Hyundai Ioniq 38 kWh Geilo test

[@27melvo]

Honestly, these have gotten me through lockdown since last year. It also made my buy the last gen Ioniq and just purchased the new Ioniq. Thanks Bjørn!!

[@ExBenzi2]

Hyundai and Tesla appear to be the only manufacturers to have figured out how to build an efficient EV.

[@ExBenzi2]

Hola Adios Yup. Hyundai owns KIA, that‘s why I didn‘t mention KIA in my comment.

[@ExBenzi2]

Wolfgang Preier Hahahaha :D. Made my day.

[@coolfrost6]

The bmw I3 is not bad either

[@apocrypth]

only thing is that ultra slow charging speed, otherwise this would be absolutely great car, but...

[@DJohn-op1xt]

Mine is being delivered to me tomorrow. Can't wait.

[@johndouglas770]

I love it when you make the positive happy comments in English and the negative angry comments in Deutsch😂

[@fergus247]

the next test is consumption with 5 people. i wonder how much e-tron consumotion would go up and how much ioniq consumption will go up with max passengers

[@squeakers27]

@Mark Magiera same effect if you put heavy weights in each seat or the boot ;)

[@DerBlauzahn]

No big difference with 5 people... It's an EV, not a fossil. Think about regen. Weight doesn't matter THAT much.

[@TeslaHaffi]

More weight just means more W on both Car, its the weight of the E-Tron that makes it inefficient.

[@DerBlauzahn]

@@TeslaHaffi It is the aerodynamics, that e-Tron makes inefficient.

[@TeslaHaffi]

@@DerBlauzahn It sure is a part of it. but the weight is a big factor, and they have much bigger battery and still does not help, it's an overall design, IMHO.

[@cyman777]

56min to 80%, not 1:45 - that would be to 100% - literally cool test anyways ;-)

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[@weetabix1045]

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[@volvocars5189]

Great test Bjørn, let's do a retest this summer! And a 28 kWh vs 38 kWh race to Geilo or Oslo-Trondheim via Østerdalen would also be such a good race.

[@b_lumenkraft]

The Geilo List: Audi -2%, Ioniq (new) 9%, ... looking forward to the next Geilo tests. Very cool idea.

[@TravelwithPavel]

Like Audi could have made it, he had 7% when started charging and left with 14 and arrived with 7.

[@kjetilros]

8:37 just love that reaction.

[@lastminutesolutions]

The classic ioniq was the first EV I had driven. Still remember how pleasantly surprised I was.

[@snipermakedonski]

I wish we had those gasprices now. 2.55 euro/L here. Looking to get this car start of next year with grants.

[@costinioana]

Just some quick maths (hope I got the formulas right): Ioniq: * 38.3kWh net (is it net?) * weight + driver = ~1680kg * potential energy gained: ~2.75kWh * Potential energy as % of max batt: ~7% eTron 50: * 63kWh net * weight + driver = ~2450kg (!!!) * potential energy gained: ~4kWh * potential energy as % of max batt: ~6.3% What's interesting is that even though the Ioniq is more heavily penalized (as a % of total energy available) by the climb, it still makes up for it and then some due to overall higher efficiency. This is the ideal shape (as opposed to SUVs / other boxy things) for low drag / minimizing losses / optimizing range.

[@royvankuik]

Geilo test is my favorite for sure!

[@AaronStarkLinux]

How about Model 3 SR+ Gelio Test?

[@nakfan]

Yes, good idea... Then TB could establish some kind of reference for that test.

[@Bjornar_Gjostol]

bought Hyundai Ioniq 38 kWh today, sold my other Ioniq you must take a roadtrip from Bergen - Førde - Stryn - stranda - Molde, best roads and nice views

[@bjornnyland]

I have been there many times before. Wonderful places.

[@metalplaylist]

Strange, I felt it was a lot colder when I visited Norway (Oslo to Bergen - Flåm - Aurland, Tyssedal ..) last november than now. Cool to see roads I drove in in your videos. Keep going, love your channel !!

[@amiddled]

10:30 approx 50 mins to 80%. Good test Bjorn, thanks. New Ioniq seems to be a good car. Bluelink app seems good - hopefully they will add the charge rate. Could even be better than the old Ioniq if your trips are regularly 250-300km. Do you know if the nav system includes information as to if chargers are in use?

[@GavinLi-ie7tl]

Unfortunately at least for the Australian model, the charger information seems to just be an offline database and doesn't show you what chargers are in use :/

[@GlenwingThink]

Leaf: Charges slowly because no battery cooling New Ioniq: Charges slowly because no battery heating 😂

[@simoncanfer5030]

It's the low voltage!

