Card Counters React to "The Card Counter"

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Blackjack Apprenticeship

Blackjack Apprenticeship

Күн бұрын

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@timothyalvis6654
@timothyalvis6654 3 жыл бұрын
Shockingly, a movie called The Card Counter has very little to do with actually counting cards. It's obvious they didn't put much thought into the system because the system isn't the main focus of the movie. The movie is about Oscar Isaac's character reconciling with his past. They use the setting of casinos to show his mundane lifestyle, a dull lifestyle, in contrast to his casinos are usually depicted, because he desperately wants to run from his mistakes. Even if the card counting and poker playing mistakes in this movie are egregiously wrong, I still overall liked the movie for what it was. Maybe just don't call a movie The Card Counter if the main focus isn't actually counting cards lol
@amazingabby25
@amazingabby25 3 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%
@leonardolippi6541
@leonardolippi6541 2 жыл бұрын
perfectly said
@timalvis5723
@timalvis5723 2 жыл бұрын
Nice name you got there
@chrisbaker2669
@chrisbaker2669 2 жыл бұрын
They could be accurate with card counting scenes it doesn't take that much effort. All they had to do was hop online and buy the book playing blackjack as a business read it and put it into action in the card counting scenes. Also playing a 6 to 5 table is stupid you have to pick a 3 to 2 table. They should have made a big deal about where they play.
@betcjay243
@betcjay243 2 жыл бұрын
You sound like you made the movie and ur mad about it lol
@mentar1048
@mentar1048 3 жыл бұрын
Oh. My. Gawd. But it fits. This is exactly what the Casinos want the ploppies to think. Learn counting, don't get too greedy, and then play on our 6:5 tables with 1.5% house edge off the top :)
@truthseeker8123
@truthseeker8123 3 жыл бұрын
Make me laugh. The houses don’t care unless you are running at least 1:12 unit spread. Been on LV BLVD since 98. I’ve met only 1 guy good enough to be a threat. I scared him off after he was stiff. If he was George, I wouldn’t have said a word. My 2 cents
@DrRyanWexler
@DrRyanWexler 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Colin, thanks for continuing to produce such high quality content. I've really gone in deep with learning about counting and black jack strategy, and it's been great to have your videos and articles to reference. As a 24 year old med student it's not affordable for me right now to become a member or afford the softwares you recommend, but using your free content and the BJA app I've been doing pretty well so far and am really learning the enjoy the process of training and being challenged. Maybe one of these days I'll take the financial plunge into membership, software access, and training with you, but for now I am appreciative of the content you create for non-members. Thanks again!
@DrRyanWexler
@DrRyanWexler 3 жыл бұрын
Addition: today a season counter at the casino (I go to Ilani in southern Washington) told me, after we had played a couple of shoes together, that he thought I was a "good player" and it felt very validating of the progress I have made using your system and advice!
@adammtroutman
@adammtroutman 3 жыл бұрын
Ryan, I’m very similar to you. 23 years old, chemical engineer, and I have recently become fascinated with gaining an advantage in blackjack by using these techniques. I need to improve my basic strategy, I’m running in the mid 90% right now, but one day soon I hope to be 100% from memory like these guys so I can focus on the counting and how the count influences my decisions. It would be a total dream to go train with these guys, but I’m not even close to that level. Practice, practice, practice
@stevenbridges
@stevenbridges 3 жыл бұрын
But what if I’ve got a really good feeling about doubling my 9 against a 10? 😂 In all seriousness, I was looking forward to watching that movie…. Not anymore 😂
@randyrapidfire72
@randyrapidfire72 3 жыл бұрын
I would bet, the studios asked for something (location, consultant, etc.) and the casinos got an agreement for them to not film how it's really done.
@stonewallstorys8906
@stonewallstorys8906 3 жыл бұрын
He had to see the hole card. Play those feelings. Let me know how that works out for your EV. I enjoy your card counting series and when u have been a guest on podcasts that I listen too.
@roscoebuns5264
@roscoebuns5264 3 жыл бұрын
I just watched it and it sucked!
