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@parfaitsyrup3 жыл бұрын
Ok
@bigkidrant33 жыл бұрын
wow im here early
@JamesSheldonUnofficial3 жыл бұрын
Ok
@MissMocha3 жыл бұрын
Ok
@faithofJ3 жыл бұрын
The
@bagusamartya53253 жыл бұрын
"How can she login to Gmail if she isn't aware of herself" It might be related to the procedural/episodic memory thing. She isn't aware of her identity, but her body typed in the login credentials she has always used, like how muscle memory are
@lordofthelandsquids3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I agree with this, I find that I (and probably most everyone) can open my phone's PIN without looking, or occasionally automatically type passwords when presented with a text entry field without even thinking about it. It was probably so natural for her to just type it out, no extra thought needed!
@jessl19343 жыл бұрын
Dude, is your name really Bagus? That's the best name, I love it!
@Greenteabook3 жыл бұрын
Your fingers "remember" your password or friends old phone number, but your brain can't say the combo with speech.
@Reinnemann23 жыл бұрын
@@Greenteabook yup, it's the same thing with Alien Hand Syndrome. The left and right hemispheres of the brain control the opposite side of the body but one hemisphere is responsible for speech where the other is not. It's kind of scary to think that there are 2 very real personalities that only work together thanks to the superhighway of nerves called the corpus callosum.
@snail41773 жыл бұрын
yeah honestly, i remember most of my passwords based off my muscle memory typing off my keyboards
@adultcool23953 жыл бұрын
I think that the disappearances corresponding with when she started new jobs is super important. That can be a super stressful change, and for people who dissociate due to trauma, stress can result in dissociating and going on "autopilot" to protect themselves. Her tendency to appear close to bodies of water could indicate that she found water comforting or safe. Maybe had good memories associated with it. Regardless, I hope she's safe.
@xSwordLilyx3 жыл бұрын
@@talkgoodenglish7500 more than decent theory, no explanation for the submersion however
@randomtinypotatocried3 жыл бұрын
As someone who does dissociate due to PTSD, mine gets worse the more stress I'm under, especially if it's due to a new change in my life. That pattern of her disappearancing when she starts a new job definitely felt familiar
@alwaystired13 жыл бұрын
@@randomtinypotatocried similar experience here, I agree
@upumpkin3 жыл бұрын
The more stressuful a situation, the bigger the chance dissociative disorder symptoms will worsen. - A DID system
@anomalymon3 жыл бұрын
We're a multiple system and although we don't have DID/OSDD or amnesia, we do experience dissociation mostly adjacent to DP/DR. We were actually actively able to see how stress from working affected our system, we were all stressed and no one wanted to use the body because of how working affected our body and mind. I could honestly see someone prone to amnesia-related dissociation could get that triggered. I could also understand someone not realizing that's a trigger, we only realized it because we don't have amnesia and a few of us spoke up about how this was hurting us.
@Cheshire_Cat1373 жыл бұрын
This might be a bit insensitive, but considering that both of her fugue states ended with her waking up in bodies of water, it's likely that she's dead and is in a river or lake. However, it can't be said for certain that she's dead, she could still be out there.
@tesmat12433 жыл бұрын
@@blackice000 - Hannah Upp
@yurifan30003 жыл бұрын
yeah in the first disappearance she was found face down, i think she's dead
@PeachysMom3 жыл бұрын
I mean, her clothes were found on a Caribbean beach. She went into the ocean.
@beefandmustardgaming6663 жыл бұрын
Maybe a shark ate her or somn. That'd explain why she hasn't been seen since 4 years.
@sandrafaith3 жыл бұрын
I hope she's alive, but it really doesn't look good. (Unfortunately, this was my first thought too.)
@Jake766673 жыл бұрын
8:42 you can’t convince me she is still alive. she literally walked outside during a intense storm that killed thousands of people. it’s safe to say that she’s long gone
@moonbased77963 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s true since Hurricane Irma is a powerful storm and if she was in a state then it’s likely that she is long gone and if she is gone then I hope her body can be found.
@Lawnmower737 Жыл бұрын
She didn’t walk out during the storm, she walked out between the storms and drowned in the ocean.
@whyismycumpink Жыл бұрын
@Lawnmower737 well if she stayed in the fugue state long enough she would've been in the second hurricane, and likely would've died
@alakazamlover49088 ай бұрын
we can hope maybe she got to a last-ship off the island, but thats the ONLY way i see her being alive....because otherwise, would a body not have been found? i mean maybe it could've been tossed into the ocean....
@yeontantheman23333 жыл бұрын
she was one of the primary teachers at my school the year she went missing. she was honestly one of the most caring and kind people and this seeing her in this context is so disturbing but I'm glad it being covered because more attention needs to be brought to this case and others like her
@howtoliveonearthYT3 жыл бұрын
Why..
@yeontantheman23333 жыл бұрын
@@howtoliveonearthYT why what ?
@katsicin52643 жыл бұрын
She seems really seeet :(
@akashbhullar3 жыл бұрын
okay.
@howtoliveonearthYT3 жыл бұрын
@@yeontantheman2333 Why does more attention need to be brought to this case? It seems like an extremely rare condition...and if anyone could've prevented this it was her family..
@WeegeeSlayer1233 жыл бұрын
Imagine finding someone you care about after they go missing for a long time, only for them to disappear again, and then AGAIN.
@Turtleproof3 жыл бұрын
I don't have to, my fiancee had a similar condition where she would become someone else, go to bad places, and return in a panic.
@kingtal993 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a very frustrating situation.
@classicpinball98733 жыл бұрын
refusing the ankle brace was a dumb move imo. “Yeah I know I might lose awareness and disappear at any time but I’m not gonna wear this mildly inconvenient ankle brace that would find me within a day”
@beautifulbeaner3 жыл бұрын
@@classicpinball9873 yeah that was really dumb she really should’ve thought it through instead of pushing it off
@classicpinball98733 жыл бұрын
@@beautifulbeaner on second thought she might’ve had more than just the condition in the video that made her refuse help. I’m sure she downplayed what happened to her friends as well, so no one knew how serious it was. But her mother was pretty involved in the search so I’m not sure why she wasn’t concerned beforehand either
@user-uq3du4dq5k3 жыл бұрын
Why does everyone ignore the fact that both her and the mother were drawn to the water. It’s right there in our faces. Both of her fugue states brought her to the water and the 3rd time she was on an island- completely surrounded by water. And if you pause and read her mother’s story her mother was strangely drawn to the water to in her fugue state and questioned why she went to the water and why she felt so calm when she was near the waters. Not to mention Hannah often go to the beach when she wasn’t in her fugue state.
@CrankyBoots3 жыл бұрын
Moana but with amnesia
@krthecarguy51503 жыл бұрын
@@CrankyBoots "What can I say except... Wait, what was it again?"
@jaedogg78363 жыл бұрын
The mother is telling a story, we can't really rely on it for evidence. Not to mention it just seems like hannah is doing drugs. If I had any money I'd bet her entire fugue thing is a result of drug usage.
