Black Magic Pocket Cinema 6k vs. RED Weapon 6k

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@mellamoakshay
@mellamoakshay 5 жыл бұрын
The fact that both these cameras are being compared head on concidering their price difference is already a very big compliment for Blackmagic!
@yuvrajwadhwani
@yuvrajwadhwani 5 жыл бұрын
Yup. The price alone should get blackmagic 5 points.
@itsjantore
@itsjantore 5 жыл бұрын
I was about to write this. The fact that you can get within probably 90% at that price, is ridiculous.
@Leprutz
@Leprutz 5 жыл бұрын
BMPCC is the clear winner here. You can make a 50 million dollar budget movie with a BMPCC6K and you automatically spend a few million bucks less cause most Red Cameras are being rented at such crazy prizes, when you buy the gear for the BMPCC6K you can spend the rest of the money on more shooting days or as a security cussion for something else. Of course dynamic range does a lot. And there is a huge difference but this is why most high budget production use Arri instead of even the Red cause it s not even on par with the Arri. I do not like the red dragon it is bulky, it is user unfriendly and actually you cannot shoot with it at 50K cause only the body. With BMPCC you spend a max of 4K for the body and a few lenses and you are good to go as a camera operator. for low and even some higher budget productions. Fuck the Red Camera.
@bighands69
@bighands69 3 жыл бұрын
If you are an amatuer or film student then the cheaper Camera would be a great options but for a full scale film production it is a different matter.
@raredreamfootage
@raredreamfootage 5 жыл бұрын
4:36 - Technically the BMPCC6K should win on the monitor because the Red doesn't have a built-in LCD, you had to buy it separately. You could also buy a monitor separately for the BMPCC6K that is much better than the Red's.
@automonk1676
@automonk1676 5 жыл бұрын
Very true.
@votetealindependents9
@votetealindependents9 5 жыл бұрын
The new Blackmagic Video Assist is the best monitor. They also forgot the pocket 6k comes with the best video editing software Davinci Resolve Studio FREE.
@JakeWeisler
@JakeWeisler 5 жыл бұрын
technically yah
@stealthstar4
@stealthstar4 5 жыл бұрын
It's his camera, ain't no WAY he would let the bmpcc win. BMPCC definitely wins. The price, it comes with the editing program when you buy the camera, and it competes with Hollywood cameras. I understand that the RED is your camera but, it lost. People ain't walking around with $80,000. You said $50,000 in video, but I know all the attachments that comes with it and it isn't no $50,000 in total. That is just for the BODY! No screen, no, nothing!
@jaox2104
@jaox2104 5 жыл бұрын
Bias
@gamerpoets
@gamerpoets 5 жыл бұрын
Just a little personal notation (for the record i love watching parker). RED doesnt have a monitor so RED wins the monitor point. BMPCC can survive being dropped but RED cant so RED gets the durability point. BRAW cant be used in premiere out of the box (but it can). Post and Grading were equal but personal habits made RED workflow easier so RED gets a point. BRAW file sizes are smaller but call it a draw. Can buy 20 bpmcc 6ks for the price of 1 red. Gentlemen, based on this video it looks like blackmagic destroys red in value.
@anh456
@anh456 5 жыл бұрын
GamerPoets yes!
@IlyaZorin
@IlyaZorin 5 жыл бұрын
Agree. It was stupid how they add score. How this camera can win over all if u have to pay so much money? Are we talking about budget? So person with BMPC6K can buy full set of sound, lights and probably ronin for it. Common ; =)
@davidgriffin79
@davidgriffin79 5 жыл бұрын
These people are not pros; but they'd like to think they are.
@jamesmathews243
@jamesmathews243 4 жыл бұрын
I see three people deluding themselves here... finding justification for why they spent $47,500 for a negligible image quality increase which is totally lost in KZbin compression. They could've bought a brand new RAM Power Wagon with the difference. But what do I know, I'm just a businessman.
@gamerpoets
@gamerpoets 4 жыл бұрын
I actually felt confident in buying a bmpcc 6k thanks to this vid. I have a long way to go to get better at using it and color grading (1st time ever using a real camera) but it has been great for my needs.
@backlightmedia1628
@backlightmedia1628 5 жыл бұрын
Hold up hold up. You compared the black Magic’s built in screen with a screen that you need to purchase separate with the red? The clear winner is the bmpcc in that category. And you do know black magic design have their own external monitors for these cameras?
@Bazzie_B
@Bazzie_B 5 жыл бұрын
The same can be said with the Reds battery. That is an addon and correct me if I am wrong but the side control mount for the red has a small battery that only last about 20-30 minutes if that. You most always have to use a v-mount battery (brick) or REd XL
@TimoKanal
@TimoKanal 5 жыл бұрын
You're so right. That was a stupid comparison, or at least stupid to give the point to the Red in that category.
@backlightmedia1628
@backlightmedia1628 5 жыл бұрын
Basil Lewis yeah I didn’t think the red came out of the box with a battery. But you can’t expect too much out of a review that’s done by youtubers, they usually butcher the reviews when they pick up cameras designed for film. And colour grading in premier was cringeworthy They need to stick too mirrorless and DSLR reviews.