@theslotwhisperer5513
@theslotwhisperer5513 3 жыл бұрын
9 against a dealer up 10 is a mandatory double...if you're playing free bet
@stevenbridges
@stevenbridges 3 жыл бұрын
@@stonewallstorys8906 Thank you! 😃
@patriot1303
@patriot1303 2 жыл бұрын
You guys miss it...you see, him doubling the 9 was part of his strategy to throw the casino off his trail - he knew that was a bs mistake and that the casino would see it and no longer suspect him of counting...well that’s the story
@russlehman2070
@russlehman2070 2 жыл бұрын
Well, one way to convince a casino that you're not an advantage player is to make so many stupid "cover" plays that you are actually not an advantage player. But you could just give the casino your money and save yourself the time and aggravation.
@chrisyee9507
@chrisyee9507 3 жыл бұрын
the comparison to air bud was priceless!
@brwi1
@brwi1 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine going to see The Card Counter expecting a cool gambling movie and discovering it’s about the horrors of Abu Ghraib
@lennyanders1639
@lennyanders1639 3 жыл бұрын
The movie "21" was a good depiction of card counting however the players were constantly getting counts of +15 and +16.
@T-Vegas
@T-Vegas 3 жыл бұрын
Actually the movie 21 really isn't that accurate,but it's a little better than what this movie was showing. He has a video about that movie on here as well. Mainly that the main characters win every time they go out and always win big. Which is very inaccurate
@danielyuan9862
@danielyuan9862 2 жыл бұрын
That's because the card counters "fold the shoe" whenever the players get counts of -15 and -16.
@ianandersen265
@ianandersen265 2 жыл бұрын
If those were true counts, that would be hugely problematic. Running count, that would have been much more commonplace, especially in 8 deck games.
@grossing89
@grossing89 2 жыл бұрын
The worst part is that halfway through the movie, he abruptly changes from Blackjack to Texas Hold 'Em Poker, which has nothing to do with counting cards, and is an entirely different skill set.
@livebassngames
@livebassngames 2 жыл бұрын
poker is more about being able to divide 47/9 for flushes and 47/8 for straights LOL and then the pot odds
@Sevrr
@Sevrr 2 жыл бұрын
@@livebassngames just say you don’t know how to play poker man you don’t have to try and pretend like you know something
@YoureASquidYoureAKid
@YoureASquidYoureAKid 3 жыл бұрын
I went to the Casino 3 weeks ago and followed basic strategy. Walked in with $200 and walked out with $1400 in 2 hours. Thanks for the videos!
@moiabanda
@moiabanda 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@NeverTalkToCops1
@NeverTalkToCops1 3 жыл бұрын
So, you added your $1400 to your pandemic check, and found some car dealer to take that as a down payment? Hee hee hee.
@Simon-nv5zj
@Simon-nv5zj 2 жыл бұрын
Id suggest its because you ran very well, not because of just basic strategy.
@nickhansbauer
@nickhansbauer 2 жыл бұрын
Watch out! Basic strategy alone, in the long run, is still a losing game. You may lose slower, but you will inevitably do so as the house still has the edge. To gain an advantage, you need to additionally use methods like e.g. counting.
@Zak-jt6nk
@Zak-jt6nk 2 жыл бұрын
So did u ever give it all back or
@Jeremy_the_bot
@Jeremy_the_bot 3 жыл бұрын
Loudon Often should make more appearances on the channel. Seeing such a common average dude talk about card counting actually makes it seem possible. Colin is a little too charismatic and good looking (harsh criticism I know).
@zippyman818
@zippyman818 3 жыл бұрын
William's explanation of card counting was taken directly, almost verbatim, from the WIRED KZbin video "Blackjack Expert Explains How Card Counting Works".
@brwi1
@brwi1 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the extent of Paul Schrader’s research
@karsonkammerzell6955
@karsonkammerzell6955 Жыл бұрын
One of my coworkers use to be a pit boss at a casino nearby and he told me a story of how this regular would always come in and play at an empty table late at night. This guy was incredibly good at Blackjack and would always start with a bankroll of $3,000. Every single time he won he would tip the dealer the winnings; breaking even. He would end up leaving having broke even but tipping thousands to these dealers. Eventually the casino kicked him because the only people making money from this guy's play were the dealers. Dude was like the Robin Hood of Blackjack and by the time they kicked him had given these dealers tons of money, lol. My coworker never said if the reason he left was that, but he did say that he was pissed that the casino screwed his dealers out of the tips.
