Black Widow - Movie Review

[@EaglyBeeks]

This movie answered the one question we all were dying to know. Where did Natasha get that vest she wears in infinity war

[@dylanmatt210]

😂

[@mnorth1351]

It has so many pockets!

[@akxay7456]

I didn't even noticed it 😂😁

[@evelynblackwood4362]

Lol

[@za-jm8wf]

Lol

[@edgelord8337]

Let's be honest This movie should have happened during phase 2

[@Erasureeraser]

Or maybe Phase 1 before she appeared in Iron Man 2

[@Savataric]

Yeah but someone declined it when feige was suggesting the movie

[@mekhijw15]

One tbh

[@mandeepkumarray9050]

Everybody knows that, but the main thing is this movie should have been better

[@123bboymeandyou]

yup been saying this since the first avengers they did her dirty!

[@oogabooga2473]

"Task master" felt more like task manager

[@kraithaywire]

Lmaooo

[@Gilgamoth]

And that's in itself is an insult to task manager. At least you can deactivate program or app that you don't want, but this taskmaster can't deactivate the amount of disappointment I've had with the character.

[@Mr_Cinematic]

Yoooo if you liked this you should check out my black widow RANT

[@Pepsolman]

If only I could ‘end task’ their version of “Taskmaster”.

[@Elricsedric]

They ruined him and wanted him to be a woman for representation that's it

[@TehBellcarl]

This movie should’ve come in captain marvels slot. We could’ve waited for Captain marvels origin until after endgame.

[@ARCtrooperblueleader]

Well said.

[@clit_niblr0375]

Or... or... they could have taken Cap. Marvel's movie budget and slot and used it for BW to make a more comprehensible script.

[@allkindz6792]

Maybe the reason why it didn't was because MCU knew that Nat was going to die in Endgame. So they would have a post-credit scene of her grave. If it was released when we thought it should of have been released, then Black Widow would either have not died or died but have her funeral in Endgame. Plus, if it was released during the time we wanted it to be released, then you would have to bring Nat's parents into play. Then you'd have fans crying about where's Red Guardian and so and so. So yeah, seems like MCU was trying avoid all that and stick with fans saying "black widow should've been released during this time" Lol you have to look at from a "business" standpoint, paying the actors and for their time.

[@clit_niblr0375]

@@allkindz6792 - You make some valid points, but you also forget that Marvel CEO Isaac Perlmutter had an email that was leaked to the public revealing how Perlmutter was a racist who resisted efforts to make a Black Panther film and was staunchly against a Black Widow movie because he said female super heroes are NOT bankable projects. Then the Wonder Woman movie came out and was a huge hit.

[@JoakimOtamaa]

@@clit_niblr0375 Tbf Black Panther is pretty mediocre with Phase 3 standards. Over rated beyond the stars. Definitely the worst effects of the whole MCU right there and pretty much the same story as Thor, couple dudes fighting over a throne. Still watchable, nothing special.

[@shawnregina9110]

This probably should’ve been more of a spy thriller rather than action movie…

[@larryversion3300]

I never understood why they made the choice they made. The trailers made it look like there is some sort of world ending threat. I thought this kind of movie with this kind of character should’ve been low key, with a sort of Atomic Blonde feel.

[@RoseUnseen]

A mystery would of been more exciting

[@wetteryan]

Seems like the obvious direction to take. Especially since it's been a while since winter soldier... Which is commonly seen as one of the best movies in all of the MCU.

[@shawnregina9110]

@Jetrules231 if the Russos directed every Marvel movie I’d be good with that…

[@shawnregina9110]

@@wetteryan I’m definitely one of those people that feel WS is peak Marvel. And having a BW movie that mimicked the vibe would’ve been amazing.

[@r520jr8]

This movie would probably have been better received if it actually came out around the time of Civil War

[@themadtitan7603]

Yeah, like have it as the 2nd film in 2016 instead of Dr Strange and push that into 2017.

[@galanakagalactus903]

And if they gave us the actual Taskmaster.

[@cgates2]

I legitimately thought that this movie had already come out years ago.

[@themadtitan7603]

@@galanakagalactus903 Such a shame what they did to Taskmaster, simply of the coolest anti-villains in the Marvel's lore. After Spider-Man PS4 I expected more awesome Taskmaster adaptations.

[@averagegoslingenthusiast2033]

Maybe marvel should just stop or at the very least reduce the number of movies they make. I feel a lot of people are getting sick of them.

[@SolracNexus]

Black widow: "I have a movie now" Ancient one: "You're about 5 years too late"

[@Stern0385]

Lmfao💀

[@Mr_Cinematic]

Yooooo if you liked this you should check out my black widow RANT

[@akashsadhu1430]

It would have been much interesting if they had told the backstory of nat before she became an avenger!

[@Who-Uhm-Cares]

She’s too old now sadly. Would have to use cgi

[@ARCtrooperblueleader]

Truly.

[@jermaineartis4323]

I thought that’s what it was going to be.

[@JuustJayden]

They didn’t know black widow would be a fan favourite

[@thatDUDEfromMAINE]

I thought that was the whole point of the movie. upon watching/ reading reviews, I definitely won't be purchasing it.

[@brainsniffer]

Hey, it’s not like we’ve seen a prequel marvel movie where they decide to make the villain mute for no good reason, right Wolverine?

[@brandondriver99]

Right Darth Maul?

[@thatsagoodone8283]

@@brandondriver99 Maul actually talks in Phantom Menace. In a scene with Palpatine. ;-) However, it is as much as Legolas talks directly to Frodo in all of LotR: And my bow. ;-)

[@brandondriver99]

@@thatsagoodone8283 oh man he did. I need to go watch it again

[@Fallenangelzeroshine]

@@thatsagoodone8283 00pm

[@zvimur]

@@thatsagoodone8283 dubbed by another actor. Shrug.

[@TheChefComic]

Since this movie is about family, I am expecting a cameo from Dominic Toretto.

[@koushikkarthikeyan156]

We are Groot

[@delgat000]

Guardians of the Family

[@jothishprabu8]

I'm here to talk about the Family initiative

[@gh0stxx728]

Lmao😭

[@ZillaNation84]

Lol right

[@EdwardKenway-lr5tl]

MCU should really put some brakes on the quips and jokes now

[@Erasureeraser]

Well it's a Disney property, they made the movies mostly for kids to enjoy so they had to crack jokes many times especially when they're fighting for their lifes which is very annoying and really dissapointing

[@EdwardKenway-lr5tl]

@@Erasureeraser Pixar makes movies for kids and they have so much more emotional and dramatic impact than any MCU movie, kinda because they really let the scene breathe and its not like the characters head will pop off if they didn't make a joke every 5 seconds

[@giovannigiovanni.7220]

@He-Man MCU Marvel Netflix and Hulu shows >

[@jefftheindianchief8279]

@@Erasureeraser Nothing says "kids movie" like a project starring a Russian assassin-turned-agent with a brutal past, right? Tonal inconsistency takes people out of the experience, it's high time Disney learned a bit more about cinematography.

[@lye27]

@He-Man most of the jokes are forced tho

[@LayrtizParkProductions]

They really should have given Black Widow two movies. An actual origin story which would have released around the Iron Man time. Then this movie releases as a Yelena origin story and a BW send off

[@theinsurance2450]

T Taskmaster aka a 99%copy of Bucky the Winter Soldier. 1. A person from the heroes past that is believed to be dead and ends up being one of the heroes biggest regrets. 2. Turns out to be still alive and is turn into a mind control super assissain who is sent on the most high level missions. 3. They are turn into a assissain by a terrorist organizations that was believed to be destroyed by the main hero but turns out to be secretly operated entire time without no one knowing. 4. Now said super assissain is sent on a mission to kill the main hero character and is to received a plot device that will destroy the terrorist organizations plan. 5. Said hero is shock to discover the truth of who the Assassin is. Must now fight them without killing them and getting through their mind control state while fighting in a floating aircraft facility that is now exploding and falling to the ground. Like wow marvel. Like wow. So this means either 3 things. 1. Marvel Studios was so dumb they didn't realize they were copying one of their most famous movies note for note. 2. They did know and figured we be so dumb we wouldn't realize it. 3. They did know and knew we would know. But feel like they are so big and Unstoppable that it wouldn't even matter so they didn't give a fu^k.

[@LayrtizParkProductions]

@@theinsurance2450 pretty dang accurate haha

[@theinsurance2450]

@@LayrtizParkProductions it's an even worst copy than yellow jacket copying ironmanger. Lol 1. Rich Co-ceo bald business man turn evil and wants to sell long time ceo partner's super advanced battle suit to bad guys. 2. Bald business man is willing to kill long old business partner and friends. Even though he liked the hot assistant chick. 3. Bald business man makes a more powerful version of the battle suit and wears it in battle. 4. Bald business man fights in new suit against someone in the old suit and goes so bad sh!t crazy he is even willing to kill children. 5. Bald business man is defeated by the same power that powers the suit with hero character taking a life risk move which luckily doesn't kill them.

[@VonJay]

Nah

[@CurtyTails]

@@theinsurance2450 holy shit…yeah this movie isn’t good-which means me and a friend were correct that the MCU will go downhill after far from home. Hopefully Sam raimi can either do what he wants with doctor strange 2 or doesn’t let himself turn into another Kevin smith and destroy what makes him unique and fun for the sake of pandering to the blue check marks and big wigs. Otherwise if that turns out bad…maybe spider man no way home will be good? Hopefully? Otherwise I think the good days of the MCU are over….

[@vicsage890]

Serious moment - deflect with a joke I struggle re-watching most of the MCU movies because of this formula.

[@darksparda87]

Thor 3 had that effect on me

[@iforgot87872]

Infinity war and end game have plenty of drama though, there is a lot of dramatic acting as well. But to a point I agree, some of them are like comedy cartoons to me. Winter Soldier is my favorite because it feels the most dangerous.

[@giovannigiovanni.7220]

That's why I tend to stick to the MCU shows.

[@lye27]

Thank god Im not the only one

[@vicsage890]

@@iforgot87872 infinity war and WA are some of the few exceptions I feel. Civil War as well.

[@blankisfornerds]

“taskmaster is the most disappointing mcu villain yet” they actually topped all the others? how??