@KAREKINFPV
@KAREKINFPV 5 жыл бұрын
@@backlightmedia1628 Truth!
@jnfe
@jnfe 4 жыл бұрын
Can you swivel the BM screen? If not, that would seem to be a hindrance in certain shots as well as a nightmare with glare in some situations. I'd rather versatile positioning with my monitors. Also, if you add an additional monitor to BM then your battery will last probably 6 minutes.
@judeokunvideo
@judeokunvideo 5 жыл бұрын
All I see is bias towards the $50k camera. For its price the BMPCC 6K punches WAY ABOVE ITS WEIGHT. All the BMPCC 6K's 'loses' are easily remedied bar the dynamic range and frame rates. Battery - everyone in their right mind is going to hook it up to a vmount or external source, the LP-E6 is a bonus imo Crop factor - LucAdapter turning it near full frame soon. (optional i know) Post workflow - Davinci resolve is a recognised color grading software used by professionals comes free with Black Magic. BRAW now supported in Adobe Premiere Pro natively, runs smooth af. looks more like a 8-8 draw to me at least. I just think it doesn't sit well with people's egos that a camera so small and affordable is so close to the RED, hence why the unfair bias. Dynamic range and frame rates isn't enough to call it a 'clear winner' or the $47k plus price difference. But hey, maybe i'm wrong, just my two cents
@DaaaamTweets
@DaaaamTweets 5 жыл бұрын
Jude Okun Do you think the Blackmagic will be fair for Wedding Videography?
@lunapictures7989
@lunapictures7989 5 жыл бұрын
Q For weddings there is a need for a fast and reliable autofocus which blackmagic unfortunately does not have. I was using for the most part Sony a6300 but now it's a bit outdated so you should maybe consider Sony a6400 (or Sony a7iii). It has one of the best autofocus and if you go with a7iii you have also one of the best low light capabilities. I would also say that Canon could be good but in this price point I can't really recommend any of their cameras. But if you were using manual focus for weddings before and it worked blackmagic should be amazing due to image quality but honestly I would go with something with worse IQ but great af cuz IQ and sharpness doesn't matter if the subject is out of focus. Hope it helped a little bit ;) have a nice day
@landonbtw
@landonbtw 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with a lot the points you made! Genuinely super impressed with the BM.. absolutely nothing against it. Just a fun comparison, you can't take it too seriously! Thanks for your input, man!
@GabrielGarcia-pg1pi
@GabrielGarcia-pg1pi 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, this video is totally bias for the Red camera... I don´t know why....
@anh456
@anh456 5 жыл бұрын
Jude Okun totally agree!
@makilex
@makilex 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are pushing it. Blackmagic wins by a mile for the price. Only way people would use the RED is for proper budget film crews where I would personally go with an Alexa instead of the overpriced RED 😁
@David-ud9ju
@David-ud9ju 4 жыл бұрын
Hollywood would seem to agree with you on that.
@raymichl375
@raymichl375 4 жыл бұрын
alexa is more expensive than RED and there isn't a better camera they just have different color science. BMPCC6k def wins for price but do not ignorantly say the red is overpriced and the alexa is more quality because that just isn't true. its all about perspective and what your filming.
@mitchwinters864
@mitchwinters864 4 жыл бұрын
Meh... both paid Netflix enough to be approved??? What a crock...
@giraffevideoproduction8045
@giraffevideoproduction8045 4 жыл бұрын
I agree completely. Why do you think the best movies of our modern day use Alexa ARRI, like the movie, "1917." Still, the Blackmagic is more within MY price range, lol. I can only dream of the Alexa ARRI, and could only wish I had a RED.
@mohammadtowfiq6946
@mohammadtowfiq6946 4 жыл бұрын
Alexa is more costly than red
@reshaad_97
@reshaad_97 5 жыл бұрын
Buying a thousand dollar adapter is a plus for red - buying 30 dollars for editing is a drawback !
@ephektz
@ephektz 4 жыл бұрын
Yea, these guys are complete tools.
@reshaad_97
@reshaad_97 4 жыл бұрын
@@ephektz I was and still shocked by that guy's opinion ;)
@memcrew1
@memcrew1 4 жыл бұрын
ephektz 😂
@Asavibenews
@Asavibenews 4 жыл бұрын
clueless people
@smoy4102
@smoy4102 5 жыл бұрын
If you buy the Black Magic you get Davinci Resolve with it for free to edit and have even better colorgrading
@sandros94
@sandros94 5 жыл бұрын
premiere pro not color managed *coff* *coff*
@YoungBlaze
@YoungBlaze 5 жыл бұрын
@@sandros94 but black magic just released a free plugin for premiere so you can now put it directly into premiere vs Davinci
@KAREKINFPV
@KAREKINFPV 5 жыл бұрын
@@sandros94 Agree, Color Managed is the the SHIT!
@jamesCamali
@jamesCamali 5 жыл бұрын
Also a pretty decent editing software
@neuroadvancementnextlevelp461
@neuroadvancementnextlevelp461 4 жыл бұрын
Is that the studio version of davinci?
