Bland or Tudor's Best MilSub? The "US Navy" Pelagos FXD

[@ID-Guy]

Sometimes our expectations are greater than the final product and it seems like reactions around the Black FXD are quite mixed. What are your thoughts on it? Underwhelming or Spot-on? 🥃 - Edit: Batches of these watches have been commissioned for Navy SEALs with a couple of tweaks added in the mix. I'm sure in the coming months we'll see some of these models surface (similar to the early 2-liners given to the MN)

[@robbielockstock]

I own the bb pro which I'm really enjoying I work both outside and in , it's the perfect daily for me but now I'm going to have to visit the AD it looks great 😂

[@BastienChanot]

SPOT ON: There is a MASSIVE difference between the initial FXD MN built for the french Marine Nationale, bespoke with a very purpose driven bezel to help actual commandos underwater navigation in active service and a color variation using US Marines history as a marketing justification. One makes sense from a collector and historical standpoint, one is a money grab move aimed at the US market.

[@ID-Guy]

@@BastienChanot Summed up this video (and my thoughts) perfectly brother. I should've hammered home these points more 🥃

[@pedromanuellopez142]

I find the status of this watch confusing. Some articles say this actually is a real Navy Seal watch. The difference is that the US Navy version has a two-liner (just like the MN) and they did not want any type of markings on the non-military version.

[@EQ9962]

According to watches of espionage blog this watch was created as a unit watch for development group. The text color and strap is to represent their squadron emblem. In use with the teams for quite some time Tudor has now made a version available. The military has a significant watch culture and unit watches among sof units is popular and profitable for watch companies as civilians many times want the watches sof guys wear. Other than the unit emblem engraved on the back and the four line vs two line dial script this is the watch worn by some of the most elite troops in the world. So not inspired by but built for…. I think this is a beautiful watch with an amazing story and will become a classic. Tudor is stepping up their game.

[@BLR653]

The truth is this new version was designed and has been in use by the operators in Seal Team 6 for over a year. Tudor gives them a special dial and the squadron color on the dial in the word Pelagos. The US Navy would not give Tudor permission to say designed for us navy seals but watches of espionage on Instagram has covered this in depth. This watch was specifically built for the end user. The fact is Tudor decided to offer it for commercial sale. I tried on one and I absolutely love it. It felt more authentic to the mil sub heritage to me.

[@mmacoupon]

This. That post has been deleted from Instagram and removed from the WOE website but I also believe they had the squadron insignias engraved on the caseback.

[@BLR653]

@@mmacouponthat is correct. Similar to have USSS CAT had their symbol engraved on the back of the Pelagos LHD they ordered.

[@BastienChanot]

It may be the case, but I find it much cooler to be able to simply buy the real operative watch of the MN instead of hiding specific emgraved models existence and offering something different to the public.

[@BLR653]

@@BastienChanot you are not buying the MN watch unless you are part of the MN. The MN version has 2 lines of text and was offered in LHD as well. Even the MN model is a commercial offering. There have been numerous posts on social media showing them.

[@BastienChanot]

@@BLR653 yes I just learned that

[@dannyg6592]

This is my favorite Pelagos. The red Pelagos text on the dial is the chef's kiss!

[@z06cowboy72]

This FXD is the best tool watch of any brand. Tough. large enough to read without being huge, legible hands and indexes, actual timing bezel rather than navigation.. Perfect tool watch.

[@jeffmagic32]

Except for the price. A real tool watch designed to be used and paid for by people who need it should be affordable. Otherwise its just a status symbol playing the part.

[@z06cowboy72]

@jeffmagic32 Disagred. Great tools cost fair money, and the Tudor is fair. Good tools can be had for less, often much less, but cost really is no measure of quality.

[@PS987654321PS]

Its a shame they couldnt put a date window in it for $5,000

[@z06cowboy72]

​. A blessing they didn't ruin the dial with a date.

[@PS987654321PS]

​@@z06cowboy72Do you say that because you'll look better at gay pride?

