How A Monster Bull Fixes A Locked Gate...

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[@Martin.Wilson]

Wonderful to see these magnificent beasts being perpetuated and the bloodlines kept intact. One of the most disturbing statistics that I've ever come across in my life was this: in 1800, it was estimated that there were over 100 million bison in North America.....by 1900, there were less than 10,000. Blessings on each and every person that worked over the years to keep these animals from extinction.

[@rafterh2181]

I've worked with Buffs quite a bit, people make the mistake of thinking about them same as they would cows. Think about 'em more like sheep.....they behave more like sheep in that their herd instinct is far above a cows more in line with sheep. That being said they work the best when worked as a group. Get some of the cows in with him and encourage them gently to go through the chute. Once one goes down the alley they will all go, then just cut off which one you need to weigh. Anytime you separate just one he will panic and pitch a fit.

[@cherylmurten8615]

I agree with treats. Leave a trail of treats where you want him to go. It's a thought?

[@jonathanmohrmann9153]

Don't know if you have tried this. But we have done this with horses and cattle that don't go through handle systems that well. Leave the alley and head gate open. Put some cubes in alley way so he has to walk in a ways. Put Big Joe into the squeeze pen. Then just everybody walk away. Let him go through the alley on his own time. Leave water at the end for him. You may have to do it a couple of times. If Big Joe finds there is nothing wrong going through the alley to a reward he hopefully will go through when people are there. You might let him go through with people there a time or two then catch him. Just a though.

[@123TauruZ321]

"Put some cubes in alley way so he has to walk in a ways" What does that mean lol

[@DC-bx8ww]

Sugar cubes

[@123TauruZ321]

@@DC-bx8ww Oh right.

[@ehsnils]

I'd pick some pieces of hay with molasses on. I have yet to see a bovine refuse that.

[@alicewistrand210]

Dusty, you are so cool and calm when your bison don’t cooperate. They probably can read you well also. The tale of the spinning bull. You know your bison so well. Thanks for sharing.

[@jerrypaul3598]

Hi Alice how are you?

[@dianephillips325]

Since he loves his treats why don't you try to make it a more positive experience and give him some blocks while going through. We always grained our cattle when working them or putting them in a trailer instead of flag poles etc. Better calmer experience for them and us too.

[@marleneclough3173]

Agreed it works like magic

[@poltex6188]

That's what I was thinking!

[@paisleyjane9606]

Or pheromones?

[@nmr6988]

@@paisleyjane9606 Yeah that’s what you want, a giant bison looking for love.

[@philthycat1408]

End up with a giant pet instead of a semi wild animal.

[@doubled3983]

Hello from Oklahoma! With our bulls, we put a cow ahead of the bulls, they seem to work easier. she goes thru he follows bingo, you got him. Good luck!

[@karmaroberts6660]

If you always do what you’ve always done with Big Joe, you’ll always get the results you’ve gotten!

[@Rick_Sanchez_C137_]

BINGO!

[@marinbandel2574]

Love the throwback! You have improved your bison set up so much since this try. Big Joe is no joke, a really impressive guy! Can't wait til you work him this year! Hugs from N.C..❤️

[@lisacasoli]

It's nice to see how calm and collected with the bison when they won't cooperate 😍

[@C-24-Brandan]

You're def on Joe's schedule, he's one impressive animal. Definitely knows how to use his size and good looks on ya'll and his ladies lol.

[@blujen1642]

Couple thoughts fwiw. You've conditioned him to interact with cubes try a trail of cubes to lead him through the gateway to lock him into the system. Destresses and directs him without Pressure and would calm him when you give him breathing room. Looking forward from Big Joe's perspective it looks like a wall, he doesn't see the way thru n he is lookin to escape. Taking the blackout at the end before he turns into the system by the load out end would orient him the right direction so you can close up behind him. Great Videos!!

[@mikeheffler9813]

Slam Gates are a must, ;gates self lock when shut!! However enticing with feed generally makes it a calmer experience.