@crazewizard
@crazewizard 5 жыл бұрын
I feel a strong bias idea about the red. Technically in multiple categories the black magic wins literally
@osah8477
@osah8477 Жыл бұрын
Yup! :D
@Zetura
@Zetura 5 жыл бұрын
I don't see why you gave the LCD screen point to the RED. It's an external monitor worth thousands ! You could also plug a similar screen on the BlackMagic for the price. The BlackMagic should have the point for having an included monitor VS no monitor at all. Which brings the final result : RED 8 Vs BlackMagic 7. (Also I would give the image quality to both, so more 8 to 8 xD) Anyway, I don't have the money for the BM so... XD
@dkkeyz8815
@dkkeyz8815 5 жыл бұрын
I think it’s more fair to say “Adobe requires you to buy/download.... in order to edit the the BlackMagic” you could always edit in BlackMagic’s own software Davinci Resolve.
@RandyRockGCF
@RandyRockGCF Жыл бұрын
Also, the plug-in is free, and takes a whole 60 seconds to download and install. It's a non-issue. I sold my RED Epic MX for Blackmagic and I would never buy RED again. RED just charges you for their name.
@TimoKanal
@TimoKanal 5 жыл бұрын
That feeling when you compare a $2.5k 'Pocket' camera to a $50k RED and it holds up just fine. Black Magic is doing amazing things for the videography world.
@sadworldwide
@sadworldwide 5 жыл бұрын
$50k is what they charge, its not worth $50k. The cost of making the camera are probably significantly lower like $5k and they are making crazy margins just cause they can.
@intensitydigital
@intensitydigital 4 жыл бұрын
@@sadworldwide yea but manufacturing isn't the only cost. It's a niche product that isn't going to move millions of units but you still have to pay support staff, marketing teams, and R&D teams. Also their quality control is top notch . Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the margins are high but I'm not sure if they are as ludicrous as you'd imagine.
@intensitydigital
@intensitydigital 4 жыл бұрын
@OLDSKOOL978 thanks for correcting me. I've never personally used one I just know people that gush about them constantly
@LinusSchneider
@LinusSchneider 5 жыл бұрын
Blackmagic releases one insanely-spect camera after another. This Image Quality for the price point of 2,5k was just never seen since now. Really love this company! Also thanks for the awesome vid!
@SamuelObafemi
@SamuelObafemi 5 жыл бұрын
You are so correct! It's amazing how BlackMagic comes up with these cameras!
@SamuelObafemi
@SamuelObafemi 5 жыл бұрын
@PRIVATE that is so true!!!!
@kbasemuzik
@kbasemuzik 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone keeps forgetting that Panasonic started it with the gh5 and gh5s thanks to them we can get these good cameras at these prices
@carriagel8773
@carriagel8773 5 жыл бұрын
@@kbasemuzik gh4 started that, ithink
@formoftherapy
@formoftherapy 3 жыл бұрын
I liked A, but the differences were...well, not too big. Actually surprised how little difference there was
@RyonRykal
@RyonRykal 5 жыл бұрын
Blackmagic 6k is by far the better camera. Because of the price. The viewer of your content will not notice any difference anyways. When you say, that you need to spend 1-2 thousand dollar for additional equipment, you are showing a CFast card. You could just use an external hard drive for way less money. (The only thing that will not record, is the lowest Blackmagic RAW compression. As far as I know.)
@xpodx
@xpodx 5 жыл бұрын
Better doesnt mean cheaper. Better is how advanced, better sensor, image overall.
@Onyeakak
@Onyeakak 5 жыл бұрын
BRaw can be edited in Premiere Pro now for free with the new Blackmagic Raw 1.5 update that Blackmagic Design released earlier this month.
@mrshaheedmalik
@mrshaheedmalik 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info.
@pgtips4240
@pgtips4240 5 жыл бұрын
After checking out the cost of your courses, I think I will just teach myself.🙂
@llIlllllIll
@llIlllllIll 5 жыл бұрын
I would rather buy 20 blackmagics than one red...
@kylosalvesen
@kylosalvesen 5 жыл бұрын
6K Matrix bullet-time effect
@naveengandhi7587
@naveengandhi7587 5 жыл бұрын
Then im you must be a KZbinr 😊
@mikehoffman1820
@mikehoffman1820 5 жыл бұрын
That would be a mistake if you are delivering professionally or do real shoots with sync boxes...smart slates... Wireless setups. Etc. Though the Ursa Mini G2 may be okay.
@shawnmiller8169
@shawnmiller8169 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikehoffman1820 The P4k and P6k cameras write file timecode via the minijack input... so sync generators and smart slates work just fine with these devices :-)
@randomusername852
@randomusername852 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikehoffman1820 you can deliver professionally with pretty much any camera.. you don't need a $50,000 to shoot a professional video. On that same point, you can have a $50,000 camera and shoot horrible videos. It's about how you shoot, not what you're using.
