"Biracial isn't Black" and other ridiculousness from Tik Tok

[@imthepool4573]

Being biracial in America is a weird Schrodinger's cat existence of being both black and white, and neither black or white at the same time. At least that's been my experience.

[@fredleeland2464]

All about perception

[@butchbottoms]

Being black and Mexican American has a similar effect of being doubled. I exist but I don't. I am black, native, and white but I am also none of those things according to how I'm perceived. Shit's made up.

[@epicmarschmallow5049]

Uh so when I look at you, you become black or white and never change from then on? Taking the analogy to its logical conclusion

[@dogsandyoga1743]

As someone who is not biracial, but living with a person who is (past 25 years) I will say that it can vary by upbringing. I know someone who is biracial (technically) but has always, to my understanding, identified as, lived as, and considers herself a 100% BW. To the point of being Hotep at times 😂. You can tell her she's otherwise at your own risk 😂

[@willowvin6627]

this. However I will agree that it definitely varies on how you're socialized. For me, being mixed was brought up all the time because my school really wanted to push the "racism is no more" thing. I was brought up as "proof". However I was also not included in black groups (not black enough), and bullied in white groups (for obvious reasons, I'm light-skinned but still obviously brown).

[@ruelongcha]

”you are whatever the cops see you as” is acc such an interesting take. as an asian american, I got labelled as “white” on police records when I got a traffic ticket, and I have firsthand witnessed my mom turn on her confused innocent asian woman persona to talk herself out of a traffic ticket (she very much purposefully made that illegal left turn lol). yet i’ve also experienced an array of mistreatment, anything from people calling me “coronavirus” or “communist spy” to straight up criminal acts of ab**se/discrimination. it’s distinctly bizarre to be treated as “one of us” one second and as someone who is subhuman or a threat the next. to my experience, asian americans are a so-called model minority used as a talking point against other POC, and on the flip side a convenient geopolitical scapegoat. i’m a white-adjacent “good POC” until they need someone disposable to push blame onto🧐

[@mistymoooooor]

hell no im not letting a cop tell me who i am

[@yunglynda1326]

well said

[@maloneaqua]

In practice, America only recognizes 2 colors: first is White- anyone who is white is considered white socially and occasionally on paper. If you possess enough western European features you are white-passing and likely also treated as a legitimate white (even if you have no European dna like most east Asians) Second is Black- black supposedly means that you possess a substantive amount of African dna , but actually in practice black just means visibly POC - so even if you have no African DNA (like most south Asian Americans) you are likely to go through some variety of fuckery socially, and occasionally on paper.

[@shepglennon8760]

@@maloneaqua so out of these two options, where does her experience as an Asian American fit? 🙏

[@thesisterversepod]

I saw someone say that how people are treated or prejudiced has less to do with their 'whiteness', but their 'proximity to blackness' in any circumstance.

[@lepus6511]

100% with you on the child court system upholding the patriarchy. The patriarchal men think children should be cared for by their mothers and that men should be providing for the family. And then when they get divorced and the court says the mother should care for the children and the father should provide, they turn around say "wow look women have all the power!" without realizing they created and support the system that has to operate that way. For some reason it took me a long time to get this when I was sort of in this sphere, but once you see it it makes perfect sense.

[@imanigordon6803]

FD literally describes how the whole of men didn’t create the system hence why it’s anti-men. However, for the redpill ytbers it’s extremely hypocritical.

[@Theohybrid]

Thing is, the women's lib movement adjusted but the justice system didn't adjust with it taking into account of working women. So the system remains sexist but to the detriment of men. Trad men want want values that many contemporary women probably despise yet will take advantage of a system that benefits then like divorce and division of assets. SaHM is a job indeed. I'm just saying it hasn't adjusted for women's desire for Equality and when it actually does happen like for Adele or Hallie Berry, then ppl complain it's a man getting benefits from their higher earning woman counterpart. It sucks on both sides when it happens.

[@miss_chelles1338]

Literally me.

[@wesleywyndam-pryce5305]

@@Theohybrid traditional values are garbage values. no women are not "taking advantage of the system"

[@LC-sc3en]

@@imanigordon6803 this is you agreeing with the comment above right? I consider "the patriarchal men" to be a subset of all men. And "red pill youtubers" to be a subset of "patriarchal men".

[@hinataXkibaforeva102]

I’m biracial as well. I identify as both a black and biracial. I’m not white passing and have VERY thick Afro hair that’s more in line with fully black people. I also grew up in a predominantly white area and have never been perceived as anything but Black by my peers and have dealt with. Something I think needs to be more talked about is the racism some biracial people deal with from their own white families. My father is a racist trump supporter who saw my mother as an exception when he met her. My mom had divorced him long ago but mistakenly assumed he couldn’t be racist because he was with her and let him have partial custody of us. The last time I saw him he called my brother a slur and then kicked me out for standing up for him. This is why I don’t care when someone says “I can’t be racist because I have black _____”. You absolutely can be and I tell people all the time to fully vet someone if you’re dating outside your race. Because you and your family will be subjected to that abuse if they are racist

[@i.i1215]

You’re biracial not black you’re both

[@flinnir]

Wow are you me? I mean I look more black than white but still mixed, but the family dynamic is highly relatable.

[@calidawg111]

If you identify as black….don’t claim to be biracial.

[@kingkobi99]

"racist Trump supporter". That's all I needed to know your dad probably isn't racist.

[@quincyjones5676]

Racism From white family is to be expected but do black ppl…..

[@Abingusbabe]

I found your thoughts on mixed race discourse really interesting. There’s a saying in indigenous communities in Australia (I am a white Australian) that relates to this “it doesn’t matter how much milk you add to tea, it’s still tea” The context behind this attitude is long and harrowing, for the full picture you should research “the stolen generation”. Basically, the federal government was actively trying to “breed out” blackness (indigenous Australian are also considered black, they are not African diaspora) they would kidnap pale black children, put them missionary schools and try to integrate them into white society (they would not have the same basic rights as their white neighbours) so that they could marry a white person and have children that would pass as white. This practice started in the early 1800s and “stoped” in the 1970s (black children are still being rehomed at not only a higher rate than white children but at higher rates than they were during the stolen generation, the 70s is just when explicit government policy changed) This is one of the many forms of genocide the government commuted against the indigenous peoples of Australia. However it has resulted in an extremely welcoming attitude to mixed race aboriginal people (hence the saying).

[@trampoline11x]

Same exact thing in the US with the Native children as well, almost point by point. It was considered quit legal and moral to take children away from their "primitive and degenerative" families to be re-educated to forget all about their heritage. It was only in recent decades they managed to have laws passed to stop children from being taken away from their tribal families so instead they would be rehomed to someone of the same or similar heritage. And now this recent year there are people trying to overturn the whole thing all over again. Im not particularly connected to native American history, but I know several other people, including one lady who grew up from that initial stolen generation here, its really harrowing to know how much they are still trying to preserve what they still have.

[@rahrahcamel]

Came here to say this too. My dad is indigenous and my mom is not. Because of blood quantum, if I have children with a non-native or even a mixed native from another tribal nation, my kid won't be legally enrolled in my nation.

[@Cinnamoncupquake]

Well this isn't how we treat blackness in the usa and I dont see how it is relevant here.

[@blaze14ZX]

That saying is awesome, the story behind it is tragic but you gotta appreciate the levity in the saying. Thank you for sharing this I've been meaning to research blackness in Australia.

[@dueldab2117]

it doesn't matter how much tea you add to milk its still milk.

[@Sevenpuddingsx]

Your "female gaze" is just you looking disappointed in us lmao

[@wajikhantv]

That’s most females in my life 😭

[@Sevenpuddingsx]

@@wajikhantv RIP guy 😭

[@yukiandkanamekuran]

honestly the female gaze thing confused me because its like. that guy in the tiktok looked like a serial killer.

[@sunnyday274]

@@yukiandkanamekuran you know, I didn’t get it until you made this comment. I thought maybe I was being to judgmental because I’m lesbian and don’t personally understand what makes that guy so attractive but now I completely understand, straight ladies on tiktok loooooove serial killers.

[@NoConsequenc3]

@@sunnyday274 can you explain why lesbians love Jerma985 though, it's a mystery to me

[@nbv6975]

From my experience being mixed white and Asian, I find that a lot of people seem kind of offended by biracialness. Biracial people challenge their idea of how race/ethnicity works, but instead of realizing they need to change how they think about the concept, they decide it’s biracial people who are the problem for not following conventions correctly.

[@LUX_8]

Question. How do you identify? And how does the "Asian" community, at-large, view you?

[@nbv6975]

@@LUX_8 That’s a complex question. I guess I identify as a mixed/biracial person, and as a Japanese-American, but also as a white person. I’m more white looking than most fully white people, that is what I am, and that’s how the world treats me. But that doesn’t mean that my ethnicity isn’t my ethnicity, or the culture I was raised with isn’t my culture. I can’t really say how the “Asian” community at large views me, because that’s far too broad. It just depends on the person. But unless I tell people otherwise, most everyone always assume I’m fully white.

[@kiaracoleman3310]

this is why people are offended by “biracialness” because you guys choose not to see the deeper issue… that’s a multi faceted statement. a lot of you have this “you guys are just bitter” attitude towards shit and it’s annoying as fuck. like no. you know exactly what’s going on and that’s what makes people even more annoyed. monoracial people shouldn’t have to be categorized with biracial people because desirability politics (which is dehumanizing by the way) will always skew the representation of said group. like in 2022 we should not be having biracial women being portrayed as a character with two black parents. there’s millions of mono racial people out there to fill those roles. and then they also get to fill the roles of actually biracial people. then there’s whole demographic of people and we know who they are, who are excluded from the narrative and that’s fucked up and unfair. there’s more i could say but i’m tired

[@beansfebreeze]

@@kiaracoleman3310 dawg you should really chill with the whole "you people" rhetoric and just say what you mean because rn you kinda sound like you're anti race mixing tbh. Just say colorism is a problem (valid argument) and that you think acting should be dictated by the exact genetic makeup of your parents (absolutely unhinged argument)

[@nbv6975]

@@kiaracoleman3310 You’re conflating my point with an entirely different point, and taking what I said in bad faith. I did not mention anything about Hollywood or colorism or any of that stuff, which I agree is a very real problem. To be honest, I think it speaks to my point that your first reaction to what I said is to assume the worst. Biracial people’s existence is not the problem, the problem is the racist society we live in.

[@theoriginalduotribal]

As a Nigerian, I find this discourse in the USA very fascinating. We don't struggle with this in most of sub-saharan Africa; if you have one parent of a different race you are considered mixed race. I think part of the issue in the US is the interchangeability of race and ethnicity, i.e. Black and African-American. In Nigeria if one of your parents is Igbo/Yoruba/Tiv/Itsekiri etc. you are 100% that, as well as 100% a part of your other parents culture too, not being "black" does not lead to you being disconnected or blocked (whatever the case) from your African culture and heritage. You belong, because you are one of us, especially if you were raised in the culture.

[@Vhlathanosh]

Every time you see it brought up just think racism and you'll understand.

[@kayade5305]

But in this case, imagine someone like Maria Carey being considered not white enough and they try to say she can claim Black...but can his his 25% white wife claim any part of whiteness?

[@niquelove2074]

It's not tho only bi people trying to make it one when we tell them their simple truth that their mixed. Black really ain't worry about this. They are who they are and we are who we are and no darker colour can change that as if there's not 100& light sink people who was not raped because that what they like to say about light black people smh.

[@ronalddeleon3991]

The complication is the one drop rule. There are people who the US government would label as black to keep whiteness pure. So that draws complication in identity. And since it hasn’t been law for years we as black Americans hold onto it since it’s been centuries. We as black people need to let it go

[@HulittyJing]

I think them being unable to process interchangeability is the legacy of segregation.

[@babyblue3717]

If you think the race thing is a mess in the US, you should see Brazil. Here, we have a 3rd race reserved for people with black heritage that don't want to call themselves or don't see themselves as black, which is "pardo" (it literally means something like tan or light brown). Brazil is EXTREMELY mixed to a point where lots and lots of people don't have any idea what their race is (including me). I have been called black, white, mixed, biracial, parda, mulatto, latina... And whenever i choose one of these to identify myself with, i get hate. Both of my parents are mixed. My mother's mother is biracial (black and white). My mother is biracial (black and white + turkish). My father's father is white. His mother is biracial (white and indigenous). There are so many different races in my family tree that the only way I can accurately describe myself is as a mixed person. I simultaneously look white, black, middle eastern and indigenous. And i look like none of those races, too. I have no idea what I am.

