Bishop Barron's BRILLIANT Take on GOD In Tragedy

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[@djgrant8761]

“Pain insists upon being attended to. God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our consciences, but shouts in our pains. It is His megaphone to rouse a deaf world.” - C.S. Lewis.

[@richdeerhunter]

outstanding......and spot on

[@drmadrid1]

“Leukemia in a 5 year old.” Interesting statement. Before my son turned 5 he was diagnosed with ALL. I was a lapsed Catholic at the time, for almost 20 years. Son is 7 now and cancer free. Retuned to the Church 5 months ago. Went to confession for the first time in ages. Started receiving communion again 6 weeks ago.

[@johnf1121]

I would thank the doctors and modern medicine for curing your son, not a fictitious figure in man's image up in the sky invented before science, your choice

[@Tony-bv7gz]

My former youth pastor had a little brother who died from leukemia. Youth pastor left the church after that. Felt unfair that God let his brother die.

[@johnf1121]

if my 5 yo had cancer, I'd be desperate too, too bad you didn't mention the hospital and doctors that actually saved him, nice try

[@johnnycool106]

Only God can raise the dead

[@perlaaguilar4196]

Welcome home ❤

[@byoung5520]

I believe God lets bad things happen because everything is a learning experience good and bad. We see the bad right now in present time, but God knows the future, we do not . People die everyday, tragedies, natural causes etc……some things happen like bishop said we would never understand but there is a reason for everything, no coincidences. I just keep praying and stay close to Jesus as much as I can. Things always work out in the end.

[@TKinfinity01]

He also lets these things happen because of free will. We would not have free will if he were to directly control events.

[@butterflyfreespirit58]

agreed..it's all based on FAITH..everything happens for a reason in which we aren't meant to know why until we die, then all our ????? we ever had will be understanding. trust in GOD, have faith!!!!

[@triciagarcia7617]

In the midst of suffering, it is extremely difficult to trust God specially if innocent people fall victim. I guess this is why God’s mercy is infinite… it allows for our humanity and all its weaknesses. We only need to be contrite and ask God for His graces to help us trust Him. Divine Mercy, pray for us.

[@Kristen10-22]

I believe God is here this coming from a cancer survivor. I never asked “why me” at 36yo “Why not me?” I’m not special

[@MARISOLFiGUEROA-s7m]

GOD BLESS YOU❤

[@Kristen10-22]

@ God Bless you as well 🙏🏻 You are too kind

[@josephdrbohlav5705]

Almost the entire book of Job is a dialogue amongst mortals on "Why, God???". I am at peace with the answer that is provided in Chapter 38 of Job...

[@claudehalle3147]

St.Augustin declared that God in His permissive will would not allow evil if He knew that there would not be any good that would come out of it"

[@susanpeck530]

Thank you. Valuable

[@wendellmacgillivary3138]

This Bishop tackles the tough questions and does manage to explain them. He’s remarkable…

[@jurajtrenkler]

He said he don’t know. Neither do we. But that is no explanation. Onky bla, bla, bla.

[@wendellmacgillivary3138]

He’s being honest; but he did go on to elaborate; perhaps you didn’t listen to the full clip;

[@Debra-ze1kj]

Listening to u over 25 year's Bishop u are BLESSED with God's Wisdom, Debra Logan in Waterbury CT

[@jocelyncalibjo8464]

GOD BLESS YOU BISHOP BARRON.

[@grantrabo5410]

Thank you Bishop Barron for your time n God bless you n keep you good health 🙏

[@grantrabo5410]

God always with us n if you pray every day you feel God n tell God your problems. Pls pray Rosary everyday n evil spirits stay away 🙏💪🏾❤️

[@lordperris23xsykes21]

It’s not about how you die and when you die but you have to be on ready for that day, Jesus is the only way

[@TKinfinity01]

People blame God in these situations, however people forget about free will. We have free will to make our own individual decisions and it was someone’s free will to be negligent and stupid, causing the deaths of many people. God may still play a part though, as after those souls pass on, God will be there for them to provide comfort and mercy. Just because we don’t see God, doesn’t mean he isn’t doing everything he can for us.

