Hyundai Ioniq 38 kWh 1000 km challenge

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[@rols1234]

"Fast changing might be expensive in the future" Three years later.....yep, it certainly is!

[@barryo8694]

Simply one of the best reviewers

[@Scitch87]

Everyone else: "Drive slow and careful so you can get the most range out of your EV." Bjørn: "Drive fast and hard to warm the battery up so you get the best charging speed!"

[@ashton9699]

It's kind of a fine line when you're doing a road trip with an EV that doesn't have fast charge preconditioning, whether you will spend more time at the next stop waiting for less energy but a slow charge because you're coldgating, versus faster charging speed but needing to recuperate the extra wasted energy. Having an OBD scanner and app like Bjorn has is a good tool, especially if you're more tech-minded, to be able to see exact battery temp.

[@simoncanfer5030]

Good news for Ioniq 28 residuals :)

[@ChristianLanctot]

Yeah, my 28kwh is worth more than what I paid to buy out the lease. Nice!

[@ZicoTheMysticalWarrior]

Another great test video I feel like you really took one for the team with this and the Zoe test!!! Can't wait to see how the MG does, thanks.

[@MortenB0]

I don't know how you do it Bjørn, followed the livestream and still this video is interesting to see and kind of saved the day, thanks !

[@jaybou007]

Hyundai, the only car company who's able to make its new EV less efficient than its old one. Good Lord...

[@amiddled]

Jérôme Lévesque-Boucher it isn’t less efficient than the old one. The WLTP rating for efficiency is about the same. What’s different is that it doesn’t charge quite as fast on a 50kw charger, and can’t go over 50kw on faster chargers like the old Ioniq. That’s not an efficiency difference. That’s the sacrifice they made from using a bigger pack with a lower voltage. In return you get more range than the old one.

[@hugodeandres1497]

Herman Willems I disagree. 28kW ioniq is ~1420 kg. 38kW ioniq is ~1550 kg. 9% more weight, 35% more battery capacity. In paper it should be a good tradeoff but it doesn’t seem to translate that good into real life. I think 28kW ioniq is better and more efficient, even if you take into account that the 38kW ioniq is 130kg heavier. It is also supposed to have 44% more range and a better efficiency at 13kW/100km instead of 13.7kW/100km, which is great but is this real? I’m not sure. If they were the same price, having 10 more kW is definitely better.

[@amiddled]

Hugo de Andrés the efficiency is the same *despite* the extra weight. So, if you introduce weight, the new Ioniq looks even more impressive. The battery being bigger is resulting in more range.

[@oscaraurelio8869]

Fast charging is capital (who on Earth would want to wait 1h or more to charge up to 80≈90% of the car's battery?), and the newest of both is slower on this point, so in my opinion, the new Ionic is a bit worse than its predecessor. In all cases, the day there will have global network of electricity automotive charging points (Ionity, to begin with), slow charging and rapidgate will be complete deal breakers.

[@IDrAstiic]

Looks like a defo re-visit for the summer temp conditions, I'm sure it will get better charging speed with higher ambient temps outside. Great video once again :)

[@AnthonyWoodruffe]

Thank you so much for enduring all those ours to bring us this video. I really like the Ioniq and I think Hyundai could improve the car by adding some kind of battery pre-conditioning software.

[@donpatricio1927]

Thanks for the great video. Epic race with Pawel (Ioniq vs Zoe) would be awesome. Maybe from Oslo to Trondheim and back. :)

[@luisfernandes4145]

I always enjoy your videos! 😁

[@CoolSilver]

Stream Dispenser.... Best stream when warm. I like your video format you have with the wireless mic. Makes it a bit more formal of a video. Though you do a good job being the everyday guy living in an EV world.

[@kumarraj2012]

Hats off to your patience man!!! Stupid charging speeds for such a good efficient car.

