212 Ghost racing engine vs 212 Predator kzbin.info/www/bejne/op6Zq4esna97ic0
@kylevondohlen7842 жыл бұрын
You've been a huge help in my learning process. Thanks for the videos! Excited to do my first 212 build, stage 1 on a doodlebug. Love your "budget build" video, especially explaining how you remove the governor and oil sensor. Very helpful. Keep up the good work and be safe.
@Black662 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Thanks for watching the videos! Im glad they help.
@mklein51792 жыл бұрын
Nobody ever talks about these carbs!! Awesome vid!!!
@Black662 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Ya, true!
@mklein51792 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 nibbi also makes a 26mm flat slide with a power valve. I just have a mental block for carbs bigger than 24mm.
@rawbsworld66042 жыл бұрын
Hahaha 👍 I saw the title and was like, what strange slang is this …. What’s a nibbi? 😂😳😂
@Heno0572 жыл бұрын
I need a cool neighbor like you. I’m into mini bikes as well and my neighbors hate me lol
@Entertainment_Enterprise2 жыл бұрын
Desert People arnt bothered by Any of this. We Encourage it!
@AwesomePieMann2 жыл бұрын
Unless you just moved from California lol
@Florida_man420 Жыл бұрын
My neighbors just called the cops on me yesterday because I was working on and testing my friends new mini bike
@dunamon2 жыл бұрын
Hi Black. Your videos got me from 19 to 38 MPH! Got a carb question. Carb jet couldnt be removed on my baja. Put carb bowl back on. That little bowl gasket kind of pinched. Cant line it up. Now its quitting & leaking a bit if gas. Can something that small shut me down?
@scmafia7515 Жыл бұрын
If you haven't found a solution, you probably got gas on the o ring, put it in freezer for about 30 min to an hr and refit
@davidpearson804310 ай бұрын
Just put this carb in my coleman BTX200 this weekend. Works great at idle and low-mid speeds, but noticeably bogs down on the high end. Thinking it's the jetting? Thanks, love your videos!
@gregkirby Жыл бұрын
I like how you did the pan away on the intro.
@zacharypondo9902 жыл бұрын
You're the reason I love mini bikes!
@Black662 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!
@milanp5697 Жыл бұрын
Great video! What is your get setings on nibbi and what is your elevation? Milan
@whiskeythrottle86806 ай бұрын
Just got a bt200x and r200x and im in love with the minis now just need to learn what carbs are best on stock motors with no governor
@Black666 ай бұрын
A VM22 is a good inexpensive carb
@Mroswaldo1610 ай бұрын
My mini bike did 61mph with a mod 2 cam, billet rod/flywheel, 22lbs springs. 18t clutch & 75 rear sprocket.. Just looking for a good slide carb for my mini bike so the throttle is better too, i bought the omb throttle linkage for governor & sucks it didnt have a return spring it was 22 buck plus shipping. Now plug a small spring. I should of bought a slide carb, those have a spring in them.
@Black6610 ай бұрын
One of my favorite slide carbs is on this bike...kzbin.info/www/bejne/roebmmhvlqyIl9E
@phoenixconstrictors33072 жыл бұрын
To my knowledge, may be wrong, but I believe the Ghost's coil pack is what governs them at that 6800 rpm. May check into that, tho, I'm not 100%.
@Black662 жыл бұрын
Yes, check out this Ghost video. I take off the rev limiting coil and install a billet flywheel. kzbin.info/www/bejne/op6Zq4esna97ic0
@phoenixconstrictors33072 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 gotcha, I'll check it out. 👍
@thefishingchannel31922 жыл бұрын
I threw a nibbi carb on a 1983 Honda xl250r because I thought the old carb was plugged up. It didn't start before and it doesn't start now. Do you think the carburetor is the problem or could it be something else? Everything seems in check but still won't start. (Exhaust gets hot but doesn't kick over)
@Wulf8052 жыл бұрын
Check the ignition coil if it has the right gap or new spark plug
@thefishingchannel31922 жыл бұрын
@@Wulf805 I bought a new spark plug and set the gap, and was the same. But I would think if it has spark, fuel, and compression it should kick over.....but nope haha. Also thank you for the input
@litnlarry2 жыл бұрын
Put some gas down spark plug hole. If it runs for bit you have a carburetor/intake problem.
@thefishingchannel31922 жыл бұрын
@@litnlarry okay I'll try that. I think I tried before but just backfired.... I adjusted the valves afterwards due to them being too tight. but I'll try again. Thanks
@thefishingchannel31922 жыл бұрын
Just a bit of history on the bike. It was parked for quite a while because the kid said it was seized.... I got it to free up and move smoothly. It had oil in it and valves seem fine. It has compression and spark. The exhaust gets hot to the touch when trying to kick it over and pops out of the tail pipe sometimes.
