I'm a big fan of Frenzy. I've always appreciated her powers, her rage, and her growth over the years. I've been following her stories since the 90's when she was an Acolyte. She's been in my top 10 X-men list for years. Even though she was more of a background henchman back in the day like many of her fellow Acolytes, Frenzy was introduced with an uncommon amount of nuance to her characterization. Frenzy was passionate, angry, and outspoken in regards to the injustices towards Mutant-kind and greatly admired her hero--Magneto. In addition to that, Frenzy expressed a very clear fascination with Scott Summers early on in her portrayal. This affinity towards Scott would eventually lead to powerful and, unfortunately for Frenzy, unrequited romantic feelings. After some years pass, we get some more context to who Frenzy is. The Age of X event saw Frenzy adopting a new look and heroic role as well as a relationship with Cyclops. Even though Legion returned everyone to factory settings, Frenzy wanted to keep her memories from that alternate reality. She greatly valued the feeling it was to be a true hero and also wanted to hold on to her memories with Scott. These experiences inspired her to become a full-fledged member of the X-men where we see her struggle admirably to adjust to Professor Xavier's values as an X-man. In Avengers vs X-men, we also get to see a single issue expound on her tragic childhood. Frenzy was a victim of domestic violence at the hands of her father. When she was pushed to the brink, her powers emerged resulting in her father's death. Given her tragic backstory, it's not hard to understand where Frenzy's immeasurable rage comes from. I've always found her to be a rather relatable character. Especially since we see her aspire to change for the better, and commit to her goals. Frenzy's characterization in SWORD has piqued my interest in that, Frenzy is historically an emotional and volatile character. She is known for her rage and lacks delicacy when it comes to discourse and discussion. Now she's a full-fledged diplomat. While it may seem inconsistent, she had, previously, established relations with Inhumans during the Terrigen Mist story arc--which can be considered a feat in diplomacy. She's also, somehow, very disappointed with Magneto. The reason why is a bit unclear, but I can speculate as to how Magneto falls short. SWORD 1 & 2, overall, have demonstrated how much Frenzy has grown. She's no longer this angry and violent superhuman bruiser. She's smarter, more experienced, and far more methodical. She doesn't force things anymore, she instead waits to see how things unfold. Having followed her story for so long, I definitely recognize her growth as a character. Though she hasn't been used to her full potential, she will always be one of my favorite X-men.
@christopherbyrdakaSuperman Жыл бұрын
Now I can see Frenzy and Gambit together. It'll be a diss to Rogue, but Rogue can go on without Gambit and move further io popularity on her own. Now frenzy can match martial arts skills with Gambit on street and omega level and I kinda like Frenzy's style in street tactics! She was a part of anoter team of mutants who fought and took the X-MEN to the limit, one of her team mates was named Tower, he was a giant that stood 30 ft. tall! Frenzy and tower almost spuashed Wolverine until he dogded their attempt!
@ussonbryant57633 жыл бұрын
Frenzy and Storm need a series together where they both let loose their power sets
@Nebo6003 жыл бұрын
I would love to see A Dark Storm Saga, where she just goes all out!!
@ronn-ammon89753 жыл бұрын
Nebo600 : Haven't we had that cliche enough already?
@carloswallace85473 жыл бұрын
@@Nebo600 right and her not being mentally unstabled but able to stay a good guy unleashing power better than the phoenix...
@larrywigginsjr.3355Ай бұрын
Storm #1! 😁😁😁⚡️🌪⚡️🌪⚡️
@eon00118 күн бұрын
@@larrywigginsjr.3355 RIGHT! 😁 The writer it in the comments section.
@blacknetoX3 жыл бұрын
That's the one thing that always stood out about Frenzy for me, she caped HARD for Magneto and mutantkind. I actually loved that about her.
@EverythingisH8speech3 ай бұрын
It's called promoting white zaddy worship
@joeblue19063 жыл бұрын
I think Frenzy is well-deserving of her own story arc. Marvel has a way of making supporting characters main characters and I hope this goes for Frenzy as well.
@gangofheroes3 жыл бұрын
I do hope she will get more shine, I always liked her character ever since I came across her.
@MYEComics3 жыл бұрын
Factz!
@eon0013 жыл бұрын
This channel is turning into a valuable resource for POC characters man. Love hearing about this hidden characters. Keep it up.
