Billy Corgan - Mina Loy (on The Late Show with David Letterman)

[@austinmark1987]

This was such an underrated period of Corgan’s writing and career. Very well crafted songs and “vibe”.

[@jeffreymontoya9933]

Facts

[@StringSun]

You right

[@birdhousegypsy3655]

ikr!!!

[@mattzugenbuehler4512]

1000%. Still the only person I know IRL who loved this album and era. So bizarre that the hardcore Pumpkin fans didn’t like it.

[@tritonecrisantemo649]

Was gonna write exactly that!

[@antoniaford5478]

The songs, the presentation, the vibes…everything about the TFE era was so so good

[@MorrisB3]

People just love to hate.all on Billy's nuts. lol The 90's are over. Future Embrace and Zeitgeist are great albums. Plain and simple. :)

[@kidamnesiac6823]

@@JM-gc8fn rigged election

[@tendraftsdeep]

Man, here we are. 🎃

[@claudiomargheri2087]

Yea here we are indeed ...it's that time of the year 😅 :(-:

[@kdbrown777]

Good lord that guitar tone is so good...

[@erakattack]

noisy, but not overbearing. so good

[@joshuaaurien3514]

Really like this album, I remember jamming it that summer. This song is great. Also cool that SP now includes songs from this record in their sets.

[@avedic]

It really is a great album. I love how he constantly tries new sounds. This album is very much NOT overthought imo....it's kinda basic...very simple electronic drums....with washed out shoe-gaze/dream-pop guitars. It's kinda cool. Some songs are duds....but several are truly beautiful.

[@DRUMNBASSX2019]

@@avedic this song alone, the unique sound is breathtaking, its got that 80s New Wave beat, but the blend of distorted pads and the guitar is absolutely gorgeous! I still play this!

[@MichaelDuran]

Man, that's a fantastic performance. I didn't see it back then.

[@thenewholistic]

The burden of being ahead of your time... Now people will go back and listen to TFE and be blown away, when it got tepid reactions when it was released and Billy was playing small clubs with no pub/no airplay. Sorta like the end of the Oceania era into the Monuments tour, no one really cared and he still soldiered on with hired hands and no budget.

[@firebirdgao]

I love the future embrace album

[@xx_naasson_xx]

Yes such an amazing album!

[@matthewbritt8498]

I fucking love this song

[@user-uv7rb8sz5e]

Same. Love Billy. This entire album. &prettymuch everything he's written musically, &literature/writing by him, as well. Lol, yeah, imma huge-fan of his, to say the least, lol

[@thesilvershining]

@@user-uv7rb8sz5e Same, Billy is such a genius!!

[@michaeldane75]

Such a great song, one of my favorite Corgan/Pumpkins new wave-y jams. Fits REALLY great paired with that new SP jam "Cyr"....also cool seeing Brain Leisengang from Filter playing on keyboards here

[@werideatdusk]

honestly Mina Loy sounds more like SP to me than about half of the Cyr album

[@nikimod1]

Together with Matt Walker that's half of the original Filter lineup.

[@gloomyharlow]

such an underrated song...

[@AF-dn2bz]

Still true

[@Karl_90]

Billy looks so nice here

[@Karl_90]

Thats what i want look like

[@Em-md3re]

He sounds so good live

[@majicweather4890]

I loved this album. I was waiting for the next one to follow up with this style and sound.

[@Nothing-qq4hd]

I bought this album at the lakewood warehouse music in California in 2005 it hits hard in a car with good sound...I played it over and over start to finish a fantastic vision of where we are now.

[@SupermanNew52]

I bought this CD back when it came out and blasted the hell out of it in my car too. Great production on this.

[@AF-dn2bz]

What do you think this song means? I can't quite figure it out but it sounds really good.

[@svtman93]

I actually like this more then the album version

[@TonyBologna999]

It's like the same, dude

[@cbass4019]

I remember this like is was yesterday.

[@jeffreyvonstetten5852]

This song is so good

[@Kaz377]

I remember in a small add on the Village Voice “ future embrace” by Billy Corgan Playing at knitting factory NYC. Amazing album in studio but live was in another level. As other comments and I include myself. It really is a hidden gem 💎

[@celticlocs9761]

thank you so much for the high quality upload of this tune. It means a lot to a pumpkins fan like me. Thankyou

[@adrianvasquez254]

Coming off the Zwan breakdown, this was a very big divergence. I listen to this album a bunch for over a year. Too bad people don’t talk about it.

[@Crimsonphilosophy]

I hope he does a follow up electronic album.

[@friendship6668]

Crimsonphilosophy Have you heard of his albums, Aegea or Siddhartha?

[@soulkiss1001]

ar those two on amazon and or ebay,is siddharta and aegea electronic albums and what years were they released

[@Reprodestruxion]

Wish granted

[@p0479]

CYR

[@Crimsonphilosophy]

@@p0479 its meh.

[@p0479]

Great album.