@subtleusername54753 жыл бұрын
@@blackice000 awful song
@P-P-Panda3 жыл бұрын
She’s secretly a mermaid
@pingasatchi92473 жыл бұрын
This is terrifying. She should’ve agreed to the ankle bracelet. I’m sure they could’ve found a way to make it discreet if that’s what she was worried about…
@NanoGamingGamer3 жыл бұрын
She is faking it. She didn't agree to the ankle bracelet because she wants attention.
@gideonlew3 жыл бұрын
@@NanoGamingGamer if i was found in a river face down id agree to get it for my own safety
@Haiylin3 жыл бұрын
@@NanoGamingGamer ok Dr Anime profile picture
@Magikarpador3 жыл бұрын
@@NanoGamingGamer i dont think most people would be comfortable being tracked constantly and having a visible reminder of that. especially for someone that had such a large span of time between occurences. and if she wanted attention you think shed have showed up by now
@KaiSub3 жыл бұрын
@@NanoGamingGamer That's a fucked up assumption to make about someone who's currently missing, and presumably dead.
@kevlarcardhouse252 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, these stories are scarier than any kind of murder or freak accident stories - the ones that remind you that our intelligence, our personality and our memories are all performed by a vulnerable piece of meat that can malfunction at any moment and the person that we think we are can just cease to exist.
@ssnowstarr4985 Жыл бұрын
As someone with severe mental health issues, yes, it's scary. Not in a "mentally ill people are dangerous" way, but in that it's hard to live in a mind less reliable than most
@sofiacamposdelima16835 ай бұрын
This was terrifying, thank you
@sommerberry36122 жыл бұрын
Hanna Upp was my little sister teacher and i would conistantly go to her class simply to talk to my sister but she was so sweet and i really hope that one day they at least find her body or find out what happen to her. This was so sad for the entire island that she lived on bc she was so sweet and such a good teacher. I miss her
@nickcolman35993 жыл бұрын
She goes into fugue states twice, both ending with her in water and then decides not to get an ankle bracelet and move to an island LITERALLY SURROUNDED BY WATER.
@FroddyWho_3 жыл бұрын
sussy
@Scp716creativecommons3 жыл бұрын
One with sharks, her habit if dropping her things, and entering the water, is very worrying.
@nevaeh91253 жыл бұрын
@@FroddyWho_ ...baka
@raquelnavarrete7763 жыл бұрын
Lmao I was thinking the same thing, I thought it was really dumb to reject the ankle bracelet because it’s literally for her own sake
@therippedemon3 жыл бұрын
If I found out I had this disorder I would DEMAND I have multiple tracking devices and whatnot on me lol. I think rejecting the ankle bracelet was incredibly dumb.
@Grantofglyn3 жыл бұрын
"Why did she disappear when starting a new job?" Perhaps, instead of stress, it was her mind being unable to adapt to the new jobs. After all, a new job is a pretty big thing for most people - new routines, people, locations, _procedures_ . Perhaps these changes were enough to cause a confusion deep within her mind, and in turn, enough to trigger a fugue state. I'm no psychologist but that doesn't sound so far fetched to me.
@Danflave3 жыл бұрын
I am a psychologist, and what you're saying sounds very plausible!
@Grantofglyn3 жыл бұрын
@@Danflave thank you :) always thought I had a decent mind for psychology, at least an open mind, being someone who's dealt with their own issues. Maybe I'll do some looking into courses and whatnot.
@bagandbroad3 жыл бұрын
Honestly yeah, people really underestimate how stressful that is.
@Jujudeze223 жыл бұрын
I wondered why new teaching jobs are linked to her disappearances.
@NotoriouslyNoah3 жыл бұрын
Also, everytime she dissappeared, it always happened at a start of a school year. Around August and September. It makes sense.
@thewall11793 жыл бұрын
There's a lot that I'd blame on Jorge, but I'd never blame him for this.
@adonaiyah21963 жыл бұрын
And i would this time
@RobwithoneB3 жыл бұрын
This is probably the best comment ever.
@Itsuki-e9m3 жыл бұрын
I love this comment so much
@leomith43283 жыл бұрын
@@adonaiyah2196 *N O* ~
@lordken333 жыл бұрын
I hope this gets pinned😂
@mothbox89853 жыл бұрын
I experienced a fugue state when I was 21. It was a horrifying experience - total black out. I had some childhood trauma buried deep. It's been almost ten years and I've done lots of therapy to help me build skills to stay out of a dissociative state. So thankful to be here and grounded.
@DXe4Ea5 ай бұрын
Did something trigger it? I'm curious. Thanks for sharing, anyway ❤
@vinny1602 жыл бұрын
My father disappeared in 1965. It was a relatively normal day. He left the gas station that he owned to pick up lunch for his employees. He never returned. He remained missing for one year, eventually being found in California....thousands of miles away from our home in South Louisiana. He swore until his death that he had no recollection of what had transpired in the year that he was missing. Could this story provide an answer??? Some understanding??? Perhaps...thank you for sharing.
@CellarDoorx062 жыл бұрын
Wow. Glad he was found.
@XiomaraThaGoddessMeow2 жыл бұрын
Missing for a year? Not harmed? Lol.... Erm, I think he may have pulled a fast one...
@nineteenfortyeight Жыл бұрын
Your dad was a liar
@DaParoleOfficer Жыл бұрын
@@XiomaraThaGoddessMeowThe fact he owned a business and apparently didn't repent from his belief about having amnesia until he died suggests that this isn't just a case of "man flees family".
@hoodnewsdaily99639 ай бұрын
He was with his second wife
@pixelplantz3 жыл бұрын
she shows a patterns of losing her memory and somehow finding herself to bodies of water. she could have fell into one of her episodes, went to a body of water, and drowned... this is such a tragic story.
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache3 жыл бұрын
The human brain is very complex and I was never even aware of the existence of fugue states until now, it's actually frightening.
@Innocuous65183 жыл бұрын
You again
@gustavjohansson85623 жыл бұрын
BEGONE DEMON!!
@PillowSensei3 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to expect you in the comments section of everything I watch.
@kai63183 жыл бұрын
You, me, and Justin Y. We all seem to watch the same content.
@Yam-lu3ti3 жыл бұрын
This dude
@lukeslayer3 жыл бұрын
How sad, she was so young and had so much life ahead of her. Mental health is unbelievably fragile it's terrifying. I hope she's at peace wherever that may be.
@LandingBully3 жыл бұрын
We do not care
@hm-hz7gn3 жыл бұрын
If she only had a ankle bracelet.. kinda dumb she denied it.
@toumabyakuya3 жыл бұрын
@@LandingBully Dude, why did you said something like this?.
@bananaphone53463 жыл бұрын
@@toumabyakuya because he doesn’t care I suppose 🤦♂️
@toumabyakuya3 жыл бұрын
@@bananaphone5346 Then he could have saved that for himself.
@thatuberrican87452 жыл бұрын
It was foolish of her not to accept the ankle monitor, if only to make her easier to find when it came to a medical condition she had no control over.
@6lacksappho456 Жыл бұрын
I do feel for her in that regard though, she just wanted to feel normal.
@nineteenfortyeight Жыл бұрын
Because she was faking it
@DXe4Ea5 ай бұрын
@@nineteenfortyeighthow do you know it?
@magicalkatze5 ай бұрын
@@nineteenfortyeight Why would she do that? Also I don't think this is something that get easily diagnosed.