[@colinmartin7994]

Im a massive FXD fan and I'm lucky enough to own both. I collected the Black on Tuesday evening and I love it. The strap colour is class and offers a great contrast against the matt black. The red for me is key as it just makes the colours pop which finishes the watch just right for me. I love them both and would recommend them to everyone. Well played Tudor

[@ID-Guy]

Must say, I’m buzzing to try and find one of those Olive straps for my FXD 😉 Chuffed you managed to get both brother and thanks for sharing! 🥃

[@richardwarren2024]

Congratulations on the new FXD. It would be great if you could update us in a month or two and let us know which gets more wrist time - the MN or the USN.😊

[@colinmartin7994]

You can order the straps separately from Tudor. I have already picked up a spare for my Blue FXD and will be doing the same for my green strap. The watch will long outlast the strap so I plan on picking up a few for each to help span the watches lifetime. @@ID-Guy

[@colinmartin7994]

I sure will :) I think the black one will get more winter wrist time for sure. Ill keep you posted @@richardwarren2024

[@2K9s]

@@ID-Guy You can have mine, it’s too short for my ogre wrists. Cheers

[@WornDownCrown]

According to Watches of Espionage, the version of this watch that was commissioned for US Navy SEALs came with the option to customize the color of the Pelagos Text according to the SEAL’s respective squadron colors. Additionally, left-handed variants were also available for purchase. These features will likely never be available to the civilian.

[@ID-Guy]

Thank you for sharing all of this with me brother! I'd be very keen to know more about this and will do more digging🥃

[@WornDownCrown]

@@360peakperformance well that sucks. I wonder why. Hopefully it had nothing to do with an OPSEC issue.

[@Johnny641]

@@WornDownCrown I think a more realistic scenario is that the info was inaccurate.

[@mmacoupon]

The black version is being used by the Navy Seals right now. There was a post by Watches of Espionage, that has been taken down, about how this version is being used by a team numbered between 5 and 7. You can see a screenshot of that post in Adrian Barker's video.

[@UFCPR]

Love this black one! I was planning to buy the blue FXD for next year, but this one is a better option for me, it will be easier to combine with my dressing style, I would love to have both but the economy is not helping, so the black one is the ONE!

[@ID-Guy]

The black model will be far more versatile day to day as well. Can't really make a bad choice either way 😉🥃

[@chrisstevenson2622]

I wasn’t too keen on the blue dial/bezel of the FXD but the black fits the bill perfectly as the time is easily read with just the flick of the wrist. The only thing I wished they would’ve done is have the same bezel as the blue version. That right there adds more utility to the watch.

[@WestCoastAce27]

Glad you had a great dive trip and thanks for the pictures. Yes, after Tudor’s two 2022 after Watches and Wonders releases, this yr was disappointing. But I give them credit for having watches ready for sale - local Tudor AD had an event and watched them sell 6 or 7 in about a hr.

[@anthonystevens8683]

I love the tool watch aesthetic of the Pelagos. I have the LHD and the 39 models with a preference to my LHD, possibly due to the amazing bracelet making it arguably the most comfortable bracelet watch that I have, my 39 comes a very close second. I love the great balance between form and function of the FXD line and hope that they do well. An LHD FXD would be an interesting release if Tudor do it. I'm not sure that the red dial text is a big issue for me anyway but I do appreciate different design preferences. Many thanks for sharing.

[@Pentonavalsolutions]

Al fin volviste! I was waiting your oppinion about the new us navy FXD and the scuba FF

[@ID-Guy]

Appreciate it brother! I'll be making one of the Swatch FF very shortly (might be my next video) 😉

[@Pentonavalsolutions]

@@ID-Guy already waiting for it. IT must be Really nice to dive into de the Egean wildlife.

[@marcgirard7551]

Wonderful video! Sounds like you had an amazing trip! It could be great to get you to film and do a video on one of these journeys in the future!