[@maruchagajowy]

Free Will. Was this the Thing which led to Holocaust? Did God provide their souls with Comfort and Mercy? It must have been quite a Job!

[@TKinfinity01]

@maruchagajowy Yes, free will lead to all terrible atrocities in history. With the help of the Devil and his influence. Regardless, God will comfort all who suffered in the afterlife.

[@ValentinaKajcinovska]

​@@TKinfinity01Right

[@WilliamBong4567]

Thank you for this wonderful sermon. Our adored Lord and saviour Jesus Christ spoke in parables. Every blessing beloved of God.

[@pinkpaprika8410]

Jesus underwent his Passion and death to be with us even in the midst of our suffering. We’re not forsaken even in our worst moments.

[@ritobonito]

Lately in my life, I have been looking in Jewish writings and ideas to understand Catholic ideas. Rabbi Manis Friedman approaches this topic from a more neutral point of view. He talks about the laws of Moses, such as the dietary law of not eating pork. In contrast, to that command which is very puzzling, as pork is tasty and nutritious. There are other commands which we might find more rational to our thinking, like the command against committing murder. He points out simply that the observant Jew should accept all the commands that God has given, whether they make sense to us or not -- because they are given by God. He has other youtube video on this delicate topic of accepting tragedy from the same point of view of accepting the will of God. Scripture tells us that even the hairs of our head are numbered, even the number of days we will have in our life. These things are sad, but somehow they are ordained by God and we should accept them. There is even the idea that such events can draw us closer to God and to be committed to His will. As Job says, we accept the good from the Lord shall we not also accept the bad? The Lord gives and the Lord takes away. Blessed be the name of the Lord.

[@theclapaolini4322]

Be patiemt we are in for good results.

[@WilliamBong4567]

Proverbs 8:32-36 King James Version. 'Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways. Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not. Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors. For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the Lord. But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.' Glory to Almighty God.

[@RichardSchmidt-v6g]

In case anyone has forgotten all the sorrows suffering and pain if this world is caused by our own sin or that of our ancestors. The God has taken it and turned it to our good

[@nehmar448]

When a man, in all his misery, cries out: "There is no God and all people are bad!', go, stand next to him and say: ' But I am here.'

[@rukidding-y2c]

The peace of God passes ALL UNDERSTANDING. How often do we hear this? Do we truly "get" it? NO!

[@badatpseudoscience]

The problem with this argument is that the problem of evil is not dependent on _what god's reason is_ to work. If I make the statement that "god allows evil because of X". Whatever X is, it will impose a restriction on gods capabilities. That's the entire purpose of X in this statement. If god is restricted in any way, then God can't be tri-omni.

[@kevinwhelan9607]

Typically excellent - thanks for posting; keep up the good work. The comments are also very perceptive❤❤❤

[@tjseaney_]

Thanks, will do!

[@fayefern9535]

That makes so much sense but, it still doesn't take away the pain and suffering. Jesus I trust in you.

[@margaretferrara1008]

My 3 step program; Jesus Jesus Jesus... Call out to the God who loves you....prov. 3:5-6....❤

[@Babu-hu7to]

More than 20 years ago, when I as a chairman of Parents Teachers Association, I don't quite know why I talked about the necessity of God creating bacteria. I elaborate that without bacteria, our world would be full of unrotten animals including human dead bodies resulting from wars. Look like my addressed got nothing to do with our function that day,but it's one the few speeches I remember till this day. Just sharing my thoughts and memories of past years. Thank you.

[@heidi2842]

I totally agree and support the Bishop's explanation: we cannot ever fully understand what is God doing. And further on if God would be "obligated" to stop human errors, He would be obligated to stop every error, every sin, etc- which means-End of the world.

[@m.gattus-reinhart845]

God can do whatever God wants to do. God isn't obligated or defined by any set standards.

[@thomaslewis203]

Bishop Barron - ''the puzzle that is, the existence of God' - What puzzle - it is simplest truth. Amen.