@stertcraft3 жыл бұрын
makes us remember the fact that our memories is the only thing that makes us, us.
@nicholasbstone3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Which is why the Mandela Effect is so disturbing.
@TheDigitalApple3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the time that one dude was in the search party that was looking for him after he was missing for a few hours!
@wt52843 жыл бұрын
@@satisacro my god. I was expecting an Onion article but wow. Sometimes life is strange.
@eebu40533 жыл бұрын
@@blackice000 bfale braaap beapp
@saltyduckie3 жыл бұрын
@@blackice000 you’ve commented this everywhere and i can’t help but feel that it is extremely disrespectful and distasteful on a video about someone’s disappearance and likely death.
@KC-il6we3 жыл бұрын
@@saltyduckie thank you Weird that it has so many likes too.. wth?
@fusionfountain3 жыл бұрын
@@saltyduckie BRRRrrrooorrrrp
@Jonny5Fails3 жыл бұрын
She went to a beach during a hurricane, and we're throwing around things like "committed suicide" "got lost," "*joined a native tribe*." Isn't the simplest answer that she was killed by one of the two hurricanes and washed out to sea?
@Roadent12413 жыл бұрын
Still technically the same one? She knew it was dangerous and still went? I want to assume common sense doesn't go out of the window but considering the other times she was found in water... Brains are very strange. All we can do is hope she's OK.
@Power111123 жыл бұрын
@@Roadent1241 it could still be an intentional suicide of some sort
@Roadent12413 жыл бұрын
@@Power11112 I'm not disagreeing with that. Though technically aren't they ALL intentional, even if they don't manage?
@MandenTV3 жыл бұрын
No, she likely just got lost, joined a native tribe and then committed suicide.
@TheMedicatedArtist3 жыл бұрын
An even worse theory: she was washed out to sea and is stranded on an island. Imagine if her memory came back while stranded; it’s terrifying.
@r033cx3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being Hannah Upp with new personality and memories and stubling upon this video on KZbin
@alexanderdesade85543 жыл бұрын
it'd honestly be great if she did, so she could reach out to her family again & so her loved ones know she's still alive
@austindrake34933 жыл бұрын
That would be an interesting premise for a book
@lolalola45853 жыл бұрын
👁️👄👁️
@sammigiordani78783 жыл бұрын
if she did, she probably would wondering wheres this Hannah Upp went
@fixthy65112 жыл бұрын
What if you're Hannah Upp with a new personality watching this video on youtube
@dl11c3 жыл бұрын
Having the dissociative fugue state happen each time at the same general time of year is interesting, Aug. 29, Sept. 3rd, and Sept. 14th
@DaedalusYoung3 жыл бұрын
Might have something to do with when her teaching jobs started.
@YourCrazyOverlord3 жыл бұрын
Considering how she was ALWAYS found in water, it's hard to believe she didn't just enter the fugue state, go for a swim, and never return. I'll bet darn near anything whatever happened the first time happened again, but no boat was there to find her.
@CourtneyCoulson3 жыл бұрын
If everyone knew she had a condition like that, why would she ever be left unattended? The police tracking device sounded like a good idea. If it were me, I'm pretty sure my mum would move in and watch me like a hawk.
@saraaah55963 жыл бұрын
I know, its sad!
@re_i_gn3 жыл бұрын
It's mostly a case of wanting to live a normal life, I'm sure her friends and family did their best to convince her to take appropriate repercussions but I guess she didn't like living like that. Often times people with severe mental illnesses are dismissive of their own disabilities so they try their best to live their life ignoring it.
@noahimuro3 жыл бұрын
@@TheJFKExperience1963 I am so sorry to hear that but you deserve to live. Wish you the best
@noahimuro3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, honestly it was strange that she rejected it
@wanderingwriter12103 жыл бұрын
no way I'm letting the cops track me, but I would definitely make sure a trusted person or persons had a way to track my whereabouts if i was susceptible to this. it almost sounds like she wanted to go missing.
@trader90283 жыл бұрын
14:56 so these fugues not only can make you wonder off and forget who you are, they can make you know so little about yourself that you can change your whole personality. Thats wild
@SG-bp4lg3 жыл бұрын
@@blackice000 Why are you spamming this trash?
@trader90283 жыл бұрын
@@SG-bp4lg wow didn’t know they’re spamming lol
@miriamgazelle93393 жыл бұрын
Damn, maybe she's out there with a different identity and she totally forgot her past life experiences
@trader90283 жыл бұрын
@@miriamgazelle9339 that’s both really interesting and sad
@wolfsta903 жыл бұрын
I kid you not ... My girlfriend of 5 years suffered from something just like this. Her family blamed me and said I was abusing her. Unfortunately I left the situation because her family kept blaming me. Since our breakup I've heard it's gotten significantly worse. This is a real life issue and should not be looked past.
@Roadent12413 жыл бұрын
I assume they ignored it beforehand then. I hope she's OK. And you with your new chapter.
@wolfsta903 жыл бұрын
@ThewhiteRavenx and maybe religion I'm sorry to say.
@mustangnawt13 жыл бұрын
It happened to me too. I’m sorry you lost her because of this. And I’m scared it has continued to happen to her
@superstraight84023 жыл бұрын
Hope they said sorry to you, seeing how it’s clearly still going on without you around. I know no one wants to accept that their kid isn’t “the greatest” human ever, but some parents really need to get a grip and realize their kids aren’t above having issues and stop blaming everyone but their kid for things. Sorry that this family treated you that way.
@notimeforcreativenamesjust30343 жыл бұрын
@@wolfsta90 whats it got to do with religion?
@lady_k55883 жыл бұрын
I've watched other videos of Hannah's story, but they didn't give _nearly_ as much information as you did. Thank you for a great video Jorge!
@howtoliveonearthYT3 жыл бұрын
Yeah this one was able to put me to sleep in 14 minutes
@Ghv5t Жыл бұрын
I once had a friend who had past trauma that caused dissociative episodes and they never knew what the traumatic experience was that caused it and their doctors had said it was likely repressed since it happened in early childhood, so that could be why Hannah couldn’t think of any past trauma. Or it could be from something very normalized in her religious household. (I realize I’ve been speaking about this friend in the past tense but don’t worry they aren’t dead as far as I know they just weren’t very kind to me as a friend and would constantly excuse mental diagnosis to get out of facing consequences when they would act extremely toxic and would never make an effort to treat people like human beings)
@onionbubs386 Жыл бұрын
Even tho it seems like pseudoscience, hypnosis is actually very effective in reviving old memories, even very early in childhood. Tho whether or not reviving those memories is beneficial is up for debate.
@jamiesbooksandstuff3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I feel like she maybe went swimming at the beach. If they found her dress, sandals, and purse at the beach, it would lead me to believe that she had a swimsuit on underneath her dress, which she took off, and then left her belongings in the sand to go swimming, maybe when the hurricane hit. If she got caught up in it, she wouldn’t be anywhere near St Thomas since she’d probably move with it. Forgive me if the dates don’t quite add up though, I’m a little fuzzy on when hurricanes hit. I am also partially leaning towards her committing suicide by drowning herself or something else involving water, but maybe she didn’t realize what she was doing if she was in a fugue state. Or she decided that she didn’t want to live with this disorder anymore. But I feel like, somehow, she ended up in that water.
