Blackmagic Pocket 6k VS Panasonic S1H

We are so excited to be bringing the Blackmagic Pocket 6k and Panasonic S1H head to head to see which one is the best cinematic camera in this price range! Which one would you go for?
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[@w.w.7148]

Two 6K cameras and you're not even able to upload in 4K?

[@DennisSchmitz]

thought the same lol

[@vlcthefish]

Thank you. Fucking crazy these channels are so lazy not to be able to upload in 4k. Even channels like iJustine are in 4k. It's as stupid as reviewing a HD camera and uploading in 480p which im sure a few manage to do back in the day.

[@timelapsega]

Seriously

[@koolkutz7]

Too right! I would make way more sense on a so called test like this to upload in 4K.

[@edingacic546]

Usless review

[@johnnewton5362]

Them: The noise is unusable at 25,600 ISO Me: I can’t see any noise at all on either PLEASE add a 300% crop for noise and shadow recovery tests because youtube compression hides noise. Also, makes me think that the Panasonic is noise reduced and the pocket is not. Noise reduce the pocket in the free resolve studio noise reduction (instead of junky in camera noise reduction) and I’ll almost guarantee it performs better in a noise test. Also, color grading for a film is very different than basic luma/saturation adjustments or LUTs. So of course you didn’t see a difference between the Pocket’s high bit rate and the S1H lower bit rate. Also, I get why some people want sensor stabilization. I personally hate it. I want my camera to move when I move, not resist every movement I make. And there are a lot of people like me. At least acknowledge why you’d want and not want stabilization, because it’s not better, it’s just a different thing catering to a different market.

[@cheguevarabig20]

couldnt agree more! also they should upload 4k video

[@JamesVanDeWaal]

Yeah BM usage in these comparisons (the wider reviewing world) is a little misunderstood. It’s very much designed with the idea that you can bump or shrink colours in post through 12 bit BRAW and use the 10 - bit ProRes for more hand over media situations or quick turn over. From what I’ve seen graders do with the BM footage corrects a lot of things here including the fall off in the greens. Though correct me if I’m wrong.

[@johnnewton5362]

James Van De Waal You’re right. I get so annoyed by reviewers that knock BM color science without acknowledging that you can (and should) be shooting RAW. Raw footage comes before color science has been applied, so you don’t have to use BM color science: either grade your footage yourself, or use a LUT from someone whose color science you like. There are hundreds out there.

[@JamesVanDeWaal]

John Newton yes and that confusion pops up a lot around the comparison with small body cams hitting the video/photography market, that are just not at all what BM is shooting for.

[@jeremyedwards9304]

You can turn off the stabilization in the S1H, you cannot turn it on in the blackmagic. With the gear most of us use I feel ibis is very beneficial. You need extra heavy gear and rigs to try and compensate for the light weight of the bm cameras. I have a 4K as well as an S1H and that is just my opinion of course.

[@bobbydbuze]

These comparisons are nice but they're missing the point. 12 bit raw vs 10 bit V-log! There's no comparison in real world situations when you're shooting a film and actually color grading it, not just correcting. The 10 bit is only a billion colors vs the 68 billion colors in 12 bit!!!

[@adamaj74]

Only a billion? Like your eyes can even distinguish a billion different colors, let alone 68 billion, lol.

[@bobbydbuze]

@@adamaj74 Bro It's not about the 10 million colors our eyes can see, more about the amount of colors it takes for an image to make up those colors, fewer colors result in banding and other artifacts, thats what makes the difference between footage that looks cinematic and footage that looks like video!

[@bobbydbuze]

I've got a video explaining this in more detail here on my channel : kzbin.info/www/bejne/eH2WqnWNq8aqf6s

[@BalaKrishna-bq5iz]

@@adamaj74 did you realize how you sounded like?

[@crisvega7588]

12 bit raw coming to S1H

[@raredreamfootage]

2:07 - The skin tone of the Pocket 6K looks more natural to me.

