Black Swan Explained

[@paulamartinez9861]

I think it ended her innocence, because she "died" in the white swan costume.

[@katiefiore6497]

Paola Martinez that’s what I thought too!

[@musicLOVER15382]

Paola Martinez YES!

[@parthabhattacharya7305]

Yes.... i thought the same too.... Adapting to the black swan (symbol of cruel and alluring ) she killed her actual white swan...the actual nina.... A heart so pure that it couldn't have survived in this cruel world..

[@ekuboo7966]

Did she really died though? I mean physically? I was a little bit confused if it was also he imagining it or it was real, I couldn’t tell

[@harikrishnane.s5611]

She freed from this cruel world

[@michaelvanderhoff5628]

natalie literally looks like a swan, facially. she’s the perfect cast

[@tqtmec4344]

@@sleepyskorpion WAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

[@elkanahseymour7430]

She was an excellent pick and deserves an award for her portrayal !!!!!!!!

[@QianLi-hg5pk]

sleepyskorpion LMFAO! 💀😂

[@stevensilvestro3819]

🤣🤣🤣

[@violatingz3056]

@@elkanahseymour7430 she did, she got an Oscar

[@glenngatlen8179]

I loved the costumes she wears a lot of pink and white in the beginning and then starts wearing darker colors toward the end symbolic of her change from innocent to dark!

[@thalia7104]

There's a colour analysis about this topic, it could be interesting to you! I don't have a link, but you should be able to find it when you search for something like "Black Swan - Colour Analysis of Nina's clothes" (if you're still interested, I know your comment is two years old) 😊.

[@amirasafwat7101]

She didn't die literally. Actually after watching the movie many times and watching explaining videos it just pretty clear to me now that the death scene is that Nina killed her pure personality and she is trying to prove to everyone that she can be black swan and she finally made it. But to think about it the movie is more deeper than I thought it would.

[@georgia9555]

She did died.She saw the white light. Even her mother knew if you saw her in the audience that she was dying. A mother knows.

[@roby2764]

claud 29 I think her mother see the change in her personality like she knew its was no longer her sweet daughter,but she’s not crying because nina is death physically but her personality change she evolve,dies mentally My understanding

[@itsfareeharehman]

@@georgia9555 dude her mother sexually abused her there are many clues in the film

[@crescentsy]

she did die. it wouldn’t make sense if she didn’t since it IS how the actual story goes

[@katherinecruz3849]

@@itsfareeharehman Wow. Could you expand on the clues?

[@aydenmartinez3173]

nina was definitely dealing with a severe case of obsessive compulsive disorder (ocd) as natalie portman said in an interview about this film. you can tell by the constant need for “perfection” and the subtle organization throughout the film. (TW) the bulimia and anorexia is also a sign of ocd (the need to be and look perfect). the self harm (scratching) is another sign of ocd as well, given the anxiety of not being perfect.

[@that_goth_bitch3899]

Umm... As a psychological science major I gotta say I disagree. She didn't seem to show any signs of OCD. She didn't perform any rituals or anything like that. Just because someone may have obsessive behavior does not mean they have OCD and OCD also does not come with any sort of hallucinations. She's suffer from schizophrenia, anorexia nervosa, and bulimia nervosa.

[@haykvardanyan6349]

Anorexia?

[@rockscracked6161]

@@that_goth_bitch3899 are you saying that you cannot have OCD alongside DID/ schizophrenia?

[@louisvuitton4603]

I think bulimia and anorexia comes from the sports competitiveness in the first place. Speaking from a perspective as a previous dancer, the whole thing of ballet is you have to be “skinny” and causes lots of dancers to have eating issues. A lot of body shaming goes on in the industry, because there is only one type of “perfect body” in it. Now these days it’s branching out a little and from what I’ve heard has gotten a little better.

[@roselamoure]

I would say that she definitely has schizophrenia and I knew that ever since I saw the movie because I know a lot about mental disorders, she also has an anxiety disorder as well as seems to have narcissistic traits. She also seemed to have problems with her sexual orientation and she had body dysmorphia. Her mother was also severely mentally ill and codependent on Nina

[@elonaalciauskaite9377]

I love how there are so many interpretations of the movie and yet all of them make sense 🤔

[@Silverfox0488]

You know what? That may have been intentional. So many things in life are subjective and up to the imagination.. I wonder if the director and crew intended it to be this way.

[@fajgull]

that there is a measurement of how great this movie is

[@JJ-he5in]

I took a course with a professor who majored in film, and she claimed that whenever you see a scene fade to white rather than to black, the character is dying. This is because the white is representative of "seeing the light."