@ArtisanAsteroid3 жыл бұрын
I feel like that’s the case too. If not,sadly she most likely would’ve come to an end another way.
@72horses753 жыл бұрын
She might not have even knew there was a hurricane coming in that state
@rokronroff3 жыл бұрын
If there was a hurricane inbound, it's highly unlikely that beaches would be open to the public.
@lucydropsopinion53483 жыл бұрын
I agree. I feel like if it weren’t for her history, this would be a closed case drowning. It was right before a hurricane (if I remember) which causes some crazy waves… she could have easily drowned either accidentally or purposely and the hurricane moved her body to a place it’ll never be found. Or she may have gone into a fugue state again… but I doubt she’s still on the island, it’s to small and 50k ppl is really not a lot.
@ScoutSailor3 жыл бұрын
She seems to consistently end up in water in her fugue states, so I agree that she probably went swimming and sadly drown. What a horrible disease.
@TheGamingWolf36503 жыл бұрын
It's odd how nobody recommended her to be watched by a family member/ friend. Even if she declined it should be within reason.
@WobblesandBean3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it should be, but unless you're ruled as mentally unfit by the court, they can't force you to accept that. Hannah was quite mentally fit outside of these episodes, so that was never gonna happen.
@mustangnawt13 жыл бұрын
As someone this has happened to, and as an adult, u can’t be by yourself always. My family does check on me, but I have to work. Feel very bad for her people. Not even knowing where she is
@nomdeplume22133 жыл бұрын
Thats absurd. Ppl cant afford to stop their entire existence to babysit a mentally ill friend nor are they qualified to do so... its not feasible in any way for the vast majority of ppl ESPECIALLY during a hurricane. If my dumbass friend wants to stay in danger and not evacuate during a major natural disaster, im not risking my own life to babysit them... and i wouldn't expect my friends and family to do it for me either.
@Chickyglory3 жыл бұрын
@@nomdeplume2213 You're not wrong in what you're saying but at the same time I wouldn't like to be your friend, sorry
@turquoisecrow45133 жыл бұрын
@@nomdeplume2213 what they’re saying is a real thing and many people do do that actually. It’s called a conservatorship
@yummywaffle12683 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is something I've never seen before. It's crazy what the human brain can do to things that seem so core to a person, like their identity. Nice video.
@StickmanComix3 жыл бұрын
8 hours ago?! What’s happening?
@KitsuHitsuyy3 жыл бұрын
@@StickmanComix he’s probably friends with Jorge or some kind of donor
@FriedIce33 жыл бұрын
@@StickmanComix probably a patreon member, cool
@PleasantGr8ient3 жыл бұрын
@@StickmanComix looks like i'm not the only one who noticed that lol
@yummywaffle12683 жыл бұрын
@@FriedIce3 Yep, I’m a patron.
@cakecrumb0953 жыл бұрын
Wait….It just seems so strange that if Hannah keeps disappearing that her family would let her leave the country and move to a remote island. Wouldn’t they be terrified that she’d get lost in the forest with her condition?
@OffendingTheOffendable3 жыл бұрын
Crazy religious dad I'm sure disowned her for being a "sinner"
@dark_antihero Жыл бұрын
@@OffendingTheOffendable source?
@madelinethomas978 Жыл бұрын
You can’t control grown adults…… what do you mean they “let” her go? She’s an independent adult… you can’t hold her against her will. I work In mental health and I see people literally insane and still can’t “make” them do anything unless they are homicidal or suicidal.
@reddawnstudios2016 Жыл бұрын
Maybe since it was an island, they assumed if she did get lost again, they might be able to find her easily, which unfortunately was not the case.
@rachelhansen2417 Жыл бұрын
@@dark_antiheroit’s mentioned in the video that her dad was homophobic and she was in a few relationships with women
@lxn-p3 жыл бұрын
as someone who goes through fugue states, though not as severe as this case, i can confirm it is terrifying. i have Dissociative Identity Disorder so dissociation is to be expected, but when i "wake up" somewhere and don't remember how i got there, or suddenly not remembering the past few weeks? it's the scariest thing to know that you can't always control your own actions.
@tabbykat8564 Жыл бұрын
dissociative identity disorder isn't real :P
@reid_spencer7 ай бұрын
@@tabbykat8564what do you mean by that?..
@siqxyre84733 жыл бұрын
If she's found again, safe to say she probably shouldn't be starting up any new teaching jobs...
@AxxLAfriku3 жыл бұрын
NO! NO! NO! Many people say I am sick in the head. NOOOO!!!! I don't believe them. But there are so many people commenting this stuff on my videos, that I have 1% doubt. So I have to ask you right now: Do you think I am sick in the head? Thanks for helping, my dear x
@sphinx20773 жыл бұрын
@@AxxLAfriku yes you are ill and I am living in your walls
@daisydaze28863 жыл бұрын
@@AxxLAfriku You ok their?
@peterkeigwin8473 жыл бұрын
@@AxxLAfriku get help
@FMeister943 жыл бұрын
And get an ankle bracelet tracker
@waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa3 жыл бұрын
i feel like there has to be something related to her starting new jobs at new schools that's making her go into fugue states. i wonder if something traumatic happened to her in or around school when she was young that she's been able to successfully repress her whole life but once she was introduced to a new school environment as an adult teacher her fugue states were triggered by the repressed trauma being remembered, then once successfully repressed again she would come out of the fugue state. in other severe dissociative disorders like DID, a similar thing happens where someone encounters a trigger that takes them back to traumatic experiences, and the part of the brain that remembers that trauma will "take over" and cause a dissociative amnesia to prevent the person from remembering that experience. but while she was in this fugue state for the 3rd time there was an accident/misadventure resulting in her death or she was taken advantage of by someone who recognized she was vulnerable and that person caused her death.
@upumpkin3 жыл бұрын
I get dissociative amnesia from being an alter and I'm pretty sure you're correct. It might have been a new traumatic event or a flashback trigger that didn't turn off fast enough, either way, it must have been something truly horrible for such strong loss of memory.
@ArtisanAsteroid3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if this is really relevant but I felt like I had to share it. I had my first ever (and hopefully last) episode of psychosis a few days ago and within it I was sharing a body with my own characters. I wasn’t fully or possibly not at all in control of my emotions and actions. I remember it and it was just crazy.
@josephmatthews76983 ай бұрын
Sounds like an episode of Dr housd.
@moonbased77963 жыл бұрын
Man I can’t imagine what her mom was feeling, Cause imagine loosing your daughter three times and you don’t know where she went the third time
@nineteenfortyeight Жыл бұрын
Maybe she does know
@Umekopyon3 жыл бұрын
Was a real shock to see this show up in my recommended on KZbin - I went to the same college as her (she was a year ahead of me) and I've never really seen anyone talk about her case outside of my former schoolmates! Looking forward to hitting the play button on this one, haha.
@beetlebug96523 жыл бұрын
My heart goes out for the poor mother , the stress and hurt that loosing her daughter like this THREE times , having found her before I think it made it worst for her when she couldn't find her again a third time ,I do hope that atleast her body is found to give closure to her family and friends.
@ryan_deakin3 жыл бұрын
This is so scary. It goes to show we as humans cant begin to percieve what we are, and thats humbling
@oSpoken3 жыл бұрын
@@blackice000 very funny I totally died of laughter
@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa3 жыл бұрын
This says a lot about first world capitalism.