[@exerzet2661]

Taskmaster in the comics is a bona-fide threat. He can go toe to toe with the greatest of fighters, is conniving, clever, ambitious, and is a great foil for any hero to face. Movie Taskmaster is a mute mook.

[@blankisfornerds]

@@exerzet2661 thats what i thought, which disappoints me because i hate his design so i was hoping at least he’d be a cool villain. so no matter how i look at him hes a disappointment

[@abdizur8765]

Taskmaster is the chameleon of the Marvel Universe, he can outwit and out maneuver virtually everyone by giving them a taste of their own medicine aside from maybe Deadpool. Taskmaster should have been a huge threat and they blew it...yay... 😑

[@spongebobsmirk1528]

@@exerzet2661 so kinda like DC's deathstroke?

[@spongebobsmirk1528]

@@abdizur8765 how can he outmanuver someone like Thor, Captain Marvel & Hulk like beings? They're superhuman, he's not.

[@Erasureeraser]

Black Widow solo movie should've been made years ago. Marvel was way too late making this movie after we found out the character has die

[@lazwardazure716]

I thought of that The First time I've Heard of this One

[@Savataric]

I heard Feige was really trying to make a movie for her for a long time but it was some person who declined it before marvel studios separated from marvel

[@ferrarriohh]

Hey spoilers cmon

[@Erasureeraser]

@@ferrarriohh not spoiler, she did die in Endgame tho. Meant by, Marvel should've made this film years before Endgame, before we found out that she died

[@Windupchronic]

Not like they had a choice. The contract f---ed them.

[@luisayala4588]

It feels like Marvel is focusing all it’s efforts into the future movies and this was just there to fill the gap.

[@nobodyisgonna6286]

Exactly

[@MrGenexxx]

It’s kinda like releasing small farts before finally taking a dump.

[@newball2]

Exactly

[@Loganbub]

Constantly setting things up more than paying them off. It gets old after a while

[@theinsurance2450]

Taskmaster aka a 99%copy of Bucky the Winter Soldier. 1. A person from the heroes past that is believed to be dead and ends up being one of the heroes biggest regrets. 2. Turns out to be still alive and is turn into a mind control super assissain who is sent on the most high level missions. 3. They are turn into a assissain by a terrorist organizations that was believed to be destroyed by the main hero but turns out to be secretly operated entire time without no one knowing. 4. Now said super assissain is sent on a mission to kill the main hero character and is to received a plot device that will destroy the terrorist organizations plan. 5. Said hero is shock to discover the truth of who the Assassin is. Must now fight them without killing them and getting through their mind control state while fighting in a floating aircraft facility that is now exploding and falling to the ground. Like wow marvel. Like wow. So this means either 3 things. 1. Marvel Studios was so dumb they didn't realize they were copying one of their most famous movies note for note. 2. They did know and figured we be so dumb we wouldn't realize it. 3. They did know and knew we would know. But feel like they are so big and Unstoppable that it wouldn't even matter so they didn't give a fu^k.

[@therealsiguenza4301]

"Defflect with a joke" needs to be an attack in all future RPGs

[@julianxamo7835]

It is in tabletop RPG, just roll a D20 for charisma

[@nightsong81]

Every bard player ever: Did someone call me?

[@bonbondurjdr6553]

Do you have multiple character disorder? XP

[@f-ckmyr0fil788]

It doesn’t matter.

[@WLxMusic]

i think that's Cutting Words from DnD

[@destructo6t942]

Man, Natasha deserved a good farewell, her death was overshadowed by Tony's sacrifice and this movie has left fans disappointed. A hero is only as good as the villain, so hearing that taskmaster is a disappointing secondary antagonist breaks my heart. Wonder how this movie would have been received if it was part of phase 2?

[@Evil_Peter]

It seems weird to say that this movie has left fans disappointed when it hasn't even come out yet. I'd wait until it's actually had its reception to decide what it is, although I care less about that than my own opinion, which is also yet to be established.

[@MariaRodriguez-dx6sm]

@@Evil_Peter Even Grace was disappointed about the movie, so yeah, I'm expecting to be disappointed

[@yaswante4105]

@@MariaRodriguez-dx6sm wait rly?? that's actually pretty surprising

[@Evil_Peter]

@@MariaRodriguez-dx6sm I'm not sure you got my point since what you just said doesn't really relate to what I said. I didn't say anything about whether I think it will be good or bad, I just said that it hasn't left the fans in any state yet since the fans haven't seen it yet.

[@AdamtheGrey02]

Scarlett basically blames men again for making her character "sexy" (a tool female assassins use) which is why her character not only in the MCU but in the comic became popular so she doesn't deserve shit.

[@S_K_15017]

This movie is a testament to a lot of the issues that come with major franchising. Formulaic plot and dialogue structure, no stakes due to a character having already died in another film, etc. The best thing the MCU could probably do right now is shift as much of its focus away from the characters explored/affected in previous phases and move to new waters.

[@jking4973]

I believe that’s what they’re trying to do, and I see WandaVision as their first step in doing so. Personal preferences aside, it was by far the most innovative and imaginative idea ever proposed by Marvel. And despite the episodes being somewhat inconsistent in terms of quality, the show delivered some of the best dialogue ever spoken in the MCU. And I believe Loki is continuing this course. I think this movie (Black Widow) is simply out of place, it should’ve come out years ago.

[@malfaroangel3896]

This movie was supposed to come out a long time ago. All the other movies look way different than Black Widow

[@jking4973]

@Impersonal Immigrant well it’s Marvel.

[@irons6229]

@@jking4973 lol new waters. Agents of shield has basically done every plot point the premise of the new Disney plus shows

[@jking4973]

@@irons6229 I’m sorry I’m having trouble understanding your comment. However if you’re suggesting that Agents of shield recreated the iconic eras of television with absolute precision as a detailed allegory for grief, please point me in the direction of those episodes.

[@rodbarnes9624]

_"Captain America: Winter Soldier is a _*_better_*_ Black Widow movie than the actual Black Widow movie..."_ *You just saved me 2 hours* 👍🏾

[@Dave--FkTheDeepstate]

FWIW, I enjoyed Black widow much more than Winter soldier.

[@vincenthalfprice9930]

@@Dave--FkTheDeepstate …k

[@JayPlusForerunner]

@@Dave--FkTheDeepstate Kool

[@angelogalimba133]

@@Dave--FkTheDeepstate sure, but it won't change the fact that it sucks

[@Dave--FkTheDeepstate]

@@angelogalimba133 LOL Black Widow 91% audience score on RT. 6.8 on IMDB It did Not suck.

[@RahemtheDream13]

This movie should have came out instead of Captain Marvel. It could have been perfect and would have add way more weight to her death in End game.

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

Agree 100%

[@Erasureeraser]

Not instead but it should've came out before Captain Marvel, maybe shortly after The Winter Soldier or Age of Ultron

[@excitedcat9517]

I feel like it would’ve been more predictable rather than adding weight, idk that’s just me.

[@DA11AZ]

Exactly

[@clarity2199]

Yep, but they dropped the ball for apparent 'wahmen power'. See how well that did for them...

[@googleislame]

This movie seems like it was made to fulfill contractual obligations.

[@gidondejong1802]

That is why it will be meh at most.

[@PeterGriffin11]

And it will still make a billion dollars regardless of if most people like or dislike it like Captain Marvel but I hope I’m wrong the MCU kinda seems to be slowing down at least the movies do with some of them being banned in China now apparently.

[@KilluaZoldyck-ij6lt]

@@PeterGriffin11 I doubt any movie makes a billion this year

[@disguisedcentennial835]

@@PeterGriffin11 a billion? You have to pay $30 on top of the Disney+ subscription. Loki’s ratings are nosediving and it’s literally free with the subscription.

[@PeterGriffin11]

@@disguisedcentennial835 I didn't know about all that perhaps I might be wrong.

[@ribottostudio]

They really did Black Widow dirty like that. Kill her off, leave her body on Vormir to rot, wait YEARS to make a solo movie and make her solo movie eh. Smh

[@juliossan5118]

84% on RT. This is one dude's opinion.

[@anurag809088]

@@juliossan5118 haha as if RT is credible.

[@TheJonklerofjonklers]

@@juliossan5118 lol and 69% meta critic!!

[@Erasureeraser]

@@juliossan5118 really? You're believing in RT score? Captain Marvel got 79% critics score but many people were dissapointed or didn't like the movie that much. Stop bringing RT to this, watch the movie and make your own thoughts on the movie instead of bringing up other people's review

[@lye27]

@@juliossan5118 imagine still relying on RT in 2021

[@timothywalsh9637]

Honestly, I'm not off the MCU train, but I'm generally not as excited to see an MCU movie as I used to be. Mainly, because of what you mentioned about the humor overshadowing or cancelling good dramatic moments.

[@Loganbub]

Really wish Marvel would get over themselves and not be afraid to actually let those moments take place without Ill timed jokes to ruin them

[@theinsurance2450]

Taskmaster aka a 99%copy of Bucky the Winter Soldier. 1. A person from the heroes past that is believed to be dead and ends up being one of the heroes biggest regrets. 2. Turns out to be still alive and is turn into a mind control super assissain who is sent on the most high level missions. 3. They are turn into a assissain by a terrorist organizations that was believed to be destroyed by the main hero but turns out to be secretly operated entire time without no one knowing. 4. Now said super assissain is sent on a mission to kill the main hero character and is to received a plot device that will destroy the terrorist organizations plan. 5. Said hero is shock to discover the truth of who the Assassin is. Must now fight them without killing them and getting through their mind control state while fighting in a floating aircraft facility that is now exploding and falling to the ground. Like wow marvel. Like wow. So this means either 3 things. 1. Marvel Studios was so dumb they didn't realize they were copying one of their most famous movies note for note. 2. They did know and figured we be so dumb we wouldn't realize it. 3. They did know and knew we would know. But feel like they are so big and Unstoppable that it wouldn't even matter so they didn't give a fu^k.

[@colten53]

The after credits scene was the absolute worst with that. Here’s Yelena visiting her sister’s modest grave and telling her goodbye, and what to do we get? Elaine from Seinfeld blowing her nose in the least funny, worst timed joke in the MCU to date

[@augustb7535]

I thought the same way about Thor Ragnarok. Very cheesy 🧀

[@chethammer]

Can you imagine how differently you'd feel about The First Avenger or The Winter Soldier if they'd have cracked jokes in all the serious parts?