[@mahvishism]

i saw another analysis which said that generally screens fade to black, but here it faded to white to indicate that the white swan which represents her innocence, is what faded away and died, and the black swan or the adult part of her, is what will live. every analysis make so much sense lol

[@Silverfox0488]

I can definately see the fading to white meaning both that she finally felt that massive relief to be perfect and finally grow up and out of the smothered child's life she once had.@@mahvishism

[@basilrose]

I don't see the movie as literal but metaphorical -- a cinematic poem about obsession, perfectionism, and fear of the loss of innocence. Not about schizophrenia.

[@johnmichaeldescuatan8601]

Well said

[@areyoufriendly]

I feel it can be both. Interpreted either way.

[@mahvishism]

me too! and I feel like knowing Darrens style of directing, he really focuses on symbolism and suspension of disbelief, rather than reality. Her hallucinations just serve as visual music for the watchers to glimpse what happens inside Ninas mind and the true extent of her obsession. Schizophrenia is a rather clinical way to box up what is actually a visual portrayal of ninas emotions.

[@roselamoure]

Nina is mentally ill though and that was confirmed. I believe it‘s both. Mental illnesses and obsession and perfection and how hard the ballet industry is and how competitive

[@VonLanzeloth]

Tbh a lot of symptoms of schizophrenia have been displayed accurately by the film. Like Nina thinking the girls are laughing at her when they were walking by her or her obsession with thinking Lilly wants to take her role. The hallucinations are a little over the top but still.

[@laurao5154]

It would make sense for her to die in the end. In the original story of Swan Lake, Odette kills herself due to the fact that she has lost the true love that could free her from her permanent white swan state. Nina relates to Odette in that she has never fallen in love, she has no real family, and she is alone in her world. Odette let the black swan take any chance of happiness she had, as Nina let her obsession with perfecting the role destroy her life. Both characters were consumed by the black swan, the price for both of which was death.

[@victoriahood2784]

Agreed, it couldn't have been a hallucination, everyone else saw it unlike the other hallucinations in the film. And I've always thought it was amazing how it mirrored the original story of Swan Lake in such an artistic, phenomenal way.

[@aayarabiea5065]

What is the original and where can I see it?

[@eor3927]

"Odette, beautiful odette"

[@nailjaumbatova4947]

@@aayarabiea5065 what do you mean? It is a Russian ballet so there are a lot of different versions of it, it is not a film. You can just google swan lake.

[@IGE5923]

Honestly I play this game mobile legends lol I thought they made Odette up I didn’t know she was really a white swan

[@ambersnider1301]

What I got from the movie was a story about a very sheltered and innocent young woman who is trying desperately to be perfect. A young woman who has never been able to indulge herself in her “dark side”. So, when she actually does, she loses it. It’s a sad story about maturing, fitting in and a desire to be perfect.

[@analizaperez7332]

Applicable to reality

[@juliem4259]

I think Nina's psychosis stems from jealousy. Her jealousy of Beth and the notion only the principal dancer is "perfect". I believe Lilly is actually just trying to be her friend and winds up being the target of the rage Nina's jealousy has unearthed. When Nina goes to see Beth in the hospital, the broken and twisted legs serve to further her belief you must be the principal dancer to be perfect. Beth is no longer the prima so she is no longer perfect. Later in the film when Nina returns Beth's things it shows how long she has been jealous because there are so many more items than the lipstick we saw her take in the beginning. Nina no longer wants to be like Beth hence giving back the objects representing her jealousy. Nina begins to become threatened by the attention Lilly draws from the director. Her hallucinations become more violent until she finally eliminates the threat enabling her to complete her transformation into the black swan. The final wound she inflicts is ultimately upon herself while having the visions of killing Lilly. It represents her destroying the threat to her perfection. I believe she really kills herself in the end because she doesn't want to go through the other side of her pinnacle and wind up like Beth. IMHO

[@Yotop-ch3wc]

Seriously one of my top five movies. The way it’s directed, shot, acted, edited, etc it’s haunting and beautiful.

[@christianwolf8419]

It copied anime callled Perfect Blue (1997) sadly they didn't give credit

[@kursad8725]

The ending of the movie feels different when you realize Nina could have bled to death from the mirror shards in her room and hallucinated the entire "Black Swan" sequence as she was slowly dying.

[@Silverfox0488]

That is so much sadder of a possibility than the ones I originally think... I hope that is not what happened.

[@bhargavvenn]

Very sad reading this

[@EasProject-wq3qy]

I also believe that her mom already died. She just in her imagination.

[@Silverfox0488]

Oooh! I never thought of it that way!

[@liorhabib6662]

She didn't have schizophrenia, the hallucinations were a metaphor for her altar ego overtaking her just in time for her to let go of the innocent side of her personality in turn for her darker more fierce side of her personality

[@mkmllrc]

yeah she repressed her sexuality and emotions

[@seanpatrick1211]

Wrong

[@GilMiddleBro]

I always thought that the hallucination of her killing Lily is actually her stubbing herself and during the show it came out real.

