HTVRont Auto Tumbler Heat Press Final

[@cdstark116]

Great video! I have this tumbler press, and the two things that seem to help with the bottom the most are wrapping the bottom really well and burnishing like crazy (I take a cloth and roll it hard on the cloth at an angle to help burnish) and then after pressing the tumbler completely, putting just the last couple of inches of the tumbler back in the press for an additional 10-20 seconds. That little extra time on the end seems to help get a better image on the bottom.

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

Thanks so much for the great info!! I will definitely try that method next time.

[@kimday844]

Personally I think your tumblers turned out great and I like the color going around the bottom edges instead of it being white.

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

Thanks! I do too, just need to work on the strange wrinkly ghosting.

[@kimday844]

Your video is very informative. I have not done sublimation so I have no advice for you but you do take the scariness out of sublimating tumblers.Thank you for doing this tutorial.

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

Thank you so much! That is always one of my goals with any tutorial.

[@susanbisschop4197]

You're a genius. I snipped along the bottom, only way more times than you did. I used your technique with the tape wrapped tightly around the bottom but then I added a thicker tape on top of that tape to fold the tiny snip pieces in place. Then, just to be sure, I taped the bottom and they turned out beautiful. Thanks for the idea! And thanks for sharing..🙂

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

That is fantastic! I am really happy I showed you something that made a difference with your tumblers. Thanks for letting me know. I'll have to try the thicker tape trick now too.

[@Amandalee_at210]

What if we put the tumbler in shrink wrap and then cover it with butcher paper while in the heat press?

[@loretta6010]

Elena, these tumblers look amazing! Well done!

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

Thanks! I was pretty happy overall considering I'm new to it.

[@annekeschep8148]

First time I see the process, hmmm interesting👍 When you use a measuring tape like that, make sure to check it from time to time if it did not stretch; over time these tapes tend to stretch a bit. I know mine did…

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

Good point! I did have to try printing out the design several times (with regular ink and paper) to get the diameter just right. I had to view the fabric measuring tape as more of a starting point than an exact measurement. I'll keep an eye on the stretching - hadn't thought of that. Thanks!!

[@dianegreen1545]

I think your tumblers are great. I agree with you-not liking the missing color around the bottom. I can't wait to set my sublimation printer up and starting my sublimating journey.

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

Thanks! I have to warn you, sublimation is kind of addictive...lol!

[@holyfreeholy2329]

Excited and nervous I get mine Monday I have heat tape sub printer paper and both press and tumblers come Monday ima get butcher paper at Walmart almost I’ve seen people use lots of tape and not need it 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

How fun! I hope you make some amazing tumblers and don't need as much tape as I did - lol.

[@LanceMcGrew]

I flip my tumblers end for end plus the normal rotate 180 couple times. Fixed my issues with this HTVRont press. Early on I noticed the press does not close perfectly square on both ends.

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

This is a fantastic tip! I didn't realize that was the case (not closing perfectly square on both ends) so this should help a lot. Thanks!!

[@Amandalee_at210]

I have bad arthritis, but I bought those clampy things on Amazon and omg it’s worked miracles it’s perfect imo

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

That's good to know. I may try those. Thanks!

[@cooktoy1]

I love those tumblers, you did a great job. I have seen people selling them with a way bigger gap on the seam. Yours are amazing. Sorry no tips on wrapping, as I have not taken the plunge into subbing tumblers.

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

Thanks so much! Good to know mine aren't too bad. 8-)

[@theJenhha99]

I watched a taping video on industrial fringe yt channel and I used that for my first tumbler on my htvront tumbler press and my top and bottom were perfect. My Seam wasn't matched great but there was absolutely no ghosting. It was a very clean seam that did not meet up lol. But top and bottom are perfect on my very first ever tumbler.

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

Thanks so much for sharing this. I will definitely check it out.

[@theJenhha99]

@BlackSheep303Crafts yw. I think I've also learned through watching yt.... that on the htvront that maybe a little higher heat and a tiny bit higher time...I did 390 at 90 and 90 on that tumbler (so far the only one I've done) and like I said it was absolutely perfect other then the seam which was my fault and me just learning how to do things.... not the equipments fault. I am going to try the next one at 390 and 180 seconds with no turn and see what happens.... but I'm nervous... I'm terrified of fires, so putting something into something that hot for too long scares me. But I watched a video and they did it and it was fine, and there were no issues whatsoever

[@theJenhha99]

