What’s Inside My Original M-40 Swedish Mess Kit? Also works With The Pathfinder m-40 from S R O.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

have a great weekend

[@keithmoore5306]

Blackie a little vinegar will take that oxidation off the trangia! wally world has those hob's too about 5 bucks a pop when i got them a couple years back!

[@JamesP523]

hehe, the hot beverage cup in your kit reminds me of the very first time i used a tin cup for coffee while camping, i burned my hand and my lips before dropping the cup into the fire :-)

[@andreashansson1974]

never thought about having a canteen cup inside as an extra cook vessel, nice tip!

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Glad you liked it!!

[@brittburton3264]

Every time I watch one of your videos I wish I could find a scout master hat like yours.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

lol thanks

[@hiramhaji7813]

I’ve found two on the FB market place in the past year. Both were new

[@ollvebranch]

Hi from the UK🇬🇧 and Blackie you made my day with that wonderful, “cowboy,” accent with whistling lisp to boot. Fab’!😄

[@amyfraser5316]

Blackie my husband a former cold weather soldier bought a Swedish mess kit and a svea with a mini pump For every family member we primarily use the Swedish mess kit but at high altitude real cold or snow survival it’s white gas and the svea keep up the good work

[@smoothvern165]

A LOT of good thought went into that system! Excellent info! And thanks for the tip about putting a little fuel into that recessed ring around the outside of the jets to help preheat it. I’ll be trying that!

[@The.Omnipotent.1]

4:59 It’s not just to hang off a horizontal branch over a fire, you can hook it into the latch on the front and in that way, pour liquid out without the mess tin swinging all over the place. Also you can put it in the latch after you’ve closed the clasp bit that’s on the lid, which prevents it opening and also keeps it firmly held in the wind guard, so DON’T take the hook off, it’s very, very handy!😩🤷‍♂️

[@stefanocappella9612]

My canteen cup is for my dogs water dish when im out 🇨🇦

[@JoeDixon-h9c]

Making use of every little fraction of space. I like it.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thats how i roll lol

[@JoeDixon-h9c]

@@BLACKIETHOMAS Me too.

[@markflick1641]

I have an m40 on the way . Great video .👍

[@outbackowl3040]

Hi Blackie, greeting from Australia 🇦🇺, thank you for your time to make these videos, muchly appreciated thank you.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Glad you like them!

[@danpost4755]

Great video, Blackie. I liked the mods and the tip on lighting the outside of the alcohol stove.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

glad to help

[@margaretadler6162]

I keep a small syringe in the kit to add the fuel around the burner to help it bloom faster.it works very well. Thanks Blackie for sharing your wealth of knowledge with the rest of us. ATB Sam Adler from Vietnam

[@oldminer5387]

Excellent video Blackie. Now to find a butterfly handled canteen cup.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

you can try kaufmans military surplus in samson al. 334 898 1770 tell them i sent ya and they will hand select for ya they closed today but open 10 to 4 pm mon -fri

[@TheAngryDracolope]

9:00 To borrow a line from an earlier video Blackie. "Missed me!!!"

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

lol

[@itroy3039]

Great content Some very handy tips For the eating utensils I reckon you should try the Germany army utensils 👍

[@Wheeling88]

Ive owned a trangia for yrs& never knew the ring around the burner trick..Thank Ya, Blackie 👍👍👍👍👍 great info sir

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

No problem 👍

[@RiverBankViking]

(about "powder creamer" in your M-40) I recommented this video of yours to a british youtuber who needs milk in his tea on a trail. He experimented with a flask containing fresh milk. No option in my opinion, but this product "powder creamer" probably gives him a handy and more practical alternative in the outdoors. Hope he can find it here in europe as well. I personally drink my coffee black. As always thumb up to your video, River Bank Viking

[@The.Omnipotent.1]

7:40 Yep, as I said before, if you stick it in a fire it will go copper coloured and eventually, you can bend it almost as if it was foil!😩🤷‍♂️🧐

[@Idrivthetrain]

Helo in the background is a really nice touch. Keeps it authentic. 😂😂😂

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

lol i am close to the army air base

[@dcmsr5141]

Never disappointed with your vids, keep up the good work!!

[@custombuilder1]

Great video....btw, I went over to Waypoint Survival...James is a great young man!

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

yes he is

[@MadDogSurvival]

Pot black stove paint works well over here in the UK !

[@jeffrichards5106]

I gave up trying to find an original Swedish M-40 and got a SRO. Thanks for the video and tips. I like the canteen cup in the main pot. Great idea!👍👍

[@hiramhaji7813]

They are out there but they are expensive. I waited and got the SRO

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

the SRO is a great choice

[@hiramhaji7813]

The best kit thus far

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thanks

[@scottcatchot1598]

just ordered one of the SRO m40.. looking forward. been watching your differnet videos to figure out how to best set it up. Loving your stuff sir.