[@GlenwingThink]

@@simoncanfer5030 Both really :(

[@simoncanfer5030]

@@GlenwingThink Ioniq28 charges fast at low battery temps. Odd that 38 BMS is so conservative, different chemistry possibly.

[@perengstrom3414]

For most users the charging time is not a problem. For day to day use the range is long enough so you only need to charge over night at home. Also, slower charging might do wonders for battery life.

[@simoncanfer5030]

@@perengstrom3414 but many say EV is no good if it can't do 300 miles, rapid charging should at least be possible!

[@ThePeterOlausson]

That charge speed though.......

[@BuntaBall40]

This is the best road test you do mate. Geilo for the win

[@brecherxp9795]

Great eficiency, just like the classic Ioniq. But your video shows how sad it is, that they ruined this winner car with just one thing, the charging speed. If you go to geilo and back, the old Ioniq will be faster. I guess a lot faster, because it doesnt "coldgate". For me, this is sad, because I would buy the new Ioniq as my next car. Would. Now I stay with my classic one. Very nice colour, by the way.

[@brecherxp9795]

@@mjk8019 ? You are refering to a possible battery capacity update or what? For they classic one? Dont understand...

[@amiddled]

T. Günter old Ioniq would have to stop before it arrived at the destination, so likely it wouldn’t be faster.

[@brecherxp9795]

@@amiddled If you do the whole trip to geilo and back, the classic one will be at least 30 min. faster. It charges at 65 kw.

[@amiddled]

T. Günter yes, but my point is the old Ioniq (200km range) wouldn’t make it all the way there without charging (226km), whereas the new one will. Using Bjorn’s self imposed limit on this test, it wouldn’t even qualify to take part as it won’t make it. If was tested, you’d have to stop. That will significantly eat into the time with the overhead of stopping. There is some advantage with the extra range in the new one, if you charge at home and do a longer distance that the old one isn’t capable of.

[@amiddled]

mjk I find it unlikely that owners will be spending 35-40K Euros and then ripping the battery out and starting again. Maybe one for 5 years down the line when the warranty is out.

[@bernardcharlesworth9860]

Great video interesting car. But 2 degrees in Norway. Never that warm 30 years ago. What the heck is happening out there?

[@vjHeaven]

Europe has experienced some weird weather anomalies this winter. Really warm weather and little to no snow. Probably is the global warming. :(

[@slijkhuis]

8:36 😂😂😂 2 years later, and THOSE gas prices are cheap! Geilo test is ny far my favourite. 😊

[@dnnstereo]

Can you please test 120ah BMW i3 with Geilo ?? I wonder how efficient it is under these circumstances and if it can make the 237 km uphill...

[@techontesla5284]

I like watching him he makes it very interesting and a lot of fun keep up the good work my friend😎

[@bjornnyland]

Who is this guy talking about? :P

[@Jesperrescue]

Would be awesome if you did a test with the 38,3kwh ioniq with degradation over time like u do with the 28kwh version. the prices are going down now on used 2020 38,3kwh and I am debating with myself to invest in one. i drive 120-130km/day and now during the winter my bmw 225xe (2019 10kwh battery) is consuming 3.3l/100km and 7kwh/100km combined now when winter struck. atm in sweden i could trade in my bmw for a 38,3kwh ioniq. should i wait or invest?

[@Exxodus74]

I have a 38 and live in Australia. Great climate for the car, maybe a little on the warm side. Do all my driving in the metro, perfect for that. Charger at home. Love this car.

[@PatricMelander]

Really liked this test 👌

[@tommesob5099]

Thanks for picking up my critics. This makes full sense now. 1,70€ for 1L of Diesel is insane. Sadly here in Switzerland its even worse with 1,75 at the moment

[@ianjames3078]

Thomas Wiebus in the UK it’s approx €1.56 at today’s exchange rate. Salaries are 30% less than Norway and ......well......€44k uk vs €77k Switzerland. I think fuel prices need to be considered in the context of affordability......and also how far people travel by car?

[@theoz2850]

Still seems to be way too cheap considering how much fuel people are consuming using their ICE cars.

[@keithchater4203]

Excellent test route, good views as well.

[@MortenB0]

Geilo test is great, the destination is very typical for people who go to a owned or rented cottage in the mountains, not only from Oslo but also Bergen, Stavanger and most of the other cities. Soon time for EV and mountain lovers to rent a cottage near Geilo.

[@berny_electric_22]

Hey Bjørn, thanks for your Geilo Test. Can you tell which tyres you were driving in the Winter?

[@seanbailey8545]

Approx 150miles in such low temps and with that gradient is insane. I'm sure with warm weather and no uphill you could hit the stated 193 wltm.