Oh, I forgot....I also wanted to say that I watched a yt video....I can not for the life of me remember which one because it wasn't like just today, lol.... but the person was having the typical issues people keep complaining of with the htvront, so they reached out to the company about it, and they had recommended a time and temp... which is where I came up with the 390 at 90 and 90.... the company told her 180 seconds continuous press, but I was too scared for my very first tumbler to do that since literally everyone else turns halfway through.... but.... they all have a press that does not close all the way also.... this one literally closes completely. The 180 second press worked great on the channel, and she had no issues that she had previously been having....ghosting and top and bottom edge issues.... it turned out perfect.... so that's where I came up with my time and temp. That, combined with the taping video, is what I contribute to (what I'm going to call successful), first tumbler being a success on a press that everyone else is having issues with. Enough heat, not too much or too little time, and a good tape job....I feel like that is the success with this press, and I'm glad I chose this press. I have autoimmune issues and a lot of pain, especially in my hands with swelling, and it affects my grip and strength sometimes... that's why I chose this press for my first (and hopefully only) press. I was going to get a cheaper one that you had to put more physical work into (like turning halfway through and physically having to adjust the pressure and pull the handle down) but I told my husband about this one and the perks and the disadvantages that others were having issues with and he told me to spend the little extra money (it was on sale and was only like $10 or so higher then the other press, lol) on what would make my life easier. He felt that it being pretty much fully automatic was a huge plus for me and worth the little extra money..... and I agree 100% with him, lol

[@beebeej1]

​@@BlackSheep303CraftsI've tried to get the wrap twice not coming to my email or spam is it still available?

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

@@beebeej1 Are you not getting the Resource Library password in your email or something else? The wraps are in the Resource Library. You can email me at [e-mail] and I can send it to you.

[@CraftwithAnn525]

OMG, I love this tutorial!! Thank you for this amazing video. I just subscribed and can't wait to look at all the fun tutorials you have in store!! :)

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

Thanks so much! I'm really happy you enjoyed it.

[@leahgreenwalt1219]

Love the tumblers!

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

Thanks so much!!

[@ehodge54]

Great video! A question of the video: how do you speed it up? I have an iPhone, but haven't figured out if I need an app to do the speed up, thank you.

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

I edit in Filmora and it has a setting where you can speed up sections really easily. I would think iMovie or whatever editor iphones use would have something similar. You just have to make an edit at the beginning of where you want the speed up to start and the end and then set the speed time (like 2x, 4x, etc.) in Filmora. It's probably a matter of doing a search specifically on speeding up or slowing down a video clip on an iphone maybe?

[@mrsdizi1234]

385 120s rotate and another 120s no issues. also try shrink wrapping works great.

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

I've been hesitant to try shrink wrap because the ones I've been able to find seem to be for use in sublimation ovens. Is there one you recommend that is okay in a tumbler press? Maybe the oven ones are okay for that too...I wasn't sure and didn't want to risk it melting in the tumbler press. Thanks!

[@arisingphoenix4392]

Purchased this press in February lots of ghosting and requires entirely too much tape to be successful. Purchased a new press Wednesday of this week and it works perfectly. The new one is a different brand

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

Are you willing to share which one you purchased? I and others would love to know, especially since you aren't having the ghosting issue. Thanks!

[@verneevern]

That's the issue I'm having ghosting issues and I wasn't having this issue with another press I was using that came with my heat press

[@arisingphoenix4392]

@@BlackSheep303Craftssure thing. It’s the exact same one being used. Regrettably, had to purchase a different brand since the only way to prevent ghosting was by using ALOT of tape. It was cutting into my bottom line. Keeping it for mugs but not tumblers. ☹️ Love the video though, thanks for sharing.

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

@@arisingphoenix4392 I guess my question wasn't clear - what is the brand of the new one you purchased after giving up on the HTVRont one? I'm always looking for good brands for tools. Thanks!

[@yaredavila_23]

Hi there. Can you please share the name of the other brand?

[@corrier5954]

Those are sooo nice👍👍 thank you. I think tumbler press is too limiting, as in sizes that would fit.

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

Thanks! There is a small size range (about 2.9" - 3.35" in diameter) so I'll be curious to see what all it can do. It seems like it's more limited than a more general clamshell one but I'm going to try mugs and glass 'cans' too to see how far I can take it.

[@corrier5954]

That will be good to see.​@@BlackSheep303Crafts

[@janeliquore7419]

Thanks for this demonstration. It was very informative and I do love the way your tumblers turned out. I was wondering about the tumbler press. Does it only do mugs and tumblers with one dimension? There are such a variety of dimensions (especially on tumblers. Mugs probably have fewer.)

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

Thanks!! It can definitely do more than one width of tumblers and mugs but there is a limit. The opening is about 3.35" max in diameter so things have to be thinner than that. The manual says it can go as small as 2.9" in diameter - not a huge range in sizes. The longest height would be 9" (according to the manual) although I wonder if you could do something taller and just flip it around to do the part that sticks out of the machine on a second heating. Maybe I'll try it sometime.