[@tesmith47]

You can choose to be a human working for HUMAN JUSTICE

[@VermontFootballBetter]

@@tesmith47pizza rolls are better tho

[@dontaskdonttell_]

Highly recommend a 23&me DNA test! ❤

[@tawanagradybulgado9385]

I spent 2 weeks in Brazil (Rio). It was talked about and it's so sad

[@ideac.]

As a pardo i also completely understand. Ive lived in the North, South and Southeast and in all of these places, many people have called me brown, white or simply mixed. And since i was a child, getting called black or white always felt off for me, i would always tell them that my parents had different skin colors therefore i couldnt be just one. But yeah in Brazil the race thing is even harder to know, and honestly, that can be seen as a good thing too. Perhaps we are at a level that skin color just shouldnt matter anymore since most of us are all mixed at its roots.

[@grady3236]

The Biracial discourse on TikTok reminds me of the similar discourse from a few years back (from TikTok too) of "Segregation wasnt THAT bad of an idea in theory" and its like: You only think this because the American history class you have yet to finish aren't gonna go into detail about how just bad it was

[@ryanevans3719]

Even MLK wasn't sure about segregation

[@nanyuanliang4399]

@@ryanevans3719 MLK felt like he integrated his people into a burning house. What folks fought for was the same resources they didn't need to be Integrated. Integration is assimilation and that means ⚰ to cultural norms.

[@dahliar410]

@@nanyuanliang4399 they fought to take black wealth because whites did not live as well as black people. That was what integration was for. The white to continue to survive.

[@belkyhernandez8281]

Don't know what you mean. History class taught segregation as bad when I was growing up in the 80s. Are younger people more conservative?

[@toddstroger9505]

I think MLK meant that the majority were a mess.

[@thefollowingisatest4579]

As much as I appreciate the highly researched, emotional, and longer form content, your general rhetorical style and more casual commentary are so entertaining I'll always watch what you put up. It's probably why your livestreams are so entertaining. Have a good holiday!

[@simarou1145]

I'm black and Puerto Rican, but I'm fucking ambiguous as shit and I'm always so self conscious about not being seen as black to black people but still having to deal with the negative connotations of being black. it sucks being alienated from half of myself because my hair doesn't curl enough or because I missed out on like one niche part of having a "black childhood" it turns blackness into this performance that has to be mastered for those who don't look the part

[@anothervictory2595]

That sounds terrible. Ppl need to think before creating mixed children.

[@mardalfossen]

I’m black and Puerto Rican too but I look very black Caribbean so I was always seen as “ethnic” black and alienated by African Americans based on that despite by dark skin. Then with Puerto Ricans I was just african american despite us eating the same foods and sharing the culture. I’ve always felt alienated by everyone and it’s hard. I don’t consider myself biracial just black for race and Puerto Rican for ethnicity.

[@martyrx3436]

That doesn’t make sense. Puerto Rican is a nationality. You can be a Black Puerto Rican…

[@mardalfossen]

@@martyrx3436 that’s what I’m saying? Racist people don’t get that Puerto Rican is a nationality and ethnicity but not a race.

[@user-cf8zs4up2b]

I'm biracial too and my parents helped me understand that Im not black. I'm definitely not a white person. No matter how society SEES me I'm BIRACIAL and that has helped move through the world confidently. My stomach turns at people who try to pressure biracial people into thinking they are black it's not biologically true bottom line.

[@kieronfarley1924]

Being a biracial guy as very clearly not white but not black either I definitely had the a black experience of fetishisation and otherness as a kid but I was also gatekept from blackness and the black community from my dark skin peers until I was 17 and spent more time in a city, it’s a very complex issue and every biracial kids experience is different depending on their complexion and where they live. My main hope is that we give these people a community they can go which will let them learn both their cultures and they’re not gate kept from communities as that can be really damaging when forming identity.

[@KeeperOfSecrets-42069]

Being a mixed dude I’ve been in this boat myself

[@brian_Austin27]

I just don't care about it anymore its all stupid but their are reasons why they both do that. White people use biracials to go against black people, and black people feel like since a lot of biracial people cling to whiteness for benift and then go to black communities for their benefits when their angry at white people. But biracial people do this but its nuanced and depends on where and the parents they grew up with in a way its kinda like being bisexual where ur constantly used for others protection(like gay men saying their bisexual to escape harm🤦🏾‍♂️)but hated for not fully being what others want u to be. Its either white or black. Gay or straight. I don't see a problem with people being biracial u just have to understand how ur going to be perceived and work around it. I like biracial people u have a unique look on race but u have to see both sides similarly how i see both sides in the straight and gay communities. Yes biracials and bisexuals have differences but have similarities especially the bi in their titles lol. Just know that blk people have distrusts of biracial people and white people don't really see biracial people not as fully or pure white. I can relate to an extent with bisexuality and being biracial but also having our differences

[@amdman4you]

Lol what both culture is just race .. like u acting like both race don't play football

[@BoooHooo]

Mix people need to form their own identity and stop trying to be white or black because truly y'all are neither and it is very disrespectful for mixed race people to identify as black.

[@ciaomamabella]

Love this perspective!👏 My son is biracial. For me as his “white mom”, I always tell him that because he is both, he is the true peacemaker; able to hold true peace in both because HE IS BOTH and ALLOWED to be both. For biracial or multi racial children, they have a unique ability to have THEIR OWN culture! Which, I think is one of the coolest things ever! The people on one side of the race or the other, make their skin color about culture, and respectfully, that’s always what it’s been about; recognizing their history. But multi racial kids/adults are now forming their OWN WITH BOTH 🎉 Fun fact-America and the world as a whole has had a masssive rise in bi/multi racial kids in GenZ. I’ve met so many genzers who completely understand and accept race SO MUCH MORE than previous ones. So, going forward, I think it will be really cool to see how humans evolve with this ideology ♥️

[@danielmcandrew979]

FD really is on some GOAT shit. His leftovers better than 90% of KZbinrs’ best crafted, hardest worked on shit

[@AyeGameBae]

Names? ☕👀👀👀

[@rileynornes2379]

Can confirm 👍

[@shettywap]

Stop lying to this man. 😆 acting like he the kendrick of b sides.

[@alext399]

he’s like Lebron

[@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023]

Came into the comments to say this, not surprised that you beat me to it.

[@roramdin]

this is the equivalent of an fd signifier jumpscare

[@the2ndcoming135]

Heads up! Incoming triggered non-mixed people feeling some type of way about your identity😂

[@Picxalate]

I'm Black and Polynesian and went through a pretty big identity crises in school. I can still remember the first time I questioned my blackness after a classmate told me that I wasn't *BLACK* Black because of my hair and because I was light skinned. I never even questioned it until then. I had a knee jerk reaction to that and said that I could grow an afro. Smh It didn't help that my dad is unquestionably Black and growing up fit that tough Black dad misogynistic role to a tee (Though I will say he's grown a lot over the past couple of years. And we have had some really tough conversations lately that lead to it). Shit like that got worse going into middle school and my friend groups started becoming more diverse. Low-key felt pushed away from a few of my black friends from elementary and we drifted apart. Even had a little animosity towards each other by the time we were teenagers. I started feeling alienated from the Black community a bit back then ngl. I'm a bit thankful in a way because in the end it helped me find my true self, and I met the best friends I've ever had as a result. I'm proud of my Black heritage, but I also don't sweep my Polynesian heritage under the rug like I did as a kid just to fit in with my peers. It helped me explore things I would have never looked at otherwise, and allowed me to meet a lot of dope people. At the end of the day the real ones stood by me. My closest friends are Black and biracial to this day. I've accepted that I'm black depending on the given context when it comes to daily interactions. Sometimes I'm seen as Black, other times mixed, other times Arab, or people just don't even know and straight up ask me.😂 So many damn interactions where people ask what my ethnicity is.🙄 But it is what it is at the end of the day.🤷🏾‍♂️

[@larsnyman2455]

We’re about to experience the Little Joel-ification of FD, this should be fun.

[@BrigitteEmpire]

We’re all booby champs now

[@jortiz7920]

Ay what you mean by that? 😭

[@GabrielRodriguez-vv6lb]

This is an artisan KZbin Channel!!! He would never use TikTok's!!!

[@kuromi8384]

omgggg i hope so

[@hallehuckleberry]

@@BrigitteEmpire let’s get twisted

[@sho_alii]

i’d like to think that with how far this channel has come. A 30 minute video from F.D Signifier, is like this channel’s contribution to youtube shorts

[@tfh5575]

biracial experience is real. i’ve had people think i’m lying about having a black father…i’ve had white people be like oh i thought you were italian or greek. black ppl usually think i’m latino. EYE personally think i have african features. it’s my lineage and antiblackness deeply offends me in a way anti whiteness never can. my skin is light but my hair has some curl to it and i have full lips. when i call out white ppl for being racist, they think i’m being irrational because they don’t direct it towards me. they say things around me they’d never say to an unambiguously black person.

[@the-based-jew6872]

There is no such thing as racism. Only tribalism. My tribe a Marxist man coined that term.

[@bampo8436]

This is interesting

[@julianellison5347]

Bro people thinking I'm lying about having a black dad is INSANE

[@angel127_]

i thought i was the only one who wasn’t even thought as biracial i don’t have the typical “look”💀 ppl think i’m north african or middle eastern

[@adalheidisofadamahcaptaino18]

I remember the first time I argued with someone about my grandfather being Black, I pulled up every verification I could have and still, the person I was arguing with refused to agree. It was then and there I realised, some people will go as far to be irrational to reject Mixed people's backgrounds. How do you see all of that proof and go as far to borderline say that I must have been born from a miracle like Jesus because there is no way that's my relative. Some people are weird as hell.

[@wplants9793]

As a child of a teen mom growing up in poverty I have to say YES a dad should pay child support

[@Raaaah__]

the fact that this even needs to be said is crazy 😭

[@dontaskdonttell_]

or don’t do adult activities without expecting to do adult responsibilities that come along with it. coming from someone that was ripped away from a young teenage mother by a perv father well in his twenties that continuously chased her for her money when she had NOTHING. not even a HS diploma. can’t blame one side or feel bad for another without talking about all aspects of the situation. child support for most single parents is just a way to “get back” at the other parent. I’ve seen it way beyond personal experience. Parents need to stop becoming parents before marriage. Teenagers shouldn’t be parents to begin with. Child support should be spent ON THE CHILD. often times it isn’t and that’s why some people are against paying it. There’s so many layers to the issue❗️💔

[@CrossKnights]

I appreciate the bi-racial discussion. I'm in that weird group that, if people look at me they don't always know what category to put me in. I would generally tell people that I'm half black and half white but that's just because my father looks very clearly black and my mother looks very clearly white. I've actually "come out" as being part black to people who had no idea who I've talked to for months and could tell they saw my different after that, or at least couldn't stop thinking about it. I've had people think that I was Hispanic, Native American, white, or black. When a cop sees me, I'm honestly not sure what they think. I'd love to see a further discussion on this issue from someone who is in a similar circumstance as my as I can't really talk to too many people besides my sister about it. I lived in a predominantly white neighborhood my whole life too so I don't even have many other black people to talk to about it. It's all just so weird and arbitrary.

[@jimjam8653]

I relate to you a lot. I'm biracial (half black and half white) and I am very racially ambiguous. I can pass as basically any race if I wanted lol (not full of course). It's very hard to know how people view me because it's always a different answer. It's even hard for me to view myself when I look in the mirror. Some people don't even believe me when I say my actual race's. Tbh I don't even care what anyone says about me anymore, I'm proud to be black, white and biracial. But ya I totally understand you. It can even be hard to relate to other biracial people sometimes cuz I experience race different from them. race can be a weird and confusing experience when people don't even know what you are.

[@christinaspencer8388]

This is me! I’m Black and white, but consider myself Black. But I’m pretty racially ambiguous and many people think I’m Hispanic.