[@ObscuredJellybelly]

The siren calls outside They want to kill us all Innocents, wounded souls Full of rage Nowhere to go Consequences be they may I resolve to never change I so vow to never yield Can I give my old heart to you? 'cause when this feeling starts That's when I blow it all away "Here, you're born" they'll say "To die afraid, to lie awake" It's plain the wars have won The days of judgement rise For innocents, wounded souls How could they know? They're burning cold Paranoias be they may

[@corganite1982]

Corgan=Greatest Rock Star of all time, I would die 4 u Billy Boy

[@claudiomargheri2087]

That droning ooozing reverberating line sounds catherine wheel like Yet again at the same time it all feels so paradoxical natural not that old stinky at all quite the contrary so very much 00s 00s 00s all over the place, the sound how it all comes together It's so fucking powerful i love everything about it People mentioning billy looking good of course he does he really does Oh and conan slip right at the start 😅 priceless Brain fart

[@banyarling]

This performance is so tight, I thought at first Billy was lip syncing, but no .. thanks for the upload1

[@aphextwin2000]

very very. I remember I bought cd soon after release and that electronic-confused feeling also touched me. Its one of best albums of zero years..

[@oscarlopez3062]

Rock gourmet para oìdos abiertos al cambio y la evoluciòn. Genio a veces incomprendido pero sin duda uno de los grandes de la historia del rock.

[@mikeisagodd2121]

I love Linda Strawberry ❤❤❤❤❤

[@LadyVendic]

Best song on the recorde.

[@darrenclark9776]

The camera eye is my jam. 😉

[@notsure1135]

Best song of the album.

[@tomwallace75]

I feel like it's either this or Now (and Then). Both awesome songs.

[@inplurals]

It's Linda Strawberry.

[@C1schecter101]

The greatest !!!

[@garrethboland]

I saw this tour in Chicago at the Vic Theater. Awesome gig.

[@theworldneedswinners91]

Chills

[@jaimeflor4181]

I enjoyed the album this song was on and eventually saw Corgan perform it live. I’m not a big fan of his more recent solo albums, but I like what he was doing that year.

[@rodneymiller9439]

I need those pixel screens! lol!

[@mikenaughton]

Love this album and love that Linda Strawberry is in the band 🍓❤️

[@cass2303]

this fucking great!

[@Elenore0324]

hellz yeah

[@Univox68]

wow that was very cool.

[@califcamper]

I love it

[@OnkelKrede]

Best version of a great track imho.

[@rodrigomiranda3486]

Can i give my old heart to you ?....

[@mikerusso703]

Linda Strawberry is beautiful

[@fjgarrid]

Why isn’t this album in Apple Music?

[@austinmark1987]

Felipe Garrido Yes, I am wondering the same thing.

[@LAkadian]

Because Apple sucks.

[@DRUMNBASSX2019]

No respect for a genius like Corgan

[@erakattack]

lol chill, it's probably a rights issue. it's not on Spotify either

[@AF-dn2bz]

The album did incredibly poor. He decided to distance himself from it. Which to me is sad because I love it.

[@nicholsjoshua15]

@FIREAWARE I was surprised to find out how many people did get that. It has the mix of electric, and guitars, and the same confused feel that was so present om Machina.

[@miguelcortes7166]

Hi, David! I’m grandpa. 👋👴

[@MarkMirremont]

The cover of the BeeGees "you don't know what It's like" featuring #robertsmith was the best song from this release.

[@mikeanthony589]

when the 2000s start to look like the 90s because its almost the 2020s

[@AndreaCimino01]

I definitely would say so

[@annamaj2943]

Io adoro The Future Embrace

[@firebirdgao]

Putain j’adore les looks

[@rodrock85]

The backing vocal is so pretty and talent ! Anyone knows her name ?

[@brandedhousecat]

the future embrace?

[@Reprodestruxion]

Te amo Linda Frutilla/Fresa

[@Sc9cvsd]

Creepy to think billy is about my age now when he performed this

[@jacklegg21]

Takrezz: I believe it's a Fernandez Sustainer. He was using those on Machina I and II.

[@PabloBalmelli]

actually it's a Reverend Jetstream.

[@Podperson]

It's actually a Reverend Slingshot.

[@nicholsjoshua15]

Machina3/ The Future Embrace is what this whole album should be called it sounds a lot like a Machina style album. If you listen to the whole album you'll see that it's a continuation of Glass And The Machines Of God story.

[@АлексВолошин-е7п]

What kind of Machina 3 ? only listened 1 and 2 , but in general they are fucking for many years really cool music can be made really by units, such as, for example Depeshe mode and Garbage

[@ObscuredJellybelly]

I resolve to never change / Can I give my old heart to you? / 'cause when this feeling starts / That's when I rip it all apart / Alright! / The end's in sight / We're born to die / One thousand times / I'm just one wish away / I'm just one wish away from you kid x2 / I'm not so innocent / I'm not so innocent now kid / Can I give my old heart to you? / My old heart...

[@JLDead]

There are people who get incredible sounds out of the right amp setup. This sound could be easily replicated by pushing an old Roland delay or chorus head to its limits through the right cab. He also doesn't really change his effects settings; pedals could just be kept off screen to present a cleaner look for TV.

