Blade Runner 2049 - Deckard Meet Mr. Wallace Scene - Her Eyes Were Green

[@scarental5220]

"You don't have children.. do you?" "Oh, I have millions" Every damn time, spooks the shit out of me. The first time he smiles in the movie, the rising sound in the background and the lean in. Scary stuff

[@jac1207]

and the funny thing is, he has "millions of children" and yet he doesn't get why Decker wouldn't give up his child to obvious eventual testings and dissections for study.

[@rgl2879]

IKR

[@Mlogan11]

Ja C That's the irony - he does have "children", but he has no attachment to them other than for them to serve is purpose and nothing else. So his "kids" are really just disposable drone to do his bidding- antithetical to a functional human parent child relationship. That point is driven home when he snuffs the copy of Rachel when Deckard rejected her.

[@Mlogan11]

Jonathan M What's relative? A normal functioning human doesn't raise their children to perform specified task and be immediately terminated for failure. This applies to not just a parent of a single child, but those of many children. The irony is parent would die to protect their children whereas Wallace would have his "children" die to protect him or his interests.

[@crhettbuttler1]

'You think I have nothing to offer but pain? Only I know, you love pain' I think of this as a metaphor to how the gods think about creatures they create, and the wrath that they wrap them in with, by imposing sub-survival conditions on them

[@tommycipriani2254]

People can bitch about Leto all they want because of The Joker, he was brilliant as Wallace. Such a sinister yet soothing character.

[@redhotchilifan98]

Tommy Cipriani I thought leto did a damn good job

[@nighttray1489]

Tommy Cipriani He could have made the greatest live action Joker of all time. His body of work proves it. The writing for Suicide Squad was just fucking awful.

[@redhotchilifan98]

Nighttray exactly

[@Moooras]

Tommy Cipriani the funny fact: the first choice for an actor to play Wallace was David Bowie, but he died right before they started shooting.

[@brazilseanss]

Tommy Cipriani he's basicly suppose to represent the devil.

[@RaptorRed11]

The insanity of Wallace’s rant is one of my favorite scenes. He spends a short eternity constructing in Deckard‘s mind the disturbing possibility that he’s not what he thinks he is, acknowledging the possibility that Tyrell created the entire scenario to get him to sire a child with Rachel, and then he immediately shits all over the idea by stating it was equally possible he’s just some schmuck who got lucky with a pretty girl.

[@kurtrivero368]

RaptorRed11 Which part of Niander's "interrogation" do you personally think is real? That is what makes this scene endlessly fascinating imo. That and Harrison Ford's almost wordless performance here.

[@RaptorRed11]

Kurt Rivero I don’t think he really cares, it’s just an attempt to get into his head.

[@kurtrivero368]

RaptorRed11 Niander had the steps laid out beforehand. Watch the scene again.

[@RaptorRed11]

Kurt Rivero oh you were asking my personal interpretation, not what Wallace believes. I don’t personally care anymore than I think Wallace does. Deckard’s background changes nothing about him as a person, he’s just as real as he would be if he was or wasn’t. I can see why the question would bother Deckard, but I think of the dog in an earlier scene. K asks if it’s real, and Deckard tells him he should ask the dog. The dog itself probably wouldn’t care. It’s as real as any dog birthed naturally if it is a replicant.

[@darrinsiberia]

You've bought into this crapola so hard core you might as well eat cheese whiz the rest of your life and worship the wonderful cows whose "milk" made it for you. Holy crap. The reason for his diatribe is that Wallace is a CRAP character and it is a CRAP script that had to stuff all this info in the most pedantic man-splaining way possible. This movie SUCKS. I will still watch it because I am a fan of the WORLD of Blade Runner. Not at all these characters. K was a good character. Why load all this crap with a CGI Rachel at the end. Makes no f'ing sense. The whole Wallace character, such a let down. Tyrell was larger than life. He was Steve Jobs, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos rolled into one. He wasn't some Queen Bavmorda from Willow screaming "find me the baby!" He was CONTENT. He knew he was THE MAN. He played chess with his employees. He hung out in a bath robe. He could have created Deckard and Rachel to hump. And yet. He wouldn't have been so freaking eerily INVESTED in it as Wallace is. And the reason isn't so that you can all scrutinize it like there is some DEEP meaning. No it's because he is a lame character whose simple purpose was to DRIVE PLOT POINTS. Freaking holy hell. What crap. Rubbish! Horrible!

[@elcobra98]

Wallace's face when Deckard says "her eyes were green", like a chef that's told one of his dishes is undercooked....god-tier.

