Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K vs Panasonic GH5s - lowlight, sharpness and color review and test

In the following video I look at the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4k vs the Panasonic GH5s.
I go true some different aspekts of the camera. I do a sharpness test, lowlight test and I do my best to check witch camera has the best skin tones
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[@colourberry]

So you didnt shoot and compare RAW because in your words "It wouldn't be a fair comparison." Are you kidding? Isnt that the point of a comparison? To compare each cameras strengths, especially those strengths that one has well above the other. You compared the GH5s photography over the BMPCC4K, surely that is not a fair comparison too since the GH5s is primarily a stills camera??? No consistency and your shot comparisons are all over the place with framing and white balance.

[@Ryan-Payne]

He mentions that the black magic is a clear winner if you want a raw workflow. It's automatically a better image that the GH5s can't achieve, but comes with workflow and hard drive space limitations. As for the photo capabilities he mentions those prior to the comparison as an additional thing to consider then goes on to compare the video aspect of the cameras. To me the pocket 4k image is clearly better but the GH5s' functionality wins me over for being a camera that I'd own and use for any application. I'd rather rent something for short films.

[@ArberBaqaj]

Thanx for your reply Ryan. ❤️

[@ArberBaqaj]

Hope Ryan’s comment explains how I was thinking comparing these two cameras. But you are right, I could be More consistent with framing and white balance! Cheers for your through thought comment!

[@colourberry]

@@allenpayne9182 of course watch it. There's lots in the video. I just had a couple of points I wanted to mention.

[@eliteextremophile8895]

@@Ryan-Payne He doesn't mention that the other one is a cinema camera and the other one is for everything else. I've seen comparisons of iPhone vs RED Epic and they didn't say "iPhone is clearly better because I can call with it". or "it's not fair to compare the image quality of those because I can't attach cinema lenses to iPhone".

[@KristopherSatchell]

Thank you for the video. The variable in your footage can come from the different lenses you have on each camera.

[@thaniyahoo]

Thank you Amber for posting this informative nice video. Although your are saying the the low light performance is similar on both cameras, the performance of the Black Magic PC4k looks much better at higher iso where the details on the wall in your clip are preserved. On GH5s the wall details look clipped/overexposed. What do you think?

[@colinire15]

Hi and thanks for the great comparison. I have the BMPCC 4K but am thinking of changing to the GH5s. Does the Panny have the full V-Log installed as in the S1H or is it the light version?

[@PyrateGraphics]

you are really missing the point of a Cinema Camera, and trying to set a playing field that is favorable to one camera. No doubt if you want to shoot DSLR like video with auto focus and 8 bit out of the camera footage it might be fair. But this is hardly a real comparison

[@kokoronai594]

So basically the BlackMagic camera isn't good enough to be a "real" cinema camera and it isn't good enough to shoot "DSLR-like" video, as you put it?

[@RB-dl8gr]

Heartless depends on how one defines a “real cinema camera,” to me the blackmagic is as real as a cinema camera gets at that price point and dslr video doesn’t require auto focus, really unless you’re doing a vlog you shouldn’t be using autofocus anyway.

[@baddogentertainment6960]

@@kokoronai594 you're suggesting 8bit video is better than raw video?

[@kokoronai594]

@@baddogentertainment6960 No.

[@ivucica]

@@baddogentertainment6960 GH5s does 10bit 4k at 25p.

[@fotoworkshop_stuttgart]

Did a comparison this week as well and with the same lenses attached the sharpness was in my tests 99% similar. @arber: did you test the sharpness with different lenses?

[@migueldelgadillo9673]

I like your videos, man. However, I don't think it's a good comparison since you are exercising selective bias: you can't pick and choose which features you want to ignore like RAW. You need to test each camera's absolute strengths and weaknesses. Not cripple one camera by disregarding a feature like that. Peace!

[@ArberBaqaj]

Hi Miguel! Thank you 🙏 I really appreciate your knowable comment and you are right. Raw is superior and I say it at least twice in the video. However the headache in post is as of right now a no go for me. This might change with braw. And I still believe that the prores files are far better then the Panasonic files. Have a great day!

[@IsaiahMcAye]

I second your thoughts. While I respect his critiques on his subject matters, I’m highly disappointed by the bias judgement he’s particularly placed on the BMPCC4K. I own both cameras and can speak retrospectively on both without being selective as he’s done in this case. However his summaries are with faults of a high condemnation with steers more to giving the Gh5S the greater of esteem. Without placing them in the same situations during comparisons and similar control variants, then sadly the ideation to submit true life conclusions is bereft with errors.

