Sharpening a Silky Saw

[@matthewberry1738]

Spent a while chatting with Rick and Nita the other day. Was a pleasure! Hoping to convince national parks to purchase some gear for clearing and fire breaking. Very happy with my personal purchase. Thanks guys!

[@SILKYsaw]

Thanks for the comment Matthew. You have great taste and I know you are going to love the saw you chose!

[@mujahidm5219]

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[@FullTimeHypocrite]

@@SILKYsaw are the teeth of the silky set or not? would be nice not having to set them...

[@Paul_M067]

This explains a lot to me & really takes the mystery out of the job. Thanks. Paul

[@SILKYsaw]

Thanks Paul for taking the time to leave a comment.

[@ijulmahardika8923]

Thanks for educated contained video May iknow what is the tools name that i saw at minute 2:03 is use for clamp to the saw blade that was wanna be sharpen by the man?

[@SILKYsaw]

Hi, that is something that you just make yourself. We have not seen one for sale. That is not to say someone out other isn't selling them, but we wouldn't know where to direct you or what to call it, sorry!

[@ijulmahardika8923]

@@SILKYsaw may i know what is the tools name maybe at japanese language

[@ChristianGustafson]

Awesome, thanks. Will rehab my Katanaboy 650 over the winter to prepare for next year's trail work.

[@SILKYsaw]

Great idea!

[@ChristianGustafson]

@@SILKYsaw The Pasayten Wilderness of Washington state is a target-rich place for saws, timber down everywhere. Silky should send me new experimental models and I’ll stress test them on lodgepole pine until they explode!

[@SILKYsaw]

You should contact Silky USA, you never know 😃@@ChristianGustafson

[@antoniovaldes-dapena6298]

Do you have the links to the original videos showing them use the wooden vice 2:05? I’d like to make one myself. More footage would help me replicate it. Thank you.

[@robertschaeffer5861]

2022...8/13...Thank you, some years later, for your very informational video. Sure took the mystery out of the technique or method to put the edge on such a handy tool.

[@gardensandtrees]

So glad you found it helpful! 😃

[@sumanadasanamarathna7175]

Sorry I have mentioned a wrong name for the File. As per Q & A in this site it should be read as "Diamond Shape Feather File". Your cooperation is mostly welcome.

[@friedrichdostoyevsky491]

Thanks for this. I see that a diamond "Silky" blade is quite expensive compared to other diamond files. I assume that the price is due to the brand, and no other difference?

[@SILKYsaw]

Hi, this one is a diamond-shaped file, not a Diamond file. It is also what they call a feather file, so there are lines like a feather all over it. Not sure as to why they cost what they do, but unfortunately that is the cost. 😊 Nita

[@funonvancouverisland]

Excited to try this. I thought the blade was a throw away. Cheers!

[@SILKYsaw]

Hey! Glad we could help! :)

[@jackwheatley8]

thanks for the info, do you have any more footage of the japanese chaps?

[@SILKYsaw]

Hi, no sorry we don't.

[@larryseibold4287]

Good video. Not counting the tip, it seems that you are discussing only sharpening 1/4 of the sides on one side, then flipping it over and then sharpening 1/4 of the sides, thus in total, only sharpening 1/2 of the sharpened sides of the teeth?

[@SILKYsaw]

Hi Larry, sharpening these teeth can be a bit confusing! There are 3 sides to a Silky tooth (including the top angle.) So when you have it secured, you need to sharpen both (2) faces of the teeth on...say the right side of the saw before flipping the blade and doing both sides of the teeth on the left side of the saw. Then if you are doing this for the third time, or have a need to, then you go over the tip of the tooth. I hope this makes sense! 😃 Nita

[@wuffpaw]

Will those files and this technique work on impulse hardened Zubat blades? Having a lot of trouble

[@gardensandtrees]

Hi, no you cant sharpen the hardened teeth as the teeth are harder than the file. You will just eat into the file. The only file that would work on a hardened tooth is a diamond file, but you are likely to snap the teeth off while trying to file them. You can buy a replacement blade for any of the Silky Saws. I hope this helps! 😃 Nita.

[@bounjamin]

Can the Silky Zubat 300 Professional be sharpened?