@pglazzari1
@pglazzari1 5 жыл бұрын
Davinci Resolve Davinci Resolve not even mentioned. Red is nice but super expensive. BM for price point.
@Suburban_Pantsula
@Suburban_Pantsula 5 жыл бұрын
Blackmagic really lived up to the hype with this camera
@storm91229
@storm91229 5 жыл бұрын
😲😲😲😲😲My reaction upon your reveal! Plus Adobe just added support for BlackMagic RAW. You owe BlackMagic some points😉😉😉☺
5 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who thinks if BMPCC has decent continuous autofocus as Canon’s, BMPCC will be the beast that no camera can even be compared?
@geariebowman5034
@geariebowman5034 5 жыл бұрын
Leiki Ueda I totally agree. They would rule
@elissitdesign
@elissitdesign 4 жыл бұрын
I wish they’d add continuous auto focus. I wouldn’t use it much but it’s definitely needed sometimes.
@matthewsuhanec73
@matthewsuhanec73 4 жыл бұрын
Auto focus? That would mean they would need to develop it... which will increase the cost which will mean more development better hardware more software more interface more more more... then after three versions of refining it people will be happy about the auto focus but not the cost of the camera... ha
@adraskovic
@adraskovic 3 жыл бұрын
Coming soon ;) Not from Blackmagic Design though. www.newsshooter.com/2020/08/18/bmpcc-continuous-autofocus-with-cda-tek-afx-module/
3 жыл бұрын
@@adraskovic That looks very promising tbh!
@tjmarx
@tjmarx 4 жыл бұрын
What was this video? The footage from these cameras was so close to each other that I originally thought B camera was the Red. Your scoring was bogus finding ways to give it to the red that it simply didn't deserve, probably because Parker didn't want to feel like he wasted $50K on a camera that can be beaten by a $2500 one. I mean, why even have a scoring system and try to declare a winner? What's the point to that in a comparison video like this if your aim is genuinely to so what the BBMP6K can do? This was a truly weird video
@TochSticksMusic
@TochSticksMusic Жыл бұрын
While watching the footage of the duo, I chose the one beneath. Was quite surprised to see that it was the blackmagic! Amazing!
@tptrsn
@tptrsn 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, thank you!! I have to say, before I knew which was which, I preferred the Pocket 6K footage more often than the RED. Very much appreciated!
@plastique45
@plastique45 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously, the BM has better image quality than the Red, I'm truly shocked.
@he.smile_
@he.smile_ 5 жыл бұрын
Post-Production is a win for Blackmagic Magic!
@danielclarke9749
@danielclarke9749 5 жыл бұрын
You should put the 1dx mark ii up against the Pocket cinema 6k
@RohitNaik
@RohitNaik 5 жыл бұрын
1dx will fail so they wont make a comparison :D
@hectoralfaroreyes1428
@hectoralfaroreyes1428 5 жыл бұрын
fucking idiot
@jakejames1591
@jakejames1591 5 жыл бұрын
Yep. The 13.5 stops on a 1DX doesn’t hold up next to the p6k. Impossible.
@africanhistory
@africanhistory 5 жыл бұрын
@@jakejames1591 So is this the only feature you need to make quality films? So let me give you the pocket and I take the 1D and that means you will come back the winner? Is that what you are saying? Think you missing a lot about what this thing is about. Dynamic range is just what Bokeh was a few years ago. Something novice talk too damn much about.
@jakejames1591
@jakejames1591 5 жыл бұрын
AHS Society calm down, bro. I’m just making a statement. He clearly says “it’s the same as 1DX II” in the video and I’m just disagreeing. Geez. Lol. For me, the p4k/p6k is the superior camera for video for tons of reasons.
@davidmultimedia2024
@davidmultimedia2024 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review! Although, i wouldn’t recommend the Atomos Ninja V as the perfect monitor choice to pair with it. The Atomos Shinobi is way better suited to the Pocket camera since it doesn’t need the recording capability that the Ninja V provides. It is way lighter (with better weight distribution), way cheaper, and very silent (compared to the Ninja V that has noisy fans)
@daltonrandall4348
@daltonrandall4348 5 жыл бұрын
"All of the components that RED makes are professional grade..." These guys haven't been paying much attention lately, have they?
@ikonmediafilms
@ikonmediafilms 5 жыл бұрын
Dalton Randall i was thinking the same thing one word ... jinnimag
@definitionxmk
@definitionxmk 5 жыл бұрын
lol, i know right? Honestly, if this video was a fully decked out BMPCC 6k vs that decked out RED camera they have... it should have gone a different way. Also the addition of Resolve is a pretty big deal. The camera files haven't been optimized fully yet, I mean, it just came out! So yeah...
@Leprutz
@Leprutz 5 жыл бұрын
@@definitionxmk plus... nobody actually quite realizes that the BMPCC is just a fucking prototype. They are only startign with and seeing what people say about it and can do with it. If they listen to their clients and keep improving things as they usually do, Black Magic might overrun the market very soon. It is actually amazing what they have done. Only thing I am not sure it will perform great and no one is talking about is how well it performs in differetn weather and harsh temperature conditions. I say this cause even the Camcorders aren't really a thing anymore, they are built to last longer on shoots and on high as well as low temperatures which no one talks about. Whereas mirorrless cameras don't perform very well, they overheat fast and stop. and at very low temperatures they stop reacting. Which obviously what high end pro cameras are for in the end. Hence the price and the production. BMPCC and mirrorles and dslrs are more meant for the most normal environments.