[@GM-kp7yw]

He did that on purpose. First, to reject the Trojan Horse this Rachel was, and second, to piss on Wallace face

[@chrisdonahue524]

Underrated comment

[@solidturtle6910]

are you implying that women are dishes? that's offensive I'm posting this on twitter

[@izworks420]

The funny thing is Rachel's eyes were always brown

[@singletona082]

For a man like wallice who boasts of his own grandure yet is... a pale immitation of tyrel? That slap to the face was catharsis itself.

[@tomashize]

Great to see Ford really ACTING again. He is so good when he gives a shit.

[@davecrupel2817]

Agreed.

[@Incog2k6]

Indeed. It feels like forever since he hasn't been phoning it in. If only the same could be said for Bruce Willis... even for Glass, he only gave half a shit...

[@moviefan8533]

Incog2k6 I feel like between 1999-2008 he phoned it in. But in the last 10 years he’s turned in some of his most varied work.

[@samkresil6011]

Just when it seemed like a shame for some actors who even tried in other on-going franchises.

[@andreadelcorvo6890]

-I love you, deckard. -i know.

[@roloug95]

I honestly think this scene is one of the best performances Harrison Ford has ever given

[@redhotchilifan98]

roloug95 I agree 100%

[@mariopiluso1200]

For me the last shot is better. Wow

[@draykilemikedrower8175]

whut about the blind man with flying black cameras that he use for eyes?

[@manuelantonioarizacastro9070]

It really Is!! Wow!! I noticed it " I know what is real"

[@nathanbellic767]

I disagree, in this specific scene he was very good but overall his was a good performance, but he could've given more

[@NightWanderer31415]

Wallace taunts at the idea that Deckard is in fact a replicant. For a few seconds, it made me believe that the movie was going to take a side in this regard. But then he backs down. Brilliant, just brilliant.

[@tejasviangadi6097]

What....I thought he was a replicant

[@omega1397]

@@tejasviangadi6097 it's ambiguous. As it always should be.

[@singletona082]

I hate being teased... but I grinned ear to ear that this movie leaned heavily on that decades old debate without ever giving a clear answer.

[@samuelgraczyk3799]

@@singletona082 Deckard is a replicant, the whole point of blade runner, is if that even matters, and what it means to be human. I know this is a late reply, but i don't care I'm writing an essay bout this rn.

[@singletona082]

@@samuelgraczyk3799 And you're welcome to believe that, as Ridley Scott has come down in favor of both arguments for and against over the years. I like the interpretation a longstanding friend of mine that it is better for Deckard to be human because he's just so shelled out and hollow that ultimately it doesn't matter if you're human by birth, or by whatever assembly vats replicants are made in. the point is how you treat your fellow beings. Deckard acting replicant-like while still being human blurs the line as much as replicants like pris and roy acting human-like, and that 'fuzziness' is the entire point in my mind. However 'mechanical cat to catch the mechanical mouse' works too. i suggest reading the 'do androids dream electric sheep' novella sometime. It provides some interesting context for things. Either way, still glad they never actually answered the question, because this is a case where the question is VASTLY more important.

[@romilrh]

At 2:08 Deckard leans forward, and Wallace actually flinches back a little, despite being blind. It's incredibly subtle, but a really cool detail

[@DngrDan]

It's even cooler when you realize the opaque contact lenses Jared Leto wore for this character made him 100% blind in all his scenes. He felt Harrison lean in and reacted accordingly.

[@jakeslaughter7201]

I can’t even imagine how hard this would be. Seeing the woman you have loved and missed and mourned for almost 30 years standing in front of you, completely and exactly how you remember her asking her if you missed her and if you loved her, but knowing deep down it wasn’t her at all. Then lying about her eye color, knowing full well they were brown eyes and knowing what would happen to her, and turning your back on her. I can’t imagine many worst kinds of hell.

[@ChazUBCS]

Jake Slaughter that’s why the scene was intense. He lost her twice.

[@youtuberesearch7017]

He knew it was android.

[@trekgreenwood6743]

But… here eyes were green. We see that in the original 100 test question when Deckard first met her. Zoomed in, here iris is green, not brown.

[@jyconx]

@@trekgreenwood6743 Correct. During the Voight-Kampf test scene.

[@Munnwort]

@@jyconx literally what he said lol

[@peterschulz6379]

Harrison ford doing some insane acting here

[@rgl2879]

one of his best performances

[@andregordon2599]

my favourite part is how they address the "is Deckard a replicant" question by getting as close to it as possible in this scene and not going all the way. thematically perfect.

[@annelively6932]

HE KNOWS WHATS REAL AND SHIT BRO

[@therealmr.incredible3179]

If living in a Radiation Heavy Wasteland for Decades and not Dying a Horrible Brutal Death isn’t a good enough Sign for you that He IS a Replicant, Then I don’t know what is.