[@philipsuarez986]

Great video as I await delivery of my Ioniq EV. At 6'5" the Ioniq is a better fit than a Zoe plus the leasing costs in the UK are very reasonable. The 270 km winter range or 165 miles puts a good part of southern UK in easy reach and certainly for me I could do a London round trip with approx. 30 miles in reserve. Roll on March!

[@juliedovey2748]

The coldgate effect probably won't affect us in the southern UK very often either as except for the cold winter mornings when we'll have charged overnight anyway, it is only rarely below 7C even in winter.

[@cookingfat1]

I'm also awaiting delivery of my ionic ev, roll on May for me, hopefully if it's ready in time.

[@Demobot1]

This test must be redone in the summer

[@nicholasbooth1065]

I guess its a great car for lower mileage drivers. These charging figures are not great, but if you only drive up to 150 miles and the occasional longer journey then it won't affect most drivers, and even then only in the winter :D

[@Kopfkirmes55]

Similar like a Ampera e with the big ass battery but shameful DC Charging Speed. In fact the charging speed is very similar to the Ampera.

[@ianjames3078]

Exactly my usage 👍

[@nicholasbooth1065]

@@ianjames3078 this is my usage also... only thing that may change my mind right now is the Peugeot e-2008

[@martinerwin3887]

The vast majority of people who buy this car will not use it for regular 1000km journeys. Therefore this is a much better car than its predecessor due to the larger battery, efficiency and better equipment. The 1000km test is not the measure of this car, though the slow charging speeds are disappointing.

[@volvocars5189]

I do hope that Hyundai will update how the battery temperature is managed.

[@sveinhelgeeliassen2896]

I installed Car Scanner and managed to set it up just like yours! Nice. For info you can go to "settings">Interface and units>Power units and choose kW instead of hP.

[@bjornnyland]

I did that towards the end. It was not covered in the video but the live stream people saw it.

[@20cent22]

How have you set Car Scanner to get the computer info? I have the OBD adapter but the setting didn't work for me... Do you need the pro version to get it work?

[@thomaseriksson3182]

Nice and funny review again!👍 Hope you get hands on MG zs EV in near future. They get huge sell sucess in Great Britain..and i hope its coming to sell MG in Sweden to👍 allways funny to watching you, keep going Björn🐻👍

[@onlineo2263]

OK Bjorn let's see the MG on the 1000km challenge in Norway in winter.

[@CoolSilver]

He will soon enough.

[@dezz00002]

@@Cloxxki Actually, he has already done a couple of tests in Thailand with an MG he bought there.

[@onlineo2263]

@@dezz00002 yes he has. But I live in the UK. Average temperature is 10C year round. Personally 35C in Thailand is less relavent than 0-5C in Norway right now.

[@dezz00002]

@@onlineo2263 Sure, but it goes to show that he is willing to test it here in Europe, as well.

[@kaasman78]

If only it could fast charge with 70ish kW consistently...would be a boss car.

[@neovelez]

I love the 2020 Ioniq EV. I drive around 100 miles a day and this car is perfect for me.I like the interior and the way it drives. Now that being said, would I want a Tesla or the new Mach-e, yes of course! But, I don't want a 500 dollar payment either and I only lease the Ioniq for just 64 a month. But, even if I had a Tesla I would never take it pass a 250 plus mile drive in one drive. But, that's me..

[@SylverWWA]

Great test video as always... but the new Ioniq's specs are laughing stock and straight pathetic - looking at you 47 kW max charging speed!

[@ScrapKing73]

But with a larger battery, you'll do destination charging more, and active charging less. So for many people or would be a good trade-off. I'd never do public charging with an Ioniq 38.

[@lars667]

Nice work. Is there a table over all the 1000 km challenges somewhere? I think I saw it in one of your videos?