[@ArberBaqaj]

​@@IsaiahMcAye Thanx for your great comment. I respect your opinion and you seem to be very well red. To be honest I do not have a biast towards none of the cameras. I just talk about the things that I see and some things are more important to me than others. I made this review with my self in mind and my type of shooting. For me at the moment raw is not important because time is money and post would take at least double the time for me. Also the ergonomics to me matter a lot and there the Pocket Camera is great to hold in the hand but a pain to shoot with lacking both a flippable screen and a evf. I really like both Blackmagic and Panasonic because of they do not cripple their products and give us what we want. So no bias here. On the contrary the GH5s was. slightly slightly better in iso 3200 and 6400 but it was so little so I decided not to mention it and because it can vary depending on how accurate you nail your exposure. As I say. I like both of them and as I siad, really appreciate your feedback. Have a great day my friend!

[@migueldelgadillo9673]

@@ArberBaqaj Hi Arber! Great to hear back from you. I think the crux of the matter isn't your personal taste (everybody has different tastes and preferences and that's perfectly fine), but I think it's that viewers click on your video because of its title "Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K vs Panasonic GH5s - lowlight, sharpness and color review and test" with the assumption that there will be a unbiased comparison using the scientific method (i.e. independent/dependent variables & controls). However, in a controlled environment (like I said before), you can't selectively choose NOT to include RAW (despite your disposition towards ProRes). Otherwise, it's not exactly a good comparison. The control of the experiment should be the subject you are filming, the independent variables should be VLOG versus RAW, and the dependent variable should be image quality. It's because of this skewed "comparison" that viewers are questioning the test's credibility. Again, this is irrespective of your own personal tastes and preferences (i.e. ProRes). Anyway, those are my two cents about why it seems many have a bone to pick with this video. Hope it helps. Have an A1 day!

[@tklee9556]

@@migueldelgadillo9673 I am agree you with! I think 99% of people who like bmpcc 4k is the RAW, and that is what blackmagic famous for, give you super low price but with awesome image quality, the Prores is more like a second option for the BMPCC4k.

[@Flamamacue]

I find the BMPCC4K colours and tones far more pleasing. I do find it extremely unforgiving and best suited to controlled environments, especially in ProRes. However in RAW, while it's more work later (for small/unimportant projects I even just do a basic re-encode to a smaller format), it really isn't that much harder to work with once you have a decent workflow down as generally you can copy the RAW grades to other clips as the correction before coloring and I find it to be far more forgiving. The only facet I consider the GH5 to be superior is the quick turnaround and more manageable files/sizes. I shoot with both on a team and without the budget for 10's of hard drives a month I can't keep raw files, so the extra step of re-encoding for archive for me as opposed to just archiving the off camera GH5 filesas is can be a slight hindrance at times.

[@ArberBaqaj]

They are good but so are the Kinefinity files. They are very nice. Raw workflow as of right now is harder for me because I’m a better fcpx user then Davinci and that slows me down a lot. The file sizes also are huge. Both those cameras are great and the gh5 is still the camera I use the most, thanx for a great comment!

[@AmanSahu865]

Hey !!! Can you tell which metabone speedbooster adapter i should buy for gh5s with sigma 18-35 mm and other canon ef lenses??? I have really no idea that 0.64x one will or not give vignetting. So please help me with this. I would really appreciate if you can help.

[@dicklarsen6001]

Great video, cool t-shirt "Impala Malmö"

[@ArberBaqaj]

You have to represent!

[@tythebelieveguy4228]

Great video, very unbiased comparison... Thank you very much

[@ArberBaqaj]

I try as I really like them both but honesty is important

[@MikeyMinimo]

The reason why I came here was b/c I wanted to the comparison between cameras at their full potential. You should have compared it w/ the BMPCC’s RAW footage.

[@OclooBattles]

when buying the BMPCC what is a good zoom lens to get? wanna start small and build up to multiple cine lenses

[@ArberBaqaj]

I really like the Panasonic Leica 12-60, but also the sigma 18-35 with the viltrox

[@JamesJacksonFilmz]

Try the Olympus 12-100mm Lens has IS, fully weather sealed.

