Japanese Saw Sharpening

[@wesleydick7727]

That saw is enormous!

[@faraazmeer6283]

Yeah but what about its personality

[@beckettferguson4888]

The saw is definitely not funny at that size

[@memeologistdodo402]

@@beckettferguson4888 the like ratios disagree

[@minimalisticmime5459]

@@beckettferguson4888 apparently it is 😂

[@garybob212]

​@@beckettferguson4888 lol, someones enormous

[@AxeAR]

My man really pulled out the comically large saw

[@yacobshelelshaddai4543]

I thought I was your man 😔

[@GottaWannaDance]

Is he your dad? Drug dealer? Boyfriend? Husband?

[@mnoot7209]

You should see the size of his drill bit!

[@ncrranger6327]

​@@yacobshelelshaddai4543 Dw fam you're my man

[@jimmieweatherspoon1917]

p pp

[@Rentedreaper25]

This saw looks like a dark souls weapon

[@BeastlyAnteater]

Other way around 😉

[@thatslegit]

Bloodborne

[@Gabrielverse]

More like blood borne

[@jebronlames5997]

​@@BeastlyAnteater that weapon looks like a dark souls saw.

[@luisapaza317]

@@BeastlyAnteater this dark souls looks like a saw weapon 🧐

[@fal_youtube]

My grandfather used to say that before disposables became popular, Japanese tools could be used for a lifetime with proper maintenance.

[@Ian-bf4yk]

That’s true of most things in most countries. It’s just not as profitable to build things that last so companies don’t do it.

[@AndorRadnai]

@@Ian-bf4ykThankfully, said long lasting objects will outlive a fair few of the mass produced stuff, guaranteeing a long lasting appreciation for them.

[@1312_PV]

Before disposables were imposed upon the popularion tools were passed down for several lifetimes

[@Thegreatclamslamof93]

Any tool can be used for a lifetime with proper maintenance

[@lalli8152]

Thats pretty much any handtools not only japanese

[@katyungodly]

Studied Japanese for 8 years. Pronunciation is "ohh-gah". You hold the "oh" sound for 2 syllables (the word is 3 syllables long: おおが／o-o-ga)

[@coldfire774]

It's not held though it's two seperate articulations of the same vowel. Contrast ouga/おうが vs ooga/おおが

[@Orudaiken]

Better way of saying it is like O as in the capital letter in the alphabet, transitioning it to a OO sound, like in room, then following that with GA, from gawk.

[@coldfire774]

@@Orudaiken but again that'd be ouga not ooga all Japanese words with two O's Infront have them pronounced seperately

[@potatolord9715]

@@coldfire774 so it’s like Oh-Oga?

[@coldfire774]

@@brenorocha6687 nothing I can prove but it's a minimal pair within the language also I have a degree in Japanese and Linguistics if you want to listen to recordings look for anything with 大（おお) and you'll see what I'm talking about also the honorific お can occur before another お to produce a similar effect and compare that to the final sound in おはよう　こうこう　etc. This is how my Japanese professors taught me at least and they were all native speakers. This distinction isn't in all dialects though so I'd recommend looking into either Tokyo dialect or Hokaido dialect

[@alexsim3722]

ive seen someone else restore this same type of saw. they found out that if you offset every other tooth just a bit it stops the saw from catching kn the wood

[@jacobreisser8034]

There is a tool for setting the kerf.

[@jordanblack2250]

He actually does do this. It's in the long form video, idk why it's edited out of the short.. still catches lmao

[@tommielee8]

That's known as saw blade "set'. Yeah...yet another definition to the word "set". There are tools built specifically to set the teeth. my concerns with this type of saw is the proportion of saw body to tooth profile. Also, the rake angle and chisel angle leave much to be desired. The Japanese do, however, make excellent modern- day hand saws.

[@alexsim3722]

@TOMMIE Lee theres no way your the tommie lee from Mötley Crüe. Right?

[@spencerredding9157]

Florida been awfully quiet since my man dropped this comically large saw sharpening tutorial.