[@SewTubular]

You can't really judge IQ from KZbin, you really need to see either the 10-bit IPB or RAW output color-corrected and graded on a calibrated monitor. ( Panasonic often has terrible default settings, so things can change quite a bit when the camera is set correctly )

[@SewTubular]

Here's a better representation of the S1H color performance: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKqwgIV-jJamack

[@MichaelDeVowe]

Thanks for the comparison, JP. Hope you're doing well! I just picked up the BMPCC4K to start working with RAW for more client and KZbin work. Great vid!

[@TheSlantedLens]

Of course Michael! Glad you enjoyed it. That's so exciting! I'd love to see your work once you're releasing it. Keep in touch on Instagram @theslantedlens and send me some of your work!

[@MichaelDeVowe]

@@TheSlantedLens Of course, will do!

[@GarethStack]

Kinda weird that they never mention you can literally change ISO (and white balance) in post on the Blackmagic. I feel that that is at least as big a feature as stablisation, and something that is an absolute lifesaver in real world use. Not to mention having an enormous impact on real life dynamic range (since you're in effect shifting the entire dynamic range). The highlight recovery feature is also incredible. Be very curious to see how these were graded in post, since this doesn't match my experience with footage from the two cameras at all.

[@BalaKrishna-bq5iz]

These are dslr dudes "testing" these. Silly how little they cared about the skin tones. Those s1h skintones are literally a tomato. There's a reason ARRI is the standard for hollywood despite not even shooting 4k, let alone 6k.

[@Stargaze79]

It feels like this video was sponsored by Panasonic. But real professionals know which camera is better when it comes to image quality...

[@hex4713]

This review felt really biased

[@XavierMunch]

Hey ! great video ! A little tip for future comparisons : even if filmed in HD, you can export to youtube in 4K to allow the extra bitrate. Noise on the BMPCC in the ISO test is not quite visible though the youtube compression.;) Also, compared to these, what do you think of the Sigma FP ? Cheers !

[@BoomingVisuals]

Same thing i was saying with the ISO test. I couldn't see the noise til 12,800 iso on the BMPCC6k. 4,000 iso looked very clean on both on my monitor and the p6k colors looked better.

[@hustleberryfintech4726]

And Z cam

[@TheSlantedLens]

Xavier Munch thank you so much! We will definitely aim to upload in 4K for future videos. And we‘ll get back to you on the Sigma FP ;)

[@BartJohnsonProd]

Gabriella! You’re on The Slanted Lens!!

[@GabrielaKostadinovaWhatsUp]

Haha I sure am! and Hi to you!!

[@phillipmaguire4671]

Great video guys. Can you share with me the 3 main "Have-to-have" lenses you would most likely use on the Panasonic, (for video production).

[@keuntaspan]

For me personally with a pocket 4k my favorite thing by far is recording straight to an SSD. Holy crap it's the best. I don't think I can go back to a DSLR again after that. But both sweet cameras obviously

[@DenisCalligraphy]

Great and informative videos, thank you guys! Someone has to say, however, the two cameras are difficult to discern which is which when, for example, subtitles under the Blackmagic in picture say Panasonic, and vice versa. Also , opinions expressed about "this camera" (which camera?) are sometimes unintelligible as to which camera is meant. I hope this comment is seen as constructive. Keep up the great work!

[@anmedia4135]

Thanks for the 1080 Upload! looks phenomenal -_-

[@AW-go1tf]

Thanks for the balanced / nuanced test. You pitched it just right for the small budget indi / part time user, like me. How'd you find the auto-focus between the two? I'm guessing the the S1H was better but am curious what you found. I imagine the IS the Panasonic has would increase the difference. There were spots where it's hard to say why exactly, but the BM image looked a bit nicer, even if not according to some of the criteria you were applying for nicely. I think it is what people call cinematic, but it is hard to quantify.

[@castielvargastv7931]

Black magic camers dint have autofocus at all😹

[@cire30a]

it was hard to tell watching it in hd? not sure if a 4k version will be available soon. But blackmagic looked to have more detail and better highlight roll off. if you get a zcam f6, please test that out also!