[@gailbarrett1191]

Thanks for the info.. I think you are doing great.

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

Thank you so much!

[@jonathanlang4326]

How if the picture or design don't come out on the tumbler and the paper be stuff on the tumbler what do you do to correct it.

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

Unfortunately, with sublimation projects there isn't a way to fix them if they don't trun out. You can try putting the paper back on and reheating it but the chance of being able to get it back in the exact same place is very, very low so you'll probably wind up with a lot of ghosting, which will be worse. When mine don't turn out,. I have to start over with a new blank and print. If you're new to the process and are able to, try using some cheaper blanks first if possible (mugs work in the press too) so you can get a feel for the right settings, how to wrap the blank well, etc. It does take some practice but hang in there - you'll get it.

[@AlaskaBikeDoctor]

I've bought this tumbler about a month ago. I think the biggest problem (after about 2 dozen tumblers) is the operator. The machine seems to be working consistently well. Maybe they made some changes since your July update.

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

I'm really glad to hear it works well for you! Are you taping the bottom edge differently than I did? Any tips may help. Thanks!

[@verneevern]

Any suggestions I'm having ghosting issues i messed up 3 tumblers with this heat press i did it once for 380 for 120 seconds and its ghosting either near the seam or bottom or top of cup so frustrating

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

Unfortunately, I gave up on this tumbler press when the buttons stopped working for me (not long after this video). But, there are several people in the comments who suggested rotating the tumbler multiple times during the heating process and heating it longer than I did. One person puts the bottom back in the tumbler press again and heats it again to get good results on the bottom edge. Another person mentioned using the method from an Industrial Fringe video and getting perfect results. She didn't say which one but I'm guessing it's this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYbNYZulbtWDadE I hope one of those helps - you might want to read the other comments since I may not have summarized them very well here. Good luck!

[@mariafsousa2674]

I bought this press to do mugs and I bought 35!! 15oz cricut mugs on sale. Sadly they don’t fit and there is no way to adjust it!!! 😢

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

Oh no! I hope you were able to return the mugs and get ones that fit.

[@staticx182]

Exactly that is the temperature and time it should take for black colors?

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

Time and temperature settings are largely determined by the substrate you are sublimating on to, like the stainless steel tumbler in this video. Without knowing that, I can't give you time and temperature settings. But, as I show in the video, the booklet that comes with the machine gives you settings based on the substrate. Also, the color of the material/sublimation design doesn't make a difference so once you know the settings for your substrate, you are good to go. Here's a blog post from HTVRont that should help: www.htvront.com/blogs/beginners-guide-precautions/tumbler-press-time-and-temp I hope that helps!

[@jonathanlang4326]

Whats the best sublimation paper to use.

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

I use A-Sub 120 G Sublimation Paper. It works really, really well for me so I highly recommend it!

[@andreatthatsme]

Have you tried it with shrink wrap? What tumbler press did you switch to?

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

I haven't tried shrink wrap but I've thought about it. I purchased one from Craft Express. Not as compact but work very well.

[@andreatthatsme]

@BlackSheep303Crafts Thank you 😊. Did you do a video with the Craft Express? If not, will you be doing one? I am torn between a tumbler press or a sublimation oven from a sublimation company. I'm still not sure I want to get into sublimation printers. I'm not one for conversions or shortcuts. It's bad enough I have 50,000 hobbies. 😆 🤣 😂. I'm pretty sure I don't need 1 more but hey, if I can make some money with it, it might be worth investing in it.

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

@@andreatthatsme I haven’t done a video with the Craft Express tumbler press. I may but it won’t be soon. A sublimation oven would give you the ability to do more types of projects than a tumbler-specific press. But if you really only want to do tumblers then either would work. Good luck deciding. I know what you mean about having 50,000 hobbies - lol. 😆 But that’s a nice problem to have.

[@myrawhite9138]

I have made several of the sublimation tumblers that turned out great. The only thing about the tumblers that I don’t like is they don’t keep the drinks cold for long. They are not like the Yeti type of tumblers that keep the ice 🧊 stay for hours and even overnight.

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

I know what you mean. I love the Yeti tumblers that keep the ice for hours and hours. There has to be a stainless steel tumbler that can be used for sublimation that has the same insulating factor out there somewhere. Hopefully I'll find it one day. Fingers crossed!

[@beckieDevore]

i dont think im ready for that yet

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

It's always good to know when something is not for you. 8-)

[@mackin800]

My goodness. The amount of ads almost makes this content unwatchable.

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

I have no control over how many or what types of ads get placed in the video. That's controlled by KZbin.

[@jessicawilson2028]

I hate this press it's a waste money

[@BlackSheep303Crafts]

After using it for awhile, I agree with you. The buttons went south on me fairly quickly so I switched to a different press.