@SensoriaMaRia3 жыл бұрын
Its about time Frenzy gets some love! Fun fact: she & Cyclops were a couple in Age of X. When the Xmen were returned to their reality, Emma Frost had an issue w/ this. ; ) #BlerdFamLuv
@yedo85163 жыл бұрын
Another fun fact--Frenzy preferred to get intimate with Cyclops without his visor. Think this is a reflection of Emma's kink about being bathed in Cyclop's optic rays.
@SensoriaMaRia3 жыл бұрын
@@yedo8516 LOVE THIS! #GettingFrenzied #BlerdFamLuv
@kingjames52283 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing black characters to light bro. I can’t wait til u get milly subs
@MYEComics3 жыл бұрын
Facts! #myecomics
@Baraborn3 жыл бұрын
A lot of White writers don't really know what to do with Frenzy (stand in for an angry Black woman), don't really understand code switching, or what that means for their relationships with Black women in real life. Also I'm hoping she doesn't get real boring real fast in S.W.O.R.D. cause I don't want to read about an angry Black woman either.
@MAFIAMUSIKPRODUCTION3 жыл бұрын
Facts #myecomics
@sisis-qt4oc2 жыл бұрын
Honestly facts. It's so played out now.
@CreativeTakeover-f4i3 жыл бұрын
Frenzy is one of those characters who despite her ties to Magneto and others has always been a background character. She has potential, like most characters however since Storm has been the defacto black woman on the xmen...she's always been pushed to the sidelines. Now, that she's in the Sword title..I hope she gets some shine but the large cast of characters make that an iffy issue. I would love to see her developed but If this Sword run doesn't do something major with her...shell be back in mutant limbo
@onyx0813 жыл бұрын
She did appear in X-men The Animated Series in a two part episode called 'Sanctuary"
@kreekevol37393 жыл бұрын
0:19...good lawd, they had this girl out here with a deadlock mullet
@seeleunit20003 ай бұрын
I didn't think such a thing was possible... Why ?
@trevorghalt18813 жыл бұрын
Wow, she should have been in a movie, how dope would it been to see Magneto and her fighting together
@THEWHIPX13 жыл бұрын
The episodes of the animated show were sanctuary part 1 and 2.
@alonzopierce47183 жыл бұрын
I always wondered who would win in a fight between Her and Luke Cage.
@tyronjasonhuff3 жыл бұрын
Luke can dish it all out and outlast her. Hes showed durability feats almost on Ben Grimm's level...that's above Namor's durability cleanly.
@robertchristian70203 жыл бұрын
sweet christmas, powerman would whoop dat pretty booty.
@rell1273 жыл бұрын
Well she did hang with classic She-Hulk for a minute. Luke is nice bit in the 616 he's never beaten a Hulk.
@tonybennett33 жыл бұрын
@@tyronjasonhuff Namor is MU Top 5 Toughest. can survive Marianas Trench depths. He fights Grimm, Thor, et. al. barehanded.
@robertchristian70203 жыл бұрын
@@rell127 because he isnt crazy, he survived an age of ultron nuke though, so he would beat her through wit. like how thor be getting his wins on hulk, dont be crazy equals win.
@SecretSensei03 жыл бұрын
Memphis! 901... I went to Wooddale! lol
@smorillo85813 жыл бұрын
I remember her 1st appearance in X-Factor against Apocalypse’s Alliance of Evil. Good to see Hickman have a larger role for her.
@confidentmystic3 жыл бұрын
Frenzy, Tempo, the more black superheroes the better! #blackgirlmagic
@armoghetto3 жыл бұрын
Have seen Frenzy here and there for years, but I was not aware of the full details and layers of her history until today. She does deserve more spotlight and development! I hope to see it!
@ronn-ammon89753 жыл бұрын
I got my hands on her first appearance when she was part or Apokolypse' Alliance of Evil, and remember that she seemed to have a bit of depth that made her seem to stand out from the others. Justice, from the New Warriors > Avengers also accidentally killed his physically abusive father in self defense, with his mutant powers. Considering how differently they dealt with it, they'd probably have interestingly different perspectives, if they met and discussed it. Justice turned himself in and still caught anti-mutant fallout. I imagine Frenzy would get even more if her situation became public knowledge. PS: But is Frenzy THE toughest Black woman Marvel character? Maybe in terms of muscular physicality. But overall? Let's not discount Photon.