[@greywolfwalking6359]

Hi! I'm from Florida!! I very much appreciate the whole vid!! Got to use one of those Beast saws while in the service...I have much respect for the carpenters/ Sawyers, That use n maintain them!! Awesome job on this vid!! Thanks for sharing!! 🦊🧙‍♂️🐺

[@victorrodea7163]

Noticed the teeth weren't "set" after sharpening. Setting helps to clear the blade so it doesn't bind as you cut

[@KethenGoesHam]

What's that mean

[@crystalm4324]

Yes - what does that mean - it’s so hard to find real advice about true history and reasoning behind techniques.

[@barryfirth1187]

​​@@KethenGoesHam . I think where the teeth are bent to the left and right alternativly. Keeps the blade from binding. Most blades are, just look along the teeth of any toothed blade and you'll see it. 👍🙂

[@drakenthedrak1303]

Here’s one of those “experts” that litter his comments section.

[@mattwebster7266]

Yes ur spot on. My late Dad was a joiner and taught me over the years how to work with wood. I was left with all his tool and have the tool for setting the teeth...

[@MikeyJBlakeJR]

I really admire that you're not afraid to share content that you may expect to get pushback for. Seems it's impossible to do anything online without getting loads of critics, but you still share because you're doing what you love. Good on you, man.

[@jimgardner5129]

That's one helluva saw. Belongs in its own horror movie.

[@mayorb3366]

I may rather be chased by someone with a chainsaw than with one of those things.

[@camerongrondzki2716]

Thing looks more like an anime weapon than a wood saw

[@TheMrVengeance]

Because Japan used to be a feudal society in which most people weren't allowed, or could even afford, to own an actual weapon. Only samurai carried blades. So a lot of people had to improvise with what they had, farming and woodworking tools. That's why many martial arts weapons are based on common tools, and why they look so similar. Staves, sai, kama, nunchaku, tonfa.

[@TheMrVengeance]

@Cameron F That's absolute BS, if you're going to legally allow things because "people will do it/find a way anyway" then you have no laws left and might as well just abolish the justice system. The 2A causes massive amounts of innocent deaths each year. Get lost.

[@jaytrain5478]

I'm a professional blacksmith and gunsmith, and you did a beautiful job with your restoration of that saw.

[@Lardbeane]

Might I ask where/how you got into gunsmithing?

[@Thekarateadult]

What does that have to do with lumberjacking? I'm not asking my dentist how my testes are doing ya know

[@winnie6354]

do you need to set the teeth on the saw to give you clearance in the wood ?

[@theshadowbehindyou9631]

@@Thekarateadult well blacksmiths would know the correct way to put an edge on the saw, which is then used for lumberjack work…. Incase you didn’t realize this video was about sharpening a saw blade, not felling trees… 😉

[@Thekarateadult]

@@theshadowbehindyou9631 I'm a member of the international brotherhood of boilermakers, blacksmiths, forgers, and helpers and I'll own you're correct. I'm wrong.

[@frankgeorgeo8582]

Now THAT'S a SAW !!!!

[@terrydouglas2777]

I was following your channel and Google or KZbin kick me off. So glad you posted this so I could remember I once followed you. That saw is very interesting to me. I love how it looks like a whale just like the name of it. So happy to be able to watch your videos again. Thank you so much for posting this video brother. I'm so happy. Thank you.

[@michaelhelle7469]

beautiful saw. you do you, I'm still impressed with your methods. been woodworking for 25ish years. your channel is by far my favorite. 👍

[@Jrez]

A double vowel in Japanese is just an extended vowel, Japanese is phonetic so vowels only have one pronunciation. O is like the O in Open, and OO would just extend the time you say the O, so it'd be like saying OOOOpen.

[@NewNormac]

Great work sir ~Smile oN

[@jasonmeyer1214]

Just have a friendly tip for you in regards to filing metal… a file only cuts (or files) in one direction… generally what ruins a file over time is when people use it going in both directions just like you do in this short video… you want to find the direction (mostly pushing while holding the handle) it cuts in and left when resetting (or pulling back) the file… files will go awhile being used wrong because they are so much harder than most metals we file… but using them the right way will basically indefinitely increase their lifespan… Besides that, nicely done my man.👏🏻💯👍🏻

[@The-Caged-King]

That’s been disproven ages ago. Only very old files made a long while ago are still like that.