[@simondennis262]

I only know cattle not bison, but I think the same rules would apply as a starter: 1 Use the right tools. If the animal can break the kit, it’s not the right tool. Dangerous to you and them. No saving is worth it and once they have broken out, they’ll always think they can even if you make it secure. You’ve just taught him the way out is to break the gate. 2 Keep it low stress / think Temple Grandin. Others have made the points and they are all important and most importantly I think you are dong a great job of staying calm and quiet, but second to that I’d say keep him with his mates, especially the quietest ones and to start with. Next I would say the shadows, flapping sheeting and open backing gate are particularly holding you back. Let him go through as slowly as he wants if you need to, even if it just means leaving them in there on their own with the squeeze open to find their own way out, ideally with something nice to eat when they come out of the squeeze. Especially the first time, they always remember. Sounds a lot, but saves so much time, stress and damage in the long run. Good luck

[@theinacircleoftheancientpu492]

There's basically no animal that likes to be on their own when herded, in my experience. Every time you isolate one your job becomes a LOT more difficult, so I agree on not doing it unless you really have to. Edit: Depending on the animal it can be well nigh impossible. I agree on heavier duty stuff too, I think you can see and hear how light it is, sheep grade fine, with cattle it would always be at the back of my mind that I can't let things get too agitated. I've worked with both good and bad systems, fortunately mostly with quite nice-tempered cattle and sheep that weren't crazy jumpers.

[@angiebrewer9960]

😂😂 So good that Bog Joe is calmer now! But look how much y’all have learned!!! 💪🏻💪🏻

[@OldMtnGeezer]

A friend of mine once asked an old hand on a bison ranch, "Are they hard to herd?" His laconic reply: "Oh not so much. You kin herd a buffalo enywhur he wonts to go."

[@steveperyer4850]

That big bull is not going to be handled if ever with his smarts. He is not stupid, and with no handling as a youngster it makes it very dangerous. Hope you can work him soon.

[@46rambo49]

we use a skid steer with a modified gate panel up front, haven't had one challenge it yet, cat walk along the alleys is good idea too. one of our bulls is around 2200 #'s

[@who_needs_a_handle]

Nice to see lots of comments about patience and calmness rather than force. Animals know. All of us.

[@susieqmartin2746]

Oh I appreciate that you have a Lot of new people so much so that you’re replaying old video. Love what you do you’ll never work a day in your life! Thanks

[@jerrypaul3598]

Hello Susie how are you doing?

[@earlshaner4441]

Good morning from Syracuse NY everyone thank you for sharing your adventures and your farm

[@karensweet6530]

Gosh I love Big Joe! I love them all but he's so Big Powerful n Handsome! I remember this when you tried working him for the first time! Throwbacks reminds us of those forgotten times!! Thank you Dusty...Looking forward to you working the Bison this Fall...

[@GH0ST369]

I saw corals designed by an Autistic person that had a gradual circular flow, they worked wonderfully, the animals did not look as stressed, and they got to where they needed to be. Hope you could try something like that, worth a shot. Best of luck.

[@lindaj5492]

I’d guess that was Temple Grandin?

[@jamesjewell3515]

I am 72 and have dealt with Bison since I was about 6, learning on the farm/ranch I grew up on. I would add to numerous comments here about "positive reinforcements" with "use concrete posts." Get some 6 to 8" PVC pipe, bury it in a good posthole, then fill it with concrete. You can put hinges in while the concrete is not in yet, bolts, anything you need. Steel is like putty to these big bulls. Practice incremental moves, part way, give food rewards, back off, let the animal be alone, de-conditioned to the stimulus, since you are trying too big a bite up front here. Baby steps? Shape the behavior you want.

[@brucewayne99999]

i'm a born and raised city boy but videos and commentary like this is fascinating. thanks

[@philthycat1408]

Great how you care for this amazing animal. To tame him down or force him in any way would be a massive sin. Total respect to you. It must be wonderful to be in the presence of this creature 👍👍👍

[@dwightehowell8179]

Looks like you can drive Big Joe anywhere he wants to go. 🤣🤣😂😂😆😆😉😉

[@cypressblue8877]

Yeah, remember when you first tried Big Joe? Exciting for sure. Stay safe & take care of you all. Thanks for sharing, eh:))

[@Frostytravels]

need a cover on the gate so he can not see back. only the opening where you want him to go.

[@brentflora8965]

I used to work with brahma cattle & they are crazy also. I can send you a drawing of the corral that my dad built. It was the nearest thing to perfect when working with big, crazy animals that YOU have to outsmart them because you can't overpower them!!

[@afnDavid]

You can take the drums, snares, and bongos and jam em up.... The dramatic music is totally un called for.

[@justinsane7128]

Don't isolate him you're always going to have a problem then, running through with half a dozen of his buddies and you'll never have any trouble

[@JesgateOnDown]

Temple Grandin could tell you what could help. You know she redesigned cattle processing equipment (the whole set up) to promote more humane treatment & less loss of life & less injuries to cattle across the whole industry. Look up her work & you'll find helpful info to understand how the animal thinks & processes these situations.