@ThulsaDoom3 жыл бұрын
Dope upload on my b-day. Thank you, Ernie! Frenzy's one of my top favorite mutants. About her eyes being a "Weakness", I'm not quite sure about that. I think that was more of a writer and or artist error. She's been attacked in multiple ways like Cyclop's optic beam and Jeans telekinetic beam (at the same time) to the face and Havok's plasma blast without a hitch. Not to mention, internal microwave and direct electrocution attacks to the skull, have no effect on her. This can be seen in her fight with Omega Sentinel. The end result was Omega Sentinel getting beat into scrap metal. Magneto used a surgical laser to injure her brain. It didn't blind her. From my personal experiences, surgical lasers seem non-life threatening or powerful enough to cause the damage that was done to someone like, Frenzy, who is equally as durable internally as she is externally. My ex underwent in-office surgical laser treatment on her right eye after surgery and we were in and out in minutes. She said it made her eye itch a little. Also, Northstar and Aurora failed to take down, Frenzy, inside of a S.H.I.E.L.D helicarrier after she knocked out Rogue and beat the crap out of Mystique. The twins attempted to help Mystique and used one of their iconic attacks when holding hands to produce a powerful light burst that only pushed, Frenzy, back and left her skin smoking. They were shocked by how durable she was and Mystique told them something along the lines that she was nearly indestructible. As a result, Mystique caught her off guard with a flying kick that sent, Joanna, out a shattered helicarrier window. Battlefield removal was the only way they could stop her. Note: "When Aurora and Northstar are in contact with each other, usually by holding hands, they can also vary the rate of acceleration of their molecules to release a cascade of photons creating a momentary burst of light equal to one million candela which they use to blind their opponents." I'm a fan of, Joanna Cargill. I could keep writing about her capabilities and feats, but I'll come to an end saying, she's an underdog. If you think she can't do something, she proves that she can. An editor once said they believe her "Primary power" is actually "Her will". Her will is as durable as her entire body. One last thing, a lot of people associate Frenzy's codename with rage. She doesn't use rage in combat. She's incredibly intelligent, well learned, a capable leader, mentor, and of course very diplomatic. Yes, she can be brash, but that comes from her loyalty and or beliefs in something. She goes all out for what she believes in. In combat, Frenzy uses "Red Rage"; a technique she learned to hone in the military that allows her to survive every and all missions. Rage is generated for survival in combat while simultaneously maintaining your composure. It's explained in her solo issue.
@africanablak2 ай бұрын
Blerd, have you seen the female wrestler named, "Cargill."? This is the person i am asking you to take another look who could play "frenzy" on the big screen. Cargill the wrestler is about 6'3, and sinewy. Perfect to place Frenzy.
@lexbryant45643 жыл бұрын
I hope she stays hero cause she's an interesting character And her relationship with scott is actually very interesting too would want more of them in the current era. By the way her knew design looks super good
@rell1273 жыл бұрын
Marvel should have Freenzy and Monet go at it for a minute.
@larryjr97053 жыл бұрын
I think Frenzy is stronger, but M is smarter. It really could go either way. 😁
@rell1273 жыл бұрын
@@larryjr9705 I don't know M has done better against heavier hitters than Frenzy has.
@dhorubaPRIME3 жыл бұрын
More Frenzy! And I hope they don't lighten her up!!! I been in love with her since X-Factor 4!
@karmabum213 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed that arc when Jean controlled Frenzy's mind to make her happily work with them. I think that was also the arc that really saw Northstar back in action.
@blacgranite3 жыл бұрын
Thank You this was awesome!!!
@DonMegaPLP3 жыл бұрын
Look at the episodes Sanctuary Part 1&2
@blacgranite3 жыл бұрын
Can you do one on Gentle?
@reyemilio003 жыл бұрын
I've always loved Frenzy, even when she was a villain. I was disappointed when Jean mind-controlled her to temporarily join her rag-tag band of X-Men. I felt like Frenzy finally joining the X-Men should've been a huge moment...one that should've been Frenzy's CHOICE. That being said, she is FANTASTIC during her X-Men Legacy run, and really deserves to be a main character on an X-team. I look forward to seeing her in the big leagues again in the S.W.O.R.D book.