[@ingridlopez7147]

Our suffering is a grace given by God to get closer to Him

[@johnf1121]

craziness!! just craziness!!

[@starfireooo4844]

This is simply bullshit and if you really believe this, you have a screw lose...

[@charlesozoene7654]

Suffering is a condition that God ALLOWS, while providing the sufficient grace. Meanwhile, the mystery of suffering bears witness to man's fallen nature! Even Christ experienced (Psalm 22, 2). Suffering never has the last word, but the grace!

[@JoeMoran-t8h]

"God can bring good even out of tragedies." Jesus was once asked why a certain man had been born blind? They asked if it wasn't because he -- or his parents -- had done something evil. Jesus' answer is at first hearing, strange: "He was born this way so that GOD's GLORY MIGHT BE MANIFEST." (WHAT???) Jesus then heals the blind man. One salient piece of Jesus' answer is that God is glorified when we respond to suffering, illness, tragedy with compassion for those affected. What we do to help, to heal, to comfort, and soothe others' pain in the face of their "blindness," illness, grief over the loss of loved ones, is what redeems and brings grace to the situation. And where grace is, God is.

[@melissat9120]

Thank you for sharing your very insightful comment!

[@f3healthcoaching]

We also have to remember that God sees beyond our human world. We see through the lends of tragedy when life on earth is taken away, especially when younger people die before their time. None of us are immune to this but as a Catholic, I believe that God has a higher purpose for our souls, and that there is beauty on the other side that we can’t even fathom from our earthly lens. We have to earn that beauty, but it’s there for us if we act according to his will. With that said, I will pray for the victims that their souls are experiencing this place of beauty and I will pray for their families mourning their loss that they may eventually find solace and peace within their hearts 🙏🏻❤

[@robertahagen6455]

Romans 11.33-36 ! How wonderful a perspective!

[@harrydeanbrown6166]

God's ways are far above our minds' ability to comprehend. Actually not a big surprise....

[@anitadenton1468]

Very interesting and I often think of this, such tragedies, and yes some of them could have been avoided!! This saddens me. We now have a crisis, where is God? Not sure, is he allowing people to destroy our very existence. Only time will tell 🙏🏻

[@GabrielDelorino]

❤ thank you 💕 very much Bishop

[@Debra-ze1kj]

Free WILL, Debra Logan in Waterbury CT

[@ancil57]

How is asking for the evidence one relies on to assert a fact "attacking the faith?" How a loving God could permit human suffering is a legitimate question. The explanation that suffering is spiritually good for us is hardly satisfactory. Should I pray for disease for my own spiritual benefit? Jesus's answer was that human suffering exists so that God's glory would be revealed in showing compassion for the sufferer, but at no time did he offer that God permits suffering. A more honest answer to the doubter's question is that we cannot explain why a loving God does not intervene to prevent human suffering or that perhaps God's power is limited (as acknowledged in Old Testament passages ignored by those like Bishop Barron) and although God can help ease the pain of human suffering, God is powerless to prevent it.

[@danielwelch6696]

Bishop Barron. Please your commentary on the US government suspending aid to address health issues like malaria, TB, and AIDS to poorer countries. And the widespread view that Catholics who voted strongly for the current administration are happy and supportive of this stance. As well as the heavy handed approach to immigrants.

[@Sapien12344]

No, not heretics. Just good old atheists.

[@ChristopherJohnson-km6bz]

Who could not enjoy listening to Bishop Barron? Although I am unsure of some views, he helps me "think, ground and balance" many difficult issues. God our Father cast Satan and his miserable minions onto this earth as their punishment. St. Paul himself indicated that this realm of existence we humans are travailing is Satan's territory hence, "Prince and power of the air." In my personal view, this earth experience is perpetual torment, pain, heartache, loss, and unfulfillment! This SERVES as our reminder that this defiled existence is NOT OUR ETERNAL HOME! Where was our Lord Jesus tempted? On this earth as it is a sinful and polluted place. Thank Our Lord Jesus Christ for laying the foundation to free us from this "Present evil darkness." Satan and his dark spirits human and inhuman are expending monumental resources to trick, fool, confuse and derail us from SPIRITUALLY DISCERNING the enemies of God. Political pop culture sentiments, church leaders and anyone who directs YOUR ATTENTION and HEART away from the love of Jesus Christ and Holy Mass are to be scrutinized.