[@antisimanticath]

I look at this Buffalo and I have the utmost respect and admiration for the ancestors who hunted them on foot with just a bow and arrow.

[@jeanburgin160]

Hope you get to weigh him this time. He is so massive! Goodness, powerful!

[@Lonesome__Dove]

I always say gates and fencing is mostly just a mental barrier for big animals lol. They could get right through most of it with no problem unless it's electrified lol they're tough guys and huuuuge! Big boy!

[@peckaragon]

I would agree with you Dusty for larger stronger Bison in the future you are going to have to strengthen your system to handle larger stronger animals.

[@lindahipp8329]

That was a trying day. GOD BLESS Y'ALL.

[@jerrypaul3598]

Bless you too Linda. How are you?

[@elbowroom7993]

I don’t have a bison, but I do have a very independent and temperamental Great Pyrenees dog who will NOT EVER be forced into doing anything, at the risk of bite threats. But she’s a lamb with playful encouragement, or with a treat or a favorite toy.

[@jrobinson5661]

Those are some rickety gates to hold back an agitated bull of that size…

[@chrisblack5795]

Would giving him cubes help?

[@NightRunner417]

My goodness that's a big boy. Like, regular cattle bulls are intimidating enough, but with that huge head all I can see is me getting squished into the mud, like no thank you Sir Joe I'm just fine from here. Also... "No... no not Dun Bear.. Dun bar." 🙂

[@math4U1234]

Body armor...grenade style pins in the gates...a buffalo named "Big Joe"...what can go wrong? LOL

[@nickdonovan1447]

My animals would do hand stands for sweet grain try enticing him with some of that too

[@freddymngadi6135]

"...he was actually pretty worked up this time", ... that tells you everything you need to know! Let's put "the handlers" thru that much stress (once a month) just to see how they cope!!

[@tjohnson9051]

That's a 4 legged freight train. A puny little gate like that won't stop him. I'd find out what kind of treats he likes and make a trail of them right to the scale. I haven't seen an animal yet that doesn't like treats. Good luck with that big guy.

[@62schmidt]

notice he doesn't try to get thru the blackout areas.. so blackout the gates. 2nd, put some food into the path you want him to take. the chute you want him to enter has no outlet visible to him. no one wanted to enter a blind alley. also tie your gates open so they don't swing. the animal sees that as something coming after them. shy away from movement, if you fed them near the entrance to the chute they would start thinking of it as a food source. not a trap

[@betsystevenson921]

Amazing footage 🦬

[@Pesmog]

I have seen at a couple of wildlife centers in Europe where they have large Bison and water Buffalo they use a squirt from a large CO2 canister (or fire extinguisher) when they want to corral them and just rattling the feed bucket doesn't work. Probably not best used in a confined area but seems to work in a field very well as they just move away from the noise and the cloud of gas.

[@craigkeller]

Really handsome animal. I’m thinking you’ll have to convince him running the shoots was his idea. Take a lesson from the wife when she wants you to do something.

[@bobelliott2748]

I sort of worked with bison in the 70s....I say sort of because that's all you can do with bison. Those corrals look really flimsy

[@cmans79tr7]

5:50 "beef-up" your corral, ha ha!😛 Don't let "Big Joe" "Buffalo" you😆.

[@kcuzz4091]

Like in Jaws you all need bigger and better gates and locking mechanisms. He's a beautiful, big bull.

[@samwilliams1142]

A cow will let you ride it, a bison has to be tired out before it will cooperate.

[@jamesclose5862]

Big boy needs big treats the way to his heart is through his stomach figure out what he likes and he'll go anywhere 😋 did you ever shake cat food and they come running 😋😋

[@lcmmassa8571]

Opening the gate before he learns to bust it everytine he wants it open

[@markbaird4924]

We had eight main herd bulls like your big boy. I was able to get a dart gun and the knowledge to use it. I just didn’t bring the big bulls in. Three inch drill pipe, eight feet tall. In fifteen years and 250 pair we never had an injury or lost an animal

[@marciaborg77]

Loved seeing the video clip again. When you finally got his weight.

[@eldaremington341]

Its beyond ......beefing up. It will have to be a..... bison up.

[@georgesheffield1580]

I watched a bison bull get upset at a Ford station wagon. Left it looking like it had been to the crusher , about a foot thick .

[@jodywade5617]

Kindness goes along way with a terrified critter.