[@domgledhill4165]

I can't believe how much better your render looks with the removal of that red line! I understand the underwhelming response to this new Tudor issue (especially in light of the slightly sketchy US Navy link). From a design perspective (taking out the heritage ties) if it had been released as the first FXD, then the blue one the follow-up I think it would have been met with more enthusiasm.

[@Perriermaster9]

Your LHD version without the red "Pelagos" is a masterstroke. I'd buy that. I agree 100% with everything you've said.

[@watchdogpodcast239]

My favorite version of the Pelagos so far!

[@alvinmick218]

I really appreciate your take on this release. I favor the black dial FXD over the blue probably more than anything due to my background. I’d have to see the watch in person to make the call on whether I’d like the red text or not but this without a doubt would be my choice. 🥃

[@DeeEx27]

I get that people are disappointed by the way the watch was released. It's completely legitimate to have expected something different, something.....more. But it's hard to fault the watch itself. They are playing it safe, no question, but a black FXD is in my opinion just a more wearable watch. I speak for myself. I never took the MN FXD into consideration, because I'm not big on blue dial/bezel watches. But the new black one is definitely intriguing. I will just have to try it on and see how it feels on my 16cm wrist. I usually only wear watches in the 37-40mm range. I'm definitely more puzzled by their Alinghi/Red Bull collaboration since it completely misses the connection to the military.

[@TylerKTanaka]

Great video. Awesome to see your FXD getting water time.

[@ID-Guy]

Man, wish the trip was longer and I managed to do more island hopping. The lil FXD did its job so well! Hope you're great Tyler 🥃

[@josephchamberlin9534]

Thankyou for the video, thoroughly enjoyed it. This iteration of the FXD is my personal favourite, I love the red pelagos text and the normal dive bezel. My preference would be to have a day date at the 3 o’clock position and to downsize to a 40mm case. I know the day/date isn’t needed on a diver, but, it would work perfectly as an everyday tool watch function imho. One can hope…

[@bradmason7204]

Another great video! I have to say I was slightly relieved when Tudor released the black FXD because I’m not sure I could’ve taken the inevitable obsession that would’ve followed at Tudor Sub release… I’ve been obsessing over the MN FXD since it released (watching your videos multiple times 😂) hoping to add it to the collection soon!

[@Jtjustintimberlake]

I happen to like the black version of the FXD more so than the blue. Do you think Tudor will update the original Pelagos next year? I think that model with the date could use a punch of color

[@Valera_Scotland]

Looking forward to this man.. update Selling my 2541.80 and getting my actual IWC Mark 16 back, off the guy who I sold it to Ha ha Hope you had a great holiday

[@dopagony9946]

I think this model was spot on. The change in color and bezel markings and direction is exactly what I would've asked for. I'm more interested in a model used by devgru than something to the spec of the MN, a unit that doesn't do any work besides training exercises. The new FXD is exactly where this model was headed, a modern day mil-sub.

[@vaughanatkinson8421]

Always enjoy your take on nuances of pieces....my twopenneth is that all verbiage should be removed from the dial in its entirety (put the depth rating on the reverse), and on a plain black NATO strap!

[@kostaspetropoulos5213]

Hey Id guy, hope you enjoyed your time in the Aegean Sea. Also, thank you for pronouncing the word "Pelagos" ( original Greek word being "Πέλαγος " with emphasis on the letter e) ,unlike so many other watch youtubers. Best Regards. P.S. if you ever revisit the Swatch x Blancpain watch, I will be glad to share my experience, as I went to check it in person.

[@watchnut]

I pick mine up tomorrow from my AD! Now, if Tudor releases at matte version of the Pelagos 39, that will be a hit!

[@ID-Guy]

I was just thinking, imagine they gave us a "grey" model? Similar to the 925 BB, but with a Ti case... we might have a winner on our hands 😉🥃

[@watchnut]

@@ID-Guy My ideal watch would be a matte dial P39 with steel case and bracelet, a boy can dream!