@the4tierbridge3 жыл бұрын
@@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa Oh, are people an economic system now?
@homer51033 жыл бұрын
I bet you thought that was deep Posting some garbage like that
@saintessa3 жыл бұрын
@@homer5103 it doesn't even make sense
@nameofthename3 жыл бұрын
if she is still alive, i hope she's out there living her best life. if not, then i hope that she rests peacefully.
@alaliaga59403 жыл бұрын
I can’t express how happy I felt when I just finished the new barelysociable video ft you just to open up my subscription feed to see a new video from you as well!!!
@dromie50593 жыл бұрын
Same!!! I was so excited. We really got spoiled today lol
@strawberrybandage3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for letting me find a new channel to binge lol
@efe_aydal3 жыл бұрын
That was a really interesting topic actually.
@dylhas1 Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen a lot of correlation in missing persons case having amnesia when found. Many of them suffer from bipolar, and one of the weirdest things I’ve noticed is how many of them won’t remember what they were doing but that they needed to find water. Including one case where someone was found missing in the middle of a stream in winter. It’s some strange and scary stuff. My worst nightmare
@jacksoniguessidk50473 жыл бұрын
I never heard of a case like this before. I would've never knew about it without you.
@verdantViridity3 жыл бұрын
Dissociative symptoms may not be hereditary, but trauma can be generational, especially if later generations give the same upbringing (including doctrine) that they themselves had. Dissociative conditions are most often signs of severe childhood trauma, and there are still a lot of causes of trauma that hide in plain sight because people are so used to downplaying the severity of certain parenting practices that inflict lasting psychological damage.
@elleofhearts84713 жыл бұрын
plus doesnr the brain sometimes suppress memories in order to "wall off" trauma? traumatic events can also cause memory problems or cause gaps in memory specifically revolving around the traumatic event in question.
@verdantViridity3 жыл бұрын
@@elleofhearts8471 That's what dissociation is. In its most basic form, it distances you from being mentally present during traumatic moments, sometimes becoming your main response to stress from then on. Some forms can happen consciously, others more often are involuntary reflexes. The more basic, the more likely it can happen voluntarily to cope. In its simplest case, you respond to stressful or trauma-related stimuli by suppressing your sense of emotion-- in my case, it's also caused a few rare periods where instead of emotion, the language center of my brain shut off for a while. Then there's dissociative amnesia. You block out the traumatic memory. You literally cannot handle the ordeal of this trauma, even if it's physically survivable. So, it never happened. There's just a blind spot in your memory. A missing day, week, month, year of your life, like it never happened. Even if someone else tells you what happened, all you can recall is being told about it. Sometimes, the catch is that you're still triggered by things associated with the blocked memory, and you may not realize it's a trigger. You might just think you have an irrational phobia. Some people even lose the memory of being triggered, so you don't even know what the trigger was and therefore can't try avoiding it. Sometimes, if the blocked trauma was a chronic situation, it can pretty much cause your memory to have rolling blackouts on and off for the rest of your life. A more self-destructive form of dissociation is depersonalization, which is often coupled by a depressive or manic spike if you're not feeling numbed out. These often happen for shorter spells, but you convince yourself that it doesn't matter how awfully you're suffering if [You] isn't a real person, just someone you made up for escape. In extreme cases, especially common with experiencing physical or sexual violence, the self-detachment becomes so intense that you become your own third-party observer. It's been described as like watching a movie about someone else with no relevance to You The Viewer. Depersonalization can go a few ways. As a trauma symptom, it's rarely alone. More often, it can pair with derealization. It's just as it sounds. Everything feels distant, muffled, like it's all actors and stage sets, or like you're just imagining the world around you, like you're in a dream or a VR. Gaslighting can especially cause this one. The next extreme case would be episodic delusions and/or hallucinations where the brain fills in its own reasoning for that sense of unreality, like it really is a dream, and it can be very hard to break out of without the right antipsychotic even if you're aware that it's happening. Another way it can go is dissociative identity. Even if it's not YOU that this is happening to, you're not equipped for processing this stimulus that aggravates your trauma, so YOU are compartmentalized into different personalities and the memories are divided up according to which facet was fronting (piloting) at the time. YOU can't remember this because that was [You] fronting at the time, therefore that was [You]'s memory, someone other than YOU, and [You] is just one of several cognitive constructs. Not all of them are aware of each other, some one them have internal dialogue with each other, some of their memories are shared, some announce that they'll switch soon while others don't, some are involuntary switched by a trigger. Some of them are manifestations of specific personal aspects or moods like conscience, survival, internalized abuse, childhood innocence, the self YOU aspire to become, the self that family expects YOU to become, etc., and because they're Different People, they're not bound to look like the "system" (YOU as a whole). They can present themselves with different names, genders, appearances, mannerisms and preferences. And they may reintegrate over time, or they may further fracture. The mind is complex and will go through a lot of loopholes if necessary to keep itself running. Sometimes those loopholes are bugs, and sometimes they're features. Sometimes therapy and recovery can rehabilitate a person so the dissociative X or Y isn't so debilitating, but it never goes completely away. You just learn how to manage it and its impact on your life.
@verdantViridity3 жыл бұрын
Dissociation is often a symptom of having felt powerless against a threat, and it's especially common in people who've been in environments where openly breaking down could've escalated that threat.
@ssnowstarr4985 Жыл бұрын
@@verdantViridity as someone who experiences dissociation, you explained this very very well. thank you
@aprendizdecapivara28413 жыл бұрын
Dosent seem like a kidnapping , i think she just wandered off and died of exposure , reminds of the lars mittanks case , after suffering a head injury in a fight he seemed alright , but while alone in a hotel he snapped and became paranoid and whandered into the wilderness never to be found , both very sad and tragic cases.
@aprendizdecapivara28415 ай бұрын
Hey man, you here again?
@adamfrazer51503 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of the truly saddest stories I've heard. To lose control of one's mind, I can't fathom a more terrifying experience. Cheers for covering this Jorge, many thanks 👍🍻
@bestpoubelle53323 жыл бұрын
Entering in passwords could also be an example of procedural memory. There are passwords for accounts I remember how to type out because I've done it thousands of times but I couldn't actually tell you what I'm typing out before I did it.
@KaylaNoelle13 жыл бұрын
She claimed not to have any trauma that would cause her brain to fugue to I guess protect her from that trauma … but religious/spiritual trauma is very real and can be very brutal.
@dreamlandnightmare3 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@Iudicatio3 жыл бұрын
@ahk This is mostly not true. This is a myth that was made up during the Satanic Panic because therapists implanted false memories of "Satanic ritual abuse" in people. When in reality it's actually quite easy to implant a false memory in someone, even an extreme one. If your therapist causes you to "remember" things you didn't remember before, you should be very concerned.
@nessax63663 жыл бұрын
@@Iudicatio why would a therapist plant a false memory? Like what do they gain?
@lainiwakura17763 жыл бұрын
@@nessax6366 Acclaim.
@vetnursejess3 жыл бұрын
@akh agreed I’m not diagnosed with any dissociative disorder but I’ve suffered from trauma since childhood until recently and I have large chunks of my life that I can’t remember. PTSD and other mental illnesses can cause you to block out the memories/not remember too as it’s the brains response when something traumatic happens.