@DuwayneMurrelldebajanclasher3 жыл бұрын
this was an excellent video. It made me revisit the Acolytes and wonder why they aren't being used. Chrome, Delgado, Neophyte they were some really interesting characters that would be great on Krakoa. Delgado would be excellent to explore
@michaeljones29253 жыл бұрын
It was in 86 where i became a fan of Frenzy!!! I hope somewhere down the road she will be in the MCU and i would like to see her go toe to toe with DC'S Thunder from Black Lighting!!!!!
@MYEComics3 жыл бұрын
Me2 #myecomics
@BigAsh753 жыл бұрын
Yo Brandy Evans is the greatest pick for Frenzy! I couldn’t agree more she would play TF out of her character.
@tommyg26609 ай бұрын
Jade Cargill = Frenzy
@rell1273 жыл бұрын
Ayo Ernie 5 mutants I think you consider doing a video. Each are black Monet st Croix(gotta love that black psychic super girl) Blink from age of Apocalypse ( she's from barbadous) Bishop ( the hardest cat with the Jeri-curl who stayed running up white people with the shooty on deck) Lastly brother can you do Bloodstorm.
@apollo138373 жыл бұрын
I so appreciate you Blerd for making these types of videos. I'm always learning new things thanks to you. Keep up the AMAZING job!!!
@brysinsworld3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for creating this video. Never knew much about Frenzy
@WesleyGuerrero3 жыл бұрын
So in the comics right now they are bringing back the X-men to Krakoa as their heroes, what if they brought back the brotherhood? We've got the Hellfire club, X-Force, X-Factor, Excalibur, New Mutants, Murauders Sword and Hellions as active teams but to my knowledge they havent done anything with the Brotherhood.
@jahlonjohnson61533 жыл бұрын
Joanna Cargill ask Frenzy ... one of my favorite X villains. Thanks for video!
@aimmingo3 жыл бұрын
Good fan casting!
@sharriffchaplin37333 жыл бұрын
Yeah I knew her from back in days I would like see more and I’m not going to lie she is type of women I’m attractive to so yeah I love my strong black women lol
@LarryDWilmore792 жыл бұрын
I believe Frenzy will gain that Rogue and Storm friendship with Storm and I believe Marvel should make that happen. Frenzy needs stability and growth and what way to get than with a permanent BFF loyal bond to Storm. Storm is the perfect embodiment of black female power on many aspects and Frenzy is needing to fill that emptiness in her life as a living being. I saw where she wanted to step in and defend Storm’s absence/tardiness when Storm was summoned to battle for the seat. They need a personal adventure and experience to build their trust, bond and sisterhood much like Callisto and Storm has now. Storm needs a healing factor and a nigh-indestructible defense and maybe she and Frenzy might have a friendly hand-to-hand battle from time-to-time like Dtorm has with Gambit. Frenzy may lose but it’s them learning each other and building that teamwork knowledge.
@mauriceharpier73753 жыл бұрын
That episode is Sanctuary 1 & 2 season 4 with frenzy my brotha, do you have any information about the "External" the one the thiefs and assassins had to bring a tithe once a year Gambits people?
@MermaidZombie3 жыл бұрын
YAAASSSS!!!!! I’m SO here for this!
@jasper25723 жыл бұрын
S.W.O.R.D is like mutant star trek and I dig it even I'm a bit confused haha. Thanks for the info blerd. Gonna fire up Marvel unlimited
@richardsmith17423 жыл бұрын
I loveee your videos and casting marvel needs to hire you.
@johnharristheblackrogue19143 жыл бұрын
Erin dig up info on Moses magnum. I would love to see that one
@MYEComics3 жыл бұрын
Me too #myecomics
@TubezThe13 жыл бұрын
Frenzy seems like an awesome character! I kind of wish she was on the ballot for the Vote of X event. She would have had my boat in a heartbeat. Plus I love my strong woman so that's a Plus! Also of course you choose someone that is a Memphian to play her, honestly everything about Frenzy screams Memphis despite wherever she grew up.