@landonbtw
@landonbtw 5 жыл бұрын
Haha we just gave RED the benefit of the doubt... but yes, we're aware of the hate that REDs been getting
@daltonrandall4348
@daltonrandall4348 5 жыл бұрын
@@landonbtw The well deserved hate*
@stevegek
@stevegek 4 жыл бұрын
Apart from the external screen point, the Blackmagic's carbon-fibre reinforced material is not only strong, it absorbs impact better. So it keeps your internals better protected. The RED transfers those impacts. CF reinforced materials are incredibly strong. I 3D printed some parts and had it tested... it's incredible. BM is the winner for me.
@ikonmediafilms
@ikonmediafilms 5 жыл бұрын
The BMPCC is a professional camera and not prosumer, Grant petty said this over and over again. Monitoring, the bmpcc monitor is ver color accurate even better that Small HD and Atomos. Wasn’t a balanced comparison. But nice try.
@rjroser202
@rjroser202 5 жыл бұрын
Braw is now supported for free by black magic design by downloading their free plugin directly.
@Ben-id1tc
@Ben-id1tc 5 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, once everything is graded, it won't even matter.
@b3owu1f
@b3owu1f 5 жыл бұрын
Though.. the BM camera operator wont have an achy back, and will have a massive amount more money in the bank.
@silbay
@silbay 3 жыл бұрын
@@b3owu1f and will use the pro Hollywood level software that is included for free which can edit, color grade, and handle audio and final rendering production
@CinemaSteve
@CinemaSteve 5 жыл бұрын
I ended up buying 2 BMPCC 6K for studio work. If you're debating buying this camera, just go and do it. It's worth the $2500. I've used them so much already and holy cow they are incredible workhorses for the price. The color reproduction is top notch and makes coloring in post easy. Plus it's got 4 flavors of ProRes if BRAW isn't your thing. Like Parker said though, it costed another $1000 for a cage and all the cage riggings for each camera. I end up using AC power or v-mount batteries for power since the LP-E6 are such small batteries.
@SamuelObafemi
@SamuelObafemi 5 жыл бұрын
I want to know if you have the following problems and if you do, how you've fixed them. I am seriously considering getting the BMPCC6k so I downloaded some footage from the BlackMagic site to get a feel.of the workflow on DAVINCI resolve. Each time I tried to render the files after grading (or even Render color cache) Davinci resolve crashes. Always. My laptop is the HP Omen 15, 8GB Ram, 1tb HDD +128gb SSD, 4GB Nvidia 1050ti graphics card, and core i5 8th Gen processor. Note that this laptop handled the BMPCC4K raw files smoothly.
@SamuelObafemi
@SamuelObafemi 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you in anticipation.
@CinemaSteve
@CinemaSteve 5 жыл бұрын
@@SamuelObafemi I can't help you out since I'm a Premiere Pro user :/ sorry man! I have no crashes in Premiere with the 6K footage if that helps at all.
@SamuelObafemi
@SamuelObafemi 5 жыл бұрын
@@CinemaSteve ohh wow!! Thank you regardless. I appreciate your speedy response. 😊😊😊
@stephensircar1561
@stephensircar1561 5 жыл бұрын
Red wins the shootout, Blackmagic wins my heart
@hcardosodossantos
@hcardosodossantos 5 жыл бұрын
RED is build to last! thats funny
@TannerRaine
@TannerRaine 4 жыл бұрын
Truthfully, I've never heard of black magic prior to a week ago and, I'm thoroughly impressed.
@CodyPyper
@CodyPyper 5 жыл бұрын
Seeing the camera's on the desk with their sensors exposed the entire video was hard to watch. Prob need to get those cleaned now haha. The BMP6K is beast of a camera though
@spencerwad
@spencerwad 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! I love how cheap really great cameras are getting! Thanks for the review guys!
@gnkstudios6138
@gnkstudios6138 4 жыл бұрын
i dont think i ever seen someone match cameras so well. the footage was virtually identical. job well done. ill save my self $15000 an go with the bmpcc6k
@Frostbeatz
@Frostbeatz 5 жыл бұрын
So you gave red a point for battery life when comparing the XL battery?? What about the regular battery? And the XL battery costs $350 but the LP-E6 costs about $60? Hmmm
@AustinNewman
@AustinNewman 5 жыл бұрын
Sweet, been waiting to see one of these comparisons. Looks like Premiere recently became compatible within BRAW based on a free download from Blackmagic’s site. You can manipulate all the parameters for the BRAW right inside Premiere now - which makes things way easier
@FitnessArab
@FitnessArab 5 жыл бұрын
43 second ❤❤❤ waiting for your videos like series hahah thanks bro
@HakarASMR
@HakarASMR 2 жыл бұрын
We'll soon have insane cinema cameras for less then 5k, tech is just getting better! What is most important thing is lighting, that's what makes it cinematic!
