Black Guard, Debatably Raven Guard. Objectively Hilarious | Warhammer 40k Space Marine Lore

[@brastionskywarrior6951]

“If a tree falls in the forest and noone is left alive to remember it then it didn’t make a sound” -black guard proverb

[@redlegpainting4022]

Of course they are stealthy. All the artillery and sieging is going to give their foes tinnitus. Easy to sneak up on someone who is only hearing “reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee”

[@glueboy]

"Damn you tinnitus, you're a cruel mistress."

[@Im-No-body]

Black guard be like, if there is no witnesses then who is to say we weren't quiet

[@golemofgaming156]

This is my metal gear solid style 🤷‍♂️

[@SansSentiments]

@@golemofgaming156 very similiar to my hitman 3 playstyle. no witnesses, also no survivors.

[@Artemisarrowzz]

Learning from the Carcharodons I see

[@glueboy]

​@SansSentiments I was picking up Hitman World of Assassination speedrunning and I had exactly that in my mind. Which all the tech is only described as making so much noise you're more stealthy than the normal game.

[@bbbbKeJodddd]

It's said that after a fight with the Black Guard, that in the center of the crater that was once...something, a single, pristine piece of parchment is found reading: "The Black Guard weren't here."

[@the98themperoroftheholybri33]

Mantis Warriors are also another stealthy chapter. They'll adopt camo appropriate for their environment, and rely on traps and ambushes (just like irl mantis bugs)

[@josephzemanek3953]

This was awesome, I love learning more about the lesser-known successor chapters. A successor that I think you may find interesting is the Howling Griffons, I've always been drawn to them and there's a decent amount of lore considering they participated in the Badab War.

[@zombi3brosnanxx]

The Blackguard really are the embodiment of the phrase, "No one will notice if there is no one to notice." Not sure if you did a video on them or have looked into them already but you might like the Silver Templars. They form special bonds with the machine spirits of their weapons and dedicate themselves to using it to perfection

[@WaltzActual]

The Black Guard, grid square warfare

[@Dootteh318]

My headcanon for the geneseed malfunction: They no longer have the emo swoosh like Big Daddy Crow. They all have Jheri Curls like the Soul Glo commercials in "Coming To America"

[@alannatherson7721]

I feel like there could be a whole fifty part series on Space Marine Chapters/Chaos Space Marine Warbands that sound cool as all get out from the one mention they have and then never get brought up ever again.

[@dr.stronk9857]

Everything on the battle field will be so loud you won’t see the guy with a rocket launcher standing behind you

[@TheCeekon]

obligatory mention of the Charnel guard. new to the channel but I am of the mind these b0iz need more love. Zombie Blood angels who nap all day but also have a metric fuckton of old heresy era gear

[@Yacovo]

When the seige weapon emerges from behind a street light. Thanks for the video.

[@toniviskari417]

By the way, on the topic on WH40K introducing cool elements and then not doing anything with them, have you already come across The Anchorite? As that one actually makes me laugh. The book in which the character is introduced is incredibly dope, though, and somehow manages to be the best Imperial Fist, Ravenguard, White Scars and Word Bearers book I've read so far. Like for each indivdiual chapter that is their best book for me.

[@glueboy]

I have heard some good things about the Anchorite. I've been meaning to give that a look through honestly lol. The concept for it is a fantastic one. But knowing its something they definitely hard dropped is gonna be sad lol

[@toniviskari417]

@@glueboy Even the writer of the book said that he was surprised how well it sold considering that it was meant to just be an one-off book with no consequences for the larger world. Which is absolutely wild considering what it establishes the Ancorite as.

[@WompWompMcStomp]

Ok cool/dumb successor chapters: Mortifactors because they're ultramarines successors but are obsessed with death, are all cannibals and do blood rituals, one time they left the lamenters to die cuz the blood told them to. Death Specters are ALSO obsessed with death but are Raven Guard sucessors and their homeworld is a massive graveyard where it is always snowing and their chapter master sits on a glass throne beneath the crust of the planet holding back something (???) until he rots away and dies. Dark Krakens are Salamander successors who fuck with water more than fire and live on a planet where they kill sea monsters All solid

[@Sharksvsnids]

They have such terrible ptsd from what happened to them at istvaan their whole strategy is to just use those same tactics against everyone they fight forevermore....

[@cameronpoupard9966]

Fuck ye… excuse me Heck Yeah glueboy Saturday?!?!