[@orlandofurioso7329]

​@@therealmr.incredible3179replicants had short lifespans, and i seriously doubt Deckard was not tested before the first movie, that theory is dumb since he is human in the book

[@singletona082]

That has been a debate going literally as long as i have been alive and i have participated in from usenet on to various forums and on through the decades. I love that they never answer it, because the answer is infinitely less interesting than the discussion around it.

[@guyincognito566]

Leto knocked it out of the park, so did Green, Fancher and Villineuve. Wallace appears in only three scenes and yet it is such a fulfilled and in-depth character.

[@tongathedevil5386]

And Deakins.

[@moviefan8533]

@@tongathedevil5386 And Ford FFS

[@transfo47]

Leto is excellent.

[@Keyring7031]

@@transfo47because he isn’t really acting lmao.

[@arturovandeley]

"How's your bank account after Suicide and BR 49, Jared?" "Oh I have millionsssss"

[@theengineer6213]

I’m super glad they didn’t show or hint her being in the movies in the trailers. I was extremely shocked and happy she appeared in the movie. Such a nostalgic moment for me seeing her again

[@hailey7368]

I couldn't agree more. I loved how they kept it mainly about K and his story instead of just making it about Deckard completely.

[@stofosaurus]

Blade Runner 2049 is a good example of how to properly revisit a franchise that has been dormant for years and properly do it justice... Prometheus, my dear engineer, is not.

[@wassupbro]

@@stofosaurus Top Gun Maverick

[@30AndHatingIt]

I’ll second Top Gun. Best movie of the last 10 years as far as an escape and theater experience goes.

[@squiremuldoon5462]

@@stofosaurusPrometheus was so visually stunning that a lot of people don’t realize how dumb it is.

[@haydnplaysgames]

A perfect continuation. The ultimate sequel. Rare indeed...

[@mikebasil4832]

The flow of dialogue is quite remarkable. Deckard’s first words for Wallace, “I know what’s real.”, feel so empowering.

[@gl3282]

2:14 Wallace is an awesome villain he really believes replicants are his children yet he's cruel enough to sacrifice his own children for his cause.

[@sapphasea]

And Electra, redeems Agamemnon.

[@thoththeatlantean1226]

Like god

[@Nicholas_Chen_]

He's got some serious God complex issues

[@Inevitibility23]

2:08 I love how when Deckard leans forward, Wallace recoils. He's afraid of him.

[@fabriciorodas4961]

now that you say that i feel like that could mean because Dekard is a special type of replicant

[@Inevitibility23]

I think it's simpler than that. I think Wallace is afraid of Deckard because Deckard is more real than he is. Deckard is "truly human" (could be literal, but I'm speaking metaphorically).

[@fabriciorodas4961]

oh shit you right you right

[@Art_Enthusiast]

I don’t think so. By naming his replicants « angels » he is indireclty tells us that he is a god. That’s how arrogant he is. He is not afraid of Deckard, he let him more room to speak so he can have the information needed. Deckard being insolent, Wallace leans forward again « I have millions » (I can hear « I am a god »).

[@Inevitibility23]

He's a pretender to the throne. He doesn't have any actual children, and he certainly has no ties with his replicants. Deckard has real love for his real daughter. That makes him real. Wallace is shrinking back from the inner power he has.

[@Toecuttah]

Let's see Paul Allen's replicant.

[@Rassillon1234]

I love how there is a clash of two different acting styles.

[@desirereleased3423]

Rassilon1234 the silent and forcibly restrictive emoting Ford does as he tries to process what Leto tells him and the seemingly megalomaniac monologue but effectively chilling and inhuman delivery by Leto

[@eme.261]

Humans are unique; therefore, what you're looking at are two actors behaving in the manner that suits the demeanor of their character.

[@fdoyle]

Yeah. "Good" and "deeply selfish and ego-driven"

[@whitenoise7980]

It's sad that people ignored this movie. In my opinion, it's a masterpiece.

[@geometrydashiuppiter6910]

It really is. But hey, it's become a cult in the end.

[@Howlingburd19]

@@geometrydashiuppiter6910 literally, it followed the same cycle as it’s predecessor: a movie that flopped at release, but gained a massive cult following and is now known as a masterpiece :)

[@nickarrigo7493]

probably the best I've ever seen

[@CheeseInTheOven]

The best movies are the ones that grow on people. Alot of bad films are the ones that do incredibly well due to them spoon feeding baby basic ideas that eventually turn said film into a stink pile in comparison to the flower that took its time to grow on people

[@griefer5846]

@@Howlingburd19 ima admit, the plot was terrible. But i really enjoyed the shots and the characters in this film.