[@sherylsimmons8111]

Exactly! That's what I always thought too.

[@creeisaacson]

Benjanna Isnt that true? Lol

[@thelmzy4801]

Benjanna that’s what happened lol

[@lamagiduneinstant76]

~ BINGO!!!

[@sherrydaniel3156]

Where is the reply

[@johnny_tapia]

She didn't "die." Her innocence died.

[@lamagiduneinstant76]

Aaron Vincent ~ Lily’s innocence had been murdered long ago.. it was the only thing that was truly Hers, but she thought she had to sacrifice it to be “approved”.

[@nailjaumbatova4947]

Yes she did, the story mirrors the original swan lake where Odette also dies in the end because she has lost everything to the black swan.

[@mizstinkie]

@@nailjaumbatova4947 that could still be symbolic of her innocence dying. if she suffered and went to the hospital and survived this point would still stand. she’d come out as the black swan

[@majapungercar1093]

I have another more psychological explanation. I checked Nina's MBTI personality type and like I thought she is an INFJ. This personality type is obsessed with perfection, this type appears very pure and innocent but always has the darker, depressed, angry and obsessive side, which it never shows to other people (it is the most private type) but rather bottle up emotions. It is also very concerned with the well being of others and doesn't want a conflict, what explains Nina's relationship with her possesive mother and her new friend. The black swan has always been in Nina but she was repressing it, because in the real world it is not considered perfect. That's why her psychological problems began. Black swan role demand perfection in imperfection... and when you add such stress to already mentally unstable INFJ you get a psychopath - the real black swan. And once this border is crossed there's no turning back... At the end she symbolically kills herself because once perfection is achieved there's nothing more to fight for in this life. I also checked the director of this movie, he is also an INFJ, so I believe there's a part of his life story in this film too. To all INFJs out there... you are already perfect even with your darker side! Love you!

[@blinx_edits]

I read this and as an infj i cannot relate more. Ive always felt an inner battle inside me and its so hard trying to balance it. Obvio it wasnt as bad as in the movie but i got what u meant. I think every infj should be able to love and accept all sides of themselves and once they do so , no one can stop them. Im on a self love journey and i hope every infj is. Btw ty for ur comment❤

[@toddfart6058]

that might be why i love this movie so much, im a infj

[@Silverfox0488]

INFJ's unite! I can self-empathize with many of the descriptions you had said!

[@kirtikasaxena3097]

she was a gifted dancer,she did not need to transform herself in order to play a part but her director tried to convince her that only by doing certain things could she achieve it and since she was not able to share her insecurities with her mother she started believing in it,started hating what got her the perfection,she pulled the part of black swan well and she would have done that because she was a great artist.blood at the end according to me refer to the loss which is tremendous if we start believing in others more than believing in us.also support from family should be there which she never had.

[@dionyvuss]

but thats exactly it. She could dance the black swan part perfectly, but she needed more feeling, more seduction and more maturity. This becomes way more visible in the dance than u might actually think. The director wasn't wrong when he told Nina what she needed to work on. But for Nina this transition got way out of control because of all her diseases which are schizophrenia, obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), eating disorder and rumored to be bipolar too. But also because of her "caged" past i guess u could call it with her mom, who also suffer from severe mental illnesses.

[@lovelytanya988]

Did you voice the “Pacer Test” ?

[@humphriesdejah202]

delicate honey oh my gosh LMAOO

[@pippaschroeder9660]

Hahahah

[@jackd-hittomann1289]

I watched this movie now 2020 I think is insanely legendary intimidating a masterpiece

[@lamagiduneinstant76]

D_JOKER _PSYCHOPATH ~ See Nat in VOX LUX. Then Jackie, well then Lucy in the Sky.. But for wired -VOX LUX.

[@jackd-hittomann1289]

lamagiduneinstant76 100% agree

[@mkmllrc]

In Carl Jung’s psychology called “Shadow Work” on what is accepting your dark side and acknowledging it as you... is where you might understand this movie at some point.

[@ViolaRrecaj-ie5gc]

y'all keep saying she died and had mental illness, and yes that's what's shown in the movie But,this movie is all metaphorical,it's about accepting the dark side of oneself and becoming able to control it ,and not for the opposite,and also breaking the innocence and embrace the good and bad side of yourself.i think that's all it's about.And the ending which has shown her dying,it's not a literal death,she achieved and succeed to break her innocence and to control her dark side(black swan) along with her good side (white swan),and that was the metaphor in her "death".