[@cbromley562]

Model 3 SR+ for the win! But seriously, the Zoe and the Ionique are two cars we looked at in the past. We had a 3 and a half hour test drive in the Zoe R110 (52Kwh still in the 'to be announced stage) and liked it. We even stopped off for a quick shopping spree, and it handled multi-story car parking admirably. Our impression was that it would be a magnifant ev for 'local' driving, as long as it woudn't have to do regular long trips' We couldn't test the Ionique, as they didn't have one, in fact, the dearship robustly put us of buying one. However, it's always appealed, but in the long run, it wouldn't have served us for the longer distances we regularly do. Hyundai stock lots of hybrids, and along with every other manufacturer (it seems), resolutely advertisers hybrids, and only hybrids. On the matter of charging speed, is it technically possible for Hyundai to 'software-update', and improve it? Apart from this, the Ionique looks a great car. Your eating technique is second to none by the way.........which is just as well. ;)

[@manolexing68]

Perfect for Bangkok! Can't wait 'til they reduce the price on these here. Long trips in Thailand will have the driver wishing Hyundai hand an advanced cooling system just to allow for more snack time at charging stops :)...

[@csp6]

Would be great to do this in same conditions as the old car 1000km, it'd be much closer - less stops and charging would be faster too. Running a good 20C colder for this car's test!

[@sigdor1]

Definetly faster if tested in summer at 20-25°c. His first stop is way earlier than I’m experiencing at

[@pierremorant8885]

Hi Bjorn, do you see any chance that Hyundai updates the car in a couple of months maybe, and change the regulation of the battery temperature? Having said that, I fear that this is part of Hyundai's strategy, to keep the Ioniq not too attractive compared to Kona, which generates probably a better margin. Best regards from an Ioniq28 driver (who would never change for a 38....)

[@Owsryudie]

why not?

[@rjbiker66]

Interesting to see what the time would have been with a warm battery from the start.

[@mysteriousbigboy6744]

Came here for Bjorn. Stayed for the food!

[@samiralim95]

To compare the old Ioniq this test needs to be performed in summertime i think

[@mohammedsaeed1951]

Hello love your videos on the Hyundai ioniq electric 38kwh. Can you tell me which is the best one scanner for the car Thank you Saeed

[@daniellisy7161]

Hmm, honestly `I'm thinking to get a used Ioniq, it seems I'm not missing out on anything considering the old one was 2 hours faster than the new one :D

[@TheDjarEl]

Is it with or without heat pump ? What would be the range and charging speed difference with or without ?

[@alessandroanichini8900]

Ioniq has a big problem with charging,i hope in a new software for a better charging curve! Will you re-test theese cars also in summer to compare with the other cars? Will you test also the Peugeot e-2008? Thanks for your work!!

[@heijxje]

192 w/km is high for an Ioniq, but of course you are driving at temperatures around freezing. In summer consumption typically is 150. That is what I love about my Ioniq and luckily we own a fossil Van for long distance travelling because I too get 32 kw charging in winter. I use fast charging less than once a month and usually charge at work at 0,00 € per kwh. Perks of being ecological. :)

[@skog77]

Gotta get this done in the i3 120ah :D

[@Leftley89]

Hi Bjørn. Can you maybe make a video on how to show the speed sign on the dash display?

[@a1peck]

I would like to see how it dose in summer

[@Stevenyc69]

Bjorn what do you do for a living? I’m curious. Love the videos. You definitely have an awesome personality.

[@mathewrussell1533]

He drives electric cars and puts the videos on youtube :P

[@AaronStarkLinux]

33:10 Epic!

[@CoolSilver]

Very Epic.

[@ranaum7r]

Hello Bjorn i have a question, Are Hyundai And KIA reliable enough in a long run? As i always had a bad experience with them and still they doesn’t seems to improve. Didn’t tried their ev’s but m not sure if they are reliable enough

[@veljkodjukic8783]

Bjorn, Have you heard about Chinese electric car it's called Weltmeister EX5 (Weima EX5) and what do you think about that car?

[@amundstave]

23-43 kw charging speed is so pathetically bad.