[@nisse68]

Great video, tips&tricks. We lived w those during my military service in the late 80's in Sweden. One of the guy's learned the hard way not to let ones foxhole buddy refill the burner while it's hot, it turns into a rocket engine and shoots a jet of fire up to a meter (3 feet). He got hit straight on his ear and wore a bandage around his head for a week.

[@timpearce4255]

Well thought out and instructed! The addition of the butterfly handled USGI canteen cup along with the modifications to the windscreen/stove are excellent tips you shared... Thanks!. This is the type of content that keeps me coming back for more. May I dare say it is Doctorate level instruction.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Glad it was helpful!

[@The.Omnipotent.1]

I’ve watched your previous video on the Swedish Army mess kit and I can categorically say, you are no expert. I can tell from the fact the clasp is riveted on that it’s the aluminium M-44, not the M-40, which is the earlier steel rendition.

[@JoeCool-mj1so]

Good stuff brother. Very good

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thanks

[@kenbarrett6466]

Nice set up Blackie .. I’ve got the sro model and have been laying up to remove that annoying hook myself

[@elihaywood3187]

Blackie, I some times use charcoal or wood to heat the main pot, also Heet gas line antifreeze. My PFM40 is all stainless steel, with a lot of use it ain't shiny no more.

[@observationpostcharlie1365]

Great video brother I have a german mess kit that was givin to me when I was in the army and attached to a german army unit in the 80s love it

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

very cool

[@maxpayne0006]

I like the metal fabrication action at the end there Blackie! That stove is tricked out!

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thanks for watching

[@trynsurviven2440]

I bought the SRO version and wondering where this has been all my life. Now I need to get another canteen cup to add to it. Thanks for the tip.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

glad to help

[@jasonjohnson6344]

Amazon sells a Rothco canteen style cup that nests great in the SRO SS set. 👍

[@OutdoorsWithShawn]

I recently got an unused Russian Mess Kit (pretty much the same as the M40) off ebay recently for less than $35. Now all I need to get is the post stand/wind screen as the Russian ones don't come with one. I also have a Swedisg one, which is pretty much the same design. They're pretty proud of the Swedish M40 as far as prices go these days.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i think i have a few of the windscreens

[@Mugwumps107]

Cracking piece of kit, I’ve had three over the years, still got a stainless one the other two friends really liked and I gave them away, I’ll not be letting my last one go 👍🏻 Great set up/kit you’ve put together by the way Blackie 👍🏻

[@Palmetto705]

Blackie thanks much for the m40 tips. I never thought about cutting the reverse side of the stove unit. That tip alone really makes a difference in handling. Ron M

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

You bet

[@thomasoverton7131]

Awesome setup Blackie. Thanks for sharing brother 👍

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

No problem 👍

[@michaelmcelwain2053]

Great job. I have the same kit. I’ll definitely use some of the tricks. I just ordered the pathfinder stainless version to try. Mike from Mississippi

[@tracker5849]

I recently got the pathfinder edition. Thanks for the tips

[@fcernst]

Lot's of good tips here..thanks!

[@phillipfaile3122]

Right out of the box, I did your mod, for the handle on the other side, Blackie. ALSO, what I did with mine, I bored out 4 of the holes, on the same side, and connected 2 holes, on each side, right and left. To use for feeding a fire. Only makes sense. Hope this helps, and gives you some ideas. Have a great day, and safe journeys!!

[@fishngolf2]

Enjoyed it, Blackie! Thanks!

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thanks for watching

[@southernlandsolo7839]

Another good one, thanks Blackie. I have an East German Aluminium Mess Kit. I have still never used it lol. I keep coming back to my good ole canteen cup and an old stainless steel frypan.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Right on i used those for years

[@Backin_Theday]

Wonder if the hinge is non-magnetic stainless, like medical grade non-magnetic stainless?

[@danielhurst8863]

Was literally going to write the same. Parts of that kit are stainless steel, I can tell by the color. And many types of stainless steel are not magnetic.

[@apar1560]

👍👍👍 Great Demo ! Thanks Blackie. ...Alan 🇨🇱

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

it may be

[@barryduckworth5224]

In general the 300 series of stainless is non-magnetic. Often called sanitary stainless. The 400 series of stainless will stick to a magnet, and usually a duller color.

[@Backin_Theday]

@barryduckworth5224 30 years ago, I was on a hospital construction site, and there was a debate going on as to where the non-magnetic stainless electrical outlet plates had to be used and where the magnetic could be used. When you are buying thousands, by the case, the cost added up. O.R. areas and labs had to have them, but the offices and non-sterilized areas didn't have to have them. To me that meant the non-magnetic had better damp environment corrosion resistance. There was a slight color difference between the two. I believe it has to do with the chromium or hexavalent chromium 6 content.