[@mkmllrc]

yeah its what called Shadow Work by Carl Jung

[@PlatinumPussy2]

She bleed to death from stabbing her self and they all was calling for help! Thus is why he said what did you do! Stop making it more than what it was lol

[@tanyakashyap6944]

As Jung puts it 👈

[@ViolaRrecaj-ie5gc]

@@PlatinumPussy2 try to grasp the meaning and message of the movie not the plot and action lol

[@ahmedhassan5162]

I agree with everything u have said except the part that it says she dies at the end

[@cdall22]

Ahmed Hassan, I have a certain amount of agreement with you, but squizophrenia can lead to suicide or violence if it is not medically treated!, I guess this is one of those things you choose what the end was, leaves the split end of did she suicide or did she hallucinated that too?

[@xxalexthegeekqueenxx3313]

I can see how you think that but the director actually has said that she died.

[@darly3006]

Right like if she actually died right then and there how exactly would that have happened? Like she just starts randomly bleeding while dancing. So it must’ve been figuratively

[@nursejackie1786]

@@darly3006 well I'm prettu sure when she imagined stabbing lily she actually stabbed herself thats why she started bleeding later i think

[@zsh10n57]

Ahmed Hassan Remember when the hallucination with lily? when she stabbed lily with the glass, she stabbed herself.

[@VivianNguyeen]

I learned in my abnormal psychology class that this movie was based on obsessive compulsive disorder, but I can see why it would be schizophrenia too.

[@synthfan]

I agree. I also see this as something that a lot of addicts go through-Numbing themselves, holding themselves back from being complete - they can feel and be wonderful but instead they hide themselves in the world due to family, psychological, inner turmoil, nonacceptance of their own beauty.In this case she finally let go, but as her teacher said earlier in the movie the Darkside and the Whiteside really need to be able to work together, and that is the true perfection. But she allowed to take her over and that’s only when the beautiful part of her was to be seen at the end of the film. But it killed her. Very typical of addiction, especially for artists who don’t know how to love themselves. This is why this movie goes beyond the ballet for me.

[@lamagiduneinstant76]

arcticviv Look into Double Bind Theory with her mother, and yes, also the sexual abuse, whether real or suggested by mother to see her Real predicament.

[@lorainelopez3255]

It’s psychosis

[@MelonTartVA]

So Lily was her dark side, trying to get her to be more vicious. And when Lily tries to kill her after their..... hot night, it was her dark side trying to consume her.

[@arianaklassen-glanzer3091]

I never thought Lily was her dark side. I saw her as a more confident side, a more relaxed side that didn't care what other people thought. When she walked in for the first time, her body language was amazingly relaxed - it wasn't that she couldn't dance, it was more that she was in her element. She wasn't trying to impress anyone - she was just having fun with what she did, and I think Nina felt that as a threat to all her hard work.

[@lmaoautum2797]

I remember watching this when I was young and was freaked out

[@SaadRKhan]

If we take a less poetic look at it and more of a personal message, to me, it's about subduing/pushing aside our hearts desires, running away from out truths and not facing the person we really are, no matter how imperfect or full of shit we are. It ends up you being in places in life where you don't want to be, becoming the person you've been running away from and killing your true self.

[@amirbarzegar9435]

I'm just not sure that she died in the end. And also, perfection is due to having the both sides and then choosing one of them. You cannot be a good person unless you know how to be a bad one.(just my idea about perfection ) Good job for the explanation!

[@Platonykiss]

I like this observation! You might even go further, and see this wound as the one which is part of the female process of growing up. Or even an abortion of a neglected child which has no place in Nina’s life just defined by work according to her mother, at least as long as she would not like to repeat “the mistake” of her mother (without which she did never exist!). The problem is that the main protagonist has no character, because she never dares to think even one own thought or tries to answer the simple question, what could be something which has just something to do with me with disregard to any expectation surrounding myself? I never liked classical ballet and this obsession for Bolšoy and Čaykovskiy’s Swan Lake. I think already with the Ballets russes at Paris and the Russian avantgarde surrounding Diaghilev, it became obsolete (during the 1920s!!!). If I was introduced to ballet that way, I would never have entered an opera house to see a show. But please, apart from certain maniacs at East Berlin (who just copied Moscow, when it was 50 years too late!), this art form has slightly developed during the course of the century (apart from Nureyev’s turning-on-the-spot number which was already commented by Heinrich von Kleist in his essay about puppetry during the 18th century: becoming mechanic is the best way to find a way back to Paradise). Gosh, what a stupid dream about the immaculate virginity! And then they do wonder, why male dancers are almost never sexually attracted by their female partners... I always wondered what these bourgeois cowards expect out of a young human being who is never allowed to live. I mean even young people at Naples who are forced to work for the local mafia in order to bring through their own families, do know more about life than somebody does who is forced to sacrifice the own life for an art they will never understand. Even the disgraceful misery of having no childhood is already more human than the art fantasy about castrato singers with respect to Naples (where both ways of growing up are all too well known). Now, there is this mumbo jumbo about schizophrenia (which are just all the elements stolen from the manga film “Perfect Blue” which is about becoming “a star” in comercialised pop music, not in the context of “classical ballet”). In Europe this is the definition of creativity since E. T. A. Hoffmann, but this has nothing to do with a mental illness (except that hypocrites are always scared by human creativity which they aim to control, but that might be the problem of the Freudian school which is not able to cure psychotics). I asked my shrink what a borderliner is supposed to be and her diplomatic answer was: they are good performers! So what! The next question is unavoidable: why the hell am I here...