[@TheDieselbutterfly]

Of course he's gonna be nervous with that dramatic music

[@AnvilDragon]

Not shure he likes the fabric moving or just no being able to see. You might put some short sections near the feed and water troughs. Later you might put a two foot high walkway next to the alley so the can hear and see someone going forward. A bit more lead than just push. A cow he knows that works well might go first to show it actually goes somewhere. Ideas only. I have never worked bison.

[@itsnotrightyouknow]

I see positive and negative comments. For me it's all a learning curve, and good luck finding the best way for you.

[@kathymac21]

Love the drums with this video.

[@dalefortner2179]

Big Joe says, “you are not the boss of me.”

[@sharronbertha3323]

Good Luck with all your work

[@danbrownellfuzzy3010]

Living in Wyoming and talking with ranchers for me it seems if they are trotting they are stressed. Keeping them at a walk cant hurt and might help.

[@williamgahman5028]

Hi Dusty. I remember this one. Was very interesting. God bless and love yall ❤ 💓

[@gloriawarner2304]

They are naturally herd animals, would it help if you had a gentler animal just go through ahead to lead the way. A trusted cow he is bonded to?

[@karendemorrow]

LOVE watching Big Joe!!! ❤❤❤❤

[@mickowen3318]

u must b putting a lot of stress on that beast

[@stevo68]

These creatures are so big and powerful that very little will stop them if they really want to get out.

[@jennifersneegas8352]

Can you let him go through with a couple of his buddies and just let them pass on through the squeeze without catching them. Maybe feed in the alleyway first for a few days. If he can go through unmolested then he may be more cooperative when you finally get to where you want to just run him through

[@monmixer]

What a majestic beast!

[@rebelcats749]

The handling facility needs to be way heavier. I our's the gates are made of 3" plus pipe and have heavy homemade slam locks I have belting hanging on all the gates. Every point of our facility can handle a full change from our biggest animals. That's what it takes for your safety. I generally don't single any animals out they get worked up really fast when on their own. Good luck with everything.

[@kodfkdleepd2876]

This is hilarious!!!! Anyways, he knows you are scared of him and he has no need to trust you. It's pretty simple actually. You should try to be is friend and he might listen.

[@freddyrosenberg9288]

For a bull bison, fences and gates are just suggestions.

[@tenccsmoothbrainsample]

He having none of it! 🤨🤣

[@jerryjohns7358]

Call the bison whisperer.

[@therooster6104]

Really cool animals 🤝🙏 always wanted to get them . I’ve got Red and Black Angus and just added a Pregnant Hereford. That is an absolutely Bison 🦬 herd you have good for you brother 🤝 Happy Thanksgiving 🦃🙏

[@mikecurliss848]

I was standing behind a gate at auction I had seen blown open before by beasts when latch was locked. Day dreaming I guess. 10 years later can still feel cracked ribs. Maybe was more than a crack.

[@grassroot011]

Big Buffer , says ," don't fence me in, " Haa

[@22minus13]

Try the temple grandil method

[@blackmonday738]

Of course no harm attended, but love to see the damage Big Joe could do to a car! Now that would be a cool video.🤙

[@jerrypaul3598]

Hi

[@phil6506]

Your pretty brave going in that pen with Bison.

[@wipatriot510]

Regardless how he may weigh, that is one big animal...

[@Nitephall]

If I watched this video drunk it would definitely make me hurl.

[@fanndisgoldbraid3183]

Wow. That's a big dude. Beautiful though. Animals are amazing!

[@jnaranjo7891]

Love the GoPro view

[@stuckgrenadepin.225]

Can you get him trailered? Take him to a truck stop scale or the closest landfill. Weigh the whole thing, unload him, weigh empty. Do the math.

[@rksando1]

Eliminate those tarps flopping in the wind. Even domestic cattle will get nervous around something like that.

[@kathydukowitz217]

Have you tried leaving a trail of cubes?

[@deronjurgensen6412]

Maybe get some help from Temple Grandin.

[@stuarth43]

poor ole bull, wonder if he's even seen green pasture

[@normplatt7549]

DANG ! Dusty!

[@adelacoburn1396]

I love these clips...

[@randalljames1]

the size of that animal is amazing....

[@duaneplummer1715]

i owned a farm fence company for 30 yrs. Beef up gate systems,make holding lots smaller,too much room for animals to roam around in. Looks like too much distance to the chute system.

[@lindaj5492]

Ever heard of Temple Grandin? She is a woman with autism who’s an expert on helping folk understand how to get animals to move through stockyards., by figuring out how the animals experience things. Check out her book.

[@justmejo9008]

Oh darn, if he’s anything like my dog, he just learned a new trick 😩