[@billrivenbark8983]

I’ve got an aluminum one also. I don’t store my alcohol in the burner. I pour what’s left back into the bottle. It’s a great bit of kit to have.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

yes it is

[@phillbrotheridge4014]

Hi Blackie. Thank you very much. Just bought a Romanian mess kit with a separate Swedish wind shield and was looking at adapting it. You've given me a few really useful ideas.

[@user-zu9ym2lw3i]

Great info as always.

[@johndalessandro6433]

Great video Blackie! I love how it all packed up

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Me too!

[@bushforme]

I've owned a M 40 for about 30 yrs..I just learned cool tips I didn't know..another reason I love this channel..where can I get spare O rings for stove? Thanks!

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

trangia sells them but if you will measure yours an look on amazon you can find them for sale cheap i think i got 4 for 5 bucks a few yrs ago

[@ruzzellp]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

glad to do it

[@wayneburbage8900]

I enjoyed and was constantly surprised of all the practical , detail your video has to offer

[@olgaguer6443]

Very enjoyable! God bless your heart!

[@ROE1300]

👍 Nice. Thank you for sharing.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Thanks for watching!

[@jasonjohnson6344]

I have an original kit and when SRO came out with theirs in SS I got one of those too. I wanted another cup and found that the Rothco canteen style cup nests nicely inside and I still have room for the alcohol stove, some fuel and miscellaneous stuff. Great kit.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

sounds good

[@thomasmoller6723]

Nice Set up. I have this Messkit in the stainless steel version. I drilled holes in for tentstakes, so i can use the Trangia gasburner.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

That's a great idea!

[@yetidodger6650]

Absolutely loved this. new sub UK.

[@lowrangeoverland9013]

outstanding 👍👍💯🏆🥇💪🇺🇲

[@crabtree8822]

nice video the aluminium version is called the m-44 the stainless is the m- 40

[@ScanianDude]

Seems like you prefer this m40/m44 stove over the trangia 25/27 style stove, would love you to elaborate why and pros/cons. Thank you for your great videos cheers

[@davewest5776]

I've just brought a swedish windscreen with a swiss cookset had to cut the slots in the windscreen to allow them to close up for carrying because their the same but different

[@lesliebarger1860]

Great set-up Blackie, I am in the process of building this very set. What I would like to know is what size folding cup are you using? I have found listings for a 250 ml and a 600ml cup

[@redsorgum]

I have the Soviet mess kit, and I have some stuff in it also.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

very cool

[@The.Omnipotent.1]

16:50 Or, you can just make sure you place it so the wind is hitting it from that side and so the flame won’t shoot out and heat up the handle!🤷‍♂️

[@erkkikarvinen1783]

The originals also have a steel model. The storm shelter is always aluminum. 

[@andrewosborne8993]

I must modify my windshield like you have Blackie. Just about to pick up the issue aluminium pot. I have a Miltec copy at the moment, which is it not bad but lacks the hook and D-rings. I added my own as the ring slots are on the copy. Great set I’m getting a second one for the kids. My favorite for a camp set and might add a usgi or crusader mug instead of the kasa I have in it currently. Thanks for the tips Blackie.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Right on

[@The.Omnipotent.1]

4:30 If you keep using it as a twig stove, the aluminium will go the colour of copper and soften considerably, it ruins them. Don’t be tempted unless you have a good supply of replacements!

[@richardcartwright2199]

thanks great ideas

[@kristofferhellstrom]

A Swede here. Yeah I have one of those but I usually use my Trangia. Last year I bought a smaller version, the mini. Looking forward of using it in a couple of weeks :)

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Right on

[@ireland66613]

Wow great video. I will for sure be using your ideas .Thank you

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thanks for the visit

[@jamesbowen5573]

Brilliant

[@najroe]

some are non magnetic stainless (roughly equivalent to 316). my kit contains a thin (3-4mm) piece of wood that I cut to fit inside my windbreak (just tight enough to prevent rattling), I use that to keep burner of the snow and wet ground.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

good to know

[@HootOwl513]

Ingenious. I have almost all that stuff already. I could put that kit together tomorrow. I do not have the oval Swedish mess tin, though. I have a Swiss, East & West German, Hungarian, Early and Late Italian.mess tins. and a Swedish 'chimney'. I need to resolder the lid on my Swedish Crown Issue Svea spirit burrner so that guy's out, but the small Trangia burner [or clone] I can fit in the Wildo cup. The US GI VN Canteen Cup in SS or French aluminum butterfly cup, also fits US mid '40s metal canteens. [French one has indents in the sides to set a 2 finger wine ration level.] I use the Trangia pot gripper. For a grid over the 2 bales I have a 4.5'' square heat diffusser off a Soviet era Prymus PT-1 Touristnik [Opti 8R clone]. . I can set a US or allied canteen cup on it. I could add a lid for the canteen cup. KFS is covered. The whole works could fit into any European military bread bag.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

sounds like you got all the bases covered

[@jonn3132]

FYI: The steel version is the m/40, the aluminium version like the one you have were referred to as m/44.