@yedo85163 жыл бұрын
She's a protagonist in SWORD. The issue with putting her on the ballot means that she'd have to leave her current team in the event that she gets the most votes. I actually want to see what Ewing can do with Frenzy as an intergalactic Krakoan diplomat. If you haven't read the series yet, I'd heavily recommend that you do. Frenzy hasn't gotten too much attention yet, but I feel that Ewing is building her up to have a conflict with Magneto and Fabian.
@TubezThe13 жыл бұрын
@@yedo8516 no I read SWORD, and love it! I just think it would've been really cool for her to be a part of the main X-Men.
@edwin-00343 жыл бұрын
Wow I guess I have seen Frenzy but really getting into her story and getting to know her is awesome and thank you so much as well brother Blerd without Fear.
@HouseOfBlerd3 жыл бұрын
I love these videos 😍keep doing it Blerd
@a.d.prewitt71383 жыл бұрын
Didn't know you were from Memphis, TN Cool. Got Family there.
@joncosmomusic3 жыл бұрын
Good casting for frenzy
@markstriker9253 жыл бұрын
So she is a much more powerful Captain America. So basically another Spiderman without the senses and webs lol.
@LandofMert763 жыл бұрын
She's had great character development for a classic throw away. Being on SWORD, really makes me think of Flint from Stormwatch
@dharris1084able3 жыл бұрын
Bianca Belair... this is the role for her to play!!
@RavenCoyote3 жыл бұрын
Frenzy has always been awesome, but she need to smack Jean upside the head a few times
@tmd-w15523 жыл бұрын
Literally
@karmabum213 жыл бұрын
that arc when Jean controlled her mind in order to work with them merits it.
@trence53 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that ish was reeeeeeeeally FOUL.
@davidmendez59333 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I love this character but didn’t know much about her history. 🙏🏽 great pick for actor too!
@dmcarden3 жыл бұрын
I remember a character named Flint from Stormwatch.. I wonder which one came first..almost exact powers and appearance.
@christopherbennett5858 Жыл бұрын
I like Frenzy. She’s always trying to find a place where she believes she can do good. Makes sense that she’d join the good side. I will say that I liked when she would go around with Nekra. I mean, both of them are super strong black women who actively (Nekra maybe not so conscious when she followed Mandrill but was at least willing to follow Grim Reaper) followed some rather awful men. Specifically, Mandril, Grim Reaper, Fabian Cortez and Exodus. I know Frenzy was a follower of Magneto but Fabian and Exodus were the ones who made her think their bad interpretations of him were correct. Plus, they’re two characters that may have started as the stereotype but eventually got fleshed out and more dimensions added.
@MAFIAMUSIKPRODUCTION3 жыл бұрын
Great video!!!!!!!!!! Frenzy the Ish!!!
@4Bashment3 жыл бұрын
Love the video, and absolutely still used speradically which is 😔. Hoping she's used way more in Sword
@BCDC1233 жыл бұрын
Her Swords Design is TOP TIER I’m getting MK11 Jacqui Briggs vibes
@garydavis35343 жыл бұрын
Love Frenzy!!!!!
@christophersherman54043 жыл бұрын
Thank you for letting us know about all of these characters I never knew existed. I love frenzy and would love to see more of her. I think she's hella stronger than a rogue or captain Marvel.
@BenOlsberg19953 жыл бұрын
Does anybody happen to know which comic the screenshot at 3:08 with Havok is from?
@alejandromilici77633 жыл бұрын
Would you do Dr.Cecilia Reyes?
@MYEComics3 жыл бұрын
😎😎😎😎#facts
@DonMegaPLP3 жыл бұрын
Your a scholar and gentleman.
@treylakingz90293 жыл бұрын
Frenzy is that chick I hope she gets some burn in the MCU. She is the female version of Like Cage. This is a good vid fam. 👍👍👍👍
@murchisonphillip50233 жыл бұрын
❤❤❤ how you keep highlighting mutants who look like us... Great job 👏 👍 👌
@christofurbup6224 Жыл бұрын
Hey, BLERD, how about Grace Jones playing Frenzy? The same Grace Jones who was in A View To A Kill and that Conan movie, (with Arnold,) among other great things!