[@ikejugend]

1:27 the moment when doubt gets into Decard’s mind and shadows play shows this perfectly. Masterpiece

[@tudorinbogdan240]

"I know what's real..." Hits you like a truck every time.

[@mikebasil4832]

@@tudorinbogdan240 Indeed. It's one of the most powerful science fiction film quotes of all time.

[@redhotchilifan98]

This is one of the best scenes Harrison has ever given in my opinion

[@VinylSamuraisMusic]

redhotchilifan98 “I know”

[@wordshock]

“Her eyes were green” turns out to be the perfect line to deal with the experience of the uncanny valley. The digital recreation of Rachael is some of the best CG work I’ve ever seen but it’s not going to 100% trick your brain into believing it’s real. That tiny nagging doubt then gets pushed to the side with Deckard’s line because you then focus your doubt on her brown eyes not matching *your* memory of Rachael. (That must be it). Might be intentional or accidental genius.

[@ChazUBCS]

TheDeadYoshi disagree. I was totally baffled during the first time I saw it. I was pretty stunned. I bet if you showed it to someone who knew nothing about the first film, they’d think she was real. Not cgi.

[@eaglehawk3536]

I think it is also to be a mockery in the likeness of the replica of Rachel. like a piece of literature and irony unfolding before Deckard teasing his memory.

[@joshuasantana685]

At first I was like, her eyes aren’t green. It looked brown. From a distance, it doesn’t look green. But if you remember from the first Blade Runner movie when Deckard was testing Rachel, the Voigh Kampff test looks at the eyes of the person being tested. Her eyes were green in that.

[@collinmartin9925]

I was thinking the same. When I saw this in theatres I was undoubtedly blown away, but I still knew it wasn’t here, what could’ve ruined the scene is if deckard like turned away and was like “no!” Or something else other than mention her one error that we the audience already acknowledge

[@samthong3305]

its a genuis move. it looks real to u? then the cgi was perfect. it doesn't? then it adds to the fact that she's an imperfect copy!

[@Tuna503]

This scene had me out of my chair with my hands on my head questioning everything I’ve learned from the last two blade runners

[@davecrupel2817]

Thats how you KNOW you have a great sequal/followup. :)

[@streetrat48]

Two?

[@samotr7713]

@@streetrat48 🤷‍♂️

[@pabloalex2755]

Holy fuck, the cinematography and the acting is utterly amazing and mind-blowing in this scene!

[@Condor1970]

Dang, they did a good job on that CGI face. One of the best I've ever seen.

[@pyjama9556]

Condor1970 incredible but as soon as she speaks it sounds very different from Sean young!

[@madtitan0825]

And yet JL still managed to screw up Superman’s mouth

[@theengineer6213]

I agree. It works because her face wasn’t overly expressive like how some animators like to make them to be. The human face has many movements but very subtle. Most animator our there go overboard with facial expression and that’s why some of them turn out horrible. This is a good example of less is more. It was near perfection

[@franklesher4459]

I was blown away when everyone in the theather saw that scene.

[@omniexistus]

Say what you want about Wallace..he sure has great aesthetic style with the pool room..love to have a room like that.

[@wordshock]

Yep and wood is ridiculously expensive (which is established with K’s wood figurine in the pawn shop) and Wallace has an entire pyramid interior furnished in it - floor to ceiling.

[@onex7805]

This callback showing the first time Deckard met Rachael in the original Blade Runner is the most genius usage of flashback edit I've ever seen in movies, considering it wasn't in the script. It was the perfect iconic moment to pick. The Vangelis musical cue, the fade in and out as if it's a distant memory, right after the audio recording and before CGI Rachael scene. Works for both fans who watched the original and newbies who haven't. I got teared up when I watched the movie for the first time in the theater. I hope more franchise sequels do something like this, like Star Wars, MCU, Harry Potter...

[@ChazUBCS]

WonPorky I hadn’t seen the first BR so I totally agree. Hearing her voice first and then seeing the flashback was perfect for anyone who has seen BR or had not. I still felt and knew that Racheal was obviously an important person to Deckard without even seeing the original BR. Masterful...

[@Emoerk13]

The flash back scenes of Rachel are all cgi

[@clayflix9569]

It’s also kind of a brag about how good the effects are. The filmmakers are so confident that the CGI holds up under scrutiny that they show you footage of the real Sean Young to compare it with. Good thing the effect turned out as incredible as it did :)

[@RustinChole]

The lighting alone. One of the best scenes of any movie ever.

[@Gar96229]

“You love pain; pain reminds you the joy you felt was real.”

[@CegeRoles]

*_I know what's real._* Such a great fucking line and a powerful delivery, considering how much he's seen and done over the course of his life.