@CinemaEngineer
@CinemaEngineer 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like giving red the point for being more of a professional camera opposed to the prosumer camera isn't quite fair especially considering that historically reds have been pretty unreliable, at Least up until recently when the standardized the brain and made the sensor the only difference. Just a thought
@TarkshyaPictures
@TarkshyaPictures 4 жыл бұрын
please do a comparison video of sony a7siii and Blackmagic pocket 6k
@sandrosamarasinghe3536
@sandrosamarasinghe3536 5 жыл бұрын
I dont even know why im watching this with 10$ in my pocket😐
@vyaschandra8659
@vyaschandra8659 4 жыл бұрын
Because you want to make billion dollar grossing film buddy. 😊👍
@NathanShinholt
@NathanShinholt 5 жыл бұрын
Shot with a videographer at a music festival this weekend who used the BMPCC4K on a Mova Air 2 gimbal. He wore his backpack when getting sizzle B Roll and mounted a large battery to his backpack strap with bongo ties and used that to power his camera all night with no problem. Mounting it to his body meant no added weight to the gimbal setup. Genius.
@kahfibonboy
@kahfibonboy 5 жыл бұрын
next up: "RED 8K monstrous vs canon rebel sl2"
@Human-shapedbeing
@Human-shapedbeing 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the Black footage was the Red the whole time! Thank you for this vid I'm 100% getting the Black Magic now.
@nickverafy
@nickverafy 5 жыл бұрын
None of those cameras have the dynamic range they claim. The Alexa has 14 stops of useable dynamic range and beats the RED by a mile. Typical marketing BS from both companies.
@rafael_quintero
@rafael_quintero 5 жыл бұрын
What’s so awesome about this video is it was very educational. As someone trying to learn videography this video taught me a lot about terms and what everything means. Great video guys and thank you!
@TheInvestmentCircle
@TheInvestmentCircle 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. Why didn’t I watch this before buying my XT3. Black magic is so sick.
@LeeHarris
@LeeHarris 4 жыл бұрын
It is killing me seeing those sensors exposed...
@florentdevier
@florentdevier 5 жыл бұрын
Lot of people (and filmakers) in the comment section are unable to recognise Red from BMPC in the comparison. For the price difference i'd say you can stop the test here. Means your client, and average viewer won't tell neither, and as a producer you will save loooots of money you could invest in lightning, computer, sliders, sound. That will change all the shape of your work. If you are on a big set you'll still rent a RED but if you are a small company/an independent filmaker BMPC just allowed you to do professional work on your own.
@wicashi
@wicashi 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Parker, you should make a test for Canon 90D. Whether people like it or not 80D was the true legend for KZbin. This is really interesting what you think about the new one. Is the 4K from this camera worth money?
@mikaelsant7980
@mikaelsant7980 4 жыл бұрын
I shoot right now with my canon eos R I get really good cinema shots that compare when it comes to 4K quality just not frame rate, black magic and red are both great but the mobility, weight and price on black magic is just amazing
@factorfiction2847
@factorfiction2847 3 жыл бұрын
It is great to demonstrate that the Blackmagic camera can compete with the Red camera for a fraction of the price but many people think the Blackmagic is the end and be all camera. I like that you stated why your camera of choice is the Canon EOS-1D X Mark II.
@real.estate.video.
@real.estate.video. 5 жыл бұрын
RED 16 stops of DR 😂 Oh these kids if they only knew what 13.5 stops means.. the pocket btw holds on more into the highlights than your RED if you knew how to use it. What I found funny was that they concluded the camera wasn’t something they’re going to use because they prefer the DSLR looking footage, ease of use etc etc but that same logic didn’t apply to their RED. What a useless video. The features hat matter significantly are: 1. RED DR 13.5 vs P6K DR 13.2 at ISO 800 with half of a stop more above the middle gray than RED. So a fn tie on this one. 2. Colour depth, both 12 bit. A fn tie again. 3. Resolution, both 6K. You guessed it. Another fn tie. 4. Frame rates, RED does more. RED wins one. 5. Battery life, both need v mounts or smart power solutions. Tie. 6. Portability. P6K wins 7. Gimbal work. P6K wins 8. Pro sound. P6K has xlr in with phantom power out. P6K wins 9. Screen and monitoring. It’s a tie. They’re both good and if you need to spend as much as you spend for a RED monitor, you’d get a better monitor for the P6K. 10. Reliability. P6K wins. No issues with any of them so far and plenty of issues with RED. Don’t even get me started on that one. 11. Price. Well, P6K wins that one by a long mile. 12. Ethics and prestige. BMD wins that one supporting Indy filmmakers by offering some of the most affordable tools for both production and post production. RED on the other hand is lately proven to be deceitful, lying through their teeth, intimidating all to satisfy what seems to be a spectacular greed. So, count the points and see who the winner is.
@BoyXx76
@BoyXx76 5 жыл бұрын
nailed it!