@jl2696
@jl2696 Жыл бұрын
That sounds like an exaggeration at best and a flat out lie at worst. If this had been a one-off occurrence, I might buy it. But I've never met anyone, professional or not - no matter how rich or poor, who sat down at a table game and regularly tipped all their winnings. Sorry but I cant believe the bullshit your coworker is feeding you.
@Kanders190
@Kanders190 Жыл бұрын
And then everybody in the room starting clapping?
@brian9670
@brian9670 10 ай бұрын
Lmao, and there's a guy in my neighborhood that dresses like a bat and saves people from crimes.
@chuckzamzow
@chuckzamzow 3 жыл бұрын
What is the EV of covering everything in a hotel room with sheets?
@livebassngames
@livebassngames 2 жыл бұрын
3 millions $
@paulklemer
@paulklemer 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe they teach a different card counting system in prison 🤓
@roscoebuns5264
@roscoebuns5264 3 жыл бұрын
Colin I didn't want to watch your full video until after I watched the movie what a mistake that was I paid 20 dollars to buy it. Your review of the movie was so much better than the movie itself.
@1324Potato
@1324Potato 2 жыл бұрын
What was your problem with it?
@mr.snuggle6883
@mr.snuggle6883 3 жыл бұрын
Laudon said he's winning 55% of the time. I think he's winning ~49.5% of the time (# of bets) over a sufficiently large enough sample size. It's just that he has approximate insight into the un-even distribution of when those wins are occurring and is adjusting his bets to maximize the impact of those fewer wins.
@bensonlim1914
@bensonlim1914 3 жыл бұрын
Unless he was talking about % of winning sessions vs losing sessions, not % of winning hands
@Danicker
@Danicker 3 жыл бұрын
Yea I think he was talking about sessions in which case you'd expect a decently high probability. And the longer your session is, the more likely you end up with a profit (assuming you are playing correctly of course)
@Danicker
@Danicker 3 жыл бұрын
@Blia Yang If you're talking about session wins it's very possible. If you're a winning player you expect to make a profit on most of your sessions. Because you're a winning player, each hand you play has a positive EV. No of course you can get unlucky, but the more hands you play in a session the more likely you are to come out on top at the end.
@mr.snuggle6883
@mr.snuggle6883 3 жыл бұрын
@@Danicker I was talking about the actual number of times he is winning a hand. He's not exceeding 50%, even if he's generating positive EV.
@Danicker
@Danicker 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.snuggle6883 Okay sure, but I think in the video they were talking about sessions. Maybe not, it's hard to tell. But given that he said 55% I would guess he's talking about sessions
@A_Hard_Carry_OSRS
@A_Hard_Carry_OSRS 2 жыл бұрын
At 2:45 the play might be justified with hole card knowledge right?
@Phlegethon
@Phlegethon 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought casinos probably fund these card counting movies to throw people off
@hudsonkarasek2049
@hudsonkarasek2049 3 жыл бұрын
I have been learning a little bit and have a quick question. In a situation where our running count is 15, we have 1 deck used, would this mean that the true count is 3? If so, would we change our betting unit this early in the game? Wouldn't this be risky since the shoe is still very new? When using true count, when do we start to change our betting unit when it comes to how many decks remain? Do we wait until two decks of the shoe have been used? When's the right time?
@leon7_714
@leon7_714 3 жыл бұрын
if you are playing a 6-shoe-game, yeah, the true count would be 3. and of course, when the TC is 3, you have the advantage so you start changing your bets. doesnt matter, how many cards have been dealt
@hudsonkarasek2049
@hudsonkarasek2049 3 жыл бұрын
(6 deck shoe)
@levipowell6873
@levipowell6873 2 жыл бұрын
When you really think about it, just about anyone who plays blackjack and understands basic probability is probably in some way subconsciously counting cards.
@joeshmoe781
@joeshmoe781 2 жыл бұрын
Damn right!
@chrisbaker2669
@chrisbaker2669 2 жыл бұрын
Not true I dealt blackjack and watched people play. 99% of people misplay 10% of hands.
@JA-ru3il
@JA-ru3il 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, you have to in some way it's just a part of the game.