[@DrDAC-go7hs]

Super cool. I don't know anything about these saws but good job

[@tamaraadams9317]

Dude, you’re obviously super talented. So, why do you let the idiots who criticize your work get to you? Screw them! Just keep creating amazing art. (I consider your work as art because… damnnnn)

[@Flyboyminer]

Those gloves you used while filing look great!! And thank you for teaching me of a feather file :)

[@Papi_Mango]

I don’t care what anyone says about your work. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HAD WORK! I appreciate your tenacity on making this videos.

[@joeblow9180]

My guess is the original owners of these saws had large triangular saw files, not flat files, to do this job. You probably should set the teeth a little as well. Will help the saw plate from getting jammed.

[@johnbaker1256]

Cleaning the rust off the sides might help.

[@dnomyarnostaw]

@@johnbaker1256 Just a bit :-)

[@MisterRorschach90]

They really need to create a cnc robotic arm device that is designed to sharped anything and everything. Just scans, chooses the tools and bits to use, and goes to town. Only financially feasible for giant shops, but so cool.

[@coco_rthritis6462]

Is that the same Feather company that makes the safety razor blades? Those blades are so damn sharp, amazing.

[@larrysorenson4789]

I worked in Borneo for several years. I saw an old man filing sharks teeth on a strip of metal making a saw. Later as he finished I indicated that I wanted to set the tooth and he was terrified. Eventually, he let me do it. When he made his first cut it was a lot faster. He was amazed. I was not able to make one with chisel teeth which would have been better still. Eventually we got a tool shipment and I let him try a modern saw. His reaction was priceless.

[@bradleytuckwell4881]

If you don’t try you don’t learn. Water off a duck’s back to the haters

[@leonardticsay8046]

Abso-fucking-lutely.

[@rapidfire-0680]

Nice Job, looks like a lot of work ! 😮

[@loyal-egg-X3]

That is the ooowga! Saw most cartoon like saw out there

[@clevernamehere7559]

People say sharpening saws is difficult, is only difficult if you cannot access the correct shapes of files. They were made to be readily field serviceable, using hand tools most guys had back in the day.

[@allyalykkurusumuthu4789]

bros saying american people cant pronounce it when its just him not trying 😭😭

[@glizzygoblin6444]

This looks SO IMPRACTICAL, it's hard to understand why anyone would use that over a conventional saw.

[@kotafoster1375]

Hey man, you should consider putting a sweet Japanese dragon on that bad boy 🤣 Lmfao bet you got way more heat for that then any of us could ever imagine.

[@colinr603]

I could have predicted the Japanese would make anime based solely on the ridiculous size and shape of this saw.

[@rolls_8798]

nice. although, I'd say it looks more like a dragon, not a whale, it's more Japanese that way

[@benicer]

That saw is insane !!! I would love to have one. Maybe etching some design into it ?

[@brandonn6099]

If you see two vowels in Japanese, it just means you say the vowel twice without pause. It's really fast. As fast as you can think o-oga you say it with one o.

[@dean-ospumoni4655]

man's said "pacificly"

[@sw1nkz50]

Me a Swede who also speaks English and German: "Is pronouncing a Japanese double O hard?" (looks up Japanese pronunciation) ".... I-It's the same as the Swedish Å..."

[@livedandletdie]

Almost the same, dependent on dialect. But yes, it's extremely easy. My dialect doesn't have Å at all, so had I not spoken Rikssvenska, I wouldn't be able to pronounce it. Au/Aau isn't the same as Å after all.

[@sw1nkz50]

@@livedandletdie I'm a northerner, so we use Å a lot more than the majority of Sweden 😅

[@yurashida]

yes… but not in this word. 大鋸 is pronounced “oga”. americans usually take the literal transcriptions of each word instead of their actual relevant form so 大 would be o but in this case they made it “oo”

[@sw1nkz50]

@@yurashida Huh, you learn something weird about the Americans every day. Though it's pronounced like a Swedish Å in 大鋸.

[@yurashida]

@@sw1nkz50 another example is japanese wood charring called 焼杉 yakisugi in japanese. americans call it “shou sugi ban” (using the onyomi for 焼 and adding the word 板 “plank”)

[@virtualhimeji462]

Good job sharpened is another skill set to learn so keep practicing. I enjoy restoring old hand tools and find sharpening to be a relaxing way to pass time

[@TheNocturnalEvil]

Sawing wood with that saw will be one hell of an arm workout.