[@bonham1981]

29:02 NEIN, NEIN, NEIN, NEEEIN

[@barrycollyer195]

Try covering up the air vent at the front to see if it will warm up quicker next time

[@barrycollyer195]

might also be worth going slower as you will get less cooling on the battery from the radiator at the front of the car unlike the previous version, counter intuitive I know but you never know

[@kumarraj2012]

Good for India. Bring this here Hyundai..!👍👌

[@hg60justice]

HORSE POWER? Sheeeeeeeiiit.

[@dezz00002]

It may be possible to change it to kW in the settings.

[@KCTalksEV]

Too bad I can't justify to do a 1000km challenge in the UK (Also, very few >50kW Rapids) I reckon the ZS EV could beat that time considerably in the same test. We have a cold temperature problem too. If connected to a 100kW, it will only pull around 54kW with a battery temp of 9.6

[@extotes91ulrich]

was the Ioniq not supposed to charge whit 100 kw?

[@sakru100]

Nice video! Just wondering. Do you have free Ionity charging (as I assume) or are you not bother about the huge price per kWh without subscription (which you can't get for many cars, like Ioniq)

[@MortenB0]

The huge price per kWh starts from February

[@Rangarid]

Hyundai is part of Ionity, so ask them to also provide better prices.

[@Traedkjaer]

Why was the old Ionic so much faster? Was it better charging speeds?

[@misaelramos83]

Wait so is the 38kwh Ioniq active thermal managed or liquid cooled?

[@nightwolf2k5]

Can we hope for a 1 to 1 real race between the ionique and Zoe? I think it would be Epic with Pawel.. too close to call!

[@kirkharrison1273]

What colour is the car in this review?

[@miciusbmw]

Hello. Ionic 38 kwh lights beter then 28 kwh ?

[@budmartin3344]

You should add food tasting so when people know which is a good place to eat. BTW, I hope Hyundai is watching this video.

[@altern8ive]

13:35 If you had pressed on "Detaljer" would it have shown more data ? To me the small arrow above could imply the data field expands.

[@bjornnyland]

Good tip! I will test next time.

[@samiralim95]

In summer time this car would charge quicker than most cars in its class 100%

[@thibs8801]

Great vidéo ! WINTER mode was enable ?

[@bjornnyland]

Of course.

[@TheDjarEl]

Question I have been wondering for a bit is how long this 1000 km challenge would take in an efficient hybrid car or even petrol ?

[@bjornnyland]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpWof6WPocaYsJI

[@NeverFollows]

Any word from Hyundai regarding the 1,030 odometer ? Does the Kona as the same 3% accuracy problem? 33:22 Thank you for the little extra sheeeeet... but in general you display the list of the recorded 1,000 km results, or can we find them online? Thank you again, I can't wait to compare the MG.

[@IVIenac3]

I'm guessing the tires might not have been the correct diameter.

[@Pervypriest]

@@IVIenac3 thats correct, the old ioniq has 205 60 16, the new Ioniq had205 65 16, so thats why its off by 3%,this is because of the new battery pack sits lower to the ground. The designers would not rise the car because of the efficiency loss so they basicslly incresed the tire hight

[@ranierspag]

Hey Bjorn did you encounter the door open issue around the 7:50 mark of the video every again? Curious because the exact same thing happened to me awhile ago. The only difference was I driving a PHEV and it happened to the passenger door.

[@ashton9699]

The door pin (in the door jamb) has a rubber overlay that goes around the plunger, and on rare occasions when the door is closed on it, it will kink and go around the plunger rather than compress with it properly. If the rubber has managed to develop a crack, it makes this more likely to happen. I'm a car alarm installer and we have seen it on a few occasions on this era of Hyundai/Kia with the door pins, but it is very common with the pin under the hood.