[@user.421]

same. my mom is lighter skinned and hispanic. hispanics (regardless of race) and pocs see her as white, although non-hispanic whites would never consider her white. my dad is “definitively” black (as in no one of any racial or ethnic background would question his race). i genuinely don’t know what people see me as. throughout elementary i was fs the token black kid in my classes among almost exclusively white and white hispanic kids. I’ve also been friends with people who after months of knowing me were surprised to find out i had a black parent bc they thought I was “hispanic,” and in the past people have assumed that i speak spanish on sight, although it rarely happens now. thematically it’s seemed like black people have been last to recognize my blackness, but even that’s changed in recent years. idek anymore- the only consistency with others’ (and my own) perception of my race is it’s not white ☠️

[@ktozy2149]

The biracial experience is personally unique yet ubiquitous to every single one of us. How we are perceived comes down to how our genetics shake out, but many of us aren’t fully accepted into either side of our heritage. We get blamed for how our parents raised us. We get told we get to “choose” how to be perceived, when the opposite is true. So many of us have to “earn” our place in our communities, yet the moment we become successful we suddenly get an identity. Barack Obama, Bob Marley, Eartha Kitt, Alexandre Dumas, Key and Peele, and so many others- all mixed. There’s a lot of nuance to the greater discussion, like how the one-drop rule impacted how mixed people are recognized in the US, the role of colorism, how cultural identity is defined and how it differs from genetics, the history of colonialism, the politics of gatekeeping race vs acceptance, fetishization and other toxic attitudes, the anxiety around culture erasure, etc. I’d love to see a panel of speakers have a conversation about the biracial or mixed experience. JD Signifier got the right takes, I think he could help make it happen.

[@shettywap]

My dude, I'm sorry that the categories even exist to begin with. The invention of race has made what you are (a human being) into a need to belong to a group based on a variation of color. Here's to us finding our way out of that cess pool.

[@maskoolio5824]

We love to see you mailing it in. Bless. Edit: can't believe he called this a lazy video. So much well articulated insight.

[@emily48]

Love the vid FD, but I have to call out some misinfo with regard to child support and family courts. For context, I work in this field. Family courts don’t inherently favor women, they favor whatever outcome will end up with the state doling out the least amount of welfare possible. Courts WANT men involved because an involved father means the child is less likely to end up on assistance. Men that motion the court for custody/parenting time are almost ALWAYS granted at least partial custody, unless there is a documented history of abuse. The reality is that a lot of men never bother to petition for custody (for a variety of factors of course), and that is why women end up as custodial parents most of the time. As a society, we expect women to take on this labor, so they do. I have personally seen courts grant men sole legal and physical custody of their children after motioning the court due to the mother not following the court-ordered parenting time schedule. The idea that a mother can keep a father from their kids is a myth.

[@toomuchinformation]

One which is very widespread. Hence "they take your kids away from you" trope in the manosphere.

[@misslenorelee6322]

Im also watching the patriarchal view that it inherently wrong for the children to have their father kept away be weaponised. My cousins ex husband is on some pretty hard core drugs, physically abused her on multiple occasions even infront of the (very young kids). Shes out of it now but he still skips out on the time allocated to spend with his kids, and then calls the kids and tells them its her fault and "Mummy is keeping me away from you" (the kids are both under 10). I have told her on multiple occasions to just stop giving the kids the phone and get a no contact order, at least untill he sorts his stuff out; but the idea of denying him acces is unfathomable to her because she cant deprive the kids of their father (in her eyes)

[@emily48]

@@toomuchinformation it’s a very common and very unfortunate myth. I personally think it’s self-fulfilling as well. Why would someone go through the trouble of filing a motion if they believe the system is inherently rigged against them?

[@FDSignifire]

I'm sorry I beg to differ. I know to many men being kept from their children by various means. I know men that had to do go fund me to get money for lawyers to get access to their children, men who hired private investigators to find their own children after mothers absconded with their kids. Is it as simple and overt as manosphere folks make it, no, but there are definitely biases and blinds pots that hinder men who can't afford lawyers and fight for access to their children.

[@emily48]

@@FDSignifire Legal representation is very costly and definitely a legitimate barrier for a lot of folks. Although to be fair, assuming we’re talking about a contentious custody battle, the mother would be incurring expenses for legal representation as well. Part of my job requires me to review custody and child support court orders. It’s very rare, at least where I live, that men are awarded zero parenting time. Really the only cases I’ve seen this happen are situations of abuse or cases where the father was never involved and never developed a relationship with the child. (And usually visitation is ordered in those cases.) Uncooperative mothers can definitely make things difficult, but from what I’ve seen, that’s more so been a reflection of the mother’s unwillingness to comply with a court order than it has been a case of the court “keeping a man from his children.” Mostly what I was pushing back on in my original comment was this very prevalent myth that involved fathers are showing up in family court, begging for time with their kids, and then having a judge award them little to no parenting time. I just haven’t seen this happen. The system is not perfect by any means, but I have to push back on the notion that family courts always rule in favor of the mother and actively work to keep fathers from their children.

[@alienjesus796]

I think olisunvia's video on being asian american is very informative.If I remember correctly she discusses the idea that poc raised in NA define their race more by superficial experiences and activities such as AAV and music genres. I always got a bit of shit for being mixed in the form of microagressions at the hairdresser and stuff but the online space was when it hit me like a wave and I think that is because I was exposed to North Americans online. It really grinds my gears when someone on the internet who does not live in my country or knows me tells me I experience "racism lite". Like how can you accuse someone of that you've never met? Some people get highkey eugenicsy with it too. Or when I saw people saying "I hate mixed people they just want to say the N word" which is so delusional because nobody was scheming as an embryo who their parents would be so they could go round starting discourse

[@OLD.GREASE]

"This'll be a casual kinda video, nothing too heavy" 28.5 minutes later "It is a STUPID STUPID THING DONE BY STUPID CHILDREN" I'm applauding, though.

[@miacole]

yep, he lost it

[@ZachTheHuman]

_gasp_ a wild miacole! how lucky we are to see such a reclusive part of nature, as you can see she rarely ever leaves her bedroom so to see such a majestic creature out in the world is truly extraordinary.

[@Dash-dd1ro]

Who? Fd sig?

[@ivymuncher]

we all did a while ago

[@OLD.GREASE]

Were it not for the algorithm I'd dislike this as a joke. As a joke. There but for the grace of KZbin go I.

[@FDSignifire]

90 min Mia Cole video about geo political issues dropping this Friday yall

[@benstrempler]

Sometimes it’s worth it to appreciate the little things. FD brought a genuinely trademark grade energy here. The elf shirt, the crown ornament on the tree, the way he was laughing and having fun. All the points were casual and accessible but backed up by his more focused videos. Takes were good and persuasive, great videos aren’t only the video essays, if FD only did videos like this I don’t think I’d like that but it has its place and I really enjoyed it. Good video (:

[@d0gb3ar_r]

im black and hispanic and a senior in high school. i have mostly afro features, im just lightskin. growing up in ny, black people mostly just treated me as black, if only making lighthearted jokes abt me being lightskin. they never treated me as less black because i was mixed, which i definitely experienced a lot of when i moved to the south. i had never questioned my blackness before then, but a lot of other black people would ask if i was really black and would even be adamant i wasn’t. on the other hand, i experienced a lot more exclusion from my hispanic peers in ny due to the racism that’s very prevalent in the hispanic community (including my family). when i moved to the south they were more welcoming and said the n word slightly less so i guess an improvement lol.

[@dr.shlomosands1096]

There is a DIFFERENCE between LIGHT SKINNED BLACK and biracial

[@d0gb3ar_r]

@@dr.shlomosands1096 ok? i’m biracial and lightskin

[@drewberriesandcream]

I always find mixed race discourse hilarious because people always assume biracial people are light skinned and ambiguous, meanwhile my ex boyfriend is half Chinese and very unambiguously black. like, people are shocked when he tells them he's not 100%.

[@cryptbeast3222]

It also ignores black communities that have been pale for generations. We have only known being black, but people will argue we have to be something else because we look funny.

[@drewberriesandcream]

@@cryptbeast3222 i’ve wondered how albino black people are treated within the community.

[@cryptbeast3222]

@@drewberriesandcream I'm not albino myself but have several albino cousins. They were picked on a lot when younger, but the hostility when they're older is typically tied to facial features. If their features look more African than their race isn't denied. If their features seem more European or Asian they can get excluded too.

[@the2ndcoming135]

Right. Chances are if you’re really light skinned your dark skinned parent very likely has substantial non-Black genetics. Can be butthurt all they want. But, that’s what it is.

[@monkasmerp6614]

You’re ex is definitely not Chinese and even though he’s so black he still isn’t since he doesn’t have two black parents he’s mixed

[@ForeignManinaForeignLand]

Man y'all go to Nebula to watch the extended cut where AJ throw the mic 🤣🤣

[@Yupthatsme_7D]

Running over there now 😂

[@feykingjulian]

lolll thanks for the tip

[@misslenorelee6322]

Thanks for the heads up it was sorth jumping to a platform I pay for to support the principle then immidiately forget exists

[@Yupthatsme_7D]

@@misslenorelee6322 same

[@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023]

Thanks! Will drag hubby there next.

[@mahrinui18]

I've studied genetics, and one of the things they teach in an introductory human genetics class is that skin color is a multigenic trait, meaning that it's controlled by dozens of different genes that affect each other in different ways. There's very little way to predict a kid's exact shade based on the parents'shades alone without doing a genetic analysis. Just anecdotally, I grew up alongside a lot of mixed race kids with a white parent and an East Asian parent and very often these kids were darker than either parent, because genetics are super complicated and hard to predict.

[@feliznavidad6958]

Skin color has next to nothing to to with race. They dont even use it in forensic anthropology. Hair texture and skull shape are used to determine race along with facial features. There are certain skin color alleles only found in specific populations but only place I saw those used were in a study done on Ethiopians who have light skin alleles found in Eurasians since they have been found to have around 40% Eurasian dna.

[@electricay]

My dad ain't even light skin and I might be the lightest person I know lol

[@59Gretsch]

Sure skin color varies for a number of reasons but the reality is Africans carry certain genetic traits and if you’re half African you’re going to carry some of those traits and there’s no mistaking them.

[@mahrinui18]

@@59Gretsch To a certain extent that's true, but genetics is really complicated and people often don't look like you'd expect them to. For instance, the comedian Lukas Arnold is half-Black and looks completely white, no real trace of his African ancestry in his appearance.

[@59Gretsch]

@@mahrinui18 Some of what you say is true but it depends on how far apart genetics are. I would bet lots of money that Lukas black parent, was in fact not very black. African genes are very dominant. If you blend an Arab with an English, the Phenotype will present its self but by the next generation, it would be less obvious.

[@j_jizzle_69]

As a lightskin Native American it can sometimes feel like this mentality is much more accepted in native politics . I know why it is because genocide and some tribes are completely whitewashed but at the same time like I have both native parents and I was raised in the Rez how does that make me any less native?

[@eyjayy]

you know, that thing about women weaponizing patriarchy rly resonated with me. im nonbinary and often perceived as a woman, and when i do things people dont perceive as within the correct gender role they will let me know and try to change me in similar ways (see my mother talking down to me/being embarrassed of me for not wearing a bra). women do this just as often as men, sometimes more bc they perceive me as being a fellow woman and are uncomfortable with how im challenging something theyre comfortable with. that being said, i think there's an important piece that doesnt get discussed much. that is, that i think some (many?) women are doing this weaponization of patriarchy out of a sense of bitterness and resentment. after your whole life is ruined or controlled by patriarchy and youre constantly expected to perform certain gender norms, when you see a man not "uphold his end of the deal" if you will (expecting men to be providers, to not have feelings, etc) it can feel like a betrayal. like "im doing all this suffering and playing the patriarchy game bc [thats what you wanted from me, thats what you find attractive or expect, thats what other men have forced me to be, thats the only way i can feel safe in this society, etc] and then you turn around and are a full person with needs on top of it?? you want ME to comfort YOU, a MAN, when i dont get to have any needs or support around this gender shit??? [eg no one comforts me about being sexually harassed form a young age, i get blamed for being raped, i dont have bodily autonomy/abortion rights in my country, im expected to do all the shadow work without complaint]" idk, just a thought on some of the possible dynamics. i in no way mean to be defending this sort of horrible behavior. i fully agree with everything FD has said in the video. my relationship with a man has been so so strengthened by our ability to see each other as beings outside all this nonsense and treat each other with tender loving care and to accept one another's vulnerability with gratitude.