[@SILKYsaw]

Hi, no sorry, they have been hardened so you are best to buy a new blade for that one 😊 Nita

[@bounjamin]

@@SILKYsaw Thanks so much for the reply! Will be buying a new blade eventually but this one still cuts pretty good. =)

[@1neAdam12]

Tooth setting is paramount, as well as sharpening.

[@SILKYsaw]

Good point Jer Szak. If anyone is unsure if the Silky saw they have has set teeth please contact us, as many of the Silky saws are not set teeth, so you will change the cutting dramatically if you try to set those teeth. Nita.

[@blondemommyvomit]

@@SILKYsaw Ahhhhh, touché! So used to filing Marvin style saw blades that I got them confused. Maybe you can help with this quandary; How many Silky blades should I expect to hone with just a single Silky file? I've noticed they lose some integrity after about 5 sharpenings. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks.

[@SILKYsaw]

Hi @@blondemommyvomit just wondering which Silky Saws you are sharpening? Nita

[@blondemommyvomit]

@@SILKYsaw Hayauchi polesaw and Sugoi handsaw.

[@SILKYsaw]

Hi, it is very hard to say exactly but approximately 5-10 times. Both those saws you have are designed to be sharpened. I hope this helps, Nita.

[@ozbizbozzle]

Question. Im trying to recover a blade that has been misfiled, by me actually. When u file A does the angled piece slope towards the handle or the tip. Assuming its the same for both sides. Thanks

[@SILKYsaw]

Hi ozbizbozzle, the pointy bit of the tooth points back toward the handle. If you let me know which saw you have we should be able to get you the angle Silky recommends for filing. I am assuming you are talking about the angle depicted in the diagram at about 1:15 in the video. cheers Rick

[@SILKYsaw]

Hi ozbizbozzle, the point of the tooth is pointing toward the handle. The face A is filed at a certain angle. If you let us know which Silky you have, we should be able to provide you with the angle Silky recommends for filing face A for your saw. The angles differ for the saws according to the work they were designed for. Sounds complicated but is easier than you think. When you file, only file in the push direction and then lift the file and push for the second stroke. Don't saw the file across the tooth. Two strokes per tooth should be sufficient. Even if you can't get your blade back to original, you will have learnt a lot and will feel the difference when you cut. All the Season's best Rick

[@SILKYsaw]

Hi Ozbizbozzle, we keep trying to reply to you, but it keeps disappearing, sorry. We will keep trying.

[@SILKYsaw]

Hi ozbizbozzle, the tip of face A points to the handle. This is the cutting face and digs in progressively as you pull the saw toward you. If you let us know the Silky Saw you have we can let you know the Silky recommended filing angle for face A. When filing you should only need two strokes per tooth. Push the file over the the tooth, then lift, return to the start point and push the file again. Don't saw the file back and forward across the tooth. Glad to hear that you are having a go at filing. You will get better and quicker. best regards for the season Rick

[@SILKYsaw]

Hi, we have tried to reply to you a couple of times, but it keeps getting deleted. Just testing it now.

[@sumanadasanamarathna7175]

Mine is Bando brand saw. What is the recommended tool for sharpening it?

[@SILKYsaw]

Hi, sorry we are unsure as we specialise in Silky Saws, not Bando. It would be best to contact them. 😃 Nita.

[@hevesat1920]

Thank you. How do we sharpen impulse-hardened saws?

[@SILKYsaw]

Hi, Silky do not recommend sharpening their hardened teeth, but if you did want to try you would need a diamond file and you need to be very careful so as to avoid snapping the teeth off. I hope this helps, Nita. 😀

[@hevesat1920]

SILKY Saws Australia do you know how impulse-hardened blades are sharpened during production? With laser or something? If so, that kind of professional sharpening service would be very good to make old blades like brand-new.

[@SILKYsaw]

@@hevesat1920 Hi, we do not recommend sharpening hardened blades. You are best to buy replacement blades. They are not to expensive so worth looking into.

[@hevesat1920]

SILKY Saws Australia they are expensive in my country because of dollar cost. 1 us dollar equals more than 7 fold of our currency. These quality stuff are imported based on us dollars. Thats why I m trying to find a way to keep using old blades.