@deeveeoh
@deeveeoh 2 жыл бұрын
If you know how movie-making works, you'll find the strategy errors are likely the fault of the editors picking shots that don't match a good play/move...they likely shot different hands over many days and the editors just took what looked best visually, and showed a win, without care of what the actual cards/strategy would be. That said, still the directors fault for skimping on details.
@CDN296
@CDN296 10 ай бұрын
I'm curious what you guys thought of rounders
@stewiegriffin6503
@stewiegriffin6503 3 жыл бұрын
I like how they laugh at all movie mistakes
@thetruthhurts9112
@thetruthhurts9112 3 жыл бұрын
I counted cards like that dude to. There was 52 in the deck. Weird I always get that number, when do I raise my bet??
@NeverTalkToCops1
@NeverTalkToCops1 3 жыл бұрын
When the Queen of Cups card comes up.
@MondoLeStraka
@MondoLeStraka 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Colin. Is this "movie" on Hulu? I couldn't find it. I just want to see how it was.
@Phlegethon
@Phlegethon 3 жыл бұрын
Need more David & Dusty stories
@djcandyman661
@djcandyman661 5 ай бұрын
The casino he walks out of at 2:52 looks like a fake casino you would see in Grand Theft Auto... Lol.
@delusional6317
@delusional6317 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, just tried to become a member of BJA and I think that the website link is somehow broken. I have tried on 3 separate computers and each time I press the "purchase now" button, it loads and buffers for about a minute and then says "host error". Please help.
@sfloridarathunters6364
@sfloridarathunters6364 3 жыл бұрын
I try to sign-up for your newsletter on your website. I keep seeing the error, “enter a better email” . I am a tech guy- what exactly makes an email better?
@Alex98284
@Alex98284 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be very interested to know where the money came from to produce this movie, looks like a casino anti-card counting op lmao
@amazingabby25
@amazingabby25 3 жыл бұрын
The movie has so little to do with gambling, tbh. It’s mostly about dealing with your past
@RobinHagg
@RobinHagg 3 жыл бұрын
Casino is not available in my country (yet) but might be in a few years. Is it worth it if my country only ends up with 2-3 casino in the whole country?
@nolanvolens5727
@nolanvolens5727 3 жыл бұрын
Hi guy. I'm curious as to what country is yours. I'm guessing somewhere in Scandinavia. I'd appreciate it if you would clarify. Presuming that I am correct in that, let me be so bold as to answer your question. I have worked in casinos for nearly 25 years, starting as a dealer, and am now a floor manager (a quite high up position, in case you did not know that) at a large casino in Canada, so I speak from experience. If your country opens just a few casinos it will be impossible to become a successful card counter because of the simple fact that you will become known. If you show an advantage, you'll be out. It is almost certain that if your country decides to allow casinos there will be a tendering process whereby one particular (long established) company will win the contract. So if you are backed off at casino A you'll also (automatically) be backed off at B and C. Even in the highly unlikely event that the three casinos licenses are granted to three different companies you will still fail not only because you would be recognized at each one, but also because casinos (even competitors) share all kinds of information (including stuff like this) with each other. To summate, card counting for viable profit is impossible in all of Europe. There are not enough casinos to stay under the radar, and BJ is not even that popular a game there. Roulette is the big one. Even in America, with hundreds of casinos, and where there are many more BJ tables it is a very difficult, though not impossible hurdle to overcome. If you hear that casinos are coming to your country you should learn, or if you know the basics already, improve on your poker skills. Providing that the rake/session fee isn't ridiculously high, one can make nice tidy profits at poker, especially when you'll be playing against many people who are new to the game, and have not studied, like you. Beware though, of experienced sharks who know this too, and are superior to you. Wow, started off just wondering where you're located, and turned into a novel. Sorry about that, but hope what I said was helpful.
@RobinHagg
@RobinHagg 3 жыл бұрын
@@nolanvolens5727 thanks. My current country is Thailand. We have casinos in Cambodia but I have heard that they have quite a few bad experiences there and don't want to loose any fingers. There have been talks of casinos in Thailand (illegal now) after a proposed legal change. Yeah you are right. I would be out of casinos pretty fast. I have a background in poker so i could spend some time to get back to that. Thanks a lot
@nolanvolens5727
@nolanvolens5727 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobinHagg You're welcome, and thanks for replying to me.