[@evi6629]

Oooh yeah as a cis woman there's definitely a... how do i say it, like there's a promise of sorts? The patriarchy markets itself to women by telling them that if they just endure everything, don't complain, don't talk back, don't step above your "station" that you get to have a "good man" who will protect you from harm. Like, you see this all over these days with conservatives trying to promote stay at home gf and wives as the ideal fantasy to women being crushed under the boot of patriarchy. It's the idea that one individual rich masculine "good" man can protect you from the dangers of sexism. And for most of history, women's only way of advancing the social ladder was through their husbands. And so women who buy into that, who "submit", can absolutely get this sense of betrayal if a man that they've given up everything to "get" doesn't end up fullfilling that promise. Now that can be really dangerous for the woman if the way they break that promise is by being abusive, violent, not respecting their autonomy and consent etc. And in that case they usually don't have the power or safety to express any frustration. (Which in this case is obviously more than righteous) But if that "betrayal" comes not through abuse, but through any gender-nonconforming behaviour? Any behaviour that is in itself not harmful but can be seen as the man not holding up his end of the "deal"? That can get ugly. The real problem being, of course, that the deal was dehumanizing and horrible to begin with and gender roles need to be abolished.

[@eyjayy]

@@evi6629 thanks for weighing in! this is exactly what i was trying to describe

[@parakellend]

I feel like this is very true! In a similar vein, I feel like sometimes people have the tendency to weaponize the oppression they face against other people like them or more oppressed than them if they feel they are out of line because they already feel dis-empowered and want to punch down or maintain what power they have. It can really make it difficult for people to view others as equals and people

[@yoginella]

@@parakellend Absolutely agree. What you describe is called internalized sexism.

[@blackpanthro]

We are actively re-negotiating what it means to be human.

[@MainelyMandy]

I enjoyed the energy of this. Its almost Christmas, let’s just chill and talk about some tiktoks. Exactly how I wanted unwind today. Thank you!

[@novelenterprise]

My thing about the whole biracial argument is that I’ve noticed ppl only care about you being biracial when you are exceptional or famous, when youre a drug a drug addict, alcoholic, or criminal in any capacity ppl have no argument with you being called black, but as soon as you excel you hear, “well theyre not ALL black, they’re biracial “ and my contention is “who will claim you when youre at youre worst” because in my experience black ppl claim our ppl good, bad, or indifferent. They might clown you for this or that or for the antics you performed but they never take away youre blackness… even the phrase “getting ur blk card revoked” is tongue in cheek, never literal, even when it comes to candance owens or condolezza or the like.

[@incognitonegress]

👏🏽 👏🏽 👏🏽 👏🏽 👏🏽 👏🏽

[@niquelove2074]

👏👏👏👏👏 they mixed and it's a matter of genes & that's really it.

[@jays-move8803]

@@niquelove2074 Did you know every black person with an American origin is mixed? Did you know tons of Africans are mixed? (Including West Africans, and including Nigerians.) My question is always this. Why do you blame US for what OUR PARENTS chose to do? Why do we have to live with that blame?

[@niquelove2074]

@@jays-move8803 not every black person mixed 😂 the next lie that's told about black people no more simply not ture we not all you.we don't have to be mixed to come different shades or hair texture not being just telling the truth . How do black people/ me blame anybody wow... telling you truth is not blaming it's simply facts. maybe it you all parents is at fault here for allowing to disconnect with how you truly are and not being considered something you're not. The question here is why aren't you glad to be mix my dear? You are who you are and that's OK love your ture self. Or forever look to fit in fully in the wrong place when you fit in with those you do from all the places you are apart of simply not one or the others.

[@saphire9823]

Exactly

[@chuutheecomrade]

i think this has put my opinions on the "biracial not black" conversation into words perfectly. i'm biracial and its weird asl that we are made to either change what we identify ourselves with depending on other people's feelings. its tiring and most of the time not based on anything other than a misguided attempted to use race science as a means of being more accepted by whiteness.

[@hillarysudeikis2264]

Lord Jesus Christ is coming back everyone, please don’t worship celebrities and entertainment, focus on Him alone. I promise there’s more to life than money, partying, homosexuality and music. Hell is real, repent from sinning confess your sins and ask God to forgive you, I know He will if you’re sincere. Hell is very hot, people please repent! In the mighty name of Lord Jesus Christ, Amen 🙏💪✝💜❤✝! Idolatry such as, Islam, Catholicism, Sangomaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Racism, Santa Clausism, Confucianism, New Age, Science, Evolution, halloweenism, Harry Potterism, Politics, Donald Trumpism, Easter Bunnyism and other religions/faiths that are outside Biblical Christianity lead to hell! Don’t believe them, believe the Almighty God the Father of Lord Jesus Christ, who begot Him. Our Creator, The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is mighty, He doesn’t need a woman to beget a son, He is God. I choose to put my faith in a God who can do anything and everything, a God who has unlimited and infinite power to beget! So, it’s time to confess that Lord Jesus Christ is the Lord and to believe that He died and rose from the grave after three days and you shall be saved if you only obey Him by praying, worshipping, praising, reading the Bible and living holy and righteously according to the Bible. You have to endure until the end, carry your cross daily and build your relationship with God by following Lord Jesus daily until the end. You must never renounce your faith in The Lord Jesus Christ, there’s hell awaiting those who reject/deny Lord Jesus Christ and those who continue living sinfully, even the Christians who don’t want to repent will face the same fate, so please repent beloved people, in Lord Jesus Christ’s mighty and precious Name, Amen.

[@martyrx3436]

I’ll put it simply: mixed people aren’t Black if they are 50% another race lol. If you are 50% Black, you aren’t Black. If you are 75% Black, you are Black…

[@user-cf8zs4up2b]

Lol fr. I get almost ZERO pressure to identify as white even though I look more white. But black people want to argue up and down that I'm black....it's just not biologically true. I'm BIRACIAL no one can confuse me about it & I will never have an emotional take on this. I'm biracial. Honestly black people need to gatekeep more and be more proud and protective over their race/identity like everyone else.

[@martyrx3436]

@@user-cf8zs4up2b Thank you. Mixed people aren’t Black lol. I’ve been saying that all over this comment section…

[@skatebordstephen]

​@user-cf8zs4up2b As a Black man, I totally agree. One drop ruling mixed people into blackness undermines blackness.

[@daniella8400]

As a biracial person, I am just that! Biracial, I’m both black and white!! It’s not a hard concept and I won’t force myself to one side. Idk why people can’t accept this

[@Waters..]

You’re literally the smartest person ever idc what anybody says. People make the shit so hard when the work is already done for them. Being bi/multiracial, the definition itself is what you are. Everybody else that’s one race, we follow that concept, so how is it any different for a mixed person? I mean literally we make shit so hard. Glad you’re one of the bright ones ✊🏾

[@nilsasalgado2777]

He's not saying that biracial isn't an identity. He's saying that biracial isn't an institutionalized racial category in the U.S. A mixed raced person is both AND, not 50/50. You are two races, not half of each - does that make sense? In the US the historical context surrounding race means that you culturally belong with the racialized part of your identity.

[@RachelLondon]

I agree with you. People are out here acting wild, forcing one on the other. You're mixed-race/ biracial. The US has not had a black president yet. The foolishness of some people.

[@daniella8400]

@@nilsasalgado2777 no I’m half of each because that’s how DNA works.

[@Vanjee24]

Thank you! It’s really not a hard concept to understand. I think it’s hella rude to expect a biracial or mixed person to only identify as black bc of the “one drop rule” it’s really weird and giving gatekeeper.

[@Izathel1]

I am a biracial male (white and black) and it has definitely been a struggle in NA. My skin color is pretty close to white, but my facial features and hair are definitely phenotypically black. My father is quite dark skinned and grew up in Alabama in the 50s and 60s. I have always identified as black...but it has been a ride. White kids when I was growing up loved to mock me for having "big lips" or like to ask to touch my hair. They figured it wasn't racist because I wasn't "really black". Most black people (and in my experience all police) consider me black, but I do run into the occasional five percenter who likes to tell me that I'm not "really black". The most annoying is the subset of black people that see or meet my parents and k me if my father is my real father. Being biracial in America is...a ride.

[@Izathel1]

@Kaci I can't know the minds of kids, especially in hindsight, but I'd say they felt like it was safe to make racist jokes/commentary because I was also white and that made it, in their minds, "not racist". I think they definitely saw me as black, and certainly as "other", but figured it was a "loophole" to be racist without repercussions.

[@Izathel1]

@Kaci I had another reply but I deleted it because I realized I was being defensive and uncharitable. What conclusion are you attempting to draw? I think being black in America gets you treated as black by the white supremacist system even when you are mixed.

[@whym6438]

I'm a Jewish guy, and while that definitely isn't the same as being biracial, I very much know what being white and not white at the same time feels like. Solidarity.

[@adeola_63]

it's so stressful lmao

[@meeeeeeeeeeeep]

​@@Izathel1 I'm also biracial who has gone through very similar experiences like you have. It's so weird and hurtful to hear some Black people try to erase my Blackness by saying I'm "not Black." Sometimes I've shown them pictures of my Dad and his family and then they retaliate with, "But you're not Black, you're biracial!" For me, it's hurtful because I am so proud of who I am and where I've come from. I see Black as beautiful in such an intimate and deep way that to have some try to deny that part of who I am when all I want to do is embrace my Blackness has been difficult to navigate in the past. My dad grew up in Mississippi in the 50s/60s picking cotton and I'm SO PROUD of him and my relatives on his side of the family. Before my Dad passed away, he spent our entire lives teaching my sisters and I about who we are and where we've come from since we were very little and it's made us love ourselves that much more. I'm so grateful to have had him. He knew it was critical for us to understand these things before society tried to get us to hate who we were simply for being Black. Unfortunately, some, especially in the Black community, will say things like, I'm "not Black" which has been very hurtful and exhausting to hear my entire life. I now try my best not to let it get to me, but like you said, it's a ride for sure. Obviously since I'm also white, there's privileges in that which I would never deny. Also, I've seen many horror stories from biracial people with white mothers who tried to dismiss the Blackness in their biracial children but our mom has always been the opposite of that. Of course I learned about my mom's side of the family as well but I never felt like she was trying to negate our Blackness in any capacity, which sadly many biracial people can't say about their white mothers. Anyway like you said, being biracial is certainly a wild ride 😂

[@missantrafalgar782]

Omg. My bf wasn't emotionally intelligent at first. He had a lot of emotions but he didn't necessarily know if he could express them. So I told him to express his feelings. Omg I did not know it was that much. I had to sit back and just listen. At first it was really hard to do because I've never met a man that could talk so much. But after a while (a short while) it started Good conversations, good discussions, we literally talk about everything, and we never really get angry with each other because we understand each person's point of view or how we think for the most part.

[@luisnunes8099]

It's interesting hearing the way you guys discuss the biracial thing in the EUA, because for me, as a black brazilian man, there's no black person here who isn't biracial to some extent (except the elites who never really view themselves as brazilians). As a country that's gone trought a process of "whitening" between the late XIX century and the XX, that created the mith of a "racial democracy" where racism doesn't exist, the debate around here is rarely two sided (as to like FD said, black vs not black) and the greatest issue revolves around people realizing that they are in fact black, and that we are a racist country

[@Africa1000]

No black person in Brazil who "isn't" biracial. Get yourself down to Bahia.

[@beansfebreeze]

I've always rocked with my biracial-ness being like a racial qualifier that doesn't necessarily supersede black/white. I am black and I am white but being both has altered the meaning of both as I'll never be seen as solely one or the other but I'd still never call myself JUST biracial because that term on its own doesn't adequately describe me

[@whiro8945]

Yeah because racial categories are social constructs that weren't invented to include bi/multiracial people, just like western gender never thought of non-binary people. Biracial and non-binary people challenge race and gender as a whole, whereas Black and trans men/women fight the system from within it. Both are needed and neither of them get in the way of each other.

[@jays-move8803]

I agree with this. It is not an identity, as much as it is a descriptive term. It's like, are you white, or are you a red-head?? It's two different categories that are being discussed when you ask someone are they black OR biracial. You should really be asking, are you mixed or not mixed? Are you one race, or are you the child of an interracial couple?

[@215ariley]

i this part of the reason when people ask i tell them im black and i have a white dad or vice versa. saying is the other way is always fun bc i can see the confusion in their eyes before i say the black momma part.

[@queennanny4792]

👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@DustyBanditRepellant]

But why tho?

[@HopetheVixen]

Absolutely love this video style!! Do anything you want with your content, the amount of effort you put into your videos has been SO INSAAANE. You totally deserve to make whatever kind of content you want!!!!

[@ayo2015]

With regards to the biracial/mixed race discourse, I think it's important for us as black people to stop always viewing ourselves through the eyes of prejudiced white people (e.g. cops). We need to accept that biracial people are both black and white (or whatever race they are mixed with). But also not black and not white (or whatever other race) - they are both. Two things can be true at the same time; life is full of contradictions. As a (Yoruba) Nigerian, though, biracial people are *not* seen as black. They are often called "oyinbo", meaning white. And these are African people viewing themselves and each other through a *black African* lense.