[@ChazUBCS]

CegeRoles it was like he was trying to believe his own words, knowing they maybe, Wallace was right and that Deckard was a replicant. Wallace trying to mind fuck him and Deckard doing his best to ignore it, but he can’t.

[@TonyTylerDraws]

K says the same thing

[@nncproductionsinc.4077]

"Off-world, I have everything I need to make you talk." Wow. Chilling.

[@singletona082]

And yet no matter what torture wouldh ave happened? Wallice in this moment already put Deckard through more than any person should ever have to go through.

[@TonyTylerDraws]

They talk about the Off World colonies as a paradise too

[@emmadabdelkrim3073]

And all it cost you was EVERYTHING

[@foreverred105]

I actually was on edge when I first saw this scene. I thought something bad was going to happen to Deckard. What a masterpiece Blade Runner 2049 really is.

[@singletona082]

Something bad did happen to him. It just wasn't physical.

[@foreverred105]

@@singletona082 I hear you

[@ajwaddanwarr3409]

Her eyes were green, that one line spoke volumes.

[@RyansChannel0203]

Leto has less scenes in this movie than in Suicide Squad. If Wallace can make such a huge impression with just two scenes (in a 2 and a half hour movie, might I add), why the hell couldn't they do shit with the Joker when they had more scenes with him?

[@dalayoo]

Because the writing in suicide squad are freaking trash.

[@daviddacus8168]

Ryan R. I think they could’ve chosen someone better than Jared Leto for this role

[@crhettbuttler1]

Who would you chose?

[@RyansChannel0203]

@@daviddacus8168 It was originally going to be David Bowie, but I honestly think Leto was perfectly casted as Wallace.

[@igkgigoh]

He wasn't advertised as THE character in the movie, the movie was amazing, he didn't have to fill enormous shoes and well, Marilyn Joker Manson was badly directed. Ryan's Channel Really?! Holy shit.. He was already amazing as Tesla.

[@PhantomLantern2814]

Are we just not going to discuss the lack of an uncanny valley with 1982 Sean Young? Like there’s no cracks. Rogue One had a bigger budget and yet Tarkin and Leia somehow look worse

[@rorschach36]

Warrior Studios Don't forget JL and its 300 million dollar budget and they couldn't remove a goddamn mustache properly

[@PhantomLantern2814]

jean carlo cardenas carrillo I don’t blame that entirely on them. Cavill grew the stache out for Mission Impossible 6 and when reshoots came around for JL, paramount wouldn’t let him shave it, so they had to digitally remove it. Really they needed more time, but WB wouldn’t postpone the release date. From what I’ve seen, they fixed it for blu ray and digital release

[@flippert0]

I think, there is a tiny bit of uncanny valley here, just the right amount so Deckard would reject fake Rachael. Uncanniness was completely absent in the scene where Joi and Mariette merge (despite completely CGI as well). Proof that the VFX did a very good job and everything was completely intentional.

[@Seancunnuningham01]

Agreed

[@kurtrivero368]

flippert0 Erm, Joi and Marriette were never meant to *completely* merge in that scene on a visual level.

[@DavidJackRabbit]

The pure venom in Nianders Voice when he says "Oh, I have millions."

[@thenewords6854]

I DID DIE IN TEARS WHEN I SAW RACHAEL IN THE CINEMA.

[@Moooras]

The Newords try to survive Star Wars Rogue One, scene when Leia appears.

[@ChazUBCS]

@@Moooras worst cgi ever, her and Tarkan.

[@rowhaus5478]

This scene is literal perfection. The lighting, cinematography, dialogue and performances are just phenomenal.

[@Howlingburd19]

Music, too

[@robotorch]

To synthesize a couple of earlier comments, THIS SCENE IS one of the best performances Harrison Ford has ever given, and IT IS SAD that people ignored this movie, because it is a masterpiece. Gosling, Bautista, Leto, Hoeks, and Wright were all top notch, too Deakins and Villeneuve are just on another level

[@Bluemgwes]

My jaw dropped to the floor right when I saw Rachael's silhouette, but then my jaw touched the ground when I saw the CGI work of masking Sean Young's face on the body double. Brilliant scene and this film was horrendously overlooked.

[@Zombiesnyder13]

This movie was basically made for Roger Deakins

[@rickdeckard1075]

i wonder if this scene was a big FU to sean young....

[@AngelofMusic04]

And then he finally won.