[@nicholaschavez6245]

Another banger of a video. A destro black dial would’ve been fantastic. The only thing holding me back on the FXD is the size, but an LHD version would’ve put me over the edge. Regarding the release, I think what rubbed some the wrong way was the method rather than the actual watch. It was a little bit overkill for “just” a color/bezel change. Reminded me of the Omega releases earlier this year. Great video 🥃!

[@ID-Guy]

Great seeing you Nic, and agreed, the release was a bit too much for too little. They could've quietly dropped it without any buildup and maybe folks would've enjoyed it more? Have a great end to your week brother 🥃

[@Pete22222]

What are you using for that keeper on the Velcro strap? I never wear that strap because I don’t trust the Velcro. Great review!

[@ID-Guy]

Thank you for this Pete and I sacrificed a 22mm nato (with brushed keepers) highly, highly recommend it 😉

[@sackman1886]

No doubt this is my favorite pelagos to date. I know people are disappointed as some continue to expect a Tudor Submariner (which will never ever happen for a number of reasons), I think this is a perfect execution for this watch.

[@heinbester100]

Totaly agree that the blue is and will be the “special “ one. And a LHD black dial would have been great. But all being said the black still is a great watch! Why. It still is that great FXD design. A difficult one to beat. I recently bought my first Tudor. A FXD. ( greatly influenced by your videos). I had a choice between the blue and black. I chose the black although a difficult choice. Why the black. Simple out of a functionality perspective. I use the bezel for counting (like a clicker, mostly counting head of cattle) and a 60 click bezel is just more practical. Might sound stupid, but I do use it. Thanks for the great videos. Keep them coming. Now I have to decide I I must get that blue one also 😊. Cheers.

[@Biggun-ft7bj]

Well said.👏🏼Not for me either mainly due to all you’ve pointed out. I, like you, am enjoying my 2022 MN FXD and will save my money.

[@sinjinadams2862]

I think it looks great! Much better than the blue which I own.

[@mosquitojoyride]

Did you use the bezel at all on your trip? Asking because I’m thinking of ditching divers all together

[@ID-Guy]

I'm actually a nutter with bezels... always using them for the most bizarre things (probably the worst person to ask) For the trip, used it timing when the plane was boarding, and then mainly in the water, usually 40 - 50 minutes at a time before getting out and going back in. It does come in handy when you least expect it 😉

[@palmeadia]

Excellent video as always. I thought they would've gone with the black carbon composite case too, maybe later..

[@ID-Guy]

No idea why I didn't mention this in the clip. An all black (blackout) model would've been FANTASTIC. That'll be next years rendition 😉

[@palmeadia]

@@ID-Guy Because you still a little in holiday mode 😉 Greek islands?

[@CaptCanuck4444]

One important detail that you neglected to mention is that it's a "count up" timing bezel on the black version, vs a "coundown" timing bezel on the blue version. I much prefer the count up bezel.

[@mikescott4008]

Great video and jealous of the holiday. I took my BB to Cape Verde earlier in the year, but should have taken my OG black Pelagos. I prefer the black as thought the blue too washed out. Would be interested in a Pelagos comparison video. I have small wrists and often think it’s too big

[@c.w.9615]

I always enjoy the last line to your videos. "Black or Blue, it's up to you". I would love a black dial 58. Too close to the Sub be damned!

[@rodsalvador3608]

The PO1. "Inspired by a watch rejected by the US Navy." lol, and yes, I do own, and love the P01

[@ID-Guy]

Love this 😆 I wanted to add that into the conversation, no kidding... but it is stellar. There's nothing quite like an outlier 🥃

[@vmarsch]

The MN FXD is Tudor's second coolest watch, next to the P01.