[@JulianSteve]

THANK YOU FOR COMMENTING THIS😭🙌🏾‼️I think the same way too and I talked about it in one of my videos back in October. I go in-depth on the topic, but it’s U.S.A. base mainly, so good to know✊🏾‼️

[@ayo2015]

@@JulianSteve thank you, I am about to watch your video now

[@pisceanbeauty2503]

I think it makes sense for people in Africa to see things how they do, but I also think it makes sense for people in the US to see things the way they do as well. Imo there is space for different definitions of race based on history and culture.

[@ayo2015]

@@pisceanbeauty2503 yes I definitely agree with that but often the explanation for unequivocally categorising mixed race (I am from the UK) people as black is that "white people will always see them as black" and I am suggesting that we stop always framing ourselves how white people see us. However, I do acknowledge that a fully black person is more likely to look "mixed" than a fully white person.

[@JulianSteve]

@@ayo2015 Thank you so much :)

[@andthatsshannii]

I find the “biracial people aren’t black” argument really funny, personally. I’m biracial, but I’m half South Asian, not white. Some people seem to forget that there’s more than one way to be biracial. So, I get a lot of people saying “no, not you. You’re black. I mean half-white biracial people.” The line is so arbitrary. Also, here in the uk, we don’t really use terms like “coloured” or “mulatto” to describe biracial people. It is much more established, though. Saying that: again, there’s a lack of understanding that biracial people don’t have to be mixed with white. On forms, it’s like “white and black”, “white and Asian” “mixed other”

[@MK_ULTRA420]

I'll save you a bunch of time and tell you that society doesn't care about hapas unless they're female or tall pretty boys.

[@chidiogoikeh4550]

A lot of people in the uk don’t see biracial people as black though. That’s just one drop ruling. I agree with you though. There are many different ways to be biracial

[@afckajjansi]

All biracial is mixed race but not all mixed race is biracial. And biracial or mixed race is not black. Go argue with biology.

[@andthatsshannii]

@@afckajjansi pretty stupid thing to say considering “black” isn’t a biological term.

[@andthatsshannii]

@Leah the idea of blackness is a social construct, therefore gatekeeping who counts as black is also social and not “biology” as that idiot claimed. The one drop rule is rooted in racism. However, denying people blackness when they have been treated as black and identify with a culture from the diaspora is absolutely ridiculous

[@micah459]

23:26 this has always been my thing too. People like J. Cole is looked at as black while people like Logic will more likely be treated as white. It doesn't mean they aren't biracial, but people don't see your family when they look at you but your phenotype/physical characteristics

[@iateyursandwiches]

Which is fair because that is how you will be perceived and treated by the police and prejudiced people. Whatever you look like is what you are, unfortunately. However, that only makes sense when we consider the nature of race and what it means.

[@gavinmcphie6936]

I seriously don't mind this type of video from you! It makes for easy watching and you get the chance to look at a good range of topics aha

[@nightmarilyn]

LOL the "whatever the police think you are" got me. I am Blackipino and I f*x with all the sentiments/points you laid out. Last year, I got pulled over for literally nothing (like the court sent a letter telling me my case was thrown out) and I remember seeing the traffic ticket this cop gave me and under race it said "Black" So ye iykyk

[@underestimated1171]

The police line is played out.

[@nightmarilyn]

@@underestimated1171 maybe when it stops being accurate we can stop saying it 💀

[@chidiogoikeh4550]

@@underestimated1171 very much so. As if all black people are being pulled over by the cops with a gun to their head🙄 not all black people live in America. And even in America it’s not always a reality

[@anothervictory2595]

You sound corny. You let a low IQ cop tell you who you are?

[@Ksgr867]

@@nightmarilyn it's actually a very dangerous stereotypes and proves that u guys can only relate to the black experience under superficial pretenses

[@ToriOfTheNile]

I just want to know… when white peoples don’t consider biracial people as white, or another races don’t consider half black people as their respective race… why isn’t it an issue. Why are black people the only ones villainized for not considering biracial people who are half black as black, and viewing them as what they are… biracial. Most groups completely erase biracial people from their race and just call them black. Some Black people are simply considering biracial people exactly what they are and somehow that’s offensive. I don’t get it.

[@toomuchinformation]

It's the one drop rule which BP insist on keeping, Lord knows why.

[@anothervictory2595]

They love bullying us. Whenever I see full-blooded blk ppl go hard for biracial acceptance I know it's because they're planning on having a biracial child in the future. Otherwise, why else would they fight against their own interests?

[@anothervictory2595]

@@toomuchinformation They're securing a spot for their biracial children atop the blk colorism hierarchy. They know that they won't be accepted by their yt side, so we become the dumping ground for the rejects.

[@DarkAngel2512]

White people donnt view mixed race people as white OR black because theyre not. Theyre mixed. Its not that difficult.

[@brydonthunder]

Jim Crow laws still have a strong influence on the peoples mind. Most of my American friends have trouble acknowledging anyone as being anything other than black that is mixed race. Anglo-African Asian-African Caribbean/ Black South American all = black

[@LQC13]

I'm a black brazilian man ( non-ambiguously black, some would call me mulato or whatever depending where they from). In my country, due to the whitening of society attempt that we suffered "in the past", it is utterly difficult to deal with the concept of blackness if you are ambiguously black. there are people trying to disassociate with their blackness and others who embrace it. it is crazy tho, because a Vin Diesel would mostly be seen as a non black person for a lot of us. I have seen white people with afros here... which somewhere else would probably make them black... as i said, crazy and complex. There are cases which brazilians who have claimed to be white for decades, have a reality check when traveling abroad and realizing that europeans perceive them as negroes, another common phenomenon here is people who find out they are black after their 20s or 30s, shit, even 40s. Anyway, I really appreciate your videos, keep it up brother

[@LQC13]

@@loadishstone word! On Brazil's status quo, is said a lot of Far-fetched ideas, such as that we live in a country racially democratic, or every one is a litle bit black therefore racism is not real, some say " yeah but it is worse in the US" as if it made things easier here...some just literally deny racism, and say that those who want to acknowledge its existence are big cry babies... It is messed up, very messed up

[@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl]

Being black is made up you know that?

[@sjbrooksy45]

I read an article years ago that talked about Brazil and how people there see themselves and how often their actual genetics tell a different story.

[@yeet-xm1nu]

This actually so true i only realized i was biracial when i completed 18 years because i'm always perceived as a white person. my skin its kinda yellowish pale, but i have coily afro hair and black features, and ever since i was a kid i suffered with microaggressions towards my hair but never towards my skin and because im always perceived as white i only learned how to take care of my hair when i completed 18 years

[@LQC13]

@@yeet-xm1nu where u from fam?

[@Jojo-tf2zp]

The bi-racial conversation still has me feeling a certain type of way, but I do think it's me and my feelings missing the forest for the trees. As Kahdija would say I am hooked, I am activated 🤣

[@kirakira3737]

I remember seeing if "you lightskin/biracial you ain't black" tiktoks, it honestly hurt my feelings lol. Because I remember growing up never really felt "black" and my lightskin didn't come from having a white parent so I didn't identify as "white" either. Kinda just felt like an alien as a kid (my gen z experience lol)

[@InLisa_UTrust]

Same❤

[@kid-ava]

damn I kinda relate to this too

[@kirakira3737]

@@katlynnbell Hey what was that reply to somebody or to yourself? Jus wondering 🤔

[@kirakira3737]

@@katlynnbell To respond to your reply, I identify as a lightskin black girl. Not biracial. (I decided to cut out the extra lol)

[@tonisharday8777]

Not you playing the victim or colorism and truth. Nah, biracial isn’t black and I’m sticking to it, you lost me here my man. This is why black people aren’t getting roles. Because they think forcing Dave’s like Zendaya, a white AND black woman, not a black woman, is good enough. Full black women can be black women. Biracial women are biracial.

[@CatEyedGoddess]

As a biracial person I actually understand why some in the black community don’t see biracial ppl as black. I’m biracial ( white mother, black father) I don’t consider myself black, I don’t look black, I don’t really know my black side of my family, my experience has been that of a white girl. A decent amount of biracial kids in my HS didn’t identify with being black but my HS was mostly white so I guess some of them found it easier to lean more into their white side.

[@anothervictory2595]

Thank you. It takes guts to go against the popular narrative.

[@miabrown4679]

I never looked black either but my father and his side of the family very literally told me I was "mulatto" my whole life. I have drawings I did as a child me and my dad would have brown skin and my mom had peach. I was much closer with my dads family than my mothers and even now (most people assume I'm Puerto Rican) I feel uncomfortable saying I'm white because it feels like I'm denying my dads side of the family and how they wanted me to be proud of being "black" but also looking the way I look its I'm clearly not. It was hard to understand.

[@alexblaze1040]

I'm biracial but raised in a black family. I don't identify with my white side at all. Didn't meet them until I was an adult. I'm biracial but I'm black.

[@niquelove2074]

Thank you telling the real truth❣

[@niquelove2074]

@@alexblaze1040 yes your black and whatever your other side is. The way your grow up don't change your genes.

[@kee4712]

Great video but I'm biracial in England and ive only been called 'mulatto' once by someone Italian and that didn't go down well. It's offensive to me, and not used widely in the UK, at least in my experience/to my face. 'Half-caste' or sometimes even 'half-made' in older generations are common, which I find offensive too. But most people use mixed-race or bi-racial.

[@Kohanman]

Half-caste by John Agard Excuse me Standing on one leg I'm half-caste Explain yuself Wha yu mean When yu say half-caste Yu mean when picasso Mix red an green Is a half-caste canvas? Explain yuself Wha u mean When yu say half-caste Yu mean when light an shadow Mix in de sky Is a half-caste weather?? Well in dat case England weather Nearly always half-caste In fact some o dem cloud Half-caste till dem overcast So spiteful dem dont want de sun pass Ah rass Explain yuself Wha yu mean When yu say half-caste? Yu mean tchaikovsky Sit down at dah piano An mix a black key Wid a white key Is a half-caste symphony?

[@tazisayshi]

Wow I've lived in the Caribbean, and in Bolivia, and I've been called Mulatto many times. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being called a Mulatto, it's actually quite common in Latin America, and it just means you are mixed from African and European descent. I've never heard of someone getting offended over this word. Really weird.

[@kee4712]

@@tazisayshi Hi, I guess it's because I've only ever heard or seen mulatto in a slavery context, along with other words to describe people based on their how much black ancestory/blood they have (vs. how much white ancestory/blood mostly) and therefore value/position in society etc. So it gets my back up. But thank you for sharing your experience, I've learn from it!

[@JLDReactions]

@@tazisayshi Agreed. I'm from Louisiana which was a French colony, and the term mulato is not offensive in the least. The mulato families here use it as a term of pride.

[@sjbrooksy45]

Come on, ya'll got to give us something cooler than that. Like some GoT type verbiage, like my blood is alloyed from the two great houses from betwixt it flows.

[@Faithscanvas]

On tik tok the conversation around is biracial black is the worst I’ve ever seen it. In my whole 23 years of life my blackness was not questioned around other black ppl. I said a take on a video in the comments about Rue from euphoria’s relationship with her mom. The creators narrative was that the mom did not act like a black mom. From my personal experience (I do have a black mom) and through media I find that black children have dealt with abuse being normalized in the community. A whooping being seen as the default punishment. Media especially loves to portray the working class black family with the abusive strict parents ( ex. Everybody hates chris). In contrast you had Malcom in the middle a white working class family where the parents were strict but violence was never the solution. Anyways, I commented on the video that I don’t want rues mom to be portrayed as the abusive stereotype. Ppl came for my NECK. Black and white thinking is rampant on that app. They immediately told me that I am the one who is stereotyping black moms. Despite everyone acting like the black experience is one experience. The creator of the video also did not put much of a joking tone to her take. Ppl also would say I must be white with out looking at my page, even calling me racist. They also especially said that I must have a white mom. The icing on the cake is that the creator replied to my comment with a video publicly. She said that I must be speaking from personal experience here and I’m the one saying stereotypes. Exactly…. I am speaking from personal experience. But despite that awareness there was no empathy. Because I wasn’t seen as black enough to join the conversation by her group, her followers. I never in my life have I ever felt the “im not black enough for the black kids” experience. Because half of me is Jamaican I’m first generation. I relate to the black immigrant experience. I also think I have a good head on my shoulders. My mom always reminded me of my privilege. I don’t intersect into conversations that I don’t relate to or understand. I am never acting like I know the full black experience as a half white have black person. Colorism has really messed up the black community. I feel people wanting to shut down anyone with privilege if what they say doesn’t match up 100%. It’s weird, because white supremacy wants that. It wants a minority group to beef with each other. Overall it’s a complex conversation with many nuances we know this. But I’d be lying if I said that experience in the tik tok comments didn’t hurt me. Because it showed me there are too many people who can’t see outside themselves. Can’t put themselves in other ppl shoes. Which leads to little change. The conversations on tik tok although chronically online have reached too many damn ppl.