@ephenj Жыл бұрын
Hey hows it going, I had emailed you a while back about jetting a pe24mm carb well the idle screw houseing broke on that one so I'm going with the nibbi since it looks like a copy. I know you said you were at elevation. I started with a 40 pilot and a 140 main on the real keihin pe 24mm carb and the plug came out looking like it barely ran slight tan ring. "new build". Only had a bog off idle and could barely adjust the air screw out so I was guessing more pilot. Anyway I know elevation plays a huge role in it but it's at least a starting point when I get the nibbi in because I don't think the fix I came up with will last the vibrations ripping around the dirt oval.
@BizWiz2 жыл бұрын
I'm at 5300 feet elevation , any recommendations on both jet sizes for NIBBi. Thanks
@jwalkerftw5 ай бұрын
Do you prefer the 24MM nibbi over the 22MM nibbi?
@connorneufeld4132 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend upgrading a Mikuni to a Nibbi on a non-racing bike
@Black662 жыл бұрын
I have gotten more performance from the NIBBI 24MM over the VM22 . They are both good carbs. Check out the Predatot 224 playlist. kzbin.info/www/bejne/amaopmVve52Jack
@VDM32 Жыл бұрын
Would you choose this PE series over the PWK series carbs? I can’t decide which is best for my yx 140cc
@stevenflowers65912 ай бұрын
Will a standard 212 coil work on the ghost
@brianarnone9332 жыл бұрын
I was hoping you made a video with an upgraded carburetor and here it is :) Yes valve springs would be in order I just hope the rod is decent and it's balanced. Top speed could have dropped due to rich jetting on top end. Shutting it off right at top speed and reading the plug would tell you a lot. With all those 4 stroke engines you should get a wideband like the AEM to know your a/f ratio so you can get the most out of the engine. Can you get stronger clutch springs to get a higher RPM off the line? That would help the 0-30 a lot since it sounds like the engine has plenty of power once the rpm's get up a bit..
@Black662 жыл бұрын
I have a Noram Cheetah clutch I use for High RPM starts. Check out the Doodlebug playlist. I use the Noram on that bike and others on the channel. Thanks for watching! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGScq4Ote7aCiJo
@dougdroen751911 ай бұрын
On your predator 212 non hemi do u up grade your flywheel b4 going with a nibbi carb
@phoenixmojado5274 ай бұрын
Just slapped my nibbi on my bike and I’m never going back to a cheap vm 22 lol 🙏🏼🔥😊
@scoopsf Жыл бұрын
Why did u decide to run 24mm instead of 26mm ?
@superjeep45242 жыл бұрын
Hi nice video what app do you use to test your speed?
@Black662 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I use digiHUD along with the camera GPS for top speed and a Dragy performance meter for 0 to 30
@johnsmith-zd5he6 ай бұрын
Do you think you would have gained more with a slightly bigger jet in that nibbi? Just wondering because im about to snag a 24 for my tilly 212 with banzai 265, ported head, pipe, and billet parts for a street 2.6:1 geared drag bike!?!?
@Black666 ай бұрын
I live at 3700 foot elevation. I usually get away with slightly smaller jetting up here. Check the playlist for many different carb set ups and Jetting.
@johnsmith-zd5he6 ай бұрын
@@Black66 So what carb if you could only buy one to upgrade a vm22 would you get for a warmed over tilly 212 with 265 cam for basically same style of bike riding you do? Ive watched all your vids a hundred times but am still undecided lol!! Thanks man!
@Wreckedem22 Жыл бұрын
Hey. I have a similar ghost engine- can you tell me what jetting you used for the test? Thank you.
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
I used a 120-main and a 35-pilot. My jetting might be different than yours, I live at a t 3700-foot elevation.
@Wreckedem22 Жыл бұрын
@@Black66 thank you
@albertpeterson71342 жыл бұрын
Black66. Iam building a 212 Ghost with Billet Parts. Iam Going to try it out on a. Coleman CC100X. Going to use ase a torque converter. With a juggernaut pulley
@mikesomewhere7214 Жыл бұрын
How to you get tristar front wheels to stop shaking if they do? Mine is soo bad it is almost unrideable.
@jimross80642 жыл бұрын
What app do you use for your tests? Can't seem to find one that will do the 0-30. Thx
@Black662 жыл бұрын
I do zero to thirty with a Dragy performance meter
@houseoffire722 жыл бұрын
Good info as always
@GEEBUZ892 жыл бұрын
man i love watching your videos....im so bummed rite now ...i had my only mini bike stolen 2 days ago and now all j can do is watch minibkkes now 😞
@Black662 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that. What town was that in?