[@mikebsbd]

Another great video. Thank you sir.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Very welcome

[@njzeigler4370]

I have been an avid user of my Swedish m40 since I found it at the local surplus store in 1999. Lately I have been thinking of retiring it in favor of the S.R.O stainless version, any thoughts or considerations. I would be using the Svea spirit burner that came with Swedish set, modern ones are smaller and hold much less fuel.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

the sro set it a great set and will serve you well

[@hiramhaji7813]

I’ve had an aluminum one for 5 years and decided to move over to the SRO. The new Alcohol stove is smaller and fits fine

[@Shanecoffeyoutdoors]

Great video, however, I believe the hinges are stainless steel and stainless steel is non-magnetic

[@sakelleys]

What size is the Fold - A - Cup thanks.

[@Captain-Electro]

That's a neat setup. 🔥👍

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

It sure is

[@nekskapeh5386]

I got a question for you Blackie: Will titanium accept that BBQ paint? Cause it sure doesn't seem like it would.

[@Wolfram762]

That's an awesome set up Blackie! You had mentioned that since it's aluminum that it'll melt/warp due to high heat. Is that the same for the stainless version that sro sells? I don't think so but I just want to make sure because I am very interested in purchasing one of the m40 cook sets. Thank you.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

That is correct never put the aluminum one on a hot fire empty.. with water or stew is fine give the heat someplace to go but empty it can melt in high temps the stainless steel sro would be just fine

[@Wolfram762]

@blackoracle69 thanks so much for the reply and the info brother!!! Looks like my next set will be the m40!

[@scrum5atk1]

Hi Blackie,why haven't you got the military burner? There is a simmer ring that fits it, I can't think who make it at the moment

[@BG-rf1mx]

Tatonka make a simmer ring for their own spirit burner that also fits the Trangia military burner

[@scrum5atk1]

@@BG-rf1mx that's the one,I was looking at them the other day

[@williamwoolverton6925]

Where can we get that folding cup Blackie?

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

amazon www.amazon.com/Wildo-10028-Mil-Tec-Fold-a-Cup-600ml/dp/B007AQTLCU/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2EC6VS9SFFZ2M&keywords=fold+a+cup&qid=1700936022&sprefix=fold+a+cup%2Caps%2C93&sr=8-5

[@thomasmusso1147]

👍👍👍 .. nice 😊.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thanks for watching

[@jeremymoses7401]

Lol, i love the magnet proof😂. I dont doubt that your set is aluminum but most of your food grade stainless steels are not ferrous (ie: not magnetic)

[@Vojmir.S]

What kind of mess kit is on the miniature?

[@timlacy2284]

Blackie, Thank You for Sharing on the M-40 Swedish Mess Kit. Great Information Tips and Tricks, Thank You Sir for all you do and sharing your time and knowledge and wisdom and experience. God Bless.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

My pleasure!

[@dalemeyer8207]

S.M.K.W. is a experience 😂

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i hope to go there one day

[@wayneburbage8900]

I like the background sound track of a Huey helicopter and the crack of a gunshot beats that annoying music you hear on most videos.

[@citomp1240]

Do you live near a heleport.

[@rachealstinnett5829]

👍👍

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thanks for watching

[@alfholmquist1052]

If it is the aluminium one then it is the M44 mess kit. M40 is stainless.

[@The.Omnipotent.1]

6:51 Or use the hook….if you hadn’t gone and taken it off!😩🤷‍♂️😂

[@jasonmcclung3579]

Try some yellow heat

[@gwynjames2077]

Some stainless steel is non magnetic and the stoves have been made with a mix of materials or the surplus items have been mixed up to make a serviceable kit. Just nit picking good video as always thank you.

[@michaelschnittker7388]

If it's aluminum pot kit it is an M44 and not an M40 mess kit. The M40's were stainless steel. You are right that everything in the M44 kit is aluminum.

[@questions6746]

Note...That is a Swedish M44. (It is not a swedish M40)........ The Pathfinder PFM40 is actually a copy of the Swedish M44 in stainless.......... The PFM40 is not a copy of the Swedish M40...

[@CherokeeTwilight]

That’s not a M40, yours is a M44. M40 is stainless and the M44 is aluminum.

[@Celticgypsypnw]

Not all stainless is magnetic.

[@bill5128]

Block that front hole with your piece of aluminum foil. Done deal, no need to cut the windscreen.