[@geletrekking]

I respect to Bishop Barron's, we are hundred percent agree with him as always. My personal thoughts planes are not measurement by gods it is my basic understanding. I am Sorry for this sorrow sharing by everyone around the world

[@lattem2141]

Comparing a child’s view of parenting to God allowing disasters to KILL people is not comparable.

[@margaretferrara1008]

Isaiah 57:1-2. ....He takes the righteous from evil and lets them rest on his couch...

[@nehmar448]

Dear bishop, those are all empty words. Even Jesus did not understand, when he cried out: my God, why have you forsaken me?

[@WilliamBong4567]

I recently had a Christian brother say, "My God wouldn't do that." and a Minister utter, "God's crazy plan for the world." It's as if they somehow consider God stopped being in this world after the Old Testament of His Word the Holy Bible. He is the God of the living not the God of the dead. The Kingdom of God is in our midst. Omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent. We all know His Holy Words. 'I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.' Isaiah 37:26 KJV. 'Hast thou not heard long ago, how I have done it; and of ancient times, that I have formed it? now have I brought it to pass, that thou shouldest be to lay waste defenced cities into ruinous heaps.' Every blessing beloved of God.

[@fernandolandro4807]

Excelent! Regards from Argentina 🇦🇷

[@lukaskoblovsky1503]

1000 years on earth is one day in heaven (2 Peter 3:8). Heavenly perspective of human life is different.

[@patrickmccabe3241]

THANK YOU.

[@Debra-ze1kj]

Sin Original Sin , Debra Logan in Waterbury CT 🙏

[@porkc78nj19]

why trump managed to speak bad of the dead?

[@TJ1920]

sometimes There are no answers gods ways are confounding to Trusting in God there is no other way we can not lean on our own intelligence for we are broken

[@idakate7]

“Remains” seems disrespectful because these are human beings not just “remains”

[@oceanscaper]

Doesn’t help. Why do innocent animals get punished worse than most humans do during life. They live a life of being hunted by other animals and eaten and they had nothing to do with the sin of the first couple. Nothing…zero culpability. I think we have to trust God who daily has humans rescuing starving animals which we see on you tube always. But what goes on….in this life….in terms of tragedy…we have to block out because it is disgusting…period. Trust God yes….yes…yes. But aspects of reality are simply tragic….animals hunting innocent animals….to stay alive. None were connected to the first human couple.

[@pierre1119able]

God is defined by placing reason before belief.

[@thomaslewis203]

Bishop Barron - 'God is not something in the world' - Wrong - God is every properly reserved Host in every tabernacle.

[@jdav3]

Thanks for sharing this. Good stuff.

[@RyeGableBooks]

God allowed in his permissive will something he hated in my life to accomplish something he loved in His perfect will.

[@gugatena4990]

Gracias! Estas haciendo un trabajo excelente ! Gracias! Mucha fuerza!

[@Kristen10-22]

I would also argue who am I to ask? I have faith

[@WilliamBong4567]

helene - Ezekiel 13:10-16. (The Father hears the fervent prayers of all His children) golden globes - Malachi 1:6. All glory and praise to Almighty God.

[@NeldaArchuleta]

Trump has closed USA-Aid for the poor all over the country, please look into this matter. Speak for the poor,may mother Theresa pray for us.

[@williamtell3203]

It's corrupt. That's why he's shut it down. Do some research and you will find out.

[@lawrencebaronner9916]

@@williamtell3203 and it doesn’t help the citizens of this country.

[@m.gattus-reinhart845]

Praying to Mother Theresa for what? Corruption

[@Joseph-es6mu]

​@@williamtell3203 Lord. Forgive these hypocrites of hatred

[@pg8010]

God won't protect you from tragedy. live each day to your fullest and enjoy your life.