[@justinbell7309]

If I may suggest: Legion of the Damned They are suspected to be the lost Fire Hawks Ultramarine chapter, who, after getting lost in the Warp, seem to be displaced from time. At the cost of their bodies slowly decaying from the Warp, they have gained the ability to just show up-past, present, or future-at any moment to turn the tide of battle in the Imperium's favor.

[@justinbell7309]

They basically do the "cavalry arrives" thing, stepping out of a Warp portal onto the losing battle, turning the tide of battle strategically, and then just leaving without a word.

[@glueboy]

I actually have a top 5 video with the Legion of the Damned I made a good bit ago. But theres a solid chance I might revist. I gotta see if theres more info I can put together for them.

[@justinbell7309]

​@glueboy If you haven't heard it, check out the short horror story Perdition's Flame. Slight spoiler, but it establishes an interesting dynamic between the Ordo Chronos of the Inquisition and the Legion of the Damned.

[@justinbell7309]

​@@glueboyCuz a detail you missed is that they may be able to time travel

[@Mecha_phant0m]

Coolest (non founding) chapters off the top of my head: the exorcists - demon hunting experts who as part of there proper initiation must allow themselves to become possessed by a chaos demon and then through there own force of will expel it from themselves. The black dragons - heavily mutated loyalists from the cursed founding who have this mutation that causes there bones to grow into these protruding spikes that they use as rending claws. The iron snakes - they are a chapter who my enjoyment of them comes from the incredibly in-depth and thoughtful culture that the marines practice in honoring there homeworld and there ties to its seas.

[@glueboy]

I adore the Exorcists and Black Dragons. I havent heard of the Iron Snakes but I certainly want to now. That sounds sick.

[@GeoffryGifari]

If the 3 "talons" are stealth, ambush, and vigilance, does each of the Raven Guard successor chapters maxx out each aspect? don't know if that's so but its a pattern

[@glueboy]

Depends? Thats usually how known decended successor chapters work. Take a trait, specialize harder, and run wild. Raven Guard are a bit all over the place tbh from what I keep reading. I keep finding some that just hard dropped the path of shadow honestly.

[@robertflynn4215]

You will like the death spectres they are created during 13th cursed founding and is also a raven guard my favorite loyalist space marine legion and primarch.

[@PandorasFolly]

Great video. These guys are hilarious My favorite chapter and "My Guys" are The Sons of Antaeus". A cursed founding chapter from the 21st space marine founding. They are probably the only one of that founding that hasnt had a major problem, lamenters for example. Remember they were released waaay before primaris and uaed to special codex like rules to give them an extra toughness and strength. Their schtick They big. No no. They BIIIIIG. Described as bigger out of armor as other marines in armor They show up all of them whole chapter at once. They take crazy amounts of damage thay would kill a normal marine They politely nod and leave. Mysterious. Gray paint scheme, no official paint scheme Named after Antaeus an enemy of Hercules who could not be defeated as long as his feet touched the ground Antaeus is the son of of Gaia and Poseidon Antaeus means "enemy", so Son of the enemy. Also if read the wiki of Antaeus you'll find a ton of allusions to the giant bones, names that have to to with the Rebel Legions and primarchs, and things in 3. Officially they are an ultramarine successor. "Nobody liked that." Most popular Fan theories are they are either a early release of Primaris by cawl or they are death guard related. Mostly due to how much damage they can take and how big they are. But death guard didn't get that toughness till after he fell. And the Sons sent members to the death watch for millennia, so medical personnel would have noticed extra Primaris organs. My theory is they are made using Alpha Legion gene seed. Specifically Alpha Legion gene seed captured or "supplied by" the Alpha Legion that has been tinkerer with using the findings of Corvus Corax's sabotaged raptor poject. My thought process is GW is not subtle. Sneaky and mysterious, Greek theme, Poseidon scales and serpents, Sons of the enemy, and whatever improvements they have are undetectable. Another option is in the same irl texts that explain the 21st founding they also talk about Mechanicus archeotek teams finding a lab related to it that was working on the Homo Sapien Novus project. So maybe they pull from that stock of genetically engineered people or their gene seed was developed in genetically engineered gene slaves. My other pet theories are Cawl just said fuck it and had the recruit from a population of "proto ogryn" and that's why they big bois. Another option I have thought of is maybe their process has some old Thunder Warriors "Mega Steroids" mixed into the process.

[@MasterShaper]

I find the choice of words. "They leave all of this stuff on the table," very funny. Like yeah they leave it in the literal table the table top. For people to make cool stories with these morsels of fluff.