[@pgtips4240]

Thanks v much, this has really helped me.🙂

[@ArberBaqaj]

it was my pleasure =)

[@INSTINCT777]

Too bad the gh5 has the moire in crop. What's your experience with the pocket 4k? Is moire severe there too, or is it minimal in crop? Thanks :)

[@wallemmedia]

I'm so stuck between choosing between the two. I have read for 2 weeks now about both cameras and still trying to determine which would be best. For KZbin and interviews it's best to have an autofocus when you're a one man team, right? But as photographer I also love to grade colors, so RAW is also very appealing. It's a hard duel for me!

[@lovefirst6157]

Even for youtube video, panasonic continues autofocus is pretty bad so I would not count of it. It is good at getting focus but not continuing getting focus as you talk or even move.

[@mervyn2316]

Even as a one band for shooting video you don't always need autofocus. I have the GH5, but recently I've been switching to manual focus for interviews, I just make sure I'm in focus and then hit record. If you're a photographer, go the GH5 as the other camera is not for photos

[@SteveMayedaTV]

Great video man! Do you prefer the GH5s over your GH5? I have a G9 Love it, love the stabilization, but everyone always talks about the GH5 s

[@ArberBaqaj]

The IBIS is a must so IF I has to choose and have one camera it would be the gh5 or actually the g9 that you have. I hope the Gh6 is more like the g9 when it comes to the body of the camera. Cheers!

[@SteveMayedaTV]

Thanks man! Keep the videos coming. Great stuff on the cameras I love

[@ArberBaqaj]

Thanx Steve! They will be coming!

[@aholder4471]

Plus the Gh5S has less pixels than the Gh5, only slightly, on the same size sensor. Still enough pixels for 4k, but not a bunch more like you would want for photography specifically. Less pixels on the same size sensor means that each pixel is bigger and gather more light which is better for low light and video in general. This is called the pixel pitch and the pixel density. You can find websites comparing different sensors against each other and their respective pixel pitch.

[@imaginationdevice]

i like the bm but it need better battery life a lcd that i can actually move and better colors (shifts to brownish..). also the files are huge ... does it even have h264/log ?>

[@TylerEdwards]

I find white balance on the P4K is off too. Quite frustrating.

[@ArberBaqaj]

Yes, it’s not good, but once you know you just adjust in camera and your fine, it’s strange nobody has mentioned this earlier...

[@MIBIncomeEncourager]

Arber thanks for taking the time to compare these two......i have my heart on both ....a close friend shoots on the black magic for tv ads on the 6k model and is loving it.....its not the easiest buying decision between the two....yet i think for me i have to be able to mount the gh5s on a gimble and i know th eblack magic takes so much more add ons and weight in full set up ...with monitor and peripheries.....i kinda feel the gh5s gives great rich image quality....i make films in the desert sometimes on camels so need zhiyun cranes etc.....i cant help feeling that the blackmagic with heavy lenses will be too much on a gimble for run and gun.....i think for me the little things such as the panasonics slow mo and allowance for importing luts into your own gh5s is lovely....and anamorphic for example.....still it has not been the easiest buying decision between the two....im sp pleased to find your review....your slow mo gh5s shots on here are really rich in colour tone.....super lovely shots....keep up this great work and thanks for the review......really appreciate you doing it.....

[@xeximaxi]

Do you still using these cameras or any of them ?

[@hoodaffairstv]

It looked like the colors kept shifting in low light on the Panasonic while the Blackmagic remained the same

[@ArberBaqaj]

Both of them have a slight color shift when going up in iso but I think it was more a change of exposure from my side 😫

[@davidpm41]

Arber did you use autowb on the gh5s as the bmpc4k? That would answer why the dramatic shift in colors even though it would also tell that the gh5s is not consistend in this regard. I was shock i thought the gh5s would be as good as the bmpc4k but on 12800 iso the image is not usable. Keep it up man i know how much time went in doing this comparison.

[@felipevece]

The Atomos can get Prores Raw With the GH5s?

[@ArberBaqaj]

Yes! The files are much better

[@ononearts]

ISO 6400 on the GH5S was remarkably clean, and that's the ISO where the BMPCC4K started to fall apart. Thanks for the test. Very interesting. Well done! Others have noticed the white balance accuracy problems with BMPCC, too.