[@Zethonring23]

This should've been a low-budget action-thriller in the vein of Jack Reacher/The Bourne Identity, not a $200+ million CGI extravaganza

[@oddjob914]

That’s exactly how I feel about Star Wars: Rogue One. It didn’t need the unnecessary space battles. A $40 million dollar Ocean’s 11 esque heist would work so much better.

[@jlogan2228]

Hell john wick was made on a budget of 20-30 million and proves sometimes simple is better

[@CamPerry]

@@jlogan2228 plus ScarJo did well in Lucy which is the direction they should have went.

[@castortroy1853]

@@jlogan2228 Agreed. It's the best of three, and it's the simplest.

[@glendarjj3991]

@@jlogan2228 yeah sometimes the best films have a really low budget because at the end of the day to make a good film you need skill not money. Take resevoir dogs and even pulp fiction as an example

[@halfbee7886]

Pitch Meeting guy from Screenrant would have a good time with this movie.

[@AveryLedwell]

It’ll probably be barely an inconvenience for him

[@glendarjj3991]

@@AveryLedwell You can't just half the sacred catchphrase like that. Shame on you. I'm sure it would be super easy, barely an inconvenience for him.

[@simoneric]

@@glendarjj3991 ooohhh saying the catchphrase is tight!

[@DaDestroyer1986]

Of course he will. They do all the blockbusters for clickbait’s sake.

[@celicynd]

@@glendarjj3991 Look, I'm gonna need you to get all the way off his back about the half catchphrase thing.

[@shinigami1357]

Task Master was more disappointing than The Mandarin? Well that’s just... ouch

[@king_lanishagi6954]

I CAN HEAR YOU AND NO IM NOT

[@martinmendl1399]

Honestly when I saw Iron Man 3 for the first time, I had no clue about the original comics or the Mandarin character, and I really liked how they did the twist with the villain back than. The Mandarin thing wasn’t bad, it was just very insensitive to the source material

[@JamesTobiasStewart]

For me it says he's worse than even Malekith from Thor the Dark World, a villain whose name I had to look up, he made so little impression.

[@king_lanishagi6954]

@@JamesTobiasStewart HOW DARE YOU SAY IM WORST

[@JamesTobiasStewart]

@@king_lanishagi6954 If its any consolation I am gonna watch your movie anyway, because I've wanted a Black Widow movie for years now, maybe you'll be better than this implies.

[@lharmon5757]

This movie literally feels like it should of came up years ago and made it uninteresting knowing that she dies later on .

[@winterfangirl9857]

Argument against this, if you enjoy the prequel series of Star Wars even if you have have seen the original trilogy

[@ARCtrooperblueleader]

Agreed.

[@johndoe367bell]

@@winterfangirl9857 I didn't enjoy the prequel of star wars and as well as this one.

[@ROGALLYWORLD]

@@johndoe367bell if u don’t enjoy the prequels then u must haven’t seen clone wars 😂 there apart of the prequels and are litterally the most important part

[@johndoe367bell]

@@ROGALLYWORLD yup never seen the clone wars cause it all end up the same. 😂

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Jeremy: "Taskmaster was the most disappointing MCU villain I've seen in the MCU yet" Oh damn, that's a pretty big deal for him to say

[@DBZZNow]

MCU only has like 3 good Villains, so it's not even that surprising.

[@moviewick3207]

@@DBZZNow mcu has the worst villains ever

[@dentrobate54]

@@DBZZNow Thanos, Loki and Killmonger?

[@Erasureeraser]

Ikr, it's like he's a one hit wonder of a villain roles. He's just there to give exposition, fight good guys, dissapeared for a while then appeared again then gets killed off by the hero's without giving any development for himself which is really dissapointing

[@ayushman3359]

Well MCU doesn't have the best villains. I mean loki was a great villain but look how they made him so useless and essentially a punching bag in his own series.

[@dragonhan3309]

This should have been the movie that was bookmarked with Infinity War and Endgame It would have made more sense and been powerful when it came to her death But no... They wanted Captain Marvel

[@giovannigiovanni.7220]

Brie: Is that like a personal attack or something?

[@soullesssenpai1900]

Cause Feigie was banging Queen Brie No talent Larson thats why

[@christiansanchez2088]

@@soullesssenpai1900 Dont attack brie for a movie

[@Inyourbox-kr5uf]

@@christiansanchez2088 it’s Brie as a person that ruined the character. People love captain marvel but she ruined it

[@a.f9234]

@@soullesssenpai1900 wtf

[@futuramayeah]

i was so heartbroken when Yilena whistled at Natasha's grave, and the music stopped playing just as she finished whistling, so i was totally expecting to hear someone whistle back, and my heart was broken again by Elaine from Seinfeld of all people

[@mikejones-wy5hv]

Was Natasha's body in that gave? If so how did they get her back from Vormir?

[@ChewBakaYT]

@@mikejones-wy5hv probably just an empty box, like nick fury

[@JuustJayden]

@@mikejones-wy5hv as much as i wanted her body to be retrieved someone, it's impossible it's Voromir and Hawkeye was teleported away. She was left cold, and alone.

[@olliverdixon3732]

Where does the whistle come from? They did it once at the end and then once in the end credit, it was never like an actual THING

[@nataliekennedy4646]

well Elaine does play a charter from the comics called Madame hydra and she was in the falcon and the winter solider series

[@kin2955]

Why is no one talking about how we aren’t shown how Natasha escaped about 20 cars at the end when they were all pulling up while she was still there?

[@naromngin]

They were like "now Nat..say you're sorry" "Okay, I'm sorry" "okay boys, that's all we wanted. Let's pack up and go"

[@darthcobra8328]

@@naromngin LMFAOOOO

[@GAlvarado]

I said that to myself too but i was like Nah they just blew the budget with that falling outta the sky sequence they're gonna fade to black or something 🤣

[@singavoyeur9681]

Couldn't see have just flown off with the rest and dropped off somewhere safe instead of staying behind?

[@JuustJayden]

The Director talked about it. Left some to imagination as by now everyone knows about her fate anyways and how she wiggles out of tough situations from her training.

[@ToXicB0OtY]

This movie demolished task master. I never thought they would do so bad with such a cool villain, but they found a way. Task master is by far one of the worst villains in the MCU yet

[@plutohendrix2941]

@Capricxrn comic nerds crying about comic accuracy. taskmaster isn’t even in most of the movie to have an effect on its overall quality

[@Operation_Bagel]

@Capricxrn Because she’s a sucky robotic drone of a character who is such an obvious plot twist

[@Operation_Bagel]

@@plutohendrix2941 Ok I’m a nerd, does that make my argument less true?

[@plutohendrix2941]

@@Operation_Bagel idk your argument cuz this isn’t ur post. if it’s that taskmaster was inaccurate or whatever, ur right. boring, predictable? yes. does it make the movie bad? not at all.

[@JH-uh3cc]

@@plutohendrix2941 cause taskmaster was hyped to be the villain of this movie and in the trailer and comics he was badass but instead here we get a girl mind controlled in a costume. It's just sooo much wasted potential, taskmaster didn't make the movie worse but they could've made it better with taskmasyer

[@dtanobo]

They really needed John Wick, Atomic Blonde, The Raid level choreography to justify this movie's standard story. Amazing fight choreography could've gone an insanely long way for something like this.

[@jonnyshanon2103]

Oh that would've been awesome. Laziness! Just cg the crap out of everything now.

[@jaredslabaugh3181]

I was hoping the action would be like the action from Captain America the Winter soldier. It may still surprise me I guess.

[@lajeandom]

I think maybe they had a lot of problems because COViD started in the middle of the production of I'm not mistaken? Anyways it's a shame it would have been nice to have cool choreography

[@adlcnyc]

Shit, even Haywire is a better Black Widow movie. Smh

[@thecrazyslopoke]

@@adlcnyc whoa whoa whoa. Is it really? Cause haywire is hot trash.

[@paparoxo3606]

I think it should've been a more personal story, as we learn more of her past as an assassin, and maybe more violence and drama than spectacle, a more character's driven narrative in, my opinion

[@newempire158]

Should of been rated R

[@pian-0g445]

@@newempire158 doesn’t mean r rated. Winter soldier wasn’t r rated but was greatly written with a consistent tone.

[@thefilmeffect6089]

I've been hoping the MCU would do this years. Black Widow is pretty much what everyone expected it be. They will just continue to play it safe because that's what pays.

[@Lord_ofcinder]

@@thefilmeffect6089 I really hope they dont "play it safe" for doctor strange 2. They said its sort of horror based. Pls lets hope there is no weirdly added comedic scenes. I dont care if they make spiderman or the next thor a comedy because it suits these characters.

[@TheGreatKyrillos]

@@Lord_ofcinder You will be disappointed. Scott Derrickson left the project BECAUSE he wanted to make it darker and more of a horror film. Disney was like, "Nah."

[@brocky]

You're talking about "bathos." Bathos: an effect of anticlimax created by an unintentional lapse in mood from the sublime to the trivial or ridiculous. This is the worst part of MCU. They can't take a chance at drama.

[@ETBrooD]

Well, yeah sort of. They really toned down the bathos during the first third of Endgame, and it worked. Why they immediately go back to the old formula, I don't know.

[@brocky]

@@ETBrooD that's true. Russo brothers are the best MCU directors so far to me. Endgame, Winter Soldier were all on point.

[@brocky]

@@accountantthe3394 that's very true

[@glowerworm]

@@brocky don't forget Game of Thrones season 8! Their masterpiece Lol

[@jaimelannister1797]

@@glowerworm im confused. russos didn’t work on season 8

[@MythosFilmsYT]

This movie is just a last minute attempt to cash in on Black Widow. Let's be real here, it's inexcusable that we got a Captain Marvel movie before Black Widow.