[@nagabiru13]

Like Geilo test. Hope to see more test to Geilo every car you test.

[@TravelwithPavel]

Did Tesla paid Hyindai to get SR+ more orders? Otherwise I dont understand why they made it charge so slow?

[@finvka1]

☺️ Still the efficiency king. Ionig gets the most out of any battery size. Wish I could afford one. I just ordered a Skoda Citigo e iv, because that's the only new EV here in Finland, that I can afford. Nice test this new one! 👍

[@moriak15]

i think Citigo iv is really great deal now. I ordered one too becase there was good prize in my country (with government grant). For my driving style it will cover 90% rides.

[@finvka1]

@@moriak15 ☺️ Yep, a bargain for the range. At the moment, my wife & I drive a Citigo with petrol engine, so the transfer to electric is easy for us, LOL

[@tymanot]

Thanks for the Video Björn. Like the Hyundai App I have to say. Way better than my B250e App. The Car is still really efficient. Respect.

[@pierremorant8885]

My Ioniq28 charges fast at low temperatures, charges fast at high temperatures.... If only the Ioniq38 had the same charging capabilities as the old one, not even better, only the same: over 60kW from 10 till 84% ! Then it would be a GREAT car !

[@linus3681]

Geiloooo!

[@CoolSilver]

Geilo... How are you?

[@CoolSilver]

This test is pretty good estimate for a variety of reasons. You often show that elevation changes affects range and consumption. Not many think about that and incorrectly think that electric motors wouldn't be affected because constant torque.

[@DG-uv3zw]

When you go up, you need to go down... Its same with ICE...but its better with Evs because of regen!!!(you get some of that power back)

[@DashDrones]

Shiiiit, you made my Monday with this trip.

[@Lo_Durr]

ioniq consumption is iconic! :-)

[@nathanskilling]

This test made up my mind for me! Thank you!! Charging speed is just too slow...

[@Pebbzor]

Most of the time one won't need to fast-charge anyway, so for me it doesn't matter so much. I'm aiming for this car now, in this color!

[@scottwills4698]

I charge at home all the time, going to order one tomorrow Premium SE in white.

[@cosminduca3335]

Really nice test, Björn! I like it! And I BEARly :) wait for the 1000 km test. I would dare to say 13.5 to 14 h for the 1000 km challenge, but I hope it is better. I have ordered this new Ioniq to commute back and forth to work and fast charging is not that important for me. At home I have at least 10-12 hours charging time and 8-9 hours at work for a 85 km one way. So, I should be good! I wanted to be efficient, and it looks to me it still is. And practical too.

[@Scott-1000]

What's happened with the charge speeds? Ruined a good car with this problem.

[@JPSG3]

You need to test this car in the summer because of the charging speed.

[@Scott-1000]

This is the best real world journey test. Great car. 1000km challenge not for us in the UK.

[@syedabid3010]

Hyundai killed it's best EV

[@patrykdeorocki1448]

I've been watching some of your movies and what hits me is 1000km test and quiet differance beetween Ioniq 28kwh and 38kwh !!! Is it because of charging time trip took much longer in 38kwh ?

[@erhardt1477]

Well... One question, does anybody else wanders what Tesla Björn does for a living..?🤔 Since he appears to live in cars 🚗😝 Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪... Ja 👍 ... The BMS should get better, otherwise the car is great 👍...charging time is ridiculous 😝 As a German... the GEILO test sounds funny 😄

[@adrianiosifalbu]

You have also a Spar shop in Geilo and they have good hot meals to take away , cheap and good

[@alejandromeneses7735]

The Geilo tests has become a staple now! nicely done. Now, since the trip with the Model 3 was hindered by terrible weather, would you do it again under comparable conditions? If possible with both, the SR+ and the LR.

[@RoaldHemel35]

Next race: New Ioniq vs ZOE ZE50?

[@pantzman]

08:40 "look at the gas price!" Today they are more like 25 NOK for diesel and 27 NOK for 95unleaded. :/

[@TheBeeksable]

Björn, big fan of your channel and reviews, but would like to know if you charge for free or incur cost every time you charge at, say, Fortum or CircleK? I assume you charge at Tesla Superchargers for free. You mention the trip in the new Ioniq (would) cost 6 NOK per kWh (and appear happy with that rate). Over here in Holland, that would actually be pretty much the top rate in the market... Would be interested. Thanks and keep going!

[@bjornnyland]

Of course I have to pay at Circle K and Fortum.