[@omegafanboyian]

I just don't understand why they didn't include the countdown bezel as per blue M.N version 🤔

[@ID-Guy]

You and me both Ian... think it's mainly to do with ISO certification and all that, but man... being able to rotate the bezel both ways is so much more practical for quick adjustments. Maybe not the "safest" if you're actually using it to time a dive (highly unlikely) but for navigation, quick 10-15 minutes, timing stops etc. so good 🥃

[@gavinfisch2868]

Excellent vid. I like your left hand no red idea. I'm an ultra distance open water solo swimmer......and know that barracuda shiny story 😅. The non shiny watch with fixed, for security, bars are the ticket here. Absolutely the ticket. Thanks

[@leeevans369]

I would love a left hand drive version with off white indices 🙏🙏🙏

[@r.l.marcelle8665]

This release makes perfect sense IMHO. They usually bring out a black variant in their model lineups, don’t they? Perhaps the hype prior to release subverted expectations. I love this piece- screams Military Diver to me. Great analysis all the same. Cheers!

[@HRM.H]

Kinda wished they introduced some nifty bracelet adapter with the new FXD.

[@ID-Guy]

Some kind of cool clip-on system? Like IWC and other brands with their bracelets? Totally with you here brother! 🥃

[@jgo8305]

You swam down 10 meters snorkeling? Impressive!

[@ID-Guy]

Wasn't easy... there were moray eels and all sorts under boulders and I'd have to hold on for dear life to the rocks to stay that deep... never swam in such a salty sea before, buoyancy was ridiculous 😆

[@adamwest5625]

An LHD 39mm FXD with a matte dial would be sweet. A reason why I loved my old Pelagos LHD was the left hand drive configuration (I sold to fund my Submariner 124060 after getting the call from my AD). I also bought a P39 - loved the dimensions and wearability however I couldn’t get used to the sunray dial and uneven lume so I moved it on. The USN FXD piqued my interest however, as l already have the OG FXD MN21, Submariner, SKX, Sinn 856 S UTC and Sinn 103 sa BE and Seiko Speedtimer Panda 🐼 there’s already plenty of tool watches to meet my needs.

[@smilestreetart]

I do love a bit of red , but I must say I preffered your version without the red, the red always reminds me of Rolex and those rare mil subs. Black and white, yep I'd have like that, flipping the crown, no, not for me, but you certainly could have both. Thanks.

[@jimhim585]

The black Pelagos without red will be reserved for the next iteration of the original Pelagos - a watch that will hopefully be a good bit thinner (while still having 500m WR) and have a METAS movement. Bonus points for having hardened grade 2 Titanium (grade 5 for Rolex only) and an updated spring-loaded clasp. One additional feature that would make it extra hardcore - a grit/salt-clearing mechanism for the bezel. There are many people that miss the rehaut and date from the original. One thing I do like about the Pelagos is how it is a thoroughly modern watch, so I want fauxtina tan lume to stay far away from any Pelagos. I think we could get an updated standard Pelagos next year. I do like your LHD FXD version. It apparently exists along with a few other variations of the FXD. I wouldn't mind seeing an all-matte grey LHD FXD (my choice of FXD). I am surprised a crazy SOB somewhere in the world hasn't cut away the fixed lugs and added drilled lug holes to their FXD.

[@johnnyguitar6697]

Love my FXD, but for sports activities, I prefer my U50. I think you nailed it with the redesign of the black FXD: a left handed version without red accents would have been brilliant. Incidentally, I am thinking a lot about getting a Sinn EZM 3F these days, which is very close specs wise to what a left hand FXD would be.

[@Thomas-vq5pb]

Thanks for the video! Yes brilliant rendering with the crown on the left. Would have been a lot more interesting indeed! 👍👏👏👏

[@j.burgess4459]

I'm not sure whether it's true to say that the Pelagos FXD hasn't caught on yet? I was talking to a Tudor boutique yesterday (the fabric strap on my MN Pelagos from Watchfinder isn't quite big enough for my wrists, but fortunately one can order a longer size.) Anyway, if you can believe them, they have a very big waiting list for the MN Pelagos, but are only getting delivered FOUR PER YEAR from Tudor! And this is a Tudor boutique in a massive shopping mall near a major city. Another regular AD had previously claimed that they were getting two per year when I enquired about going on the list before going the Watchfinder route. So I don't think there is a lack of demand. I reckon there is a deliberate under-supply!