[@desirereleased3423]

Rick Deckard everyone seems to think Scott outed Young for this film when ppl don’t realize he brought her on board to work with Denis and train the body double on how to perfect Rachael’s movements and facia ticks

[@rickdeckard1075]

not Scott, the writers

[@syko567890]

"It's very clever to keep yourself empty of information, and all it cost you was...everything." Damn, he got ROASTED

[@mikebasil4832]

It’s quite amazing how Deckard can remain strong enough with just three small sentences against Wallace. Especially “I know what’s real.” which feels very powerful. That’s how superb an actor Harrison Ford is. 👏🏻

[@mikenorth231]

I love this movie, the music, emotion, atmosphere. Amazing abstract imagery

[@oscarsucre9059]

"Oh, I have millions!" Pure and hard nihilism.... So actual for the time we live in

[@KokBurak]

go learn what nihilism is smooth brain

[@braidonbowman320]

Both Ford and Leto give exceptional performances in this scene especially Leto he actually did his scenes blind to truly get into character. Thats what I call fucking dedication!!

[@HerculeDevantrien]

Weirdest 30 Seconds to Mars music video ever.

[@ravenbone3028]

I laughed at Wallace's threat of torture so hard that I scared my dad. The threat rings hollow as he already inflicted the worst sort of cruelty on Deckard but was too dumb to realize that. Notice the way Deckard holds her hand, how he can't look at her when he says "Her eyes were green." to avoid that lost expression on her face. How he turned away because he couldn't stand to see her die a second time even though Rachel 2.0 is an imitation. He loved her so much. It what makes the sequence so great.

[@ravenbone3028]

Very true. Once off world, rescue is impossible due to the vastness of space and the very real possibility that the torture site would be on a planet/space station known only to Wallace. Given the tech shown in this film, it may be possible to make the torture indefinite. And you bring up a good point, Caesar. Maybe Deckard never lost his cool because he still had hope that Joe (Officer K) was out there.

[@wikipediaintellectual7088]

Please read up on the Dark Eldar if you think physical torture couldn't be any worse than this.

[@StormsongK]

Real, but an act of desperation. He knows he had the better shot by emotionally manipulating Deckard, and now he has to fall back on something as banal as physical torture, which has a significantly worse chance of being effective on him.

[@ravenbone3028]

Warhammer 40k? *fist bumps

[@ravenbone3028]

That's my point...Denis shows us it's only gonna be downhill from here. But Wallace only makes his threats vague... trapped in a twisted VR simulation forever like Vault 112 from Fallout (based on a Twilight Zone ep, btw)? Relentless campaign to break him physically? Luckily, we don't get the concrete answer. We know things are real from our experiences and others' experience corroborates ours. What if that reassurance wasn't there? What if artificiality meets and supplants the authentic? What would you do then? Body horror is not the only horror is all, man. The not knowing is the scariest.

[@brandontrinidad9091]

3:25 seeing Sean young in the sequel gives me chills It’s great seeing her back

[@tennaj1367]

Every time I re-watch 2049 I usually rewind that part at least three times. And also (SPOLER ALERT !ALERT! ahead ) When he meets his baby girl! That part gets me every time. 😥 What a GREAT movie ! 👏👏

[@scientist1417]

It's like watching art

[@paulod27]

That's because it is art my dear.

[@naylik2562]

it's like watching a movie

[@eltifiko-bj5si]

@@naylik2562 Not a common one...

[@MitchyBoi03]

Brilliant acting by Leto.

[@6400loser]

This scene haunts me. Thinking about how decades from now, I might be an old broken man, and someone shows me the love of my life as I remember them...

[@singletona082]

I remembered my grandad after my grandmother died. A vibrant man full of life and love and one of the brightest souls i'd ever known effectivly died when she did. No matter what torture could be cooked up. Deckard has already been through the worst that they have.

[@jpebrz]

All you gonna have to do is open her Instagram and see one of her earlier photos

[@lucanhenrique7457]

this scene was so dark and melancholic. this whole movie is a masterpiece

[@tennaj1367]

100% correct!

[@Kyle-nd7gb]

Top 5 film of the decade

[@ROCKSTAR3291]

This has to be the most convincing CGI ever produced. I was like "HOW ?"

[@generalralph6291]

An angel... made again with the same shoulder pads... for you!

[@kevlonk]

This use of shadow and the ripple effects in this scene reminded me a lot of Marlon Brando in Apocalypse Now.

[@GoddyofWar]

Probably one of the most evil examples of emotional blackmail you will ever see in film.

[@user-bb3tl8ow8c]

Great acting in my opinion and the lady is really stunning.

[@NorekXtreme]

"I know what's real" - Perfect line, perfectly delivered by Mr. Ford. Just... perfection.

[@nicholasmaude6906]

Jared Letto always seems to play creepy roles.

[@Hariseldon477]

Nicholas Maude Like Joker? Not always

[@ryanlcordova]

4:45 he almost looks back, but then realizes he won't be able to handle what he'll see,

[@georgeofhamilton]

It must stink to be that replicant, knowing the moment she failed to convince Deckard that she was done for.