@SnoopCatts
@SnoopCatts 2 жыл бұрын
Colin 's last comment is what had me cracking up 😂 🤣 don't watch the card counter to learn about card counting 😂 🤣
@vojtechsejkora1554
@vojtechsejkora1554 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I want to ask. Does it make sence for me to learn how to count, so I can see, if I am cabable of that? I am quite good at math, I work as programmer and I think, that I can visit casinos for some time. I undestand variance, and so on, but i do not know, if I can handle conflix well, I think so. I do not think, that I can make lots of money with that, but it looks like interesting skill (I already can count a little bit, but I have to learn basic strategy first and than practise it).
@brian9670
@brian9670 10 ай бұрын
It's a fun skill to learn and a good brain workout. Like you said though, don't think it's going to make you rich.
@james_wilton223
@james_wilton223 2 жыл бұрын
anyone know how i could get in touch with BJA or anyone who counts cards or just plays blackjack in general since i have a few questions about it before i put time into learning basic strategy and all of the things i would need to know
@Blackjackapprenticeship
@Blackjackapprenticeship 2 жыл бұрын
Hey James feel free to email info@blackjackapprenticeship.com
@kenneth28888
@kenneth28888 Жыл бұрын
can you go over how building a team works in playing blackjack and being an “investment firm”
@ReaverLordTonus
@ReaverLordTonus 5 ай бұрын
I used to try card counting a decade ago. Simple basic strategy on double deck tables mostly. I could never do it with more decks than that, and infinite shuffling machines basically killed it for me. Admittedly, I thought the same way, betting the minimum when the count was low and only betting a little more when it was up. Never bet big, probably the most I ever bet was $50. I figured anyone who ever got trouble for it were the ones betting and winning noticeable amounts. It didn't make me rich, and I didn't always win, but it helped me play for hours almost every time, and I walked away with a few hundred bucks here and there.
@rjdodgerz2776
@rjdodgerz2776 2 жыл бұрын
When you get backed off does that mean you can't come back and play or do you get backed off for the day?
@Zak-jt6nk
@Zak-jt6nk 2 жыл бұрын
When you get backed off they threaten to trespass you on return or they will say you just can't play blackjack style games there. Another thing they can do is flat bet you so you aren't allowed to change your bet for the entire shoe.
@Corysquestions
@Corysquestions 3 ай бұрын
I’ve been binging this content and Im going to buy 20 packs so I can practice at 8,6,4 and 2 decks for the next 3 months
@engineeringpoker6801
@engineeringpoker6801 3 жыл бұрын
ive seen places that pay 6to5 but are single deck, wouldnt that make it worth it?
@88KeysIdaho
@88KeysIdaho 3 жыл бұрын
NO. 6:5 is never a good deal, regardless of # of decks. I play 3:2 Single Deck all the time.
@IntelligentIndividual
@IntelligentIndividual 3 жыл бұрын
yo im wondering are you and more of your former team mates in the griffin book ?
@dallasblankenfeld6908
@dallasblankenfeld6908 3 жыл бұрын
this was so fucking funny thanks collin and louden for saving 2 hours of my life i was never going to get back
@neatstuff1988
@neatstuff1988 2 жыл бұрын
When the card counter is describing how the count is kept track of he forgets to count the Ace.
@jeffaleshire2994
@jeffaleshire2994 3 жыл бұрын
When identifying the value of the negative cards, he doesn’t mention that an ace is a negative one.
@guibox3
@guibox3 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too. I'm surprised they didn't comment on that!
@danielyuan9862
@danielyuan9862 2 жыл бұрын
@@guibox3 I guess they just assumed they'd get that...
@Comical_LLama
@Comical_LLama 3 жыл бұрын
doubling on 9 vs dealer's 10 is nothing . Austin powers stood on a 5 against a dealer's 10
@michaelbrown1627
@michaelbrown1627 8 ай бұрын
Should’ve been called ‘The Drunk Ploppy’
@berryreading4809
@berryreading4809 2 жыл бұрын
That Airbud reference! 🤣
@zakkwyldesdmf13
@zakkwyldesdmf13 Жыл бұрын
Well, a little bit off topic but I would LOVE you to make a life-simulation PC game based around card counting. There are many areas around the world where you simply don't have the opportunity to get into "real" card counting.