[@AlexandreG]

That's artificial. I've seen BMPCC4K users using denoise on their RAW footage and it comes out impressively clean even at 25600. The GH5 is more of a point and shoot, not that much flexibility in post. If you want to get incredible video out of one of these cameras, believe me it won't be the Panasonic

[@ononearts]

@@AlexandreG I do love the image quality of the BMPCC4K, but the camera has other practical drawbacks, and Black Magic have a notoriously bad reputation for quality control and reliability. For a budget shooter who can’t go to the company closet for another camera, reliability is even MORE important- we can’t sit as opportunities and reputation fly by faulty equipment and poor customer service. For RAW video, I would - will - pass all BM cameras by, and go for a Panasonic SH1: choice of RAW format including BRAW, and Panasonic cameras are built for reliability in extreme environments. I think there’s not much debate over the quality and color science of the SH1.

[@davidbhulapatna3892]

Here my personal experience on a videoproject. I can confirm that ProRes Slowmo looks like shit. Not only is it too soft, it is also noisey. Additionally we shot 250 Gig and had to use 8 batteries, when filming reactions for an event that lasted 4 hrs. I was glad to see that that this was the first review I found to mention that. I'd love to even see a comparison with an old Sony Alpha Mark II - ProRes vs. AVC-HD in 120. If you are used to Raw workflows, you will not care about planning a shot, batteries, terrabytes of Data and hours of color grading or denoising. Don't expect to get movie quality for free.Just be aware what price you pay as a trade off, not moneywise but in usability and functionality. I am looking forward to all the shortfilms coming soon. The comment section shows that there is a lot of folks interested in doing so. Cheers,

[@ArberBaqaj]

Thanx for a great comment David! Have a great weekend!

[@BarryMaskell]

Great - thanks for sharing this

[@ArberBaqaj]

Thank you for your comment.

[@thebossnocompetition8757]

Cyberphoto har GH5s för 12K just nu bara att slå till ;) vilket objektiv som matchar 50mm fullframe rekommenderar du till GH5Sen? Det ska vara ett hyffast ljusstarkt fast objektiv helst.

[@ArberBaqaj]

Tjena! Sjukt bra pris på den kameran ju! Panasonic har en 25mm f1.4 som skall vara bra =)

[@EMBEVIDEO]

I use GH5 ( Not s ) and the BMPCC 4K. Hard to compare and I really like both a lot. GH5 is easier to use. But when I look at what the Blackmagic can achieve with its raw fottage, I‘m totally stunned:) Thanks for your comparison!

[@ArberBaqaj]

You are right. Shooting in raw gives you so much. I do get criticized because I seldom shoot raw but I know the benefits, but it slows my project so much that I feel that it seldom isn’t worth it, thanx for the comment!

[@EMBEVIDEO]

Arber Baqaj I grade in DaVinci, export to Prores and edit in Finalcut- and buy lots of diskspace;) It‘s not that much additional time. And BlackmagicRaw is just around the corner

[@RockWILK]

Moire in the gh5s? I'm shocked because it has an OLPF in it like the s1h. I was about to buy this camera for a project because I need that filter, and I also needed a camera that shoots straight 24 fps, and not 23.976. This has me hesitating now.

[@CurtisGabrielMusic]

I like how the pocket 4k grain looks a little more like film grain. its more easy on the eyes

[@mpbootcamp7009]

The pocket 4k looks nothing like film. I keep hearing this but you should watch videos on youtube of actual Kodak film (16mm to be similar to frame size of M43)

[@michaelhahn4646]

I switched from the GH5s to the Blackmagic Pocket 4k. At the GH5s, I love the battery life and quality of the case. At the Blackmagic I love 3 inches and the picture quality.

[@ArberBaqaj]

I can just agree 👌

[@tklee9556]

@Sainaa & Photography I tried the BMPCC4k, the picture quality in raw is really nice, this video doesn't show the dynamic range of the bmpcc4k in raw format, I shot it in a bright daylight, and back lighting situation, I still can keep the highlight of the sky and the model's face, also this video doesn't show how easy of the work flow in davinci resolve, and the flexible of raw, it's like you doing photography in jpeg vs raw, it's day and night!

[@slipstream4572]

one thing you can be confident on, BlackMagic will keep releasing firmware... If somehow the existing hardware could do more, they will release it for free. Look at their 2M\E switchers that now have twice as many Mix Effects with a 4M\E firmware update

[@ArberBaqaj]

Yes it’s the same thing with the URSA mini pro, some time a ago they increased the iso with a firmware update 👏🏻

[@ExploringWorldYouTube]

Very interesting video. Thank you I am not an expert because I just like to shoot. I'd like to ask a questio please, hoping someone experienced will answer me. 1) I only make documentaries in remote areas, around the world. 2) I travel alone. 3) I like to film in 4K 50p 10bit. 4) I would like to get the same or slightly better video quality than the GH5. 5) I would like a room that is easy to use. Which room do you think is the best for me? I could also accept a small camcorder, but only if it has excellent image quality. I thought of Blackmagic because it was small but then I realized that maybe it's not for me. Thank you very much for the advice.