[@SusanFrank-jz3uc]

This is why when some people think church is for the old and you never know when tragedy happens. And I firmly believe none of know when our death date is. Remember the poor who couldn't afford to fly. They were people working in a restaurant when the plane crashed and killed them. Rip 🙏 Sorry your life got cut off soon.

[@ktwarshunggeorgeanal4691]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@catherinekelly532]

Blessings Poor people!

[@mapinoita279]

Great video!

[@DouglasLett-z7w]

The way I see it I agree with the late Rabbi Harold Kushner we get into trouble so to speak when we subscribe to the belief in a God that is all powerful. Kushner believed God is limited in effecting the affairs of man. An example my brother was a fireman he seen children burned up in fires. If I believed God watched a child burn up and was able to stop it and didn't I would walk out of the church and never look back ! The best book on suffering is When Bad Things Happen To Good People by Rabbi Harold Kushner.

[@dmwilkey45]

God cannot be limited as per His nature. God is love. I can imagine He swoops up that child’s soul and takes it into Himself.

[@m.gattus-reinhart845]

​@@dmwilkey45God is love? Have you read the Bible?

[@martintalbot875]

Wild..!!

[@xuxito]

The 2 airplane tragedies weren’t accidental at all but a warning of what’s in store for us. The Reagan crash had 67 people who died and may they rest forever in Gods arms. 6+7=13 Revelation 13:6-7 describes the antichrist and his mission against the Church. The Philadelphia crash had 6 people on board who died and 1 in a nearby car. May they also forever rest in God’s arms. Revelation 3:7 describes the Church of Philadelphia and her coming persecution. But the fact that it’s chapter 3 and 6 people on board and 1 in a car makes 7 we see how God is saying that the final battle between good and evil is about to commence. 3-6 & 3-7.

[@WilliamBong4567]

Most interesting. The birth pangs are growing apace. Only the Father knows the hour, PTL. I am aware of other or additional 'possibilities' with this however I would not speak of these merely from my fleshly mind. He will not allow flesh to glory in the sight of God. helene - Ezekiel 13:10-16. (The Father hears the fervent prayers of all His children). golden globes - Malachi 1:6. All glory and praise to Almighty God. Every blessing beloved of God.

[@NinaMarieGutierrez]

God giveth and God taketh. He does what pleases him. God is all knowing and death does not exist in his realm. God also takes away his favorites to evade future pain. We should be happy that, that person is with God and not on earth with the Devil. I feel your pain; I have lost someone close and recently someone who was murdered. She was someone mother, someone's daughter and she will be painfully missed.

[@angelacornell8660]

This is such a comfort, as my son and daughter in law plan to ‘transition my grandson to a girl’ 😢

[@maruchagajowy]

Bishop: "We cannot fathom out what/who God is". But Christianity gladly *describes* God as Almighty, All-knowing, Borderlessly-Loving, etc. Adding, in the same breath: " *But, God is also a Person. (suddenly we know?) " *And Person is always Mysterious* . Aka: God is (mysterious)? Here, bishops diverts towards married couples, kids, more diversions... No explanation for human suffering (we inherently cannot understand, WHY God allows it?) The Bottom line: suffering is allowed, because we don't know WHY. In Bishop's Opinion. Poor Priest...

[@boris8787]

We live in a DARK world, but Jesus Christ is the LIGHT of the world. His disciples are little lights reflecting His glory. The closer we get to God the brighter our light will shine. As Christians we want to follow the teachings of the Bible. It's very important to remember that we can't earn our way to Heaven. Salvation is a FREE gift by grace through faith. Let's never forget that the precious BLOOD of Jesus Christ cleanses us from ALL sin which means there is NOTHING that can be added to improve the one time FINISHED redemptive work of Jesus Christ on the cross. Hebrews 10:10-14 & Ephesians 2:8-9.

[@starfireooo4844]

I get a kick how this guy and others can rationalize anything...

