inverse laplace of s/(s^2+1)^2, using convolution theorem

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@DrLol07
@DrLol07 7 жыл бұрын
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@federicopagano6590
@federicopagano6590 5 жыл бұрын
We shouldn't put + C for many reasons 1°) it's a definite integral 2°) the inverse laplace transform always it's a one to one operator unique result 3°) we could think this problem like the L^-1[L{ -1/2(L {sin (t)} }'s ]= - t .f (t) then f=1/2 (sen (t)/t) ✔
@chinmayabehera8961
@chinmayabehera8961 6 жыл бұрын
cz its a definite integral we don't use c here .....your the best tutor I have ever seen....THANKS
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
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@Guru_Joe_Praise2023
@Guru_Joe_Praise2023 7 ай бұрын
In just a few minutes I have understood Convolution theorem of Laplace Transform well done sir👍
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@johnkarlorcajada3147
@johnkarlorcajada3147 7 жыл бұрын
No +C because it is a definite integral.
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
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@sugarfrosted2005
@sugarfrosted2005 6 жыл бұрын
If you want to be pedantic, it's there, it's just eaten when you substitute the end points in.
@AlgyCuber
@AlgyCuber 6 жыл бұрын
and it’s an inverse laplace not an inverse derivative
@e.s.r5809
@e.s.r5809 2 жыл бұрын
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@nurten5903 Жыл бұрын
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@jobalfred9603 4 жыл бұрын
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@parthokr 2 жыл бұрын
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@new-jj5il
@new-jj5il 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation Without neglecting any small mathematical step... Thanks
@ayamohamed7468
@ayamohamed7468 Жыл бұрын
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@JeffNkwilimba Жыл бұрын
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@bench9118 5 жыл бұрын
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@skwbusaidi
@skwbusaidi 5 жыл бұрын
Good . Also we can also use the fact that laplace of t f(t) = -d/ds ( F(s)) We can take f(t) = 1/2 sint
@utkarshanayak1710
@utkarshanayak1710 3 жыл бұрын
Never heard of Convolution theorem. But you explained so easily 🙏🙏❤️. Thanks #blackpenredpen Btw no +C since it is a definite integral 😎
@Sednas
@Sednas Жыл бұрын
no, you do not need to put down +C, and that was hilarious 😂😂😂. I love your videos they are so useful but also funny sometimes.
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@60_co_ayeshashaikh10 2 жыл бұрын
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@mariogabrielsalvatierrafra4500
@mariogabrielsalvatierrafra4500 7 жыл бұрын
SUCH A GREAT EXAMPLE OF AN INVERSE LAPLACE TRANSFORMATION, I hope you can do examples of diferential ecuaions with the special functions like delta of dirac and others, i mean diferential ecuations where you have to use laplace transformation, keep doing those videos, they are so great
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@ZARA_KEYS 5 ай бұрын
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@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 ай бұрын
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@maneeshkoru2312
@maneeshkoru2312 3 жыл бұрын
You can also use L[t.f(t)]=-dF(s)/ds, complex differentiation theorem.
@algion24
@algion24 3 жыл бұрын
An easier way to evaluate the convolution let I = sin(t)*cos(t) = int 0 to t (sin(t-v)cos(v))dv since convolution is commutative I = int 0 to t (cos(t-v)sin(v))dv add the 2 together 2I = int 0 to t (sin(t-v)cos(v)+cos(t-v)sin(v))dv this becomes an angle sum formula for sin 2I = int 0 to t (sin(t-v+v))dv = int 0 to t (sin(t))dv = vsin(t) from 0 to t = tsin(t) - 0sin(t) = tsin(t) divide both sides by 2 I = tsin(t)/2
@carultch
@carultch Жыл бұрын
An easier way to evaluate it without using convolution. Use the s-derivative property of the Laplace transform, where L{t*f(t)} = -d/ds F(s). Take the s-derivative of sine's Laplace transform: d/ds 1/(s^2 + 1) = -2*s/(s^2 + 1)^2 Therefore: L{t*sin(t)} = 2*s/(s^2 + 1)^2 Multiply both sides by 1/2: 1/2*L{t*sin(t)} = s/(s^2 + 1)^2 Recognize the original transform we're trying to invert in the above. Thus: L-1 {s/(s^2 + 1)^2} = 1/2*t*sin(t)
@FutballFocusTV
@FutballFocusTV 6 жыл бұрын
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@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@FutballFocusTV
@FutballFocusTV 6 жыл бұрын
blackpenredpen . Thank you sir , i got this question as well . Use convolution theorem to find the inverse laplace transform of the following. f(s) = 1/s+p)(s+q) Do you have an email ?