@snookermentalist
@snookermentalist 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Colin went on the website to message u this question but couldn’t find a link . I have been a professional poker player in the uk for the last 15 years, In that time I have had some good edges but now I am close to break even just due to the style I play . I have £100k bankroll but due to family I cannot go to the U.S. Do u know of anyone over here that does it? I know Steven Bridges( that is how I found your channel ) says it’s not good but I have a strong edge in 50% of the casinos here that I will never get backed off?
@Karen-pc1jx
@Karen-pc1jx 3 жыл бұрын
I was just watching Las Vegas on E. Season 2 Episode 2 “The Count of Montecito”. It is about a card counting ring. Pretty funny.
@lynch7676
@lynch7676 3 жыл бұрын
That Airbud joke got me
@maximusfrank2835
@maximusfrank2835 Жыл бұрын
Dude doubled the 9 over 10 cause he knew he had to YOLO it with that -1.5% edge 😂
@jessewright8556
@jessewright8556 Жыл бұрын
Somthing ive always wondered is if basic strategy helps you lose less then why would casinos sell them?
@rickl.461
@rickl.461 Жыл бұрын
Colin, you hit the nail on the head at the end when you mentioned expecting some inaccuracy for the sake of dramatic effect. A little bending of the rules of realism makes sense or can be necessary for exposition or to make films accessible to broader audiences. On the other hand, doubling on a 9 against a dealer's 10 is just lazy, and shows they put zero effort into learning anything about what they're portraying in the film. Like you two, they wouldn't even need a consultant to know better, just an internet search.
@chesalgado
@chesalgado 2 жыл бұрын
Next can we get Ex-Abu Ghraib torturers react to scenes from The Card Counter
@sondjata
@sondjata 3 жыл бұрын
Hitting 14 v 6 is a super rare index play in the super idiot 16.
@c_span
@c_span 3 жыл бұрын
Why are 6:5s popping up everywhere
@donaldthe1801
@donaldthe1801 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. You need to do more on other blackjack movies..How about these tables when the dealer stays on all 17s..is there any edge on that either way
@MondoLeStraka
@MondoLeStraka 2 жыл бұрын
There is a 0.22% in favor of the player. That brings down the total house advantage to 0.3% if you're playing basic strategy.
@Arrowstompin
@Arrowstompin 2 жыл бұрын
It might have been an error in editing. Obviously they were supposed to have the 7 up not the 10. I didn’t even notice that when I watched it.
@DavidOrz
@DavidOrz 3 жыл бұрын
can you make a video on miki? the millionaire blackjack player whos in his 20s? all tatted up etc? i'd love a deep dive on that man.
@hgoatss4124
@hgoatss4124 3 жыл бұрын
Cool! Just Started to get into the blackjack scene
@ethanazeez7427
@ethanazeez7427 3 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on one deck blackjack? It seems easier since there’s no true count conversion. Can it be beaten and is the house edge higher or lower?
@seanmacpherson9333
@seanmacpherson9333 3 жыл бұрын
I believe there would still be a cconversion (dividing the running count by the fraction of the deck remaining). I'm not sure how the math works out, but I think it is favorable for counting, although casinos pretty much never use single deck blackjack.
@livebassngames
@livebassngames 2 жыл бұрын
yeah in fact you multiply your count for a true count... 0.75 deck remaining mean your count of 10 = 13
@apevee4594
@apevee4594 3 жыл бұрын
“ I’d rather watch Holy Rollers than a card counter that don’t know his shit” 😆 He needs to buy your book and maybe join the church sessions. 😆
@joshuadeleon6491
@joshuadeleon6491 3 жыл бұрын
Lmaoo the jab at Atlantic City 🤣 so sketchy lol
@yournamechris9634
@yournamechris9634 2 жыл бұрын
the movie actually makes no sense... not even just from a card counting pov but like what kind of card counter would invest their time into wsop events or even poker in general?? Not even mentioning how it tried to be two movies at once with the military criticism theme that didn't really tie back into the main premise at all???