[@the2ndcoming135]

Idk man. I was specifically told by Germans that I’m German royalty. They didn’t have to tell me that even tho I’m not 100% German🤣

[@feliznavidad6958]

White supremacy lives on in the one drop rule and when people use "white passing". Mixed people can just be mixed. It obviously isnt the same as being black..

[@wekselbaum]

Huh, I see why they came for you. It could be unintentional but you seem to have conflated their comments about the character not acting “black” with your opinion that you don’t want her to be an “abusive black parent stereotype”. I feel like a lot of biracial people fall into a trap of thinking they’re rejected because of their identity when it could be the things you say and the way they’re said. Malcolm in the Middle’s parents were abusive af. I think they took issue with the assumption that her not acting black means acting black = abuse.

[@Faithscanvas]

@@wekselbaum There was no assumption. Ppl in the comments left and right said “yeah if she was a black mom she’d be whooping rue”. Or “I’d be locked up for days if her mom was black she wouldn’t have a chance to do drugs”. Something I see in the black community a lot is people joking about their parents displaying certain behaviors that are at the end of the day abusive. It’s a problem. People coming for my neck saying I’m perpetuating a stereotype, but in the same breath expressing abusive behaviors is a problem. Maybe I should have clarified that part. It is also a problem that people in these conversations jump to denouncing someone’s blackness instead of doing empathy. like I said I never had questioned my blackness or felt insecure of where I stand with the community. I speak where I have experience. I am a emotionally intelligent person with a life experience. The media loves portraying black parents as abusive period. Malcom in the middles parents didn’t beat their children. White media stopped referencing beating their kids a long time ago. But there around the same time had everybody hates Chris. In that show they repeatedly referenced him getting his ass beat by his dad for comedy. Im not making this up. I think some of you just don’t let yourself see it bc of cultural experience.

[@Faithscanvas]

@Leah I don’t know what you’re talking about. You honestly seem a little upset. I identify as a mixed BLACK person, and speak when my experiences aline with the conversation. Ppl were coming for me (even white people which was weird) bc it didn’t completely align with their opinion of how rue’s mother should have acted as a black mom. If you haven’t seen euphoria then maybe we can talk when you have.

[@marialaros4198]

So happy you got a chance to have a less taxing video to create! All your content is awesome and I look forward to seeing next years!

[@Cazzz-c3k]

I'm so glad to see someone like you addressing this issue. I am biracial. 1/4 black, 1/4 chinese, 1/2 Central American(1/4 native american, and 1/4 spanish european). I grew up with a Half Black Half Chinese Mother and a Full black Step Father. I don't know any of my biological fathers side of the family and probably saw them last when I was about 4/5 years old. My bio father passed when I was really young and my mom was already remarried. I grew up in a black neighborhood and most of my friends and family are black. When I am around hispanics I don't feel like I fit in because I don't speak spanish and I usually at some point feel like an outsider. I also don't fit in with asians because I am too dark. I have found that the most accepting race is my black side. But I do often feel insecure because I feel like I'm not black enough. If you were to see me I look fairly hispanic/polynesian with curly hair. Sometimes its hard because I really don't know how to identify myself because I am literally 1/4 of 4 different races. Not really enough of anything to claim anything.

[@Sandrinarhonda]

You’re multiracial just like Tyla & you are able to claim all parts of you which is a good thing . Celebrate all of your cultures.

[@raave88]

thank you so much for your input on the biracial discourse unc. the whole time I was growing up people would call me anti black slurs to my face for being half black but now that being black equates to "cool" I'm "not black enough." In my experience, the people who seem to dictate a lot of this discourse are whites and latinos so it's generally pretty easy to ignore.

[@tiahnarodriguez3809]

I’m my experience it’s black propel who dictate when biracials and mixed race people are seen as black. Notice how Zendaya is called black or biracial depending on how people feel about her at any given time, but Rihanna, Halle Barry, Beyoncé, etc are seen as black despite being biracial or mixed race.

[@melaninnrice9618]

We as Black Americans will never escape the shackles of the one drop rule and biracial debate

[@giav878]

Because the foundation of the conversation is really white supremacy and patriarchy, two forms of domination. So until we are living in a world where that is eradicated, the conversation will continue to be circular.

[@martonyomchale342]

No we escaped it. The new generation going forward isn't counting biracials as Black.

[@angelganggirl]

nope

[@giav878]

@@martonyomchale342 that literally proves my point. Excluding biracial Black from the collective Black community is literally a symptom of white supremacy. It’s the inability to develop class consciousness because the community is divided in experiences based on colorism, which again came from white supremacy. All that “moving forward no biracials are Black” only weakens the community and leaves us more disenfranchised.

[@martonyomchale342]

@@giav878 It doesn't disenfranchise us. Most biracials are not poor so I don't know how you are talking about class consciousness when our top 10% wealthiest Black Americans are Black immigrants, Biracials, ppl who married outside their race, Black boomers and those hooked to them, and Black celebrities. So we got our class consciousness. We are a race of working class African Americans with two African American parents. No y'all are too obsessed with light skin, good hair, and biracial women. We are going to raise a psychologically healthy race of ppl going forward. By allowing Biracial people to exist in our group you all, and predominantly Black men will put it on a pedestal. We got 29% of Black men married and 20% if that is to biracials and non Black women. Then the other half of them are married to light skin women. No we have a problem you all aren't providing a solution for. Who is going to marry the Unambiguous dark skin Black women? The solution is to tell them to marry out, and the then produces more mixed ppl and eventually more White ppl. And that still doesn't address Black men refusing to marry dark skin women. No y'all got no solution besides accept the biracials.

[@abookishmess]

For the whole biracial section if anyone is curious there's a section on it I believe in WHY ARE ALL THE BLACK KIDS SITTING TOGETHER... I think for men being biracial is neutral but for women it can be a whole other ballpark because of being young and "competing" for men. Not to mention high school is peak colorism to me.

[@PrincessWhatsername]

As a biracial black woman, I have to agree based on personal experience. All throughout my childhood every adult in my life always told me I was "pretty", and yet I grew up so insecure about being mixed and not fitting in as I got bullied A LOT, particularly from other young black girls and women up until even my mid 20s. Actually had one black coworker actually admit to me that she didn't wanna be too nice to me because she thought "mixed girls usually think their sh*t don't stink, but I see now you're cool I guess." And maybe that's been her experience, I don't wanna take that away from her, but it certainly opened my eyes up to why many black girls and women always treated me the way they did...competition and insecurity, with colorism obviously being at the root of that. Sadly, I think that's why I ended up with a lot more white friends in school tbh. They were nicer to me 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@beansfebreeze]

The biracial aspect for men is really weird depending on the circles you run around in. Some 100% treat it as a neutral topic and, but I was basically shunned by the grown black dudes around me when I was a kid because I wasn't black *enough*. It was the weirdest form of colorism cause I didn't hold much social capital since I didn't look like the actors/musicians/athletes the people around me looked up to.

[@dinkyboss]

@@PrincessWhatsernamengl a lot of my experience dealing with biracial women is that they go out of their way to lean into their “privileged” position as being assumed to be more attractive. That makes it genuinely difficult to befriend them because they do say colorist stuff and while I’m not dark skinned I’m still not comfortable being around that. So typically my friendships with biracials go south…

[@PrincessWhatsername]

@kaci719 ummm...no, I don't think that's correct lol. I think I can make a better judgement about my friendships and relationships over my lifetime than a stranger on the internet, as I am the one actually living my life lol. Some of my white friends were low-key racist and saw me as the token POC and we are no longer friends. Others (and not JUST white people, if I have to explicitly say it) have been friends for nearly a lifetime and it's because there's not weird politics or competiton, and because, you know, we just love each other and vibe as friends do. And I get along with black women much better as an adult than I did as a kid, probably just due to being an elder millennial and both myself and my peers have just grown out of that mess. And with all due respect, I will never tell a dark-skinned black woman (or someone from any other marginalized group) whether or not their lived experiences are valid because that's never going to be my experience, so I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't tell me what it's like to grow up as a mixed girl, thanks 🙂

[@PrincessWhatsername]

@@dinkyboss that's totally valid and understandable. I always thought I was kinda ugly as a kid (not that I WAS ugly, but based on 90s/00s beauty standards) cuz I have black features, type 4 hair, etc, but on a lighter complexion...very "high contrast" if you will, combined with a stick straight scrawny-skinny body type, not curvy like the other black girls whom I thought were prettier than me (but I also didn't feel conventionally "white girl" pretty either), and it wasn't honestly til I was in my late 20s that I genuinely felt "pretty" and like I had grown into myself. But I think some of it depends where you grow up, family dynamics, etc. I'm fully aware of the stereotypes that surround how mixed girls act based on societal perceptions and colorism (and there's always a little bit of truth behind many stereotypes...to be fair, I definitely knew some stuck up mixed girls in school...I suppose being mixed myself I just didn't see them any differently that stuck up white, black, or Hispanic girls 🤷🏽‍♀️). My struggle I'd say was that I was NOT that stereotype, but was often treated certain ways because people just assumed that's how I was, when I was literally just a shy kid who desperately wanted friends who didn't treat me one way or another based on things like race and features 🤷🏽‍♀️ (because my extended family is very multicultural...black, white, Asian, Hispanic, we got it all lol so that was a stark contrast to how people perceive and act upon the dynamics of race outside of tha diverse family bubble I grew up in).

[@ratsforcandy]

Love this quick casual format. would love to see more like this in between the long form work you do 🔥

[@BrownLoafah]

My related experience to the "You're a man. You're so supposed to be able to take it" video came around when I was 12 years old from my mom. I can't remember exactly what happened with the situation happen 14 years ago, but I distinctly remember arguing with my mom and sister. My Ma then quoted the bible saying, "It's better to live in an attic that endure a nagging wife". For a long time hearing that made me feel like I should always be silent and any form of standing up for myself would be me nagging at whoever did me wrong. To be frank, I never really saw it as emasculation, but it felt like people saw me to be much more valuable being obedient and silent rather than having any sense of skepticism.

[@BigHenFor]

I think I understand where you're coming from, because you have to choose your battles. People tend to hear what they want, or expect to hear, and won't clarify anything by asking questions. The emotions take over, and you can progress away from an argument to a discussion where you are really listened to, you can freely speak your mind, and listen to them.

[@imanigordon6803]

Remember when I had my first experience with a girl I was talking to and going out on dates with and she had problems at work consistently and would talk about committing violent acts upon the managers. I felt uncomfortable so I told her that although I understand her pain it gave me negative vibes and I would want to avoid those ways of talking. She told me I was acting like a girl and it was unattractive… first experience of the weight of patriarchy being placed on me directly by a woman I wanted to date.

[@PaintedHoundie]

my mom used to say a lot of stuff like that to me. it always confused that people talk like "youre acting like a woman" especially when its a woman saying it. because did you just insult yourself to make a value judgement about me? she would say things like "what kind of man argues with a woman". she had very low expectations for me and anytime i wasnt doing beat for beat what she wanted me to do, she'd talk to me like i was the worst thing that ever happened to her.

[@BrownLoafah]

@@PaintedHoundie And retrospectively, that's what really baffles me. Both sides end up perpetuating a demonization of femininity even when the argument has nothing to do with gender contextually. Moreover standing up for yourself isn't even a gendered concept, it just what people do.

[@BrownLoafah]

@@imanigordon6803 I experienced something very similar during the ninth grade with a girl I liked. The ever lingering need for you to indulge in violence for a woman you like. When you don't there's then a response of, "why didn't you do anything". It's still a perpetuation of a patriarchal role.