@mikesbarn18582 жыл бұрын
My condolences. Check your local stores. Near the end of the season they like to sell off left over stock.
@rawbsworld66042 жыл бұрын
@@mikesbarn1858 there’s a mini bike season? 🤔 🤪 … 👍
@GEEBUZ892 жыл бұрын
@@rawbsworld6604 no why i had my mini bike since 2002 =(
@rawbsworld66042 жыл бұрын
@@GEEBUZ89 It was a tongue & cheek statement 🤷♂️ obviously in snow regions there’s a season. I wasn’t mocking your loss 👌 I feel for ya, I despise thieves hope you find it take care mate ,,, ✌️🤙
@PL4SMA2 жыл бұрын
Would this Nibbi 24mm work on a normal predator 212?
@smokerslounge88802 жыл бұрын
yes
@jluism10 Жыл бұрын
How do you control the choke on a Nibbi carb?
@samuelwatkins51452 жыл бұрын
You have got to change that gear ratio or tire size if your looking for top speed. I like you vids but man I feel bad for that ghost lol. My stock ghost goes 45+ on the MM212 kit, and it's no where near the rev limiter. I need to get a jug to get there. The ghost deserves some better love then wringing its neck on that small tire bike.
@Black662 жыл бұрын
I gear these bikes to find out the limitations of these engines. Not for ultimate top speed. Thanks for watching.
@datsun7023 Жыл бұрын
@@Black66good way to see the weak points
@pd1012 жыл бұрын
What kinda of gas are you using?
@yobroicouldhitthatrealquic84052 жыл бұрын
Hey whats that black box that you have on behind the carb, is it the vacuum seal black piece that comes with the regular 19m carb?
@Black662 жыл бұрын
It's a plastic carb insulator. Helps to keep fuel temps down.
@veedubgenetics681110 ай бұрын
What jets do you like to use in your nibbi
@kimbapal22 жыл бұрын
Would a predator 224 Benefit with this carburetor I bought a mikuni style carburetor and it just overflows with gas and has gas leak out of the intake (if you have a fix for that please help :) ) otherwise I’m looking to get another carb.
@sedrickisrael5902 жыл бұрын
Check jet size I run a 120 in my 224
@Black662 жыл бұрын
Check out the Predator 224 playlist. There is a video with the NIBBI carb on the 224 kzbin.info/www/bejne/amaopmVve52Jack
@kimbapal22 жыл бұрын
Thank you both!
@samsgarage17162 жыл бұрын
I need to buy a Nibbi carburetor.Great video
@Black662 жыл бұрын
Thank! Ya, they are good carbs for the money.
@samsgarage17162 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 I just got my 24mm Nibbi carburetor and I have the 125 jet. I’m just watching a bunch of your videos first before I start working on my mini dirt bike.
@Black662 жыл бұрын
@@samsgarage1716 Thanks! Hope the videos help . The Nibbi 24MM is a good carb
@SoLoCruizer Жыл бұрын
what about this nibbi compared to the vm22 i mean i already have a pvL flywheel and header pipe n stuff
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
The NIBBI is a good carb for the price IMO
@tatuerik28912 жыл бұрын
Wish I could chat with ya man. I got a ghost as well and would love to pick your brain a bit for some advice and help possibly. Love your vids and I’ve learned a lot from you as well
@Black662 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching the videos! Shoot me an email, It's in the about section, or PM me on Instagram
@slappdaddy6515 Жыл бұрын
Guys I'm rebuilding a ghost .and I was doing 60 before mods..now I need a new carburetor
@nfoley19843 ай бұрын
Can you post what intake you are running? The link has expired. I'm having trouble finding the right one. The ones I have won't take the factory nuts as it hits the intake, and I can not tighten them. I've tried 2 different ones already.
@sherezadaheredia93322 ай бұрын
Have you found one that works I am looking for one
@NVScrapper2 жыл бұрын
The Ghost would probably run a little better with valve springs. Another great video!
@aaron75202 жыл бұрын
Rev limiter 🤡
@mikesbarn18582 жыл бұрын
Valve float and coil limiting sound very similar. That was the coil. If I change the coil then absolutely increase the springs.
@scoopsf Жыл бұрын
Will this work on a stock predator with Governor and oil sensor removed?
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@scoopsf Жыл бұрын
@@Black66 thank you sir
@JohnOgdenJr2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a vid comparing a flat slide to the nibbi?
@Black662 жыл бұрын
Yes, here is the video, thanks for watching kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpiYfa2wj7epg9E
@chadwest91152 жыл бұрын
I have a 212 predator hemi with 26lb valve springs,ARC +.010"piston rod,billet flywheel,and a nibbi PE28mm carburetor. And when you give full throttle my bike bogs out??