[@Holtenstein]

These are my main cameras. I got the Pocket 4k for its RAW capabilities and pricing. Blackmagic have stated that this was their own sensor design. If they were the same sensor wouldn't they share native ISOs? I don't think either of these cameras excels at photography. When you're shooting RAW the color science is much less important. The amount of colors and information is much more important. Please do more comparisons between these two. Maybe covering the FOV, 10-bit Prores with Atomos, and using the built-in timecode?

[@ArberBaqaj]

You are very right! I’m working on a prores video on the gh5s as we speak to see if there is a benefit to using the ninja! Have a great day

[@SeanvanBerlo]

Blackmagic DEFINITELY doesn't design their own sensors. All their sensors are off the shelf (and so are Panasonics for what it's worth: designing sensors is expensive!). Native iso isn't an inherent property of the sensor, it's the exposure curve that the manufacturer deems to have the best compromise between noise and dynamic range over and under middle grey. It's a manufacturer's recommendation, nothing else.

[@Holtenstein]

@@SeanvanBerlo Well they stated on camera multiple times that the sensor is their design and not the GH5s sensor.

[@TerenceKearns]

All cameras sharpen the image a certain amount before writing the files. I think the more professional cameras by default do much less sharpening and leave that choice for you to make in post.

[@markovezmar5449]

Huh, I hope Panasonic is thankful, but I didn't felt this was right comparison. On 06:01 you star comparison between those two cameras, BMCC 4K was not in focus, and you sharpnes was not setup. So hmmm why mate? I have one simple question. Which one have better image quality on 4K60fps for filming purpose?

[@ThoriumHeavyIndustries]

I came for exactly one info: which cam has less noise and sustains more detail at 3200 iso. I am doing concerts and live performance. Yet, exactly that part of the clip BMPCC ISO-3200 is out of focus.... that´s bitter. I normally record with Canon 5D MK III and Canon 5D MK IV and since last year with the Sony A7 R II but all of this FF-Sensors in combination with fast lens have a problem DoF is very shallow and need constant operation. While the AF in the 5D MK IV is simply brilliant, the 5D MK III AF has it´s limites when live recording and the AF of the A7 RII is simply terribly.

[@ArberBaqaj]

You are very right, shallow depth of field is not always what you might want.

[@EugeneMaynard]

Thanks for the comparison Arber! You have basically confirmed my belief that both cameras obviously produce a lovely image when a skilled cameraman uses either tool! I would guess that there would be more variation in image quality in regards to quality of the lenses used, meaning that if one already owned the GH5s and felt like upgrading to squeeze out that little extra subjective image quality, it would probably be just as viable buying the next level of lenses rather than buying the BMP4K. I feel that these cameras are in the same league so the differentiating factors will be how you light, how you lens each camera and finally how good your grading skills with your chosen software are. Also, as Atomos have shown that Apple ProRes Raw can work over HDMI 2 with the Nikon Z6, I would be surprised if they did not team up with Panasonic this year to give us that upgrade to the GH5 and GH5s, then the difference in image quality would be even smaller!🙏🏾

[@ArberBaqaj]

You are very right and I like how you think! Agree totally. Prores raw on the gh5, now that would be an upgrade!

[@sthubbins4038]

Another good video. As I consider buying one of these cams, the sharpness of the GH5s is actually a big downside, for one very important reason... you can't turn OFF the sharpening effect the camera is applying. You can turn DOWN sharpening, but CANNOT turn it OFF. The BMPCC4K does not apply sharpening in-camera (unless you want it to). That gives you a more flexible file. I DO love sharp 4K video... but it looks like video, especially on skin. For cinematic applications, I would NOT want sharpening, and unfortunately that's just not an option on the GH5s. But it does have so many other things going for it...

[@ArberBaqaj]

Yes you are right, you can dial it down but remove it, which ever camera you choose you will be happy with them, they are both great!

[@aarondawkins1472]

You can add a Tiffen 1/4 Black Pro Mist filter to add texture to the image.