[@presw2pw123]

Love your videos. I'm fast becoming an electric car junkie. Fast question (math is not my strong suit). You express consumption as 13.3 WH/kM but in the US my Ioniq says 3mi/kWH. I'm not sure how to convert. Can you help me figure that out?

[@noleti]

13.3 kWh/100km => 7.5km per kWh = 4.66 us miles per kWh

[@romanmarius846]

Hello. Can you make a video about how can to connect with Bluelink to Ioniq? I try to do this from 3 weeks

[@onedankind8168]

If they charge so much slower, even to 80%. What exactly is the point of more range compared to the smaller battery of the older ionic?

[@Annanough]

Whats the point in having a battery heater in these Hyundai's if they do not heat the battery in these type of situations. I drove Kona 300kms in 3-4°C conditions in Ireland. When I pulled into Ionity battery temp was 15°C and only got 54kWh.

[@GlenwingThink]

kW*

[@AaronStarkLinux]

17:13 "Time to Leaf" xD

[@napradpoPolsce]

Good Test

[@kungvikberg]

Kommer du att testa ioniq 5?

[@FHB71]

I have been waiting for this.

[@christ3193]

Very Good Video. Thank you. You make e-mobility transparent to everyone. Your videos inspired me buying a M3 Last year. And its goood shiiiit man 😄

[@rocman664]

Mr Nyland, what do you think about bob flavin's review, stating that it's the worst car ev he's ever driven, or reviewed ?

[@felixklee8030]

Hey, I have a stupid question. Why do you speek sometimes german words? You are not in Wikipedia so I cannot google your biographie to finde out why 😅 Thank you Felix Klee

[@sharkyrol]

I'd be so happy if my Outlander phev could take 15kw AC.

[@TheNighthawk00]

Hey Bjorn, I just saw your Model X vs Model 3 race. I was wondering if the Ioniq's good efficiency in this test is due to the low speeds. If you would be driving the Model 3 at the same speeds, what would you get as efficiency?

[@DG-uv3zw]

Model 3 sr+ is now officially efficiency leader!( it became I think last months or so based on new measuring and software updates!). But theory is one, real world test is something else. Would be amazing if Bjorn could test latest sr+ to Geilo!

[@autobahngringo]

Hi Björn, could you do a Geilo and 1000 KM test with the new BMW i3?

[@adammuc]

@Bjørn Nyland, just warm up the battery (accelerate/regen/accelerate etc.) before you reach the charging station, than you will reach some proper charging speed! 👍

[@TeaPee_live]

Do you have actually tested what you said here? I am currently hesitating between old and new Ioniq.

[@jeffreylebowski3216]

​@@TeaPee_liveSo which one did you buy?

[@TeaPee_live]

@@jeffreylebowski3216 The new one but already sold it.

[@digisuboob]

what does it cost to plug in for charge

[@tesla-natik5249]

Nice test and amazing efficiency for this new Ionic. What was your average speed during the trip? Keep good 💪 I am wondering if it would be as efficient as my M3 SR+..

[@danielsaterborn5449]

Long time no i-pace! Please do it Björn! Updated efficiency and all FTW?!

[@orlovsskibet]

I came for the food but stayed for the car review. :)

[@julianguffogg]

That food looked so tasty!

[@jasonwkc]

The slow charging speed seems very bad for a long trip. It's a good car but seems not good to operate in cold place like normal Europe.

[@MCSMIK]

Basically confirms it’s a great car for those that don’t do long trips and don’t rapid charge - like my wife who currently drives the Leaf 30. So maybe Ioniq 38 is an ok future car as an upgrade for her. When we can get them used

[@BuntaBall40]

Is it possible that the HVAC needs to be off, the same as you discovered in the new Ioniq 5 and Kia ev6?

[@bjornnyland]

No. In this case it was not overheating. It was coldgate (too cold battery).

[@AdrianMcDaid]

This car seemed be great until I seen the charging speed .

[@kumarraj2012]

Adrian Mc look up Tata Nexon EV. There can’t be a worse car than that😅😅

[@AdrianMcDaid]

@@kumarraj2012 The range of this car seems impressive for the size of the battery but the slow charging having to wait at charger for so much longer than I should is big deal. Have i3 at moment want 100+ KW charging in my next car.

[@kumarraj2012]

@@TheFourthWinchester why should he consumers bothered about companies taking risks. What we need are good and practical electric cars. If there is a demand for it, I don’t see any risks(other than a diversion from the existing plans and may be no dividends for the investors for a while😀)

[@francisgaliegue6645]

The rolling resistance DOES NOT increase in the wet; if anything, it decreases (since the rolling resistance is defined by the coefficient of friction between the tyre and the surface). The reason why energy usage is higher in the wet is that tyres push water away, and the energy used to push that water away (basically, m*g*h) is greater than the drop of energy due to the drop in the coefficient of friction. This also explains why energy usage is so much higher on roads covered with snow, or remnants of it thereof (salt included, when roads are "salted").