@jacoblattie1411
@jacoblattie1411 4 жыл бұрын
I love how this video is based on the premise that I’m actually considering getting a Red... lol
@pratapshekhaliya2535
@pratapshekhaliya2535 5 жыл бұрын
Black magic cinema camera 6k master Prime lens use please video
@faspwise8163
@faspwise8163 3 жыл бұрын
I have hit my black magic against the floor, but it works fine. do you think it caused any internal damage?
@kristianpierce2963
@kristianpierce2963 4 жыл бұрын
I love how all 3 of your mic setups sound different.
@marcmacaluso2795
@marcmacaluso2795 5 жыл бұрын
1:20 in and im calling it for Red (B). 1:47 I was wrong Black Magic was (B) 😭I feel so dirty
@bludsterbogdim7308
@bludsterbogdim7308 4 жыл бұрын
Sony A7S III is really impressive 😍. I want you to do a review on it as soon as possible.
@nexttvc
@nexttvc 5 жыл бұрын
I normally not comment on this kind of video but here I am just for clear one thing, you people are extremely crazy not just compare but also giving points for each category. 2500 Dollars VS Red Weapon 6K Daily rent approximately 2000 Dollars more or less. You can compare but no logic to give points to each camera who is the winner. Honestly, I was laughing throw all the time you just gave points. I do love your videos but this time you people have done an extremely funny video to watch. Let just make it simple 2500 dollars with included DaVinci Resolve License. ready to shoot RAW at just 170 dollars of External SSD is not just amazing? and forget about the dynamic range or Stops. for Low budget shooters, this is way higher then they will ever wish or dream. Now the value exists only the creative ideas and creative minds how to shot the content. this tool is far superior to the one Hollywood Shoot the First Digital Film on Sony HDW F900 making of Star Wars: Attack of the Clones and the digital revolution that infiltrated Hollywood.
@MultiMam12345
@MultiMam12345 4 жыл бұрын
For the editing and grading part, you could test files from both cameras in Davinci Resolve as well. And then probably dont open up Premiere anymore😁
@danieldougan269
@danieldougan269 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Panasonic GH6 is pretty compelling as well, so that might be worth looking into.
@helpmeunderstand
@helpmeunderstand 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought the BMPCC6K because of this video. Thanks.
@RobertWGreaves
@RobertWGreaves 4 жыл бұрын
As an amateur it is great to know that high quality is affordable. I would not use the red unless I was a busy pro.
@ncMatthan
@ncMatthan Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, I liked the bottom clip more and therefore thought it was the Red. I was then astonished to find out it was actually the Black Magic.
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Good bit of information. I really enjoyed your comparison and definitely like the format you all used.
@HouseOfHoops1
@HouseOfHoops1 5 жыл бұрын
1:45 BEWARE! you might have to spend a whopping $1000-2000 extra to rig up the 6k which brings you too a grand total of under $5000, so consider that when deciding between $5000 or $50,000 shitty Red overrated camera bahahaha. You guys actually have no idea...
@matthewsuhanec73
@matthewsuhanec73 4 жыл бұрын
I am with you... if your so possessed to own a RED I would like to know the reasoning when you can rent it? I have a Sony FS7 and 90% of the time I am using a FS5 because it does it just a good and when on the move it works twice as good cause I don't need to break it down or worry about someone mishandling it.
@Genghussy
@Genghussy 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you they don't know what they're talking
@AllThingsKen
@AllThingsKen 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 6k with a rig and that price is totally wrong lol
@RockerMarcee96
@RockerMarcee96 3 жыл бұрын
more like $500-1000 extra on the BMPCC6k (which is by now only 2 grand instead of 2.5)
@UrbanRevivalMediaPro
@UrbanRevivalMediaPro 3 жыл бұрын
BIG difference in dynamic range means it handles Sunlight much better! For that reason alone worth the money.
@jones3892
@jones3892 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video for those of us just learning about the Magic 6K. I'm curious on anyone's thoughts if 6K would be overkill for KZbin? 4K is probably enough but after watching this video, 6K seems like a better deal long term. I'm also eyeing the new Fuji as a comparison...
@steadygumsteadygum1074
@steadygumsteadygum1074 4 жыл бұрын
The shoulder mount Camera needs Steadygum. If you care about your back and shoulder pains and need Balance and Stability. It takes the weight of the camera off up to 80% You can use SteadyGum in every situation, very quick to set up and take off.
@LoDown295
@LoDown295 2 жыл бұрын
I have the BMPCC 4k and I love it so much! It’s easy, fun and small. I think it would be really cool if RED came out with a more “budget” type of camera that works out kind of like the BMPCC. One day I hope to own a RED but that’s a ways down the road.
@jamesc4411
@jamesc4411 4 жыл бұрын
The URSA Mini Pro will give you the best bang for your buck and a better comparison. Super 35, EF mount, 15 stops dynamic range and all the features on the body for quick work. You won't need more than 4.6K realistically, but you will appreciate the bit depth and higher frame rates.