[@hexcodeff6624]

The "comically large saw" reveal was awesome. Looks cool, though

[@terrydouglas2777]

I wonder what year that saw was made. The older the saws and files the better the metal in them. Those are what you want to buy.

[@Lazt]

I know nothing about this but the time lapse as it gets sharper looks amazing! 👌🏽

[@ThunderManDabro]

Im asian so i don't even know what it feels like to not be able to say a double o'd word

[@williamreilly8520]

Your better at sharpening than cutting .😄Im impressed.I noticed it already had a decent kerf on it to start with

[@kurogoma9547]

There is no double O sound in this case. the saw is called 大鋸 in its kanji written form, and おが in hiragana written form. the 大 commonly is pronounced with a "double O" sound, for example, Osaka (the city), which is written 大阪（おおさか）has the double O sound. with the double O sound all you do is elongate the sound, like a tempo to music, each character in the hiragana gets a beat. but this saw name, is just one O. so O>Ga. the "O" as in "Old" and the "Ga" as in "god"

[@trojanyacht2518]

Good job and file work! Teeth leveling shows quality work

[@keiran5170]

That saw looks like it belongs in Monster Hunter as a lore accurate butter knife

[@lostpockets2227]

this saw actually cut wood, amazing.

[@__8120]

That saw looks straight out of monster hunter

[@threestarsandasling]

Love how many folks try to diss you but you've got a flourishing channel and you're actually producing beautiful pieces that sell for a thousand ++ $$$, while they've got a garage of name brand tools and the biggest project is a chopping board for the wife or repairing a plank on their deck. 😂😂😂😂Keep on keeping on brother!

[@njosborne6152]

There are no rakers and is designed to cut both way. The back stroke removes the chaff whereas a Europium has rakers that remove the chaff upon the down stroke.

[@cheez-itdestroyer]

I sharpen those saws every day for the last 40 years, looks like you did a good job

[@XanderJuhasz]

They call them whale saws because they’re shaped like whales. It also doesn’t work as intended because you were more worried about content instead of showing people the proper way to do something. Those saws actually cut very beautifully and aggressively when sharpened properly. They were meant to be aggressive and less labor intensive. If you knew half of what you were doing you could tell that by the teeth and entire profile of the saw.

[@aaronkinney6004]

This short pops up every couple months and every single time, im like "whales dont have spines like that" and then i see the whole saw and im like "ooooooooohh, it does look like a whale."

[@salty_honky]

It is a saw it is made to cut wood and you did a good job sharpening her up

[@seandoughty7292]

You did a good job with that.

[@kuk3411]

As a part time dentist, I can confirm this is how you sharpen it

[@bwerx]

OH MY GOD!! Imagine that!! A saw that actually cuts wood!!! MIND BLOWN!!

[@Tommyxp420]

I still think about the story you told of how you got that saw. I always wondered why the owner didnt want to get rid of it and refused to sell it to you. Then his son i think it was sold it to you because they needed the sale. Idk why but thay story has stuck with me. I think maybe you should take it back and show the man are caring for it and restored it to its formy glory and the saw is in good hands

[@kennethparker2168]

I got a file like that 1 time when I purchased a lathe I never knew what it was for Thank you

[@mikemorgan5015]

It will cut a lot more cleanly and efficiently if it's cutting with the grain rather than the teeth engaging end grain like that. Cool saw!

[@_Mr.Black_]

Thats a great big balooga whale of a saw

[@lordsmorgasbord2646]

"hey can I have some firewood" "only a sawful"

[@bobdixon4998]

Pull cut japanese saws are great. I have two saws meant for the woods and heavier work. Gomboy and 650 silky gomboy. They kick butt.

[@ThomasAnderson-fy8fn]

You back drawing that file hurts my soul

[@bdlog6092]

“karaoke” is hard. Ooga-or "ohga”-is dead easy. This may be a rare case where a Southern drawl improves your Japanese.

[@steveskouson9620]

There is a tiny file, in the shop's file drawer. It is my "go to" file. Had no idea what it was. Until Cam showed one. Yep, that little feather shaped file, is just AMAZING! steve

[@daddyethan]

So this is why anime characters have swords that are comically large

[@SamPanamaOfficial]

So, what you're telling me is...the Japanese have a long history of ridiculously sized Anime weapons?