@FutballFocusTV
@FutballFocusTV 6 жыл бұрын
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@xongram3139
@xongram3139 4 жыл бұрын
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@ANANDYADAV-sc1se
@ANANDYADAV-sc1se 2 жыл бұрын
Cool explanation , I like it
@stephanm.tjaden3887
@stephanm.tjaden3887 5 жыл бұрын
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@BK-dx3cp 3 жыл бұрын
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@mrinmoybhaduri9666
@mrinmoybhaduri9666 6 жыл бұрын
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@mariogabrielsalvatierrafra4500
@mariogabrielsalvatierrafra4500 7 жыл бұрын
Such a great video and no we don't need to put +C because the convolution is a definite integral so the C is not necesary
@sunset1394
@sunset1394 6 жыл бұрын
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@jarikosonen4079
@jarikosonen4079 4 жыл бұрын
The plus C could be allowed, but might depend on the initial conditions. The problem is that how to make laplace of sin(x)+2 ? It doesn't work maybe. Then if inverse laplace should give sin(x)+2, how to? This method seems to work, but requires a lot of calculation. Basically signals can be transferred both on time and signal axes. sin(x) becoming sin(x-t0)+C if transferred in both axes. One could use sin(x)+2×u(t), but that wouldn't be same as sin(x)+2, except for t>=0. If Laplace valid for t>=0 only it seems maybe also reason why u(t) should be used instead. But one could add just 2 if the offset of 2 is certain. The calculation without offset is easier maybe and doing things around the 0 instead of 2 is more practical in this math. Like solving x^2 + 3x + 1 = 0 rather than x^2 + 3x + 3 = 2. You could tune the 2nd degree polynomial equation solving to work with right side =2 rather than =0, but it would get more complicated. Can you calculate inverse laplace transform of s^2/(s^2 + w^2) as an example case also?
@robinrotich118
@robinrotich118 4 жыл бұрын
waauh amazing math lesson i have understood everything on convolution
@emmanueljoseph8540
@emmanueljoseph8540 2 ай бұрын
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@jun6003
@jun6003 7 жыл бұрын
thanks! it's very helpful !!
@ernestamoah2612
@ernestamoah2612 Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@carlos199613ful
@carlos199613ful 7 жыл бұрын
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@eseranceese9305
@eseranceese9305 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! This is very helpful!. Can i ask what if the equation is inverse laplace of [ 1/(s²-9)²] is it using convolation to solve it?
@eseranceese9305
@eseranceese9305 3 жыл бұрын
Uhm also what if the s on the top of it squared? Like s²/(s²+1)²?
@carultch
@carultch Жыл бұрын
​@@eseranceese9305 A method I recommend, is to assume it is an arbitrary linear combination of t*sin(3*t), t*cos(3*t), sin(3*t), and cos(3*t). Then take the Laplace transforms of each of component function, using the s-derivative property of Laplace transforms. Set up the linear combination with undetermined coefficients, and use algebra to solve for them. L{cos(3*t)} = s/(s^2 + 9) L{sin(3*t)} = 3/(s^2 + 9) L{t*cos(3*t)} = -d/ds L{cos(3*t)}= (s^2 - 9)/(s^2 + 9)^2 L{t*sin(3*t)} = -d/ds L{sin(3*t)}= 6*s/(s^2 + 9)^2 Let the Laplace transform we're trying to invert, equal the following, and solve for A, B, C, and D: A*s/(s^2 + 9) + 3*B/(s^2 + 9) + C*(s^2 - 9)/(s^2 + 9)^2 + 6*D*s/(s^2 + 9)^2 For 1/(s^2 + 9)^2: 1/(s^2 + 9)^2 = A*s/(s^2 + 9) + 3*B/(s^2 + 9) + C*(s^2 - 9)/(s^2 + 9)^2 + 6*D*s/(s^2 + 9)^2 1 = A*s*(s^2 + 9) + 3*B*(s^2 + 9) + C*(s^2 - 9) + 6*D*s 1 = A*s^3 + 9*A*s + 3*B*s^2 + 27*B + C*s^2 - 9*C + 6*D*s A = 0 3*B + C = 0 27*B - 9*C = 1 D = 0 Solution for B&C: B = 1/54, C=-1/18 Thus: inverse Laplace of 1/(s^2 + 9)^2 = 1/54*sin(3*t) - 1/18*t*cos(3*t)
@thommythomas3123
@thommythomas3123 3 жыл бұрын
good explaination
@queenqueen4662
@queenqueen4662 6 жыл бұрын
Thank u so much sir this video helps me a lot 🙏🙏
@darcash1738
@darcash1738 7 ай бұрын
Just watching this for fun, seems pretty cool. can someone explain the step from sint * cost? why does the argument of sin become "t-v", whereas for cos it becomes simply "v"? and perhaps i should know what is being convoluted in this convolution 😂
@منوعات-ح8ع
@منوعات-ح8ع 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing bro Thanks a lot
@helldogforever
@helldogforever 6 жыл бұрын
Your video helped.