@jayit6851
@jayit6851 2 жыл бұрын
If you show lack of basic strategy like that I would imagine casinos would think there's no way you're a card counter
@alanrice7410
@alanrice7410 2 жыл бұрын
There is a scene where Rainman hits 18 against a 4. When his brother berates him, Rainman tells his brother that there are lots of queens left. Hitting hard 18 is never a correct play under any circumstances. If the pack was rich in 10 value cards, this would be even more of a reason not to take a card. In Dark Matter, the player splits 10’s against an 8. This is only a proper play if the true count is at least +20. Counts like this are extremely rare. It seemed like they only played a few hours. It is much more likely that this was a movie error than the player had a +20 true count. The writers could have put in a scene where she was asked why she split 10’s against an 8 and have her state that the true count was +20. Then this would not be a movie error about proper strategy.
@jayiflee5359
@jayiflee5359 2 жыл бұрын
I think they intentionally did that to make you crack us up so much
@6thwilbury2331
@6thwilbury2331 2 жыл бұрын
In the hand where he doubles on a nine against a dealer 10, it initially shows a dealer 5. The cut to the wide shot shows a 10 up rather than a 5. More of a continuity error than a blackjack one.
@6thwilbury2331
@6thwilbury2331 2 жыл бұрын
Also, there's another scene (might be the very first blackjack scene) where the players are signaling "hit" or "stand" BEFORE the dealer flips over his up card.
@troyw1000
@troyw1000 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you guys dislike Atlantic City? Planning to go this summer.
@kickinit6644
@kickinit6644 3 жыл бұрын
Colin and loudon much better player than I am at this time and please correct me if I’m wrong…anyway If you are Shuffle tracking or hole carding could you be in a position to double a 9 against a 10?
@stevenhelgason8190
@stevenhelgason8190 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, absolutely. Maybe not shuffle tracking but hole carding for sure. If you knew the hole card was a 2-6, giving a 12 -16 total you would double. Same with hitting 14 vs 6 or whatever that hand was - knowing the hole card being low, giving a known 7 to 11 total, you'd surely hit.
@kickinit6644
@kickinit6644 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenhelgason8190 thx for replying Do you know if there are strategy cards for this scenario? I actually saw an advantage player Double a 9?against a 10. I was at the HR in Biloxi and after a couple of shoes he left. I later ran into him bought him a few drinks and he fessed up he was there rr with a team
@stevenhelgason8190
@stevenhelgason8190 3 жыл бұрын
@@kickinit6644 There are hole card strategy charts. I tried to reply to you with specifics but my replies kept getting kicked off
@Folsomdsf2
@Folsomdsf2 2 жыл бұрын
FYI, from the start, they're talking bout a 49.25 50.75. That's the 1.5 advantage.
@dennisgodaire485
@dennisgodaire485 3 жыл бұрын
All I can say is Thank You ....
@jackderke
@jackderke 3 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to hear your opinion on all the other casino games. Meaning Poker and the likes, but also if there are other beatable games out there :) Thanks
@mottthehoople684
@mottthehoople684 3 жыл бұрын
never let the facts get in the way of a good story..that is the movie business
@theconservativechristian
@theconservativechristian 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a movie the casino industry would make lol
@camwestfall918
@camwestfall918 Жыл бұрын
3:53 Misconception, not a misnomer
@xukelho
@xukelho 3 жыл бұрын
Does card counting work on online casinos? Since there is an infinite amount of cards, do the tactics work?
@MrZzstop
@MrZzstop 2 жыл бұрын
Colin made a video on it. Spoiler alert: online counting doesn't work well. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4Kno62Ae51loZI
@stevenhelgason8190
@stevenhelgason8190 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the movie makers were mistakenly referring to hole card strategy charts...
@865354hayden
@865354hayden 3 ай бұрын
why did they make it so dark and make it like card counting is some hard nosed rough and tough thing?
@valera1507
@valera1507 11 ай бұрын
Can you use a basic strategy card inside the casino?
@Blackjackapprenticeship
@Blackjackapprenticeship 11 ай бұрын
Yes
@valera1507
@valera1507 11 ай бұрын
@@Blackjackapprenticeship that’s awesome. Most players in casinos only use the card and still earn money
@guibox3
@guibox3 3 жыл бұрын
It amazes me in today's Hollywood, that with all the CGI in movies and all the attention to detail (like fight scenes, languages, etc etc), they can't take the time to get the details about card counting right when making a movie about...well, card counting. LOL!