@bluecamaro99 Жыл бұрын
Had same problem tried a lot of configurations never got great just ok I think I would opt to 26mm
@HoeLeeFuQQ5 ай бұрын
Can you link the air filters and parts
@BillWilliamson4202 жыл бұрын
hey what manifold do you use for the nibbi
@Black662 жыл бұрын
I linked the manifold in the description. Its a VM22 manifold. Thanks for watching!
@cesarborunda5224 Жыл бұрын
Where did u get that gas tank boss
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Its a vintage tank I picked up off of ebay. I made the mounts. Check out the playlist for the build videos.
@trunty842 жыл бұрын
What jet did you find best?
@Black662 жыл бұрын
I'm at 3700 foot elevation, so my jet sizes seem to be a little smaller . I use around a 120 main
@noahwynn33612 жыл бұрын
What I take manifold are you using
@Black662 жыл бұрын
I linked the intake manifold in the description. Thanks for watching the videos!
@noahwynn33612 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 awesome thanks for the great content
@turbobits382 жыл бұрын
I recently got a Mikuni vm22 on my 212 predator engine and I do not know how to tune it. I watched a bunch of videos on how to tune the two bolts and when I screw it both ways it idols the same. Like when I start up my bike it just starts driving when i dont give it gass. Please help.
@tannerburks84992 жыл бұрын
Ive got the exact opposite problem mine idols good but spits and sputters at ober 4k and wont start back have tuned it and tuned it when I first put it on I got 8200 rpm now cant get over a couple grand without it acting up
@WyFoster2 жыл бұрын
The philips head screw on the front side of the carb adjusts idle speed. (Facing towards the front wheel) Try screwing that out when the bike is running. It'll lower the idle speed. Screwing it in clockwise will raise it.
@turbobits382 жыл бұрын
@@WyFoster I rotated it both ways and it idols the same
@Wulf8052 жыл бұрын
Mine did the same until I got bigger size jets. The stock ones are too small
@gregswafford98392 жыл бұрын
Don't go by other people telling you your jets are to small from factory, jetting is different, alot of variabls play into it. main thing is to make sure you don't have an air leak before you even start to tune the carb.
@johnk63462 жыл бұрын
Lots of engineering
@Every1sNo12 ай бұрын
What main jet did you use in this
@Black66Ай бұрын
My main jet most likely will be different than yours I live at 3700-foot elevation. Check out the Ghost playlist for many part combos with the Ghost kzbin.info/www/bejne/hX-tk3mXesqWh68
@559Minibike_AV2 жыл бұрын
Can u leave a link to the carb in description
@Black662 жыл бұрын
Yes, the link is in the description.
@thehypeside15082 жыл бұрын
Did you adjust the needle at all??
@Black662 жыл бұрын
Yes, the carb was tuned for the Ghost and. 3700-foot elevation. Check out the playlist for more combos with the Ghost. Thanks for watching. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3jVmq2ZmsaSi8k
@thehypeside15082 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 thank you for the speedy reply!
@kevintanner9821 Жыл бұрын
Your house is like in the middle of nowhere. Good for off road.
@scmafia7515 Жыл бұрын
You should have removed the insulator and it would have been a perfect match, D to D shape instead of D to O shape
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Check out the Ghost playlist! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKbGZWWEZ6x1sLM
@scmafia7515 Жыл бұрын
@@Black66 one thing for sure is you make tuning those thing look easy, I have a genuine 28mm mikuni that I can't get tuned.
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
@@scmafia7515 Have you checked out this video? kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGbFimBnnK6Kjc0
@scmafia7515 Жыл бұрын
@@Black66 I just installed my 24mm nibbi, went to go start it up and gas came back through the carb, not the intake side..ever had that happen?
@rawbsworld66042 жыл бұрын
🤔 is the difference in weight, did you weigh the carbs? 🤷♂️ Is the nibbi lighter? 🤦😳😂 😝….. ✌️🤙
@Cereal_Killr Жыл бұрын
I wanna try something different. a 24mm Nibbi will be plenty for a 212 Tilly? Nibbi claims a 28mm will be for that cc range...but your showing and proving otherwise. What's your findings bud?
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
I like the 24MM for a 212. A 26MM and a 28MM will work But they don't seem as snappy and as easy to start as the 24MM on a 212.
@Cereal_Killr Жыл бұрын
@@Black66 thank you for that info. I believe I'm gonna try out a nibbi 24mm
@stevenflowers65912 ай бұрын
Will a standard 212coil work on the ghost 212
@Black662 ай бұрын
With a flywheel swap. Check out the Ghost playlist for the flywheel swap. kzbin.info/www/bejne/op6Zq4esna97ic0