[@thetafritz9868]

It’s literally “we” can’t properly pronounce, no, just those who don’t care enough, it’s easy to replicate the sound if you hear it, all the sounds in that word are present in the English language

[@joaquinrazo8631]

Ooga is just the sound of an old car horn in a loony tunes cartoon

[@acebliss5263]

Saw is straight out of some anime 💀

[@Kratos-eg7ez]

He's right, there's a bunch of "experts" in the comments.

[@Enyaw58]

I know it's not easy but when the piece you're working on moves as you cut, you're making it harder than it should be.

[@clo4473]

That saw was specifically designed for anime use only.

[@song_of_the_phoenix2010]

I swear,if moana put that saw on her canoe instead of a sail,she would have gotten to Te Ka within a day and defeated her with the saw without even thinking about Maui.

[@maze_cuba_og9149]

“So how big do you want your saw?” “Yes”

[@DraxTheDestroyer]

This is a proper anime weapon

[@frakis2771]

Japanese pronunciation is easy. Kinda like music, every character is like a beat. Each character takes the same amount of time to pronounce. Ooga has three characters, o, o, and ga. So it takes three beats to say. There is no special emphasis like with English.

[@timmycu]

That shit straight out of an anime😂😂

[@vaevictusdeus]

Japanese is remarkably simple to pronounce phonetically because the vowels ALWAYS sound the same. "A" is always "ah", "E" is always "eh", "I" is always "E" (as in exactly like the letter "e" is pronounced), "O" is always "oh" (exactly how you'd say the letter "O"), and "U" is always "ooh", like how you'd pronounce the o's in "too". Just have to know ah, eh, E, O, ooh for "a", "e", "i", "o", and "u". Typically speaking, if you see two vowels together, just pronounce them individually.

[@Isaacsbased]

You’ll never be as good as the KZbin comments experts man!

[@spencebrooks7187]

Hot take pull saws are superior in literally all applications

[@zacster311]

That thing is way bigger than I expected. I never SAW that coming.

[@edwardabel3716]

I love your “appropriate slice” at your critics “I was properly ridiculed by a bevy of experts that produce my comments section”

[@takethebaitmate1920]

As a restorationist for these older Japanese saws this pained me to watch

[@urmelausdemeis3495]

Haben Sie ein Video oder Bücher in denen die Restauration von Sägen richtig gelehrt wird? Das würde mir sehr helfen. Vielen Dank vorab

[@richardlusk1715]

Great job my friend. History is so important

[@Alpheus_09C]

It's really easy to pronounce. Sometimes the Japanese sounds can be tricky for westerners but it's quite easy when you know the history behind. It is derived from a word that dates back to the stone age where it was colloquiallly called ooga booga

[@solorollo9756]

“Delivery”

[@Alpheus_09C]

@@solorollo9756 was it good or bad idek

[@tnstef2629]

Was not expecting a medieval looking weapon of a saw!

[@jonbrown3227]

Looks more like godzillas back; it should be coined the Zilla saw, it’s even Japanese so I mean it only falls into place.

[@Paid2Win]

Bloodborne called, they want their folding knife back

[@DR_SOLO]

I think I noticed one thing about what sizes the blades are not evenly down the middle the blades are offset each blade differential left right left right left right to slightly angled with the serpent process they might even be flared out just a slight degree or two.

[@TheBigDingleBerry]

Didn’t expect you to bust out the fuckin bloodborne weapon at the end

[@brumagemm]

Ooga - literally just pronounced Oh, G, Ah, you just linger on the O twice as long. Bonus points if you don't drop down into the oo/u sound before G.

[@David0lyle]

From what I know about saw sharpening it looks like you did well.

[@uncletrashero]

what you mean you cant pronounce OOGA ? Japanese only has one way to pronounce the letter O, its the same as how you call the name of the letter: O "Oh" so OOGA is literally OH-OH GA

[@michaeldougfir9807]

You did well to use a feather file. But that is not a specific Japanese saw file. STIHL sells them and you can find them online. Yes they are for hand saws.

[@D.Watcher828]

that handsaw looks like some Shinigami's zanpakuto in shikai mode.