[@yosefyonin6824]

black widow at this phase is at least watchable. if captain marvel would have released now it would have flopped so hard it would crash the floor. di$ney knows what it's doing

[@yosefyonin6824]

@Johny Morisson it was a box office hit solely because of its time of release being so close to end game and people were hyped for every MCU content. most people after watching agree it was subpar at best or a shitty waste of time and money at worst just because a movie is profitable doesn't instantly mean its good

[@yosefyonin6824]

@Johny Morisson Antman and the Wasp WAS a box office hit. and it was a good movie. what are you trying to prove? just because a movie made lots of money doesn't instantly mean it's good. there are plenty of other shitty movies that were super profitable.

[@lowkeylokii4205]

Captain marvel would have done better now than when it released and black widow would've been a hit if it was released when CM was released. But they shot themselves in the foot in the post credit scene by flashing the CM logo at the end of infinity war so they had to follow through

[@F1989C]

Agreed💯💯

[@heavyspoilers]

This is the movie review that sums up my thoughts on the movie the best. Great job.

[@chasemef1]

Hey I know this channel !

[@baskhemjingmutlyngdohmarsh925]

hey Definition!

[@iamyourunbiasedgod2022]

INT. RUSSIA - KITCHEN -- DAY NATASHA rips out a massive FART and TURNS TO THE CAMERA. NATASHA: I've got red in my ledger!!

[@Dragonten312]

Bring me pictures of Spoiler-Man!

[@knk9118]

So I don’t to see your review? Thank god

[@ilyaashussain7560]

I love how Jeremy didn’t even mention Scarlett Johansson in this movie 😂 Edit: wow, never expected this many likes. Thank you guys!

[@rhetiq9989]

Bcs what’s the point of talking about a dead character at this point😂 I mean Natasha, I’m sure Scarlett’s still living and breathing rn

[@subzerowins31]

Cause this movie was more about Yelena,her future as our new black widow,Pugh was fantastic as Yelena and can't wait for her future appearances.

[@MonkeyPowerkey]

True... That can't be a good sign. The tittle character doesn't even get mentioned.

[@entmeister]

@@MonkeyPowerkey 1:20

[@andresgajardo9273]

If that doesn’t say something..

[@rl6757]

I feel like Yelena used sarcasm as a weapon. The joke remarks were her way of deflecting her own pain and redirecting it towards others, her “father”, her “sister”, etc...so, for her I felt the comedy was within her character. It didn’t feel like Marvel being Marvel, it felt like Yelena being Yelena.

[@alexandraschroeder2327]

Yeah, and it'd be really weird too if she just got really serious and personal about that with someone she has seen in 20+ years

[@Toadalinakong]

thats a fair argument but when it's delivered that way it takes away a lot of weight from the actions in the red room so we as an audience dont care about it as much

[@alexandraschroeder2327]

@@Toadalinakong that's a good point I felt like Age of Ultron did a good job establishing some of the horror of the red room, but yeah, having the movie build on that and discuss it seriously probably would've strengthened it

[@jack_meoff69]

🤣

[@davidmagill3099]

Ever since Ragnarok, I realised that the MCU needed to chill on the jokes. See if Blade is a comedy I swear to god.

[@joallen5865]

Ragnarok is a good movie tho

[@joshuajoe1419]

Ok but Ragnorok needed to be a comedy after the serious tones weren’t working with the franchises. That being said most other MCU films should overuse comedy.

[@barrodexteriit.9301]

Thor Ragnarok was the perfect comedic MCU film though but yeah you're right Marvel should tone it down a bit.

[@fatezero8662]

@@joshuajoe1419 What? The first 2 Thor films were far from being serious, those films were just written generically and Thor was bland, but it still had the unecessary Marvel Jokes. Ragnarok made it worse, the only thing they got right was finally make Thor likeable.

[@hailtothevic]

Personally, I think Ragnarok worked as a comedy because the premise is mostly absurd. You can't not laugh at some of the stuff going on and I like how they ran with that. But yeah, Marvel needs to lay off the jokes. There's a time and a place for comedy and it's not every flipping scene!

[@chance_ondriezek99]

The first Marvel movie in over a year. This feels weird, since we’ve gotten two or three a year since 2013

[@Nerwrax15]

Pandemics be like that.

[@Obrienjob98]

Its technical been two years since the last one

[@QuintDunaway]

Over 2 years actually Spider-Man: Far From Home released early July 2019.

[@jctehada]

4 in 2022

[@blackguyofthesouth2161]

@@QuintDunaway Barely over

[@MasterTSayge]

Captain America Winter Soldier had the least jokes of all MCU movies. That's a good thing. 👍🏾

[@jessec.6876]

no winter soldier had tons of fun and comedic moments

[@erykmelgaard2226]

@@jessec.6876 in the very important moments there weren't many jokes.

[@maxim196]

@@jessec.6876 And they all landed like a commercial plane

[@malcolmmiles3603]

The jokes didn't become overbearing until after Guardians of the Galaxy. Every other movie before GotG has jokes but they don't under cut the serious moments

[@jessec.6876]

@@maxim196 no the banter between Natasha and Steve is cute and the movie literally starts out with a funny joke. "On your left"

[@Ashton30000]

It felt like she was still a secondary character in her own movie I’m not sure if anyone else felt that

[@kieroncampion120]

I heard a lot before seeing it and I knew everyone was exaggerating. Reminds me of how Spider-Man Homecoming was being called Iron Man 4 because Robert Downey Jr had about 7 minutes of screentime.

[@angelaarcher2355]

MCU did a disservice to her, and as a female character. The backstory with Hawkeye should have been more fleshed out and why her final sacrifice in Endgame had such importance to herself. It was all glossed over in the name of referencing future movies and series, and introducing new characters. Like MCU said, shit, we need to clear up Budapest. Write something up ASAP.

[@MrKodachii]

@@angelaarcher2355 Honestly, I feel like she had enough for a couple of very good movies. A bit more of growing up as a weapon, first missions, friends lost and made along the way. Meeting up with Hawkeye later on and letting her story breath a bit more before the end. This could have been done better.

[@whatNtarnation90]

@@MrKodachii that's exaclty what I wanted, but knew I wouldn't get. Black Widow isn't super human, the movie should have been a more serious dramatic movie with Hawkeye exploring her and his character, making endgame that much more impactful. This movie was such a lazy piece of shit lol

[@JesusFlores-rw8ry]

yeah it felt like this should have been like a weird sequel

[@A.Zivkovic]

Jeremy's gotten tougher with his scoring over the past 2-3 years. No way this would've gotten a drunk score 5 years ago. I like that his standards are higher.

[@akmalsavan24]

Yeah Right He Gives This A Drunk Score And Then He Gives Hitman’s Wife’s Bodyguard A Positive Review

[@CamPerry]

Honestly most of the reviewers I have seen had confirmed what I expected to this movie to be like.

[@ardent835]

You can't expect MCU movie to half ass it, not after Endgame. If all their movie feel formulaic then why should people sing their praises, MCU needs to step up their game.

[@akmalsavan24]

Wow!! Are U Guys Even Watching The Disney+ Shows From MCU ?

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

@@ardent835 they need a balance

[@hectoradriano3814]

I’m convinced the MCU movie producers straight up have a quip/joke quota for the directors and it’s about a few too high

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

Kevin Feige is who you are talking about

[@torlandobx9671]

@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 Of course it would be Kevin Feige. Got to add that Humor. Can't have too much High Stakes now.

[@kieroncampion120]

@@torlandobx9671 The stakes higher in Marvel movies simply because the audience likes the characters. And the main reason why they like the characters? That's right, humour.

[@lye27]

@@kieroncampion120 its not when you place jokes in an inproppriate scenes

[@kieroncampion120]

@@lye27 you could call any scene inaproppriate and get away with it. Were they cracking jokes at a strangers funeral?

[@jbtwofour]

“Fans wanted their Black Widow movie” since Iron Man 2. It should have come out in place of Captain -Cardboard- Marvel. Would’ve given her death more of an impact having spent that two hours with her. Bottom line, they dropped the ball on an amazing character.

[@erintoney7137]

@@judeanthonygross they only introduced her to have some way of getting Tony out of space. Other than that, her presence would not have been missed in the movie.

[@chad6738]

@@erintoney7137 ya and they didn't even need her for that. They could of just wrote in Tony fixing the ship. I mean time travel went from absolutely laughably impossible to totally possible in 2 seconds. From flipping something upside down.

[@akiohe1079]

@@chad6738 and they literally took the scene from superman/batman: public enemies. CM did not set up anything at all.

[@chad6738]

@@akiohe1079 I do love batman/ superman public enemies. I always found it weird how DC dominates marvel in animated and reversed in live action. I feel like if they could even come close to replicating the animated, DC would rule.

[@NoirNameless]

@@chad6738 People think I’m crazy when I say this. Bigger marvel fan, but when DC gets their shit together live action for an actual universe, it’s gonna dominate so hard if they do it correctly. I also believe their solo movies would be better than marvels, too.

[@jamesguerrero3373]

This movie starts off so strong and then doesn't use the potential to its fullest. I had a good time watching it, just wish the stakes throughout the movie felt as high as they do in the beginning

[@abdmin3268]

It should be before infinity war

[@declanfeeney7004]

Exactly, has a great opening credits sequence but just goes downhill from there

[@illimattic]

The opening sequence wasnt even that good but it did make you believe that the movie was gonna be better than the crap we got.

[@MyZ001]

@Xavier Rodriguez Ehh, that's inconsistent. You enjoyed a movie while watching the movie. So, it's an enjoyable movie. Later, you realized it's not actually a good movie. Ok, but you still enjoyed it right? Guess, you gotta view it a 2nd time to see if it's still enjoyable after your epiphany... I'm not actually talking shit either. The same thing happened to me with The Last Jedi. I enjoyed it in theaters. Then when talking to a friend about it and describing the things I didn't like about it, I realized how bad it was. I tried to rewatch it when it came to streaming and now all I can see is all the shit that I didn't like about it. Like, the movie is SO BAD, haha

[@MyZ001]

@Xavier Rodriguez Yea, blame my enjoyment of TLJ on the "theater experience". I know that's what happened for a lot of people with Force Awakens cause I watched it at home for my 1st viewing and thought it was terrible. Months later, all the hype for it had died down, and people were starting to change their minds about how good it was

[@jaimeerindy4573]

I was curious as to how they were going to justify this movie's existence and that's cool how they just... didn't

[@Jelloooo03]

Interesting, is it worth seeing it in the thertre?