@fussanchez2716
@fussanchez2716 4 жыл бұрын
I love how Parker is basically a mime throughout the video :P
@StevenCarlsonShow
@StevenCarlsonShow 4 жыл бұрын
Stupid question, but hope you can help. I have heard a lot of negative about the autofocus (lack there of) of the Black Magic 6k, is this mostly a concern if you are using the camera outdoors while shooting moving objections? Or, if in my case, if I place it on a tri-pod would this work as a studio camera without needing a camera-man to operate focus? Would the camera focus properly when I sit down in front of the camera? Thanks :)
@monsterswampstudios
@monsterswampstudios 2 жыл бұрын
I was in absolute awe when it was revealed Red was A when B looked so much better. Red should be shaking in their boots rn.
@ravenshadevox
@ravenshadevox 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video. The Conclusion I've drawn is that the RED is better, but not 20 times better. As a novice looking to get into something more cinematic. I feel that the BMPCC 6K is a damned good tool to learn on.
@foxworthmedia
@foxworthmedia 5 жыл бұрын
U can now edit BRAW in Premiere Pro without the 3rd party plugin. Blackmagic has a free download now that will load right into Premiere Pro.
@neonfishbowlstudios
@neonfishbowlstudios 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a RED in goodwill the the other day and now I have a great doorstop
@joshuadtaft
@joshuadtaft 5 жыл бұрын
If you're running a cage, then use a power junkie with a canon coupler and you can use sony npf batteries which will drastically increase the battery life of the camera.
@awakeningrecordscuracao5369
@awakeningrecordscuracao5369 Жыл бұрын
I actualyy liked the blackmagic footage in the beginning more than the RED I thought that would be the RED for sure!
@nenotech7097
@nenotech7097 3 жыл бұрын
The price kills the comparison, You can buy a (20 BlkMgc Cameras) and shot your footages with 20 angles around surround at the same time 😉
@marcanthonystorm
@marcanthonystorm 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Parker for the review and Kyle and Jake.
@firegoggles
@firegoggles 4 жыл бұрын
B looked more "movie llike" ahahaha! WOW! Glad I seen this before I sold both my cars.... :P
@imabigsandwich1292
@imabigsandwich1292 5 жыл бұрын
8:13 - The 1dx does not have 13.5 stops of dynamic range in video mode, it has only 10, it only have 13.5 stops when shooting raw photos.
@ronineditor9920
@ronineditor9920 5 жыл бұрын
I got a $90 PL-EF adapter on eBay and it actually works for my Cooke Varotal PL lens, on my BMPCC4K.
@bradhouston4734
@bradhouston4734 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys. Quality content, info and production as always! As someone who has allowed themselves to dream and scheme towards feature film making. This camera and what's to come next really excite me! Love your work 😀🕺🏽🎥🏖🇦🇺
@ChrisChevs
@ChrisChevs 5 жыл бұрын
You can use BRAW on Premiere now without paying. Black Magic released it a week ago.
@edwardelric717
@edwardelric717 3 жыл бұрын
In the 1st test, I thought b was the red camera because of how much nicer the footage looked but it was the black magic. I am impressed
@controversylab
@controversylab 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using Blackmagic since they dropped their first cinema camera. The first generation, 1,000 pound URSA. (Exaggeration) All the affordable aspect of the brand is amazing. What their cameras can do is also mind blowing. The one thing that you’ll eventually grow out of though, is the limited range these files have in post. They just begin to fall apart with heavy grades in post. Even if you shoot in BRAW, because their codec isn’t a true RAW format. So it just falls apart in post if you stylize it too much. Their codec has gotten better with their 5th generation color science. But it still can’t be pushed as far as Reds and Alexa. For that reason alone, I’m honestly looking to add either a RED or an Arri to my arsenal. I’ll probably always keep my Blackmagic lineup, but after shooting with the codec for so long, I’m definitely tired of the limitations in post. Interestingly enough, I honestly think that their 444 prores codec from the old 4K URSA, looks better graded, than their BRAW from the BMPCC6k. But using prores 444 you still run into problems with the limitations with the 444 codec in heavy grades. Hence why I think it’s time for me to move on to a RED or Alexa codec. Blackmagic is amazing, and no other camera at that price point can do what it can. But they do have major limitations as it relates to grading when compared to their competitors.
@BrendanEvan
@BrendanEvan 4 жыл бұрын
Very difficult to see any difference on a mobile device that compresses the resolution
@intensitydigital
@intensitydigital 4 жыл бұрын
11:21 did they give red the point just because it has a better reputation? It sounded like they said "we can't tell them apart but red has a better reputation for image quality so they get the point". I couldn't really say because of youtubes compression, but if the editors can't tell a difference in quality wouldn't that mean its a draw?
@rantsinpatwa
@rantsinpatwa 4 жыл бұрын
How does red win lcd when it doesn't have one
@burneshollyman2621
@burneshollyman2621 5 жыл бұрын
On color, if you use Black Magic's DaVinci (free and $300 version), for post, it does WAY superior color correction than Premiere. Most all feature films get color corrected in DaVinci. Need to mention that.
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