[@JoePlomo]

JP: Panasonic has an "Edge" over the BMPCC on this test Me: Whaaatt!!!???

[@Aviciiz]

I thought the Panasonic held details better in the highlights and has better rolloff

[@TheSlantedLens]

Star of the Sea Productions thank you for bringing this up. We absolutely hope to be uploading in 4K for videos that support it soon. And we will totally keep the zcam F6 in mind as well. Thank you!

[@DeepteshLovesTECH]

Difference between full raw recording vs V-Log(or any full Log profile) vs 10 bit 4:2:2 , I don't understand the difference, I mean they all are beneficial for colour grading right?

[@jrsaintfilms]

what was the light you were using outside?

[@pedromedina7349]

9:26 I cannot see the noise on both cameras

[@PAINFULLYGIFTEDVISUALS]

Was thinking the same thing they were talking like it was so bad but I couldn't see it

[@Houswal]

Same

[@JohnUntivero]

@@PAINFULLYGIFTEDVISUALS They were probably looking at the footage at 6K . Since we are watching in 1080p, we won't be able to see it.

[@ZeroFuxBE]

This is the result of the videocompression. The compressionalgorithms remove noise to save storagespace.

[@raredreamfootage]

Which picture profile did you use for the S1H?

[@DogueDeBordeauxPL]

Which panasonic s1h settings in the tonal range test?

[@clifftotten7609]

Did you use VLog on the S1H?

[@hustleberryfintech4726]

Add Z cam to the Royal rumble & how did the difference of menus impact the usability

[@Filmmaker809]

Good video comparison. I would love a S1H, but I have a Panasonic GH5 & GH5s, the S1H is out of my price range right now. I wish Gabriela had said some words though.

[@robertolopezfoto]

Im not sure on How to feel about this video,, comparison with different Lenses, and is not uploaed in a good quality, no files to download, for me the black Magic looked better in Every single Shot

[@TANZANIAFILMMAKINGTV]

Very good test u make my day to make decision

[@kendrickgray2873]

what are u gonna buy hmmm

[@welldone8235]

wow, what a difference, thanks for the test!

[@TheSlantedLens]

well done Of course! Thanks for watching and commenting! :)

[@keithgoreham1463]

Sure would be nice if your viewers could see the noise issues you’re talking about. With a 4K video, or a 100% zoom for HD. At HD res, both cameras’ output looks smooth in all the tests.

[@heartshapedfilms]

Though this video and the sigma FP video helped a lot I was hoping you'd have the 6k pocket Vs the FP as these are what I am debating between. At the moment I am waiting on the fence for what canon bring with the R6. Though we will see what comes.

[@TheSlantedLens]

We will add that to our list of comparisons to consider.

[@dyh914]

How is it I'm seeing more contrast and color on the panasonic side? I'm not sure I see what JP see's.

[@TheSlantedLens]

It would help if you could share the time stamp of what you are mentioning and then we can respond to what you are wondering about.

[@DarrenMcPhee]

Thanks for doing this comparison! I've been very interested in the S1H ever since I found out about it. It's hard to tell with the KZbin compression, but for me, it kind of looks like there is a bit of a smoothing effect on the skin with the S1H - there was just something plastic or artificial-looking about it in comparison to the Pocket. Did you guys notice that?

[@w.w.7148]

Correct, I own the S1H for 1 1/2 months now and my footage looks way much better. It seems all the comparison footage wasn't shot full frame, just Super 35 cropped!

[@TheSlantedLens]

Yes, we definitely noticed the smoothing effect. Whether that effect makes the camera better or worse comes down to personal preference. We found the S1H to look amazing and test well beside the Blackmagic, but both of course, are incredible cameras.

[@CymBan]

Are you sure you guys didn't have your labels switched around during the ISO test? When I watched it and you were saying you saw noise in the BM and no noise in the Panasonic I saw the left image (labelled BM ) as Clean and the right image (labelled Panasonic) as noisy and the right image got progressively worse but u kept saying the Panasonic was still clean and usable?

[@kgone]

Great video

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thank you!