[@crystal.diorrr]

I see this movie as like the Ying and Yang. No matter how good or prefect you try to protray yourself, everyone has a dark side. Many people try to run from it. her dying at the end and eveyone noticing that time could be symbolic of people finally seeing that she is flawed. Everyone that is always criticizing her, being ovee protective etc could be her inside voices. Lily is the dark side or the more relax side that she tries to dtay away from because she is obsessed with being prefect and structured.

[@zeinana2751]

I literally just watched this movie, and seeing her transition through the phase of being a supposed child to an adult really- oof- tbh i had to skip some parts, not for the sake of keeping it PG but for the fact that, I literally felt like i was delving into her sub space of hysteria along side her. I kept asking my friend to not sleep off so i wouldn't be subjected to finishing it alone. Overall I like your explanation of it, and it was a nice movie.

[@briannacastillo7864]

but the movie wasn't scary...

[@zeinana2751]

Brianna Castillo I’m weak 😩

[@lamagiduneinstant76]

Zeina Jammal - one of the scariest movies I’ve ever seen. I haven’t been able to watch it again, although now I’d really like to. It’s bc of its reality. I don’t watch “horror” films at all - Reality is scarier. It’s a tribute to Nat’s acting that she was communicating to you so strongly. I don’t think you’re weak at all, but have to protect your massive Empathy..

[@ilovegojosomuch]

i just had the same reaction but didn’t skip

[@kartikaayuningtiar3698]

Who is come here bcs black swan song from bts?

[@independent_owl706]

The black swan song reminded me of this movie. This is a soooo much good movie.

[@kartikaayuningtiar3698]

@@independent_owl706 yaa, i think so. Both have better artistic vibes

[@chimchim-lm6wv]

Here

[@deactivatedaccount9636]

Loooool me

[@yew8l]

The theories are so confusing

[@IcaroMorbeck]

The message of this movie will touch deeply into the heart of the true artists. Every artist can connect with the perfection obsession and the struggle to deal with the requirement coming not just from the audience, but most importantly, from himself. The feeling of anxiety getting stronger as the "Big day" keeps getting closer is perfectly portrayed in this picture. 
It is truly thrilling how the metalinguistic elements can transmit such a powerful meaning on the artist´s persona. It shows how the work result is intrinsically related to the emotional area, and that the true perfection only happens when the art is liberated from the inside out. While doing so, the movie brilliantly showcases how art is not suposed to be painful, and that it shouldn´t be an obsession, but a way to connect with yourself, and comunicate to the world. 
This film invites you not to get sufocated by your art, but to let loose in it, completely free. To perform in such a complex character study is not a job for weak actors, that´s why this work wouldn´t be as remarkable as it is with someone other than Natalie Portman. The performance of a lifetime!
Aronofsky really created a master-piece with this movie, the direction is endowed with the purest refinement.

[@matthewjosephcabungcal5047]

Word

[@lunchablecheese5931]

I was looking for a BTS thing but now I’m binging clips of this movie, it’s really interesting

[@sarfrazahmed3559]

what does bts stand for?

[@XX-nf7gw]

@@sarfrazahmed3559 bts is a kpop boy group. They have a song named black swan. Check it out, it’s a masterpiece!

[@sarfrazahmed3559]

@@XX-nf7gw I have heard of (and listened to) bts a little while back (not a fan of their recent music so I'm taking a little break from them) but my dumbass thought op meant 'behind the scenes' or smth instead. I didn't even think they were talking abt the boy group. Lol, sorry.

[@TomTheCurator]

Sorry for last week I was out in the woods and forgot to schedule this upload. There will be another video tomorrow .

[@maryamhedayat7032]

Please give me the link to the other video about Black Swan

[@pranafox_]

the two critiques i have of this take are: a. the point of lily is not that she's the conflict; it's that nina's in conflict with herself and her obsession. lily enters as a figure who is, throughout the entire film, trying to do nothing but extend gestures of friendship that nina in her obsessive compulsive behavior mistakes for rivalry. she isn't actually a rival; nina simply imagines her to be because she's so obsessed with being perfect for her role as both the white and black swans that she sees anyone else as a threat. b. nina is not schizophrenic, she is clearly obsessive-compulsive. having hallucinations doesn't diagnose schizophrenia, nor does paranoia; these are also symptoms of obsessive-compulsive disorder. this is put into perspective by the constant reminder of every minor detail that nina obsesses over: lily's arrival as a new and appealing member of the cast; beth's accident and nina's self-ascribed guilt for it; her mother always looking over her shoulder; her conflicting feelings about others; her "homework assignment"; her perceived need to BECOME the black swan; her self-perceived transformation. these are things she obsesses over to the extent of hallucination, and the high stress exacerbates this issue to the point that she believes scenarios she obsessively played out in her head actually happened.