@livebassngames
@livebassngames 2 жыл бұрын
the beauty is they can use CGI to make a director's cut and change the cards on the tables in each scene to fit better strategy
@amazingabby25
@amazingabby25 3 жыл бұрын
As a poker player, this movie annoyed me because now people will assume I count cards even more, which they already do. “I’m professional poker player.” “Oh wow do you count cards” If I had 100 dollars for every time, I had that convo I could retire
@SamTheCarnivore
@SamTheCarnivore 3 жыл бұрын
There have been enough well known poker players lose a ton of money at blackjack that the casinos probably aren't too worried. 😉
@Trevi_Andretti
@Trevi_Andretti 2 жыл бұрын
Why do casinos sell basic strategy cards??
@brianferrick1447
@brianferrick1447 3 жыл бұрын
That looks like a good comedy! Should've starred Adam Sandler.🤣
@pattmahiney
@pattmahiney 3 жыл бұрын
Would've been better lmao
@guibox3
@guibox3 3 жыл бұрын
The card counting scene in The Hangover was more accurate. Ha ha ha!
@brianferrick1447
@brianferrick1447 3 жыл бұрын
@@guibox3 Budget cuts in the film industry I guess. Ha ha ha!
@brianferrick1447
@brianferrick1447 3 жыл бұрын
Movie TItle: "He's not the best card counter, but he tries."
@Git_Harry
@Git_Harry 2 жыл бұрын
Is there no poker in the movie?
@kodywilliams8606
@kodywilliams8606 5 ай бұрын
I am so sorry I watched this movie. I’m training to count right now through BJA so I watched the movie. Talked about counting cards for maybe 7 minutes
@bmaida2778
@bmaida2778 3 жыл бұрын
Should do this with the movie 21
@bonniebluets
@bonniebluets Жыл бұрын
Bro went vilent 😂
@lapiojitarealestateventure4269
@lapiojitarealestateventure4269 2 жыл бұрын
You sensitive smart guys. I would be making all of the mistake issac would be making if i was an actor. lololol
@djwarrior5150
@djwarrior5150 Жыл бұрын
But he got a 5 on the 14 against the 6, and the dealer busted, so clearly he's clairvoyant 😂. I'm interested thou, y'all skipped over the scene of them talking about owing backers if they lose, any experience with that? Great work, learning a lot from y'all's videos
@DwayneS777
@DwayneS777 3 жыл бұрын
Doubling a 9 against a 10 and playing a 6 to 5 game? Thats a "card counter" that deserves to be pistol-whipped by the security in the back room for being so stupid. In reality casinos love players like that.
@DKarkarov
@DKarkarov 4 ай бұрын
They realized the same problem with this film i did, it isn't about card counting at all and actually has very few gambling/playing scenes.
@stewiegriffin6503
@stewiegriffin6503 3 жыл бұрын
as IT expert , I also always laught at movies where hacker breaks into computer... it's just non sense
@NeverTalkToCops1
@NeverTalkToCops1 3 жыл бұрын
Hackers always yell: "I'm in! and do the handclap thing".
@fullmetalandtheflame438
@fullmetalandtheflame438 2 жыл бұрын
The important thing about this movie is, first, it’s not actually about counting cards. Like, at all. Also, he’s not even trying to win big. He’s intentionally making just a little. He doesn’t care about the money.
@Mike-ld5vp
@Mike-ld5vp 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Colin! Your tattoos are BAD ASS!!! If you don’t mind sharing I’d love to know what the Hebrew translate to?
@thedexterbros
@thedexterbros 3 жыл бұрын
It's a cool title but it's just a great movie that's not really about counting. Blackjack is the backdrop
@thetruthhurts9112
@thetruthhurts9112 3 жыл бұрын
Doubling for less with a 9 vs a dealer 10 is actually correct strategy!!! As long as "less" is zero
@musatebi486
@musatebi486 3 жыл бұрын
Still a mistake, if 2 3 4 5 6 7 come you cant take another card.
@seismoi0822
@seismoi0822 3 жыл бұрын
To check - casino owners funding a movie where card counting and betting are misrepresented
@MrBill1j
@MrBill1j 3 жыл бұрын
Haha wow, at that point he almost could’ve looked at the dealers face with a 5 against a 10 and say: I’ll staayyyy 👋🏻 I’d really like for you to make a reaction to the movie called: Las Vegas 21 !
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