[@NathanKatash]

id like to see if there is difference between the s1 and s1h in color science and dynamic range

[@globalturfwar]

Just bought the S1, so definitely interested in seeing its cinematic credentials, seeing that they share the same sensor.

[@NathanKatash]

@@globalturfwar some people say that they have different log and color science

[@mabsfreeman1187]

@@NathanKatash Would be good to see a comparison. I've seen some stuff shot on the S1 that looks pretty stunning, so I'm going to push it and see if I can replicate. There's a short called Tuning, where some shots looked like they were from a feature.

[@NathanKatash]

@@mabsfreeman1187 really nice short film they used atomos recorder

[@mabsfreeman1187]

@@NathanKatash and Leica summicron lenses. Good enough for my ambitions

[@graymatters7584]

Testing battery life might've been a good tie-breaker. Battery life and shooting stills were the reasons I went with the S1h. I've had cameras that ate batteries, and never again will I ignore that detail. And I have NOT been disappointed with the S1h's performance on still pictures. Paired with the pricey L-mount lenses, the pictures coming out of this thing are phenomenal. Those lenses aren't cheap, but I'm making enough money with these tools that the price is well worth it.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Great tip. Thanks for sharing!

[@vishalzparadize]

What camera did you shoot the episode on..?

[@TheSlantedLens]

We shoot with the Canon C200.

[@RandyAlanShaffer]

I don’t know if I’m crazy, but watching this video on a 4K 50 inch tv, I don’t see any of the noise that you guys notice. Maybe it’s different in a phone? The only section I noticed a difference is in the underexposed section.

[@MikeWestt]

What are you guys looking at?

[@DavidNJ1]

New Sigma fp that records Cinema DNG to external SSD?

[@LimitbreakerStudios]

7:17 - He said WHAT kind of test?

[@kennethwilliamsinc]

Limitbreaker Studios 😂 yep he said 🍑 🕳 test!

[@enricoparenti3057]

For many people the S1H is a more flexible camera, it has a viewfinder and a tiltable flip-out screen, plus it records 400mbps 10 bit in h264, that's is almost the same bitrate of a Prores but with the "intelligence" of h264 compression, (that would be like a 800mbps in Intraframe codecs world). Plus, if you eventually need raw you can always attach a Ninja V and record on to it from 2020. Not to mention the stabilisation and the lowlight capabilities.

[@Tcivan]

it is intra when you record all-i mode. AVCintra is 2x as efficient as Prores, so you are right, its the same as recording ProresHQ 4K, when you use 400mbps ALL-i.

[@danielshepherd7306]

Lower bit rates hide the noise. So the difference between the cameras may be exaggerated for your veiwing with the Panasonic's lower bit rate, and almost invisible to us once on youtube with its much lower bitrate.

[@buckwilde1511]

This video shows you: If your content is only getting delivered to KZbin or Vimeo, it doesn't really matter what camera you use. The EXTREME COMPRESSION will make spending all that extra money on an expensive camera a WASTE! (Plus, most average people watch on smartphones AND most don't even make the videos full screen ... so you're REALLY wasting your time if you're not just paying attention to STORY AND SOUND which should be the most important things ANYWAY.)

[@dandobi]

nothing but love for ya'll, and this video was great and a lot of good info, but ya'll GOTTA upload these puppies in 4k... the 1080 upload just has a fuzz to it that doesn't give the viewer enough detail here, especially when we're all pixel peeping here. again though, thank you for posting, continue the good good : )

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks so much much for your comment Dan! We really appreciate you being a part of the TSL fam and we totally got you on the 4k! We will definitely upload so you pixel peepers can get those deets you're looking for in the next one. :) Thanks again!

[@raybailey1651]

For the price the Blackmagic is a better option. BRAW, ProRes and recording to SDD. If one is not taking photos, Blackmagic wins hand down. All that lighting and shadows testing is subjective to the audience watching the video. They both produce great videos.

[@dimitrimoonlight]

Do you use noise redaction for BMPCC6K footages?

[@PawelChyrowski]

braw natively use it

[@dimitrimoonlight]

@@PawelChyrowski i mean using it on DaVinci Resolve.