[@ojxolape]

i agree

[@ilovegojosomuch]

i love this take!

[@laurenzulu2060]

I love Black Swan. One of my favorite movies

[@brigitteclaudette4456]

HOW DID YOU ALL NOT KNOW THAT SHE DIED AT THE END WHEN SHE WAS BLEEDING TO DEATH AND EVERYONE ELSE SAW IT TOO AND STARTED YELLING FOR HELP???? IT CLEARLY WASN'T A HALLUCINATION. THINK.

[@XDHelloViidaXD]

I agree

[@bibibalqis2041]

I came bcs BTS new single Black Swan

[@marinettedupain_cheng2453]

Same huh

[@marinettedupain_cheng2453]

This is related to album "Wings" remember blood sweat &Tears Taehyung's back and Jin's face in the end and also there is a museum 🤣😂 i don't how to explain since i don't speak English

[@bibibalqis2041]

@@marinettedupain_cheng2453 ikr, there's wings reference here and there. Also, yr english is alright. I'm not fully eng speaker too😁

[@rajpalbhatia1715]

@@marinettedupain_cheng2453 it is so interesting to see how every thing is so connected

[@vashmirpascal1051]

Same

[@cdall22]

I love this explanation, clear, brief and on point!, great analysis and Great Job!

[@christianndlovu-lh7vu]

I love how the black swan is the only villain that won

[@bellakoesmarsono8678]

Everything u said is true. But another website explained not about the schizophrenia but about the obsession of an artist to become perfect. Like heath ledger in batman. At the end he become what he want; a true vicious evil criminal, joker, but in reality in order to become that part, he has to sacrifice some part of his life which leads to depression because when the movie is over he has to go back to the reality, his true self. But he already forgotteb what is was meant as himself, hence the depression and the halucination. It is the same with black swan. The director wants to uncover the hardest part of being an artist and what it feels to become one with this film

[@bessievazquez6174]

I watched it once but I couldn't grasp it at first, even though I loved the ballet dancing. Thank you for your explaining the movie. I think I can understand Nina's character and the movie a little better now. It really helped. Thank you. 😀

[@deanuhosmani]

“This role is wild” lol love it

[@annburchard6199]

You explained it very well! Bravo! Bravo!

[@pcano1234]

This is the perfect amount of time to explain a movie and was articulately done ✅

[@archangel3433]

Odette died. As a person with schizophrenia she took the role seriously and literally starting her training leading to the final scene of her performance. For her, it’s not a role. It’s who she is. It’s like extreme method acting.

[@ahmedseelawi2948]

I love the movie , and it has many view of points and indeed all are right coz at the end it ur point of view . For me i see thomas as the big life duties , tasks , careers , bills that forces us to be adults in a very harsh way .... either u do it right or u are out of the system ... in another nina represents us in early 20s when we think life is just perfect and our parents are going to save us from all problems ... yet they stand doing nothing just crying .... i have watched the movie for more than 10 times and still everytime i watch it i feel i am seeing for the very first time .

[@macombermr]

How poetic. Very well summarized.

[@liannapfister8255]

Here’s how I saw it: Nina starts out as a pure innocent, a role she is very good at & comfortable in. She wants to be respected as a prima. Unfortunately, this means embracing a sort of dark sexuality that she is neither good at nor comfortable with, as demanded by a rather predatory director. Nina now sees this as the only way that she can be “perfect”. She tries to embrace the role but it goes against her instincts and she spirals, losing her sense of reality and herself. This is made infinitely worse by her having _no one_ to turn to; her director, Lily, and the company all continue to push her into this new role. Her mother is overbearing and not someone Nina can talk to. She doesn’t have any friends. I spent the last 30 minutes of the film crying because of how terrifying it would be; running scared, trying to be what everyone you look up to wants you to be, not trusting yourself anymore, _and_ doing it totally alone.

[@janevivian24]

Perfect blue but Watered down

[@dinaadel8227]

good analysis but no one has ever said anything about the director manipulating her and other dancers in the company, driving them mad

[@nikole404]

Dina Adel I thought of the instructor as a second abuser.

[@lamagiduneinstant76]

I said I I think he literally looks like a demon/ devil in some shots. It’s all ego, control. They’re all dependent on him, he -sucks it all up.