[@level6visuals363]

Use a soft filter. The gh5s image can be matched to the bmcc

[@level6visuals363]

Same sensor

[@PresentTrendProduction]

Can we take photos on bmpc

[@ArberBaqaj]

It actually has a photo button

[@agape3936]

It actually has a screenshot button lol

[@PresentTrendProduction]

@@agape3936 screenshot 😂😂😂

[@ArberBaqaj]

More like that! True! Ha ha

[@bencorwin]

The GH5 is so freaking sharp. Is that even with the sharpness turned all the way down?

[@ArberBaqaj]

Not the whole way but I have turned it down halfway

[@freejay3]

Good review and agree for the most part, but when Braw comes out its a new ballgame

[@ArberBaqaj]

I totally agree! Really looking forward to that! Hope I can use it in FCPX though.

[@keouam9488]

YES... I have the URSA Mini Pro 4.6k and BRAW is amazing, it's almost unreal. Now awaiting the release for BMPCC 4K. My 1TB SSD will shoot up to over 350 min

[@BlackWarriorLures]

Yeah, I've gone back and forth on these. For me I'd rather get the GH5S since I already have the GH4. It's rather stick with the Panny because I don't like learning a new camera.

[@ArberBaqaj]

We all have different reason to what we choose and yours is defiantly valid. You will be very happy with your choice!

[@legendp2011]

the real difference with RAW video will be in post when you have to change white balance (shooting under mixed lighting)............if you need raw, buy blackmagic..........if not (shooting 10bit) get the gh5/gh5s (or wait forever like me for the mythical unicorn that is the sony a7siii)...........Blackmagic Raw video is also now supported in avid, premier pro and davinci of-course........so the only reason not to shoot braw is if you edit in final cut

[@Loftikaz]

I don't blame you because you want to keep majority of subscribers happy who are gh5 owners. Feeding them with what they like to hear

[@ArberBaqaj]

I actually think its the other way around, most of my viewers have come since I started to shoot with the Pocket 4k.

[@A1Bokeh]

In terms of image the only advantage the gh5s has is it has less of a crop

[@jamesmathews243]

Never limit a camera to make another camera compete with it. It completely negates your results.

[@ArberBaqaj]

Hi James, i didn’t intend to cripple it. I wanted to showcase my usage settings because raw is to much of hassle for me. I like prores and it’s more then sufficient for what I do

[@TheRealJPhillips]

Dynamic range always means EVERYTHING. gotta make those exposure adjustments in that gh5. Always neccessary

[@ArberBaqaj]

Nothing is always everything :)

[@JodyBruchon]

Dynamic range doesn't matter at all unless you have a high-contrast scene. In other words, it only matters when it's a problem. More dynamic range isn't always useful, especially if it comes at an expense. Shooting log/flat profiles with 8-bit output files is a great way to ruin your colors in your midtones, for example, but if that 1/2 stop of DR is all that matters even if the colors get wrecked...go for it.

[@mpbootcamp7009]

@@JodyBruchon Agreed. DR is overrated in a vaccum. In fact, most high DR footage is not very pleasing.

[@denizylmaz9439]

at 8:43 gh5s colors becomes a CNN overseas reporter live feed....

[@lawrencepoon7467]

To me it is the matter of the budget. A new GH5S body is the price of a new BM pocket 4K body + a new Lumix G85 body. I rather buy a new BM pocket 4K body use my existing m4/3 lenses and buy a used Lumix g9 for photo.

[@baddogentertainment6960]

In my opinion, if you want cinema/film like footage you don't really want an overly sharp image anyway. The best results I've seen with the bmpcc4k were from people using softer vintage glass. If you want a really highly sharp/clear image for a documentary (similar to discovery channel/david Attenborough type stuff) that's when you should start to care about sharpness.

[@a.i.o.productionz3538]

the color inside the GH5s is going nuts whenever you inscrease the iso.....on the contrary the Black magic seems to maintain its look... $2300 vs $1300 im sold ill buy a screen hell its still which totals to $1500

[@ArberBaqaj]

Yes you are not wrong!

[@TheFilmmakingChannel]

dee dub You are forgetting media to record to and battery life. It’ll be much more than 1500$.