@SuHAibLOL
@SuHAibLOL 7 жыл бұрын
integral transforms are just great
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@holyshit922
@holyshit922 7 жыл бұрын
Complex partial fraction will work We could also use differentiation
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
yup
@daynaladd8894
@daynaladd8894 5 жыл бұрын
Wow amazing! Thank you so much!
@الاستاذأزهرمحمدماجستيرعلومرياض
@الاستاذأزهرمحمدماجستيرعلومرياض 7 ай бұрын
Integrate denominator and take inverse to the result to get F(s) and the result is - d/ds F(s)
@andymorejon2am
@andymorejon2am 6 жыл бұрын
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@solinothman4094
@solinothman4094 5 жыл бұрын
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@teo97judo
@teo97judo 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Steve, my name is Teo and I come all the way from Greece. I was trying to solve an inverse Laplace and googled for help so I stumbled upon this video.The problem is I can't exactly understand how to use this method on my problem. The problem is inverse Laplace of (s+3)/(s^2 + 4)^2 . I tried the partial fraction method as well but it seems that it can't be divided. I'd love to hear back from you with some help because I'm sure it will take you 5 minutes to solve it. Thank you for your time anyway.
@DrQuatsch
@DrQuatsch 5 жыл бұрын
The first thing that comes to mind is separating it. L^-1{s/(s^2 + 4)^2} + 3L^-1{1/(s^2 + 4)^2}. The first part is pretty much the same as in the video, but you only have s^2 + 2^2 in the denominator, so that results in tsin(2t)/4. There's an extra factor of 1/2, because you have to match the 2 on the top for the sine part. For the other fraction you will have to calculate a convolution of two sines: 3(L^-1{1/(s^2 + 4)} * L^-1{1/(s^2 + 4)}) = 3/4(L^-1{2/(s^2 + 2^2)} * L^-1{2/(s^2 + 2^2}) = 3/4(sin(2t) * sin(2t)).
@liyanaminaj2309
@liyanaminaj2309 3 жыл бұрын
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@maayoufamoez2217
@maayoufamoez2217 6 жыл бұрын
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@hungmai7533
@hungmai7533 Жыл бұрын
thank you so much sir
@flickboxextra3127
@flickboxextra3127 Жыл бұрын
Very good
@holyshit922
@holyshit922 2 жыл бұрын
3:14 , integration by parts will work if you expand sin(t-v) to get two integrals
@sushantlakra6715
@sushantlakra6715 6 жыл бұрын
excellent sir ...
@mutalejohn5295
@mutalejohn5295 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@IrfanNasir
@IrfanNasir 6 жыл бұрын
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@hashem4287
@hashem4287 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@Novak2611
@Novak2611 3 жыл бұрын
One can simply use the derivative of Laplace transform of cos: L'(f)=-L(tf) (i am not talking about Laplace of derivative)
@a.s.l711
@a.s.l711 4 ай бұрын
just how does the laplace work from 1/(s+1) becomes e^-t. what is the logic behind the conversion.
@andremiller482
@andremiller482 6 жыл бұрын
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@sydbugnano8431
@sydbugnano8431 3 жыл бұрын
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@Grundini91
@Grundini91 7 жыл бұрын
It's a definite integral, no +c
@diegonavia1404
@diegonavia1404 6 жыл бұрын
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@mr.hridoy245
@mr.hridoy245 6 жыл бұрын
the lovely way to do this math, i like your your way to solve,thank you sir
@demenion3521
@demenion3521 7 жыл бұрын
you should probably add an argument after the laplace transform like L{f(t)}(s). otherwise one has always to remember which variables you use normally. And also: i am used to the convolution over the whole reals. is it actually the same thing as the integral from 0 to t?
@jerryjin5871
@jerryjin5871 5 жыл бұрын
That was amazing!
@richellemaebaguasan3553
@richellemaebaguasan3553 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@manishmodak1726
@manishmodak1726 5 жыл бұрын
Do it for the minus sign too without using the convolution theorem please
@harvindyadav862
@harvindyadav862 4 жыл бұрын
s/(s^2+a^2)^2= (-0.5)*d/ds{1/(s^2+a^2)} Now apply derivative formula.