[@trevonte3723]

It’s purpose is basically bringing in yelena and setting up future things in the MCU excluding the main character because she met her demise in a previous film lol

[@philhanton4433]

@@Jelloooo03 yep it’s very very good

[@PepperonibeatsZombie]

The movie did introduce Elena’s character, and now we know that she’s involved with Valentina

[@spirittammyk]

@@trevonte3723 Unless there is some way Natasha is brought back after Steve returns the stones and she's stuck in another planet with no way home.

[@blackdragon6]

Marvel (more likely Disney) love undermining tension with jokes. At least when it comes to the movies. It's frustrating and annoying.

[@j-meister8710]

Agents of Shield carried more weight than the whole MCU

[@alwaysxnever]

I am loving how more fans and reviewers are mentioning this more and more. It's why I will watch a review, but am done with the movies. So little has weight and scenes aren't allowed to breathe.

[@startenderspacebar]

Watch DC if you want “tension”

[@nathanhernandez7173]

It’s a disney thing, look at the star wars sequels

[@blackdragon6]

@@nathanhernandez7173 but then there was Rogue One. Probably the only good Disney era Star Wars film imo.

[@CaptainCJ97]

Glad more are calling out the mcu on the overused jokes

[@Raf8347]

it's been getting tiring at this point, especially after Endgame

[@ardent835]

Winter Soldier was the perfect balance between serious and comedic tone, even Civil War to some extent.

[@kwasiquartey]

Am just surprised nobody called out Thor Ragnarok,,, that was just bad

[@tien5tri]

They became the biggest and most successful studio and franchise due to the tone jokes and story. Why would they change it? You're in the extreme minority hating on their jokes. The dcu failed bcuz they tried to go against that successful formula.

[@ardent835]

@@tien5tri Star Wars sequel trilogy failed because of that and so did many of Disney remakes, so go back to the sewers you crawled out of.

Completely agree with the "jokes" thing. It happens a lot in the MCU in general, but they´ve overdone it in this one. And some action sequences (like the helicopter in the prison thing) were SO unrealistic that it felt like I was watching a parody or something. But I think the main problem in this film (SPOILERS) is that it makes no sense how the characters act when they first get together after many years apart. It´s like they are just trying to fool you, the viewer, for no reason at all (later, when they are in front of the villains, we know that they were pretending, but it make no sense for them to act like that when they were alone).

[@dasik84]

I don't. I've never ever understood those complaints. WHY would anyone dislike the jokes? They are what makes MCU so popular. They bring balance into the movies.

[@thirdplanet4471]

Is Marvel suppose to be realistic?

[@trevorphilips9065]

@@thirdplanet4471 When they want to make emotional moments sure

[@papanutt1327]

@@dasik84 why should I take the movie serious when it doesnt take itself seriously. It's alright for marvel to have funny little jokes and stuff but when moments that should be emotional are ruined with a joke its just annoying

[@dasik84]

@@papanutt1327 Since when you should take MCU movies seriously?

[@LeoMakar1]

I fucks with Jeremy. He keeps it real. No sugar coating.

[@fanfusion4276]

@@eternalnjem Stuckmann literally gave this movie a C… idk what you’re talking about

[@eternalnjem]

@@fanfusion4276 ?

[@storymaster21]

well he is lying. film does not come out for another 3 days. no way he already saw the film

[@ardent835]

@@storymaster21 early screening link from Disney you idiot, Disney sent them to Jeremy, Chris Stuckmann, Angry Joe, IGN and many others.

[@fanfusion4276]

@Mickey Mouse I might’ve meant to reply to a different comment, that’s my bad (there was definitely one that mentioned Stuckmann)

[@MattaTron1000]

The moment from Guardians Of The Galaxy: Vol 2 when Yondu sacrificed himself for Starlord was one of the best emotional moments of the MCU that is not deflected with a joke.

[@peter.24.7]

Well, they're only human, they're bound to occasionally miss one.

[@RoninXDarknight]

I think there's more moments like that in the MCU than Jeremy is giving it credit for. Not saying he's completely wrong, mind you, but rather that they're not really the white whales he's kinda implying they are. Tony talking to a dying Yelsen. Steve talking to Peggy while going down with the airship. Thor failing to lift Myollnir. Natasha & Clint's fight in End Game. Tony's death and a lot of the subsequent related events from Far From Home. Just a few from off the top of my head but there's definitely more.

[@MattaTron1000]

@@RoninXDarknight Yep your absolutely right. I was naming Guardians 2 as one of my favorites.

[@MattaTron1000]

@@thisspaceforrent5737 Totally agree.

[@MattaTron1000]

@@peter.24.7 So true lol

[@jasonpypsaeris4643]

Florence stole the movie for me. Her character was far and away more interesting than Natasha. Plus she was even more entertaining.

[@KRYMauL]

I think she's the new main Black Widow.

[@jaggin7561]

She was awesome!!!

[@Sam-vc5oq]

i agree that she did an amazing job but i felt like she had a little too much screen time and the movie felt like it was about her instead of Natasha

[@KRYMauL]

@@Sam-vc5oq I mean she is the new Widow.

[@TR-ry1xv]

The movie is called black widow. Maybe it is meant to feel bigger than just Natasha

[@artfire28]

The only thing I'm looking forward to is Yelena clashing with Clint and his successor to become the future Hawkeye.

[@DHynes5]

I just want to know who the hell Valentina really is (since neither this or FATWS informed us) and how she knows that Hawkeye had any involvement with Nat's death!

[@artfire28]

@@DHynes5 She doesn't know the full story yet but us the audience. Val and the Red Skull might be in cahoots with one another(joke).

[@HPGIRL1109]

@@DHynes5 can't answer the second one, but in the comics she's madame hydra among other things. it seems she's either getting together the dark avengers, thunderbolts, or both. we'll see I guess.

[@deadartist8827]

Sounds lame af.

[@chatsash36]

I keep hearing that 'people are getting tired of superhero movies' when the actual verdict (imo) is that people are getting tired of seeing the same superhero movie again and again with different faces...

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

I feel that’s been a problem even before the MCU, even adaptations across have repetitive themes as well as cliche stories

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

I wish only the Romance genre got this much complaints

[@ardent835]

That's actually a really good point, Joker is the only one that went in a different direction.

[@reizak8966]

Yup. I love me some super heroes, but I get more enjoyment out of the shows and cartoons. They're not afraid to take risks and write complicated characters and unique stories. (Just not the arrowverse shows. They overstay their welcome. Love smallville though.)

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

@@reizak8966 what makes “compelling” characters? Does everything need to have risk all the damn time. What’s wrong with a few low stakes movies ?

[@justin96130]

It sounds like that Spider-Man No Way Home and Doctor Strange 2 need to be really good to keep people super interested in the MCU.

[@andrewlarrick2125]

Well they do also have the MCU Disney plus shows which have been pretty great and people have been invested in

[@viktormuerte]

I think the series are doing a good job of keeping people interested in the MCU.

[@charliecarbajal8656]

The Disney plus shows have been great, WandaVision, falcon and the winter soldier and Loki have been great. Fans are already interested in what’s next. Idk why people are assuming MCU is getting boring. Phase 4 started earlier this year and has been on a roll. Alright black widow was decent, but it’s a prequel. We still have The Eternals and Spider-Man no way home this year. And still have 2-3 other Disney plus shows.

[@aviram7129]

The series are doing their part aswell especially Loki

[@kidoliva]

@@viktormuerte I guess you haven't seen the latest numbers on Disney+ series. They are not doing well. People arw checking out

[@TerminatorJuice]

I'm starting to see more reviewers who are finally acknowledging the over use of humor in the MCU movies, which is used to cover up any real emotional weight of a scene... Something I've felt since 2012's The Avengers when Tony fell from the sky and the end and woke up with a lame joke about liking a restaurant.

[@borek92]

I know right? I kinda like the Marvel movies, I don't love them, the only one I really loved were Guardians and Ant-Man, the rest I kind of... watch just to get the whole picturer, kind of enjoy, but I'm not into them, I don't read up, I don't watch trailers, I don't much care, mainly because they try to be taken seriously and then hit you with this 6th grade humor... on every turn. So many dramatical moments ruined by out of place joke. It always got on my nerves, I'm surprised it took some people this long to see it. Oh well.

[@brycebitetti1402]

@@borek92 I think the best MCU entries are the least comedic ones. Winter Soldier, Civil War, Infinity War, and Endgame, while some of them do still run into the problem at times, are the only MCU films that got me emotionally because they didn't cut off their emotional beats with jokes.

[@YazielEsquivel23]

@@brycebitetti1402 Endgame is one of the least comedic ones? I have to disagree with you, the movie was filled with stupid jokes.

[@eanderson9599]

@@YazielEsquivel23 winter soldier is the only MCU movie I can think of that didn’t rely on jokes

[@kennethparker730]

Remember, it's DISNEY'S Marvel. They aren't going to let things get too serious, unless it's animated. Then again, they stepped out on a limb with Cruella.

[@thaboxaba4321]

Man you’re 100% spot on, just didn’t feel a connection at all. Took too long to get to the action, comedy was too corny

[@marcusfox7001]

movie is a bottom five mcu movie tbh

[@capandcheese]

I don’t know about everyone else but a prequel movie specifically about a character we already know their fate just does not interest me. Like Solo A Star Wars Story. Just a safe and predictable movie with no stakes.

[@froschkenig]

Well, you could have stakes, but they cannot be about the main characters live. Could be about relationships they have, side-characters etc.

[@bbjj0909]

what about red dead redemption 2. (spoilers if you read more) you kinda know that the main character will die since he wasnt in rdr 1 and it was shown that he had tuberculosis. even then a lot of poeple got emotional over his death

[@benzaiten933]

same, since BW is already dead what is the point? sure, knowing about her more might be interesting but we know it'll lead to nowhere since she won't appear in new MCU movies/properties anymore anyway. this movie simply came out way too late.

[@montanadash20]

Same... Well put

[@montanadash20]

@@bbjj0909 i get your point but thats story telling through an interactive experience. Its a little different when you have control of the story being told. Also RDR2 was a frekin FANTASTIC game either way!!!!