@zgct36483 жыл бұрын
Always love to see that you've uploaded. - Sincerely, Another Jorge
@Ennui_v13 жыл бұрын
Do you pronounce it "Hor-hey" or "George"?
@l.r94433 жыл бұрын
And even more strangely, each time she went missing, it seemed to occur sometime during or near September. Nice informative vid.
@maggiedk3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it could be a trauma anniversary
@fizzy98803 жыл бұрын
Makes me think it’s stress related from starting a new teaching job.
@r.j.penfold3 жыл бұрын
@@fizzy9880 yeah, I noticed that theme in her first two disappearances...
@BizVlogs3 жыл бұрын
As a teacher, the start of the new school year is triggering maybe?
@r.j.penfold3 жыл бұрын
@@BizVlogs I mean I was a student and found it triggering, so idk how teachers feel about it
@MyGoatFloats3 жыл бұрын
Dissociative disorders are so fascinating yet so scary. I cant imagine being dissociated and getting lost like that. Ive dissociated and got lost when i went for walks or at school, but i always found my way back. I hope Hannah is okay
@CinnaRoar3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if this is a common thing, but I don’t care about mysteries and stuff like this I just love your voice. It’s super calming and relaxing
@chumismetabolicfuel62003 жыл бұрын
It’s always a good day when Jorge uploads
@XenKrieg3 жыл бұрын
Factsss
@DaRealEarth13 жыл бұрын
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@arina40303 жыл бұрын
no its not
@DaRealEarth13 жыл бұрын
@@blackice000 I MISS THE RAGE⁉️I MISS THE RAGE⁉️I MISS THE RAGE⁉️I MISS THE RAGE⁉️I MISS THE RAGE⁉️I MISS THE RAGE⁉️I MISS THE RAGE⁉️I MISS THE RAGE⁉️I MISS THE RAGE⁉️I MISS THE RAGE⁉️
@VincentSpongefulvids3 жыл бұрын
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@omegaslash7773 жыл бұрын
*getting ready to sleep* *sees new BlameItOnJorge video* "Yeah, I've got time"
@viderevero13383 жыл бұрын
@DeeJay1210 one of my favorite responses to a bot comment that I’ve found.
@viderevero13383 жыл бұрын
@DeeJay1210 I was complimenting you for a witty response, and you had to downplay it with proving me wrong, with the fact that the earlier comment was as much wit as you could muster.
@octopusbraiin17763 жыл бұрын
10/10 on your production quality. This was super well done!! I hope one day the answers will be found. Also I can confidently say that starting a new teaching job is extremely stressful. A new place, new students, new coworkers, sometimes a new curriculum? Yeah, there is an extreme possibility that Hannah was much more stressed than she was letting on.
@TandaSandaBanda3 жыл бұрын
If I were her Mother, I would’ve never let her out of my sight again! I’d be so worried and anxious all the time for her. I’m surprised she didn’t decide to live with someone or at least try to find ways to make sure she isn’t alone when it happens again…I feel like this could’ve easily been prevented.
@Zoe-tg4dl3 жыл бұрын
the only people who could have prevented it were likely the ones who caused it IMO. i know it says she didn’t suffer from any trauma as a child to cause the disorder, but i bet anything that something happened to her regarding her father/their travels/his work/school.
@glow1815 Жыл бұрын
True but still you can't be and follow Hanna 24/7 where ever she goes. She can just tell you she's going to a store and disappear from there when the her episode kicks in. If this makes sense to you. He episode can kicks in at any time any where. Even we see a pattern only when she starts a new teaching job
@nineteenfortyeight Жыл бұрын
UNLESS, the fugue crap is fake and you just want your lesbian surfer daughter to be happy, and not honor- k1lled by her fanatic dad
@kendrasinterlude Жыл бұрын
I mean they did offer Hannah an ankle monitor but she declined…
@SunyCartoons3 жыл бұрын
Having a disorder like this must be extremely disturbing. Like you start your day out normal, and then suddenly you wake up in a hospital days/weeks later not knowing that much time has passed. I hope she's still somehow alive and safe
@EnbyEnvy6663 жыл бұрын
I experience something similar to this. My lapses in memory/dissociative episodes only last for a couple hours at most, not for days or weeks like Hannah but even those few hours are terrifying, I can't imagine how she would've felt
@ssnowstarr4985 Жыл бұрын
Have you talked to a professional about this? if it's for limited periods of time, it could be DID or another similar disorder
@EnbyEnvy666 Жыл бұрын
@@ssnowstarr4985 thank you for your concern! Due to where I live it’s very hard for me to find a professional that deals with DID within my price range but when speaking with other professionals such as Psychiatrists and Psychologists, they have suggested I do have it, due to already being diagnosed with some of the comorbidities of DID and having some of the symptoms
@ssnowstarr4985 Жыл бұрын
@@EnbyEnvy666 I'm in a very similar situation, so I can sympathize a lot. If you'd like, I'd be happy to talk to you about it and recommend some resources. It's possible you do have DID, or a similar disorder. I myself believe I have OSDD, and am currently seeking a professional who specializes in it
@SpellboundWolf3 жыл бұрын
One would think Hannah's family would put her into an assisted living program with this going on, especially after the 1st disappearance.
@videosbruno3 жыл бұрын
A good case for GPS tracking
@maddyinthemaking3 жыл бұрын
@@aduckofsomesort its not really about a disability. Its about preventing her from going missing again. I wouldn't blame her family for wanting to put her in a good company/group home. If it were me (as in her family) I would go for it fpr her own safety. She obviously can't rely on just herself. Counting on others would help if she went missing and could be found more quickly. Its more for her safety not her disability. She can't control it, like anything else
@madison35143 жыл бұрын
@@maddyinthemaking I’d much rather risk going missing/even potentially getting myself into danger than going into an assisted living facility. What kind of life is that when you’re completely competent and able bodied.
@PoptartParasol3 жыл бұрын
disappearances that happened for less then a month, and then again for less than 3 days? I don't think that deserves a life time sentence to an assisted living facility... especially for someone so young It's nobody's fault, no point in speculating the 'if the parents did this is would do X'. You're pretty much advocating for someone to be locked up for short incidents of fugue states... I disagree with this approach to take a young persons life away for something like this, it would be akin to locking up people who have attempted suicide 'for their own good'. It's reminiscent of how they used to treat mental conditions or odd behavior back then
@maddyinthemaking3 жыл бұрын
@@PoptartParasol its not miniscule. Its a full person loosing their memory and going missing without any knowledge of who they are. What would happen if she surprisingly came home one day but went missing even more frequently and for longer time. If it was your family? Wouldn't that worry you?
@invisible39723 жыл бұрын
Honestly if someone asked me "you're the [insert name] everyone's looking for?" I wouldn't known what to answer either. "Her and her father travelled a lot overseas"/"her belongings were usually found near water" maybe water was a catalyst in her dissapearances? "There's no traumatic events in her life" I bet something happened in those travels (i live in a heavily religious country.. i know the extent those assholes can reach with their actions) but was so normalized in her family/upbringing she honestly couldn't pinpoint it.