[@Boumhaar]

Every video i learn something new and every video i come out thinking i will be able to do my job a little better because of you thx. On biracial stuff a story from school : Me and two child arguing about who's more black and who's less black and who's better for the color. Our teacher got out of the room and looked at us for a few second and then said "Y'all are so dumb , you think it matter for someone racist ? To them all of you are black , you better support each other." That shut that shit up in my mind forever. And going around in europe i realized only people that aren't racist care about the shade i have , racist just see me black end of the story.

[@nouram4299]

as a mixed (the catergory we use in the uk) person living int the UK your perspective is very interesting to me I remember some ppl saying over here Obama is the the first mixed president of the US and you've verbalised why I thought that was wrong but couldn't say (applying our catergories to a completely different context).

[@nouram4299]

for context here people think I'm Brazilian, Ethiopian or North African (as they are big cultural groups here who are lightskined) whereas I can't say for certain what that would be in the US but I think I'd be perceived there as African American.

[@cryptbeast3222]

@@nouram4299 You'd probably be perceived as Latino.

[@Kandhaqprotector]

Yup what is considered black in America is ludicrous

[@Ksgr867]

Biracial is half black when u have one black parent. What's with the mental gymnastics? The experiences are even different , especially if ur a black woman. I know Cynthia g is no one's favorite but watch her fox soul interview on if biracial women are black and that should answer ur question

[@misterkgb1]

💯 people make this biracial topic complicated and it's really simple. Black parent+white parent = biracial child.

[@GreenBanana675]

Black women that have lived in this country for decades/families for generations are mixed race but I see society in USA is too mentally ill to understand.

[@Sandrinarhonda]

@@misterkgb1PERIODDD

[@Sandrinarhonda]

Exactly sis

[@domenickbrown451]

@@misterkgb1so Malcom x,Rosa parks,president Obama aren’t black then.

[@BlueNoteGaming_]

Have a great holiday FD! You’re one of the best discoveries I made this year and I was feigning for your content. Can’t wait to see what you’re cooking up next.

[@lauriebertramroberts8990]

Thank you for this discourse. Being light skin and Black is a difference. There are plenty of differences in our Black experiences. Our experiences being different doesn't mean they are distinctively non-Black. That said. My empathy and solidarity stays with our darker skin fam who are consistently harmed by colorism. It is important for those of us who benefit from colorism to hold space and frankly give grace when needed as we would want ourselves.

[@esthera3624]

I'd just like to remind some confused people that " Lighskin" is a description of the tone of your skin. Its not a race or ethnicity. You can be fully black ( two black parents ) or biracial and be lightskin. Not all fully black people have darkskin as we come in all kinds of shades and not all Biracial people have lightskin.

[@cryptbeast3222]

Thank you. I wish this didn't need to be said.

[@Sandrinarhonda]

Amen

[@dr.shlomosands1096]

Light skinned was for light skinned blacks not biracials!!! There is z DIFFERENCE between light skinned black and biracial

[@IyaPatsyOriginalEgunlady]

Wow. When you said “ pretty for a dark skinned girl “, I actually shuddered. It still stings. Damn

[@Deondre_Clark]

I've got 45 years of biracial experience. At no point in that 45 years have I been treated as anything other than black. Colorism obviously has been at play and I recognize the privileges lighter skin grants but I've been pulled over for driving while black enough to know how the power structure sees me. Even if I did not want to be black that's not a choice I would be able to make.

[@bunnywavyxx9524]

that doesn't matter

[@iateyursandwiches]

@bunnywavy xx it literally does. If they look black, they're black. If they look white, theyre white. If they look asian, theyre Asian. End of story. That is the point of recognizing race in the first place. Not because of pride, but because your unchangable physical features can and often does dictate how you will be treated. That's why when people say I'm color blind it's not only a lie, but offensive.

[@Ksgr867]

@@iateyursandwiches according to who? Why are y'all allowing your experiences to define u? U may experience what bp experience based on your ability to pass black we literally do not have the same experiences. And most of your experiences are based on stereotypes and superficial stuff such as phenotypes and how you're treated by whites and the police. Black ppl don't have that ability so the experiences are different and that's olay

[@calidawg111]

thats why segregation is better

[@hammerandthewrench7924]

@@bunnywavyxx9524it does tho. Stay mad

[@ThexDynastxQueen]

Love how FD fully leans into being the uncle you actually wanna see during the holidays 😊

[@alexreid1173]

I have a friend that’s biracial with a black mom and white dad. He is absolutely not white passing since his mom is dark skinned, but so many other black people don’t consider him black still. He ended up joining more vague “multicultural” communities because he was treated so poorly by both black and white people. The whole thing is ridiculous

[@HillLuvJump999]

As a fellow black mom with white dad kid, the struggle to relate to either communities is so real.

[@BabyGirlTiny]

But he’s not black. His dad is white so that means he’s not black. It sucks that he’s treated badly but he shouldn’t be treated like he’s black by black people when he’s not black

[@KateCat420]

@@BabyGirlTiny This is such bullsh*t. He faces the same discrimination as black people, and hypocrites like you make it hard for anyone to accept him. Get over yourself and stop going out of your way to be hateful.

[@JLDReactions]

@horgshulk7345 He's mixed.

[@bunnywavyxx9524]

he is not black or white and that is what biracials grapple with the most: the truth of their literal identities. why would he fit in with either one? no one really expects whites to accompany and accept mixed people. Black americans have had their own culture for 100 years they have a sense of community and homogeneity too.

[@saami9606]

In the UK, we do t say colored or mullato. We just say mixed race and we know that being mixed is more than just white and black. It's a whole mix bag of other types lol

[@danic2514]

I really appreciate you talking about the mixed race experience. I’m not black but I myself am mixed race (Latines we may call that more mestizo but even that word can be controversial for many good reasons). I would consider myself more of that and like to acknowledge that there’s likely indigenous roots within my family that have been buried by colonialism. I pass as white next to Mexicans often but quickly become othered near white people. I’ve experienced stuff like being tipped lower, accused of stealing, and other incidents as opposed to my fully white coworkers (this is just one of the most blatant examples recently). And I think for most of us we just want our experiences to not be ignored, but we also don’t want to ignore privilege. I know I probably have some things I won’t experience that my dark skin brother does. And I think that’s where some issues in this conversation with “monoracial” people are. I don’t want to invalidate them and sometimes they invalidate us. But I totally understand why they feel the way they do. Our experiences just can’t really be lumped together all as one but in some ways it’s probably different with blackness.

[@SevenDeadlyTwins]

I'm biracial and where I grew up the black population is like

[@iateyursandwiches]

I mean, why does it hurt so much tho? Do you not have friends regardless? No matter what race you are seen as, you can have friends of any race, no?

[@deirexx]

Thanks for being honest and showing your frustration with the TikTok-Biracial-takes. I'm myself Afro-Caribbean/Nordic and what I always tell people is that "I'm the race that society perceives me as" similar to your statement about what police believe you are. Which funnily enough in my case is neither of my "actual ethnicities", but I suspect this would be different depending on which country I lived in.

[@roxywyndham]

We just different views on this and it’s ok. Biracial is biracial and even if society see you as “one” way it’s not a reason to go along with you, Black ppl should know that. They have their own unique identity and that’s perfectly ok. It’s ok to be biracial, you fit in your own group, in Black groups if you want and white (or what ever race) group if you choose. You are Black as much as you are white and that’s ok.

[@fredleeland2464]

Vin Diesel made a short film in the 90s about being mixed where he goes to auditions for 4 different races

[@choleymoley]

Thank you for saying something about the biracial argument. A lot of the women I follow have spewed this rhetoric, I’ve put my feelings aside because I have first hand experience with the issues BUT this has made me feel like an ally to Black women instead of a Black woman myself. I’m denying my own personal experiences! You’re right when you say people just wanna do what’s been done to them. The media has always perpetuated a monolithic image of Black people, and Black women are doing the same to mixed women. They speak about biracial women as if we’re all high yellow and unambiguous which is ignorant. Any push back on the rhetoric is countered with their idea that it’s not their responsibility to learn or care. I get that when it comes to who has the upper hand in privilege BUT I didn’t think in my 30s I’d still be struggling with the community’s acceptance. Sorry for the long comment. I just really appreciate it.

[@e.sawyer8761]

Can I ask if you also call yourself white or whatever other race you’re mixed with as well?

[@chidiogoikeh4550]

Why don’t biracial (black and white at least) ever struggle for the acceptance of their white side?? Interesting 👀💀

[@chidiogoikeh4550]

@@e.sawyer8761 they’ll never answer this question lol

[@kaiw8442]

@@e.sawyer8761 i’ll answer. i’ll never be considered white or black racially. we’re both genetically but neither racially at the same time. i look very clearly biracial black and white also. which is not the case for all biracial people, hence why they may identify with the monoracial people because they LOOK like them (because race is a construct but very very real) i just know white people & racist society treats me better because of my proximity to whiteness but white folks won’t treat me as their own as monoracial black people have. i am black before i am white as far as the racism i experience (and uniquely biracial black and white racism). however, i call myself biracial black and white. just my take on white supremacy and how it relates to me 😊

[@pizzadogma]

@@chidiogoikeh4550 you are investing too much energy on this sis

[@myfanwyjohnston973]

It’s already on Nebula 🎉🎉🎉 made my night

[@LiberianHokage]

The other weird mixed discourse on tiktok is Black mom vs Black dad

[@TW-hx2yx]

I never understood the biracial isn't black discourse. As a young biracial woman who's not anything close to white passing and growing up in a predominately white area my entire life I've only ever been perceived by the peers and people around me as black? My experience is exclusively that of someone who's seen by society as black. I don't deny light-skin privilege is a thing, but I didn't grow up or live life as being seen as biracial or racially ambiguous. I'm thankful you touched on this subject because while we all have our own unique experiences, I don't like when people try to erase my blackness when that's how the world sees me. *Edit; I just want to reiterate that know I am genetically two races, I know that I am biracial. My point is that even though I am biracial, I have still lived a black experience in a white surpremacist America (which is exactly what f.d. was talking about in his video.) I'm not denying colorism or light skin privilege, which is what a lot of people seem to further be elaborating on. I'm simply stating that regardless of my genetic coding, the white world still sees me as just black. It's fine if people have a differing opinion on this topic, I'm simply sharing mine.

[@vlonefilmzzz3880]

They're not many biracial people who can pass for black neither

[@BabyGirlTiny]

Okay, then what about the other non black part of you? Are you saying that that other part of you is black as well? Because if you’re biracial, you are biracial for a reason. You can identify as black but biracial is not black. You don’t have two black parents and thus you are not black. You can’t be

[@MegaSlimgoody1]

I help you understand. You basically stating that anyone can make a black child. Let's say your mom is white. And you say, you are black. Then that means a white woman can create a black child. Only two black people can make a black child. Only two Asian people can make a Asian child, etc.

[@jocelyncooper1738]

@@vlonefilmzzz3880 you’d be surprised

[@livingfinance]

Is saying that a mixed race person isn’t black dating that they have no black lineage. Or simply saying that they aren’t solely black?

[@amaravazquez8591]

"I don't know if this is serious". That's the thing with social media, especially Tik Tok. It can go either way and that's terrifying.

[@McSwift0421]

"Her videos have this surrealist tone to them... but she does not break character." If she's serious this is a great read.

[@marcello46]

I’m mixed and grew up in both an Afro Latino and Afro Caribbean household and for some reason it breaks people’s brains. They can’t understand that I can be both in one. Even family members I grew up with. It doesn’t help that my skin color is exactly on the line between white and black because of my grandfather was white. So growing up I was always treated like a political statement by those around me. People told me I had to act basically like Huey Freeman to be accepted. When I was in elementary and middle school I wanted to be accepted but now I just let people feel how they feel

[@deadfr0g]

This thumbnail is an absolute banger.

[@llsilvertail561]

Food for thought about that whole weaponizing the patriarchy against men: women can be misogynists too, even if it doesn't look like they're parroting the more well known points. (or, more broadly, the patriarchy manifests differently in more progressive circles when compared to more conservative ones)

[@Indiegirl007]

Chiiile, this brown skinned black woman with 4B hair found out that I was 38% white. Floored. Absolutely floored. Somebody been lying.

[@-insight-]

It’s important to make the distinction between mixed race and black because we aren’t perceived the same within society and the issues we face collectively are different.

[@FlyingFistOfJuda]

This

[@niathomas184]

Exactlyyyy like it’s not rocket science

[@wordsbymaribeja1470]

Do you have any concept of how you see yourself? Because you teach others how they treat you, just like black americans have co-opted biraciality and taught everyone that biracials are black. This is new in US history, before the civil rights movement, biracials would not have tolerated being classified with blacks.