[@baldwin29w]

I completely agree with Jeremy about the MCU & its over usage of jokes or lackluster villains (with exception to Thanos). But unfortunately they're NEVER gonna stop doing that crap for one reason - "The family oriented audience". Too many people with kids ect.. see these movies and make up a huge percentage of its revenue so they ain't gonna alienate that pocket of fans by making less kid friendly movies. So stupid jokes & the same old same old formula is the money maker for MCU until people finally get tired of superhero movies

[@mdsupreme1776]

Bingo

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

As someone who enjoys lighthearted humor and low stakes and the “generic MCU formula” , I was not a fan of A Cat Scratching Nick Fury’s eye and saw someone argue that “That’s the fun about Marvel!!”

[@NoirNameless]

@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 That was incredibly disappointing. It’s almost like the writers got to the end and realized they forgot to write how he got his eye damaged, and just chose to do that. So sad after him speaking on how he lost it by trusting someone to Cap in TWS.

[@johnathancooper5753]

Yes, you have it exactly right. Especially with Disney as the head investor, their goals are (1)"family-oriented" and I would add, (2)international appeal. I can tell you by living in South America, the "Marvel formula" is beloved. Whereas stuff like DCEU is "eh" to people here. if you don't like it, there are PLENTY of adult content out there. HBO, Apple TV, Invincible, The Boys, etc. Almost everything else out there is "mature" in content.) But Marvel wants to keep destroying the box office, (they want that money), and you don't do that by making content that is "mature". (People praised something like Deadpool making a lot of money though it was rated R, but even those movies had several potty, "childish" humor moments mixed in with the adult jokes. Yes, that is Deadpool's character, but it shows that majority of people like silliness, for lack of a better word.) I give them credit for making something that in this divisive world, people of diverse backgrounds, different cultures, and even people from countries that are currently at war with each other, can all find some enjoyment in watching. Again, if you don't like it, don't watch it. There is more content out there that is not like Marvel than there are things like Marvel.

[@mikeysmonarchs]

Had to comment because i noticed we have almost an identical profile picture. I did a double take when i saw your comment 🤣🤣🤣

[@Adi.Priya1]

Look at Jeremy's face, this is what loosing interest looks like.

[@caseyglover7298]

@Super salty Honestly as a fan of Jeremy's since about 2013, I can say he seems to just be losing interest in general. 2017 onward he seems to just be less and less interested in movies in general.

[@Adi.Priya1]

@Super salty Oh no no..don't worry, Jeremy is fine. I am talking about BLACK WIDOW specifically. With Wanda vision, loki, eternals, and phase 4 already in line, basically the interest is lost in the black widow origin story.

[@thebatman4279]

@@caseyglover7298 Not surprising really, movies are getting worse by the year.

[@Adi.Priya1]

@Super salty Truly said...we people who grew up with phase 3 for last 10 years, now our heroes being gone or retired, the relevance is fading.

[@JonnyTobinMusic]

I think the Disney+ shows are far more interesting than what's going on with the films

[@alexanderamaya6977]

The Best: Florence's Pugh Yelens The Worst: Taskmaster

[@aje8790]

I agree

[@MrGenexxx]

Nah Red Guardian was the best. Yelena’s accent was too horrible at times.

[@haileygoofy8454]

My only gripe was that in Natasha's eyes Taskmaster wasn't supposed to be a villain. She was a victim.

[@JoakimOtamaa]

@@MrGenexxx RG was written as a complete moron when they got back from the flashback. I wanted him to kick some major ass, David Harbour is very likable and was one of the highlights of this pretty bland movie. I hate when they write guys either idiotic or assholes to make women look better. Just look how they completely changed Scott Lang from Ant-Man to Ant-Man & The Wasp.

[@Milesknight319]

I loooooove how Jeremy is non biased on every film he reviews and keeps it real. I really appreciate this channel more and more.

[@kieroncampion120]

I loooooooooooove reviewers only get called non biased when they're bashing something. It's literally the only time this happens.

[@Em-Bee]

It was a huge mistake making this movie after the character is already dead.

[@Savataric]

Not really feiges fault blame the person who declined it which took them a long time

[@samuelmyth8392]

@@Savataric ike perlmater or whatever the fuck his name is

[@Savataric]

@@samuelmyth8392 yeah that piece of shit made black widow release overdue more than it should’ve been

[@flyany6682]

Here's the thing if they killed Hawkeye in Endgame instead this movie would've made way more sense! 🤦‍♂️

[@Savataric]

@@flyany6682 but the death scene for the soul stone would suck and it’s more of planning and where to place it

[@BB-ed4om]

First half was epic! Red guardian being a weak joke was so disappointing.

[@The3rdGunman]

That's #1 issue with Dizney Marvel....Since Endgame, the men characters are all super-beta, comic-relief, "supporting" charcters.

[@herloss448]

first half was epic? did u watch the same garbage i watched? the only thing good was opening credits

[@The3rdGunman]

@@herloss448 I mean think about it... 1st Ant-Man, Scott was a competent professional Ocean's 11 level thief. Sequel...He's dumb, comic relief and 2nd banana in his own sequel. GotG2 on...Star-Lord is no longer the confident adorkable hero, he's an arrogant, childish comic relief d-bag who thinks he's in control but Gamora is the strong one. Even Drax's comedy is changed from the straight guy who doesn't get metaphors, to cracking jokes and being dumb because he's muscular. Thor, turned into a parody of himself and a drunk, Hulk don't smash $#!t in Infinity War or Endgame but by the latter is tamed into a Banner/Hulk beta who signs autographs for kids. Tom Holland is directed to play Spiderman as a whiney, love-struck simp, who is constantly under "MJ's" teasing or needing daddy Stark. Dr. Strange, a highly educated (aka privileged white male) is sidelined in Infinity War & Endgame with a small part, is removed from the Wandavision finale to avoid a "white savior", and is having his own sequel rescripted to feature less of him. Loki is not menacing as he should but is played for laughs in Ragnorak, Endgame, and his own show. Bucky, the final frontier for an "angry white guy" and when he yells or gets aggressive we get a BLM moment for Sam... And people have the nerve to get excited about "Blade". They'll probably change his origin to have his mother get bit by a vampire cop. I challenge ANYONE to list a single flaw of any of the female characters in the Marvel shows or movies Yeah people...enjoy your M-SHE-U

[@Mr_Cinematic]

Yoooo if you liked this you should check out my black widow RANT

[@maineman5757]

@@The3rdGunman Loki feels off in his show. My only hope is he has been putting on an act this whole time and is ready to double cross everyone in the finale...

[@miku5840]

What's good about the opening scene is that for once, an MCU movie felt so different. But yeah. Just that part. CA:WinterSoldier makes a much better spy movie. At this point, I bet Doctor Strange 2 which supposed to be kinda horror will be as generic as this.

[@blakeellis7417]

I like that Jeremy is real about it and not just an MCU kiss ass. Still though I love the Mcu lol

[@chesterparish3794]

Same here.

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

@@chesterparish3794 yeah it’s overhated and overvalued simultaneously

[@StephenIC]

@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 I think people should stop analysing what the general consensus is and just have their own opinions. Who care if the zeitgeist likes or hates the MCU at this particular moment?

[@Mr_Cinematic]

Yoooooo if you liked this you should check out my black widow RANT

[@kermitthefrog5028]

It’s sad when you watch adult comedies that can handle serious moments and balance comedy better than the MCU

[@abdullahiqbal1110]

Never have too much hype. Like Martin Scorsese said: mcu movies are mediocre, but that doesn't mean it isn't fun.

[@tommatt2901]

@@abdullahiqbal1110 endgame was definitely amazing tho especially infinity war they have the perfect villain

[@abhayrohit]

Yes Even some full time comedies like The Office, Friends, etc can manage to flourish the Emotional Moments well

[@KoolKeithProductions]

Let's stop the nonsense. Comedy isnt an "mcu problem". It's a bad writing problem, and Black Widow had bad writing. When half the Avengers died, did Marvel play that up for laughs? No, they sent your azz home sad and weepy and it was one of the most bold things ive ever seen in a movie. Hell, we just saw that when Mobius and Loki were pruned, neither were played up for laughs, so cut the crap. Black Widow was just a badly written movie. Nothing more, nothing less.

[@HandyHanderson]

" *_So dark, you sure you're not from the DC Universe?_* "

[@SadBlueGirl]

The way they deflect drama with jokes should be dubbed “Drama Cucking”

[@chase7629]

You could even modify it for family friendly with drama ducking, or modulate your uses depending on how much you hate it

[@RyuShinkuuHadoken]

Black panther has been the only MCU where they let the dramatic scenes just develop without throwing dumb jokes.

[@pradeepdungdung4379]

that's an actual phrase right? if not then someone should solidify that

[@IsaiahRidleyIzzyCinema]

@@RyuShinkuuHadoken "Winter Soldier" and both "Guardians of the Galaxy" accomplished that concept very well too.

[@chofferz4658]

@@IsaiahRidleyIzzyCinema until guardians 2. *shoots ego* "You killed my mother!" "I tried so hard to find the form that best suited you!" *turns into David Hasslehoff*

[@northwind2538]

Yelena's response to "Is it your time of the month?" was actually entirely improvised. The director was gonna cut that line from Red Guardian completely because it was written by a man but she kept it in due to Florence's improvised response to it.

[@DanielSilva-gz1dy]

It was the funniest part of the move so I’m glad they kept it in

[@captainpinky8307]

because it was written by a man......what is this the USSR?

[@colten53]

I’m glad Florence at least pays attention to continuity to remember that Age of Ultron plot point off the top of her head

[@dasik84]

If this is true, then the director is incredibly sexist and a very bad person. If she only cares whether a line was written by man or woman, then she's someone who shouldn't even get such opportunity.

[@northwind2538]

@@dasik84 Red Guardian literally said "Is it your time of the month?" in response to a woman being angry. THAT is sexist and I would've been totally ok if the line wasn't in the movie but Florence turned it into a hilarious moment through improv. But sure, direct your disappointment towards the director for not wanting to perpetuate misogyny lmao.

[@Christian4everish]

One thing I cannot stand about the MCU is they get these passes on their movies. They can literally put out a trash movie and for some reason it receives positive reviews. I do not want them to be content with a lot of their content because a lot of their content is plain right mediocre when it can be so much more. Appreciate the review. I wish they went a different tone with this movie like 007 or John Wick style. It didn't have to be rated R but imagine a Black Widow fight scene that took inspiration from the Daredevil TV Show in one take. She is one character you can up the drama and lessen the humor for it to work. Obviously I have not seen the movie yet and will give my opinion when I do but from what I have seen I imagine I will linger more on this side of the review.