@MandenTV3 жыл бұрын
Awww poor you :{
@tentinybees3 жыл бұрын
the last line are my thoughts exactly. I was raised strict Christian and I know first hand how abusive those households can be, and how "normal" it is in that kind of life.
@666_cthulhu Жыл бұрын
i’m surprised more people aren’t talking about this. i can’t imagine the pain of living a double life, knowing your own father doesn’t respect you or your identity. i know she’s most likely dead, but i like to think she’s out there somewhere, alive and well, able to live authentically with people who accept her for who she is.
@SH-bm8yp2 жыл бұрын
So twice, Hannah was drawn to water while in her fugue state. Then we learn that Hannah's mother went into a possible fugue state and also found herself at water. Why does this fugue state seem to make people want to enter the water? That's so creepy. I have a bad feeling that Hannah may have gone to water a third time. Possibly entering the sea during that hurricane. My thoughts and prayers are with her mother and all of her loved ones.
@haniicross2 жыл бұрын
it really seems like suicide. maybe she got stressed with her love life, constantly switching jobs, this new diagnosis… these things can really push someone to the edge. perhaps she moved to an island so she could be surrounded by what she loved before she would commit. and maybe she intentionally went out in the hurricane to off herself. or maybe she went in a fugue state and went out in the hurricane and died. that would probably make more sense
@vaszgul7363 жыл бұрын
"man with amnesia found insisting his name was a swedish name and could only speak swedish despite having been american before" maybe you guys had the wrong guy ?????????
@amel43823 жыл бұрын
Maybe they DNA tested
@intothevoid473 жыл бұрын
I experienced a fugue state during a time when this stuff called "K2" was popular. It's actually a pretty scary feeling once you realize you don't know who you are, where you are, or why you're there. It's like spacing out while driving then you start to realize you don't know where you're going, how long you've been driving in that mental state, and if you've already missed your turn. You feel lost and can't understand how lost you are. It could last for minutes, or hours. But minutes can feel like hours in sometimes, right?
@kagama14083 жыл бұрын
I have experienced something like this too on at least two occassions. One happened while at work during a stressful moment with a co-worker. I remember talking to them and then going to my locker. Next thing I knew I was standing outside my workplace. Just about 20 min had passed but the experience was very scary since I didn't know how I had changed my work clotges or gotten outside.
@Ntwolf12203 жыл бұрын
Now you only smoke real weed hopefullu
@kagama14083 жыл бұрын
@@Ntwolf1220 I don't smoke anything ever
@Ntwolf12203 жыл бұрын
@@kagama1408 well thats probably good lmao
@pesamino35033 жыл бұрын
Why Do We Always Blame It On Jorge
@CrankyBoots3 жыл бұрын
There’s no one else to put the blame on.
@MissMocha3 жыл бұрын
@@CrankyBoots Dang straight
@Amethyst_Alien3 жыл бұрын
He's guilty. *GUILTY I say* Of dropping fire content.
@riverdeep3993 жыл бұрын
Shoot the messenger. He knows too much...
@jacksonstarship61793 жыл бұрын
Let’s blame it on George for once
@governorg00963 жыл бұрын
I am surprised how someone with such a horrible illness is left alone to live, atleast her mother should have told her to be with her. She should not have been without someone to watch her.
@TheWeremuscleForest3 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine that Hannah likely perished during Hurricane Irma. It was her destiny to be on that island, and unfortunately a water-based event, which seemed to be an ongoing theme in her previous encounters, led to her demise. This is almost supernatural, but very true.
@kavrick92703 жыл бұрын
How is it when you know someone has a medical issue that causes them to lose all their sense of self and get lost that you let them be alone with no company at any time? Such a shame that proper precautions could have easily prevented this.
@jules58243 жыл бұрын
Probably because a court wouldn't have been able to rule her mentally unfit enough to be supervised like that.
@mustangnawt13 жыл бұрын
It is difficult if u are an adult that has to work. With yrs between the occurrences it would be difficult to watch someone always
@iki127373 жыл бұрын
its a psychological disorder
@gelseminun3 жыл бұрын
This is scary, litterally my biggest fear. I've actually had recurrent nightamares about getting lost alone in the cold and not knowing how to get home 😢😢
@yeeeeehaaaaaw3 жыл бұрын
Could you imagine being the police who had to file her dissapearences? "How many time do i have to teach you a lesson old man"
@keiishine3 жыл бұрын
@@blackice000 shut up
@inendlesspain47243 жыл бұрын
@DeeJay1210 Report and move on, it's probably just a bot anyway.
@Game_Hero3 жыл бұрын
*young woman
@partIycIoudy3 жыл бұрын
Love the reference lol
@dont-call-me-et-al3 жыл бұрын
I have Porphyria - her stress induced fugue states sound a lot like mine. Mania accompanies them also - so it’s really difficult for outsiders to tell i’m in danger mentally. Drawn to nature and water - especially at night. As a young girl it can be hella dangerous, not to mention debilitating mind body and soul - Porphyria i mean. I hope to God that she is found soon no matter what - and that her family and friends someday know peace again. God bless them all
@lindsayburns13773 жыл бұрын
I have never heard of this in my entire life. It's fascinating, bizarre, and terrifying all at the same time.
@deathbackwards78503 жыл бұрын
Just a heads up, “awry” is pronounced “a-rye” like a rye bread. Great video though
@blameitonjorge3 жыл бұрын
*I ALWAYS MISS SOMETHING MAN*
@nostalgiamostalgia03193 жыл бұрын
@@blameitonjorge it’s okay
@Me-wx1mt3 жыл бұрын
@@blameitonjorge 😂 same
@ToggleMatch3 жыл бұрын
I've been pronouncing it wrong my whole life
@Me-wx1mt3 жыл бұрын
@@ToggleMatch lmao
@svinjamaria3 жыл бұрын
If my mom found out I went in disassociative fugue states she would definitely put me either in a straight jacket or a hamster ball
@tabaskosweet78663 жыл бұрын
Well you’re lucky. Not all people have that privilege. You should be grateful.
@CatBitchNami2 жыл бұрын
@@tabaskosweet7866 What privilege, a loving family?
@dn7949 Жыл бұрын
@@CatBitchNami The privilege of everyone believing you when you go out to find a new man.
@bostonb4kedbeans Жыл бұрын
@@CatBitchNamiexactly.
@Pisces-19783 жыл бұрын
I don't understand the fact that after she was diagnosed with such a scary + unpredictable disorder + disappearing TWICE she went to live on an Island without family near. People have to live on medication, with the help of a cane, with an oxygen tank etc to keep them healthy + safe every day without "liking" it. For her not to accept the ankle bracelet was irresponsible. Not to leave the Island during hurricanes was her choice. I don't mean to sound insensitive, I truly hope she is alive + well somewhere. After disappearing in NY for 3wks then again for 2 days + being found was not only a blessing but huge red flags that you should have a safety plan in action for yourself.
@helene87063 жыл бұрын
I remember reading an article about her a couple of years ago and something about how they talked about her family in that made me think she likely has/had some serious trauma with her dad, and so it's possible she moved far away from her parents on purpose.