[@DerBlauzahn]

45 kW, 45 kW 45 kW, yeah 😉

[@kingkoolkata]

If Hyundai would just make a 64 kWh-Version with a liquid-Thermalmanagement of the ioniq. It would sell like crazy and would be a real Model 3 Killer in therms of range / efficiency and price 🤷‍♂️🤔

[@bjornnyland]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4LZn3ippJmgi6M

[@kingkoolkata]

Bjørn Nyland 🤪 Damn u are soooo right. Don‘t know how it happend to me 🙈 By the way, I passed your quiz😆 kW is power kWh is capacity;) I‘ll correct it:) Keep on the good work bjørn

[@martinmartin9648]

The challenge vs the ioniq 28 can't be fair. Te outside temperature was way off between both. It cost more energy to heat in the 38 challenge

[@thomaskania5100]

Hallo Björn, nice Video. I have a few questions. Why didn't you use the eco mode to get a better range? In your Video I saw that the electric heater was on. Did You not use the climatecontrol (Wärmepumpe, I don't know the english word) for heating? The electric heater in our car is almoast off, because of the higher consumption. Was perhaps the winter mode disabled? In my Ioniq I switched it off manuelly for summer. The German manual says, I should use it in winter to get a warmer battery and so more power.

[@bjornnyland]

Winter mode was of course on. This was a while ago so I don't remember. But I think I didn't use eco mode because it was being stingy on the heater. And all Norwegian cars have heat pump as standard.

[@thomaskania5100]

@@bjornnyland Thanks for your quick reply, Björn. Heat pump and electric heater, both can be used in eco mode. But there is one more mode, called eco+ mode, where this is not possible and where the highest speed is 90 km per hour... Kind regards, Thomas

[@govindkhatuwala5257]

Good

[@billgiosis9359]

The thing is EVs are ok on short distances but they have to be better for long distances (Tesla is ok) and Hyundai is taking a step backwards here and hope they make two steps forward next time

[@reynoldichi1090]

More regen for heating the battery

[@henrikingvarsson3863]

By not going to Löddeköpinge you replace a stretch of 120 km/h motorway with 110 km/h (and 90 km/h closer to Oslo). Could that have an impact on time, if this is the new route?

[@bjornnyland]

Helsingborg - Löddeköpinge has 110 km/h zone. It ended before Ängelholm. Helsingborg - Löddeköpinge - Helsingborg is about 65 km. But the stretch north of Rygge has 100-110 zone for 36 km. Then 90 zone for about 10 km before it hits 80 zone. The difference in time is just 3-4 minutes. But because of lower speed, the energy consumption is also lower and less charging is needed. The real difference is therefore just 2-3 minutes. Not significant at all since the slow 80 zone is so short.

[@henrikingvarsson3863]

@@bjornnyland My bad, thought it was 120 km/h past Helsingborg. But ok, seems like you have taken these factors into consideration then (unsurprisingly). I guess you have a point in that the slower last stretch enables you to make a slightly quicker final charging session. That can probably compensate somewhat for the lower speed limit on the final leg. Thanks for your hard work! 👍🏻

[@torytronrud2413]

What's happened to winter in Norway?

[@CoolSilver]

Winter has been screwed up even in Midwest. Very warm

[@StevieHypno]

@@CoolSilver Here in Glasgow, Scotland, we have not had one flake of snow this winter. Due to the warm gulf stream current, we usually don't get much, but there has been hardly any frost or ice in the mornings either. Its 5.40am in the middle of January, as far north as Moscow, and its 8 degrees C. {46F}

[@Christer885]

👍

[@iha42]

Wow thanks a lot for your extreme test Björn - ok, so the ioniq and the zoe can do 1'000 km in roughly in the same time, but I guess if you would repeat this test in 5 years using cars with 120k km on the distance counter you will get a very different result - ioniq will do it probably in the same time again but Zoe won't - that's why the BMS of ioniq is behaving so cautious. Fürther when the ioniq charges with 35 kW any other car needs to charge at least with 43 kW (20% more) in order to beat his charge speed in terms of (range / time) ratio. Cheers Ingo

[@theDaNi0]

Why do you say that about the Zoe? Does it not have battery cooling/heating?