[@SILKYsaw]

@@hevesat1920 I am sorry to hear that. Well I hope you have some success with using a diamond file. Tip is to only sharpen the top edge of the tooth. That is your best chance of sharpening them up to begin with.

[@mickleblade]

Awesome video, nice and simple, just like me!

[@SILKYsaw]

Hi, thank you. I am glad you enjoy the video 😃 Shenae

[@sumanadasanamarathna7175]

A nice piece of work. Thanks a lot for the accurate solution, which I was looking for. Can anybody guide me to buy a knife file to get back work my putting saw. Thank. I am from Sri Lanka.

[@SILKYsaw]

Hi! You should be able to buy them from your Silky reseller or you can buy them on Ebay. 😃 Nita

[@sumanadasanamarathna7175]

@@SILKYsaw Thank you very much.

[@otissolomon2137]

What's the measurements of the wooden vice that holds the saw blade

[@SILKYsaw]

Not sure sorry, we have used a variety though, so mainly dependant on the size of the blade you are sharpening. 😊 Nita

[@acafwd]

Thanks for the info. Much appreciacted

[@VincentArboriste]

Very nice! Thank you for this great info!

[@SILKYsaw]

We are so glad you liked it, Nita. 😀

[@autherpenn6223]

Whats the size of that diamond feather edge file? I have a dozuki that is impluse hardened and the replacement blade is always out of stock.

[@SILKYsaw]

Hi, we have the Dozuki blade in stock. If you are in Australia check out www.atcproducts.com.au The feather file can be found in a variety of sizes. The one we have at the moment is 100mm. 😃Nita.

[@jamescampbell7780]

Isn’t this file actually shaped like a rhomboid.

[@gardensandtrees]

Yes, that's right, a Rhomboid, lopsided diamond. 😃

[@jackwheatley8]

This is diamond file?

[@gardensandtrees]

Hi Jack, it is a diamond-shaped feather file 😃

[@jackwheatley8]

@@gardensandtrees would this sharpen the katana boy 650 when it gets blunt....which isnt any time soon!

[@gardensandtrees]

@@jackwheatley8 Yes, absolutely, if and when you do, just go over the top edge only! It should be on a 37 degree angle 😊

[@jackwheatley8]

@@gardensandtrees okay cool, but only with a diamond file not a standard file? as its hardened steel isnt it? the tips

[@gardensandtrees]

@@jackwheatley8 So they do not harden the steel on this one. Also, the file is Diamond SHAPED, not a diamond file. It is a feather file in a very narrow diamond shape. 😃 Nita

[@SebR-FR]

Diamond files can't sharpen impulse-hardened saws ?

[@SILKYsaw]

Hi Seb, Silky have said that a Diamond file can sharpen their hardened teeth, however they do not recommend it, as it is very easy to break the teeth off and very hard to achieve a good finish. Thanks for your question, Nita

[@19skater9]

Thankyou

[@SILKYsaw]

😃

[@PedroRuiz-ot6wf]

como consegir esas limas

[@SILKYsaw]

cualquier revendedor sedoso debería poder conseguirlos para usted.😀

[@darrelllee6156]

good video, thank you!

[@SILKYsaw]

Good onya Darrel

[@mvblitzyo]

excellent !!

[@pwhite1157]

Where do you buy the file?

[@SILKYsaw]

Hi P White, if you are in Australia you can purchase it on our website www.arborlab.com.au If you are in another country please contact japan and they will direct you to your closest Silky Distributor. www.silky.jp/

[@SuperBaba4u]

Wat the file called..??

[@SILKYsaw]

Hi, this is called a diamond shaped feather file 😀 Nita.

[@dianjuang7733]

What a tools Sharpening name

[@SILKYsaw]

Silky recommend a flat diamond shaped feather file.

[@dianjuang7733]

@@SILKYsaw thanks bro

[@tahquameken]

Why only sharpen half of the teeth? That seems like an important detail that was missed.

[@gardensandtrees]

The first 2 sharpens often only require the tip to be sharpened. No need to touch the sides unless you have lost length or damaged the tooth further down. 😊

[@CompetentSalesUSA]

Difficult to understand.