@ArtisanAsteroid3 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but that is insensitive. People with mental disorders can’t always be clear about their choices. Some of us just can’t think in a typical way and it’s not good to act like we could be as responsible as you. I called the police on my dad once because of what started as him trying to put a shock collar on the dog. It wasn’t really my choice even though from the outside it seems like it is. I felt in complete danger and like I needed to get help urgently.
@matthewrease23763 жыл бұрын
How is it irresponsible? It's her choice...
@briantannenbaum81103 жыл бұрын
@@matthewrease2376 uh what? It was irresponsible for her own health they meant
@CatBitchNami2 жыл бұрын
@@ArtisanAsteroid Crazy people often don't admit to being crazy.
@anolexolliver3 жыл бұрын
As someone who suffers from dissociation this case is very real for me. It makes me feel good to see so many people praying for Hannah and her family(me included), and educating themselves about dissociation. As we can assume, Hannah is a very ambitious and driven person. I pray that she shows up, alive and hopefully healthy, and agrees to take precautions that will keep her safe and from disappearing again.❤️✨
@TheDaveKrueger3 жыл бұрын
I remember old school Unsolved Mysteries had a few episodes on this topic and it wasn't yet called what it is now called. The general consensus was that majority of the people who appeared on the show were actually making it up and a few were even eventually arrested because they were actually on the run after committing a serious crime.
@duellinks35923 жыл бұрын
Welp, the simplest explanation although sad is that she was swept by the hurricane. I pray that it is not the case.
@ArtisanAsteroid3 жыл бұрын
While that could be it the simplest answer to me is that she got in the water and died there.
@SomeOfTheJuice3 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly all in on Agatha Christie having gone into a Dissociative Fugue state. It explains so many questions about it, both from when it happened and all the way up to her death and what she thought of it.
@Hal-p5y3 жыл бұрын
Dissociative disorders w/ amnesia are so much more common that what people realize. You don’t know what you don’t know.
@ShendonV2 жыл бұрын
That has to be so scary not only forgetting who you are out of nowhere but wandering around in the middle of nowhere confused with no one to stop you.
@jenniferocious4803 жыл бұрын
I’m sure this isn’t a common medical condition, but I wonder how many missing persons cases are the result of this happening
@jenniferocious4803 жыл бұрын
Also weird that she gravitated towards water the 2 previous times
@qxtjzz3 жыл бұрын
she should have never been left alone
@qxtjzz3 жыл бұрын
@@blackice000 UM HELLO??
@okay-zc3px3 жыл бұрын
@@qxtjzz its on every comment I dont get it
@thereveriecomplex3 жыл бұрын
@@blackice000 Brain damage is a serious issue, i like how i see bright examples in every comment section
@fallingforever3 жыл бұрын
thanks for using my music again Jorge :)
@DreadedEspresso3 жыл бұрын
I have a theory that she may have had some sort of water-related trauma in her past that neither she or her family recall. Both times she went missing, she woke up in bodies of water and the third time she went missing on an island. I tend to take it that if she left her belongings on the beach that she most likely disappeared into the ocean, though that would be a horrible thing. I think it's something in her subconscious causing her to do this.
@Tinyflower1 Жыл бұрын
As someone with a dissociative disorder (a different one) this ever happening to me is my greatest nightmare
@Igorcastrochucre3 жыл бұрын
For a minute there I was relieved she was in an island meaning there was a limit to where she could go, then I remembered she was found near water the first time...
@Air_Serpent3 жыл бұрын
And a hurricane hit soon after. An awful one.
@omg-kb8oc3 жыл бұрын
Tbh at this point she is most likely dead. I noticed she was always found near water, so it’s possible she could’ve wandered off into the ocean since St Thomas is surrounded by water.
@kendrasinterlude Жыл бұрын
And it’s been since 2017. It’s 2023, she would’ve been located by now if she’s truly alive.
@JimTheCurator3 жыл бұрын
I love the way this channel has evolved.
@hroberson33973 жыл бұрын
I get these! I'm diagnosed with a dissociative disorder. Thankfully mine only last an hour or so, and I can usually tell when I'm building up to one because I'll feel restless and "itchy" in the days leading up to it. What I find most surprising is that there's a link with water. During one scary experience, I "woke up" soaking wet and muddy. During another, I managed to buy alcohol-- not exactly water, but close enough! This also tracks with her being able to log into her Gmail account. Maybe some tasks slip through, the same way you're able to do things in your dreams that you'd normally do in real life.
@squashedshibber26843 жыл бұрын
this is just depressing because dissociative states are caused by extreme abuse and she never fully gotten the help she needed if simply a new job was so triggering she had to cope by destroying her memories.
@thatoneguy92983 жыл бұрын
It’s kinda crazy that she could be watching this video right now and not even know that the women in the video is her
@inendlesspain47243 жыл бұрын
I mean, she could still recognize herself in a photo, and this video shows many of them.
@thatoneguy92983 жыл бұрын
@@inendlesspain4724 true
@lutherhrgrvsbf3 жыл бұрын
@@inendlesspain4724 Agatha Christie didn’t recognise herself in the newspaper when she went missing, she did recognise someone who looked very similar but it didn’t occur to her that person actually was her..
@ewetn13 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD I REMEMBER THIS WOMAN!!! this is the case I always point to when talking about dissociative fugue a. Or even muscle memory (re: typing in her apple password, to access an email she didn't consciously recognize). I can't believe this has happened AGAIN with her and she's been missing for so long. Ugh. How horribly sad and tragic.
@mollystringer6273 Жыл бұрын
this is the case my professor had taught dissociative amnesia with. when she taught us about this, hannah hadn't gone missing the third time, it's such a sad and scary situation for everyone involved.
@TotallyMysterious3 жыл бұрын
Another banger of a video as always. Gotta get some popcorn
@SnapshotOfASoul2 жыл бұрын
It's hard to word this at three in the morning but basically put, it's likely she had trauma involving water. Thematically, water is used in a lot of preaching - I mean, the flood story, baptisms, Revelation heavily features water, and many preaching styles involve things like water featured as a renewal or vitality symbol - and it's not a stretch to assume that her trauma around events she likely didn't talk about, compounded with big life changes and pressure to perform a certain role, caused her brain to go into survival mode. Fugue is a part of CPTSD and was poorly understood in 2008. A natural disaster such as that hurricane would have caused apocalyptic levels of destruction - she was likely feeling stressed! When I have traumatic episodes - I have ones where I'd literally forget I was who I was now, and think I was still in the situation - I will remember things that are automatic like logins or to feed my cats. But I would more heavily be involved in the trauma and reality would seem like a lucid dream, flowing in and out. I'd automatically know to turn the news on at 5 for my dad to watch, but I wouldn't remember what year it was and I'd be constantly swamped in the event that happened to me. I would forget to shower, to change clothing, to take care of myself and my surroundings beyond the "automatic" - it's likely her Gmail was a daily routine and her mind went "where can I find a computer..." and saw an Apple store as she was walking along. I have no hope in her survival this long, but stranger things have happened.
@cruzader36302 жыл бұрын
It seems like something similar is happening to me sometimes. There's a day where I thought I'm just watching TV but in reality, I cleaned the house and ate my lunch. It seems like a 5 second event for me but when I asked my mother, she said I cleaned the house for like 3 hours. I didn't even know anything about it. I'm thankful that these are not happening to me in the present cuz it literally scares me so much.