[@osterreichischerflochlandl4940]

Now in January 2022 I thought about changing my "old" Ioniq against the facelift. But as the charging power is still that unacceptable I will stay with the 28kWh-model, even though the infotainment system is a pita.

[@AzizIzgin]

I am also considering buying ioniq with 28 soon… Do you have any recommendations on what trim to look for? In Sweden a second hand model 2018/2019 cost around 20k euro. The one I am negotiating with doesn’t have leather etc. It doesn’t have “dead eye” warnings… Can these be preheated via app? Really appreciate any recommendations 🙏🏻 Also, on motorway, at around 110kmph , winter or summer… how often do one charge?

[@osterreichischerflochlandl4940]

@@AzizIzgin I bought mine just at the end of August 2021, 2 years old with about 8000km. It was a car used by the car dealer and had a price of 24k€ - winter tires were another 1000€. My mother and siblings live about 500km away, so a single trip during winter time now takes almost 6 hrs (incl 3x charging at 190-200Wh/km). I am looking forward to the summer season: It should be much more convenient as I can assume that I may need about 20-30Wh/km less, i.e. 14kWh. That really makes a difference: I can then select a charging point which may be 30km farther away than in the winter season.

[@antoniocirino8444]

The voltage is too low compared with other cars.

[@dangerdaveofdevon]

Would winter mode help with cold gate?

[@bjornnyland]

Winter Mode was already on.

[@SchroedingersDog]

9:50 Austin Powers reference!

[@arnekvinge6073]

New test in summer? More range and no coldgate?

[@arnekvinge6073]

@@bernhardleopold6702 but no active cooling?

[@toke3d]

Test against the small batteri E-Niro

[@brianginn1993]

Of all the ev’s, which do you like best?

[@bjornnyland]

Tesla

[@zamarinen]

I have a dumb question Does it even make any sense to charge this car on Ionity? It won't go over 44-45kwh as you mention in the video and you will pay 0,33euro/minute for something that could potentialy charge double as fast if you had another car. Dosen't it make sence to charge this car at 50kwh chargers? or are they as expensive as ionity anyway?

[@bjornnyland]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4LZn3ippJmgi6M

[@nyneak]

you have to make temp inside 28 to warm up de battery

[@bjornnyland]

Uh, no. That's not how it works...

[@nyneak]

Bjørn Nyland ioniq share air inside with the battery, it has fan under seats to go air to battery. my zoe warms up battery only 4-5 degrees but ionyq share more heat transfer

[@nyneak]

Bjørn Nyland you should make a test of al cars with heat transfer from the cabin to battery in the winter in P and D mode, exept tesla :)

[@Isaac-un4cn]

Has anyone ever seen Bjorn give a thumbs down to food he tries on camera?

[@bjornnyland]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hojbZpdondt5ps0

[@siraff4461]

He seems a straight up guy. If its bad he's going to tell you.

[@CoolSilver]

Kinda like complaining about high prices of a meal on a boat.

[@no-damn-alias]

I don't get it. Why did they make the Ioniq deliberately worse. No you're not moving people to the Kona. You're moving them to the Model 3 ! 64kwh battery from Kona and same C-rating on charging like the original Ioniq and you have some competition for the Model 3 for a fraction of the cost

[@siraff4461]

Bjorn what temperature do you have the climate at? I wonder if the car feeds the interior air to the battery? If it does it might make it faster by just turning up the heat.

[@bjornnyland]

It doesn't.

[@siraff4461]

@@bjornnyland Thats a shame man. A battery heater would really help this car in cold temperatures. Thanks for the test.

[@govindkhatuwala5257]

Show 2021 modle

[@yasin040190]

What about if you drive this in hot weather like in 30°C-40°C? Rapidgate?

[@DerBlauzahn]

It's liquid cooled...

[@bjornnyland]

No rapidgate.