[@clarencebenjaminlim]

Checked out the blue and black at the AD. Not because its the newer one, but i prefer the black one. I've got a blue wilard already.

[@ID-Guy]

Thanks for sharing Clarence! Totally understand how the black model would be far more versatile too. Great one-two punch with the Willard 😉🥃

[@John_watches-cars]

Black one for me. So nice !

[@panichdi]

Great video, I am on Team Blue! What’s that strap you show in the video?

[@solidstream13]

I have this watch. Love it. However my eyes cannot read the Pelegos (small font and in red it’s just tough). I would have preferred to not have a fully graduated bezel

[@sackman1886]

Your green/grey strap looks great.

[@undy]

Nice video as always. 👍🏻 personally I think it’s a fine watch but this and the Red Bull edition confirm it’s a product line now and no longer a weird quirky watch. That’s made it lose its desirability for me.

[@watchmewatch9]

I purchased this piece almost one week ago, in a boutique in the Montego Bay Jamaica Airport in celebration of my engagement to my beautiful girlfriend...er I mean fiancé. I own over 40 watches and so far, I cannot take this one off. It may very well become my daily, and I don't wear "daily's." I actually adore the red "Pelagos" and felt like that was just the right difference from the blue MN. I mean, you claim your piece is almost perfect. Why mess with that? Love your videos my friend.

[@shiraz1736]

Hmm I wouldn’t mind if they went red, blue and orange options tbh. That seconds hand tip could have those matching colors.

Smooth ending, balck or blue... 😆

[@ID-Guy]

Ah, the question we'd ask each other in boarding school every day ;)

Hehe 😅

[@sackman1886]

I'm rewatching your video on this as I have been obsessing over the FXD lineup for several months, I'm struck by something you said comparing this release to a "beefed up P39"... I think the P39 is SO CLOSE to being perfect, and this watch fixes that. The 39 has the sunburst dial, which is an absolute travesty for my taste (nothing wrong with it, and I know some people will love it or simply tolerate it, but it's not what the pelagos is about).

[@scollyutube]

Still dont know why they haven't done a straight black and white BB58? A Pelagos 39 with the BB Pro GMT internals, if they could make them fit, would be a great holiday watch. San Martin has one out already......

[@LegalEagle0007]

I prefer the vintage looking Black Bay 58 with the black dial and the red triangle on the bezel than the Pelagos. Although for the Pelagos, I prefer the blue dial than the black dial.

[@ID-Guy]

Nicely said brother, must say, I'm also a fan of Tudor's "Blue Snowflake" pieces - they feel like the icons of that style in the 70's. But the BB's are more timeless all together 😉🥃

[@LegalEagle0007]

@@ID-Guy Yes! Agreed. Love the Black Bay line. Iconic pieces.

[@mimikatz]

It needs to be on a bracelet for me. I prefer this bezel than the P39 which looks a bit sparse after looking at this one on the Pelegos. I do have a modern Sub though, so it’s still a bit redundant.

[@AbdulRWatches]

Great video brother, I am also a fan of Tudor, but I have to say that I feel that theu are getting more Conservative. Also they started using the best tool of the Swiss watch industry, copy and paste 😂

[@ID-Guy]

Absolutely man, it's as if they're toning down to just a handful of colours at this stage. Feels odd to be tired of Red as an accent colour 😆 Hope you're excellent m'boy and had a stellar week! 🥃

[@maverick4177]

I think it’s nice, it’s all down to preference really, i don’t like most titanium watches to be fair

[@ID-Guy]

Always down to preference, absolutely 🥃

[@tuberaider]

Barracuda was probably very impressed by your choice of watch.

[@jaysp1910]

Like you have the blue fxd and it is a great flexible daily wear. Don't think we needed the black and the divers story feels a bit of a stretch. Only downside with the blue is i can't find any decent aftermarket single pass rubber straps to change it up a bit.