[@emilyvaldes627]

the fuck is that intro. fucking scared the crap out of me. XD

[@suzannaroumie1802]

She had to kill her innocence to become the person she wanted to be "the black swan".

[@elkanahseymour7430]

Beautiful movie when you understand it thanks for the info !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@poulamisaha8207]

This movies portrays the depriving nature of becoming perfect which most women face nowadays, what need to stop is to fit oneself in other, come on all are unique and perfect in their own way, you just need to inculcate and embrace it

[@edukaytor3]

I agree --- great summary and explanation. Folks don't want to think she dies at the end. I believe she definitely does. She reached her pinnacle and it did her in. I wondered if her tryst with Lily was real or she imagined it?

[@Sofia_._._]

edukaytor3 I read that the director said that she didn't die

[@vincentpaquette5059]

I had cinema classes I love the facts that you’ve mentioned that she become a women (transition from from child to an adult)

[@lamagiduneinstant76]

Vincent Paquette ~ please point out the scenes “where she became a woman”. I missed those totally. I hope you enjoyed them, bc they weren’t there.

[@luftfeuchte]

perfect explanation, thanks , luv indeed 1 of my favorites

[@simonchune9513]

Yes you nailed completely thank you for seeing it as it really is very smart. Thank you .

[@youssefa.2251]

I was mind blown after watching perfect blue. When I heard there was a movie(claimed to be)inspired by Perfect blue I wanted to check it ou. This blew my mind even more. This movie was amazing. Never seen such performance!! I think I'll choose this over perfect blue, but perfect blue had its own charm, bit more charismatic than Black swan Nevertheless, I'm so glad I watched this movie, this one really fucked with my mind.. The actress should've been tough to do these scenes ;)

[@ladyday8576]

100% fantastic explanation

[@kathryneast6919]

Very well explained.

[@matthewg504]

Movies like this annoy me because you never know for sure what’s REALLY happening! I’ve read some people think the mom is a hallucination and A LOT of people think Lilly is Nina’s alter ego. My issues with the mom being fake is the fact that she called her in sick on the opening night and when she shows up they’re shocked to see her. So who called if the mom is fake? And i can understand and see why people think Lily is Nina. 2 parts make me question that though, when she 1st shows up all the girls turn and look at her AND he introduces her to everyone. And the 2nd scene is her showing up at their apartment (the doorbell rings) and the guys at the club are talking/ reacting to BOTH of them not just Nina. This is why i avoid movies like this because i like knowing what is REALLY going on. Also we are left to wonder if Nina killed herself in the end or if it was just another hallucination or a metaphor to her transformation into becoming a woman?! Please feel free to explain it to me because i like hearing what other people think and why.

[@toddfart6058]

"1st shows up all the girls turn and look at her AND he introduces her to everyone. And the 2nd scene is her showing up at their apartment (the doorbell rings) and the guys at the club are talking/ reacting to BOTH of them not just Nina." i dont understand what ur tryna say here

[@victoriav.6462]

All of the above plus another fact. Growing up obeying her controlling mom, this becoming woman lives in a world where one must obey and strive for perfection. In her work, once told she wasn't good at showing her dark swan, she is working to achieve it no matter the cost. Consuming herself physicallyand mentaly. Etc.

[@merjematagic3969]

I like this explanation a lot. Finally someone gave me a way to process this movie. Nevertheless, loved it even though I couldn’t really explain it. Love the bizarre scenes, totally my cup of tea. When I think about it, that may be the reason why I love it that much, I never really got it, so I left some space for myself.. this explanation is great, but sometimes we’re better of without an explanation. ❤️❤️

[@carleisaid8385]

FACTS

[@merjematagic3969]

Carlei A. Thanks

[@christosnyman8909]

Great analysis! You've inspired me to re-watch the movie.

[@moubanimohanta7681]

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[@melisabautista3866]

Really? A great movie like this and u didn't it existed? Wow, armys are stupid af.

[@zakiabanu254]

Great evaluation.

[@georgia9555]

Yes. Beautiful movie little things to notice.

[@bretinthemaking6897]

I think when Lily was in Nina’s dressing room dressed as black swan and then turned into a Nina black swan, Nina as a white swan killed the black swan Nina which turned out to be Lily is a representation of Nina herself trying to stay away from her dark side by killing it but as you can see in the end that the white swan died, which I think represents of her killing her innocence.

[@tmoneypodcast]

i love your interpretation!

[@haykvardanyan6349]

I think the movie is very subliminal and metaphorical. I dont think Nina actually dies or had schizophrenia at all.. the schizophrenia could show other illnesses/issues such as body image issues and other insecurities and her seeing things are just like looking in a mirror and focusing about minor details which make you insecure. Now the death of her in the White Swan costume could only mean that the White Swan (purity, innocence, childhood) is gone and she is transitioning into the Black Swan (a confident woman who knows what she wants). The obsession with perfection slowly kills her, just like it ruined Beth. So either the White Swan dies and transitions into the Black Swan, or Nina actually drives herself to insanity and kills herself.