[@MKaufman850]

I love the differences between Wallace and Tyrell. The way each of them perceives their creations is so different, but either viewpoint is very plausible. And even though Tyrell is the nicer of the two, one could easily argue that he's far more villainous than Wallace is. These are the two greatest science fiction films ever made.

[@ty814]

One is a villain Odin another is villain Zeus. I think now you can measure the outcome when you imagine these scenario. Zeus in myth is sometimes arrogant ,start cursing or bring calamities also he can be the divine. But at that place Odin will be the one who always seeks to know secrets and knowledge also he breeds on war and magic. Both these myths are king of gods of their own pantheon , both gives birth to powerful gods and demi-gods. But Odin is some what more of a scheming guy as being god. He knows in Ragnarok he will die along with very powerful sons but still he needs to fight Ragnarok and also he will re-create the earth soliders who died and staying in Valhalah to die fighting again. Here Zeus is Tyrell but Wallece is Odin.

[@shaniblack9697]

i could play the first twelve seconds on loop forever

[@trixxarpar4241]

"And all it cost you... was everything" Beautiful line, perfectly delivered. Applicable to many things in real life as well.

[@rorschach36]

I hope on the standalone Batman films, Jared Leto has a similar scene with Ben Affleck taunting him the same way he does in this movie.

[@alexman378]

Seems like we’re never getting this unfortunately...

[@gooseisloose6908]

@@alexman378 We just might. Jared Leto has been confirmed for the Snyder Cut. There's still a future!

[@hamz54321]

Dude you called it, Snyder cut has exactly that

[@GARGANTUANMASKEDFISH]

0:55 Oh hey, it's the Darth Plagueis music.

[@davecrupel2817]

This was absolutely incredible to see in IMAX..... Those yellow deus ex-esque ripple effects completely hypnotized me....and that soundtrack...

[@Freezorgium]

It is very Human Revolution isn't it

[@Ironhandjohn]

Rachael v. 2.0 didn't blink once in the entire scene.

[@kurade1096]

MORBIUS !!!

[@busydad4858]

This film is so economical and well edited. Apart from K, Deckard, Joi, Joshi, Luv and Mariette most of the characters are only in 1-2 scenes, including Wallace, and yet it feels very balanced and like each character even if they are essentially making a cameo has had their own individual impact on the narrative and advanced the storyline in a memorable way to make “their scene” important. Not one line of filler, nor a single frame wasted.

[@georgeofhamilton]

I love the way Wallace talks.

[@mosqa7802]

I like how the water reflections are straight behind mr wallace

[@GM-kp7yw]

Deckard refused because he knew Wallace's true nature- deceit, treachery, megalomania, and lies. Giving Deckard Rachel's replica was like a Trojan Horse, and Deckard saw this through. Deckard knew Wallace cared about one thing- his daughter, and he will go any length to get her. And despite he never saw her, he decided to protect her no matter what, because he cared for her, and with little to no chance of happening if not for K, always wanted to see her.

[@diamondcreepah3210]

I love how Rachael shows flinches in her facial expressions, almost like a chat bot trying to mimic emotions

[@Ravedaze.]

Every scene I see now of Wallace I imagine David Bowie in his place

[@TheFluffyDuck]

This is as far as I am concerned the first real uncanny valley artificial human. My god it’s near perfect.

[@AnjanaBSubba]

Wallace had very little screentime in the whole movie but every time he was on screen I felt like this person is NOT a human being. He was like some unnatural inhumane entity who wants to create his own perfect living creatures who live and die by his command. He wants to be god incarnate. Everything about Wallace screamed intimidating and against nature herself. During this part when he touched Deckard's hand, I felt scared for him. Like he will kill anything that's not perfect in his eyes. So....demonic.

[@Project2025WILLRUINYOURLIFE]

might be why they gave him the darkened eyes, to imply he has no soul. holograms and replicants are at times shown as having darkened eyes possibly for the same reason.

[@MisterMason66]

This movie is so good it hurts to watch because you know it's going to end at some point and you don't want it to. Like love.

[@Goatboysminion]

It broke my Heart seeing Sean Young as Rachel again. I fell for her the first time I saw her as well.

[@samkresil6011]

And somehow this is the scene moment of Jared Leto in this film.

[@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168]

"More joy then" Summoning the Rachael clone, who just like Joi was designed to make it's selected user feel loved. Whilst K and Joi had a genuine relationship partially because of K's desire to feel important (as well as loved) and K had the free will to buy Joi because she was a product free for anyone, Deckard and the Rachael clone don't have a relationship and the clone is just forced upon him (Deckard had the will to reject it, but still). Deckard longs for love but he knows the difference between love and manipulation disguised as love, whilst K longs for love enough to convince himself that Joi was capable of loving him individually and not just an AI designed to love him.