@AceTheOutsider3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how X-Men hasn't been a long running animated series. SOOOO many mutants and stories. Is the storytelling too volatile because of other Marvel events? Also BWF, good selection on Brandee Evans to play Frenzy 🤤
@shadowsaiyan3 жыл бұрын
Ayye! Same hometown! Nice! So is Frenzy really tougher than Monet St. Croix? 🤔
@jzachery3 жыл бұрын
Frenzy is awesome! The more I can read about her the better.
@FredGoldust9 ай бұрын
While you were digging around looking for a cameo of her did you happen to see Oracle at all? She's a blue Shi'ar in a pink one piece and I swear she was in the show but can't find it anywhere.
@Brooklyn_Bleek3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind seeing frenzy & bishop being together; I think they could bond over having some background similarities.
@neapoleansmith44033 жыл бұрын
Frenzy has been dope for years and Yes she needed better work up than she has been given in Xmen comics
@jbrooks92093 жыл бұрын
I feel like you are thinking of shard when it comes to the 90s cartoon but brandy would be an awesome choice for the roll!
@BrothaJumma3 жыл бұрын
Great vid, fam! Been watching your vids for almost a year but this is my first time commenting. I've known about Frenzy for decades, literally since X Factor. I used to hate they way the drew her to look like a world class male body builder. There was nothing soft or feminine about her back then. It mad me sick!!! Agreed, its dad that they slept on her so long. Idk she was in the new SWORD run. I'm picking it up for sure. Thanks for the info. Keep Shinning and doin what you do, King!!! Peace & Power!
@bobmathis-friedman67423 жыл бұрын
I'm now liking Frenzy; she reminds me of the Distinguished Competition's Nubia!
@metatronblack3 жыл бұрын
First time hearing about her , but not the first time seeing her
@lordm913 жыл бұрын
I like her and known about her because I follow X-Men but I really didn't realize she was in so much lol
@CheKamau3 жыл бұрын
Always loved her.
@210SAi3 жыл бұрын
Who thought calling her Cargill instead of Frenzy was a good idea???
@sogrizzly93113 жыл бұрын
Brandy evans would be perfect.
@woosedragon50933 жыл бұрын
💥I like how you're highlighting the black characters-
@jasondavis29953 жыл бұрын
I've only gotten to you talking about how strong her skin is, but my thing is why does Rogue not have strong skin despite being able to do so much in the same Department..
@gozieeneh71102 жыл бұрын
When will you talk about shard bishop, Lucas Bishop sister?
@m.k.o76103 жыл бұрын
She Saitamaed her father.
@karmabum213 жыл бұрын
if you guys want to see Frenzy in real life, go to Instagram and look up @ms_cargill and I promise you will agree. Marvel needs to hire her NOW
@pharoah4873 жыл бұрын
I am today years old finding out about her. I agree that she could be a great. more regular character. She would be cool bad or good.
@dave911nyc3 жыл бұрын
My God Brandy yesssss Lort 🙌🏾
@HolyHadou3 жыл бұрын
Female Luke Cage with sympathetic backstory? How am I just hearing about her?!
@carloswallace85473 жыл бұрын
Right.Do you know about Nubia,the black original wonder woman?If no t look her up here on youtube another black powerhouse.Another one,a male black hero named blue marvel but you might know of him.
@HolyHadou3 жыл бұрын
@@carloswallace8547 Blue Marvel I know of but Nubia I only know in name. History and context behind her are a mystery but thanks for the intel.
@viniciusribeiro64518 күн бұрын
One of my favorite superstrong characters. 😊
@jasondavis29953 жыл бұрын
Les-gooooo!
@thebumbs3 жыл бұрын
I love these videos.
@WokeVideo3 жыл бұрын
Can you go in on Brother Voodoo!?!
@210SAi3 жыл бұрын
I saw a very good YT video on him last week. Forgot the account but if you do a search you’ll find it
@Dragonflyjones673 жыл бұрын
Brandy Evan's? I was thinking Grace Jones...... Brandy Evan's does have that fire too her.
@altonbeckett6294 Жыл бұрын
The actress that could play frenzy is the wrestler that's named after her. The ECW Women's Champion: Jade Cargill!
@donaldsmith86483 жыл бұрын
So who do you think is more powerful Jean Grey or Wanda?
@210SAi3 жыл бұрын
Jean Grey
@mr.e21211 ай бұрын
I've learnrd about three mee chaccters and definitely woul like to learn sbout more