[@PawelChyrowski]

@@dimitrimoonlight no, braw has build in (Denoising in the Camera). That's why Braw isn't a real RAW IMHO

[@dimitrimoonlight]

@@PawelChyrowski i know it but Braw is design to apply denoise in DaVinci Resolve.

[@PawelChyrowski]

@@dimitrimoonlight 👍

[@LikeAGentlemanPlease]

1:19 they was like, “really? Mow us away? Yeahhhhh?”

[@SkatingFreely]

surprised how alike they look. might buy a s1h for my a cam to my Blackmagic 6k!

[@TheSlantedLens]

Might want to look at the EOS R5. Could be a great companion.

[@SkatingFreely]

@@TheSlantedLens Yeah, ridiculous camera. But it overheats. The s1h can do interview shots. We will see how the r5 handles when more reviews come.. thanks.

[@oublckoficial5869]

Wow! This is the craziest review ever lol!!! 1080p guys?!😂😂😂

[@smalldeekgeorge]

Did you turned off noise reduction and sharpness in panasonic?

[@TheSlantedLens]

We shot with the standard profile and did not make any changes in the noise reduction and sharpness.

[@MovieTrailerTeam]

3:57 She is a Blackmagic agent :)

[@ectoproductions]

After the upload to KZbin, the noisy situations are not noticable, especially on a phone, so these dancing shadows you talk about aren't visible. Haha

[@hawaiirealmedia5610]

The quality of this upload is not good. It is HD and it looks pretty soft on my iMac 5k 27". Something is wrong.

[@gnkstudios6138]

yea...without us being able to download the files theres no way we can see what yal see. i felt the pocket6k destroyed the panasonic in pretty much every category. but it just shows you how good cameras are these days an how silly it is when people argue over them. lol but keep comparing them. love your reviews

[@TheSlantedLens]

Gregory Grist true! We will try to get some downloads out there for you guys to really get a good look at the difference. Happy to hear you appreciate the reviews! :) let me know if you have any recommendations/requests for future videos.

[@iforgotmyusername0]

you too sound hurt

[@FRANKRICECOLD209]

It Is Awesome The S1H Has Been Added To The NETFLIX Camera List Approval

[@SergeyNeoN]

Guys, thanks for the video. But you forgot to mention the difference in sensor size.. Which actually is dramatically important, as for me.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Yes, you are absolutely right. There is a significant difference.

[@REJINrs]

Video comparison between the S1H and canon 5D mark iv

[@DeepteshLovesTECH]

REJIN SANTO what?! 5Div?!! There is no competition. The 5Div is crushed by Apsc cameras these days. You are going to compare line skipped croppped 4k with full sensor 6k down sampled 4k 10bit 4:2:2 footage from the Panasonic??!!

[@ShaneHarderPhoto]

The main difference is going to be in post. I know you said you played with them in post but editing bm raw files is so so Superior to even the 10 bit pro res files coming out of my much more expensive cinema camera. I can't imagine the Panasonic files having anywhere near the range and color, let alone ability to change white balance and ISO all in post. To me it's no contest BM by far.

[@impatrickt]

you can shoot BRAW on the Panasonic

[@stevenfries7032]

@@impatrickt yeah, with an external recorder like the ninja. but then you have to lug that around and power that as well. BM is an all in one unit. Esp the pro.

[@impatrickt]

@@stevenfries7032 I didnt not enjoy the 6k pro. id rather lug a ninja than use that camera.

[@stevenfries7032]

@@impatrickt you seem to have an unpopular opinion about the 6k PRO. The screen on the pro is the same res as the Ninja V. 6k pro has a brighter screen. You already got internal NDs; panasonic lacks in that regard. Plus like I said, You have to mount a Ninja V with its clucky batteries. The menu system in the BM is way simplier to use than Panasonic. And I understand that as Panasonic is both a stills and video camera. But as far as being a Cinema Cameras; BM wins hands down. Regardless if you didn't enjoy it or not. But Panasonic does an amazing job keeping a smaller form factor, weather proofing, and being a hybrid shooter.