[@samjep2]

I can't wait for the Tudor Sub.. it will come out eventually 😂

[@palemale2501]

Be nice if one day someone supplied a quality titanium bracelet to suit the FXD's fixed lug bars.

[@ericb8888]

Love me an Olongapo;)

[@thegoldenpleb9885]

i do prefer the back dial to the blue. I have wanted to get one now with the black i think thats the one

[@RJ-cq8dd]

Tactical frog beat them to it with a black dial. And it kept the countdown bezel which i prefer. It's the perfect watch for in a spa. Time your sauna visits, swim with it and if it ever gets water inside, then a new nh35 is $50 away.

[@watchwanted6580]

Like a Tudor fanboy I liked a lot black one too, but you absolutely right they didn’t had historical base behind like MN. When I heard USNavy I was confused, because is not about fxd and even snowflake hands 😅 US navy is a mercedes hands and smile 🤔 it’s much more close to bb41 than pelly 😅 but like a fxd fan I love all versions and like more and more people can appreciate this wonderful watch for himself, LHD fxd - great idea 👍😎

[@jeanlefranc3817]

Not bad, but even after seeing these multiple versions of the Pelagos, I still prefer my Gilt dial BlackBay 58.

[@palemale2501]

The biggest mistake they made with the black FXD is they changed back from the retrograde calibrations shown on the blue version bezel - it now looks like all other dive watches. You did not have to remember your allowed dive time towards the end of your dive - you set the duration against the minute hand at start, then when the minute hand hit the triangle you were done.

[@K.J.H_]

I just want a mid sized titanium diver with a date. Pelagos 39 date please Tudor!

[@Johnny641]

Kinda strange , I was on the fence with the MN FXD because of the blue and countdown bezel but now Tudor gave me what I want I think I prefer the MN , go fiqure. I guess it may be because I did have a 39 so with the black dial and red text it looks perhaps to similar at a casual glance where as the MN has it's own identity. The marketing of the new FXD seems a little contrived for me though, it's the modern Milsub that isn't called a Submariner which is based on a unique watch designed for the MN but is also a tribute to the US Navy ?? Ummmm.

[@Conversus]

If the bezel would have been the same, people would swap them and put the blue bezel on the black FXD. I think Tudor wants to keep the opportunity to come up with that (heritage homage) for themselves.

[@martinharrison4245]

When JC first pioneered the aqua lung for scuba diving , he was using high end watches like the submariner, blancpain, and the doxa as tools. As the hobby grew and became more affordable for the everyday man, then seiko entered the game with the skx models. They were the true affordable tool watches, for the masses. Even today the submariners and tudor pelagos models are basically fashion accessories. You might get the odd people snorkeling in them, but thats about it. The tudor model were used for military purposes, but the seikos, being cheaper and just as reliable became the the real tool watches of their time. By the 70s seiko had virtually cornered the market on dive watches and nearly killed off their swiss counterparts entirely with the invention of quartz . To call a 4k tudor pelagos now a tool watch , is almost laughable, they are a luxury vintage style watch , from the rolex family . The brand nearly died untill the black bay came along , but because of the rolex connection, they have gone from strength to strength. Dont get me wrong , i like the direction tudor have gone, but i feel they could muck it up by getting too expensive for most people too. Rolex are OTT and omega are getting similar in their prices , and it seems tudor are going after omega , with their new metas range etc....

[@wolfdna788]

I wonder if they brush it is you send it in for a full service.

[@mudgutsiv]

If it had a solar quartz heart, it would be my "One Watch."

[@stebesplace]

Why on earth is there no USN 23 engraving on the back!? The FXD seemed to be the partnership watch of the day, and maybe it's me, but this line feels diluted already, and I have an MN FXD.

[@ID-Guy]

I heard this... wait for it... the USN deliberately kept their casebacks unengraved. That's one way to cut costs 😉

[@slowbluesmaster]

It's fun to read the comments with the Hodinkee article (just browse the comments, don't bother with the article) about this watch. Special forces operators wearing a 4-figure luxury watch in combat? Really?