[@frankie8648]

Bishop your analogy of a parent bringing their child to a doctor to receive “shots” is great but may I respectfully suggest you add the word “allow” in your analogy if you use it again? The child looks to his parent(s) and thinks “How can you allow this person to hurt me? You have the power to stop this from happening.”

[@robertpigott5312]

There is no ending the backtracking logic that religion applies to explain that god exists despite all the common sense that tells us a god doesn't exist. This circular argument is a total cop out.

[@ta11guy63]

To me, the Bishop is on the right path with the statement the "God" is not within the scope of my mind. Unfortunately, he changes direction by saying "God" is also a person and then I find his argument as hypocritical. My traditional faith was altered by its hypocrisies. I learned to search deeper and took my faith outside of the realm that traditional religions follow.

[@gidave]

If you really wish to understand God, read Saint Faustina's diary.

[@vermontmike9800]

The only way that both God and tragedy exist is if God is a non-interventionist. Period. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t care about us. It just means he can’t interfere with his creation. He created natural law and he can’t break it. I’ve seen many of Bishop Barron’s videos and he always tackles these questions with word salad. Much like Jordan Peterson, they say a lot without actually saying anything.

[@majmage]

If he can intervene but doesn't, *he doesn't care.* If he can't intervene, *he isn't God.* (God in Christianity is defined as all-powerful.) Basically the Problem of Evil is a self-contradiction of God (the god of Christianity). But if you don't believe in that god, then yeah you avoid needing to deal with the contradiction. However you still wouldn't have evidence justifying belief in that other god, so why believe in it? Basically * ideas start unknown * so by default they aren't worth believing * they only become known by evidence * we don't have evidence any gods exist * for some gods (like God) we have evidence *they don't exist.* So for God it isn't even an unknown: we know God cannot exist. * in short, we don't have good reason to believe in any god, and we know for a fact God specifically doesn't exist.

[@vermontmike9800]

@ I partially agree. If god can intervene then it takes onus off of humanity which is self-defeating. But I get your point of view.

[@majmage]

@ Self-defeating how? I mean it sort of seems like you're saying *it's God's intent we suffer.* I think that's the logical conclusion, if we assume Christianity is true. 1. It describes an all-knowing god. This would mean before creating anything God would've known every consequence of every way the universe might be created. 2. It then describes God creating our universe. 3. It also says our universe contains evil (ie evil acts happen in it). 4. So logically God must be responsible for all evil (and all good; everything, obviously, they're an all-knowing all-powerful being said to have created everything, so how could they *not* be responsible?) 5. So logically God cannot exist (because God's also said to be "all-good", yet we just saw God intentionally caused all evil; that contradicts all-good, and when an idea contradicts itself, it cannot be true).

[@vermontmike9800]

@@majmage I’m not under the assumption that modern Christianity is true. Not even close. I am definitely not saying it’s God’s intent that we suffer. Under the non-interventionist/clockmaker theory of God, he made what we can see and experience but cannot interfere. Any suffering is caused by human behavior and is part of the human experience.

[@majmage]

@ Well how do you navigate the logic? An engineer's making a robot. The engineer's computer, which is never wrong, gives a 100% chance the robot will steal food from a factory if activated with its current programming. The engineer activates it anyway, and it steals. *Is the engineer responsible? Is it clearly the engineer's INTENT that the theft happened?* So it feels like you're forced to either say your "clockmaker" isn't all-knowing, or intended suffering, or doesn't care, or is powerless to stop it, or...I'm not sure what other solution exists, that might be all of the logical possibilities, yeah? Now we don't have strong, logical evidence of any god, so by extension we can't know any attribute of any god (like "all-knowing"). So I don't think we should believe in any of this nonsense, but if you're saying your "clockmaker" isn't all-good, then at that moment it *at least* avoids the Problem of Evil (which is about the self-contradiction of certain gods like God in Christianity; it sounds like you don't believe in God, but that's why I'm asking about your clockmaker's attributes, because it might still end up being a contradiction.)

[@larrymurphy9765]

Praise the Lord and pass the kool-aid!

[@ArchangelMegathron]

Because god prefers the 1 over the 99.