[@impatrickt]

@@stevenfries7032 anyone I know that had a 6K pro has switched to Sony or the Komodo. It's just not ergonomic. Cool for the price but I don't recommend it. I was pretty positive in my review of it regardless as I know there's a small fanbase.

[@TheGirlSkateBoardCo]

Sold my 4 S1H bodies and all lenses and upgraded to 4 Canon 50D’s and 50mm 1.8. The image we get now is amazing! Have no regrets in selling my S1H bodies.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Glad you are happy with your purchase! Thanks for sharing!

[@megasupremetech5440]

Hi sir love your videos so knowledgeable pls do a full review of both these camera as I am confused between both of them my primary requirement is I make short films

[@vlcthefish]

Thumbs down for 2k upload when talking about 6k cameras.

[@kendrickgray2873]

LOL

[@Dubi00]

For me this was slightly bias mainly because the subject never held the chart evenly between each shot so you really cant do a proper comparison unless you clamp it down on a C stand and so there is no change in light falling on the card (accurate color chart consistency). Plus working with Panasonic cameras which have been around for awhile makes jumping from an older model to a newer one very easy to do, whereas the new pocket 4k has been around for barely a year and with constant updates; no one has had a chance to fully understand that ecosystem (even if you are coming from a Ursa Pro background). So everything you mentioned about playing around still has a handicap vs having experience with V log files from the GH5s or Gh5. The pocket cinema cameras are very unique in where sometimes in outdoor scenarios, blowing up the iso and closing down the aperture will actually help retain some detail in those hot areas like when you were shooting against the white wall. Its not always about the lowest possible ISO, raising the ISO from what Ive seen degrades the quality but that also lessens the sharpness of the video allowing that small margin of error in highlighted areas. I saw a video where the pocket4k held better detail on clouds at 1000 iso vs 400 ISO due to the higher ISO and stopping down. Now idk if this has changed from current updates because I am not always shooting clouds but the pocket 4k/6k definitely has a learning curve to full understand the workflow and ecosystem of BRAW and new compressions. Plus shooting in degrees vs shutter-speed is very delightful. its the little things that add up to make the pocket cameras unrivaled. *Minus battery life; but again forcing me to get V-mount batteries was a game changer and I am glad this camera pushes artists not just in skill but helping expand your arsenal and understand the cinema world better. Love your videos though, keep it up!

[@maconins123]

Like the Bmpcc picture just a little more. But the s1h basically has a built in gimbal.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[@drydockstudios]

Anamorphic?

[@diannasloyer]

So many things I love about black magic...we can save so much in it...but I will say Morey is a problem from time to time. That is hard to fix. color and light is easier.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Yes, Moiré can be a pain to try to fix.

[@PhaseSkater]

Jay p Morgan. Hahahahaha you get it? Where’s your friend chase at?!?

[@TheSlantedLens]

Good one. Chase is my nephew!! : )

[@imaginationdevice]

Yes but the bm does raw.. you cn recover highlights/darks.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Yes that is a major advantage of the Blackmagic!

[@stevenfries7032]

The dynamic range test showed very little difference between the two. At times even with the 6k winning out in some instances. Color between the two have their own character and both are cinimatic S1h certainly wins the ISO test, but as stated you wouldnt use them above crazy ISO levels anyways. The thing S1h wins out on is IBIS, AF, weather sealing, and Full frame shallow depth of field. Now with the release of 6k PRO for 2500, its a fierce competitor. Just having BRAW and being 1500 dollars less, and better lens options makes BMPCC 6k pro a steal compared to S1H.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Good points. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[@stevenfries7032]

@@TheSlantedLens and thanks for listening my friend.

[@MistaFussichannel]

Hit the highlight recovery button in Davinci Resolve!

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for watching and keep on clickin!

[@GabbyTech]

just get both call the day

[@TheSlantedLens]

That would be nice. Thanks for watching!

[@chargely]

The pocket 6k also has STUDIO version resolve included for free

[@FoiMal123]

Why is BMPCC sharper? Aren't both of them 6k?

