO
@Youralwayswhining4367
@Youralwayswhining4367 6 ай бұрын
You don't think players with weak ankles would take hgh or other designer drugs.
@chedbeckford8067
@chedbeckford8067 6 ай бұрын
Luka won't play long enough to get that to 40,000
@YouCallThataKnife253
@YouCallThataKnife253 6 ай бұрын
Bron has the 3rd highest jersey sales and still puts butts in seats. They'll pay him. Especially true since they'll want him on the team during his retirement season
@Redclxxd
@Redclxxd 6 ай бұрын
He’s also still a top 10 player, the production is still there. Bill and Ryan acting like he’s giving you 12ppg when it’s still 25/7/8 on 41% 3pt and 50% FG
@YouCallThataKnife253
@YouCallThataKnife253 6 ай бұрын
@@Redclxxd 💯
@raineg0689
@raineg0689 6 ай бұрын
Of course, just use PEDs for 20 seasons!
@reubengray6026
@reubengray6026 6 ай бұрын
I think Lebron will sign a 1 and 1.
@MG-yj6lo
@MG-yj6lo 6 ай бұрын
Thats Brons title- longevity and consistency. Luka is a offensive juggernaut but he wont play that long. I see Luka retiring around 36.
@AJFig-ut9hp
@AJFig-ut9hp Ай бұрын
much better version of Karl Malone but still not Jordan
@Iceman-xe7jo
@Iceman-xe7jo 6 ай бұрын
Tough because Lebron started at 18. Players don’t start until atleast 19-20 yrs old. I don’t think any record is unbreakable but this will stand for generations. The way guys are scoring today who knows.
@JonSmith-hk1bq
@JonSmith-hk1bq 6 ай бұрын
I don't it's make or break as far as it goes.
@Peekul1
@Peekul1 6 ай бұрын
Luka is going to be out of the league at age 33.
@3rdFloor
@3rdFloor 6 ай бұрын
Simmons way of doing the match is hysterical. Here's a better way for you Bill. LeBron is the youngest ever to reach ... 1K 2K 3K 4K 5K 6K 7K 8K 9K 10K 11K 12K 13K 14K 15K 16K 17K 18K 19K 20K 21K 22K 23K 24K 25K 26K 27K 28K 29K 30K 31K 32K 33K 34K 35K 36K 37K 38K 39K 40K Now he's breaking the "oldest ever" records. Bill is a weirdo with how he does math
@RamonAdorno-ds1wu
@RamonAdorno-ds1wu 6 ай бұрын
BALCO EQUALS LONGEVITY
@kkardi
@kkardi 6 ай бұрын
Luka or Wemby will hit it
@seitostockman
@seitostockman 6 ай бұрын
"Care about his body" = lots of PEDs
@Bobbleheads56
@Bobbleheads56 6 ай бұрын
Its hilarious how these media guys aren’t allowed to admit that
@sammyttheg412
@sammyttheg412 6 ай бұрын
All these guys have access to the same peds. It's like when Lance got busted they stripped him of everything then it came out that like the next 15 place finishes were also doping
@Bobbleheads56
@Bobbleheads56 6 ай бұрын
@@sammyttheg412 its almost like this is a rigged, WWE-esque league….
@Emily1963eh
@Emily1963eh 6 ай бұрын
This just gets glossed over "Unprecedented", yeah right. The Lakers need to dump his ass
@PaddyBL
@PaddyBL 6 ай бұрын
King of traveling
@edgardoMurnia
@edgardoMurnia 6 ай бұрын
And Peds, and Losing Finals, right?
@giocallejas21
@giocallejas21 6 ай бұрын
Kd will break it easy
@SomeChink
@SomeChink 6 ай бұрын
Definitely ruling out Luka He’s not lasting that long
@edgardoMurnia
@edgardoMurnia 6 ай бұрын
He started playing pro at 13. No way he holds up, even if European basketball is not as ridiculously tough on the body, with less games.
@ManFinest
@ManFinest 6 ай бұрын
Luka not even close.
@lyndonfair9850
@lyndonfair9850 6 ай бұрын
Mf said Luka 😂😂
@ross7423
@ross7423 6 ай бұрын
Luka would have to average 30ppg+ for 17 seasons and play 70 games a season to get to LeBron now, when LeBron will most likely get to 44k points when its all said and done. Luka on JJ Reddicks podcast said he's not playing that long.
@andrewc9529
@andrewc9529 5 ай бұрын
Why are they talking about free throw numbers being the issue? Free throw attempts per game are down by 4 from 20 years ago. The skill of offensive players and offensive sets continue to outpace defensive play. How can the NBA legislate against players shooting a higher percentage from 2 and 3. Simple math, teams play at faster pace and shoot higher percentages than 20 years ago.
@johnjperricone7856
@johnjperricone7856 6 ай бұрын
Luka is already a whole season behind, and LeBron played 90-plus games a season in his first 15 years. LeBron was dedicated to his physical well-being in a way that Luka simply has had no interest in. No. Sorry. No current player is even in the conversation.
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