[@clarewoosley8376]

Why did you cut him off and not let us hear all of what he was explaining?

[@markbowen4022]

While I agree with in principle, the speaker contradicts himself by referencing God as "he", or "father" when he is not a thing within our understanding, describing "good" as things we like, and "bad" as things we dont and so on. Even the faithful are trapped by our earthliness. So pursuing God really means leaving self behind, but few can or want to. Not even churches do.

[@valerievanroten5629]

There is no way to answer this

[@alicegates9838]

I'm not ashamed to say I don't know about any of this..just that it's very hard to believe.

[@starfireooo4844]

I thought god was everywhere...

[@joeb2588]

It isn't God's doing in tragedy. Bad things happe. Everything we do is a risk. It's not God's fault. Planes go up, planes come down. Busses can fall off bridges, bodies break down.. What, we're supposed to jump from buildings and live?

[@upwardspiralyoga288]

Daily Dose of Barron

[@CollectorsProblems]

8:44 perfect!

[@victovarghese8967]

I thought one of the major differences between Christian and Islamic beliefs is that God is knowable in Christianity. However, I hear that we don't know God and that is why we humans complain about suffering. I tend to hold that view in order to understand suffering. I am still struggling with reconciling the conflicting views. Why isn't anyone able to explain these truths in a more simple way? Are there real truths beyond reasoning? (The more I learn, the more all seem to be concepts made up of abstract terms.) How do you know?

[@HeinzNetten]

Why can't we just say: God is a mystery and nobody knows anything about him.

[@thatguyk.5306]

Because that would be a self defeating statement, because the statement "we can't know anything about God" is a statement of knowledge about God. You should research Thomas Aquinas' idea of analogy to understand how we can know God.

[@HeinzNetten]

It seems God only becomes a mystery when, in his omnipotence and his omnibenevolence he fails to deliver.@@thatguyk.5306

[@jstefencavage]

God has indeed blessed you in the way you are able to explain so many things/mysteries/beliefs - so it’s easier to understand by us out here. Many priests speak in very theological speech, which immediately cause me to get lost in what they are saying. Thank you Bishop Barron!

[@brandonnotsowise2640]

Why is that God’s doing? What happened to free will? Why blame God for this now? If you believe in Him, then you would not be waiting for tragedy to blame on him. There’s plenty of things far worse than that plane crash going on this world and if that’s what tips you over in your faith, then you have many things to reconsider.

[@bellefleur8847]

Personne n'a a juger Dieu . D'ailleurs Dieu n'est pas dans la tempête ni dans le tremblement de terre,il ne prend pas plaisir a la souffrance....

[@kathleenwharton2139]

BS! God is Love ❤️ the adversary is Fear. There was Fear on the airplane. Job Feared and his calamities Came! 😊❤

[@josettesalang7662]

Father, maybe the god in us, is part of what the mysterious universal loving God, shared to us all as humans😅 Does it make sense? 😂 You made me think!!!🤣

[@youngcebcvaioz2588]

Why would God... No my friends, is why would us leave people on the streets without shelter, kids to starve, families to die without Healthcare. Try to make sense to the human things, not ''God way of thinking''

[@sovstte]

"The permissive will," as you call it is the problem! This inscrutable god that the bishop talks about is at the same time the man Jesus who walked the earth so then not so inscrutable! Just say that we have no idea why such human tragedy occurs and leave it at that. God, or whatever we call it, is unknowable in any human sense of what we call knowledge. I thank the good bishop for trying to explain but he falls short, way short of explaining how All Love can permit such pervasive heartbreak every moment of every day in this creation of His.

[@kainuisocean]

Blaming GOD for tragedy? Do you blame Him for DEMOCRATS or the devil??????

[@IosifStalin2]

He doesn’t know……that’s it. God is Totalli Air. But keep on giving his church your money.

[@snowy1634]

God had nothing to do with this horrible accident, one way or the other. What is he supposed to do, take away people's freedom of choice? There were so many mistakes made which led to this tragedy. People wittingly or unwittingly made those choices. God had nothing to do with it. I really have no use for Bishop Barron.