[@TheSlantedLens]

They are both 6k. Not sure which images you are referring to.

[@FoiMal123]

The Slanted Lens every image. BMPCC looks sharper.

[@DanceDeepDas]

Black magic ❤

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for sharing your preference!

[@TheSlantedLens]

Hi TSL fam! Thoughts? Feelings? Questions? Here for it all. 😀

[@leebrandt33]

The Pocket 6k is supposed to have more dynamic range than the 4k, and I've verified it on some tests. But in this one, the 6k seems to show less highlight retention than when you compared the Pocket 4k to the Amira. Were the setting different this time around? Why would this be? You seem to have exposed it differently this time around

[@BalaKrishna-bq5iz]

Upload it in 480p when you compare 8k cameras. Waste of time. And your results aren't even in line with you're own results of Pocket 4k/Amira video. When you put LUTs on them and randomly tweak it to your liking... what ate you em comparing? Also, you guys don't even care about the skintones? Isn't it the most important thing for a professional camera? Unless you're making real estate videos.That magenta on s1h is a non starter.

[@omnihassan246]

wish this was uploaded in 4k..theyre clearly seeing what we are not

[@TheSlantedLens]

That was a while ago. Thanks for watching!

[@brendanmcnamara7581]

@@TheSlantedLens Why didn't you upload in 4K then?? 4K uploads have been a thing on KZbin for quite some time I don't understand why you would upload a video comparing 2 6K cameras in HD

[@rolandrickphotography]

I’m not sure what I should comment. This comparison makes no sense. The BMPCC6K is intended to roll Blackmagic Raw, 14 stops dynamic range, having almost infinite tweaking possibilities in DaVinci Resolve. Correctly deal with dual ISO please (I didn’t see any noise in this contribution anyway) and you keep BMPCC noise free, and somehow it is not possible to compare a cinema camera vs a ML photo camera which may also roll movies... I am confused about, what should this comparison be good for handling the BMPCC not as intended, not using Color page of DaVinvi, not applying LUTs etc. Btw: in the EV test, the reds of Panasonic crush totally where BMPCC footage remains consistent and flat: intended to color correct in post to achieve the mood the director wants to have it like so...

[@bentonpix]

BM all the way!

[@TheSlantedLens]

Cool! Make sure to check out our other videos comparing Blackmagic cameras to others! They've really impressed us in all of them. :)

[@bentonpix]

​@@TheSlantedLens Yes, I've seen all of your great BM camera reviews! I have the original 2.5k and pocket cameras and the UM4.6. They all punch way above their price. IMO the biggest issue with BM is their quality control. It took 3 copies of the 4.6 before I finally got one that was relatively free from the magenta corners issue that plagued many cameras in the first release. They never admitted that there was a production issue, when clearly there was. I personally think that leaving the final quality control up to the consumer, is part of their business model to keep their production costs low. Roll'em out and replace the ones that fall short. Fortunately their customer service is great!

[@Photographicelements]

The S1H has been approved by Netflix for its original content.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Amazing!

[@mrazrasul3273]

the different just lenss lens blackmagik lens canon rf 😅

[@thenewyorkgamer]

I see a channel in denial, that doesn’t address uploading a 6K camera test in 1080P. They don’t address any of the comments or any of the criticisms. And honestly I see why I’m not subbed.

[@pgtips4240]

The panasonic in UK is currently £3500 and the P6k is £2200. So the Panasonic SHOULD be better. Why on earth did you not do this in 4k??? This was a very poor decision imo not to do this.

[@Scoober222]

I prefer the S1H in all tests, minus the under exposure shot.

[@KokkiePiet]

I Don't see the noise they are complaining about with the BM, but I do see the color difference. Look at her Shirt at -2 to -4 EV, its terrible. I Also prefer the skin tones of the Black Magic. Color and Skintone with the ISO test the BM is, for me, absolut the winner. I think Color is much, much more important than some noise you can't even see at HD.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Great points. And true, color is important and often a personal taste. Thanks for watching!