[@jessevee95]

“...she wasn’t a lesbian...”

[@Levi_Skardsen]

Five minutes of unfathomable cruelty.

[@TonyTylerDraws]

Wallace tortures Deckard with, in his words "more joy"

[@stefanfilipovits21]

It really is indescribably cruel. I’m not sure I could do what Deckard did.

[@SanosEdge]

Tyrell died without sight, yet Wallace was blind his entire life. Deckard refusing Rachael's clone was agonizing for him and a masterstroke of defiance. I realize now Wallace's anger was for a "human" defied him and having the temerity to call him out over an oversight shattered his ego since gods, as Wallace sees himself, do not make mistakes.

[@yamato6114]

Anyone notice that the Rachel clone looks ‘off’ in small ways? Especially since she was a digital creation placed over a placeholder actress. You can instantly tell it’s not Sean Young. Her walk, the way she moves, it feels ‘wrong’. She looks like Rachel, but Deckard knows she isn’t. Nothing can bring the Rachel he loved back.

[@gianlozano102]

"Her eyes were green." Wallace: Do I look like I know what green is?

[@uscman]

While I enjoyed Jared Leto as Wallace, it will never change how depressing and annoying it is knowing that Denis Villenueve wanted to get David Bowie to play the character and how amazing that would’ve been. As the role would fit David like a glove! Especially seeing a musician as incredible as him onscreen with the amazing Harrison Ford! RIP David Bowie...

[@stefanfilipovits21]

Omg that would’ve been awesome!!!! I had no idea. That is something I’d have loved to see.

[@andreydiaz6812]

Every background music in this film takes me to the future

[@JohnSmith-sd4mn]

And all it cost you was everything

[@forrestgumball]

You're a big guy 3:15

[@b.c.s.o4169]

was getting caught part of your plan?

[@uscman]

B.C.S.O of course!

[@user-fs9ko6wg2o]

4:27 the shadow shows his disappointment.... wow

[@stefanfilipovits21]

This is Deckard’s “Last Temptation of Christ” moment.

[@Lonequacker]

Even though I don't believe the theory I do like how this scene still leaves the possibility of Deckard being a replicant. The way Wallace mentions how their love was manufactured and how Deckard himself even has to pause and say "I know what's real"

[@IdgaradLyracant]

More importantly it wouldn't be good business to have a half-breed replicant. Too much political risk. Rep+Rep child = Rep however still is a product. But I have a better interpretation for you. EVERYONE is a replicant because replicants are just lab grown humans. If a replicant could breed, that would be near irrefutable evidence that replicants are just humans, mind you a slave class of genetically engineered humans, but human none the less. The propaganda that Replicants are 'fake humans' would melt away and the resulting uproar would not be pleasant. It strikes me more that Leto's character is trying to validate on his own if it possible for a replicant to breed to see how real the risk is of the general population finding out the real 'truth' of it. Breeding replicants isn't efficient let alone cost effective. Who wants to wait for 18 years for your product to mature before getting optimal use out of it? No it has to be something else driving the nature of this story and the conflict. Proof that humans and replicants are one and the same would shatter the slave empire that Tyrell built. There was a clear reason in the first film the police chief sounded like a southern racist sterotype talking about 'skinjobs' like he would 'dem negros\colored folk'. It is a clear allegory for racism and a slave revolt, the second film cements that even further. The key is realizing people are people, and the second film hammers that home that human = replicant. Was Deckard a replicant? Yes, because everyone is, it's just the slave class gets tampered with more. They get branded as 'fake', grown in a test tube, and enhanced, but just as human as everyone else... just tampered with. That tampering made them a sub-class in society destined for slavery, but their efforts to suppress the slave class ultimately fail time and time again. Replicants could always breed because replicants are just human beings. Only the slave class got tagged and artificially grown with breeding disabled. The idea of a tagged replicant, the slave class, somehow having the defect or sabotage to enable breeding like the free replicants ('humans') would be a nightmare. Could have been Tyrell trying to make amends by destroying the very empire he helmed, if not built himself. Think Westworld's Ford in a sense. Leto's character is in the dark on how that 'feature' gets turned on and off and if it got out, as I said above, it would end their industry of slavery.

[@benbastianiartmusic1421]

The flashback of Rachael at the start was just as impactful as the CGI Sean Young to me. The swell of music, slow motion, fading in and out adds so much weight. I'm assuming it was added in so people unfamiliar with the original movie got a glimpse of Sean Young to compare to the duplicate they were about to see. But regardless, it works so well.

[@tobyduarte9849]

4:33 Leto's look upon hearing of his failure is magnificent.