[@JPetr94]

In fact, rolling ressistance is coefficient = force in Newtons to travel mass/total mass in Newtons. So wet tires are equivalent to tires with heavier sidewalls and thread. There are same tire models but with different speed/load ratings/sidewall thickness and as a result weight and EU RR rating.

[@ashley8bit]

Great test. I’d like to see this test with the new Zoe.

[@bjornnyland]

I bailed out because of bad weather: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpvZZ6SAf7eXrLs

[@jost4786]

Could the I3 120 Ah reach Geilo? Just on the limit?

[@Justin52wales]

I think that’s a great test run Tesla next 👍

[@todordanchev8255]

Why those cars in Norway are so much cheaper than in Europe?

[@Traedkjaer]

Imagine the Ionic with a BIG 100 Kwh battery!! That would be a game changer for range!

[@goinpoo]

Yes but that would hamper efficiency since it would add a lot of weight

[@DG-uv3zw]

@@goinpoo Who needs that much of a range anyway. To me 500km of real world range is perfect, supported with decent charging speed(100kw+). Thats basically model 3 long range but price in EU is still very high...

[@goinpoo]

I don’t know who needs that kind of range but it sure would be nice to have longer range

[@sverreytterdal7167]

Nice test bjørn. Does anyone know if the heatpump efficiency is any different from the older version?

[@DG-uv3zw]

if your car consumes 15kwh/100km - heat pump is responsible for ~0.5kw. Withouth HP ~1.2kw! Its around 5% in 100km!!! People are obsessed with heat pump... For longer trips, charging speed is king!

[@sverreytterdal7167]

@@DG-uv3zw thanks, I was just asking since I'm facinated by car camping in an ev

[@DG-uv3zw]

@@sverreytterdal7167 Well thats a different requirement then :) heat pump is more efficient when camping...

[@kristofferhamre818]

Why was there a silver model 3 at 4:20? There is only one of those registered in Norway!!! Was that the one and only?

[@kitchendog]

There is a silver or grey model 3 in Mandal. Import car! A cardealer in Mandal imports lots of ev's, so I guess it is bought there.

[@kristofferhamre818]

@@kitchendog Yeah, isnt it a USA model of the model 3. With the North American plug, so that it cant Supercharge. Theres 2 of those in Norway, one silver and one blue.

[@kitchendog]

@@kristofferhamre818 I don't know to much about Tesla, I only saw it when I was out walking. And my brother said that you can't get them in that color here. So we got closer to see if it had been wrapped. That was not the case.

[@kristofferhamre818]

@@kitchendog Very cool, not often you see one if those two in the wild. The blue one is for sale on Finn. Good observation by your brother😁

[@istvannagy1200]

You should try with Kona.

[@DG-uv3zw]

With Kona is easy...

[@kjh789az]

@ 11.31 its 56 minutes to 80 per cent, not 1hr 45 according to GOM. Just sayin;.Good test. Thanks!

[@michielmd76]

Great vid!!

[@kristofferandrelangeli3764]

Har langlysene forbedret seg fra den gamle ioniqen?

[@bjornnyland]

They are ok but not as good as some other cars.

[@NateR227]

Great review!!

[@electriceagle8737]

New test, the Geilo test let’s do it!!

[@EngineeringEssentials]

It is efficient than model 3 not because of heat pump, because of smaller motor

[@bjornnyland]

The PM motor in Model 3 is very efficient as well.

[@senordockman1138]

Way to slow charging, but that car is efficient. Tesla for the win!

[@khamphengphommaha4254]

Don’t you have a plan to do the thrips around Europe in next time with EV car? I think it will be interesting to see if it is possible with charging station in each country..

[@bjornnyland]

Already done it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKrIqWCbrcSXrZY kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKfXeGhqmKxnY9k

[@bigjobby11]

Like a Ninja, awesome, great vid keep up the good work😊😊😊👍👍👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@simonleslie3775]

Can the AC be turned on with the car not plugged into a charger

[@DerBlauzahn]

yes

[@simonleslie3775]

@@DerBlauzahnThanks, remote app is a long waited improvement. I hope Hyundai can do something about the charge speed

[@BillB33525]

On East Coast US gasoline is around $2.50 Gallon. That's why not many are interested in moving to EVs.

[@edgarclark6541]

That's why ioniq is becoming Singaporean taxi, super efficient

[@briise]

now is gasprices 27 nok :-)