[@Wolf37f]

If Asmon ever cleaned his room it would be .ore viral than a Mr. Beast hiding peeds vid.

[@Frosty4427]

I think I need a custom vindicator for my Deathwatch now

[@glueboy]

I got a small heavy gunner squad I'm gonna paint as Black Guard. If I ever get a Vindicator or Thunderstrike Cannon I'm gonna do the same lmao.

[@toniviskari417]

On the successor chapter suggestions, I'll throw Wolfspear there because their lore somehow manages to be both very recent and utterly contradictory mess. Yet, being the sons of Russ, they still are incredibly dope.

[@glueboy]

I'm slapping that on my list. I'm very unfamiliar with Space Wolf successors

[@toniviskari417]

@@glueboy There's a good reason for that as there hasn't been that much of them in the canon outside the names. Although it seems like every single author picked Wolfspear as the one they would feature without checking what others were doing. To say the end result is messy is putting it lightly, but they are fun.

[@glueboy]

... Ah. Yeah that'll do it. Thats gonna be really fun to delve into lmao. Some of my favorite subjects for these videos is when its just heaps of contradicting lore. Peak 40k.

[@toniviskari417]

@@glueboy I almost wrote something about the contradiction, but I'll instead allow you to joy of trying to comprehend what happened for yourself. Trust me, considering how new the successor Chapter is, this is next level 40k.

[@reallybig4868]

I never see replies but I’m here for your passionate approach. Reminds me of early bones40k where everything is amazement

[@WompWompMcStomp]

You would also really like the Mantis Warriors, I also got a feeling you'd go for the Exorcists or Star Phantoms. Also really cool

[@glueboy]

I adore the Exorcists. I'll look into those other two though!

[@thatoneguy5856]

Stealth vs Slavic stealth

[@TheRealMycanthrope]

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be a prick, I'm not fatphobic, nor a gingerist, but my first thought upon laying eyes on you was, "DJ Peach Coblarge" 😂 Cool video, never heard of the Black Guard before but damn these guys are wild lmao.

[@talscorner3696]

PTSDNA, I guess? XD

[@TSInfiMa-r6z]

Nice.

[@ScottAT]

Black white and red all over ….

[@miladtaleghani234]

Well its the 41st millenium... u have no idea what stealth means by that time 😉

[@GeoffryGifari]

If their main method is ambush, do they have the gear to set up traps?

[@glueboy]

Nah just big gun

[@slugrunner874]

alright these guys are based

[@GeoffryGifari]

Sounds silly, but if they're the Black Guard, why is the paint mostly white? especially considering they're from the Raven Guard

[@temp3608]

Why is the entire first company of the DARK angels bone white? Why are the Emperors Children actually Fulgrims Children, why do we have MK8 and MK10 armor but not MK9 armor?

[@glueboy]

Successor chapter paint schemes have nothing really to do with what chapter they hail from. Its really nothing deeper than a Games Workshop employee thought this toy would look nice blue or something lol.

[@glueboy]

​@@temp3608Could have used all that space to just answer the question instead of going full reddit there lmao

[@temp3608]

@@glueboy :/ Well I'm sorry you completely missed that the point was that there is no answer. Welcome to Warhammer it never makes sense, the storm giants are salamanders successors and have the color scheme of the white scars. The blood ravens have precisely nothing to do with blood angels or blood in general. Also no matter how much I try I cannot pack what I'm trying to say into small messages idk why. Words are too long, it just doesn't make sense when its short.

[@the98themperoroftheholybri33]

You do understand they leave stuff vague and leave gaps in lore deliberately sometimes so people can create their own characters and veterans right? We don't require every little facet to be explained, this isn't that sort of universe

[@glueboy]

Oh yeah don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of that style of universe. Just speaking as an outsider that feels more Wookipedia Star Wars. Where we got the serial number for every droid or expanded storylines for the dude selling drugs in ep 2. I'll forever be disappointed though when I see the coolest name ever then click and see no paint scheme and nothing more than a name lol. Not even for lore! I'm working on a project to paint squads of cool expanded chapters/factions. So the more the better imo.

[@the98themperoroftheholybri33]

@glueboy well often successors will follow their parent chapter's traditions, or be based in them. Perhaps you could look into the heresy and get a general vibe for stuff like that

[@RecoveringLoLAddict]

Hideous color scheme. It's like a White Scar damaged his arms and helmet and had to steal from a Raven Guard's corpse to repair.