[@Elenore0324]

@aliencloak sp greatest song tournament brackets guy?

[@Nothing51337]

I feel tfe was machina 3

[@unity.life.mystery.school]

Who is the backup singer in this performance? Looks like Linda Strawberry. Is that really her?

[@romelovesdan]

Yes, you are correct!

[@austinmark1987]

Linda is a babe.

[@DIGITALDOGMUCK]

Oh sorry, just seen it lol!!

[@yurakhunt5586]

I like that but is the bass line a dubb or keyboards?

[@Takrezz]

can anyone tell me what kind guitar is that?

[@Podperson]

Reverend Slingshot

[@DIGITALDOGMUCK]

Love this song, u know the name of the album??

[@marcvanden5795]

DIGITALDOGMUCK future embrace

[@iditarod4081]

Where does the bass come from the synth or pre-recorded track

[@Reprodestruxion]

Bon Harris

[@francescamoscetta]

Good old times when he was Billy Corgan and not “WPC”... miss this genuineness

[@andrewface]

using your legal name isn't genuine? LOL

[@francescamoscetta]

andrewface he could’ve used it since the beginning

[@andrewface]

@@francescamoscetta the beginning of what? His life? William = Will = Bill = Billy

[@francescamoscetta]

andrewface look I’m not the one who gets all pissed if people keeps using Billy instead of WPC 🤣 it shouldn’t matter of it’s the same, right?

[@standinsilence]

He can call himself whatever or even change his name into a symbol if he wants. It's all good to me.

[@AF-dn2bz]

what is this song about?

[@caebilix]

At least in part - September 11th, 2001.

[@adamcarlone]

Drummers look weird when they're playing standing up.

[@thankyou2532]

please log on to equip.org

[@giova90metal]

better than the news pumpkins's songs

[@ShaqPlaque]

Well, one year later, Cyr is a dead ringer for this. I think that's a good thing

[@daveshteven]

Can I give my old house to you

[@spaceorbison]

fuck no it smells like balls

[@guitaristssuck8979]

Please do!

[@AF-dn2bz]

OK please take it back now

[@mralexandernino]

Will someone please explain David's "Will someone please answer the phone" joke to me?

[@Reprodestruxion]

It's not like Adrian Belew is playing behind a curtain and Billy is just mimicking

[@felipeandre_]

René Moncayo LOL

[@royalmajestyyelenayemchuk959]

YOUR ROCKSTAR FATHER LYNYRD SKYNYRD FREE BIRD IS THE GREATEST GUITARIST THAT'S EVER LIVED! THERE WENT JIMMY PAGE JIMI HENDRIX EDDIE VAN HALEN! NOBODY SHREDS A GUITAR LIKE YOUR ROCKSTAR FATHER#

[@amunman]

телку закрывает

[@QuarantineThePast]

I suppose so

[@dwringer]

There are a lot more ways of producing sound than pedals. Maybe not 50 years ago, but now, yes. He's clearly playing, let's insult music where insult is due, not actual musicians.

[@edactori]

the girl behind him is annoying for some reason.

[@GridIndustries]

Yea, no. She's awesome and incredibly talented.

[@erakattack]

your mom's annoying

[@johnleclair7311]

only vocals are live

[@johnmordecai2776]

The guitar is definitely live, vocals, at least one synth part is being played, and I think the drums are actually being played on the electronic pads.

[@QuarantineThePast]

Find it a bit hard to believe he has his guitar sound with no pedals in front of him. Good song but as the dude below said, not entirely honest.

[@PantheonLincoln]

Maybe he opted to have someone else offstage operate his effects during this time. He's not the only one to do this, I've seen at least one who did it that way. With the stuff going on with TheFutureEmbrace, maybe he just felt he could do the material live better if he could just concentrate on playing the guitar and singing without having to tap dance on a load of pedals.

[@janmillsgibson3225]

QuarantineThePast One song on a TV show. He'd just have one part of his otherwise gargantuan rig sitting out back. Mina Loy only needed one guitar track, as did a lot of other songs on the record. Corgan dialled in a solitary signal path and used it as a paintbrush for the canvas so to speak.

[@johnmordecai2776]

Yeah, to piggy-back, his effects were controlled off-stage. The guitar sounds on this album/tour were mostly the same from song-to-song also. He's said so in interviews. He was in a big "break from the past" frame of mind at the time.

[@austinmark1987]

John Mordecai this is exactly how it’s done. Billy’s guitar tech is managing the tones from song to song on this tour from off stage, on a macro level. Billy still had some control on a micro level of his tone. This allowed for a cleaner “look” and aesthetic on stage.

[@johnmordecai2776]

@@austinmark1987 At the very least, it's pretty dense for someone to think that it can't be done. "I don't see any pedals, so it must be fake." Especially watching this, it's clear he's actually playing. It's obvious when people are sync-ing to pre-recorded tracks; the guitar is very obviously being played. I think "guitar people" just don't know how to handle anything that come off like "guitar music." And I say that as a guitar person.

[@neilperrin4289]

This period is appropriately rated, not underrated. I can not fucking hear anything. Just sound and his voice over it.