[@yasin040190]

So, there is only a cooling option and not heating. Thanks👍

[@pedromiguelsantos7287]

Nice video as always. Probably a nice deal in southern countries like Portugal were Leaf and Zoe getting some sales numbers. 2020/1 will be years of change in the euro car market. For me they are to expensive or not deliver what I need. I'll just change my car when I think the dust is settled.

[@andrejmeschede2057]

Haha in distances until 1000km even the 62kwh Leaf might be faster than the ioniq eventhough it rapidgates. That's because the Leafs loading curve is much better

[@jimmiwesterberg886]

What OBD are you using?

[@bjornnyland]

OBDLink LX

[@jimmiwesterberg886]

@@bjornnyland would that work with the 28 kwh ioniq? It would be interesting to see the battery temp in the old one, under the same conditions

[@californiamicke9527]

🙂👍🙂👍

[@MrAlin311]

Am only here for the ride ,, don't care about anything else !!

[@nachocollantes7602]

Watching the Norwegian tai ninja videos is very interesting. Watching him eating priceless. Very funny. We are on the mooove! We are at nevenes (sound like this to me)...the best youtuber

[@A.l.e.x.93]

I think the Ioniq Facelift 38kWh needs a new 1000km challenge. From 10-80% he charges 10 minutes faster now, especially in summer. My Ioniq Facelift is faster on charging. Not in the peak but nowadays he holds the charging speed longer „on top“ 😅

[@AzizIzgin]

What range do you get during the winter and summer?

[@A.l.e.x.93]

@@AzizIzgin That depends on your driving profile. If you travel a lot on country roads or in the city, then around 330-370km in summer and 250-300km in winter. But if you're on the highway a lot, things look different. In summer you can expect 230-280km. In winter, on the highway, 200-250km.

[@AzizIzgin]

@@A.l.e.x.93 wonderful information 🙏🏻 I am debating if I’ll buy the ioniq 38 (i already own the 28 today) or the marvel r. I like the idea of a bigger car. But range is important and not having to wait too long after say 250-300km of nonstop driving on a road trip.

[@A.l.e.x.93]

@@AzizIzgin no problem. But remember that the Ioniq 38 can't charge very quickly. A Marvel R or Ioniq 28 are faster.

[@AzizIzgin]

@@A.l.e.x.93 yeah I’ve found different results on range with marvel r. Did Björn ever do a real 1000km challenge with it? I believe he did a range test with the performance version with awd and not rwd . I’m just wondering how well it did so it is almost same range as others with the same size of battery.

[@9bulkhead]

what are you paying

[@chanseormon]

+Bjørn Nyland you should get the 2020 Hyundai Ioniq Plug in Hybrid because it's a Gas/Electric car

[@chanseormon]

@@patreekotime4578 yes but he'd get 630 miles of range though

[@DerBlauzahn]

@@chanseormonThat's not, what this channel is about 🤷‍♂️

[@bjornnyland]

Eh, no thanks. You must be new here? No one needs 1000 km of range unless you pee in a bottle.

[@dier2tte]

@@bjornnyland "Ed Bolian wants to know your location" )))))

[@adrianiosifalbu]

You don't have a coffee mug for Circle K?

[@bjornnyland]

I don't drink coffee.

[@adrianiosifalbu]

@@bjornnyland how is that even possible? Geeeeezzz 😂😂

[@AlexJPetrov]

I was here for the nein, nein, nein, nein. 29:02

[@wocket42]

28:34 Disconnecting while charging at 48 kW is something nobody would do in real life, though.

[@bjornnyland]

Duh, that's because I had enough juice. Other people would of course disconnect there too if they have enough juice to reach their destination. Or do you really think people would waste time and pay for more expensive charging rather than going home and plug in and get cheap charging? Lol

[@wocket42]

@@bjornnyland not everybody can charge cheaply at home. I have the 38kWh and I can only charge very slowly at home which makes it more expensive than most fast chargers due to high losses of on board charger and cable.