[@HeavyMetal-jy4vj]

DC fans complained about that forever, when they make a decent movie there is always a lot of hyper criticism but nobody cares what we say lol but finally MCU fans are allowing themselves to be honest about things.

[@sundaypikachu1844]

Because 'woke' earns them brownie points with movie critics. So as the quality of the movies have gone down since Age of Ultron, the wokeness is carrying the movies with the critics. Captain Marvel's Rotten Tomatoes score was 87% after the review embargo was lifted, getting as high as 91%. At the same time, critics admitted it wasn't that great, but it was a movie with representation.

[@kieroncampion120]

You're first mistake is thinking your definition of trash is the be all and end all. Zack Snyder's Justice League is easily the worst comic book movie ever made in my opinion, but other people liked it for some reason. Maybe you should think harder about why people liked the films you didn't.

[@javierr.marcial6604]

@@kieroncampion120 Just reading through comments and noticed that the post didn’t mention DC, you just assumed because marvel is life and you must protect and whatever criticism Marvel gets must be dealt with against DC even though it has nothing to do with them. Cinema doesn’t revolve around comic book films, explore, I dare you.

[@Remix36720]

@@kieroncampion120I’m curious what comic book movies you’ve seen lol. Even if you don’t like ZSJL it’s far better than something like Catwoman or Superman III & IV. Or even Elektra, X-men Origins Wolverine and the original 2017 Justice League…….

[@zachtemoro2116]

Just saw the movie, I didn’t think you could butcher Task Master but this movie somehow pulled it off ... I’m not even kidding it’s literally a bait and switch for a gachya moment that you saw coming a mile away but you wanted to deny

[@Sean-nr3ts]

I think it's easy to say a lot of us who knew the character of taskmaster know we would be in a treat of the action scenes they were going to show when seeing the first trailer for black widow. But I agree, they baited us in with a great antagonist and used him to be exclusively made for the vision of this movie. Changes like this make me feel like phase 4 will end in our hearts before it will start, and take a 2015 star wars route into doing things. I'm losing fucking hope.

[@SharttyWaffle]

Thats what happens when you get a female director that doesn't read comics. This is exactly whats happening with star wars

[@King9tails]

Taskmaster is such a waste of a character! Taskmaster would be cool and wish they kept that character around even for the Hawkeye series. Like have that character return for the series to fight Hawkeye…but no! They just get rid of it.

[@trembledust6819]

yup. from the onset when they started showing more and more of taskmaster u just knew...wait...what da hell did they do? NOOOOOOOOO!!!

[@whoman03]

@@King9tails well remember, taskmaster isn't dead, yelena is coming after Hawkeye and she has the Black Widows with her (including taskmaster) so that's still very possible.

[@GeekingAround]

I like when he talks about the “Joke Problem” that MCU have. I been complaining about this forever. Every time there a great emotional/serious scene it gets ruined by some stupid joke. And totally agree with everyone else, we should had gotten this movie way before Endgame.

[@Justsomerandomguy951]

And I’m in the minority of people that felt sooooo overwhelmed with the jokes in Ragnarok. Especially when Asgard got destroyed. They should’ve let that scene settle and let the devastation of their home world being destroyed, but no, a goddamn joke had to be shoehorned in their to undercut that dramatic moment. 😪

[@AS-ri1mb]

@@Justsomerandomguy951 Ragnarok is literally the only thing the Norse gods really took seriously. And the MCU turned it into a joke fest. 😭

[@Justsomerandomguy951]

@@AS-ri1mb EXACTLY!! And I think they wanted to go the darker route at first, but after GotG, they saw the success of that and went the jokey way 😪

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

@@Justsomerandomguy951 same happened with Dr. Strange, the second trailer for that movie looked way better than the actual movie. It didn’t help Feige hired Dan Harmon to constantly add unnecessary jokes in there after post production, and most of the Dr Strange reviews I saw… NOBODY BROUGHT IT UP!!!!!!

[@Justsomerandomguy951]

@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 unfortunately, only Marvel gets away with shit like this. If it didn’t have the Marvel Studios logo on it, it would get a lot of scrutiny smh

[@primusfan87]

The motto of the MCU: when a situation gets too heavy, deflect with a joke

[@dasik84]

And it's great motto.

[@TheRebornJuker]

@@dasik84 yikes

[@DonBlackBird71]

The streak of Disney blowing their female centric movies continues. Man I was so pumped for this movie, FUCK !

[@travistotle]

OR... maybe just watch it and make up your own mind about it, rather than just putting all your stock in what some random guy thinks?

[@DonBlackBird71]

@@travistotle sure imma watch it but I've trusted Jeremy's word for about 7 years now, so not a random review for me

[@kystyty3519]

84% on rotten tomatoes. Just one guy's opinion don't worry.

[@encryptedwolf7623]

Jeremy is a trusted source and he saved me money with this review. It's pretty much what I expected their motivations for making this movie was going to be, and if I would've spent time and money to see this I honestly would've been pissed. So, thanks again Jeremy. Good looking out.

[@getaround1]

@@travistotle i Totally agree with you 100%, but $30 is alot for a movie I'm most likely not gonna like, but that's just me since I'm a cheapskate.

[@bryanfernandez246]

Hearing that Taskmaster is disappointing, is extremely disappointing. I was REALLY looking forward to seeing him in the MCU :/

[@ferrarriohh]

Same Until i saw his mcu costume! CoD Warzone Ghost skin is a better live action Taskmaster

[@moviewick3207]

@@ferrarriohh I haven't seen the movie, but why taskmaster is looking like a girl.

[@kystyty3519]

Taskmaster is the type of villain to pop up in multiple storylines, don't worry!

[@NeverSaySandwich1]

*her

[@ayushman3359]

@@moviewick3207 spoiler

[@superiordhp]

"When it gets too heavy, we deflect with a joke" Spiderman (both movies) summarized in one sentence. Hope the third will leave this perspective.

[@windowsVD]

I can't see that happening given that it's still the same team behind it.

[@Grim187Grey]

I've honestly felt that The new Spiderman movies are just teenage date movies. They don't feel like Spiderman superhero stories, to me. How did Sony find writers that made the Spiderman video game feel more like a Superhero epic, than Disney-backed Hollywood guys?

[@superiordhp]

@@Grim187Grey it's easy, they had the base mold, sam raimi trilogy, spectacular Spiderman, into the spiderverse, wth, even the TASM 1-2 always stick to the roots. That's why both spiderman and miles Ps games are amazing, cause they have the foundation who Spiderman really is. Even they manage to made Venom a good and fun movie did they?

[@Entreped]

My biggest problem with the new Spiderman movies is that it's a kid. They won't stop doing the damn kid angle. Spiderman on the PS4 was amazing in that we finally got a Peter Parker that was experienced. Hollywood keeps wanting to do the same rehashed Spiderman story over and over and over again. And it's beyond old at this point. You know what would break the box office? An adult Spiderman movie that's dark and gritty (The Dark Knight) and is rated R. There you go Hollywood, I just broke the box office for you. These people have so much damn material to work with but they won't take risks and they think they know better then the people who already created these stories. So instead we get mediocre garbage that's marketable instead of the stories from the comics that already did it better decades ago.

[@someoneanyone3965]

@@Entreped Don’t know what to tell to you, but him being a so called kid is what made him so relatable and likeable when he first came out?🤨

[@MinnieMousey06]

the best part of the movie was the first 10 minutes. i wanted to see an actual origin story type thing

[@nathanieldiaz5254]

I thought that flashback was way too long and that it was only that way to give David Harbour and Rachel Weisz more screen time.

[@sethanderson542]

I’m glad Jim Hopper is doing well in Russia, was getting a bit worried…

[@NeverSaySandwich1]

I think you mean Jim Henson

[@jbjb430]

I see what you did there.

[@amankumarshaw5407]

Nice one

[@MsMaydayGoingDown]

I've seen this joke on like 7 other Black Widow. It get me every time, but still...

[@peter.24.7]

@@NeverSaySandwich1 Damn you, I can't stop giggling......

[@eatatjoe]

This movie was just...really late in the game, shoved aside for Blockbuster: the 90s.

[@eh7178]

Another reason why the Netflix Marvel shows need to make a return they took every risk that Disney doesn’t and made it work beautifully

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

Daredevil was really great

[@Owl_Coup_Productions]

I even liked iron fist (as a corporate drama, not a super hero show)

[@meosies1910]

I am sad and also kinda relIeved they ended the shows, cause otherwise disney would have interfered and made it a typical mcu comedy. It's better to see a hero die an honourable death than see him laying there paralyzed.

[@mar1am622]

unfortunately corporate drama between disney+ and netflix won't let that happen. I heard marvel is bringing charlie cox back for some movies and if so I pray that they don't screw up such a great character

[@benzaiten933]

@@mar1am622 I heard rumors as well but I fear it will not be the same, they'll likely only make him a side-note to their 'bigger' stars. but we shall see.

[@whm_w8833]

On her joke, it’s dark humor. It fits nicely in the scene because, sometimes, we retort that has bad events with a dark humor. It’s like a solider reciting dog bomb joke. Alexis didn’t laugh but he understand screwed up. It is effective. Agreed with taskmaster though. That’s Proto-taskmaster, not taskmaster.

[@JIG-vn8sc]

I'm sensing franchise fatigue is starting to set in for the MCU

[@TheCaliforniaboy1]

Same. Too much of the same thing in every movie.

[@ndo533]

Nah. Wait till spider man drops. MCU fans go gaga over Tom holland. It's so weird bc to me Far From Home was so bad 😂

[@YazielEsquivel23]

@@ndo533 it wasn't bad, it was the worst Spider-man movie imo

[@PeterGriffin11]

Possibly but WandaVision was a big success and I think the Falcon show did well but apparently Loki has seen a drop in viewership with its 3rd episode and it seems that both Shang-Chi & The Eternals are banned in China so they probably won’t make as much money and I guess this Black Widow movie isn’t getting good reviews either so perhaps people are getting tired of not only the MCU but live action Superhero related media in general but only time will tell.