[@bruhdabones]

J.P.Morgan Chase

[@Makta972]

Panasonic looks very video-ish black magic is way more organic

[@TheSlantedLens]

It is a lot of personal preference of the look you prefer.

[@David-py3tj]

bmpcc slaughters Panasonic lol especially in skin tones and dynamic rage

[@TheSlantedLens]

It does look pretty great! Keep on clickin!

[@angelovq]

They’ve no idea how use the bmpcc 6k

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for watching and keep on clickin!

[@MikeWestt]

That's not truth at all, the bmpcc did veery well, i don't know what you guys were looking at...lol

[@MegaBusterBR]

KZbin codec took away some of the noise

[@RodieOsc]

Blackmagic wins for me.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for sharing your vote!

[@hoangvunguyen9311]

ok so you guys were doing a 6K camera comparison but uploaded the video in 1080p??? what a joke!

[@MediaBuster]

Panasonic by far looks better... so much smoother..

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for sharing your preference!

[@pdas25762]

at 4:14, the cameras got swapped accidentally

[@TheSlantedLens]

Don't think so. But thanks for your feedback.

[@pdas25762]

@@TheSlantedLens no problem! Really like your videos, they have helped me a lot. I just noticed the colour of the lips and yellow top looked like it was swapped between the blackmagic and S1h footage.

[@SewTubular]

Her lips are so bland and desaturated with the BM shots, where they look more red and alive with the Panasonic shots. Would be good to know more about what the exact camera settings were for both cameras.

[@FrederikHeringa]

From 3:47 to 7:17 the back wall is blown out at pretty much every exposure value other than 0EV on the Panasonic. Even at -4EV? What the????

[@manueldeteffe]

Bmpcc 6k has to be used with black pro mist filter to look cinematic.

[@daviddejuannavarro291]

Absolutely not. People needs to stop overusing BPM and filters in general. You dont need any filters to look cinematic. Just good lighting.

[@Photo90210]

Blackmagic is a movie camera. Panasonic is not a movie camera ... This ends the conversation because there is nothing to compare.

[@Slesaint17]

you do know that "movie" camera is just a marketing term right? You're clearly a newbie to this stuff because what exactly would you say is the difference, what makes it a "movie" camera? The specs are very similar...

[@Arnaud___]

Still the Lumix S1H Becomes First Netflix-Certified Mirrorless Camera. The BM 6K Pro is not certified by them.

[@castielvargastv7931]

Panasonic looks much better

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for sharing your opinion!

[@joshuakellerman4104]

In the very first image, the S1H looks really "smooth" - that is, her skin doesn't really look like skin? Looks a bit like plastic? I'm on a color-accurate grading monitor now, and it is on the magenta side and very smooth. There is less variation in the skin tone shades (flatter) and it almost looks touched up, like somebody photoshopped it. Does anybody know if the folks at Panasonic do any facial recognition skin smoothing post-processing? The BMPCC 6K looks a bit more how I would naturally see this person outside, like more true-to-life. I don't dislike the S1H, it just looks unnatural in a way. I don't see it in any of the clips other than the beginning one. I like the way S1H overexposes (just in terms of rolloff) by about 1 stop I like the way BMPCC 6K underexposes (just in terms of color) by about 1 stop Honestly I would choose the BMPCC 6k because I like to shoot dark situations and I want those colors to be accurate in underexposure. I prioritize color accuracy over dynamic range any day.

[@Tcivan]

WEll based on the fact that they called Vlog a codec.... I dont think they knew what they were doing. This is where you see the S1H looking amazing: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3-YnapsnNR-fcU

[@donomaralkaydi600]

Indian girl haa

[@TheSlantedLens]

She was great to work with. Thanks for watching!

[@thenewyorkgamer]

Sorry but absolutely shameful to upload in 1080

[@David-py3tj]

black magic slaughters the Panasonic

[@TheSlantedLens]

It sounds like a dual! Thanks for watching!

[@jsleger3404]

This video is pure nonsense, comparing two 6k camera and uploading in HD....how can we see the difference?