[@PabloTBrave]

After trying on the 39 I can safely say it's not for me , bought the LHD instead .do like the black FXD probably should be metas certified though now we know they can do that .

[@EconMcCausland]

You know one of these day's Tudor will release "EZ change" bracelets on the Tudor FXD and the Watch social media space will go nuts. 🤣

[@dj88g]

This is a good reason why not to take these you tube reviews seriously. Everyone has an opinion and that's fine, but to go on and criticize a red line of text on the new FXD...well, I guess that says something. This watch is fricking awesome. Red line of text or not, who gives a rat's ass. It's an incredible watch that melts on your wrist and feels like it's part of your arm. I love the black dial and the fully gradation bezel that harkens to the Mil Sub. I own one and it's one of my favorite watches ever. Forget what people say and put one on your wrist and then tell me if that red line of text enters in the equation.

[@marcuslieberman3577]

Faux Patina would make it look great(?)

[@ID-Guy]

Maybe 🤣 I genuinely don’t know what we want anymore! Hahaha! 🥃

[@marcuslieberman3577]

@ID-Guy I know, no watch is perfect, but your Seamaster '57 remake is real close! 😀

[@howardroark7726]

The blue FXD is an underwater navigation tool because frogmen can't rely on the GPS signal underwater. This version with the elapsed time bezel was made redundant by dive computers some time ago. I'd take the blue one, it will blend in better with the colour of the ocean. 😂

[@Yorkshiremadmick]

Apparently according to another KZbin channel The US navy has had this black FXD with 2 lines of text for over a year, allegedly.

[@jameshoward9700]

More an issue of product release strategy, I think... If the black had launched first, enthusiasts would have predictably lost their 5hit. The blue could have come later and they'd have lost it all over again. As it is, Tudor doubted their niche product, so decided to tie it in with the MN for more splash and shizzle. It worked for the enthusiasts, but no one else is buying (err, French Navy, lethal bezel, nato only, low sat blue - all a recipe for slow sales). So launching the black second fell flat with enthusiasts, despite it being the better watch - more versatile, a proper dive bezel and a true dive tool. Fait praise? No; pure dive tool watches are very rare (Tuna, Sinn..?) and that marks this out as a confident, interesting and capable product. An honest dive watch.

[@MS-fo8vr]

Oh yep, LHD would have been a win!

[@qchang09]

Nice piece, but I feel they hyped it up way too much for what it is. I think that's a big reason why people felt underwhelmed. If anything I want that strap to fit on my other Tudors!

[@muffemod]

US NAVY EDITION 🇺🇸

[@lucapaini9620]

Black Is Better for me Is fantastic

[@TopSecretVid]

Id be in for a green model with NO red!!

[@bendmountainbiker]

Outstanding as usual!!! Love your perspective. I own the Blue FXD & a Blue Pelagos 42mm on the bracelet. Love them both. I am big Tudor fan obviously with BB58 Blue & the BB Black Rose in addition to the Red Rose and a Bronze 43 in my collection. I especially like the idea of an LHD FXD. I would certainly add it to my collection. Keep the awesome content coming!!

[@nash9625]

I own the blue and was hesitant to get the FXD for fear of decision paralysis - think the black will solve that but how do you like owning both blues?

[@authorjohnwquinn]

As a retired Navy Senior Chief, I was disappointed in this release. Thanks for pointing out the difference between a watch "inspired by" to one that could have been made in partnership with. That's where Tudor "missed the boat" HA! I would have loved to seen a model actually made in partnership with the special warfare community. Show the process of sitting down with these warriors; getting their input and then sell these watches in military bases around the world. Have Tudor come over to Coronado, CA or Norfolk VA with pop-up shops. Would have been fantastic.

[@sinjinadams2862]

It's my understanding that Navy SEAL's are wearing this watch and have been for the past year.

[@TaffytheGreyhound]

The bezel is the biggest change to me.

[@renv9231]

Great assessment, agree with you 100% nothing new here.