[@TheMaleRei]

@@PeterGriffin11 Whelp, if WandaVision was a big success, even with Wanda imprisoning and torturing an entire town, with a hero being a villain, and said hero, rather than turning herself in for judgement / punishment / therapy / etc instead runs away, and Monica Rambeau goes - "[Those you tortured for days and weeks on end] will never know what you sacrificed" - then Disney can do no wrong according to its fanbase.

[@dswynne]

This movie should have been released after Infinity War, with the events taken place during the five-year "Skip", when the world was still in a state of chaos.

[@triple-d2640]

That actually makes sense.

[@gtamovies3794]

Oh you stole my script I posted this on Chris Stuckman page‼️😒😠😂

[@gtamovies3794]

🤔🤓This film should have taken place and came out immediately after Infinity War showing the apocalyptic events that happened after the snap. We would’ve actually felt the Avengers being missing and it could shown how Hawkeye became Ronin. Dedicate half that film to show grief instead of half of Endgame. It would’ve felt like the snap was final if they jumped 2 years in that film and then 3 years in Endgame but they went with Antman 2😒 Her death would’ve had 10xs more impact and they wouldn’t be making a pointless movie when we already knows she dead

[@melc_91]

Yup

[@KotorFan-zb1bo]

Problem is, Johanson was locked into a prior contract made by isacc pearlmutter that said she could only do team up films as black widow

[@aaronbeecher9809]

When a serious dramatic moment occurs, people turn it into a meme 😔

[@lukelim5094]

Think Aaron, think! Why does this keep happening?

[@kieroncampion120]

@@lukelim5094 Because normal people are not emo teenagers.

[@MrBigblack62]

People only meme dramatic stuff BECAUSE it was good enough to hold their attention and be talked about. You know what other movie does that, cut to a gag bit too often? Thor: Ragnarok. Guess what movie has no memes.

[@anutshell2426]

@@kieroncampion120 it's nice of you to imply teenagers who are emotional aren't normal people, Kieron. A person who glorifies a series of popcorn movies where people save the day by punching something really hard has the authority for that.

[@kieroncampion120]

@@anutshell2426I wasn't implying. I was stating emo (not emotional) teens ARE NOT NORMAL.

[@0penthaughtz]

This movie should have been better than it actually was, it started to fall apart right after 2/3'ds of the way through. Also Jeremy please go on Friday night tights!

[@deadartist8827]

He is unwanted there thou.

[@CruderQuotient1]

Remember when Asgard, Thor and Loki's home is destroyed right in front of them and a second later they just joke about it....

[@kieroncampion120]

A coping mechanism. Soldiers do that all the time.

[@ferrarriohh]

@@kieroncampion120 No fking soldier will ever make a joke if his house is destroyed and his father died, and 3 of his mates are murdered (along with countless member of his nation) in the same day. You’re talking about a psychopath.

[@tommatt2901]

@@ferrarriohh no one is a psychopath for doing something in order to cope like making jokes, especially soldiers who have been trumatized, many people use jokes as a coping mechanism, it’s not a bad thing

[@ferrarriohh]

@@tommatt2901 im not belittling the action, im saying the example is too far off the mark to ring true. Dog gets hit by car, daughter gets pregnant, or wife maxes out credit card, yes. Asgard destroyed, Odin dead, Warriors 3 slaughtered by Hela along with half the population, cmon.

[@Trufe_about_Gaming]

I agree. Everyone loves Thor: Ragnarok but as good as it was that movie was literally a comedy.

[@leyenda6149]

I hate that movie

[@dorkknight7225]

The jokes were funny too, but this movie felt like i was watching ellen show

[@colepryor8651]

It fits thors style, but not black widow

[@mikeparez]

No I hate that movie. Thor’s friend being killed should’ve been a big deal and it’s done in two seconds with no emotions.

[@chesterparish3794]

And comedies aren't inherently bad things.

[@rosecity_chris]

It's so crazy to me that the mcu can be so good at satisfying the masses and long time comic fans, but also do a complete disservice to some great characters. Feige knows damn well TM is a classic villain people love, I don't understand how they could fuck that up.

[@rolexjeanbaptiste]

@XTRA V1CI0US ultron was great not everything has to suck the comics meat

[@bri827]

Well when you find out that MCU is hiring writers with little experience it makes sense.

[@fugitive6549]

@XTRA V1CI0US He wasn't the best but he was still pretty alright and does what he was supposed to kinda well.

[@CERap22]

I actually LOVE Yelena talking about her hysterectomy. I think we saw enough of her dry sense of humor by that point that it is perfectly in-line with her character to talk about it that way to her surrogate dad whom she still has issues with

[@TheShop90sKids]

I agree, plus if you've been following the MCU movies for awhile, we all know that Natasha had that serious moment with Bruce Banner, when she was describing going through the surgery process in Age of Ultron. So why have that moment again if was done in a movie years prior.

[@christopherscotts5797]

"Taskmaster is in it... Kind of" Oh god. Oh dear god, no

[@darkoale3299]

It's really bad what they did with the character.

[@christopherscotts5797]

@@darkoale3299 hopefully they can have actual tony masters picking up the taskmaster mantle in the future Fix up their mistake as they're doing with the mandarin

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

@@darkoale3299 I really am disappointed in Kevin Feige

[@Butiguessilovememore]

Misspelled Taskmistress or maybe its TaskThey/Them? I cant keep up with all the ideology propaganda this post endgame mcu is pushing anymore.

[@achaudhari101]

@A 1 Or instead of being a reactionary, Taskmaster is a woman in this movie.

[@remixisthis]

Captain America: Winter Soldier was a great straight action thriller with incredible action scenes. I hope super hero movies take more from that than Thor: Ragnarok and Guardians of the Galaxy.

[@marvinleach3059]

YESSSSS! What he said ☝

[@coreoYEAH]

Thor 4 is going to be more Ragnarok than Ragnarok was.

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

What’s wrong with having a mix and balance of both types??

[@remixisthis]

@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 fair point. I was echoing the review where sometimes it feels forced and tacked on rather than a part of the plot

[@randomness5281]

Gotg was fucking amazing

[@andrewpapucci]

If they hadn't had this horrible version of task master this movie would be so much better to me.

[@dickriggles942]

I hope this isn't the only version of taskmaster we will see. It's a cool character. Isn't Taskmaster a guy?

[@ggx7905]

@@dickriggles942 yeah

[@browndemon386]

@@dickriggles942 He probably sold them the mimic chip!

[@kforcer]

@@dickriggles942 Yep. And a very unique character. He has photographic reflexes, meaning that if he watches someone perform any physical feat, he's able to copy it. What's really interesting about him is that he was initially a superhero, until he realized it was too much work and realized he could make much more money for much less risk using his copycat abilities to teach and training would-be supervillains. He's the ultimate combatant in many ways, but he doesn't want to rule the world, or avenge a loved one or fight crime...he just wants to make some money with his skills, the safest and easiest way he knows how.

[@uncharted7againblackking256]

@@dickriggles942 dummy

[@thehansolo0513]

my problem with this film is that it has no third act. it kind of just goes from the ground to the sky. the red room bit was amazing until i realized that it was the finale. there was no final act, no loss-retreat-regroup-final fight. its like if age of ultron went straight from ultrons creation to the sokovia battle without the car chase for vision and the bit at hawkeyes house. this film feels like a sidequest, a really big sidequest, but a sidequest nonetheless that doesnt resolve character relationships or give a proper conclusion or third act. i enjoyed it, but its probably the most forgettable mcu film to me.

[@tank100286]

Wow... thats so disappointing to keep hearing how they did Taskmaster. He's always been a top 10 villain to me.

[@king_lanishagi6954]

SHUT UP I CAN HEAR YOU IM THE BEST PART ABOUT THIS MOIVE ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE LYING

[@hecantguardme15]

yeah i've heard so many people say Taskmaster is disappointing , I had a feeling he would be from the trailers but I tried to keep hope alive lol

[@king_lanishagi6954]

@@hecantguardme15 YOU KNOW IM HERE RIGHT

[@tank100286]

@@king_lanishagi6954 I can see that you're upset, but I get it. You should've used this energy towards the Marvel executive's and writers that didn't let you talk. Everyone saying they did you dirty, bruh.

[@tank100286]

@@king_lanishagi6954 Another thing, why the hell do they got you looking like a Vr Trooper reject???

[@Mein-Darth]

"Taskmaster is in this movie...kind off". I have a bad feeling about this.

[@ZackFisherTV]

MCU feels totally different after endgame and I feel like they are still trying to find that footing.

[@thequietkidඞ]

Don't judge right away look what they pulled off with loki...one of the best series I saw

[@ZackFisherTV]

@@thequietkidඞ oh I totally agree, Loki has been pretty damn amazing so far. The shows they have released have been knocking it out and setting up some pretty interesting stuff. The build up towards endgame being 23 movies just has me curious as to how they might even do that again.

[@mtk1808]

Marvel is trying to create something more dangerous than Thanos, and of course there are bigger threats, but the MCU is out of ideas and DON'T KNOW, how to bring villains over from the comics without some bad changes

[@haydenfisher1387]

Idk man, well see after Shang Chi and Eternals, but I think with the giant events being saved for the movies and more smaller runs being explored in the D+ shows. It could either way, and with the eventual additions of mutants and the Fantastic Four I think the possibilities could be endless

[@jaywagner13]

@@ZackFisherTV I doubt they will be able to top the Infinity Saga. I think its gonna get to convoluted with all this time travel - multiverse stuff but who knows.

[@HenryZhoupokemon]

I was like “has COVID made me jaded or was this the worst mcu movie in awhile”

[@kotarojujo2737]

But captain marvel still more worst tho

[@HenryZhoupokemon]

@@kotarojujo2737 true I forgot about that movie tbh

[@DHynes5]

I'm probably gonna be murdered for saying this, but IMHO, Black Widow went to the 'Ant-Man and the Wasp' school of not justifying its existence other than having a post-credit scene that gives us hints of the future!

[@Mr_Cinematic]

Yoooo if you liked this you should check out my black widow RANT

[@nathanieldiaz5254]

Nothing will ever be worse than The Incredible Hulk and Captain Marvel