[@atulchirame]

doesn't meet my expectations. good movie...

[@angelvanzant]

I love this work of art it tell s good twist story to read

[@matthewg504]

And i forgot to mention, not many people mention the fact that Nina throws up several times throughout the movie. It’s obvious to me that she has some kind of eating disorder along with whatever other mental illness she has!!

[@jw6032]

Great explanation

[@fragolaemo]

This movie deserves an oscar

[@aldinaatic9360]

nice explanation, I agree , everything you said makes sense

[@TheDeno786]

She perfected her role so well that despite her suppose to be dying in the end of play she actually died .. being in the white swan also explaining her innocence died with her

[@raquelashton-newton6106]

Yes I Liked The Explanation.....Could You Please Explain Ahhnilation The Movie And Underwater....Thank You

[@danytargaerys712]

Movies about schizophrenia are hard to understand because it's difficult to pinpoint what's really happening. It's been a while since I've seen this movie, but I remember being very confused over how she actually died, and also the parts that were real versus halluciations.

[@nokia6630videos]

It’s an interesting interpretation but that’s not the real explanation of the movie, she was never schizophrenic, or else she would’ve had all these hallucinations all her life instead of suddenly out of nowhere, this movie simply portrays a woman descent into madness from the pressure of competition, perfection and the need to be on top. She’s given a task that she simply cannot humanly complete, but she ends up completing it anyways at the cost of her sanity and life.

[@meagansk926]

Update: no I think you are right. I think Nina is schizoid ( which can have paranoia, perfection, codependency and people pleasing patterns as well) but it's a watered down version of schizophrenia. I due believe toma and her mom have some form of npd.

[@lamagiduneinstant76]

Meagan SK x ~ YOU NAILED IT! FINALLY SOMEONE GOT IT AND SO SUCCINCTLY. THANK YOU. (Natalie would be proud of you. -Degree?) Narcissistic Personality Disorder for others to understand. My mother, too. I’m 60 yrs old, Finally got Myself back.

[@DustinPlatt]

Man schizophrenia must be tough. I've been researching about it online and it's some scary stuff. Once the Shadow Lord Gogaboroba gets off my computer I'll try to dig deeper.

[@calebwhitt1174]

a lot of people are missing a huge plot point of the movie, everyone saying her death was symbolic i dont think it was. what ballet are they performing? Swan Lake. The white swan kills her self at the end of the performance, her innocence being the death of her. i believe nina truly did die because of her suppression of her black swan inside of her, the hallucinations being a byproduct of her inability to express her true “dark side”

[@tanyakashyap6944]

Embracing the shadow.. As Jung puts it is essential to Individuation n if u don't your shadow devours you because you don't resolve your traumas

[@makyhsmakyhs6766]

Thanks Tom, I didn't understand the facts of the plot, because of some drops and illogical contradictions in the scenario and the directing path !

[@pluto-tx8ii]

this explaination can also be put in bts' new song black swan because the lyrics have the EXACT same meaning :)

[@Tyln93]

MK Ultra Program!!!

[@sachikodungallur996]

Correct explanation ✓

[@sherrydaniel3156]

Yes good explanation I was confused but I'm not now

[@TheSiblings0003]

I thought she's been having hallucinations because she doesn't even eat and always throw up and she barely sleeps. Because before she got the role she didn't have those hallucinations. But I may be wrong.

the reason why she is such a perfectionst (also ocd, bulimia, anorexia) is because having such a controlling mother leaves her in control only over a few things, most importantly her ballet performance. When she "befriends" Kunis character, she realises she has no real enemy and that the only enemy is herself, her ability to perform perfectly. So she continues to push herself harder. The transformation from a white swan (a girl) into a black one (a woman) has to do with her taking over the control and defeating herself, becoming something she never really was supposed to be, but at a cost of her mental health that starts showing on the way.

[@ravinderpannu5717]

Well explained

[@antoniodimario4204]

Actually, it is not Schizophrenia. She probably suffers from a severe personality disorder and from a dissociative disorder with hallucinations. Schizophrenic hallucinations are different, more basic, predominantly auditory hallucinations. and, generally, Schizophrenic patient's personality is different, more rigid and schizoid. She is what, in the late 19th century, you would probably call "Hysteric".

[@lynnpeppa1]

Very nice explanation. Can you explain the movie “vanilla sky” with Tom Cruise. For the life of me I have no idea what it was about, do you?

[@TomTheCurator]

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[@syntheovaldy5173]

what's the background music in this video? i know it's from the movie

[@sweetdiva95]

This is a brilliant movie

[@DENAANN1000]

Makes the most amount of sense, I didn't know what her deal was.