[@a.i.o.productionz3538]

@@TheFilmmakingChannel i took that into account...pocket 4k battery life sucks honestly i hope there is a pocket 4k mk2 coming lol

[@Flamamacue]

Regarding battery, $20 12V NP-F battery plate + 2 x 7900mAh NP-F (7.2V is important!) batteries (~$40) and I have enough to go all day. Small enough to mount on top or on a cage, or onto my gimbal. 500GB SSD + reader can be had for around $120, so add around $200 for 500GB of storage and all day battery. Considering SD cards fast enough for high bitrates on GH5/S would get up that high for a 256GB with no extra battery, I'm happy. Is it as portable and "easy" as the GH5/S? No. Are the files insurmountably more flexible with nicer skin tones and colours? Yes. I do like the GH5 and by itself of course it's the more complete solution, but it's BMPCC4K all day for me.

[@RB-dl8gr]

The Filmmaking Channel it’ll still be cheaper than the GH5s overall

[@qvisionmedia7195]

Wait did he say it’s something wrong with the white balance in the black magic....... lol some of these reviewers Are just ridiculous

[@ArberBaqaj]

There is actually a slight shift by ca 500 kelvin when you use it compared to other cameras. At least my ex is. It might just be mine but I’ve seen others commenting the same thing. Hope I’m wrong:)

[@level6visuals363]

They use the same sensor

[@TheRealZodWorld]

60p in GH5s 4:2:0 - SD cards you need ninja at. to record 4:2:2 -- BMPCC4K can used carry case and cheap ssd (2gen cable) and record in raw -.

[@eliteextremophile8895]

What did I just watch? How's it fair to compare photographic features but not different codecs on video? Other one is still camera and the other is video camera. It's like comparing a van to hatchback and say "hatchback is better because it has 5 seats. It's unfair to compare the amount of stuff I can fit in the compartment because other one is a van." There's nothing subjective to what comes to video quality. 12bit RAW vs 10bit ALL-I the difference is night and day.

[@eliteextremophile8895]

There's one clear and simple difference in these cameras. Other one is good all-around camera and the other one is a cinema camera. If you have the money for ARRI and you're going to vlog and photograph, maybe take your money to Leica or Hasselblad.

[@adokapo]

Nije loše Arbere tebra 😉

[@RotogripRocks]

Panasonic lets you borrow the camera, of course you're not going to give it an unfavourable review. Do not sway the public with these biased type of reviews.

[@ArberBaqaj]

I didn’t actually pay for the BMD either so your argument falls there, the most important thing for me is to say what I see so I can stand up for what I believe no matter what anybody thinks. Honesty will always win in the long run. On the other hand I will be wrong at times and then I will fix that. I really do my best to not be bias. In this case I do love both cameras and have recommended them to a lot of people. Cheers for the comment

[@TheFilmmakingChannel]

Albatross And do you think the GH5S deserves a bad review? Is that it?

[@RotogripRocks]

Mr. Director no i do not, but saying things like the image is way sharper on the gh5s is a but inaccurate.

[@DavidKfilmmaker]

I’ve seen tests first hand. The red shift of the bmpcc makes the whole thing very difficult to fix for 90% of the users. While it’s easy to fix that it ruins the other colors.

[@ArberBaqaj]

Yes it’s true, it seems that the good skin tones come at a cost of the other colors.

[@ElPatoSabroso]

I like better Black Magic!! GH5s can´t compare its image.

[@ArberBaqaj]

The Image of the Pocket is 👍

[@stopkadr05]

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[@mochouinard]

Huge color shift at high ISO for GH5s... If feel a bit like night mode with IR light... Maybe the IR filter is much reduiced on the GH5s and you might have IR pollution in your light causing this color shift...

[@ArberBaqaj]

Yes I’m not sure, there is also a slight change in exposure but was on auto wb, it should not have that much, I’m going to look into it... thanx for the comment

[@KikujiroChan]

"GH5s... I really have come to know the camera"......1 minute later...." the GH5 can shoot 12MP pictures".....no the GH5s shoots pictures with 10,2MP.

[@ArberBaqaj]

You are on point! I mixed it up! Cheers for putting that straight!

[@GarethStack]

I'm not sure this is a meaningful comparison at all. Given that the BMPCC4K costs about the same as a used GH5, while the GH5s is close to double the price. It's like comparing an A7iii to an Ursa mini pro. Have you come across any issues with the red channel on the camera? I've heard reports it's much too hot with the current colour science and blows out irrecoverably on things like rear headlamps.

[@YarHarFD]

“Raw is such a pain in post” uhhh what? This comparison is wack.