@himanshu11876
@himanshu11876 6 жыл бұрын
2nd method #dis function is derivative of (S^2+1)^-1,so inverse function would be multipled by t
@anishachoudhury_
@anishachoudhury_ 6 жыл бұрын
Can u just explaim why did he use sin t-v instead of sint in 4th step
@NoobMaster-yw6eo
@NoobMaster-yw6eo 5 жыл бұрын
@@anishachoudhury_ it's just how the convolution is done
@NoobMaster-yw6eo
@NoobMaster-yw6eo 5 жыл бұрын
Hey could u write down how would u use that method on this is function cuz am kinda lost with it
@mojahedhamayel9870
@mojahedhamayel9870 4 жыл бұрын
You can tell me what equal it sin A . cosB = cos B . sin A = sin A . sin B = cos A . cos B =
@helloitsme7553
@helloitsme7553 7 жыл бұрын
no +c, cause any function has a unique La place transform and any La place transform belongs to a unique function
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
yea!
@suzeetasuzee9018
@suzeetasuzee9018 7 жыл бұрын
can u please upload more examples of convolution theorem.......
@adityapahalvan6484
@adityapahalvan6484 5 жыл бұрын
Sir make the video on complex integration,contour
@mammu3635
@mammu3635 Жыл бұрын
Find L inverse [s/(s+4)²] plzz answer for this sir I have exams this month plzz 🙏 sir
@carultch
@carultch Жыл бұрын
Given: s/(s + 4)^2 Add zero in a fancy way, to form a term we can cancel: (s + 4 - 4)/(s + 4)^2 = (s + 4)/(s + 4)^2 - 4/(s + 4)^2 = 1/(s + 4) - 4/(s + 4)^2 The first term inverts as e^(-4*t). The second term requires us to use the s-derivative property to unpack it. In general, L{t*f(t)} = -d/ds L{f(t)}. The expression we have to unpack, is related to the s-derivative of 1/(s + 4), so differentiate this: -d/ds 1/(s + 4) = 1/(s + 4)^2 Thus: L-1{-4/(s+ 4)^2} = -4*t*e^(-4*t) Thus, the solution is: e^(-4*t) - 4*t*e^(-4*t)
@georgeharry7729
@georgeharry7729 6 жыл бұрын
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@oussamaelajjaj6137 5 жыл бұрын
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@manishtechnicalclasses3340 4 жыл бұрын
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@enricoperrotta5676
@enricoperrotta5676 2 жыл бұрын
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@sichen1151 4 жыл бұрын
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@shreetimohapatra4142
@shreetimohapatra4142 Жыл бұрын
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@ChickenJY
@ChickenJY 6 жыл бұрын
Prof, may I request a Fourier Transform/ Inverse FT videos from you ?
@Omegas88
@Omegas88 7 жыл бұрын
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@santiagocas3683
@santiagocas3683 4 жыл бұрын
Broo, I got a big question, how to know, where put, t-v, for expmle, cos(t-v)sin(v), ¿Cómo sabes donde poner (t-v), ?¿ Podría haber sido cos(t-v)sin(v)? Disculpa el inglés, no soy nativo.
@carultch
@carultch Жыл бұрын
It is completely arbitrary which one gets v, and which one gets t-v, since convolution is commutative.
@rahulgautam-ux9qx
@rahulgautam-ux9qx 4 жыл бұрын
inverse laplace transform of 1/(s^2+1)^2 please tell me solution this type of question.
@vasilisa4723
@vasilisa4723 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, have you found the solution? I'm still searching it :)
@carultch
@carultch Жыл бұрын
@@vasilisa4723 You can take s-derivatives of the Laplace of sine and cosine, and use the s-derivative property to find the Laplace transform of t*sin(t) and t*cos(t). Then set up a linear combination of A*cos(t) + B*sin(t) + C*t*cos(t) + D*t*sin(t). Solve for A, B, C, and D.
@ROSBELMARIABCE
@ROSBELMARIABCE 7 жыл бұрын
thanks dude
@ronaldrosete4086
@ronaldrosete4086 4 жыл бұрын
By the way, what's the Laplace of Y(s)/X(s)?
@carultch
@carultch Жыл бұрын
It's called the transfer function. The function that relates the output to the input of a linear time independent dynamic system, assuming X(s) represents the Laplace transform of the input, and Y(s) represents the Laplace transform of the output.
@gaminghub0615
@gaminghub0615 6 ай бұрын
How to do this without using convolution thm
@fadyfahmyful
@fadyfahmyful 7 жыл бұрын
why the integral of the second sin(t) is -cos(t) , I mean you did not use the same rules for both integrals of sin?
@changdagong3305
@changdagong3305 7 жыл бұрын
because we are integrating wrt v, so whatever t is just a constant, the first sin involve v so we must use cos
@angus8147
@angus8147 4 жыл бұрын
@@changdagong3305 you save my final term exam
@LoneWolf-zj8it
@LoneWolf-zj8it 5 жыл бұрын
exam tomorrow, wish me luck :-)
@mohan153doshi
@mohan153doshi 7 жыл бұрын
The best way to do convolution is with bprp - yay!!!!
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