[@chadtheafricanbullfrog418]

absolutely but at the same time you can’t fully put all mixed race people into one category. being mixed race is a varying experience depending on a lot of factors like if they’re white passing or not. bc of that to classify all mixed race people as the same is doing the same mistake as not making a distinction between black and mixed race. imo it’s fine to say that mixed race ppl are different but depending on the person their life experience can have similarities to a black persons and to outright exclude them from being black bc they’re mixed is erasing ppls experiences

[@FlyingFistOfJuda]

@@chadtheafricanbullfrog418 Damn you gave me some new perspective. You make a very good point.

[@Thaliathetree]

This was such an interesting video. I really enjoyed these quick takes. My mom worked as a child welfare lawyer for 28 years. She spent her time training other attorneys, judges, and social workers on how to help children in court, ethics around child welfare law, and case studies. Men are often considered unfit as parents from a lot of those case studies, and so many in the field would push for the mother to take care of the child. Something that my mom and her coworkers tried to push for was always to actually talk to the children and hear from them. Too many cases read that the child was scared of their mother or saw their mother doing har drugs or other unsafe behaviors while the father begged to get the child out and was never granted the chance. I also was a little white girl with married parents at an elementary school where both of those we uncommon. I’d have playdates with friends who lived in “unconventional” living situations like with aunts/uncles or grandparents and saw the struggles my friends faced. The space is trying to improve, there are people working towards better proceedings, but the whole system is fraught with corruption.

[@MidnightEkaki]

Im not black so I don't have a say on how the black community experiences gender, however I'm very grateful to hear you talk about how patriarchy affects everyone. I find as a trans man its very frustrating existing in leftist spaces that are full of feminists who view patriarchy and gender oppression in such a black and white 'men bad women good'. There's many issues with that attitude in general, some of which you went into in the video. But also to add my own experience, I have experienced many of the things that cis women do yet I am a man, and when I try to argue this point I'm usually given the 'you don't count' rebuttal (because Im trans). Some 'leftists' would rather be transphobic than give up the idea that men are inherently bad for being men, which pushes the idea that patriarchy and toxic masculinity is not socially constructed and cannot be changed.

[@Ki-gz8ve]

When trans ppl don't fit into their framework of moralized gender, they erase us from the conversation or berate us. This is true of cis people of most (if not all) communities. On the topic of transphobia, every community in the west (including my ppl, black ppl) experiences/teaches gender the same way as the average community in the West (more or less), which is unfortunately in a very transphobic way. Hence transphobic erasure/violence among several communities in the West and among colonized lands around the globe. I would say that it's surprising that cis leftists treat us (trans ppl) the way they do (especially toward trans black ppl), but it's unfortunately not a surprise to me atp :(

[@hawktalon7890]

Seconding this.

[@wyomingfrenchfry1733]

Thirdening this. It’s so frustrating being trans masc and being excluded from feminist discussions even though even now (because I don’t exactly pass) I still do and have experienced the same bullshit cis women have to put up

[@whiro8945]

I always get... uneasy when women around me are on the hate men train when they know I want to transition into a (cis looking) one. Feels off.

[@HipsterLumberjack]

I never thought about this part of your experiences. I feel like that could be a blind spot of these narratives. As a cis man, I have decades of experience interacting with gender conversations from a man's perspective. I couldn't imagine being locked out of the interactions and support systems you've grown accustomed to. That said, I hope you all can create the environments that help you feel comfortable in your identity

[@NamelessInternaut]

Holy shit, I'm excited for this one.

[@nikotatara4185]

loved the biracial conversation! im not black, im biracial japanese and white, and the kind of conversations ppl have dragged me into in my life is crazy... i watched a vid a few years ago where a biracial black woman (i cant find the video now, dont remember her name either) said that mixed race doesn't exist, at least in the case of having a white parent, because with whiteness being an exclusive concept, you are either white or not white. that kind of resonated with me, because my japanese parent used to get upset when i called myself japanese instead of mixed, because im "white too," even though my experience has never been that of a white person. the only way i have experienced the world is as an asian person (with some of the bonus issues that other biracial people face). like i dont pass as white at all, tho im pretty lightskinned (there are darker skinned japanese ppl too, which a lot of yt people dont realize. my brother has been mistaken as mexican many many times.) so i really liked ur conversation around being either black or not black. it adds a lot to that vid i saw years ago. idk! always learning and everything has more nuance than u think!

[@Darkthestral1]

Professor Odi is so right As an anicdote one of the reasons my parents got married is that my mom didn't freak out that my dad did things like cook and clean and apprichiated that he did those things. He dated a lot of women (my parents are boomers for age reference) that would be offended that he cooked for them. The way he talks about it it really sounds like they were threatened because my dad didn't "need" a woman because he was fully capable of takeing care of himself. Just little story because that tiktok brought that story up, and I find it interesting considering most women today would love a guy who not only can, but enjoys cooking

[@AntiSoraXVI]

The bit about women feeling like men who cook don’t need them still exists and it occurs on both sides, shockingly enough. Thing is that everyone wants a partner who can and enjoys cooking. I think the conflict occurs because people with old/traditional values need some sort of justification for their place in the relationship. If the stereotypical man can’t provide and do the masculine things then he has no purpose or worth (and vice versa). People are getting out of that mindset more and more (or adopting a mindset that they deserve certain things and other people are worthless if they can’t provide those things)

[@lakibramble]

As a biracial person, this whole discussion has never been a real discussion to me. While I'm very light skinned, most people know I'm mixed or black. That's on all my papers, on everything where someone would ask my race, I'd say Mixed Black. When people say I'm not black, I'm biracial, immediately what comes to mind is. 'Litlearly what the hell is biracial.' Cause at this point I thknk its not even really a thing in America. It's just a way to say "you're two races. But you're not allowed to be either of those two races. You are just two races." It's a weird thing to say, because there are biracial Asian and Hispanic people, and obviously when your biracial black you'll have a wildly different experience than them. I don't think biracial is a bad word or anything, but to pretend like my blackness has no baring on my life is so weird to me. Like people except me to just ignore that part of my identity, Because it doesn't fit their narrow view of what race is. Even though race is an incredibly complex made up thing, that contributes to everyone in some way. I dunno if that made sense because honestly this whole discussion dosent really make sense to me. Like tbh what do I do when I white person calls me the n word now. Do I just throw up my hands like "hey. I'm not black. I'm mixed. Call me a mulatto-" like this is kinda a weird discussion that is really complex but also...not complex at all.

[@feliznavidad6958]

So just call yourself mixed. You dont have the same experiences of full black people either but race isnt about experience, its about phenotype and ancestry. Ancestry wise are your parents mixed or two different races? Yea, then you're mixed. It's not rocket science.

[@lakibramble]

@@feliznavidad6958 (race is about phenotypes and genetics) uhuh. Sure. 100% race. The made up class structure is about genetics and phenotypes. By that logic were litlearly all mixed. It's not rocket science. Also...let's say you are correct. Then I still wouldn't be 'mixed.' Mixed is not a race. It's a term for people with two races. By that logic I am both black and white. Not mixed.

[@lakibramble]

@@feliznavidad6958 low key the dumbest reason I've gotten for not being able to call myself black. You do realize mixed isn't a race bruh... it isn't. Nor is biracial. If that were true, I'd be the same race as black Asians or white Asians cause they're also biracial. Saying I'm biracial gives very little context onto my experience as a person of color, who's experience is heavily informed by their black heritage. If you think I'm 'not black.' Because of a percentage that's fine. But stop trying to pretend it's because of genetics cause that makes no sense. I'm black and white. And mixed is an okay term to call that, but that dosent mean I suddenly become a different race cause one of my parents was white. I'm just two races. It's not that complicated, people just make it complicated by describing arbitrary ways I have to label myself. I'm not saying I have the same experience as someone who has two black parents. Never said I did. But not every black experience has to be the same for them to be valid. I'm perfectly fine with discussing ways that mixed and or light skinned people are given better treatment or are treated differently than other black people. But that dosent mean you can pretend I don't have A black experience, even if that experience is different from others. I totally understand I am different than other black people and that's fine, but it dosent mean I can't identify with the black side of my heritage/ culture more than my white side. Saying I'm mixed is fine, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. But there's also nothing wrong with saying I'm black either, cause I am. These two identies can exist at the same time and yall keep pretending like you don't understand that.

[@feliznavidad6958]

@@lakibramble Of course it's not a race. It's a term for people of multiple races. The irony. you clearly don't even know what race is and have no business talking about it. Study biological/physical anthropology then get back to me.

[@4theluvofshalyssa]

@@lakibramble god thank you for actually speaking sense this comment section is throwing me. im clearly black presenting, both my parents are mixed and my grandparents are mixed. Your telling me that i’m not allowed to say that im black, my only options are to say that im ethiopian, dutch, filipino, creole, or better yet discard all of that and say i’m multiracial which basically says nothing about my unique identity, like bffr im gonna say im black. At the end of the day none of that saved me from people telling my to go back to africa or that i looked like the color of shit or my clearly 4C hair from being called nappy and ugly.

[@elaryn.new.22]

I am so happy for this video. It is tough to listen to the takes that mixed people aren't Black because it makes me feel so alienated from my family and my history. My expectation for myself is to acknowledge colorism because that does give me access to privileges in society. But I do feel sad when people say I can't identify with my Black culture and heritage. Although just like your example I want to hold space for people who express this because I understand the emotional and trauma-driven drivers of these takes.

[@underestimated1171]

Why is it tough for you to hear this while y'all accept the same comment from your other side?

[@chidiogoikeh4550]

Why don’t yous ever come for the half of you that isn’t black? Black Pells are expected to welcome you with open arms but it’s never expected of your white, Asian etc side? It’s so weird.

[@e.sawyer8761]

I don’t think anyone is saying that you can’t identify, we would just appreciate you stating that you’re biracial and not just black.

[@ongakira]

@@underestimated1171the comment said that they want to participate in their black heritage and culture so ofc they wanna be acknowledged as somewhat black😭 there was no mention of racism or denial of black heritage in the comment…. reading comprehension in the ground😭

[@Kaylakaykay1997]

​@@underestimated1171The other side is wrong too. Why do yall think.this is gotcha moment..Let biracial ppl identify themselves

[@nysportsfan2576]

Mixed people are MIXED!

[@misterkgb1]

💯 no matter if people like it or not bm/bw=black child anything other than that is biracial.

[@Cindy99765]

Exactly

[@TubeCritic]

What is considered mixed people? Because in reality majority of “black” people in America/North America have European ancestry mixed in them. So what constitutes being mixed ?

[@GDL364]

@@TubeCritic having parents of different races

[@Cindy99765]

@@TubeCritic Being biracial or something similar.

[@Artymis_Kitty]

The vin diesel thing hit me a little bit cause just like him lots of people have been surprised to find out I'm half black and I grew up mostly with white family members because my bio dad was my black parent and he left when I was born. I don't even know if I have the right or responsibility to engage with my blackness or identify with it. I don't know what it means if I want to or not, is it good or bad if I want to or not is it not my place. I don't have a lot of people in my life to talk to about this because I know lots of white people and when I've brought this up with anyone white in the past it usually devolves into them asking if I can say the N word. I'm scared to bring this up with anyone black mainly cause I don't know anyone on that level and I don't just want to bring up race talk to an unsuspecting black person trying to go about their day lol. The last time I talked about this with anyone was when I was 13 with my best friend at the time who was black and he was genuinely excited to find out about it. When I told him he told me "I knew it!" and immediately accepted me into blackness but that was almost ten years ago and since then I've avoided the conversation with it altogether.

[@LC-sc3en]

Get yourself into a more diverse community or social group and make friends naturally. If you diversify your sorroundings naturally your friends will become more diverse. One of those friends might be black and one day you might feel comfortable speaking with them about it. For now though anyone alive has every right to learn more about and experience any culture. It's a net good for people to do so. Embracing an identity belongs to those with ties to it no matter what. You may never feel fully comfortable with identifying as black and you may just go with mixed. Or you might feel comfortable identifying as black and passing. Neither choice negates the fact you have a black parent. This is immutable and will not change. Go out and learn.

[@lava_submersible2362]

The Christmas music to strange kevin just killed me

[@ToxicMayhem]

Love this video and I'm greatful you be tackling these topics, thank you.

[@ZenElHabibi]

This was great dawg, I really appreciate this. I feel the lens on biracial-ness in terms of discourse is more emphasized on people who are part white and part more so than in comparison to being a mixed as a double minority