[@ArberBaqaj]

Well for me it is quite a difference, just the size of raw is huge with cdng, and if you look at compressed raw you have to go with resolve, and for that’s a big deal, or then transcoding afterwords, and my computer doesn’t play it good either, with prores I can start directly and edit everything smoothly:)

[@cmdr.shepard]

File sizes are supposed to be large. There is no way around getting good quality. Simply, the smaller the file size, the lower the quality. Cinema DNG is not even uncompressed whereas Arri gives you uncompressed RAW.

[@joeypan5561]

no wonder this much of dislike count....

[@ArberBaqaj]

yes =)

[@PanDownTiltLeft]

Comparing a still camera with a cinema camera makes absolutely no sense.

[@eliteextremophile8895]

It's another thing to compare them but this has nothing to do with comparison. This is just long video of him explaining why still camera is more suitable for him and that he doesn't care about the features of cinema camera.

[@noahlebel-turcotte4662]

Bruh

[@ArberBaqaj]

Bru :)

[@ellarpc]

Wow you really make both cameras look bad

[@ArberBaqaj]

Hi Ronnie, I truly believe there is no perfect camera and all cameras have issues, it’s just important to know what they are and then work there, cheers for the comment!

[@ellarpc]

Arber Baqaj I have a GH5s and use it daily. When I got to your skin tones part and you had the highlights blown out on both cameras, in a studio environment, I had to quit watching. I'm not sure what you're going for. Are you just applying a lut and not making any other adjustments?

[@ArberBaqaj]

Yes I’m wondering if it was the you tube compression who did that because it’s not supposed to be blown, strange, I’m gonna look into it, thank you for the comment 🙏

[@agent.no9932]

sooooo.. i think i will choose Zcam E2......XD

[@markovezmar5449]

With E2 you need to buy LCD, with decent LCD, for the same price you can buy two BMCC 4K, so my question is is the E2 two times better camera?

[@darrylsmith3102]

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[@ko.kurt2024]

Let's get paid by Panasonic and buy Panasonic. :D Couldn't be more biased review. :/

[@misasis]

Please stop making these sort of videos. It's just laziness. Two different cameras for different purposes.

[@ArberBaqaj]

Hi my friend, I probably won’t , I make these videos based on what I my self wonder and want to learn, I believe that if I wonder a certain thing there will be at least one person more who could benefit from my video. Have a great day

[@TheFilmmakingChannel]

misasis How are these 2 cameras for different purposes? Please explain.

[@TonyM-yl4pg]

Panasonic cut this guy a check, or he hates blackmagic... The pocket is a better camera bro face it...

[@ArberBaqaj]

I wish they did =) I really like both cameras I have to say. Both have pros and cons to be honest. The image from the Gh5 is sharper but that is not the whole story when it comes to a image. You have more color information in the Pocket.

[@xXxAmadeuzxXx]

This guy is trying so hard not hurt panasonics feelings. 😭😭😂😂😂 dude be real.

[@ArberBaqaj]

I dont like to hur anyones feelings =)

[@CorvusWolf]

turn down the volume of music... its annoying 👎👎👎👎👎

[@mattnev8625]

i wish the bmpcc4k didnt look like a dslr....wouldnt get you tubers thinking its something its not, who has a cinema camera in a comparison and mentions photos lol

[@lukerob5412]

.... this is wack !

[@JoePlomo]

This is absolutely Not the best comparison of the two cameras. Please do your homework (at least on how to obtain proper exposure) before you film the video. The dynamic range of the two cameras are very comparable & they both shoot with same codecs & settings. Even if you didn't want to use RAW, you could have done an apples to apples but you blew the exposure of the better camera EVERY TIME

[@w.w.7148]

AGAIN: Shoot in RAW and you won't have any White Balance or other "issues" you are complaining all the time. Stop using ProRes in every comparison footage.

[@ArberBaqaj]

I shoot in what ever I choose to shoot in. That is my choice. I love ProRes as Ive stated and just because you shoot raw that doesn't fix everything. As I said in the video, for some things raw is better in every way. But for my workflow I prefer shooting in ProRes. This might change when Braw is available.

[@PyrateGraphics]

you have that choice, but you are ignoring that you did not use the Black Magic the way it was meant to be used. Not meant to be a hybrid photo / vlog camera. And even that is OK but your presenting it as a fair comparison and its not. Shoot on the GH5 like you would the BM and you will find the GH5 falls short trying to be the BM

[@JamesJacksonFilmz]

@@ArberBaqaj Shoot in whatever format you want. The comment is just silly.